This has been well known.
This has been well known.
Yeah, all the people freaking out because it's not an RPG over at GAF baffle me... this has been common knowledge for quite a while.
This has been well known.
Yeah, all the people freaking out because it's not an RPG over at GAF baffle me... this has been common knowledge for quite a while.
haha you're kidding
this has never been insinuated as being an rpg like ever
Yeah I really don't understand the gameplay... I thought it was going to be like Persona ?
It's a puzzler .. ? It's really hard to tell from this video...
there's a demo?!!??!
haven't had to use my jp account in a while
Raystorm HD?!?!?1demo on the 360 was boring
Raystorm HD?!?!?1demo on the 360 was boring
It looks really interesting, but coming from a team who joined the current gen a bit late due to high costs of development, they sure didn't pick a genre and a game concept that would sell well.
At least now I know why they decided to pump it with risqué content.
Disappointing. Looks like shit.
I want to download the Catherine demo really bad but I only have a 360 :'(
I want this game so bad!
But XBL is free...
Someone explain this to me, and whether or not I'll ever get to play it
At the same time, news is showing stories of people dying in their dreams, and he's started to have scary dreams too.
Someone explain this to me, and whether or not I'll ever get to play it
Story:
Guy has been dating a girl for ages, and she wants to get married, but he's scared to commit.
At the same time, news is showing stories of people dying in their dreams, and he's started to have scary dreams too.
Then this sassy girl appears, who seems to have an interest in him, and this whole love triangle thing kicks off.
Gameplay:
You have to escape dungeons, by climbing up a block-based action puzzle (think Mr. Driller in reverse). This is in your dreams.
If you die in your dreams, I guess you die in real life.
The gameplay will also include mobile phone emails, where you have to decide whether to reply to certain conversations or not. This will affect the story in ways currently unknown.
Wait. How is this a megaten game? There's absolutely nothing linking this game to megaten at all.
Wait. How is Maken X a megaten game? Bebpo, are you classifying these games based on staff or something?
I always wanted to play Maken X but never did. Looked for it and Maken Shao (PS2 version) in Japan last year but couldn't find them.
Last time I saw Maken X it was being cleared out at Super Potato for 10 yen. Probably why you couldn't find them anymore.
At first glance they have similar styles. I don't get why it's that much of a stretch. It's like first seeing a picture of Tobal and thinking it was a Chrono Trigger fighting game.
Well yes, with the same artist working on both megaten and non-megaten games, I could see how the ig'nint might confuse them, but Bebpo isn't ig'nint.
Is the demo up in the us store?
No. Game hasn't even been officially announced for an English release as of yet.
I never thought Maken X was a Megaten game, wtf!it is?
I always wanted to play Maken X but never did. Looked for it and Maken Shao (PS2 version) in Japan last year but couldn't find them.
Last time I saw Maken X it was being cleared out at Super Potato for 10 yen. Probably why you couldn't find them anymore.
:(
I'd be fine with the NA version, even though it censors all the Nazi and pope stuff.
I always wanted to play Maken X but never did. Looked for it and Maken Shao (PS2 version) in Japan last year but couldn't find them.
Last time I saw Maken X it was being cleared out at Super Potato for 10 yen. Probably why you couldn't find them anymore.
:(
I'd be fine with the NA version, even though it censors all the Nazi and pope stuff.
So is there any event or somesuch where they might announce an English release or are we just waiting for a random presser?
Atlus can't afford events. They'll announce it soon after the JP release, I imagine.
It's not.
Patel wasn't trying to say that it is.
nice to see a protagonist in his 30s with girl problems beyond "oh no how do I talk to catgirl breasts"
btw, played this last night, and it's totally great. while it's a puzzle game it's an awesome puzzle game, and the style and presentation are off the chain. also love the characters and dialogue - nice to see a protagonist in his 30s with girl problems beyond "oh no how do I talk to catgirl breasts"
btw, played this last night, and it's totally great. while it's a puzzle game it's an awesome puzzle game, and the style and presentation are off the chain. also love the characters and dialogue - nice to see a protagonist in his 30s with girl problems beyond "oh no how do I talk to catgirl breasts"
to be fair, this is unique to both sides of the ocean
I always love reading through manuals and seeing the character profiles...
Stalwart hero -- 15 years old
Grizzled war hero, the wise mentor -- 23 years old
I always love reading through manuals and seeing the character profiles...
Stalwart hero -- 15 years old
Grizzled war hero, the wise mentor -- 23 years old
It's Densha Otoko except worse and with more incest.
Luckily, Americans have their brains wired correctly and nobody has any interest in incest and incest-related porn. :american
Luckily, Americans have their brains wired correctly and nobody has any interest in incest and incest-related porn. :american
Except for those non-gift giving Kentuckyians
Speaking of embarrassing Japanese shit, what the fuck is wrong with people when they buy a game called:
"My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute"
I haven't a clue what it is (no way I'm searching for it) but honestly Japan :-\
Luckily, Americans have their brains wired correctly and nobody has any interest in incest and incest-related porn. :american
that could be because Microsoft doesn't charge publishers for bandwidth usage.Correct.
They don't. Right?
that could be because Microsoft doesn't charge publishers for bandwidth usage.
They don't. Right?
that could be because Microsoft doesn't charge publishers for bandwidth usage.
They don't. Right?
where was this fury during Finger F*ck Underage Witches or whatever it was called (Touch Catch Witch?)
So weird to see PS3 versions outselling 360. Then again, it's Japan, so it's weird seeing 360 titles in the top ten at all.
So weird to see PS3 versions outselling 360. Then again, it's Japan, so it's weird seeing 360 titles in the top ten at all.
The 360 version made it to the top ten? Christ. That's insane.
What's crazy is that it only accounts for less than 22k of the total 160k. :-\So weird to see PS3 versions outselling 360. Then again, it's Japan, so it's weird seeing 360 titles in the top ten at all.
The 360 version made it to the top ten? Christ. That's insane.
What's crazy is that it only accounts for less than 22k of the total 160k. :-\So weird to see PS3 versions outselling 360. Then again, it's Japan, so it's weird seeing 360 titles in the top ten at all.
The 360 version made it to the top ten? Christ. That's insane.
:lol
I dunno what you guys should feel bad about, it's been well-established that Japanese gamers have some pretty awful taste. No need to get upset :)
What? I'm loving this game so far and everyone else I know who is playing it thinks it'll be a serious contender for GotY. I'm really happy with this game and its sales performance, because it did something different successfully.
I think Japanese developers will look at this (at least Atlus will) and be more willing to do creative, new ideas.
I think we're pretty much the same kind of gamer. We like challenges, and never stray from difficult titles. I am a Golden God in Super Meat Boy!
That having been said, the game design of Catherine is absolutely horrible.
You get only 5 continues -- for the whole game. Once you run out, you have to load from a save file.
What this means is that for a puzzle that takes 50 times to complete (and it will take you that many times for some of them), you would have to rewatch the same 2-3 minute cutscenes 49 times.
So, if you use several of your continues in the beginning stages (which you will) and then save with only one or two continues, you will literally spend more time watching the same cutscene over and over than playing the game.
That's the complaint about the game in Japan. Not that it's too hard, but that "5 continues" is completely arbitrary and forces you to unnecessarily waste hours of your life.
Ways this mechanic could be forgivable:
- Your 5 continues could be refreshed for each new level (they aren't)
- You could load a save file that puts you right at the beginning of the puzzle (you can't)
- You could just have infinite continues
I'm curious as to what Atlus intends to do with the patch. I don't want the game to be less difficult at all; the difficulty is just fine as-is. I simply want to actually play the game instead of watching the same cutscene for 2 hours in exchange for 5 minutes of gameplay.
You still have to sit through talking at the bar where you last saved, then wait for each cutscene to load before you can skip, PLUS there's an unskippable cutscene at the beginning of each stage while entering the door.
There's no solution, Atlus just released an unplayable piece of software. I'll wait for the patch.
Sounds pretty legit to me. One of my most frustrating peevs is unskippable cutscenes (no mention of it in that post). I dont even mind having to replay all over, but if you cant skip scenes I'll go Hulk.
"Catherine is a Japan-only game," they said, "and there are no plans for a North American release at this time. Sorry about that!"
A PR REPRESENTATIVE REFUSED COMMENT, LET'S MAKE A NEWSPOSTQuote"Catherine is a Japan-only game," they said, "and there are no plans for a North American release at this time. Sorry about that!"
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/218323/top-story-catherine-may-not-be-coming-to-america/
>:(
If you believe for one second that BeefJack.com has the exclusive scoop on Atlus USA's release plans then you deserve the Internet you have created in your mind.
If you believe for one second that BeefJack.com has the exclusive scoop on Atlus USA's release plans then you deserve the Internet you have created in your mind.
What are you even talking about?
Hey, it's not problem that news sites across the internet are reporting it as the truth. :patel
Didn't Atlus publish Operation Darkness? If they published that, I'm sure Catherine, developed by their most high profile team, will make it westward.
Quote"Catherine is a Japan-only game," they said, "and there are no plans for a North American release at this time. Sorry about that!"
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/218323/top-story-catherine-may-not-be-coming-to-america/
>:(
:lol
It's coming, man. I guarantee it 100%. Atlus just isn't going to give beefncheddar.com an exclusive on an unannounced title.
...Great Rumbler is still welcome to stick a blonde wig on me and call me Catherine. I mean, if he wants. No pressure.
I dig the hot pink + Renaissance typography combo!
uh, wtf? beefjack.com said it wasnt coming. fake.
Sounds like a bunch of crying babbies who fail at games. Maybe Atlus should send out reps to rub people's tummies while they play too. Sprinkle some baby powder on their asses, mayhap.
360 version had better be region-free.
It looks like Atlus is already working on a patch to make the game easier. Normally I'd be against this, but fubarduck is going on about how the game is horribly designed, so maybe not.Quote from: fubarduckI think we're pretty much the same kind of gamer. We like challenges, and never stray from difficult titles. I am a Golden God in Super Meat Boy!
That having been said, the game design of Catherine is absolutely horrible.
You get only 5 continues -- for the whole game. Once you run out, you have to load from a save file.
What this means is that for a puzzle that takes 50 times to complete (and it will take you that many times for some of them), you would have to rewatch the same 2-3 minute cutscenes 49 times.
So, if you use several of your continues in the beginning stages (which you will) and then save with only one or two continues, you will literally spend more time watching the same cutscene over and over than playing the game.
That's the complaint about the game in Japan. Not that it's too hard, but that "5 continues" is completely arbitrary and forces you to unnecessarily waste hours of your life.
Ways this mechanic could be forgivable:
- Your 5 continues could be refreshed for each new level (they aren't)
- You could load a save file that puts you right at the beginning of the puzzle (you can't)
- You could just have infinite continues
I'm curious as to what Atlus intends to do with the patch. I don't want the game to be less difficult at all; the difficulty is just fine as-is. I simply want to actually play the game instead of watching the same cutscene for 2 hours in exchange for 5 minutes of gameplay.
That sounds awful. Why not allow the player to save AFTER the cutscenes and load screens, right before beginning a new puzzle? They did shit like this in their RPGs too, but I can see it being infinitely more annoying in a fast, skill-based, and apparently challenging game like Catherine. distinguished mentally-challenged.
Not that it's too hard, but that "5 continues" is completely arbitrary and forces you to unnecessarily waste hours of your life.
I'm sticking to the regular, non-forever-alone edition.
what the fuck you guys are giant weeaboos. How can ure dick not be gettin rock hard right now
Atlus just wants this game to bomb badly. Cant say I blame em.Isn't this game basically the HD Persona beta test? Any money made off of this is a bonus. Neither piece of clothing will fit my giant 6'5" self so I suppose I'll just go regular. The shirt might look nice on the waifu though...
:lol $80
US version will be region locked though.
fuck I want this LE: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YVC1F8/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
the t-shirt and underpants are so awesome. will buy
Still waiting on a PAL release :(
Still waiting on a PAL release :(
Region-free PS3, duder.
Sooooooo I'm hearing about this everywhere, should I buy it?
Nearly bought a copy off ebay for $55 before I realised it was the moonspeak version. Going to check play-asia instead.
Amazon shipped late for you guys. Mine is already out for delivery.
Amazon shipped late for you guys. Mine is already out for delivery.
Late? I live in the land of Amazon. It was on my doorstep at 9am.
Amazon shipped my copy this morning, should be here tomorrow. :rock
Yep. Lyte is missing out on awesome Amazon-land.
Amazon shipped late for you guys. Mine is already out for delivery.
Late? I live in the land of Amazon. It was on my doorstep at 9am.Amazon shipped my copy this morning, should be here tomorrow. :rock
???
I usually like Atlus dubs, but I don't like this one at all so far. The Japanese audio track would've been nice.
I usually like Atlus dubs, but I don't like this one at all so far. The Japanese audio track would've been nice.
What sucks is that this is probably indicative of all Atlus R&D1 localizations on future X360/PS3 games. Doesn't seem like they're willing to do dual language tracks like NIS or Koei or Sega.
I usually like Atlus dubs, but I don't like this one at all so far. The Japanese audio track would've been nice.
What sucks is that this is probably indicative of all Atlus R&D1 localizations on future X360/PS3 games. Doesn't seem like they're willing to do dual language tracks like NIS or Koei or Sega.
This is literally ENTIRELY Atlus Japan's fault, btw. :japancry
Bad idea. If you get dying, then switch to easy for 1 stage. In easy every pillow is worth 3x, so you'll rack up a bunch and then you can change back.
I caved.
Had to drive to no less than 5 gamestops, 2 best buys, and a Target in Chicago to find this. I heard my quota of "OH BRAH YOU GOTTA RESERVE OR ELSE THE GAMES ARE JUST GONE AND YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET THEM" speeches for the year. The one time a game is scarce at release and they pounce on it and act like this is a common occurrence. I usually don't bitch about gamestop but man, I wish I could say ANYTHING to get them to stop their preorder speeches forever. I straight up say "I will not be preordering anything today" in advance and I still get it ("Oh? Are you sure you don't want to preorder? *names every game coming out in the next 6 months*".) Even at the one I frequent, where the guys know me and we chat and stuff, they still say it every time and are like "sorry man I gotta ask this, my job you know" as if they're recording us.
anyway, enough venting....I am installing, puffing some herb, and playing...in that order
I caved.
Had to drive to no less than 5 gamestops, 2 best buys, and a Target in Chicago to find this. I heard my quota of "OH BRAH YOU GOTTA RESERVE OR ELSE THE GAMES ARE JUST GONE AND YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET THEM" speeches for the year. The one time a game is scarce at release and they pounce on it and act like this is a common occurrence. I usually don't bitch about gamestop but man, I wish I could say ANYTHING to get them to stop their preorder speeches forever. I straight up say "I will not be preordering anything today" in advance and I still get it ("Oh? Are you sure you don't want to preorder? *names every game coming out in the next 6 months*".) Even at the one I frequent, where the guys know me and we chat and stuff, they still say it every time and are like "sorry man I gotta ask this, my job you know" as if they're recording us.
anyway, enough venting....I am installing, puffing some herb, and playing...in that order
I just say "not interested" and leave it at that. They are being told to go through the motions, so I understand these guys nagging, but it does nothing but make me want to avoid returning as much as possible.
And I do just that, ordering 99% of games from Amazon. No bullshit, no hassle.
And as expected, my brother replies by saying "I don't want this weird porno. I don't even want it sitting on my desk. Get it out of my sight. I'm not going to play it".
:-\
Basically what I figured. Just like when I bought him Killer 7 and Okami and Yakuza and he never touched any of them. :( I try to broaden his narrow view of gaming and show him that there's smarter things in gaming than God of War or Dead Space or Call of Duty, but he doesn't care.
I'm really bad at selling non-gamers on gaming >_<
did you really expect a game with animated cutscenes that are hyper sexually charged and thematic as this to appeal to someone who doesn't have taste like ours, bebpo, which is to say super SUPER niche? please tell me you aren't this naive.
I caved.
Had to drive to no less than 5 gamestops, 2 best buys, and a Target in Chicago to find this. I heard my quota of "OH BRAH YOU GOTTA RESERVE OR ELSE THE GAMES ARE JUST GONE AND YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET THEM" speeches for the year. The one time a game is scarce at release and they pounce on it and act like this is a common occurrence. I usually don't bitch about gamestop but man, I wish I could say ANYTHING to get them to stop their preorder speeches forever. I straight up say "I will not be preordering anything today" in advance and I still get it ("Oh? Are you sure you don't want to preorder? *names every game coming out in the next 6 months*".) Even at the one I frequent, where the guys know me and we chat and stuff, they still say it every time and are like "sorry man I gotta ask this, my job you know" as if they're recording us.
anyway, enough venting....I am installing, puffing some herb, and playing...in that order
Well this game was great up until thecomplete with distinguished mentally-challenged fellow AI that causes you to fail every time. UGHspoiler (click to show/hide)escort mission[close]
P3 and P4 have a better story though, so I guess adult characters are inferior after all.
This isn't an RPG though, dweeb. Worry about your story elsewhere.
P3 and P4 have a better story though, so I guess adult characters are inferior after all.
I don't give a shit about RPGs or stories.
when does nier get good?
when does nier get good?
when does nier get good?
HERP DERP ON THE SECOND PLAYTHROUGH. You just don't understaaaaaaaand maaaaaaaaaaan. It's like, totally deep and like, awesome. BUT YOU HAVE TO PLAY THROUGH IT TWICE!
Fuck that boring ass game.
Catherine being Atlus' most successful launch has me thinking that when they do release Persona 5 in the States, they should just rebrand that shit. All the fans will know it's Persona 5, but if gamers are willing to give Catherine a go they might be willing to give Persona 5 a go if it is released under a different title. I think people are less likely to just pick up Persona 5 on a whim, even if the story has nothing to do with the previous series entries.
It would infuriate the fanboyz though. :japancry
Catherine was a success because it was put on a platform where people actually buy games.That and the HAY GUYZ SEXXXXX marketing.
Catherine was a success because it was put on a platform where people actually buy games.That and the HAY GUYZ SEXXXXX marketing.
And a tsundere.
There is nothing remotely tsundere about Kaine. What the fuck are you talking about Himu?
just like how everyone was intimidated by final fantasy 7 despite never having heard of final fantasy, making ff7 a huge bomb.
Picked this up, I'm really impressed by the storyline and writing so far, its very refreshing to play someone my age. Having split up with my gf over her wanting to get more serious and dedicated, the first chaptere certainly spoke to me.
The puzzle elements are kinda eh, I almost wish I could skip them
spoiler (click to show/hide)How the fuck do I save the dudes that come to the bar? I talk to them and they still die.[close]
AI part sucks but you can tell them to stop.
As for the other people in the bar just talk to them in the bar and dream. A lot of people leave the bar after a certain time so you have to choose who to converse with.
oh god dammit, is this one of those atlus games where you have to do shit that you'd only know about from reading a forum in order to get a decent ending?
oh god dammit, is this one of those atlus games where you have to do shit that you'd only know about from reading a forum in order to get a decent ending?
no
oh god dammit, is this one of those atlus games where you have to do shit that you'd only know about from reading a forum in order to get a decent ending?
no
For the various endings, HELL YES.
Lookee here:spoiler (click to show/hide)Bad Cheater's Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Chaotic Excitement" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.
Bad Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Peaceful Days" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
Good Cheater's Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Chaotic Excitement" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
Good Freedom Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in either the red or blue.
Good Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "I'm Ready" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.
True Cheater's Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
True Freedom Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be neutral.
True Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "I'm Ready" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.[close]
oh god dammit, is this one of those atlus games where you have to do shit that you'd only know about from reading a forum in order to get a decent ending?
no
For the various endings, HELL YES.
Lookee here:spoiler (click to show/hide)Bad Cheater's Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Chaotic Excitement" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.
Bad Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Peaceful Days" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
Good Cheater's Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Chaotic Excitement" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
Good Freedom Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in either the red or blue.
Good Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "I'm Ready" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.
True Cheater's Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
True Freedom Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be neutral.
True Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "I'm Ready" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.[close]
oh god dammit, is this one of those atlus games where you have to do shit that you'd only know about from reading a forum in order to get a decent ending?
no
For the various endings, HELL YES.
Lookee here:spoiler (click to show/hide)Bad Cheater's Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Chaotic Excitement" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.
Bad Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Peaceful Days" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
Good Cheater's Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Chaotic Excitement" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
Good Freedom Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in either the red or blue.
Good Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "I'm Ready" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.
True Cheater's Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "Yes" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the red.
True Freedom Ending Answer "No" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "Yes" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be neutral.
True Lovers' Ending Answer "Yes" to Question 2, "No" to Question 3, and "I'm Ready" to Question 4. Your Karma meter needs to be in the blue.[close]
On the last stage get Gold.
Make a save at the beginning of stage 7. When you beat the game and get gold, you will be able to redo that chapter and skip levels because you got gold. This means all you have to do is pick the choices and repeat. So long as you get gold so you can skip stages and a chapter 7 save, you can re-do the chapter until you acquire all endings.
:P
So the answer is no.
None of those gods mentioned are in the Persona universe to my memory. Though the inclusion of gods is very, very Persona-ish.
Beat Catherine. I really really didn't like the ending I got (true ending?) or late game revelations. They can do better than that. Now for normal mode.
Beat Catherine. I really really didn't like the ending I got (true ending?) or late game revelations. They can do better than that. Now for normal mode.spoiler (click to show/hide)Was it the wedding happily ever after ending? That's the one I got, it's the True Love one. I'll go back and do the other blue aligned endings, but don't really feel like playing through the game to get red and neutral alignments.[close]
I absolutely loved chapter 8,spoiler (click to show/hide)where Catherine and Katherine meet, Catherine gets stabbed to death and you lead Katherine out of the maze. Too bad it was all a dream.[close]
This waitress...
"Cheating is terrible"
"So tell me about this girl"
I'm glad to be done with it though.