the xbox hasn't had a exclusive in months and months so no one will care.
Btw 3DS or Vita doesn't count!
RAGE
RAGE
Borderlands 2
Lord of the Rings: War of the North will bomb because its a Western RPG not published by Bethesda.
Deus Ex 3 will bomb because just because that series always does.
Lord of the Rings is a rpg not a brawler?
RAGE
:lol @ Gears bombingpicture that with a kodak
Lord of the Rings is a rpg not a brawler?
Dragon Age: Origins was a brawler?
And Duke Nukem Forever was the biggest bomba this year, so far, not that anyone is really surprised. But the 12 years of development, the money poured into it, and the legacy it was built on meant that selling as poorly as it did make is nothing more than bomba-city.Actually, I'm pretty sure that Take2 was pleased with their Duke performance (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6320368/more-duke-nukem-coming?tag=result%3Btitle%3B4). They were only on the hook for at best 18 months of development of a mostly finished game, and as anyone can tell you who played the finished product, expense was obviously spared.
And Duke Nukem Forever was the biggest bomba this year, so far, not that anyone is really surprised. But the 12 years of development, the money poured into it, and the legacy it was built on meant that selling as poorly as it did make is nothing more than bomba-city.Actually, I'm pretty sure that Take2 was pleased with their Duke performance (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6320368/more-duke-nukem-coming?tag=result%3Btitle%3B4). They were only on the hook for at best 18 months of development of a mostly finished game, and as anyone can tell you who played the finished product, expense was obviously spared.
So the game didn't turn out to be a earth-shaking blockbuster, but its selling much better then most shit games ever do.
Am I the only one that thinks that Call of Duty has plaueaued? I'm sure MW3 will be huge, but I don't think it can be bigger then Black Ops, specially since its quite possible to be a big step down quality wise.
Serious Sam 3 will tank because its not 20 bucks anymore.
Deus Ex 3 will bomb because just because that series always does.
Lord of the Rings: War of the North will bomb because its a Western RPG not published by Bethesda.
I thought "bomba" meant huge news dropping? Not "which big game does your fanboy-sense think will flop at retail"
Shadows of the Damned
I think that Rage won't bomb. These days about any fps with decent advertising does well. Look what happened to Brink.
Yes, but Brink sucked, hence the drop off. Bulletstorm also had zero marketing.
You don't think Rage won't have solid marketing?
Catherine or some obscure Japanese-developed PSP game...
A week after its release, Catherine has already become Atlus' biggest launch title ever. The game has shipped the most units at launch of any Atlus game in the company's history.
"Catherine has exceeded our highest expectations," said Tim Pivnicny, VP of Sales and Marketing at Atlus in a statement given to IGN. "It released last week to tremendous critical acclaim and fan response, bolstered by the release of a demo a couple weeks prior, and continues to generate discussion among fans for its mature themes, engrossing subject matter, and frantic, challenging gameplay.
"It is fitting, then, that Catherine can boast the largest launch in the 20-year history of Atlus, and continues to see strong sales at retail."
Atlus could not provide exact sales numbers at this time. Catherine launched in North America on July 26 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.
Catherine or some obscure Japanese-developed PSP game...
A true bomba in North America has to be something with tons of mainstream hype and marketing, yet completely fails. Like Duke Nukem Forever.
edit: Lookee here...QuoteA week after its release, Catherine has already become Atlus' biggest launch title ever. The game has shipped the most units at launch of any Atlus game in the company's history.
"Catherine has exceeded our highest expectations," said Tim Pivnicny, VP of Sales and Marketing at Atlus in a statement given to IGN. "It released last week to tremendous critical acclaim and fan response, bolstered by the release of a demo a couple weeks prior, and continues to generate discussion among fans for its mature themes, engrossing subject matter, and frantic, challenging gameplay.
"It is fitting, then, that Catherine can boast the largest launch in the 20-year history of Atlus, and continues to see strong sales at retail."
Atlus could not provide exact sales numbers at this time. Catherine launched in North America on July 26 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.
You think Saints Row The Third will bomb but Uncharted won't? Saints Row 2 sold more than Uncharted 2 :lol
Twisted Metal.
Nobody cares about this game.
Saints Row wont bomb, if anything it will be Assasins Creed that will suffer slighty in that group. They'll both probably do ok but not up to their publishers lofty expectations. I don't see Rayman origins doing well but I don't think there's the expectations on it either.
Comparing Rage and Brink is foolish as well, Brink launched in May with almost no competition.
Saint's Row 3 was hardly at E3 though. It had the CG trailer and a gameplay video (whereas other games had live demos, or a playable demo for the public). And I think THQ is having its problems with the Homefront studio closing and the Red Faction bomb (as in the whole ip). There is Space Hammer coming before Saint's Row, but who knows how that will fare. It looks fun, at least. I watched the giantbomb quick look earlier and there are jetpacks and giant hammers.
the sales of the new Wipeout for Vita in Japan.
What was the figure for Wipeout Pure ? It was the worst selling PSP game of all time with 286 copies at one point.
Japan just don't want it.
Shadows of the Damned
I don't think it's "big" enough to be a bomba.
I'd go with Duke Nukem Forever.
I'd bet on Twisted Metal. I dunno about Rage, but it is releasing on the same day as Dark Souls so I prob won't get it for a while.
Catherine just came out. It's hardly drought central. :bow
Catherine can be beaten in like two afternoons. :piss
That reminds me that Zelda Skyward Sword still doesn't have an official release date :lol"Holiday 2011"
That reminds me that Zelda Skyward Sword still doesn't have an official release date :lol
I will be voting for the entire Wii catalog again this year.
I will be voting for the entire Wii catalog again this year.
Nintendo would have to actually release something for it to bomba.
I will be voting for the entire Wii catalog again this year.
Nintendo would have to actually release something for it to bomba.
looking at nintendos release schedule = crickets
what the hell did they do with all the profit from the DS and Wii?
I will be voting for the entire Wii catalog again this year.
Nintendo would have to actually release something for it to bomba.
looking at nintendos release schedule = crickets
what the hell did they do with all the profit from the DS and Wii?
They're swimming in it. Much more fun than making games.
I will be voting for the entire Wii catalog again this year.
Nintendo would have to actually release something for it to bomba.
looking at nintendos release schedule = crickets
what the hell did they do with all the profit from the DS and Wii?
They're swimming in it. Much more fun than making games.
obviously. And I was a nintendo fanboy. But I have lost interest.
3DS :teehee
Doom 4 "Indefinitely Postponed" Following RAGE’s Disappointing Launch
A source claiming to be close to the publishers of the recently-launched RAGE has told Kotaku that, at a recent "company wide" meeting held in Dallas, Bethesda and parent company Zenimax made the decision to "indefinitely postpone" development of Doom 4.
Despite having been first announced back in 2008, Doom 4 has been on the backburner at developers id while work was completed on multiplatform shooter RAGE, which was released earlier this month to decidedly mixed reviews. While Crecente enjoyed it (and I'm digging it as well), the game's repetitive nature and numerous technical issues left it falling well short of many people's expectations.
The apparent source says that Zenimax and Bethesda made the decision based on the "the issues and reviews" surrounding RAGE's launch, which in their eyes has demonstrated "a serious lack of confidence in the project management at id".
Remember that, before you get too invested in this, at the moment the news is entirely unconfirmed. We've contacted Bethesda for comment and clarification, and will update if we hear back.
Would've bought Rage if they had said it meant the difference between more Doom and no Doom.If the rumour is even true what most likely is the case is that Bethesda would want to "fix" id before they commit to pumping more dollars into them. There will be a Doom 4. The problem is they've never fixed the design deficiencies and production issues at that company. Rage took a very long time for a game that isn't completely awesome (it's okay I mean). Gone are the days most likely where Carmack can take forever building an engine and they just slap a game into place around it. This ain't the 90's anymore. It costs too much. Especially if they aren't going to make licensing money off it like Unreal or Crytek.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Gears of War 3
I don't think anyone cares about gears anymore, and the xbox hasn't had a exclusive in months and months so no one will care.
Are there numbers yet for how badly RAGE did?
Having an engine and then tacking in gameplay, I don't think it's a fair assessment of what id's process is, or what it has brought to gaming in general. Historically, they were a tremendously innovative and disruptive force in games, with most other companies falling over themselves to ape id's moves.Would've bought Rage if they had said it meant the difference between more Doom and no Doom.If the rumour is even true what most likely is the case is that Bethesda would want to "fix" id before they commit to pumping more dollars into them. There will be a Doom 4. The problem is they've never fixed the design deficiencies and production issues at that company. Rage took a very long time for a game that isn't completely awesome (it's okay I mean). Gone are the days most likely where Carmack can take forever building an engine and they just slap a game into place around it. This ain't the 90's anymore. It costs too much. Especially if they aren't going to make licensing money off it like Unreal or Crytek.
Also the multiplayer they put in Rage was stupid. Idiotic idea. You take all this time to build a 60 fps console first person combat engine and then make the mp off of the weakest part of the game. The car racing. Not sound management.
I hope so; I suspect operating within stricter boundaries may be an interesting and hopefully fruitful challenge for their design staff. Or their next design staff.Are there numbers yet for how badly RAGE did?
I saw something like 500k worldwide after the first couple weeks, not sure how reliable that is though.
Edit: Like Stoney said, there's almost certainly going to be a Doom 4, it's just going to be on Bethesda's timeline rather than id's.
I think at this stage he's just incapable of change. He enjoys his life and he's not likely to suddenly be up for radical re-invention and process. As you get older you tend to get more set in your ways not less.
This isn't that uncommon. It happens to lots of leading figures in the game industry over history,
again i have to point out his own brother couldn't suffer his bullshit anymore
i've heard people use a million words to describe john carmack and 'flexible' isn't one of them
i wouldn't call him senile at all.
he does very clearly suffer from a not-insignificant social disorder, however. 'crotchety' would imply that his social inadequacies are as a result of aging. they're not. he's always been this way.
again i have to point out his own brother couldn't suffer his bullshit anymore
i've heard people use a million words to describe john carmack and 'flexible' isn't one of them
i wouldn't call him senile at all.
he does very clearly suffer from a not-insignificant social disorder, however. 'crotchety' would imply that his social inadequacies are as a result of aging. they're not. he's always been this way.
Getting into semantics isn't really going to get anywhere. My point is that recent events show that he's not completely stuck in his ways.
And Adrian Carmack isn't John Carmack's brother, they're not related at all.
I just want to say that all these japanophiles at GAF with anime avatars claiming MW3 is going to bomb are in for a Rude Awakening.
It's all about Tim Sweeney now.
I just want to say that all these japanophiles at GAF with anime avatars claiming MW3 is going to bomb are in for a Rude Awakening.
I just want to say that all these japanophiles at GAF with anime avatars claiming MW3 is going to bomb are in for a Rude Awakening.
I just want to say that all these japanophiles at GAF with anime avatars claiming MW3 is going to bomb are in for a Rude Awakening.
They're idiots, but why do they even care? Are they that butthurt about Panty Panty Animu Sorcery isn't getting localized?
I just want to say that all these japanophiles at GAF with anime avatars claiming MW3 is going to bomb are in for a Rude Awakening.
They're idiots, but why do they even care? Are they that butthurt about Panty Panty Animu Sorcery isn't getting localized?
If it weren't for Modern Warfare being so popular, then surely it would mean more obscure JRPGs being localized!!
I'll always enjoy being on forums but the people who tend to inhabit them (especially at GAF) have lost all sense of what mainstream normal people actually like.
Which is fine. On a messageboard you can discuss whatever you want including whatever niche tastes you have. That's the whole point of them. But nobody is more insufferable than delusional people who then whine about why their niche tastes aren't mainstream.
Getting into semantics isn't really going to get anywhere. My point is that recent events show that he's not completely stuck in his ways.
And Adrian Carmack isn't John Carmack's brother, they're not related at all.
hunh. well, fair beans, I didn't know that one at all. I guess he wasn't obnoxious enough to chase away a family member, just all of his friends and colleagues.
Kevin Cloud joined in 1992, Tim Willits in 1995, and Todd Hollenshead in 1996. Matt Hooper's been there about ten years.Getting into semantics isn't really going to get anywhere. My point is that recent events show that he's not completely stuck in his ways.
And Adrian Carmack isn't John Carmack's brother, they're not related at all.
hunh. well, fair beans, I didn't know that one at all. I guess he wasn't obnoxious enough to chase away a family member, just all of his friends and colleagues.
Kevin Cloud joined in 1992, Tim Willits in 1995, and Todd Hollenshead in 1996. Matt Hooper's been there about ten years.Getting into semantics isn't really going to get anywhere. My point is that recent events show that he's not completely stuck in his ways.
And Adrian Carmack isn't John Carmack's brother, they're not related at all.
hunh. well, fair beans, I didn't know that one at all. I guess he wasn't obnoxious enough to chase away a family member, just all of his friends and colleagues.
and adrian worked alongside him damn near 20 years; i'm sure he didn't quit because of some kind of pent-up rage he was holding for TWO DECADES
I'll always enjoy being on forums but the people who tend to inhabit them (especially at GAF) have lost all sense of what mainstream normal people actually like.
Which is fine. On a messageboard you can discuss whatever you want including whatever niche tastes you have. That's the whole point of them. But nobody is more insufferable than delusional people who then whine about why their niche tastes aren't mainstream.
Not saying its going to bomb in the traditional sense but I haven't heard any regular person I know talk about Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary. Even on forums very few are talking about it. I mean the Halo fan base is big enough so that it will do well no matter what but its surprising to me, the lack of hype or interest this title is driving. Maybe I'm just missing it though...There's no hype because it's just a remake of the campaign without the multiplayer. Who cares.
Not saying its going to bomb in the traditional sense but I haven't heard any regular person I know talk about Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary. Even on forums very few are talking about it. I mean the Halo fan base is big enough so that it will do well no matter what but its surprising to me, the lack of hype or interest this title is driving. Maybe I'm just missing it though...There's no hype because it's just a remake of the campaign without the multiplayer. Who cares.
Not saying its going to bomb in the traditional sense but I haven't heard any regular person I know talk about Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary. Even on forums very few are talking about it. I mean the Halo fan base is big enough so that it will do well no matter what but its surprising to me, the lack of hype or interest this title is driving. Maybe I'm just missing it though...There's no hype because it's just a remake of the campaign without the multiplayer. Who cares.
Wait there's no multi!. Not even coop?
Well I thought ODST was crap. Also had no multiplayer. And was 60 bucks to boot as in a rip-off. And that still seemed to generate a level of attention.