What will be the years biggest bomba?

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It's almost that time when big games start coming out, what according to you will the biggest bomba?

For me Star Wars Knight Of The Old Republic.
It will sell good in the beginning, then people will discover it's just WoW and go back to WoW. EA have sunk like what, 200 million into this?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Bioware is at risk of getting shut down if Knights bombs. I think the biggest bomba will be:

Gears of War 3

I don't think anyone cares about gears anymore, and the xbox hasn't had a exclusive in months and months so no one will care.

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Well that new Bioware studio that they opened just to make it yeah.

You for real bout Gears? I don't think it can fail. Maybe, maybe do worse, but not a bomba man.

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Btw 3DS or Vita doesn't count!

[Great Rumbler]

Gears of War 3 may not sell as well as the previous game in the series, but I think it'll still sell a lot.

The Old Republic though...man, the bomba potential there is huge.

the xbox hasn't had a exclusive in months and months so no one will care.

Isn't that all the more reason that people will care?

[archie4208]

RAGE

[magus]

Btw 3DS or Vita doesn't count!

Mario 3D Land

[maxy]

Gears bomba?
Are you crazy methodis?

MS announced like 2 months ago that Gears 3 has surpassed one million pre-orders.

If Gears 3 bombs then all Sony exclusives(past and future)=bomba bomba bomba....boom...bomba bomba bomba...

This fall bomba=Rage

[Great Rumbler]

RAGE

Yeah, I just don't know how Rage is gonna do. Borderlands and Fallout 3/New Vegas did really well, but Rage has been in development for ages and the initial hype has long since burned away. On the other hand, it's id's first in-house game since Doom 3 and their first new IP in ages, those might count for something. It does look pretty cool, too. But...yeah...I just don't have very high expectations for it sale-wise.

[Eel O'Brian]

RAGE

FalloutLands

BorderFall

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Rage could pull Duke Nukem numbers. To most new gamers I think ID is as obscure as the Duke.

[demi]

RAGE just got pushed aside at news of Borderlands 2 announcement

[Beezy]

  @ Gears bombing

[Great Rumbler]

Borderlands 2

Which probably won't be out until at least Holiday 2012.

[The Sceneman]

I thought "bomba" meant huge news dropping? Not "which big game does your fanboy-sense think will flop at retail"

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Don't you mean Megaton?

[Joe Molotov]

Shadows of the Damned

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

Am I the only one that thinks that Call of Duty has plaueaued?  I'm sure MW3 will be huge, but I don't think it can be bigger then Black Ops, specially since its quite possible to be a big step down quality wise.

Serious Sam 3 will tank because its not 20 bucks anymore.
Deus Ex 3 will bomb because just because that series always does.
Lord of the Rings: War of the North will bomb because its a Western RPG not published by Bethesda.

[Great Rumbler]

Lord of the Rings: War of the North will bomb because its a Western RPG not published by Bethesda.

Bioware?

Deus Ex 3 will bomb because just because that series always does.

The first two both sold over a million copies.

And Duke Nukem Forever was the biggest bomba this year, so far, not that anyone is really surprised. But the 12 years of development, the money poured into it, and the legacy it was built on meant that selling as poorly as it did make is nothing more than bomba-city.

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Lord of the Rings is a rpg not a brawler?

[Great Rumbler]

Lord of the Rings is a rpg not a brawler?

Dragon Age: Origins was a brawler?

[Stoney Mason]

RAGE

Good choice. I don't think regular people know or care about this title even though it looks kinda hot. Lol at people responding to methodis trolling. Gears 3 will sell in line with the previous installments.

[Beezy]

@ Gears bombing

picture that with a kodak

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Lord of the Rings is a rpg not a brawler?

Dragon Age: Origins was a brawler?

DA2 was 

I havent seen anything about LOTR but I assumed all the LOTR rpg's got canned.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

And Duke Nukem Forever was the biggest bomba this year, so far, not that anyone is really surprised. But the 12 years of development, the money poured into it, and the legacy it was built on meant that selling as poorly as it did make is nothing more than bomba-city.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Take2 was pleased with their Duke performance.  They were only on the hook for at best 18 months of development of a mostly finished game, and as anyone can tell you who played the finished product, expense was obviously spared.

So the game didn't turn out to be a earth-shaking blockbuster, but its selling much better then most shit games ever do.

[Great Rumbler]

And Duke Nukem Forever was the biggest bomba this year, so far, not that anyone is really surprised. But the 12 years of development, the money poured into it, and the legacy it was built on meant that selling as poorly as it did make is nothing more than bomba-city.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Take2 was pleased with their Duke performance.  They were only on the hook for at best 18 months of development of a mostly finished game, and as anyone can tell you who played the finished product, expense was obviously spared.

So the game didn't turn out to be a earth-shaking blockbuster, but its selling much better then most shit games ever do.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/35674/Take_Two_Estimates_Lowered_After_Disappointing_Duke_Sales.php

[Stoney Mason]

Am I the only one that thinks that Call of Duty has plaueaued?  I'm sure MW3 will be huge, but I don't think it can be bigger then Black Ops, specially since its quite possible to be a big step down quality wise.

Serious Sam 3 will tank because its not 20 bucks anymore.
Deus Ex 3 will bomb because just because that series always does.
Lord of the Rings: War of the North will bomb because its a Western RPG not published by Bethesda.

Everything has to peak eventally but MW 3 will have monster sales no matter what. Whether that is greater numbers than Black Ops we will see.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I thought "bomba" meant huge news dropping? Not "which big game does your fanboy-sense think will flop at retail"

megaton = huge news dropping
bomba = huge sales failure

[Himu]

I think that Rage won't bomb. These days about any fps with decent advertising does well. Look what happened to Brink.

[Diunx]

lol rage isn't out yet?

[Mr. Gundam]

Shadows of the Damned

I don't think it's "big" enough to be a bomba.

I'd go with Duke Nukem Forever.

[Stoney Mason]

I think that Rage won't bomb. These days about any fps with decent advertising does well. Look what happened to Brink.

It sold decently for one month and then completely disappeared probably permanently damaging the future potential of the franchise. See bulletstorm for example which wasn't profitable. As budgets go up especially with advertising, the break even point also goes up.

[Himu]

Yes, but Brink sucked, hence the drop off. Bulletstorm also had zero marketing.

You don't think Rage won't have solid marketing?

[Great Rumbler]

Rage is Bethesda's second-biggest game this year [behind Skyrim], I'm sure they'll start rolling out the advertisements in a few weeks.

[Stoney Mason]

Yes, but Brink sucked, hence the drop off. Bulletstorm also had zero marketing.

You don't think Rage won't have solid marketing?

I think Rage should do better than both brink and bulletstorm but whether that's big enough to meet the budget or establish rage as an important franchise is a separate debate which time will tell. I don't see a lot of non-forum types excited about rage currently.

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Difference between Brink and Bulletstorm is huge.

While Bulletstorm failed to profit, it received good scores and feedback generally creating goodwill towards its name, its dev and its publisher. Hence Epic saying they don't care People Can Fly will do more shit.

Brink was a total fuckup.

Rage will surely sell ok, but will it be a huge hit? Don't think so. I don't really know how big ID is and how they make money nowadays. I mean they must have a super small team, since their last game that they developed themselves is Doom 3, form 2004. According to a 2008 article Doom 3 sold like 3.5 million copies (which according to Wiki is their most succesfull project to date!!!).

[tiesto]

Catherine or some obscure Japanese-developed PSP game...

[Mr. Gundam]

Catherine or some obscure Japanese-developed PSP game...

A true bomba in North America has to be something with tons of mainstream hype and marketing, yet completely fails. Like Duke Nukem Forever.

edit: Lookee here...

A week after its release, Catherine has already become Atlus' biggest launch title ever. The game has shipped the most units at launch of any Atlus game in the company's history.

"Catherine has exceeded our highest expectations," said Tim Pivnicny, VP of Sales and Marketing at Atlus in a statement given to IGN. "It released last week to tremendous critical acclaim and fan response, bolstered by the release of a demo a couple weeks prior, and continues to generate discussion among fans for its mature themes, engrossing subject matter, and frantic, challenging gameplay.

"It is fitting, then, that Catherine can boast the largest launch in the 20-year history of Atlus, and continues to see strong sales at retail."

Atlus could not provide exact sales numbers at this time. Catherine launched in North America on July 26 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

[demi]

uh, duke nukem was forever a bomba. how does that even count? get real. the fact is we finally got to play the damn thing.

[cool breeze]

November(not a complete list):
-1
Uncharted 3
Sonic Generations

-Week of 8
Modern Warfare 3
Skyrim

-15
NFS The Runs
Assassin's Creed Revelations
Halo Anniversary
Saint's Row 3
Rayman Origin


therefore, Saint's Row 3.

also, X-Men Desinty and that Resident Evil SOCOM game

[Himu]

You think Saints Row The Third will bomb but Uncharted won't? Saints Row 2 sold more than Uncharted 2

[tiesto]

Catherine or some obscure Japanese-developed PSP game...

A true bomba in North America has to be something with tons of mainstream hype and marketing, yet completely fails. Like Duke Nukem Forever.

edit: Lookee here...

A week after its release, Catherine has already become Atlus' biggest launch title ever. The game has shipped the most units at launch of any Atlus game in the company's history.

"Catherine has exceeded our highest expectations," said Tim Pivnicny, VP of Sales and Marketing at Atlus in a statement given to IGN. "It released last week to tremendous critical acclaim and fan response, bolstered by the release of a demo a couple weeks prior, and continues to generate discussion among fans for its mature themes, engrossing subject matter, and frantic, challenging gameplay.

"It is fitting, then, that Catherine can boast the largest launch in the 20-year history of Atlus, and continues to see strong sales at retail."

Atlus could not provide exact sales numbers at this time. Catherine launched in North America on July 26 for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

Oh wow, good to hear that it did well. Always happy when a small, fan-oriented company that makes awesome games gets good sales.

In that case, I have no idea, since I don't really pay attention to what games have been getting mainstream hype. Is there another Halo coming out? If so, maybe that one... seems like people are sick of Halo by now.

[cool breeze]

You think Saints Row The Third will bomb but Uncharted won't? Saints Row 2 sold more than Uncharted 2

you're free to find data to back up your claim, but that's probably incorrect.  also, Saint's Row 2 was on multiple platforms, and it wasn't competing against Call of Duty, Ass.Creed, Halo, and a new large Bethesda RPG.

not to mention the bomb of Volition's other recent title (and cancellation of the brand).  there are a lot of factors working against saint's row 3.

as for Uncharted, uh, who cares

[Great Rumbler]

Saints Row 2 and Uncharted 2 both sold around three and half million, with a slight edge to the latter. I don't really see Saints Row 3 bombing, especially with how Volition is stepping up their game.

[Stoney Mason]

Twisted Metal.

Nobody cares about this game.

Also another good pick

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Twisted Metal will be the year's biggest bomba.  Nothing will even come close.

It's an installment nobody wants in a crusty old franchise that nobody has given a fuck about in nearly 15 years.  It'll end up as one of the numerous high budget flops that Sony has experienced so far this generation.  What makes it the biggest bomba is that you know Sony will advertise the fuck out of the game, hoping that people still give a shit about Sweet Tooth or whoever the fuck the ICP-like clown car is called.

The key differentiators between DNF and Twisted Metal is that some people wanted DNF to finally get released, if only to close the book on probably gaming's biggest clusterfuck.  Nobody wants Twisted Metal by comparison.

[Mr. Gundam]

Twisted Metal is a good pick. That's going to bomba like no bomba has ever bomba'd before.

[Brehvolution]

Bomba or not, I'll be getting Twisted Metal day one.

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just like LAIR  :'(

[close]

I feel bad for the old PS3. I haven't bought anything for it since GOW3 in March of last year.

[cool breeze]

wait, Twisted Metal is big budget? it doesn't seem like anybody has any aspirations for it.

The game looks fun, though.  I'll pick it up eventually.  I'm 61% certain it will be recycled and re-purposed as a Vita game.  At least that's what they should do.

[pilonv1]

Saints Row wont bomb, if anything it will be Assasins Creed that will suffer slighty in that group. They'll both probably do ok but not up to their publishers lofty expectations. I don't see Rayman origins doing well but I don't think there's the expectations on it either.

Comparing Rage and Brink is foolish as well, Brink launched in May with almost no competition.

[AdmiralViscen]

I want twisted metal but i will wait for the price crash

[cool breeze]

Saints Row wont bomb, if anything it will be Assasins Creed that will suffer slighty in that group. They'll both probably do ok but not up to their publishers lofty expectations. I don't see Rayman origins doing well but I don't think there's the expectations on it either.

Comparing Rage and Brink is foolish as well, Brink launched in May with almost no competition.

I think Assassin's Creed did well last year against Black Ops, and it was only a year after AC2.  AssCreed is Ubisoft's big franchise, Call of Duty is Activision's biggest, Bethesda games have always done great, Halo game is a Halo game, and Rayman is a completely difference audience (and it's on the Wii).  I don't know if THQ wants or thinks Saint's Row is its big franchise, but it's not the best time to test that theory.

I'm hoping Saint's Row 3 does well since it and Skyrim are the games I know I'm buying from that list.

[Himu]

Saints Row The Third seems to be the franchise THQ wants to push looking at E3.

[cool breeze]

Saint's Row 3 was hardly at E3 though.  It had the CG trailer and a gameplay video (whereas other games had live demos, or a playable demo for the public).  And I think THQ is having its problems with the Homefront studio closing and the Red Faction bomb (as in the whole ip).  There is Space Hammer coming before Saint's Row, but who knows how that will fare.  It looks fun, at least.  I watched the giantbomb quick look earlier and there are jetpacks and giant hammers.

Hopefully it gets good results and THQ has more money to spent on hos and blow for Itagaki.  What's left over can go to Patrice Desilets.

and completely unrelated:  did anyone else read about how Square-Enix picked up that cancelled True Crime game? how exciting

[Himu]

Saint's Row 3 was hardly at E3 though.  It had the CG trailer and a gameplay video (whereas other games had live demos, or a playable demo for the public).  And I think THQ is having its problems with the Homefront studio closing and the Red Faction bomb (as in the whole ip).  There is Space Hammer coming before Saint's Row, but who knows how that will fare.  It looks fun, at least.  I watched the giantbomb quick look earlier and there are jetpacks and giant hammers.

Saints Row The Third had a gameplay demo, on the floor. Our own shonuff even played it iirc.

THQ is advertising the fuck out of it.

SR3 E3 car wash:





They donned the show with SR3 shit:



At Comic Con they had the same E3 demo and Professor Genki getting in everyone's face:

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the sales of the new Wipeout for Vita in Japan.

What was the figure for Wipeout Pure ? It was the worst selling PSP game of all time with 286 copies at one point.

Japan just don't want it.

So weird, since the Wipeout look seems a fit for Japan, for me at least. Any ideas why?

[ch1nchilla]

Rage, definitely.

Also, I think Shadows of the Damned qualifies as a bomba since it was published by EA, but I guess it didn't have a very big marketing push. I'd like to think that Twisted Metal won't bomba, plan on buying day one. I think it looks good! Hopefully a couple other people out here in the honz will buy it for some multiplayer hotness.

[chronovore]

Shadows of the Damned

I don't think it's "big" enough to be a bomba.

I'd go with Duke Nukem Forever.

Honestly, this is a predictions thread. Calling out games which have already bombed is against da rulez.

Edit: I'm only curious about what this November's "murder row" will claim as its highest-profile faceplant.

Twisted Metal? I didn't even know a sequel was in the works. Sonic? Maybe. But neither of them is being sufficiently promoted to qualify.

Saints Row 3 will do fine, but it will suffer some from having to go head-to-head with the bro games.

Rage looks like a good bet to die in flames, sadly.

[naff]

I'd bet on Twisted Metal. I dunno about Rage, but it is releasing on the same day as Dark Souls so I prob won't get it for a while.

[The Sceneman]

I'd bet on Twisted Metal. I dunno about Rage, but it is releasing on the same day as Dark Souls so I prob won't get it for a while.

yeah, Rage could go either way. New FPS IPs have performed quite well this year (eg. Homefront, Brink) - I guess it shows that people want more than just Call of Duty.

November is crazy loaded though, decent games will tank due to the overload. Funny becuase right now it's drought central.