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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 03:28:31 AM

Title: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 03:28:31 AM
Just a few more weeks!!!! Thread shitters to be banned on sight.

The music! The character portraits! The battles! The writing and story! The best strategy rpg in your hands! :hyper

[youtube=560,345]3H4YV5Waywo[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]ltAJ10iMzWY[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]RxohFJdw1ow[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]c3g5VAQVNwI[/youtube]


(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/113/1139535/tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-20101209031817845_640w.jpg)

(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/113/1139535/tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-20101209031815079_640w.jpg)

(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/113/1139535/tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-20101209031809673_640w.jpg)

(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/113/1139535/tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-20101209031823626_640w.jpg)

(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/113/1132744/tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-20101105014532667_640w.jpg)

(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/111/1112022/tactics-ogre-psp-first-look-at-the-new-rogue-class-20100812005026466_640w.jpg)

(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/110/1109591/tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-20100730092319083_640w.jpg)

(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/110/1109591/tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-20100730092325504_640w.jpg)

Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2011, 03:31:34 AM
is this like fire emblem? because i really like fire emblem
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 03:33:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/m22Tj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5bBHX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oKHKt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SQbYD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZSr99.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VedgC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZuTji.jpg)

:bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 03:34:36 AM
is this like fire emblem? because i really like fire emblem

Er...similar in that they're strategy games, yes. Has perma death (well, I'm not sure how it works in psp version) and shit.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2011, 03:39:43 AM
damn. is it coming to the DS?
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 03:41:00 AM
:lol Nope

3ds, maybe.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2011, 03:46:09 AM
this looks badass :bow
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 03:47:02 AM
The script and translation omfg :bow
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Raban on January 30, 2011, 03:49:17 AM
I'm sold. All I want now is the new Monster Hunter PSP model in the US.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 03:56:24 AM
:bow THIS THREAD :bow2

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3384411
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: magus on January 30, 2011, 05:35:10 AM
hi himuro :)

Quote
damn. is it coming to the DS?

game is a remake,the snes version is fan-translated,so if you really want you can play that
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Diunx on January 30, 2011, 11:19:40 AM
Looks like a snes game.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 11:34:27 AM
It uses the snes sprites, but no, it really doesn't.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: demi on January 30, 2011, 11:52:39 AM
eh, i guess its cool for a port. shouold have went on iphone imo.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 11:54:49 AM
Yeah, the fact they didn't re-do the sprites is dumb but beggars can't be choosers. They said the only reason they wanted to keep the sprites that was nostalgia. Why not just re-do the spirtes and retain the the same look.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 30, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
It looks more PS1 than SNES, which is fine with me for this type of game.  I just wish that they had used a more consistent art style for portraits and character sprites.  It's just odd jumping back and forth from super deformed characters to realistic adult faces, like FF7.  I'd definitely give this a try though since I've never played it before.  This game can't possibly be worse than Persona 3 POS which was also recommended by you.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: brob on January 30, 2011, 02:55:44 PM
psn release day and date? I've never played it and it would be nice to dust off the go.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 03:20:03 PM
Dunno if it's coming to psn or not :(
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: MoxManiac on January 30, 2011, 03:33:30 PM
Everything else being released in 2011 aside from this game and MvC3 can fuck off.

Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
Everything else being released in 2011 aside from this game and MvC3 can fuck off.



:heartbeat
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2011, 12:07:28 AM
WANT. NOW!

[youtube=560,345]ynKXhKCiUVc[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]ltAJ10iMzWY[/youtube]

Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2011, 03:12:18 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9068504

major spoilers for those who have never played TO
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: demi on February 01, 2011, 07:07:10 AM
nobody cares.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 01, 2011, 07:33:22 AM
Are there any significant changes from the SNES original? (I know there was a Saturn and PlayStation port)

I played the fan translated TO on an emulator a while ago and thought it was great.  However if it is just a straight up port with little or no changes, then I may just replay the SNES version on an emulator instead.
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: chronovore on February 01, 2011, 07:48:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/SQbYD.jpg)

The Witch is great, but I'm surprised they included visible pubic hair in this concept art.  :nsfw :drool
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2011, 09:03:01 AM
Are there any significant changes from the SNES original? (I know there was a Saturn and PlayStation port)

I played the fan translated TO on an emulator a while ago and thought it was great.  However if it is just a straight up port with little or no changes, then I may just replay the SNES version on an emulator instead.

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9068504
Title: Re: THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS THAT ISN'T SSF4 AND MVC3: TACTICS OGRE LUCT PSP
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2011, 06:19:34 PM
New trailer

[youtube=560,345]_9AScgKEY9E&hd=1[/youtube]

Also, a list of all gameplay changes from the SA thread:

This is only a partial list.

# Battles are now in a true 3D field, but you can't rotate the camera. You can only change views between isometric and top down.
# More classes to choose from and whole class system is revamped/rebalanced.
# CHARIOT (Combat History And Refined Implementation Of Tactics) and WORLD (Ways Of Reordering Life's Destiny) system is now available.
# The CHARIOT system allows you to rewind up to 50 turns in battle without having to restart the entire battle over. The game keeps track of how many battles you win without using CHARIOT, but I'm not sure if there is a penalty for abusing CHARIOT too much.
# The WORLD system: After beating the game, you can go backwards to certain Anchor Points in the storyline. This allows you to witness different story paths without having to replay the entire game.
# Training Mode is gone.
# Characters no longer have specific elements.
# Leveling is per class, not per character. Even at the same level, old characters that you've been leveling will be stronger than a newly joined character.
# There are no more alignment and gender restrictions on class changing.
# Demi-human and some monsters now have the option to class change too.
# Class changes now require license cards, which are used up during the process, but there are no other requirements for a class change.
# Each class no longer has a best weapon.
# The Magic system has been revamped. Some new spells were added.
# Movement has been reduced. Normally you can move 4 steps, slow units can only move 3 steps.
# New characters were added, but some characters will no longer join.
# There are some named generics that will be mentioned in the Warren Report. They don't have a special portait, but they do have better stats than a normal generic.
# A certain character now joins in the Lawful route as well. They won't leave even if you choose the Neutral route, but their loyalty will be lowered.
# What you can recruit from the shop is now limited to Human only. Demi-humans and monsters are only can be recruited on the battle field. You need specific recruit skills for specific demi-humans and monsters.
# You can inherit dead character's spell and skills, but you need to have Silver Coins.
# A skill system has been added.
# Each weapon now has new unique Finishing Blows.
# You can now equip up to 5 pieces of equipment (4 if you're using a two-handed weapon)
# A crafting system has been added and can be accessed in the shop. You can customize equipment or create new items from Chapter 2 onwards if you have the necessary Recipies.
# Equipment now have class and level restrictions.
# The gun has been weakened a lot and like the crossbow, they can't shoot beyond a certain range.
# Some accessories like the Warp Ring only last for a short time when used in battle. They won't break by using it, but the number of uses are limited per battle.
# Characters can now memorize a limitless number of spells. Just use a scroll, which will lost when used, to learn more.
# You now need to equip spell specific skills in order to be able to cast them.
# There are now 8 elements (Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, Ice, Thunder, Light, Dark) instead of 6.
# Magic range and area are now affected by INT and MND (MEN in the old versions). Weather doesn't affect the range.
# Projection magic can't hit targets standing directly next to caster unless you aim somewhere behind the target then you may hit a target that's right next to the caster.
# Undead now need to be knocked out before Exorcism takes effect.
# Some spells no longer affect the whole map.
# Certain spells now require Catalysts to cast.
# Healing now damages the Undead.
# Except for basic items, you need to learn a skill to use higher grade items.
# A Tarot Card you picked up can be used later through the Items interface.
# Items no longer needed to be equipped. Just choose command to bring up list.
# Some items are no longer automatically used in battle (Warp/Teleport Stone etc.)
# Orbs no longer affect whole map.
# Even if you can't cast spells, you can just use a similar scroll for same effect. Ex: A Berserker can cast Exorcism, but you need to stock up scrolls to do it. Using scrolls does not need MP or Catalysts. This might be a cheap and quick way to cast magic depending on the situation.
# When characters are knocked out in battle, they must be revived within 3 turns. If you fail to revive a character, they will be removed from the battle and lose one life.
# Each character now have 3 lives. Lose all 3 and they will be dead forever.
# You can bring up to 12 units to battle instead of the original 10. L-size units now count as 1 unit.
# You can now save during battle.
# If it is not story battle, you can retreat at any time. You don't lose recruited characters and treasure by retreating.
# You need to learn different recruit skills to recruit specific units.
# Petrify is now timed. It doesn't last for the entire whole battle now.
# Treasure drops are now randomized.
# Tree, Rock and Barrels etc.. on the map can be destroyed.
# Items that you can pick up in battle are limited to consumables only, but these can be picked up every battle. The odds can be improved with some skills. Luck has nothing to do with it now.
# Elemental Affinities are no longer attached to a character. They can be learned and assigned through skills.
# Character alignments no longer influence the availability of job classes.
# The number of characters you can bring into battle is now 12 instead of 10.
# Classes are no longer gender locked. For example, male Valkyries are named Rune Fencers.
# Class levels are no longer tied to each individual character. As a result, you can assign a fresh recruit to a leveled class without having to level that specific character. Individual characters gain skillpoints instead, which are used to learn class skills.
# All the classes have been rebalanced. Some classes that weren't very useful in the original game have been improved. Some classes were renamed or removed for a more balanced class.
# Non-human races now have their own unique class trees. Stat growths are still dependent on that character's class at level up, which occur after a battle is over.
# All story battles are at fixed levels until you beat the game. If your party is unreasonably higher in level than a particular story battle's level cap, the enemy participants of that battle will scale to your highest level member. After you beat the game, all story battles will scale in New Game+.
# Random encounters have been added to the World Map. All random battles scale with to your party's level, but they can be skipped.

btw this localization is going to ownnnnnnn

(http://i.imgur.com/NPAs2.jpg)
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Akala on February 02, 2011, 07:23:42 PM
This and MVC3 in one day. :cream
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 02, 2011, 07:31:12 PM
I WANT NO PART IN YOUR MATSUNO GAME,I PISS ON YOUR COMMON HYPE!

Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2011, 05:54:20 AM
the art is sick, game will deliver
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Positive Touch on February 03, 2011, 10:02:48 AM
god DAMMIT where is a good psp emulator when i need it??? can't find my psp anywhere
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2011, 01:10:07 PM
I fear this is going to bomb and we won't ever get more Matsuno re-releases :(
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2011, 01:16:10 PM
Can't wait until Feb 15th to finally get my damn tarot card set that I got jipped out of on the JPN release!

Anyhow, never got around to playing the import, so I plan on playing the US version instead.  Never played an AoS translated game before.  Looking forward to it!
If there's any game I don't mind double dipping on this year it's tactics freaking ogre & team matsuno.  I want those guys to get more projects.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2011, 01:17:27 PM
Really? Not even Vagrant Story?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2011, 01:19:27 PM
I don't play rpgs in English generally.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2011, 01:23:18 PM
If I were a Matsuno fan who knew the Japa as well as you, I'd wait until the English specifically FOR the AoS translation.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2011, 01:27:53 PM
Why though?  The dialogue style is completely different than what Matsuno wrote and wants it to sound like.  If he wanted to have it sound old-school he'd use old school Japanese, but he generally doesn't.

I mean I agree that considering the settings, AoS's translations add a more appropriate spin and may sound better, but from a purist perspective I prefer the words coming out of the original authors mouth.


But I've played TO before in Japanese with the original game, so I'm all for enjoying it with a different style for TO PSP.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2011, 01:30:24 PM
I wonder what changes they've made to the story at large. In the original, I hate how no matter what choices you do, Vyce will disagree no matter what, whether you're on the lawful, neutral or chaotic path.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 05, 2011, 12:16:30 PM
I don't play rpgs in English generally.
You can't read Japanese tho
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2011, 12:23:46 PM
He's fluent..
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2011, 01:44:44 PM
10 days until Matsuno COMEBACK, hype hype hype!
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 05, 2011, 01:59:34 PM
so...it's another tactics game with an overdramatic subtitle?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Raban on February 05, 2011, 02:19:37 PM
well...the Tactics Ogre series derives its subtitles from Queen songs, so...
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 05, 2011, 02:39:58 PM
so...it's another tactics game with an overdramatic subtitle?

and trumpet,lot of trumpets

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2011, 03:57:46 PM
so...it's another tactics game with an overdramatic subtitle?

All it is is a tribute to a Queen song.

so...it's another tactics game with an overdramatic subtitle?

and trumpet,lot of trumpets

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ




[youtube=560,345]dVQTQ_LeuGI[/youtube]

Magus post hating on something for no particular reason ???
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: MCD on February 05, 2011, 04:00:13 PM
Will it be available on PSN?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2011, 04:02:23 PM
We can only hope
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 05, 2011, 05:12:48 PM
Let us cling together and hope

Seems like a random spot for a queen reference, but...japang
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2011, 05:26:56 PM
I can't wait for Vagrant Story: In The Lap of the Gods
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 05, 2011, 05:59:49 PM
funny fact 1: i never played tactics ogre so i have no idea what the ost sounds like and was just pulling himuro leg :teehee

funny fact 2: i picked a random ost piece and this came out :teehee

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTYNaFFbgYo&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 06, 2011, 01:57:06 PM
not understanding the problem with the trumpets/horns. 

Orchestrated music without cheesy synthesizers and 80s guitar solos is the best rpg music.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 06, 2011, 02:37:19 PM
not understanding the problem with the trumpets/horns. 

Orchestrated music without cheesy synthesizers and 80s guitar solos is the best rpg music.

*ahem*
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=30371.msg1200794#msg1200794
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2011, 04:12:35 PM
None of his tracks sound the same. They sound similar in feel, but not literally the same, but that's his style with Ivalice/Ogre Battle music and even those tracks are diverse.

The two tracks you and me posted are so vastly different you have no foot to stand on.

Then there's this:

[youtube=560,345]BksX_ISV5q0[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]gcATfHYX9Tk[/youtube]
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 06, 2011, 04:41:10 PM
we already had this discussion and i'm not going to have it again so there :spin
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2011, 05:27:23 PM
If you're talking about orchestrated hollywood music, Sakimoto doesn't make orchestrated hollywood music. His music is extremely memorable to me, personally. I like his blend of melody, fine arrangement, and orchestrated sound. It creates a trademark that I can recognize just like how I can recognize Mitsuda or Uematsu just by listening to one track. To say every Sakimoto song sounds the same just sounds ignorant, sorry.

This song from FFT :bow

[youtube=560,345]bqC6-aWh5cs[/youtube]

omfg

[youtube=560,345]fU7BJjrp2xg[/youtube]
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2011, 06:21:30 PM
magus and himuro are both right.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 07, 2011, 08:30:11 PM
ign review

http://psp.ign.com/articles/114/1148122p1.html
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 09, 2011, 04:08:48 PM
http://www.1up.com/reviews/tactics-ogre-review

:bow
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2011, 01:51:53 PM
ENGLISH GAMEPLAY

[youtube=560,345]JlAoz4aczYk[/youtube]

Prologue with english subs

[youtube=560,345]9ITJ9V4byEw[/youtube]
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2011, 02:12:16 PM
PSN RELEASE.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/02/13/playstation-around-the-web-what-we-read-132/#comments

Confirmed for Tuesday, release day.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: demi on February 13, 2011, 02:13:41 PM
I've been playing it for the past few hours. I have it and War of the Lions on for dual pussy stuffing action.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Positive Touch on February 13, 2011, 02:15:30 PM
SOMEBODY RELEASE A GOOD PSP EMULATOR SO I CAN PLAY THIS :maf :maf :maf :maf :maf :maf :maf :maf
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 13, 2011, 02:22:26 PM
I've been playing it for the past few hours. I have it and War of the Lions on for dual pussy stuffing action.

guess i could play it too....?

.... nah too busy hating on mass effect :smug

Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 13, 2011, 02:45:07 PM
PSN RELEASE.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/02/13/playstation-around-the-web-what-we-read-132/#comments

Confirmed for Tuesday, release day.

NUT: BUSTED

(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/227839420.gif)
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2011, 04:04:58 PM
I'm almost considering taking out my pre-order and just getting it from psn.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on February 13, 2011, 05:48:26 PM
How much is it on psn?

Are the load times smaller?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2011, 06:26:22 PM
I would actually buy this on psn if I could be guaranteed that my gamestop pre-order's down payment be returned in full -- in cash. But since Gamestop is ran by bastards, it'll only come out as Gamestop store credit in the end. So I'm kinda stuck with the umd version.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2011, 06:47:56 PM
If you buy on PSN you don't get Tarot Cards though
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 13, 2011, 07:21:55 PM
who needs more lame gaming tchotchkes!
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2011, 07:29:10 PM
If you buy on PSN you don't get Tarot Cards though

Why do you guys care about that shit? Who gives a fuck. If I don't get the psn version I can't play it on ngp which is far more crucial to my enjoyment than some random doo dad I will stuff into my dresser drawer and use as a jizz napkin.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 13, 2011, 07:31:36 PM
himu, let us cling together :tauntaun
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2011, 07:41:13 PM
is it in any way possible to convince the cocks at gamestop to return my tactics ogre reserve (paid in full btw) in cash if I give them a receipt?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: demi on February 13, 2011, 08:01:47 PM
No. You get what you paid in. Would be silly to use a GC then just ask for cash back.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 13, 2011, 08:08:43 PM
is it in any way possible to convince the cocks at gamestop to return my tactics ogre reserve (paid in full btw) in cash if I give them a receipt?

Go in looking like this.  Don't bring the gun though. 

(http://sondizi.com/images/50cent.jpg)
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2011, 08:23:09 PM
I'll drop the reserve and get two psn gift cards then.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on February 13, 2011, 11:13:16 PM
are the load times faster for the psn version?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2011, 11:17:45 PM
Maybe, but almost every psp game in the last year has had an install option to eliminate load times.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on February 14, 2011, 12:02:15 AM
I see.  I will get the retail version then i wouldn't play it on the ngp anyway.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
Why do you guys care about that shit? Who gives a fuck. If I don't get the psn version I can't play it on ngp which is far more crucial to my enjoyment than some random doo dad I will stuff into my dresser drawer and use as a jizz napkin.

You seem pretty sure Sony's got this whole "transfer licenses" shit in hand.  I wish I could be as confident, but, well, PSP Go happened.

I'm just a really big fan of bc so I'm stuck between a rock and a tight place here.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 15, 2011, 10:30:36 AM
WHERE IS THIS, PSN
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
Tonight at 8pm est.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 15, 2011, 10:37:22 AM
I AM NOT AMUSED
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 10:48:52 AM
Decided to go with umd version, but plan on ripping it. Will buy from psn when ngp comes out.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 15, 2011, 12:03:34 PM
uh i didn't want to say,but if you are ripping it anyway couldn't you just have got the :pirate version while waiting?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: demi on February 15, 2011, 12:59:11 PM
His PSP is probably not hacked, since you need latest to go on PSN, dirty poor pirate magus.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
My psp is hacked and is running Prometheus. Haven't dled one single psp game.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2011, 03:01:02 PM
GOT ME SOME TAROT CARDS  :elephant :borys :usavich
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 06:10:59 PM
Got this. It freezes when I try to do the Almorica Castle battle. Currently ripping to desktop. Running cfw.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: demi on February 15, 2011, 06:12:49 PM
Himu, I dont know what FW you are. But on the earlier FWs it freezes @ the second battle. There is a patch for the EUR version.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 06:14:08 PM
I thought I was running the latest cfw?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: demi on February 15, 2011, 06:14:55 PM
That certainly helps in saying what FW you are on.

I have 5.00 M33-6 w/ Prometheus
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 06:18:39 PM
i can't say what fw i'm on because i'm ripping to desktop and it's in usb mode.

that's what i have too.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: demi on February 15, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
WEll for one that's not even close to the latest. Go read GAF's thread for suggestions. But there is a patch for TO EUROPE version that fixes the game. I dont know about US. Maybe the patch would work on US version.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 06:22:16 PM
This has sealed it.

Time to back to ofw.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
This is fucking GAY.

ofw plz
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 15, 2011, 08:11:05 PM
OH GOD CUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: chronovore on February 15, 2011, 08:32:29 PM
I don't play rpgs in English generally.
You can't read Japanese tho
He's fluent..

Yeah, that's something I have trouble understanding: Bepbo is fluent in moonspeak, but became a lawyer. Where is he going to use his fluency other than RPGs?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2011, 10:20:01 PM
Went back to ofw.

Feels so good.

No more hoops.

No more HEY YOU NEED THE LATEST VERSION.

No more crappy psx emulation.

I'm free!

TACTICS OGRE. Take that pirates!
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: demi on February 15, 2011, 10:31:39 PM
> can play Tactics Ogre

> can still enjoy crappy PSX emulation (which its not)

> can still enjoy other PSP games

take that incompetent himuro
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 03:45:29 AM
Game is excellent so far.

New translation is great, story is great as always and the new translation enhances it, the new features and changes bring new life to the game, and it's just a blast.

My only problem so far is the shop system. It is horrible. It doesn't tell the player any useful information. No comparisons to current equipment, or even if you already own the equipment yet. It's just plain cumbersome and when you consider all the changes they made to fine tune this game, it's amazing they somehow managed to overlook this. I spent a good 5-10 minutes shopping, which is far too long to be spent trying to buy imaginary trinkets and armor.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 03:51:57 AM
[youtube=560,345]n0yijU_ZWG8[/youtube]
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 16, 2011, 09:12:13 AM
i tried playing it on my psp and i was able to get over on the first battle without freezing so...

Quote
take that incompetent himuro
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 16, 2011, 10:54:23 AM
game of the fucking forever
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 16, 2011, 11:03:52 AM
i don't really get you guys,i played this up to the third battle while waiting for my next 360 move and it's pretty much like every other SRPG i played... do you guys get all wet when the character says stuff like "WE'LL MURDER YOU TRAITOUROUS SWINE!" and talk "ye olde medieval" all like that?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 16, 2011, 11:48:41 AM
haha, you read the dialogue, what a phag

i get wet for the COLUMNS AND ROWS OF STATS and the RETURN OF DAYS WHERE TERRAIN AND WEATHER AFFECT MOVE/HIT and OMG 12 PEOPLE PER SIDE IN A BATTLE and BIG MAPS OMG OMG OMG
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 11:56:57 AM
People who say they talk like this,"Ye churl, farsooth thee!" in both FFT, TO, VS and FFXII's translations seriously need to take a fucking class in goddamn English.

In any case, there is a STACK OF FUCKING DOZENS OF SKILLS TO LEARN, 12 CHARACTER PARTIES, NO NEED TO GRIND AND THROW STONES, HUGE MAPS AND ACTUAL STRATEGY.

This truly is the game of forever.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 16, 2011, 12:10:56 PM
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People who say they talk like this,"Ye churl, farsooth thee!" in both FFT, TO, VS and FFXII's translations seriously need to take a fucking class in goddamn English.

well "Ye am le italien!" duh :spin

Quote

In any case, there is a STACK OF FUCKING DOZENS OF SKILLS TO LEARN, 12 CHARACTER PARTIES, NO NEED TO GRIND AND THROW STONES, HUGE MAPS AND ACTUAL STRATEGY.

This truly is the game of forever.

bah i still think you guys are exagerating but SRPG aren't really my forte,and 12 character parties sounds like a pain in the ass to manage,if anything i'm happy every battle so far was under 8 character

you know i can really appreciate the fact that you level up the "job" instead of the "character" if there is one thing that i hate on job system is when you divide the jobs for the sake of variety and then one jobs turn more awesome than the other and then you have one awesome character and a really shitty team
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 12:19:57 PM
Magus, I like my rpgs to have a billion variables that let me customize my dudes. Why do you think I like FF8 so much?

Look at this:

(http://i.imgur.com/ILV15.png)

LOOK AT HOW LONG THIS LIST IS.

(http://i.imgur.com/N2TdP.png)

I'm going, going, going.

(http://i.imgur.com/UBvVs.png)

Look at this shop list. :drool

(http://i.imgur.com/GbJpe.png)

Look at all the spells and items!

(http://i.imgur.com/3LU7V.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/TC6s2.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/UJ3Ef.png)

I pop a boner every time I look at this shit.

btw the in game screenshot feature is GENIUS.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 16, 2011, 12:22:49 PM
eeeehhh i see a lot of "equip weapon" skills,a lot of "cast magic" skills,a lot of "resist ailment" spell.....

and why the fuck you need all those attack spell? there is a fireball,a thunderball,a waterball,a iceball,a darkball and a saintball and yet they are all the same thing ???

oh is there a way to speed up the description on top? having to wait for it to scroll is a real pain in the ass
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 12:32:25 PM
It's not equip weapon, it gives an increase in power.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: archie4208 on February 16, 2011, 12:45:38 PM
Damn.  First NGP title I buy.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 16, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
my cleric,wizard and archer keep dying,it wouldn't be so bad if the game wasn't all like "OH NO I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM AWAY FOREVER IN 3 TURNSSSSSS" >:(

EDIT: okay so there is this mission and i tought "let's take it slowly,kill everybody and then go after the boss" and after killing 4 enemies out of 6,extra reinforcement came wasting several minutes of battle

and that's why SRPG sucks
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Rman on February 16, 2011, 01:02:36 PM
Drinky, is there a good, printed guide for this game?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 16, 2011, 02:27:49 PM
hm, haven't checked. i put over 300 hours into the original tactics ogre, so i'm not sure i need a guide yet, but if i see one, i will post!

magus, real srpgs aren't for you. himu knows what it's about: SPREADSHEETS WITH NICE ART AND FONTS. :hyper
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 16, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
and honestly, this is so much better than the original tactics ogre across the board it isn't even funny. the move speed ALONE makes it worth the remake!
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: tiesto on February 16, 2011, 02:30:17 PM
Yeah, I think I'm gonna wait a tad to play this... Vagrant Story has me burnt out on Matsuno for a bit. Though that game definitely needs the TO PSP treatment - faster and more user-friendly with nicer graphics.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 02:46:29 PM
my cleric,wizard and archer keep dying,it wouldn't be so bad if the game wasn't all like "OH NO I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM AWAY FOREVER IN 3 TURNSSSSSS" >:(

EDIT: okay so there is this mission and i tought "let's take it slowly,kill everybody and then go after the boss" and after killing 4 enemies out of 6,extra reinforcement came wasting several minutes of battle

and that's why SRPG sucks

Which battle is this? The battle with the necromancer? You can't decimate every troop on that map unless you have some way to cast excorcism to kill the undead troops once their bones/ghosts have been shattered.

To win that fight, support Canopus as he goes around the map, sniping archers and mages until he has over 100 TP so he can take off over 100+ hp from the boss so the rest of your guys can go in and go for the kill. Create a diversion while doing so.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 02:47:05 PM
Yeah, I think I'm gonna wait a tad to play this... Vagrant Story has me burnt out on Matsuno for a bit. Though that game definitely needs the TO PSP treatment - faster and more user-friendly with nicer graphics.

Minagawa hints that VS is next.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Rman on February 16, 2011, 03:01:29 PM
and honestly, this is so much better than the original tactics ogre across the board it isn't even funny. the move speed ALONE makes it worth the remake!
Yeah, I love SRPGs, but suck so bad at them and learning their systems.  I always go with a guide.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 03:02:36 PM
There is a brady games guide, 300 pgs.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 16, 2011, 03:04:55 PM
if I am bad at video games how far will I get before turning it off and quitting forever
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 03:05:41 PM
Third battle.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 16, 2011, 04:40:55 PM
my cleric,wizard and archer keep dying,it wouldn't be so bad if the game wasn't all like "OH NO I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM AWAY FOREVER IN 3 TURNSSSSSS" >:(

EDIT: okay so there is this mission and i tought "let's take it slowly,kill everybody and then go after the boss" and after killing 4 enemies out of 6,extra reinforcement came wasting several minutes of battle

and that's why SRPG sucks

Which battle is this? The battle with the necromancer? You can't decimate every troop on that map unless you have some way to cast excorcism to kill the undead troops once their bones/ghosts have been shattered.

To win that fight, support Canopus as he goes around the map, sniping archers and mages until he has over 100 TP so he can take off over 100+ hp from the boss so the rest of your guys can go in and go for the kill. Create a diversion while doing so.

yea it's the necromancer and casting exorcism was what i was doing but if you do that the necromancer just summon 4 more undead,it's really lame >:(

what i did was recruiting 3 other soldiers,spend some money to equip them,ignore every undead troop and rushed the guy a-la spanish inqusition

every other battle after that has been pretty easy,but they last forever! damage between characters is barely done!

but anyway have you been recruiting unit? i took a trip to the skill menu and discovered that

- Wizard can recruit lizard unit
- Cleric can recruit angel unit
- Knight can recruit human unit
- Beast Tamer can recruit beast unit

maybe i should recruit some non-human for kick's sake
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Positive Touch on February 16, 2011, 05:14:06 PM
Yeah, I think I'm gonna wait a tad to play this... Vagrant Story has me burnt out on Matsuno for a bit. Though that game definitely needs the TO PSP treatment - faster and more user-friendly with nicer graphics.

Minagawa hints that VS is next.

omg will jo 4 24 hrs straight if true
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2011, 05:21:06 PM
The whole point of the battle, Magus, is to kill the necromancer, not kill all the enemies.

Haven't been recruiting units yet.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 16, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
really? i didn't notice because there was a ghost blowing fireball in my face ::)

anyway after 3 random battle,i recruited a griffon,apparently they are very good at dodging,i tried to recruit a lizardmen too but if the wizard fails he's dead and then you have to restart the battle all over again.... maybe i should see if chariot can be abused when recruiting (by the way with all the bitching i heard about it,you'll think it would be the end of the world but i used it like twice! :lol)

oh and the tamer apparently has also the dragon recruit skill,can you mix & match skill? i guess not.....
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 16, 2011, 07:40:16 PM
look at terrain and weather conditions if you aren't doing shit for damage
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 16, 2011, 07:47:41 PM
i tought those affected only accuracy?

aaaannnnnyway i recruited a lizard but sadly it's just a warrior/berserker with a little higher average strenght but at least it had some nice equipment attached to it and there is always the chance that lizard exclusive class get unlocked later

i tried giving a spin to the gryphon but he got murdered,in his defense he was only level 1 so maybe i should level him up a bit

there are 2 other monster i can recruit,a magic-casting cyclop and a really fucking tough octopus,i tried getting a cyclop but i had no luck,i think trying on the same turn over and over using chariot will give you the same result,i tried recruiting it in different turns but it would still refuse,in short recruiting it's quite a big pain in the ass :-\

EDIT: aaaaaaaaaaand octopus get! i checked the shop and they stocked new item,i bought morning star for everyone and now the damage output i do is way more acceptable... i think i'll get in a few random battle to train him and the gryphon to see if they have any sort of potential since i can't seems to get one of those cyclops,shame because they seems to be much better than those lame star fencer/valkyrie's
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 17, 2011, 10:34:47 AM
i trained the monsters up to level 6 and they really aren't worth all the effort,their stat don't differ that much from human units and their unique skills aren't that good,i caught a cyclop too but ultimately there isn't much difference between him and a star fencer (and besides i just realized that a star fencer can also cast heal while a cyclop can't) i'm using the gryphon anyway since i need a 10th unit that differs from the other 9 and besides he's usefull to have around since he has a good move rate and flies

i finished chapter 1 and i don't understand why but random battles feel like they take forever but story mission are piss easy... shouldn't it be the other way around? ???
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Raban on February 17, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
Tonight, the wife gave me a passionate 15 minute run down of why the SNES version of TO is one of the greatest games ever made.

Sounds like the best wife ever.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 17, 2011, 01:11:30 PM
Tonight, the wife gave me a passionate 15 minute run down of why the SNES version of TO is one of the greatest games ever made.

Sounds like the best wife ever.

being married to himuro doesn't sound that great :-\
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Raban on February 17, 2011, 01:13:21 PM
Well, not that I agree with her, but I'd love to be married to a woman who knew what the fuck a "Tactics Ogre" was, much less have an opinion on the different versions.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 17, 2011, 05:07:24 PM
crafting in this game is the worst,let's say you need to upgrade your baldur hammer,to do so you need to own

1X silver ingot
1X baldur ingot
1X nightshade extract

but wait! to do the baldur ingot you need a silver ingot too,and to make a silver ingot you need to have a silver ore,which you make with inferior ore,but you need 3x silver ore and each time you want to make a silver ore you have to sit trough this short 3 second animation... in short something as simple as upgrading your shit takes waaaaaaay too much menu dickering and at least around 10 "bubbling pot" animation,oh and there is a chance you might fail,because apparently the whole ordeal wasn't still stupid enough

at least the upgrade are decent,you even unlock certain properties for item (an upgraded baldur's hammer for example get a silence effect added)

the last bunch of missions had "reason number 2 to hate SRPG" a dumb NPC who you have to protect with no absolute sense of self-preservation,we are talking like i had trouble healing it because he would keep charging forward before my healer could reach it >:(
and it was an archer! why the fuck would an archer go close to the enemy?

aaaannnnnyywaaayyyy the last bunch of jobs unlocked

spoiler (click to show/hide)
terror knight - like a reverse knight,they have attack instead of defense,cast dark magic instead of holy and their special inflict terror which decrease attack and defense
rogue - can steal stuff,i'm not sure why you would need this guy since a dead enemy drop his stuff anyway? ???
ninja - can dual wield,has a special school of magic that requires you to buy items to be used
dragoon - apparently suited to kill beast and dragons
[close]


Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: chronovore on February 18, 2011, 07:32:42 AM
Tonight, the wife gave me a passionate 15 minute run down of why the SNES version of TO is one of the greatest games ever made.

Sounds like the best wife ever.

She's pretty great. She chose a swell guy, too. But she apparently thinks I'm funny, so there's no real accounting for taste.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on February 18, 2011, 11:06:29 AM
i trained my beast tamer a little and now i have 3 dragons in my party,an earth one,a thunder one and a water one... the fact that each elemental dragon is considered a different class is quite a pain in the ass since i'm trying to keep everybody on even level :-\

i also got a fairie,it's practicaly kinda like a lamer cleric (if the cleric could get more lame that's it)
and lastly

i also trained a ninja,i tought he would kick ass but he really doesn't deal much more damage than my hammer wielding warriors... but he's also 3 level behind
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Post by: magus on February 18, 2011, 03:08:57 PM
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/SS_0001.png?t=1298059684)

GO GO DRAGON RANGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
GO GO DRAGON RANGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

YOU SUCK AT LEVEL ONE BUT MAYBE YOU WILL BE DECENT AT LEVEL TENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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Post by: magus on February 19, 2011, 12:41:40 PM
i brought every dragon to level 7,their defense is pretty high (especialy ranged defense,they take no damage at all from arrows) but they get afflicted by status ailment pretty easily (which i guess explains why every dragon CPU has "Resist Charm" in his skillset) they don't deal much damage ultimately

if you decide to get a dragon,i would pick a water one or a fire one,each dragon has a unique breath skills which inflict a different status ailment,the fire one inflict ATK down and the water one DEF down while the other just screw up accuracy/avoid rate,the water one can also walk on water (like the octopus or the rune fencer class) and the fire one can walk on lava (and is the only unit so far able to do so)

whatever happened to himuro? it's all marvel vs capcom 3 fault uh? :-\
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Post by: magus on February 20, 2011, 11:29:23 AM
i'm at chapter 3 and personaly i'm starting to dislike the game for the single reason i dislike every SRPG,it just feels like i'm doing the same thing over and over and over,and i couldn't care less about the plot so in short chance are you are going to find me in the dragon quest 6 thread
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 20, 2011, 01:37:19 PM
pussy, perhaps nintendo dogs would be more your style

those dora games aren't gonna explore themselves, ese
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Post by: Rman on February 20, 2011, 04:06:45 PM
Magus, is there any game you like?  You're the lovable cynical gamer at Evilbore, which is quite an accomplishment.
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Post by: magus on February 20, 2011, 04:17:12 PM
oh there are plenty of games i like,i did a stalwart defense of FFXIII a while ago
i just like all the wrong ones :'(

but anyway if you like final fantasy tactics and the like by all mean pick this up because it's identical to it,up to the character that make up the plot but SRPG aren't just my thing...
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Post by: demi on February 20, 2011, 05:25:45 PM
SRPG with characters above the age of 6...
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Post by: magus on February 20, 2011, 07:11:45 PM
but she's really 600! </weeaboo>
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Post by: Oblivion on February 20, 2011, 11:36:11 PM
those dora games aren't gonna explore themselves, ese

:rofl

Mind if I steal dat, yo?
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Post by: Himu on March 03, 2011, 01:20:50 PM
this game truly is game of the year. only mvc3 can compete.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2011, 02:14:40 PM
damn straight
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Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 08:29:27 AM
I just saved Xapan and I'm on my way back to Almorica.

Chapter 2L.

How the fuck do I get dragons? I have fought one dragon so far. Also I want octpuses and cyclopses! I have beast tamer class (Denam). Will that let me get the cyclops and stuff like that?

I've got a hawkman, and a wonderful lizardman berserker.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 08:33:47 AM
OH HEY

GAMETRAILERS FINALLY REVIEWED GAME OF THE YEAR.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-tactics-ogre/711349

homos
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Post by: magus on March 06, 2011, 08:38:29 AM
I just saved Xapan and I'm on my way back to Almorica.

Chapter 2L.

How the fuck do I get dragons? I have fought one dragon so far. Also I want octpuses and cyclopses! I have beast tamer class (Denam). Will that let me get the cyclops and stuff like that?

I've got a hawkman, and a wonderful lizardman berserker.

level 7 beastmaster
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 08:40:43 AM
FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

makes me wanna go back and redo that xapan battle almost but I was concentrating on HAULIN' ASS so I could save Xapan. I need to make a generic a beast master so I can make Denam a knight or something, though I really liked him as a warrior.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on March 06, 2011, 08:42:10 AM
why? to recruit the dragon? you'll encounter lots of them later,no need to hurry
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Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 08:42:30 AM
No. Cyclops.
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Post by: magus on March 06, 2011, 08:45:03 AM
cyclops are easy to encounter too,there is a battle in the plain where you can encounter gryphons,octopus and cyclops

and besides they are kinda sucky magic caster/warrior hybrid like the rune fencers
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Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 08:46:42 AM
rune fencer is a really underrated class. It has its uses and it's not as bad as people think. I think in terms of early game, it's quite useful to be able to get in on front line action while casting the occasional spell.

also I'm totally considering making canopus and my other hawkman learn some magic.Sometimes their bows just don't deal out good damage and they could use some back up power.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on March 06, 2011, 09:29:01 PM
How do you guys kill necromancer nybbas? the 4th fight from the start of the game?  He keeps respawning shit on me and hitting me very hard.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 07, 2011, 12:14:14 AM
How do you guys kill necromancer nybbas? the 4th fight from the start of the game?  He keeps respawning shit on me and hitting me very hard.

fly canopus at him, shoot his ass
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Post by: Himu on March 07, 2011, 12:41:35 AM
How do you guys kill necromancer nybbas? the 4th fight from the start of the game?  He keeps respawning shit on me and hitting me very hard.

Since you say "4th fight", there's your problem. Fighting that battle right at the beginning is a fool's errand. Fighting those guys at levels 3-4 is more than tough, it's almost impossible seeing as how most of those forces are levels 5-6. Go do the missions up north and when you're assigned to the missions to the west, go do the necromancer fight. Your party should be around levels 5-6, give or take, and it will be 1000x easier.

Bring an archer alongside Canopus, learn the skills that enhances shots. It takes 40 tp points in battle to use. It's called tremendous shot.

Use that archer, bring at least two clerics, a few exorcism scrolls to exorcise the undead units. Bring at least 10-11 for this fight. Sure you could use the exorcise magic, but that requires a lot of mp at this point and you'll be using cure about every turn with your cleric's. Doing this frees up turns and allows people who otherwise can't use Exorcise to kill the undead units while your cleric's are doing the big damage. Use heal on those mother fuckers because heal hits them like a truck.

At the beginning of the battle don't move any of your troops. Let, Vyce take some heat while you charge mp and tp. Take on the undead units one unit at a time and then exorcise and support Canopus as he climbs the upper reaches of the castle. He will respawn units, but don't worry about them. They're not threatening aside from the mend leafs they give him for extra healing. Just take it slowly, pressing one bit at a time.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 07, 2011, 01:10:41 AM
I beat it.  I had to start again.  I had like 4 lvl 4 clerics that fight.  But in the end i got that caponus guy to do his 100 tp ranged skill.  And then do a coupel of hits.  Everyone was one the groudn except a couple. :lol
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Post by: Himu on March 07, 2011, 01:14:14 AM
that fight is a bitch at lv 4

gj
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Post by: Damian79 on March 07, 2011, 01:29:30 AM
Very satisfying depite it being frustrating.  Thanks.   :spin
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Post by: Damian79 on March 08, 2011, 12:38:28 AM
I fucked up and have to start all over.  I made my main a beast tamer and the game forces me into a 1v1 fight.  I dont think i can win this :(.
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Post by: Himu on March 08, 2011, 01:12:48 AM
where
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on March 08, 2011, 03:27:33 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Its the one where you fight vyse, in the castle
[close]

I dont have any items or anything and i cant get out and i saved it inside the castle or whatever.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on March 08, 2011, 03:31:31 AM
He is like lvl 11 and i am lvl 10.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on March 08, 2011, 04:34:11 AM
I cheesed it with the knight class and phalanx and divine magic lol.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 11, 2011, 07:53:40 PM
I'm like five battles in and really liking it, but is there really no way to return to the title screen and start over from a battle?
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Post by: magus on March 11, 2011, 07:56:23 PM
i'm pretty sure there is a "return to title screen" option if you press start,after that you can just load your last save? ???
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 07:56:40 PM
Uh...press start, bottom option.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 11, 2011, 08:01:51 PM
Haha woops I was hitting select. Dunno why select is above start.

Anything I should know before I get in deep? I'm afraid I'm going to dump my skill points or whatever into a bunch of useless shit and be gimped for half the game
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Post by: TEEEPO on March 11, 2011, 08:10:46 PM
so when does this game become challenging?
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
You probably went the chaos path, it seems like it is the easier path.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 08:29:16 PM
Haha woops I was hitting select. Dunno why select is above start.

Anything I should know before I get in deep? I'm afraid I'm going to dump my skill points or whatever into a bunch of useless shit and be gimped for half the game

In the first half of the game, most of your enemies will be humans. Learn anatomy, which increases damage dealt towards humans.

Make your archers learn tremendous strike asap. Also, Trajectory.

Make your knights learn things like rampart aura and fortify. With these skills your knights can be total tanks. Other physical based classes like warrior, knight, archer;etc. also get boosts from Strengthen +1 or whatever skills. This plus anatomy kills fuckers. Magic boost for your mages as well.

Split magic use between your mages. Dark Magic is the best offense magic, but it's useful to concentrate on specific magics for specific characters. Like, one of my mages can use fire, dark, and earth magic. The other can use lightning, air, and water and ice.

Teach your rune fencers and vartans and archers (if possible) some magic. At early game it gets some good use because sometimes physical damage may not do much but you'll have magic on the side. This is especially useful with Canopus and other Vartans.

Make your cleric and rune fencer learn recruit. Good for recruiting humans and hawkmen, which is great in combination with Canopus. Even knights can use basic divince (healing) magic, which can help you in a bind.

Different classes have different recruitment skills. Wizards for example have Coax, which allows lizardmen to join you.

Save your TP and get what you feel is best for that class. It's good to level up specific skills. For example, by using your Rune Fencer a lot, you can level up the spear skill. So when you get a dragoon, you can change the RF to one and already have an advantage in spear use.

Each class has special skills that cost 200, 300, 400 or more TP, which is why you save.

Have at least two clerics, maybe two or three archers (including a few hawkmen), two mages. Lizardmen are BEASTS (especially berserkers), try to get one or two before chapter 1 end.

But for the most part, don't worry about class. Even Warrior is good where I'm at.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2011, 08:48:19 PM
I dont understand why even bother with recruiting new characters.  You can only have up to 12 max characters in a given battle right?

Also what is the point of splitting up mages to do different attack types other than to get cc spells like sleep.  I much rather keep castign the same attack spell to get the bonus damage.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 08:50:52 PM
Because by recruiting a lizardman berserker or an enemy terror knight now I too can be a berserker or terror knight ??? Also, lizardmen WRECK EVERYTHING.

I use two mages because it means more damage dealt with magic -- 2 > 1 -- and also because the only to USE magic is to have the magic skill equipped. And new skill slots are limited and expensive.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2011, 08:54:14 PM
IMO terror knights are terrible but lizardmen are awesome though.  Tanks that deal damage?  Yes please.  But that becomes wortless once you get the ninja class.  They are ownage to a whole new level.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 08:59:05 PM
I find terror knights are useful. They're like knights except have a bigger emphasis on offense as opposed to defense.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2011, 09:11:42 PM
I dunno.  Their damage threshold seems kinda low.  I can see how they do damage but ti seems like they have the equivalent of leather armor for defense.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
threaten owns, though
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Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2011, 09:23:51 PM
I have to say though, one thing i dont like about the game is the level system.  You are better off using multiple of the same class rather than all different ones becuas eyou ge tbonus exp for having multiple of the same class.  THey souldnt have done that.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 09:27:08 PM
I really like it. Less emphasis on stone throwing, and "grinding" characters out ain't too bad. I can manage low level characters in story fights.

And it gives that classic Tactics Ogre feel to it. I like how in the original LUCT it felt like your characters progressed even if you did change classes. It wasn't like Disgaea or FFT where when you change classes it feels like they're weak. In LUCT original and remake I feel like my guys progress even if I change classes.

Having class levels enhances this. I can change my Denam to a knight and whether he's been a knight or not, with no prior experience, he's instantly the level of my main knight. I like that.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2011, 09:34:35 PM
I think you missed my point.  I was referring to the bonus you get for having multiple of the same class.  They shouldn't have added that.  If they didnt i would have a more diverse team.
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 09:37:13 PM
I rarely use that bonus aside for my archers.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2011, 09:42:49 PM
Funny story, i dont have a single archer on my team.   And is it me or doesnt crossbows suck for some reason?  Low damage, will hit things in its way etc etc.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 09:46:55 PM
Crossbows are ass. It's why I"m contemplating switching Canopus to archer, but by doing that he'll have a lower move stat.

And I love my archers. My hawkman archer can fly on roofs and snipe fuckers with tremendous strike like mupepe's snake does a girl's donut hole.
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Post by: magus on March 12, 2011, 06:13:11 AM
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I really like it. Less emphasis on stone throwing, and "grinding" characters out ain't too bad.

you know himu i keep hearing about how "there is no grinding here!" but the truth is that without grinding it's impossible to introduce any new job in your party which is incredibly stupid... they should have let class start at the level you recruit them "you got a level 12 terror knight? WHOOPS NOW HE'S LEVEL 1! HAVE FUN HAVING A USELESS GUY HANGING AROUND!"
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Post by: Damian79 on March 12, 2011, 08:21:02 AM
Yeah that part sucks.  I once had 3 lvl 1 ninjas.  NOT FUN.
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Post by: MoxManiac on March 12, 2011, 09:44:05 AM
Funny story, i dont have a single archer on my team.   And is it me or doesnt crossbows suck for some reason?  Low damage, will hit things in its way etc etc.

Use two handed bows. They are amazing. Super insane reach, and line of sight is usually generous too (i.e. you won't have to worry about your allies blocking shots like they do for magic)
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Post by: Bebpo on March 20, 2011, 12:25:17 AM
I just started playing this and it feels weird that everything is so low damage so far (just a few maps in).  Been too long since I played the original so I don't remember, is it normal throughout the game for it to take 3-5 attacks on a character to kill them?  I'm doing like 15-30 damage attacks on guys with 120hp.  Also is it normal for there to be lots of blocking attacks on both sides?

Just feels weird because I've been playing a lot of SRW and am playing Disgaea4 and in those games grunts die in 1 hit and hardly anyone blocks so you blow through the maps quickly by slicing up dudes in 1-2 hits and continuing on forward.
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Post by: magus on March 20, 2011, 08:24:17 AM
it gets better when you have better equipment,my warriors equipped with hammer could kill most guys in 2 hits assuming both hits... hit

still too slooooooooooooooooooooooow
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Post by: Shaka Khan on March 20, 2011, 08:25:48 AM
I need to play this. What's the latest reliable CFW released?
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 21, 2011, 12:00:05 AM
^ http://wololo.net/wagic/cfw-for-dummies-tn-hen-6-20-or-6-35-cfw-pro-which-one-is-better/

You know, I wouldn't have a problem with how class changing works in this game if there weren't level requirements for weapons and armor. So dumb

I'm also really favoring magic and ranged damage since it seems like every battle ends up being one big clusterfuck of gridlocked melee units.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 22, 2011, 03:56:10 AM
This game is as amazing as I remembered it.  About 10 hours in now, somewhere in chapter 2.  The gameplay is sooooooooo good and the story/music/art is amazing as it always was.  I went chaos route when I played the ps1 version a decade ago, so I'm going law route this time and it feels mainly fresh.  Love all the optional stuff like the rumors that lead to optional maps.  Character making is so satisfying with all the skills/classes/equipment.  While Disgaea 4 is a solid srpg, playing both concurrently, TO is just leagues better.  But then it's not really fair comparing the best srpg ever made with other stuff :X  Might put D4 on hold and just focus on marathoning TO.  It's really hard to put TO down, I can play it all day.
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Post by: Shaka Khan on March 22, 2011, 07:45:16 AM
I'm a couple of hours in myself (first time TO player) and every element in this game feels solid, I'm really digging it. The only niggling issue I have so far is that I can't see stat changes when I'm about to buy equipment, but that's probably due to how big my party is going to be later in the game, so keeping track would be a hassle.

About the in-battle tarot cards: is there a limit to how many times I can use it? sometimes it feels like cheating!
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 22, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
I haven't even had to use the tarot cards you pick up because the chariot tarot is so crazy imba. I guess it's good in that you don't waste hours of your life replaying the same battle over and over and over because of RNG, but it's still way too easy to abuse

How much does the whole chaos/law thing affect the game? Like is it two totally different storylines you're picking from? I went chaos
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Post by: Shaka Khan on March 22, 2011, 09:27:03 AM
Yeah sorry, I meant the chariot card (L button).
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 22, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
Wait a second, you can save multiple quicksaves which don't get erased once loaded? This game is so forgiving.
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Post by: TEEEPO on March 22, 2011, 11:24:02 AM
This game is as amazing as I remembered it.  About 10 hours in now, somewhere in chapter 2.  The gameplay is sooooooooo good and the story/music/art is amazing as it always was.  I went chaos route when I played the ps1 version a decade ago, so I'm going law route this time and it feels mainly fresh.  Love all the optional stuff like the rumors that lead to optional maps.  Character making is so satisfying with all the skills/classes/equipment.  While Disgaea 4 is a solid srpg, playing both concurrently, TO is just leagues better.  But then it's not really fair comparing the best srpg ever made with other stuff :X  Might put D4 on hold and just focus on marathoning TO.  It's really hard to put TO down, I can play it all day.

what rumors  ???
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on March 22, 2011, 01:41:46 PM
I meant the "talk" section.  Which are basically rumors/talk of the town.  If you read certain ones they unlock additional scenarios you can follow up on.

Wait a second, you can save multiple quicksaves which don't get erased once loaded? This game is so forgiving.

Yeah, but why would you take the time to save, quit to title, reload when you can just hit L :P  Chariot system is awesome because it removes the need to quicksave abusing.  I already miss the chariot system in other srpgs when I accidently hit the wrong button and do something stupid (you wouldn't believe the amount of times in TO I've healed myself when I wanted to heal someone else, or shot an arrow at a rock because I hit the button before I was on the target tile).  I'm always in a hurry when I play srpgs so I make dumb unintentional mistakes and Chariot saves me from them.
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Post by: magus on March 22, 2011, 05:09:36 PM
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How much does the whole chaos/law thing affect the game? Like is it two totally different storylines you're picking from? I went chaos

yea it should be like that
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on March 22, 2011, 07:28:23 PM
magus, which route did you go?  I'm guessing everyone goes Chaos the first time, though as fucked up as it is, Law is apparently the more happy route
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on March 22, 2011, 08:37:58 PM
chaos
i liked the whole "DEFY EVERYONE" angle of it
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on March 25, 2011, 07:40:59 PM
I dunno how I feel about the class system.

Pros:
It gives you more variety/options to change on the fly within your leveled classes without much detriment.  If there's a map full of dragoons you can flip an entire cast into dragoons and take them out and then switch back.  If you feel you need a certain job in your party you can throw one easily.

Cons:
The problem is that this only works for the job classes around your base team level.  For all 50 other job classes, getting them to that base level is a time consuming pain in the ass.  If you go the recruiting method and keep recruiting them and letting them share in the end battle xp, it'll still take like 10 battles doing this because xp curves off after the initial map or two.  If you bring them into battle to get xp, they are useless and can't do anything and just hide in the back and rob you of a unit for 10 battles until they are up with everyone else. 

I spent the whole afternoon getting the Dragoon class up to the general level of the rest of my party.  And that's just ONE job in a game that has dozens upon dozens.  The way the class system works basically makes you not want to use new job classes, which is lame.  But it does make you want to switch jobs around between your leveled classes.  It's like they made a job system that is half-awesome and then half sucks. 

And yeah I think if the equipment didn't have level requirements it would have helped since with up to date weapons/armor they at least might be able to hold their own after a couple of maps.


You know, I remember back in the day when games with job classes let you change jobs and keep your current level, so you could experiment between jobs all the time with no detriment.  Give them all a try.  These days I swear gaming has regressed and every single game with jobs has some distinguished mentally-challenged system that makes you grind for 5 hours everytime you want to try a new job :\
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 25, 2011, 10:15:12 PM
What are you talking about? Even in games like FF5 you have to start all over and grind a bit. In FFT you do the same thing.

Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 25, 2011, 11:26:50 PM
You don't have to grind in FF5, since job level mostly just determines which abilities you can use from other classes. Same with the weapon system in FF9. Pretty ingenious system really.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on March 26, 2011, 04:33:12 AM
Plus FFX-2 you don't have to grind iirc.  There are just as many job class rpg/srpgs that let you switch jobs freely without any detriment as there are ones that boot you back to lvl.1

Oh well, just hit ch.3 neutral at about 20 hours now.  Leveled the Dragoon, Terror Knight, Ninja, and Beast Tamer while doing the last half of ch.2.  So at least I have a good 10 or so available jobs.  Might be all I need for the rest of the game if I keep them all around the same levels.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Himu on March 26, 2011, 10:04:02 AM
Meh. It's an srpg. Name one srpg that doesn't require SOME grinding. Disgaea is all about grinding. FFT handles new characters and jobs similarly, though there's advantages like being able to use other jobs skills. About every srpg I've played of note that features class changes has grinding of some sort and it's not anything new. Either way, I got most of my guys up to level in a mere 3 or so battles and don't see WBA the problem is aside from the fact you expect an srpg to cater to you in this manner.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: magus on March 26, 2011, 10:19:44 AM
no no no you can't lump disgaea with this

in disgaea character makes jumps of 100 levels,weapons gets boost big enough to make them thrice of powerfull,and this happens in blazing speed,that jump of 100 levels happens in a single attack,not battle,ATTACK! basicaly you turn your godly unit into more godly unit and that's why disgaea rocks

where in tactics ogre you have a useless guy getting slightly useless after a 20 minute battle,after 2 hours,maybe there is a slight chance he will be actualy a usefull addition (probably as long as he can wield an hammer)

Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 26, 2011, 11:26:44 AM
Suckers. I'm personally switching between 2x and 4x EXP whenever I want to level up an all-new party/recruits.

12 hours in and I think this is a serious contender for GOTY and probably one of my favorite SRPGs of all time. If I look harder I'll definitely find a few niggling issues, but the game does so many things right that I can't help but overlook them.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2011, 09:59:27 PM
I'm in the last chapter now and it's all pretty cool stuff, but getting story characters late in the game seems counterproductive.  Even if you switch them into a class that's at a high level, the fact story characters come with ZERO SP and like 3-4 skills is a huuuuuge detriment.  My common no-name dudes have like 10-12 skills and rank 3/4 weapons.  That's thousands of SP.  At the end of the battle these new story characters get like 100 SP per battle.  It's not the XP, but unless I'm missing something there's no way to grind their SP really quickly to catch them up on skills.

I'm the kind of srpg player that likes to include every story character in his party so I can see all the dialogue exchanges in any map, plus they usually have better stats than no-name recruits.  But here it seems like using late game story characters is like playing with a handicap since they just aren't as good as your no-names you've been building up the whole game.  It's one thing if you get the story character early enough that SP isn't a huuge deal, but by 30 hours in when everyone has tons of SP stat buffing and skills, they seem sucky. 

And then I got these two Xenobia white knight guys lvl.3 that I'm not really sure what to do with.  I could spend a couple of hours and level them, but I already have a party of competent tank/healer knights and I made Vyce a knight soooo what is the benefit of grinding them to usefulness besides having more story characters in your party.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 29, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
20 hours in

Yeah, I still say the leveling system is crap, and all the ghey, gussied up dialogue is really starting to wear on me, but pretty much everything else is A++++. I even bought a legit copy so I don't have to feel bad about pirating it

Dunno why I felt the need to make a general praise post since it seems like the only people reading this thread are already playing. Oh well
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: demi on March 29, 2011, 08:34:20 PM
Would you say FFT or Tactics Ogre is worth my hard earned time in 2011
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 29, 2011, 09:39:16 PM
Tactics Ogre unless you've only played FFT like once
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 10:07:04 PM
Would you say FFT or Tactics Ogre is worth my hard earned time in 2011

Have you played Tactics Ogre before?

Actually it doesn't matter.  Unless you've played it within the last 3 years and you remember every little part of it, TO is worth every second of your time.


Don't get me wrong.  The game has it's flaws.  Back in the day I'd give the original TO a 10/10 when it first came.  It's the best srpg I've ever played.  This PSP version is multiple times better than the original, but I'd give it a 9/10 by today's standards.  It has A LOT of really good things.  In the writing, the non-linear branching, the gameplay systems, the map designs.  Lots and lots of great to genius stuff in there.  It also has some things that make you go "huh" and are stumbles in the game/plot design.  Like for one thing, the game has the most obscure hidden shit of any game you will play in the last decade.  If you don't want to miss stuff you have to play with a guide in front of your face.  Though I'd recommend on the first time to not use one and just not care about missing all the optional recruitable characters. 

But yeah, despite some hiccups, it's still one of the best srpgs on the market by today's standards.  While people exaggerate about there being an insane amount of jobs to choose your party from (I'm in the last 5-10 hours and there's maybe 20 real classes and a lot of them are similar), the game still has good variety in letting you assemble many different types of succesful parties.  It's a lot of fun making your own personal crew that's different from everyone else you know who played the game and going to town on the enemies, creating your own strategies with your job types. 

The maps are a lot of fun.  Probably more fun than any other srpg I know.  They have just that right amount of challenge that every fight feels like an unique battle and a good challenge to overcome through strategy.  The chariot (aka redo system) keeps it from being too aggravating.  The only thing I don't like about the maps is a lot of classes have really shitty movement so it will take them the entire battle to get to the enemies.  Which is why sometimes you gotta ditch the slow movers and make parties of ninjas and flying dudes :P

It's really addicting too.  I'm over 30 hours and I don't feel like I've put that time in at all.  The main game is about 35-45 hours for one route and then there apparently is a TON of post-game content, plus the ability to rewind time like Radiant Historia and redo branch decisions and go down other routes.  So potential if you have no other games to play and you really like it, you could put 100 hours in.  I'll probably bail when I finish the main plot and do a little post-game since I have other stuff I wanna play.  But the content amount is good.

The story is pretty neat and unless you hate political backstabbing medieval tales, you'll enjoy it. 
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
I tried doing the recruit ___ person in ch.4 where you fight lvl.21 templar knights with two lvl.22 boss leaders.

I thought with my lvl.20 party with lvl.23 denam + hobyrim ninja pair I'd be fine.

I was wrong:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/TO01.jpg)

The combination of a huge amount of knight walls blocking all movement with rampart aura + non-stop healers healing them + archers and mages being little bitches from back = FUCKAGHAGHAH as seen above.

The worst was that as seen in that picture they kept fucking BINDING my denam who was my main attacker and so he couldn't move for like 3-5 full turns and was useless.  I don't have any items/spell scrolls that cure it.  So 1 of my 2 best attackers was taken out of the picture and they kept healing themselves and blasting me with finishing moves from a distance while Hobyrim caught up to them.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/TO02.jpg)

In the end after like 80 mins of fighting, I had 3 characters left, what you don't see in that pic is my archer was also flashing red 10hp along with 10hp denam and full HP Hobyrim in the south.  I took out their templar but he took out my archer first.  So it was my flashing Denam & Hobyrim ninja attack squad left against the remaining full HP enemy leader.  Thankfully they are killer damage attackers with double attack using crafted ninja swords and steelstance to knock down damage.  Finally won after like 90 mins. 

HARD BATTLE
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Bebpo on April 02, 2011, 01:39:12 AM
Cleared the main story ~43 hours.  The last boss was so Matsuno.  Only in a Matsuno game will your characters who are doing fine in the endgame suddenly do 1 damage against the final boss  :lol  Out of my 12 person party, 3 characters could do about 40-50 damage, the other nine did 1 damage.  At least I had 3 damage dealers for the fight.  That could've been really bad with fewer.  Party was about lvl.24/25/26, so I didn't feel overleveled for the final bosses, nor underleveled, but just about right where there was a good challenge but it was doable.

Love how much post-game content there is.  Not only all the CODA post-game chapters, but going back in time and doing all the side stuff, recruiting, branches you missed.  Great stuff.  Will keep playing this when I have handheld time until SRW Z2 comes out later in the month.

Overall the game was just as amazing as I remembered it to be.  Fantastic story, fantastic gameplay.  At the end of the day, I think the class & SP systems are wonky and slightly distinguished mentally-challenged and not well thought out, but your learn to deal with them and work around their flaws and the actual battles are pure srpg gold.  Since I like using all story characters, my endgame solution to dealing with all these story characters arriving in lvl.1-5 classes with 0 SP and 30 hours behind everyone else was just to MAKE EVERY STORY CHARACTER A NINJA. 
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Hobyrim = Ninja, Vyce = Ninja, Xaban = Ninja, Ozma = Ninja  :lol
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I would have liked to have a more varied party, but I wasn't in the mood for the extra grinding to make them useful in their own classes.  In the end I think I had like 5 or 6 ninjas with double attack, jump + 1, move + 1, counter attack II, strengthen II, fortify II, steelstance who'd rush the map right at the start and jump around everywhere taking out enemies in 1 attack each and then going into steelstance.  Then 1 or 2 archers in the back using temendous shot and killing healers and mages from a distance + Canopus flying around with a bowgun doing the same.  Then a couple white knights healing and blocking and 1 mage buffing and doing indirect high damage spells from a distance.

My favorite part of the last dungeon was after getting sick of all the fucking petrifying spamming I turned around and tried using MY petrify spell with my mage and oh man, nothing like 100% petrify rates :D  I'd stone half the templars and then kill the rest easily and go back and take my time destroying all the stone ones.  It was gloriously satisfying. 
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Verdigris Murder on February 17, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Just got sucked back into this. 200 plus hours, and now am on level 37 of Palace of the Dead.
I have a Warlock, but tbh he's mostly useful for Paradigm Shift. Does he actually get good, because his area spells seem to do nowt with undead folk.

Still. This damn game. It keeps giving.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 17, 2013, 06:16:43 PM
PSVita GOTY
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Verdigris Murder on February 17, 2013, 06:18:25 PM
Yeah. It's basically one of the greatest. Better than The Golden easily.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: mjemirzian on February 17, 2013, 08:03:32 PM
I don't like Tactics Ogre, but I like tactics games for their strategy, not sandbox grinding.
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: mjemirzian on February 17, 2013, 08:26:14 PM
Depends on his definition of grinding. I'd start by naming some SRPGs that forbid grinding entirely. One I can think of right now is Elven Legacy for PC. It has no free battles, no repeating battles, time limits on every stage, and a tough scoring system. Obviously it can't require grinding if you're not allowed to grind in the first place.

Btw I beat Tactics Ogre PSP while fleeing from every random encounter (aka no grinding).
Title: Re: TACTICS OGRE LET US CLING TOGETHER PSP AKA GAME OF THE YEAR
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 17, 2013, 08:27:50 PM
Who doesn't love to grind. (http://i.imgur.com/BDMvK.gif)