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compelling arguement.
I preferred FF6's. Got to know the characters in various ways throughout the game, from meeting the first time, getting the character back, and usually an end-game closure-type thing.
Aika's the best in SoA though.
Aika's the best in SoA though.LAMBDA BURST
Aika's the best in SoA though.LAMBDA BURST
Man, I really liked that SoA, despite the slow ass airship battles. Cool world, exploration, lots of sidequests, build-a-base, no uguu that I can remember...[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCN0kxdakg[/youtube]
Aika's the best in SoA though.LAMBDA BURST
piiiirates wraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaath
Skies of Arcadia and FF6 have the best casts. I don't know where the "uguu" comments come from. Nothing is overly cute wankery. The characters have appropriately adventurous attitudes. It is a little goofy, but I'll take the humor over the shallow emo behavior thats corrupted JRPG characters. I'd rather have Whedon-like characters than 90210 characters any day.Exactly. I consider uguu to be cutesy loli shit.
FFX onwards seem to have casts bursting with annoying twats. I can't get where you guys are coming from at all.
Another Vyse mention
Shadow Hearts Covenant has the best cast ever. Fuck anyone who disagrees.
Suikoden III has a great cast, too bad the game is ruined by the awful ending.
What are you talking about? Suikoden III's ending is great because it propels the series main story forward. If you're talking about the main characters endings, I agree they suck. I'm talking about Luc's ending, aka the true ending.
That's the main appeal to you. Political and geographical changes aren't the heart of Suikoden. War is. Even without change, 3's ending is fine. I've never heard anyone complain about geographical and political changes being the appeal of Suikoden :lol
That's the main appeal to you. Political and geographical changes aren't the heart of Suikoden. War is. Even without change, 3's ending is fine. I've never heard anyone complain about geographical and political changes being the appeal of Suikoden :lol
Exactly, you doofus. War and how you conquer and unite kingdoms and shit. In Suikoden III, everything just goes back to the way it was, when throughout the whole game they were building towards the unification of the smaller regions that had been split off from each other and were at war. You can really tell the game's director (who also created the series) got fired near the end of the game.
In conclusion, you're wrong.
Himuro: Wrong on Bayonetta, wrong on Suikoden III, wrong for America.
That's the main appeal to you. Political and geographical changes aren't the heart of Suikoden. War is. Even without change, 3's ending is fine. I've never heard anyone complain about geographical and political changes being the appeal of Suikoden :lol
Exactly, you doofus. War and how you conquer and unite kingdoms and shit. In Suikoden III, everything just goes back to the way it was, when throughout the whole game they were building towards the unification of the smaller regions that had been split off from each other and were at war. You can really tell the game's director (who also created the series) got fired near the end of the game.
In conclusion, you're wrong.
Himuro: Wrong on Bayonetta, wrong on Suikoden III, wrong for America.
What are you expecting, the grasslands and Zexen to form a treaty so that they're one country? :lol They signed an alliance and war was absolved. It's basically the same result as past games. How does this make it a weak ending? Suikoden endings are always great due to the interpersonal relationships between various characters: Jowy and Riou in 2; Tir and Gremio in 1; Luc and his fate. The wars are, and always have been, pure icing. No one really remembers Suikoden 2's emotional ending because you have basically become the new ruler of a country or that City States take over Highland's land after their recently appointed king fled. People remember the ending because of Jowy vs Riou. The same is true for 3's ending.
Ichirou: wrong in general.
Don't test me on Suikoden.
I should kill myself anyways, since I will never get a true sequel to Suikoden III.
I hope it does happen, and I hope Suikoden VI gets announced.spoiler (click to show/hide)As a 360 exclusive.[close]
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Nah, Sakura Wars is better, but you refuse to play it because the idea of playing a game with girls in it makes your dick retract into your abdomen.
Can we go back to Skies. At least thats playable
Love Skies of Arcadia. I'd like a sequel but Sega would find a way to fuck it up. I'd rather just appreciate its greatness rather than play through an embarrassingly bungled sequel on the DS or Wii or some shit.
I think Sega has given up on real RPGs. I heard Virtua Quest (which was a massive, MASSIVE flop) was even outsourced to the fine folks at TOSE.
Nowadays it's just online Phantasy Star crap and those Shining games that have nothing to do with classic Shining Force stuff.
I think Sega has given up on real RPGs. I heard Virtua Quest (which was a massive, MASSIVE flop) was even outsourced to the fine folks at TOSE.
Nowadays it's just online Phantasy Star crap and those Shining games that have nothing to do with classic Shining Force stuff.
what happened to overworks who did SoA?
Seems Shadow Hearts Covenant is unavailable at Play-Asia and Amazon.com.
Shadow Hearts Covenant is great. It's a better than Suikoden III.
Covenant is one of the better Ps2 jrpg's, and that says a lot.
Shadow Hearts Covenant is great. It's a better than Suikoden III.
Covenant is one of the better Ps2 jrpg's, and that says a lot.
Europe didn't even get Suikoden III. Oh right, I forgot, you're a pirate.
In any case, Shadow Hearts Covenant is blech. Play Shadow Hearts 1.
And yeah, I pirated Suikioden III. True story: It was the first game I ever pirated because I didn't want to import it.
SIII was probably the biggest catalyst for me to become a pirate. I downloaded the whole internet since then.
sadly good jrpgs are a rare thing these days :(
I think Sega has given up on real RPGs. I heard Virtua Quest (which was a massive, MASSIVE flop) was even outsourced to the fine folks at TOSE.
Nowadays it's just online Phantasy Star crap and those Shining games that have nothing to do with classic Shining Force stuff.
what happened to overworks who did SoA?
Didn't a lot of them go to work on Valkyria Chronicles?
BTW, Ichi, go play Shadow Hearts: Covenant. One of my top 3 RPGs from last gen.
Who fucking cares? It's still barren compared to last gen.sadly good jrpgs are a rare thing these days :(
I have played Persona 4, Demon's Souls, Dragon Quest IX, Strange Journey in the past few years so I disagree.
That's more than the good wrpgs, so I wouldn't say it's rare.
Who fucking cares? It's still barren compared to last gen.sadly good jrpgs are a rare thing these days :(
I have played Persona 4, Demon's Souls, Dragon Quest IX, Strange Journey in the past few years so I disagree.
That's more than the good wrpgs, so I wouldn't say it's rare.
You never answered my question Beezy. What stands out to you that makes you so abrasive towards what's out?
Are you arguing theres no GOOD ones - and if so, what is your examples?
Are you arguing theres barely any JRPGs out compared to last round - and if so, what examples?
For the record I barely touch my DS, and don't own a PSP, DQ9 being the only exception lately.
You never answered my question Beezy. What stands out to you that makes you so abrasive towards what's out?
Are you arguing theres no GOOD ones - and if so, what is your examples?
Are you arguing theres barely any JRPGs out compared to last round - and if so, what examples?
For the record I barely touch my DS, and don't own a PSP, DQ9 being the only exception lately.
the jrpgs this gen is just a reharsh of things going on in the 90s and early 00s.
Are people really playing jrpgs before they say they're stuck in the 90's?
Are people really playing jrpgs before they say they're stuck in the 90's?
Of course not. There's plenty more you can add to that list too: The Last Remnant, Resonance of Fate, Nier, Infinite Space, Half-Minute Hero, even Folklore. JRPGs are one of the most diverse genres.
So yeah, the past few years have been good. Unless you're a big fan of traditional rpgs.I am. And there aren't many of those.
You never answered my question Beezy. What stands out to you that makes you so abrasive towards what's out?Like Himu said, there aren't many traditional rpgs. That's what I think of when I hear jrpg. All these strategy, action, and dungeon crawler rpgs are probably okay (unless they're on a handheld), but that's not what I want. Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia are still my favorites so far.
Are you arguing theres no GOOD ones - and if so, what is your examples?
Are you arguing theres barely any JRPGs out compared to last round - and if so, what examples?
For the record I barely touch my DS, and don't own a PSP, DQ9 being the only exception lately.
You never answered my question Beezy. What stands out to you that makes you so abrasive towards what's out?
Are you arguing theres no GOOD ones - and if so, what is your examples?
Are you arguing theres barely any JRPGs out compared to last round - and if so, what examples?
For the record I barely touch my DS, and don't own a PSP, DQ9 being the only exception lately.
the jrpgs this gen is just a reharsh of things going on in the 90s and early 00s.
There's so much wrong in this statement.
If anything, this gen, jrpgs have been more progressive and not pinned down to genre norms than ever, in the gameplay sense. Almost every jrpg this gen has been experimental in nature, including FF13. If anything, the traditional jrpgs, like Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Dragon Quest 9...those are the rare ones.
For every traditional Dragon Quest, there will be 10 times as many experimental games liek The World Ends With You or FF13 or Sigma Harmonics or Valkyria Chronicles or Demon's Souls or or or or or
So yeah, the past few years have been good. Unless you're a big fan of traditional rpgs.I am. And there aren't many of those.You never answered my question Beezy. What stands out to you that makes you so abrasive towards what's out?Like Himu said, there aren't many traditional rpgs. That's what I think of when I hear jrpg. All these strategy, action, and dungeon crawler rpgs are probably okay (unless they're on a handheld), but that's not what I want. Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia are still my favorites so far.
Are you arguing theres no GOOD ones - and if so, what is your examples?
Are you arguing theres barely any JRPGs out compared to last round - and if so, what examples?
For the record I barely touch my DS, and don't own a PSP, DQ9 being the only exception lately.
Himuro's opinion on SH:C is terrible. Makes sense coming from a FFXIII fan, though...
FF13 is experimental? Sure the battle system is quite different but beside from that it is so static that you thought it came from the 80s. FF12, that was the experimental one.
Skies of Arcadia is so sweet. Love the charecters, Aika is awesome. I love the part where she submits her design for your pirate flag and says something like "the cat has some gold in its mouth, which means we'll take your gold" or something. I dunno. But yeah, beautiful, lovable, fantastic game.
LO is okay, but hardly a world beater. Vesperia is the best jrpg this gen, but it is not the best Tales game.I did say MY favorites.
dragon quarter is terrible,it feels like everything in the game is tailor suited to piss off the player,limited inventory? check! few save points? check! save points require rare item to use like in resident evil? check! gimmick system forcing you to restart the game if you screw up? check! equipment that's unusable and just take up precious inventory space when you find it until you identify it? check!
oh and in the european version you can't even quick save,they probably realized the game wasn't still being annoying enough
i seriously don't understand how anybody can get into it other that it feature strategy rpg like combat,which mostly boils to placing traps around and use rin to push them away while you stockpile AP,EXCITING! maybe someone will come here and says "bubububu the bosses are so awesome" but i seriously couldn't be bothered to keep playing for more than 3 hours
vagrant story sucks a little less but still sucks
dragon quarter is terrible,it feels like everything in the game is tailor suited to piss off the player,limited inventory? check! few save points? check! save points require rare item to use like in resident evil? check! gimmick system forcing you to restart the game if you screw up? check! equipment that's unusable and just take up precious inventory space when you find it until you identify it? check!
oh and in the european version you can't even quick save,they probably realized the game wasn't still being annoying enough
i seriously don't understand how anybody can get into it other that it feature strategy rpg like combat,which mostly boils to placing traps around and use rin to push them away while you stockpile AP,EXCITING! maybe someone will come here and says "bubububu the bosses are so awesome" but i seriously couldn't be bothered to keep playing for more than 3 hours
vagrant story sucks a little less but still sucks
dragon quarter is terrible,it feels like everything in the game is tailor suited to piss off the player,limited inventory? check! few save points? check! save points require rare item to use like in resident evil? check! gimmick system forcing you to restart the game if you screw up? check! equipment that's unusable and just take up precious inventory space when you find it until you identify it? check!
oh and in the european version you can't even quick save,they probably realized the game wasn't still being annoying enough
i seriously don't understand how anybody can get into it other that it feature strategy rpg like combat,which mostly boils to placing traps around and use rin to push them away while you stockpile AP,EXCITING! maybe someone will come here and says "bubububu the bosses are so awesome" but i seriously couldn't be bothered to keep playing for more than 3 hours
vagrant story sucks a little less but still sucks
shit, magus. You are going to weeaboo hell