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Title: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 12:38:15 PM
Nintendo stuff is happening right now

Netflix will eventually stream 3D trailers and other videos to the 3DS.  That's nice. nvm, I think Netflix is regular, then Nintendo will have its own service to stream 3D trailers/videos.

3D video recording too, maybe, possibly, who knows.

3DS Virtual Console includes Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Game Gear, and Turbo Graphix.

Online stuff is all in May (web browser, other stuff)

New 3D Mario from the Galaxy people.  Logo has the Tanooki tail from SMB3.
(http://imgur.com/4hL4a.jpg)

There was a new Zelda Skyward Zelda trailer too.  Main takeaway was showing the villain or another character or something.  Looked nice.
[youtube=560,345]m0xl-SFyG9Q[/youtube]  (http://i.imgur.com/Cp1nn.jpg) (< Not a photoshop.  really.)

haha they're playing muse.  what dorks!

if you care to rewatch this, it's streaming again: http://gdc2011.nintendo.com/  (don't bother)
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 02, 2011, 12:52:00 PM
Hope we get 2D Mario too... not crazy about 3D Mario.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 12:53:22 PM
Mario for 3DS, yeah yeahhhhhh

and zelda looks great
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: maxy on March 02, 2011, 12:53:45 PM
Hope we get 2D Mario too... not crazy about 3D Mario.

2D Mario on 3DS...not possible
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 12:55:21 PM
What else is scheduled for GDC?

more PSP2 stuff

saints row 3 stuff tomorrow, I think.  some other stuff.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
there should also be arkham city stuff happening as well
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 01:00:23 PM
:rofl Iwata talkin mad shit
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 02, 2011, 01:02:03 PM
i would be more excited if galaxy 2 wasn't so blah......

Quote
Nintendo wants to make the impossible possible through various methods of innovation.

by announcing yet another mario game! good job nintendo!  :dur
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 01:02:28 PM
i would be more excited if galaxy 2 wasn't so blah......



good christ you are the worst poster ever
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 02, 2011, 01:04:01 PM
i tought that was methodis? ???
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: maxy on March 02, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
smartphones are hitting hard,i see

There will always be a place for "high value" games,but they better make sure that those games have high value

Nintendo is just scared that expensive shovelware will have hard time selling
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: iconoclast on March 02, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
If it's more like Mario 64 (the only good 3D Mario) I'll be interested in it.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 02, 2011, 01:09:53 PM
Iwata is trollin apps while I play Tiny Wings. U mad
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 01:13:46 PM
If it's more like Mario 64 (the only good 3D Mario) I'll be interested in it.

ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
Iwata is trollin apps while I play Tiny Wings. U mad

But Sho Nuff, Iwata told me that the 3DS offers unique experiences you can't get on smartphones!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
like the opportunity to spend $39.99 on a game instead of $0.99. :smug looks like Nintendo's done it again! :zelda
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Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 02, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
:piss Smartphone apps :piss2

Need to d/l the stream and watch for myself, but I fully support trolling shitty cellphone games. At least 3DS has a real control scheme.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 02, 2011, 01:22:24 PM
that zelda villain looks so fabulous :-*
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Trent Dole on March 02, 2011, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: SA
They knocked on lazy/maximum profit publishing
What you mean like charging $200 for overclocked last gen hardware in 2011 and $50 for 'software' for the fucking thing? :smug
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 01:25:57 PM
:piss Smartphone apps :piss2

Need to d/l the stream and watch for myself, but I fully support trolling shitty cellphone games. At least 3DS has a real control scheme.

:piss ing on the App Store is pretty hilarious considering Nintendo pretty much invented small killer-all filler as a viable ecosystem
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: maxy on March 02, 2011, 01:49:37 PM
iPad 2 announced,launching on the same day as 3DS(UK)

 :lol

U mad,Iwata?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Oblivion on March 02, 2011, 01:51:59 PM
Skyward Sword looks vastly improved.

EB fucking destroyed. :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Oblivion on March 02, 2011, 01:55:53 PM
Skyward Sword looks like a 3d Zelda, so pass.

:(


Also, too:

(http://i.imgur.com/sZRrI.jpg)

:o
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 02:02:18 PM
Zelda OoT 3DS is coming out on June 7th. 

(http://i.imgur.com/hnNFH.jpg)

yep
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 02:03:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sZRrI.jpg)

:o

Hard to believe an N64 game could look so good - what filters are you using?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 02:03:55 PM
Zelda OoT 3DS is coming out on June 7th. 

(http://i.imgur.com/hnNFH.jpg)

yep

(http://gamersleak.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/infinity_blade.jpg)

Hmm.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: maxy on March 02, 2011, 02:04:08 PM
Only Nintendo can make people excited about late 1990s graphics
 :bow2
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 02:04:33 PM
Skyward Sword looks like a 3d Zelda, so pass.

:(


Also, too:

(http://i.imgur.com/sZRrI.jpg)

:o

I can hear demi opening his wallet as we speak.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Oblivion on March 02, 2011, 02:05:01 PM
Not sure what you're trying to say with that image comparison, Patel.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 02:06:45 PM
Zelda OoT 3DS is coming out on June 7th. 

(http://i.imgur.com/hnNFH.jpg)

yep

(http://gamersleak.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/infinity_blade.jpg)

Hmm.

Yeah!  One game that can be played for hours upon hours, and another game that has the same level over and over again and can be beaten in one night!

Come the fuck on, Patel.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 02:08:35 PM
Not sure what you're trying to say with that image comparison, Patel.

"The Nintendo 3DS is a last-generation piece of crap with absolutely no reason to exist in 2011, and I greatly anticipate watching Nintendo dive head-up-their-own-ass-first into PlayStation 3-level irrelevancy with all the velocity and planning of an alcoholic barrel-jumper hurling themselves over Niagara Falls."
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 02:11:00 PM
Skyward Sword looks vastly improved.

EB fucking destroyed. :bow :bow :bow

lol, the trailer was wank. Link hits his sword on things: the game
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Oblivion on March 02, 2011, 02:12:53 PM
Patel, I'm not sure what that other game is, but it looks like a 360/PS3 title, and I just found the comparison strange cause no one was saying the 3DS was a powerhouse along those lines to begin with.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 02:14:33 PM
Skyward Sword looks vastly improved.

EB fucking destroyed. :bow :bow :bow

lol, the trailer was wank. Link hits his sword on things: the game

Seriously, I was trying to figure out what to get hyped for when I was watching that trailer. It looks boring as fuck. This isn't 1997 anymore, Nintendo.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 02:16:31 PM
lol, that's an Iphone game, dude.

an iPhone game that costs $3!

more specifically, an iPhone game I haven't played before, making it infinitely more interesting and valuable than a Zelda game I played back in 1998.

Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Diunx on March 02, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
:rofl at that controller taking like half the screen on zelda.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 02, 2011, 02:18:19 PM
Not sure what you're trying to say with that image comparison, Patel.

"The Nintendo 3DS is a last-generation piece of crap with absolutely no reason to exist in 2011, and I greatly anticipate watching Nintendo dive head-up-their-own-ass-first into PlayStation 3-level irrelevancy with all the velocity and planning of an alcoholic barrel-jumper hurling themselves over Niagara Falls."

Yup, I'm positive the 3DS is gonna be a total bomb.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 02:19:48 PM
Zelda OoT 3DS looks fine for a quick port/remake of a 1998 Nintendo 64 game.  It doesn't look any more impressive than the Dreamcast versions of N64/PS1 games like Soul Reaver or Rayman 2.  There are much better looking games on the 3DS and if they ever get around to making a new Zelda for it, it will probably look a lot better.  But because of that, it doesn't really look good or anything.  I can't tell if people are being sarcastic in the gaf thread.


This is like the episode of seinfeld with the ugly baby
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Robo on March 02, 2011, 02:20:55 PM
That HUD on Skyward Sword is out of control.  :-X
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Oblivion on March 02, 2011, 02:21:49 PM
lol, that's an Iphone game, dude.

ohhhhh :/

Skyward Sword looks vastly improved.

EB fucking destroyed. :bow :bow :bow

lol, the trailer was wank. Link hits his sword on things: the game

Well, it's true the trailer didn't have too many interesting things going on with it, but I was mainly commenting on the graphics.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 02:25:13 PM
Well, it's true the trailer didn't have too many interesting things going on with it, but I was mainly commenting on the graphics.

...that are comparable to a Gamecube title.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Oblivion on March 02, 2011, 02:28:24 PM
Well, it's true the trailer didn't have too many interesting things going on with it, but I was mainly commenting on the graphics.

...that are comparable to a Gamecube title.

Good thing it's running on a Gamecube then, isn't it?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 02:30:13 PM
Just trying to remind you that it is 2011.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 02:31:36 PM
christ, now I know why I stop talking about games with internet guys.  I'm just gonna enjoy the games I enjoy and fuck all of you for getting so butthurt

spoiler (click to show/hide)
currently enjoying Tiny Wings
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Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 02:33:57 PM
BrandNew, if you're honestly excited about what you saw in that trailer compared to everything else that's coming out this year, you need to have your head examined.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 02:34:39 PM
we're only talking about the graphics.  I mean, what else is there to say about OoT 3DS? most of us probably played it ~12 years ago.

skyward sword looked good.  I like WSR sword fighting and what they showed was that tech demo stuff turned into a video game.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 02:35:09 PM
BrandNew, being too cool since 2011
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 02, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
It's kinda weird that the people who have such hardons for iPhone games tend to be the people who immediately dismissed the DS and Wii and their "casual" stuff. Not saying that the DS/Wii casual stuff was any good either, I just find that strange.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 02:39:10 PM
It's kinda weird that the people who have such hardons for iPhone games tend to be the people who immediately dismissed the DS and Wii and their "casual" stuff. Not saying that the DS/Wii casual stuff was any good either, I just find that strange.

It's probably because Apple is charging $1-$5 and Nintendo is charging $40-$50.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 02:39:40 PM
iphone stuff is like a dollar or three, and it's on your phone, with games being one of the many tasks its capable of.

ds/3ds/wii 'casual' stuff is full priced, $30 to $50, and on hardware designed to play video games, that is bought for the purpose of playing video games.

having said that, I have no problems with either of them.  there are some fun 'casual' games I have for the ds and wii.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 02:39:43 PM
BrandNew, if you're honestly excited about what you saw in that trailer compared to everything else that's coming out this year, you need to have your head examined.

I'm excited for a Zelda game, my favorite franchise.  How can you fault me?  I'm also probably MORE excited for arkham city.  shock and awe, I like video games!
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 02:43:12 PM
christ, now I know why I stop talking about games with internet guys.  I'm just gonna enjoy the games I enjoy and fuck all of you for getting so butthurt

spoiler (click to show/hide)
currently enjoying Tiny Wings
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lol, it seems like you're the "butthurt" one here, going into full Nintendo damage control mode when people start ripping on your sacred swine of a game.

OoT was shit in 1998, and 13 years have passed since then. Nintendo are truly a reptilian company nowadays, on par with Activision.

WOULD IT FUCKING KILL THEM TO MAKE A NEW IP
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 02:43:31 PM
I'm excited for a Zelda game, my favorite franchise.  How can you fault me?

Easily. Zelda has been shit for the past two games, and Nintendo has spent this gen proving to everyone with a functioning brain how little they give a shit about their "core" demographic. Combine this knowledge with what we've seen of the game so far and the result is quite simple.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 02:44:25 PM
oh jesus.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 02:45:00 PM
At this point, its like getting excited for the new Dynasty Warriors game.

:rofl so true!
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: maxy on March 02, 2011, 02:48:13 PM
Not sure what you're trying to say with that image comparison, Patel.

"The Nintendo 3DS is a last-generation piece of crap with absolutely no reason to exist in 2011, and I look forward to watching Nintendo squander their momentum as they dive head-up-their-own-ass-first into PlayStation 3-level irrelevancy with all the velocity and planning of an alcoholic barrel-jumper hurling themselves over Niagara Falls."

That won't happen unfourtanetly  :'(
nintendo cultists>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sony cultists

But i do see this smartphone thing hurting them(financially),they sure talk a lot about them lately...

Quote
Nintendo are truly a reptilian company nowadays

 :rofl


Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Oblivion on March 02, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
I'm excited for a Zelda game, my favorite franchise.  How can you fault me?

Easily. Zelda has been shit for the past two games, and Nintendo has spent this gen proving to everyone with a functioning brain how little they give a shit about their "core" demographic. Combine this knowledge with what we've seen of the game so far and the result is quite simple.

You mean the past 2 handheld games or console ones?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 02:58:19 PM
For the record

I too, enjoy video games.

Just making that clear. In case there was any doubt. At all.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 03:05:34 PM
Yes, I think we should all agree anybody who doesn't like video games should stop posting on this board immediately.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 03:08:44 PM
Speaking of "cheap crappy unfulfilling iphone games"

New Free Update for Infinity Blade

Quote
•Gain access to the all-new “Dungeon” game play environment.
•Players can battle and explore through six new game arenas, which nearly doubles the size of the game.
•Featuring The Deathless Kings, players will encounter ten new enemies, including the Wood Jester, the Iron Guard, the Plated Sorok, the Warden, and more.
•Fans will have the ability to continue building their character with NewGame+, which allows gamers to re-master any item, unlock new items in the store, and removes the level cap.
•Collect and master more than 30 all-new magic rings, swords, shields, helmets, and armor.
•Gain new achievements and compete on the leaderboards.
•Enjoy new gameplay enhancements and optimizations, including multiple character slots, dodge button size slider, and audio volume controls.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 03:09:26 PM
Looks like Epic was reading this thread.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: SantaC on March 02, 2011, 03:10:54 PM
The visuals in Skyward sword is  :yuck :'(

Nintendo needs to get up to speed with their hardware, because playing Zelda in 2003 graphics is not exciting. That said, I am sure the gameplay will be improved upon Twilight Princess.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 03:16:04 PM
Now BrandNew, do you see why there's no reason to be excited for a Zelda game? This is how gaming works now. Instant feedback and content patches that increase game value. That's the way to succeed in the casual market. Nintendo's way of doing what Epic just did is releasing full, $50 retail discs.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: SantaC on March 02, 2011, 03:18:31 PM
over and under for Skyward sword actual coming out this year? Iwata didn't mention a release date and the year is already a couple of months old.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 03:22:00 PM
E3 will have more info
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 02, 2011, 03:25:14 PM
Now BrandNew, do you see why there's no reason to be excited for a Zelda game? This is how gaming works now. Instant feedback and content patches that increase game value. That's the way to succeed in the casual market. Nintendo's way of doing what Epic just did is releasing full, $50 retail discs.

Wait, what? This post makes no sense. A new Zelda game will still have tons more content than Infinity Blade regardless of how many free patches Epic puts out (even though I think it's really cool they put out something for free like that).

One reason I have never gotten into the whole smartphone gaming thing is because I like buttons, and game experiences with at least a bit of content. Not glorified Flash gaming that takes all of 2 minutes to play. (I don't have ADD where I need to be constantly fiddling around with my phone/gaming, and only really use my DS/PSP for longer train rides or flights)
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 02, 2011, 03:49:37 PM
Iwata is trollin apps while I play Tiny Wings. U mad

:bow Tiny Wings :bow2

YES! FINALLY!

:bow Tiny Wings :bow2

:bow people with taste :bow2
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 03:50:45 PM
Speaking of "cheap crappy unfulfilling iphone games"

New Free Update for Infinity Blade

Quote
•Gain access to the all-new “Dungeon” game play environment.
•Players can battle and explore through six new game arenas, which nearly doubles the size of the game.
•Featuring The Deathless Kings, players will encounter ten new enemies, including the Wood Jester, the Iron Guard, the Plated Sorok, the Warden, and more.
•Fans will have the ability to continue building their character with NewGame+, which allows gamers to re-master any item, unlock new items in the store, and removes the level cap.
•Collect and master more than 30 all-new magic rings, swords, shields, helmets, and armor.
•Gain new achievements and compete on the leaderboards.
•Enjoy new gameplay enhancements and optimizations, including multiple character slots, dodge button size slider, and audio volume controls.

I would say "Nintendo got served," but I'm sure an increasingly irrelevant card-manufacturer is the last thing on ChAIR's mind as they embrace modern game design principles, state-of-the-art hardware, and non-archaic sales and distribution channels.

:bow ChAIR :bow2
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 02, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
i don't know if it's fake but i read on a news site that 3DS is going to have game gear games.... was there ever a single good game gear game?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 02, 2011, 04:00:51 PM
i don't know if it's fake but i read on a news site that 3DS is going to have game gear games.... was there ever a single good game gear game?


Defenders of Oasis
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Himu on March 02, 2011, 04:05:39 PM
3ds Mario makes me cum.

OoT 3ds looks hot.

Skyward Sword trailer makes it look about as boring and derivative as a new Tetris game.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 02, 2011, 04:12:20 PM
I like how Reggie talked about taking the Netflix experience from the 3DS screen to a FLAT SCREEN TV -- not an HDTV, lol. They have trained him well
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 02, 2011, 04:19:45 PM
Honestly the entire keynote was a snooze-fest. I'm so glad I tuned in to Apple's conference.

Curing autism > fostering autism
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2011, 04:27:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Cp1nn.jpg)

robert smith gets his first shot at videogame villainy
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: iconoclast on March 02, 2011, 04:31:40 PM
3ds Mario makes me cum.

OoT 3ds looks hot.

Skyward Sword trailer makes it look about as boring and derivative as a new Tetris game.

Shit, I wish Arika would make a new Tetris: The Grandmaster. Even Mihara is butthurt about not being to make it :(
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 04:33:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Cp1nn.jpg)

robert smith gets his first shot at videogame villainy

So I try to laugh about it
Cover it all up with lies
I try to
laugh about it
Hiding the tears in my eyes
'cause boys don't cry
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Brehvolution on March 02, 2011, 04:39:29 PM
At first I thought maybe the purple under his eyes were the product of a quarter century gin addiction. But no, it's just gay makeup.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 04:41:17 PM
Now BrandNew, do you see why there's no reason to be excited for a Zelda game? This is how gaming works now. Instant feedback and content patches that increase game value. That's the way to succeed in the casual market. Nintendo's way of doing what Epic just did is releasing full, $50 retail discs.

Wait, what? This post makes no sense. A new Zelda game will still have tons more content than Infinity Blade regardless of how many free patches Epic puts out (even though I think it's really cool they put out something for free like that).

Wasn't really comparing the games 1:1, more of the way they're being marketed to the "casuals".
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: naff on March 02, 2011, 04:52:23 PM
Quote
Now BrandNew, do you see why there's no reason to be excited for a Zelda game? This is how gaming works now. Instant feedback and content patches that increase game value. That's the way to succeed in the casual market

These two things confuse me, why would anyone be less excited for Zelda because of Infinity Blade? And since when did DLC bring in the casuals?

I think many devs could learn things from small agile developments like Infinity Blade, not just Nintendo, and at the end of the day it (Infinity Blade) seems like little more than a tech demo wrapped around a casual game.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 04:53:10 PM
now there is some PSP2 stuff happening or something

only notable new info so far is that game cards are 2gb and 4gb (reference: UMD maxed out at 1.8gb)

well, I don't know if the 4 arm9 32-bit cores was known before or not.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 04:54:22 PM
I think many devs could learn things from small agile developments like Infinity Blade, not just Nintendo, and at the end of the day it (Infinity Blade) seems like little more than a tech demo wrapped around a casual game.

Sounds like Skyward Sword.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 02, 2011, 05:03:14 PM
No it doesn't.

Silliness sans humor is a major turn off.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 05:03:44 PM
now there is some PSP2 stuff happening or something

only notable new info so far is that game cards are 2gb and 4gb (reference: UMD maxed out at 1.8gb)

booooooo
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 02, 2011, 05:08:41 PM
Co-signed.

Hope there's room for bigger capacities down the line. It wouldn't be impossible for flash card techs now, would it?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 05:16:15 PM
that's just about the right size for a bunch of fucking minigames and half-sized ports

Uncharted Climbers

Resistance Arena

Designated Killzone

inFamous:  Protect This Street

LittleBigAsteroid

Ratchet:  Where in the World is Clank

Gran Turismo 5
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 02, 2011, 05:19:12 PM
:lol :lol
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 05:20:43 PM
that's just about the right size for a bunch of fucking minigames and half-sized ports

Uncharted Climbers

Resistance Arena

Designated Killzone

inFamous:  Protect This Street

LittleBigAsteroid

Ratchet:  Where in the World is Clank

Gran Turismo 5


Light Rain: Partly Cloudy this Afternoon
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 05:22:36 PM
:lol

Sport Champion

God of Skirmish
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 05:24:41 PM
You guys are hating on skyward sword because you dont have the skills to play an adventure game that requires timing, atleast i can admit that it is too  much for me.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 05:25:23 PM
MAG (mini action game)
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 05:27:58 PM
You guys are hating on skyward sword because you dont have the skills to play an adventure game that requires timing, atleast i can admit that it is too  much for me.

Ok I'll bite.

This is a distinguished mentally-challenged ass comment.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 05:29:38 PM
Warhawkwings Island

Motorsprinkle
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 05:30:53 PM
who cares about Zelda, Sony fucked up on the cart size
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 05:31:55 PM
who cares about sony, free update for game from greatest devs ever since advent rising which is also great
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 05:32:33 PM
Sly Cooper's Touch 'n' Tickle
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 05:34:02 PM
You guys are hating on skyward sword because you dont have the skills to play an adventure game that requires timing, atleast i can admit that it is too  much for me.

Ok I'll bite.

This is a distinguished mentally-challenged ass comment.

From that trailer i can see EVERYTHING requires timing.  Not fun for me.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 05:39:25 PM
Well it is just a combat trailer.  :lol
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 05:39:36 PM
Call of Duty:  Falklands
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 02, 2011, 05:41:34 PM
3D movies on small blurry screen? awesome
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 02, 2011, 05:41:44 PM
From that trailer I can see nothing NOTHING new. Link even makes the same sounds he did on the n64. The whole concept is so stale and tired its embarassing really.

Now you may say games like COD are stale too, but they only last 5 hours.

le sigh.  it's a combat trailer, its purpose being to show off wii motion + integration.  Link's voice actor has remained the same since the N64, so OF COURSE he sounds the same.  Like what the fuck, really man?  For real?  THAT'S what you're complaining about?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 06:05:32 PM
more psp2 stuff: http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/03/sony-ngp-power/

seems like the back (or the front too?) touch panel is pressure sensitive.  I guess the back one is basically like a laptop touch pad.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 02, 2011, 06:33:09 PM
saying that zelda is stale is like saying the sky is blue

do you people get angry when they tell you that the sky is blue? ???
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: maxy on March 02, 2011, 07:38:41 PM
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David Coombes, a platform research manager for Sony Computer Entertainment America, explained that although the NGP is equipped with a high-performance quad-core CPU theoretically capable of 2GHz, the clock speeds will have to be dialled down in order to preserve the PSP successor's battery life and prevent it from running too hot.

"Some people in the press have said wow, this thing... could be as powerful as PS3. Well, it's not going to run at 2GHz because the battery would last five minutes," he said. "And it would probably set fire to your pants."

Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: iconoclast on March 02, 2011, 07:41:11 PM
You guys are hating on skyward sword because you dont have the skills to play an adventure game that requires timing, atleast i can admit that it is too  much for me.

what the shit

I really, really wish that the new Zelda would be SO HARD TO PLAY that it would turn people away. then maybe i'd be looking forward to it.

but it's a nintendo game, so obviously it's going to be easy and boring.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 07:56:59 PM
http://gdc2011.nintendo.com/

Its near the end.


Yeah i know there is a gdc thread but this is an interesting topic.

So far I phones games i have seen are either ports of really old games(SMB2), something that can be done on the DS(Zenonia) or plain crap games(Infinity blade).  I am wondering if he has a point though about craftmanship.  The games dont really compare with console or even hand held games.  There is a rare few like ossian studios "the shadow sun" but i am wondering if they will turn a profit on it, i hope they dont die because of thie iphone investment as i loved the mysteries of westgate game for NWN2.  I personally think downloadable games are the way to go like on XBL and PSN but not like the model they have for iphones.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 02, 2011, 08:01:56 PM
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Zelda happens to be one of the most creative franchises in gaming

nah it's always the same boring mess that takes you trough a forest/fire/water (in that order) place so you can get a boomerang/hookshot/bombs

if nintendo had a little more balls they would stop rehashing stuff and make a new adventure puzzley game,i mean looking at that trailer they are already ripping off puzzles out of zack & wiki so.... :smug
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 02, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
egad!
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:10:35 PM
Did you not read the part i said i was aware of that?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 08:12:03 PM
Did you not read the part i said i was aware of that?

The GDC thread is 90% about Nintendo and iPhone!
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 08:19:28 PM
You guys are hating on skyward sword because you dont have the skills to play an adventure game that requires timing, atleast i can admit that it is too  much for me.

wow, just wow
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:19:46 PM
Ah its been merged.  So how about making a counter point to what i said?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 08:20:17 PM
desperate flailing of a man seeing all his casual novelty game money draining away
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: iconoclast on March 02, 2011, 08:20:40 PM
Iwata is right. Phone apps are throwaway minigames that get boring after 10 minutes

then again, the same can be said about a lot of the stuff that Nintendo puts out
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 02, 2011, 08:21:39 PM
So far I phones games i have seen are either ports of really old games(SMB2), something that can be done on the DS(Zenonia) or plain crap games(Infinity blade).

Nice troll.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 08:22:06 PM
bububu dsware is different, guys

guys
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:23:36 PM
Well a game that artifically lengthens it self my making you face an unbeatable boss that kills you without the infinity blade so you have to die and get your children to do the same a million times is a shit game i am sorry.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:24:08 PM
bububu dsware is different, guys

guys

DSWare is garbage.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 08:24:36 PM
don't think that grinning shithead wouldn't sell it to you for $40 on a proprietary cart if he could
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:29:34 PM
don't think that grinning shithead wouldn't sell it to you for $40 on a proprietary cart if he could

No question about it, after all look at punchout wii.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 08:32:43 PM
the point is, no matter how many sit-downs and interviews and friendly "iwata asks" chats he has, at the end of it he doesn't give a rat's ass about your gaming experience

he just wants your dollars, and he's getting publicly pissy about the fact that others have dipped their cocks into his golden minigame pussy
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Regardless you didnt address his point.  Just because he thinks that way doesnt mean other devs do.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 08:39:58 PM
Man, what an intense gathering of immature defensive pissy nerds we have had in this thread today.

Zelda skyward sword looks cool, although the trailer does seem slapped together.  Is there a transcript out there of what Iwata said specifically about iphone gaming?  I think he's one of the most level headed dudes out there with some good business sense, but it seems ridiculous to attack the apple model when it seems to be benefitting both smaller developers and consumers.  My secret hope is that 3ds software starts out not selling up to snuff and they go with budget pricing the rest of the gen.  I don't need production values really. Just make my games fun!
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 08:40:41 PM
he doesn't have a fucking point

he'd happily sell every one of those games to you exclusively on a nintendo device at a higher price point, but he can't, so he's slagging them off
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:43:33 PM
Man, what an intense gathering of immature defensive pissy nerds we have had in this thread today.

Zelda skyward sword looks cool, although the trailer does seem slapped together.  Is there a transcript out there of what Iwata said specifically about iphone gaming?  I think he's one of the most level headed dudes out there with some good business sense, but it seems ridiculous to attack the apple model when it seems to be benefitting both smaller developers and consumers.  My secret hope is that 3ds software starts out not selling up to snuff and they go with budget pricing the rest of the gen.  I don't need production values really. Just make my games fun!

I cant find a transcript yet.  :/



he doesn't have a fucking point

he'd happily sell every one of those games to you exclusively on a nintendo device at a higher price point, but he can't, so he's slagging them off

He may be but others even in his company doont think that way.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 08:46:42 PM
Well a game that artifically lengthens it self my making you face an unbeatable boss that kills you without the infinity blade so you have to die and get your children to do the same a million times is a shit game i am sorry.

(http://i.imgur.com/fyYoV.png)
$49.99
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:47:34 PM
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9:57 — Iwata asks, “Is making high-value games a top priority, or not?” He’s making the case for making high-quality content versus cheap downloadable stuff. He doesn’t specifically mention iPhone, but this is clearly what he’s angling at right now.

9:58 — “The objectives of smartphones and social network platforms are not at all like ours,” he says, referring to traditional gamemakers like Nintendo and Sony. “For them, content is something created by someone else. Their goal is just to gather as much software as possible because quantity is what makes the money flow. Quantity is how they profit. The value of videogame software does not matter to them.”

10:00 — “What we produce has value, and we should protect that value. All is not lost,” he says.


This is the best i can find.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
there are plenty of full games on ios (and, mind you, i am no apple fanboy)

dead space, a full game which costs $10, is one example

any of gameloft's knockoffs or originals (the spider-man game is original and decent) are another, and they generally run between 6-10 with frequent .99 sales

these are games he can't sell you for $40 on an sd card

thus, he mad
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
he doesn't have a fucking point

he'd happily sell every one of those games to you exclusively on a nintendo device at a higher price point, but he can't, so he's slagging them off

I think you're being a little overzealous here.  He's stated in the past that they don't think they can get away with selling tetris like games for 30 bucks ever again (although they did do that on the ds).  This occurred around the time they were launching their wiiware service I believe.  My computer overheats if I try and watch long vids so is there a tl;dw version of what he said?  I don't know what to blindly defend here.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 08:48:45 PM
Well a game that artifically lengthens it self my making you face an unbeatable boss that kills you without the infinity blade so you have to die and get your children to do the same a million times is a shit game i am sorry.

(http://i.imgur.com/fyYoV.png)
$49.99

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No question about it, after all look at punchout wii.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 08:50:01 PM
Well a game that artifically lengthens it self my making you face an unbeatable boss that kills you without the infinity blade so you have to die and get your children to do the same a million times is a shit game i am sorry.

(http://i.imgur.com/fyYoV.png)
$49.99

Oh I mad
 :maf LEAVE THE BEST PUNCHOUT GAME ALONE  :maf
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 08:52:59 PM
again, what exactly is his point if indeed there is one

he blathers on about maintaining quality and value and then sells the same type of games at a higher price point

if there is a point, please tell me, because all i see is a guy complaining out of one side of his mouth and ordering up another round of motion-controlled 3D pong games out of the other

Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
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9:57 — Iwata asks, “Is making high-value games a top priority, or not?” He’s making the case for making high-quality content versus cheap downloadable stuff. He doesn’t specifically mention iPhone, but this is clearly what he’s angling at right now.

9:58 — “The objectives of smartphones and social network platforms are not at all like ours,” he says, referring to traditional gamemakers like Nintendo and Sony. “For them, content is something created by someone else. Their goal is just to gather as much software as possible because quantity is what makes the money flow. Quantity is how they profit. The value of videogame software does not matter to them.”

10:00 — “What we produce has value, and we should protect that value. All is not lost,” he says.


This is the best i can find.

Wow, this is arguably the first distinguished mentally-challenged thing I've heard him say.  Super hypocritical too considering that they dropped all quality standards on their systems in an effort to profit from liscenses issued to every shovelware developer who came a knocking. 
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
that's what i'm saying

i have nothing against the wii (hell, no less than three passed through my hands), or the 3ds

i'm just wondering what the hell this dude is complaining about, when he ought to be sucking the dick of every angry birds dev out there and locking down exclusives
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
I'll be fair and say that Nintendo generously released their best DS game in 2010, Picross 3D, for a budget price of $19.99.  Ninty gets it!
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:08:01 PM
that's what i'm saying

i have nothing against the wii (hell, no less than three passed through my hands), or the 3ds

i'm just wondering what the hell this dude is complaining about, when he ought to be sucking the dick of every angry birds dev out there and locking down exclusives

I agree with this.  I think where he is coming from is  he feels the entire business model will be threatened by the change in value perception from the average consumer.  Nintendo's forte is not gritty, nor nerdy, nor niche genre specialization.  They like their light hearted affairs and perhaps fear their normal demographics flocking elsewhere.

What a weird gen where the disruptor gets disrupted themselves in no time.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:08:24 PM
again, what exactly is his point if indeed there is one

he blathers on about maintaining quality and value and then sells the same type of games at a higher price point

if there is a point, please tell me, because all i see is a guy complaining out of one side of his mouth and ordering up another round of motion-controlled 3D pong games out of the other



I agree.  He diminishes his own point with stuff like wii sports.  Games should be priced according to dev cost.  That is the biggest failing at Nintendo.  Also everything should be downloadable at a cheaper price.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
I do get however doing so will kill off RPG games because of how much they cost to develop.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 09:11:46 PM
its good that Nintendo are demonstrating some sort of fear, they are fucking done,

Software sales aside from Mario are in the shitter, it's all over for these clowns
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 02, 2011, 09:12:44 PM
Summary

Iwata: The market will want what I tell them to want.

Typical head in the sand stuff from Japan. I understand they want to keep their value but if you look at XBLA there's a way you can do both.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:14:16 PM
In the case of the wii specifically though, when they release the games for 50 dollars and they sell out for months straight, there is no good reason to drop the price.  Considering how wii itself sold out for years straight they could have gotten away with a higher pricetag since the beginnning.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
its good that Nintendo are demonstrating some sort of fear, they are fucking done,

Software sales aside from Mario are in the shitter, it's all over for these clowns

Uh, no. Not at all.  They are having some slowdown selling hardware but THEIR software is mostly doing just fine. 
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:17:38 PM
Summary

Iwata: The market will want what I tell them to want.

Typical head in the sand stuff from Japan. I understand they want to keep their value but if you look at XBLA there's a way you can do both.

he doesnt mention XBLA though.


 

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its good that Nintendo are demonstrating some sort of fear, they are fucking done,

Software sales aside from Mario are in the shitter, it's all over for these clowns

Well they are makign the highest profits of any other developer form their games.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 02, 2011, 09:19:10 PM
Nintendo for about half a decade has been raking in huge profits selling shitty little minigames for full price.  Now that people are selling those minigames for a small fraction of the costs, it will be a harder sell to explain to people why people should pay $40 for Yoshi Touch and Go 2 when they could find an iOS alternative (that probably does the job better) for 99 cents.  Especially if Nintendo sells 2 million copies of Yoshi Touch and Go 2 but could have sold over 3 million if it wasn't for those iOS alternatives, that is tens of millions of dollars they are losing out on.  I can see why Nintendo is mad.

Not that I sympathize with them.  Nintendo has shown us time and time again that they'd rather just rehash and port than develop compelling new content.  Games like Super Mario Galaxy are proof that they still have it in them to make great games, which makes their policy all the more insidious and shitty.  I hope iOS completely drains Nintendo's quick buck bottom line, lighting a fire under their ass to start producing legitimate efforts, not half ass a 1998 port that has been lapped by the emulation community over half a decade ago.  Not producing underpowered hardware with a gimmick while charging premium prices in the hopes that people are stupid enough to overvalue the gimmickry.

That said, the 3DS Mario has piqued my interest.  If it turns out well, I'll probably get a 3DS.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 02, 2011, 09:22:07 PM
Summary

Iwata: The market will want what I tell them to want.

Typical head in the sand stuff from Japan. I understand they want to keep their value but if you look at XBLA there's a way you can do both.

he doesnt mention XBLA though.


Never said he did. Obviously Nintendo don't want to go down the iOS app store route, but they could embrace a digital store (XBLA being the example), and bring themselves into the 21st century by acknowledging that people want these cheaper, easier to digest games.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:29:07 PM
Never said he did. Obviously Nintendo don't want to go down the iOS app store route, but they could embrace a digital store (XBLA being the example), and bring themselves into the 21st century by acknowledging that people want these cheaper, easier to digest games.

They are with the 3ds.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 09:30:07 PM
 :lol I will admit I have no clue what I'm talking about. I just fucking hate Nintendo for their refusal to innovate and their overpriced dinosaur hardware.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 02, 2011, 09:31:09 PM
Never said he did. Obviously Nintendo don't want to go down the iOS app store route, but they could embrace a digital store (XBLA being the example), and bring themselves into the 21st century by acknowledging that people want these cheaper, easier to digest games.

They are with the 3ds.

Not really.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:32:11 PM
Sceneman has generally proven to be about as savvy when talking about sales as I am when talking about rocket ship repair.  

Iwata's just pissy because Nintendo had a good racket going selling games with low dev budgets for full retail prices and the iPhone market seriously threatens that.  It's bad for his business, so of course he's going to talk it down.  This isn't a problem he can talk away though, so I hope he's got something better than that planned.

The iphone market threatens big budget games too.  And there is the issue that iwata is speaking about.  If for example people had the choice to buy either one high quality Final Fantasy game or 10 cheap iphone games, most people would buy the iphone games.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:33:09 PM
...
I don't know how you can't see the wiimote and the ds featureset as innovative.  You may not like it but it certainly was a risk and a break from the norm.

IN OTHER NEWS

People in the gaf thread are hating on the skyward sword trailer because it didn't have any reference to story.  ...sigh....
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:34:07 PM
Not really.

Explain.  They spent a fair segment at gdc talking about it.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 09:35:10 PM
Sceneman has generally proven to be about as savvy when talking about sales as I am when talking about rocket ship repair.  

Iwata's just pissy because Nintendo had a good racket going selling games with low dev budgets for full retail prices and the iPhone market seriously threatens that.  It's bad for his business, so of course he's going to talk it down.  This isn't a problem he can talk away though, so I hope he's got something better than that planned.

The iphone market threatens big budget games too.  And there is the issue that iwata is speaking about.  If for example people had the choice to buy either one high quality Final Fantasy game or 10 cheap iphone games, most people would buy the iphone games.

Unfortunately people actually couldn't physically buy one high quality Final Fantasy game over 10 iphone games even if they wanted to! hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:38:06 PM
The iphone market threatens big budget games too.  And there is the issue that iwata is speaking about.  If for example people had the choice to buy either one high quality Final Fantasy game or 10 cheap iphone games, most people would buy the iphone games.

I'm not convinced it does.  I don't think there's a terribly large overlap between, say, a Final Fantasy buyer and someone whose gaming urges will be satisfied by ten quickies.

There might be an overlap between someone looking at a 40 dollar Pilotwings 3ds game or a cheapo iphone app though.  Nintendo be all concerned and stuff.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 02, 2011, 09:38:32 PM
Sceneman has generally proven to be about as savvy when talking about sales as I am when talking about rocket ship repair.  

Iwata's just pissy because Nintendo had a good racket going selling games with low dev budgets for full retail prices and the iPhone market seriously threatens that.  It's bad for his business, so of course he's going to talk it down.  This isn't a problem he can talk away though, so I hope he's got something better than that planned.

The iphone market threatens big budget games too.  And there is the issue that iwata is speaking about.  If for example people had the choice to buy either one high quality Final Fantasy game or 10 cheap iphone games, most people would buy the iphone games.

Unfortunately people actually couldn't physically buy one high quality Final Fantasy game over 10 iphone games even if they wanted to! hahahahahahaha

Damn, you made the post I was gonna make  :P

Though Nintendo still makes some fun and content-filled titles, I don't get where this whole "Nintendo does nothing but minigames" nonsense comes from... The Marios, the Zeldas, Sin and Punishment 2 (released by Nintendo), the Fire Emblems, Paper Marios, Golden Suns, etc.

When I pick up Wii or DS games it's not Brain Age or Wii Music, at least...
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:40:06 PM
I'm not convinced it does.  I don't think there's a terribly large overlap between, say, a Final Fantasy buyer and someone whose gaming urges will be satisfied by ten quickies.

I think you are wrong on this.  There are very few hardcore gamers these days.  People who used to buy say FF7 just for the FMV's are buying iphone games.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 09:41:20 PM
Well I'd be all over a new installment of a quality Nintendo franchise which hasn't already been done to death, a new Paper Mario, Pikmin of F-Zero would be great!

But all we're seeing is another copy pasta 3d Zelda and another 3d Mario. zzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:42:46 PM
THere is a new paper mario for the 3ds.  But i do agree, they need to make another F-zero.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 02, 2011, 09:44:01 PM
:lol I will admit I have no clue what I'm talking about. I just fucking hate Nintendo for their refusal to innovate and their overpriced dinosaur hardware.

This is why I fucking love this guy lol.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 09:46:16 PM
:lol I will admit I have no clue what I'm talking about. I just fucking hate Nintendo for their refusal to innovate and their overpriced dinosaur hardware.

This is why I fucking love this guy lol.

 :-* :-* :-*

don't get me wrong though! I fucking love video games and I used to love Nintendo too. It's just the success of the DS and Wii have made them lazy, complacent, overweight reptiles. Something needs to shit on their picnic.

And yeah, I do say stupid shit most of the time, but I just like to illustrate my opinions with baseless hyperbole. *shrug*
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:48:46 PM
I really hope you bought rhythm heaven.  And sin and punishment 2.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:49:38 PM
The people who bought FF7 for the FMVs stopped buying FF way before the advent of the iPhone.  I'd say that lot is currently squatting on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare, and that series looks like it's doing just fine to me.

Also it is splitting the gamer demographics a lot.  IT is causing uncertainty among high risk game developers.  For example all the MMO's are getting wowified... that sucks.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 09:50:20 PM
I really hope you bought rhythm heaven.  And sin and punishment 2.

*not Nintendo games*
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 02, 2011, 09:52:02 PM
Not really.

Explain.  They spent a fair segment at gdc talking about it.

Really?

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17:45PM By Ellie Gibson

Not every feature will be available out of the box - many of them will come with the update in late May, including the DSiWare service and the ability to transfer your existing DSiWare games to 3DS, plus the browser and eShop.
17:44PM By Ellie Gibson

So will 3D classics - remakes of old hits. And trailers, screenshots, background info, links to your own websites. Eurogamer.net full stops in 3D!
17:44PM By Ellie Gibson

Reggie's talking about the Nintendo eShop now. It includes the DSiWare service. You'll also get access to olden days Game Boy nonsense, yes we know. But that will include Game Gear and Turbo Grafx games.

Awesome, 3D remakes and ports of old console games. At some point in the future. Nintendo wins again, they get it unlike Apple or Microsoft or Sony
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:53:03 PM
Rhythm heaven was internally developed.  They published Sin and Punishment 2.  Splitting hairs, duder.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 09:54:17 PM
Rhythm heaven was internally developed.  They published Sin and Punishment 2.  Splitting hairs, duder.

*confusing me for someone who gives a shit*
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:54:59 PM
Really?

Quote
17:45PM By Ellie Gibson

Not every feature will be available out of the box - many of them will come with the update in late May, including the DSiWare service and the ability to transfer your existing DSiWare games to 3DS, plus the browser and eShop.
17:44PM By Ellie Gibson

So will 3D classics - remakes of old hits. And trailers, screenshots, background info, links to your own websites. Eurogamer.net full stops in 3D!
17:44PM By Ellie Gibson

Reggie's talking about the Nintendo eShop now. It includes the DSiWare service. You'll also get access to olden days Game Boy nonsense, yes we know. But that will include Game Gear and Turbo Grafx games.

Awesome, 3D remakes and ports of old console games. At some point in the future. Nintendo wins again, they get it unlike Apple or Microsoft or Sony

You are right.  I attributed the eshop to something siimilar to the XBLA.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 09:55:51 PM
the part which pisses me off is that the iOS model is EXACTLY what Nintendo has been curating on their systems for at least the Wii/DS, probably the GC and maybe even back to the N64.

What Iwata can't take is that Nintendo's sorry ass isn't any better off than any of the third-parties they've been sucking the life out of for years. We are all third parties now, working for Apple and Google. If you can't deal with that new reality then get the fuck out of the game industry.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:56:50 PM
Rhythm heaven was internally developed.  They published Sin and Punishment 2.  Splitting hairs, duder.

*confusing me for someone who gives a shit*

Hey guys this group x sucks because they don't do y
But sir, they do y
You're confusing me for someone who cares herp a derp derp derp
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 09:57:07 PM
I think that's tremendously oversimplifying the problems the industry is having at the moment.  If only it were all because of the iPhone boogeyman, it would be so easy to fix.  Alas, that's not the reality.  This industry was heading for a hurt-pile before the iPhone came about.  It's just that Apple figured out a way to make money under those conditions.

Come on.  You havent known kids going from the DS to the iphone?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 02, 2011, 09:58:41 PM
Rhythm heaven was internally developed.  They published Sin and Punishment 2.  Splitting hairs, duder.

*confusing me for someone who gives a shit*

Hey guys this group x sucks because they don't do y
But sir, they do y
You're confusing me for someone who cares herp a derp derp derp

look man don't get started with this. You don't have the panache to not get banned for it
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 09:59:12 PM

What Iwata can't take is that Nintendo's sorry ass isn't any better off than any of the third-parties they've been sucking the life out of for years.

What?  Like, they've been making an active effort to weaken other makers of games?  That's a weird takeaway from the situation.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2011, 10:00:25 PM

What Iwata can't take is that Nintendo's sorry ass isn't any better off than any of the third-parties they've been sucking the life out of for years.

What?  Like, they've been making an active effort to weaken other makers of games?  That's a weird takeaway from the situation.

Nintendo absolutely doesn't want anybody other than Nintendo making top-selling games for their platform
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 10:01:59 PM
Nintendo absolutely doesn't want anybody other than Nintendo making top-selling games for their platform

Just Dance?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 10:04:40 PM

What Iwata can't take is that Nintendo's sorry ass isn't any better off than any of the third-parties they've been sucking the life out of for years.

What?  Like, they've been making an active effort to weaken other makers of games?  That's a weird takeaway from the situation.

Nintendo absolutely doesn't want anybody other than Nintendo making top-selling games for their platform

Can't say I agree with that assessment at all.  They would love it if there were more phenomenons akin to Just Dance on their systems so they wouldn't have to be the sole bouy keeping their platforms afloat.  Its part of the reason they pursued resident evil the previous gen, monster hunter this gen, and are now actively trying to keep dragon quest game on their systems now.  It just so happens they are the best sellers on their own platforms for the reason that they are the only ones taking those platforms seriously at this point.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 02, 2011, 10:21:58 PM

What Iwata can't take is that Nintendo's sorry ass isn't any better off than any of the third-parties they've been sucking the life out of for years.

What?  Like, they've been making an active effort to weaken other makers of games?  That's a weird takeaway from the situation.

Nintendo absolutely doesn't want anybody other than Nintendo making top-selling games for their platform

Not entirely true, they just don't want anyone making games similar to theirs on their system. Which is why Just Dance is ok, and why they've got no interest in third parties on their digital stores.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 02, 2011, 10:30:22 PM
I'm not saying the iPhone isn't absorbing *some* of those gamers, but again, looking at cold, hard numbers, they aren't absorbing a significant amount.  

It's an easy excuse to say they are though. It's like opposite of the piracy excuse.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 10:37:38 PM

I live in Japan, so no.  :lol

Wow, Japan is strange.  I have known plenty of kids going form the DS to the iphone.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Trent Dole on March 02, 2011, 10:42:47 PM
Thread needs less distinguished mentally-challenged arguing and more Robert Smith.
[youtube=560,345]MI0a9hTh5AU[/youtube]
 :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 10:48:52 PM
Thing is that i think even kids are sick of your standard Mario and Pokemon.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: cool breeze on March 02, 2011, 10:54:11 PM
Thing is that i think even kids are sick of your standard Mario and Pokemon.

Nintendo still has the blue ocean ecosystem of babies to support them

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/mtuv3.jpg)
[close]
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 10:56:29 PM
Thing is that i think even kids are sick of your standard Mario and Pokemon.

I'm beginning to sense a pattern here. For future reference, don't assume trends with no factual way to support your perception. Mario and Pokemon are doing better than ever.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 02, 2011, 10:57:29 PM
Thing is that i think even kids are sick of your standard Mario and Pokemon.

Man I fucking wish. The only thing better than Nintendo's ability to make a shitty game is their ability to sell said shitty game.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 02, 2011, 11:04:25 PM
Rhythm heaven was internally developed.  They published Sin and Punishment 2.  Splitting hairs, duder.

*confusing me for someone who gives a shit*

Hey guys this group x sucks because they don't do y
But sir, they do y
You're confusing me for someone who cares herp a derp derp derp

look man don't get started with this. You don't have the panache to not get banned for it
:lol
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 11:05:25 PM
Thing is that i think even kids are sick of your standard Mario and Pokemon.

I'm beginning to sense a pattern here. For future reference, don't assume trends with no factual way to support your perception. Mario and Pokemon are doing better than ever.

Quote
NES  Super Mario  40.23 million bundled  
 NES  Super Mario Bros. 2  10 million  
 NES  Super Mario Bros. 3  18 million  
 GB  Super Mario Land  14 million (or 18 million?)  
 SNES  Super Mario World  20 million  
 GB  Super Mario Land 2  2.7 million in Japan  
 GB  Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land  1.59 million in Japan  
  Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island  4 million  
 N64  Super Mario 64  11 million  
 NGC  Super Mario Sunshine  5.5 million  
 NDS  New Super Mario Bros.  15.89 million  
 Wii  Super Mario Galaxy  6.1 million  

Mario is a dying franchise the big bump came form a easier 2d game.



Quote
GB  Pokémon Red, Blue, and Green  20.08 million approximately: 10.23 million in Japan, 9.85 million in US
GB  Pokémon Gold and Silver  14.51 million approximately: 7.6 million in US, 6.91 million in Japan
GBA  Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire  13 million  
NDS  Pokémon Diamond and Pearl  14.77 million  



Pokemon is slowly dying too.

EDIT:  I looked at the numbers again.  Pokemon isnt dying.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Purple Filth on March 02, 2011, 11:09:02 PM
Thing is that i think even kids are sick of your standard Mario and Pokemon.

Man I fucking wish. The only thing better than Nintendo's ability to make a shitty game is their ability to sell said shitty game.

Indeed.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 02, 2011, 11:09:58 PM
I wouldn't call the Mario and Pokemon games shitty, especially in a thread where people are debating the merits of cellphone games :P
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 11:12:25 PM
Pokemon is 15 years old.  Mario is 25.  What other series have been around this long and have the ability to sell over 10 million units in this day and age?

New Super Mario Bros ds/wii substantially improved upon their immediate predecessors.  Diamond/Pearl/Platinum reversed the decline the series was in. Your numbers don't support your assertion!
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 02, 2011, 11:13:47 PM
Pokemon is slowly dying. By the year 2831 it will barely be selling 1million units.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2011, 11:13:52 PM
Come on.  You havent known kids going from the DS to the iphone?

I live in Japan, so no.  :lol

But of course, the iPhone/iPod Touch is going to take some of those gamers.  There's considerable overlap in the kinds of games kids play and what the iOS platform offers.  That's not what you were arguing.  You were talking the kind of people that float your FFs and Call of Duty games and what have you.  

I'm just saying, the audience buying traditional games isn't any smaller than it was.  The sales numbers show that.  The industry isn't having problems because their previously Maddenholic, Mario-loving, Halo-shootin', Oedipal-sword-swinging gamers have migrated to cutting the rope.  It's having problems because the budgets for traditional games have outpaced the audience growth.  

I'm not saying the iPhone isn't absorbing *some* of those gamers, but again, looking at cold, hard numbers, they aren't absorbing a significant amount.  

the blue ocean just got redder
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2011, 11:18:51 PM
Pokemon is 15 years old.  Mario is 25.  What other series have been around this long and have the ability to sell over 10 million units in this day and age?

New Super Mario Bros ds/wii substantially improved upon their immediate predecessors.  Diamond/Pearl/Platinum reversed the decline the series was in. Your numbers don't support your assertion!

You are right about pokemon it isnt dying.  Considering the trash that was Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, i am quite unhappy about this.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 02, 2011, 11:25:11 PM
Look when you want to talk about dying Nintendo series, point to The legend of zelda and metroid. It riles fanboys particularly well but there's nothing they can do because its the truth.  Starfox and Fzero are already dead.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 02, 2011, 11:29:13 PM
Thankfully Sin and Punishment and Rhythm Togepi are here to fill the void
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: naff on March 03, 2011, 12:11:41 AM
Thing is that i think even kids are sick of your standard Mario and Pokemon.

 :lol  Not in Japan, they aren't.

Not here either. In fact, I've never met or heard of anyone younger than 18 with an iPhone here, yet kids with DS's are a dime a dozen. Americans  :dizzy
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 03, 2011, 12:21:28 AM
too many games on too many platforms grindan away at wallets, you can see another collapse coming a mile away

nintendo will squirt out a 360/PS3 level system next year and be just fine for a while, although third-party development will remain the sucking black hole it always is

it'll be the same shit we've had since 2005, but ninfans will see it and be all

[youtube=560,345]wa2nLEhUcZ0[/youtube]
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 03, 2011, 12:28:36 AM
Correction, it will be the same shit since 2010.  That is hd+wagglewand in one box with a weird online service that doesn't match the xbox live featureset (ps3).
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 03, 2011, 12:30:02 AM
true

they'll throw something else gimmicky in there to give it a lovely facade of freshness, maybe that's what they're saving that stupid finger sensor thing for
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 03, 2011, 12:31:54 AM
The All-New Nintendo FingerBang™
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 03, 2011, 12:33:38 AM
no one has posted the video with the spider yet? tsc tsc
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 03, 2011, 12:44:30 AM
too many games on too many platforms grindan away at wallets, you can see another collapse coming a mile away

nintendo will squirt out a 360/PS3 level system next year and be just fine for a while, although third-party development will remain the sucking black hole it always is

it'll be the same shit we've had since 2005, but ninfans will see it and be all

I know most of EB would disagree but I feel like NGP PSP2 is the odd man out for most adult gamers, at least in this country.  Since I don't use public transportation and only have one hour lunch breaks on weekdays, there's just no good reason for me to play big budget games on a 5 inch screen when I have a 60 inch plasma, HD consoles and a gaming PC.  I could be wrong but I think that nowadays most adult gamers don't need or want more than casual mobile games.  Keep in mind that when the DS and PSP launched, mobile web-surfing wasn't even 10% as common as it is now.  With mobile internet activities taking up so much of the free time outside, it's hard to have any time left for handheld gaming sessions.  
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Diunx on March 03, 2011, 01:03:39 AM
Zelda happens to be one of the most creative franchises in gaming, what might still have similar gameplay since OOT still adds new items and challenges to go through every time, not too mention exceptional design and gameplay with few flaws to speak of. Interesting worlds with interesting backstories and cliches yet good stories with excellent execution. And for those who say this Zelda is gimmicky, you have to remember that every zelda is gimmicky and you're lying if you say it never was. If you prefer one gimmick to another sure, but if you single out one of the series as gimmicky than you are just nitpicking and criticizing your own favorite Zelda.

Got your back BN.

:lol
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 03, 2011, 01:12:51 AM
Thanks for that highlight, Diunx. Normally I just scroll over blocks of text like that and miss those gems :lol
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Oblivion on March 03, 2011, 01:54:36 AM

What Iwata can't take is that Nintendo's sorry ass isn't any better off than any of the third-parties they've been sucking the life out of for years.

What?  Like, they've been making an active effort to weaken other makers of games?  That's a weird takeaway from the situation.

Nintendo absolutely doesn't want anybody other than Nintendo making top-selling games for their platform

And you think this...why exactly?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 03, 2011, 05:09:05 AM
Make sure y'all check out Thursday's conference with my man SWERY. Rumor has it that Sho Nuff makes a cameo.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: pilonv1 on March 03, 2011, 05:54:56 AM
Make sure y'all check out Thursday's conference with my man SWERY. Rumor has it that Sho Nuff makes a cameo.

:o will watch
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: chronovore on March 03, 2011, 07:04:14 AM
Not sure what you're trying to say with that image comparison, Patel.

"The Nintendo 3DS is a last-generation piece of crap with absolutely no reason to exist in 2011, and I greatly anticipate watching Nintendo dive head-up-their-own-ass-first into PlayStation 3-level irrelevancy with all the velocity and planning of an alcoholic barrel-jumper hurling themselves over Niagara Falls."

Truly, a picture /is/ worth a thousand words.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 03, 2011, 09:07:11 AM
too many games on too many platforms grindan away at wallets, you can see another collapse coming a mile away

nintendo will squirt out a 360/PS3 level system next year and be just fine for a while, although third-party development will remain the sucking black hole it always is

it'll be the same shit we've had since 2005, but ninfans will see it and be all

I know most of EB would disagree but I feel like NGP PSP2 is the odd man out for most adult gamers, at least in this country.  Since I don't use public transportation and only have one hour lunch breaks on weekdays, there's just no good reason for me to play big budget games on a 5 inch screen when I have a 60 inch plasma, HD consoles and a gaming PC.  I could be wrong but I think that nowadays most adult gamers don't need or want more than casual mobile games.  Keep in mind that when the DS and PSP launched, mobile web-surfing wasn't even 10% as common as it is now.  With mobile internet activities taking up so much of the free time outside, it's hard to have any time left for handheld gaming sessions.  

Most adults who play portables in the states usually play them at home, based on GAF and my own experiences.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: maxy on March 03, 2011, 11:02:34 AM
Interesting slide from PlayStation Network Analysis panel

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/03/psnfigures530pxdph.jpg)

Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Brehvolution on March 03, 2011, 11:08:08 AM
That is almost 2 accounts per PS3 sold!
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: maxy on March 03, 2011, 11:12:30 AM
No i like numbers,they are not quite up to date...or they are sold through numbers,unlikely

80% connected to PSN is also hmm...MS has said something about 50% connected(not gold,just connected)
I asuume that this is something like,connect one time...+1
Home?

70 million PSN accounts is not quite big,considering PSP and multiple accounts



Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2011, 12:46:40 PM
i have a 62" led tv and surround sound and guess what i never play consoles on it reliably

almost all my gaming is done on a laptop or a portable because a) i don't have anyone watching over my shoulder and then having nightmares about rats attacking her; and b) pc and portable games are much better suited to my tastes than most shitty console games. tactics ogre alone is better than anything i've played on a console this generation
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2011, 01:16:00 PM
i have a 62" led tv and surround sound and guess what i never play consoles on it reliably

almost all my gaming is done on a laptop or a portable because a) i don't have anyone watching over my shoulder and then having nightmares about rats attacking her; and b) pc and portable games are much better suited to my tastes than most shitty console games. tactics ogre alone is better than anything i've played on a console this generation

goddamn, doug. you and me, mayne. you and me.

i cannot stand hollywood gaming.

i can barely stand to play nier and have yet to finish bayonetta, but I can beat ghost trick in the span of just 5 or so days, get addicted to tactics ogre, and sail through ys, dragon quest, and all my various ios games and more with ease.

psp2 and 3ds really are the future.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 03, 2011, 01:21:02 PM
:bow hollywood gaming :bow2
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 03, 2011, 01:21:56 PM
psp2 and 3ds really are the future.

Speak for yourself, troll.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2011, 01:23:23 PM
But I am. ???
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 03, 2011, 01:24:16 PM
I'm just sick of seeing that exact sentence in almost every post of yours about your inability to enjoy console games.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2011, 01:26:31 PM
I play MvC3 at least one hour a day, so there's that.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: tiesto on March 03, 2011, 01:50:38 PM
I vastly prefer playing on my plasma, since playing on a handheld for too long strains my eyes (and hurts my back, I could never get comfortable while playing those devices)... unfortunately most of what I like is handheld-exclusive this gen.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 03, 2011, 01:54:24 PM
I wish I had a big-ass HDTV. All I have is a dinky 21" PC monitor :'(
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: archie4208 on March 03, 2011, 02:09:56 PM
:bow Playing hunched over a computer desk :bow2
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: SantaC on March 03, 2011, 02:20:35 PM
Nintendo needs to fire the guy in charge of the artstyle in Zelda because it looks as washed out as a bad VHS tape in the 80s.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 03, 2011, 02:28:27 PM
I'm just sick of seeing that exact sentence in almost every post of yours about your inability to enjoy console games.

himuro is allergic to production values :smug
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 03, 2011, 02:32:35 PM
I'm just sick of seeing that exact sentence in almost every post of yours about your inability to enjoy console games.

himuro is allergic to production values :smug


no kidding
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: magus on March 03, 2011, 07:27:59 PM
the game gear games that are getting released on the 3DS are

- Sonic and Tails 2
- Sonic Drift 2
- Columns
- The GG Shinobi
- Dragon Crystal: Shirani's Maze

toughts?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 03, 2011, 08:04:01 PM
I remember the GG Shinobi being awesome, but I'm indifferent about the rest.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: archie4208 on March 03, 2011, 08:10:44 PM
Where are the Shining Force games? 
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: The Sceneman on March 03, 2011, 08:15:56 PM
why the FUCK would you play Game Gear Columns when you could play Meteos or something else much better on 3DS.

They could have at least put up some decent GG shit like Mickey Mouse Castle of Illusion or something. Our Nintendo eh. I wonder how much these piles of shit will run for? $7?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 03, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
Knowing Nintendo they will probably go for $10.  :/
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 03, 2011, 08:45:10 PM
I'd be surprised if they charge more than $5. Well not surprised, but that's how I high I'm willing to pay.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 03, 2011, 08:50:39 PM
I'm gonna post this here since we've been name dropping Infinity Blade a few times:

Quote
Epic Games has been ‘hugely successful’ with the iOS title Infinity Blade. Epic vice president Mark Rein says that Infinity Blade has greatly surpassed Shadow Complex in terms of sales figures.

While Rein did not specifically state sales figures or number of downloads for Infinity Blade, the figures help give a perspective. Infinity Blade is offered at $5.99 while Shadow Complex goes for $15. If Infinity Blade has surpassed Shadow Complex, then at the very least the title has surpassed the 545K units displayed on Shadow Complex’s leaderboards.

Doesn't specify whether it's revenues or units but dayum, son.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 03, 2011, 08:52:54 PM
The SWERY panel was magnificent. Watch for the fallout soon
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 03, 2011, 09:00:19 PM
Where are the Shining Force games? 

There was only one Shining Force released in the States on Game Gear... not worth the effort
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: iconoclast on March 03, 2011, 09:29:17 PM
Quote
Epic vice president Mark Rein says that Infinity Blade has greatly surpassed Shadow Complex in terms of sales figures.

But did it make more money than Shadow Complex? I sure hope it didn't.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 03, 2011, 11:00:31 PM
3ds vc needs nes,genesis,snes,turbographx16, wonderswan, neogeo, neogeopocketcolor, gba and virtual boy stuff. Basically anything that could run. 
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: iconoclast on March 03, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
wonderswan

And they could have its entire library of good games just by getting Judgment Silversword up
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 03, 2011, 11:29:19 PM
Tails Adventure
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 04, 2011, 01:45:44 AM
MK2

No Baraka
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 04, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
Sho Nuff I saw the pic with you and SWERY... so jealous. SWERY is such a happy guy it seems, I love his tweets of him meeting all the various devs.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 01:08:08 PM
did you see the SWERY interview on GiantBomb?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: demi on March 04, 2011, 01:08:43 PM
Did I see Ryan Davis sitting all fat and slovenly for 10 minutes? Yes, yes I did.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 01:12:40 PM
:lol
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 04, 2011, 01:20:19 PM
SWERY was giving out individually numbered business cards.

HELL YES.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5496971655_c85d24d07d_b.jpg)
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 01:22:46 PM
:bow
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 04, 2011, 01:24:54 PM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/mvt8ya.jpg)

Fucking awesome presentation. I uploaded his slides here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcwild/sets/72157626070179461/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcwild/sets/72157626070179461/)
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 04, 2011, 01:29:00 PM
That's...actually really amazing.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 01:37:02 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5496959733_04c2e3ab3a_b.jpg)
:bow
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 04:10:47 PM
Is there any video of the developer micro-talks or any of the conferences in GDC?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Diunx on March 04, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
Who are you guys talking about? Has he made any cool games?
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 04:53:35 PM
Who are you guys talking about? Has he made any cool games?

Director of Deadly Premonition.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 04, 2011, 05:42:05 PM
the coolest game
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Trent Dole on March 04, 2011, 05:47:12 PM
Wow, Swery's a goddamn genius. :bow
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 05:56:47 PM
Seriously. Now I'm dying to play some DP.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: iconoclast on March 04, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
I hate it when games don't motivate me to continue playing after I clear a chapter. That's like the most basic shit ever and yet so many developers fail at doing it.

:bow SWERY

I gotta start my 2nd Deadly Premonition run soon.
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 05:59:30 PM
I hate it when games don't motivate me to continue playing after I clear a chapter. That's like the most basic shit ever and yet so many developers fail at doing it.

This makes going back and playing DMC games really, REALLY hard. Also, what does Swery think of MGS4's 30 minute installation intermissions? :rofl
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 04, 2011, 06:08:01 PM
thanks for the NEW AVATAR
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 04, 2011, 06:48:59 PM
I hate it when games don't motivate me to continue playing after I clear a chapter. That's like the most basic shit ever and yet so many developers fail at doing it.

This makes going back and playing DMC games really, REALLY hard. Also, what does Swery think of MGS4's 30 minute installation intermissions? :rofl

Dude, at the Q&A someone asked him about what he thinks of Metal Gear. He replied "I liked MGS 2!"
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Damian79 on March 04, 2011, 07:54:25 PM
Retro says they would like to revive doki doki panic(AKA SMB2).  Retro does what Nintendont.


http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/115/1153582p1.html


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Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong Country Returns developer Retro Studios held a panel discussion at GDC 2011 called "Donkey Kong: Swinging Across Oceans" in which Michael Kelbaugh, Bryan Walker, Kensuke Tanabe, Aaron Walker, Will Bate, Ryan Powell and Chris Volman -- all sporting red Donkey Kong ties -- discussed the development of some of Nintendo's biggest franchises. Here are some highlights from the panel:

•One unlikely game Retro Studios studied while planning Donkey Kong Country Returns was Wario Land for the Virtual Boy -- specifically the separated platforming planes which allowed Wario to switch between background and foreground.
•After working on dark sci-fi environments for nearly a decade, the design team would occasionally create something that looked too Metroid, but Donkey Kong Country had to be "fun and whimsical," a mantra much repeated during development, so many initial designs were tossed out.
•With production finished on Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Retro first brought up the idea of working on a Donkey Kong game but were told to make Metroid Prime 3 instead. Kensuke Tanabe said, "We wanted to depend on Retro to make games we couldn't [in Japan]."
•The wave level, in which tidal waves rise from the background to smash into the screen, took a long time to program. Estimates from the panel of Retro developers ranged from "months" to (hopefully jokingly) "years."
•Shigeru Miyamoto the creator of Donkey Kong, who Retro refers to fondly as "Master Yoda," told the US developers, "Donkey Kong is my baby and you better get it right!"
•The Super Guide feature which helps lackluster players complete levels was also used to test and record bugs.
•Many bugs came from players running back to the left instead of constantly running to the right; Michael Kelbaugh joked, "We were going to make an addition to the manual that said 'Don't go left.'"
•Satoru Iwata, president and CEO of Nintendo, told the Retro team "I am looking forward to playing this product with my family and having fun." They checked in with him after the game's release and he confirmed that his wish came true.
•After simply running back and forth for ten minutes and watching the animations of Donkey Kong turning around, Shigeru Miyamoto told Retro that it seemed like Donkey Kong was "blowing" when he created dust clouds. The "blow" mechanic used in Donkey Kong Country Returns was born from this off-handed remark.
•After showing a few levels at E3 in the summer of 2010, the team still had to make about 70 more before the game's release in November.
 

Bonus Factoid!

•Retro (facetiously) claimed that a classic Nintendo game they would like to revive next would be Doki Doki Panic (which was Kensuke Tanabe's first game, and eventually became Super Mario Bros. 2). Members of the panel also joked that they would like to make "Pokemon Prime" and/or work with (infamous Legend of Zelda character) Tingle.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 04, 2011, 08:55:54 PM
True but i wish that they are making it.  :/
Title: Re: GDC stuff
Post by: Raban on March 04, 2011, 11:11:14 PM
I hate it when games don't motivate me to continue playing after I clear a chapter. That's like the most basic shit ever and yet so many developers fail at doing it.

This makes going back and playing DMC games really, REALLY hard. Also, what does Swery think of MGS4's 30 minute installation intermissions? :rofl

Dude, at the Q&A someone asked him about what he thinks of Metal Gear. He replied "I liked MGS 2!"

:bow