Author Topic: Does Skies of Arcadia have the most likeable party ever? (Read 6267 times)

SantaC · « **on:** July 17, 2010, 01:18:21 PM »

I recently took my yearly spin at SoAL and I have to say that Vyse is fucking amazing as the main character. He is as perfect as you can be and what amazing is that the supporting cast are likeable as well. Usually there are a couple of douches that I cannot stand but this game nails it. SoA is among my fav RPGs ever, and SoAL is improved upon in most aspects. It adds new "exploration" elements and some other stuff as well. (like "angel of death" sidequest) It's probably my favorite "overworld" ever since searching the sky for new stuff is hella fun.

SoAL shits on any Final Fantasy game.

magus · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:22:24 PM »

demi · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:23:23 PM »

SantaC · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:23:36 PM »

Quote from: magus on July 17, 2010, 01:22:24 PM

no

compelling arguement.

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:29:38 PM »

hey, its the last JRPG I played to completion, has it been a decade already?

In all seriousness, internal Sega teams still rock, its a shame they don't get a chance to do so more often.

magus · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:32:37 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on July 17, 2010, 01:23:36 PM

Quote from: magus on July 17, 2010, 01:22:24 PM
no

compelling arguement.

you want an argument?
demi agree's with me

Bebpo · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:34:04 PM »

late to the no

demi · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:34:49 PM »

Does Skies of Arcadia have the most likable party ever?

* click *

OMG I LOVE VYSE KAWAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

oh and i uh i guess the other people are cool too

- SantaC

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #8 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:39:41 PM »

Skies of Arcadia was the last JRPG I played all the way until the end. Give me a sequel already, goddamit.

Bulleta©™® · « **Reply #9 on:** July 17, 2010, 02:00:04 PM »

I preferred FF6's. Got to know the characters in various ways throughout the game, from meeting the first time, getting the character back, and usually an end-game closure-type thing.

Aika's the best in SoA though.

SantaC · « **Reply #10 on:** July 17, 2010, 02:45:02 PM »

Quote from: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2010, 02:00:04 PM

I preferred FF6's. Got to know the characters in various ways throughout the game, from meeting the first time, getting the character back, and usually an end-game closure-type thing.

Aika's the best in SoA though.

Aika is cool also, and it was sweet that you could build your own base.

Beezy · « **Reply #11 on:** July 17, 2010, 02:53:51 PM »

Quote from: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2010, 02:00:04 PM

Aika's the best in SoA though.

LAMBDA BURST

SantaC · « **Reply #12 on:** July 17, 2010, 04:13:33 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on July 17, 2010, 02:53:51 PM

Quote from: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2010, 02:00:04 PM
Aika's the best in SoA though.
LAMBDA BURST

piiiirates wraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaath

magus · « **Reply #13 on:** July 17, 2010, 04:21:01 PM »

Confession

even tough this might be bland... i really like FF7 cast :'(

Beezy · « **Reply #14 on:** July 17, 2010, 04:26:53 PM »

Man, I really liked that SoA, despite the slow ass airship battles. Cool world, exploration, lots of sidequests, build-a-base, no uguu that I can remember...

magus · « **Reply #15 on:** July 17, 2010, 04:31:31 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on July 17, 2010, 04:26:53 PM

Man, I really liked that SoA, despite the slow ass airship battles. Cool world, exploration, lots of sidequests, build-a-base, no uguu that I can remember...

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Positive Touch · « **Reply #16 on:** July 17, 2010, 04:38:03 PM »

the cast is only great if you like your weeaboo turned up to 11 11,000

no uguu wtf beezy? that was seriously all there was to this game

magus · « **Reply #17 on:** July 17, 2010, 04:52:14 PM »

personaly i don't think skies of arcadia is bad but between the slowish battles and the run-off-the-mill plot it always struck me as averagish

etiolate · « **Reply #18 on:** July 17, 2010, 06:07:29 PM »

Skies of Arcadia and FF6 have the best casts. I don't know where the "uguu" comments come from. Nothing is overly cute wankery. The characters have appropriately adventurous attitudes. It is a little goofy, but I'll take the humor over the shallow emo behavior thats corrupted JRPG characters. I'd rather have Whedon-like characters than 90210 characters any day.

Third · « **Reply #19 on:** July 17, 2010, 06:17:02 PM »

The males in FFVIII look better than the females.

demi · « **Reply #20 on:** July 17, 2010, 06:44:41 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on July 17, 2010, 04:13:33 PM

Quote from: Beezy on July 17, 2010, 02:53:51 PM
Quote from: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2010, 02:00:04 PM
Aika's the best in SoA though.
LAMBDA BURST

piiiirates wraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaath

Another Vyse mention

Positive Touch · « **Reply #21 on:** July 17, 2010, 06:57:40 PM »

i say it's uguu cuz it feels like you're just moving from one cliched anime plot point to the next

also third, MUCH BETTER AVATAR CHOICE. i'm finally going to be able to see her live the october

Third · « **Reply #22 on:** July 17, 2010, 07:15:52 PM »

Lucky bastard.

I hope she'll tour someday near my place/country also. Would love to see her live.

Beezy · « **Reply #23 on:** July 17, 2010, 07:16:57 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on July 17, 2010, 06:07:29 PM

Skies of Arcadia and FF6 have the best casts. I don't know where the "uguu" comments come from. Nothing is overly cute wankery. The characters have appropriately adventurous attitudes. It is a little goofy, but I'll take the humor over the shallow emo behavior thats corrupted JRPG characters. I'd rather have Whedon-like characters than 90210 characters any day.

Exactly. I consider uguu to be cutesy loli shit.

Himu · « **Reply #24 on:** July 17, 2010, 07:36:28 PM »

BORYS

Bildi · « **Reply #25 on:** July 17, 2010, 08:15:24 PM »

I liked the whole cast as far as I recall, so

SOA.

FFX onwards seem to have casts bursting with annoying twats. I can't get where you guys are coming from at all.

SantaC · « **Reply #26 on:** July 17, 2010, 08:37:05 PM »

FFVIII had a pretty good cast also except that Rinoa was shit annoying.

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FFX onwards seem to have casts bursting with annoying twats. I can't get where you guys are coming from at all.

That's because Squaresoft became Square Enix and lost their mind.

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Another Vyse mention

vyse is so cool

MCD · « **Reply #27 on:** July 17, 2010, 09:21:09 PM »

suikoden + breath of fire > this sega trash.

Himu · « **Reply #28 on:** July 17, 2010, 09:25:20 PM »

Ichirou · « **Reply #29 on:** July 17, 2010, 10:13:15 PM »

Suikoden III has a great cast, too bad the game is ruined by the awful ending.

Skies of Arcadia's cast is very loveable. Aika, Fina, and Vyse were an awesome trio. It's too bad we'll never get a proper sequel, because it was a great game. I did pretty much everything in that game except one of the discoveries I could never find.

Ichirou · « **Reply #30 on:** July 17, 2010, 10:20:07 PM »

Never played this "Shadow Hearts Covenant" of which you speak.

demi · « **Reply #31 on:** July 17, 2010, 10:20:33 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on July 17, 2010, 10:16:56 PM

Shadow Hearts Covenant has the best cast ever. Fuck anyone who disagrees.

Oooh I forgot this one. Definitely a huge contender. Yuri > Vyse

Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** July 17, 2010, 10:58:19 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 17, 2010, 10:13:15 PM

Suikoden III has a great cast, too bad the game is ruined by the awful ending.

What in the fuck. The ending is the best ending in the series.

Ichirou · « **Reply #33 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:26:10 PM »

Shut up, you're stupid. And wrong. In all the other games, the wars end with major political and social upheaval, whereas in Suikoden III, everything goes back to the way it was, a total reset button.

Himu · « **Reply #34 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:32:39 PM »

What are you talking about? Suikoden III's ending is great because it propels the series main story forward. If you're talking about the main characters endings, I agree they suck. I'm talking about Luc's ending, aka the true ending.

Ichirou · « **Reply #35 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:40:39 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on July 17, 2010, 11:32:39 PM

What are you talking about? Suikoden III's ending is great because it propels the series main story forward. If you're talking about the main characters endings, I agree they suck. I'm talking about Luc's ending, aka the true ending.

Luc's ending is absolutely worthless and meaningless, as are all the other characters' endings. The main appeal of the game series has always been to show countries in the midst of revolutions and wars and how the political and geographical landscape is massively changed by the end of the game. This time around, NOTHING HAPPENED.

Himu · « **Reply #36 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:49:34 PM »

That's the main appeal to you. Political and geographical changes aren't the heart of Suikoden. War is. Even without change, 3's ending is fine. I've never heard anyone complain about geographical and political changes being the appeal of Suikoden

Ichirou · « **Reply #37 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:52:03 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on July 17, 2010, 11:49:34 PM

That's the main appeal to you. Political and geographical changes aren't the heart of Suikoden. War is. Even without change, 3's ending is fine. I've never heard anyone complain about geographical and political changes being the appeal of Suikoden

Exactly, you doofus. War and how you conquer and unite kingdoms and shit. In Suikoden III, everything just goes back to the way it was, when throughout the whole game they were building towards the unification of the smaller regions that had been split off from each other and were at war. You can really tell the game's director (who also created the series) got fired near the end of the game.

In conclusion, you're wrong.

Himuro: Wrong on Bayonetta, wrong on Suikoden III, wrong for America.

Himu · « **Reply #38 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:57:25 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 17, 2010, 11:52:03 PM

Quote from: Himuro on July 17, 2010, 11:49:34 PM
That's the main appeal to you. Political and geographical changes aren't the heart of Suikoden. War is. Even without change, 3's ending is fine. I've never heard anyone complain about geographical and political changes being the appeal of Suikoden

Exactly, you doofus. War and how you conquer and unite kingdoms and shit. In Suikoden III, everything just goes back to the way it was, when throughout the whole game they were building towards the unification of the smaller regions that had been split off from each other and were at war. You can really tell the game's director (who also created the series) got fired near the end of the game.

In conclusion, you're wrong.

Himuro: Wrong on Bayonetta, wrong on Suikoden III, wrong for America.

What are you expecting, the grasslands and Zexen to form a treaty so that they're one country?

They signed an alliance and war was absolved. It's basically the same result as past games. How does this make it a weak ending? Suikoden endings are always great due to the interpersonal relationships between various characters: Jowy and Riou in 2; Tir and Gremio in 1; Luc and his fate. The wars are, and always have been, pure icing. No one really remembers Suikoden 2's emotional ending because you have basically become the new ruler of a country or that City States take over Highland's land after their recently appointed king fled. People remember the ending because of Jowy vs Riou. The same is true for 3's ending.

Ichirou: wrong in general.

Don't test me on Suikoden.

Ichirou · « **Reply #39 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:01:20 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on July 17, 2010, 11:57:25 PM

Quote from: Ichirou on July 17, 2010, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: Himuro on July 17, 2010, 11:49:34 PM
That's the main appeal to you. Political and geographical changes aren't the heart of Suikoden. War is. Even without change, 3's ending is fine. I've never heard anyone complain about geographical and political changes being the appeal of Suikoden

Exactly, you doofus. War and how you conquer and unite kingdoms and shit. In Suikoden III, everything just goes back to the way it was, when throughout the whole game they were building towards the unification of the smaller regions that had been split off from each other and were at war. You can really tell the game's director (who also created the series) got fired near the end of the game.

In conclusion, you're wrong.

Himuro: Wrong on Bayonetta, wrong on Suikoden III, wrong for America.

What are you expecting, the grasslands and Zexen to form a treaty so that they're one country? They signed an alliance and war was absolved. It's basically the same result as past games. How does this make it a weak ending? Suikoden endings are always great due to the interpersonal relationships between various characters: Jowy and Riou in 2; Tir and Gremio in 1; Luc and his fate. The wars are, and always have been, pure icing. No one really remembers Suikoden 2's emotional ending because you have basically become the new ruler of a country or that City States take over Highland's land after their recently appointed king fled. People remember the ending because of Jowy vs Riou. The same is true for 3's ending.

Ichirou: wrong in general.

Don't test me on Suikoden.

Dude, you admitted that the main characters' endings in III sucked in a previous post, even though you had said Suikoden III had a great ending, and now you're saying that the reason the endings in previous games were great was because of the characters. You're making no sense at all, so I'm just going to assume you're high as a kite.

Burn in Hell, Himuro.

Himu · « **Reply #40 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:03:02 AM »

The main character endings sucked due to lack of development. Characters say a few lines and then it's credits time.

But Luc's portion of the game, however, makes up for this which not only contains some of the best development in the series, but also the future of Suikoden that we still haven't gotten.

Ichirou · « **Reply #41 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:04:08 AM »

Luc isn't one of the main characters and we don't even know it's him until past the halfway point of the game. You fail. None of the previous games relied on "Well, it's awesome because it might affect the way the games turn out in the future at some point in time", which, let's face it, is never going to happen now because the director/creator of the series was fired from Konami during Suikoden III's development.

Suicide is the only way to escape your shame, Himuro. Seppuku is a noble thing, the samurais did it in your beloved ancient Japan.

Himu · « **Reply #42 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:05:55 AM »

You can play as Luc if you get all 108. You get an extra scenario after beating the main game. It's like a 2-3 hour long romp, and it's widely considered to be the true ending to Suikoden III.

I should kill myself anyways, since I will never get a true sequel to Suikoden III.

Ichirou · « **Reply #43 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:08:20 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on July 18, 2010, 12:05:55 AM

I should kill myself anyways, since I will never get a true sequel to Suikoden III.

Yes. I win.

Himu · « **Reply #44 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:10:55 AM »

I have been waiting since 2003.

God.

fucking.

Dammit.

Ichirou · « **Reply #45 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:13:14 AM »

You'll have to keep waiting until Konami decides to hire Yoshitaka Murayama back.

Which will be never.

Which means suicide is the only solution.

Himu · « **Reply #46 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:14:27 AM »

Murayama has hinted he may be going back to Konami to help develop Suikoden VI.

Ichirou · « **Reply #47 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:15:28 AM »

It's never going to happen, Himu-chan. The dream is collapsing.

Himu · « **Reply #48 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:16:55 AM »

It...could happen. Have faith!

:'(

Ichirou · « **Reply #49 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:19:56 AM »

I hope it does happen, and I hope Suikoden VI gets announced.

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As a 360 exclusive.

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Himu · « **Reply #50 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:21:06 AM »

I'm hijacking this thread and making it a Suikoden thread since Suikoden is superior to everything and I haven't had one in a while.

[youtube=560,345]WSSEcgooY-I[/youtube]

RIP my prince

Himu · « **Reply #51 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:21:35 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 18, 2010, 12:19:56 AM

I hope it does happen, and I hope Suikoden VI gets announced.

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As a 360 exclusive.
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I would so buy another 360 for this.

Ichirou · « **Reply #52 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:23:03 AM »

Then right after you do, Suikoden VI International Version will get announced for PS3.

Himu · « **Reply #53 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:24:37 AM »

I would buy any version of Suikoden.

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Ichirou · « **Reply #54 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:26:03 AM »

More like

Himu · « **Reply #55 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:26:41 AM »

I...have not played my baby in years.

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It's calling me.

I'm going to replay it after Zelda and DQ9.

Best ever. Homos.

Ichirou · « **Reply #56 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:31:00 AM »

Nah, Sakura Wars is better, but you refuse to play it because the idea of playing a game with girls in it makes your dick retract into your abdomen.

Himu · « **Reply #57 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:32:08 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 18, 2010, 12:26:03 AM

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demi · « **Reply #58 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:33:01 AM »

Can we go back to Skies. At least thats playable

Himu · « **Reply #59 on:** July 18, 2010, 12:34:06 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 18, 2010, 12:31:00 AM

Nah, Sakura Wars is better, but you refuse to play it because the idea of playing a game with girls in it makes your dick retract into your abdomen.

Sorry but Suikoden is way better. No substitutes. Konami had the best rpg series on their hands and they destroyed it.

I'll never forgive them.

And the chances of me getting a new Suikoden are more slim than you getting a new Sakura Wars, which appear to be made still!

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Author Topic: Does Skies of Arcadia have the most likeable party ever? (Read 6267 times)