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Title: iPhone 4S
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 04, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
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Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: Mupepe on October 04, 2011, 12:46:14 PM
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Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: Rman on October 04, 2011, 12:47:17 PM
@Mupepe: The conference for the iPhone 5 reveal is scheduled for today.  10AM PDT

Sprint looks like they're getting it.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 04, 2011, 12:50:20 PM
I'd like a 5 reveal but it's looking only like a 4S.  5 next year.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: cool breeze on October 04, 2011, 12:50:26 PM
iPhone 4S is already basically confirmed.  Just a faster, better iPhone 4.

people are assuming the 4S and 5 will be announced.  5 will be larger, 4 inch screen, better camera, etc.  iPhone 4S is the lower end option.  iPhone 4 dropped to $99.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 04, 2011, 12:50:36 PM
iPhone 4S leaked, seems to be same shit, hope there is a companion model
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: Mupepe on October 04, 2011, 12:52:03 PM
Poor Tmobile doesn't get shit.  I'm switching anyways.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 04, 2011, 12:57:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/yIbuo.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/hYuhJ.png)

megaton
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 04, 2011, 12:58:05 PM
looks exactly the same as the verizon iphone
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: Brehvolution on October 04, 2011, 12:58:18 PM
Finally, a white one.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:teehee
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Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: MCD on October 04, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rSuIB.jpg)
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 04, 2011, 02:41:15 PM
fart. All the cool stuff is in software.

That stuff is pretty cool though. I am not in love with my Thunderbolt, I might switch over to this.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 04, 2011, 02:46:48 PM
The A5 and 8 MP camera along with Siri makes it worth an upgrade...when you can, at least.  People sacrificing their current contracts and paying the fees are dumb for this go around, especially if they have an iPhone 4.

Hopefully next June sees an iPhone 5 release, but that's looking unlikely now I suppose...my contract is up in February so I guess I'll be getting a 4S around then, unless there's a new Galaxy by then as well.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: Brehvolution on October 04, 2011, 02:49:13 PM
Wifey will want to upgrade since she takes a ton of photos. Pretty meh for me.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 04, 2011, 03:01:43 PM
I like the camera, stability, and the bluetooth support. The Thunderbolt is too glitchy. The only thing that kept me away from the iPhone in the past was its shit-ass notification system ripped from an enV3. I will get iOS5 on iPad next week and if it's as slick as it looks I will add a line to get a discounted iPhone and sell the Thunderbolt.

Oh and that Reminders app gives me a mega boner, as a former Palm guy.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 04, 2011, 03:05:29 PM
siri means 'ass' in japanese

just throwing that out there

when the moe-blob personal assistants came, did you really think we'd be talking to their faces?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: drew on October 04, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
i read this as iPhone 45
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 04, 2011, 04:25:15 PM
Still that tiny ass screen and no amoled. No expandanble memory. Galaxy S2 reigns supreme still.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Brehvolution on October 04, 2011, 04:29:20 PM
NOt getting the tiny ass screen hate. :???
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 04, 2011, 04:31:25 PM
I think it only applies after you had bigger  :-*

After that it just feels small.

Its kind of like psp versus ds.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: drew on October 04, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
wait they made the screen smaller? holy shit i might actually get this now.  my 3gs is huge with the otterbox on
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 04, 2011, 05:02:51 PM
It's the same screen size.  People want one of those atrocious 4.2 inch screens, blech.

3.7 would be fine for me.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 04, 2011, 05:15:26 PM
This is like ntards saying  Hd isnt needed. 4,2 inch fits in your pocket fine if you arent a midget.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 04, 2011, 05:18:37 PM
It's gigantic and awkward in my hand.  4 inches is pushing it.  The iPhone screen is perfectly fine for its size and interface.  3.7 would be nice, defeating some of the bezel.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 04, 2011, 05:44:44 PM
I think I'm gonna finally upgrade my 3GS. It's time.

The hardware bump is nice but I was hoping for more RAM (it's still 512, right?)

Siri is something I'm not sure about yet. I've no use for a woman who can't run a kitchen.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 04, 2011, 06:02:59 PM
I'd like to think they upped the RAM to 1 gig...but no one knows yet.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 04, 2011, 06:03:28 PM
Siri isn't new.  I don't understand why it was a big part of the keynote speech. 

I tried the app way back, It was rubbish.

They bought the company and supposedly revamped it since, so we'll see.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 04, 2011, 06:42:17 PM
So they didn't do jack shit to the iPod Touch except lop $30 off the 8GB and add a white version?  That's disappointing, I was thinking they'd at least bump up the sub-webcam camera.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: pilonv1 on October 04, 2011, 07:09:37 PM
No reason to upgrade for me. iPhone 5 must be a while off though :(
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 04, 2011, 07:25:59 PM
1GB RAM confirmed by several outlets. It shouldn't be too surprising, but skipping it during the keynote was kinda weird.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 04, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
Apple fans were saying that Apple never officially announces that spec for some reason
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: demi on October 04, 2011, 07:57:49 PM
Lack if Touch info is lame... still aiming for a 32GB Touch this black friday.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 04, 2011, 08:06:23 PM
Apple fans were saying that Apple never officially announces that spec for some reason

They went over it during the 3GS keynote, iirc. Then again I'm old and my memory is getting fuzzy.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 04, 2011, 08:14:45 PM
Actually I thought about getting this since my contract ends next month.

My biggest fear is that getting one will turn me into a pissy music major prone to hyperbole but I guess that's a risk I'm willing to take.
Title: Re: iPhone
Post by: chronovore on October 04, 2011, 08:22:53 PM
siri means 'ass' in japanese

just throwing that out there

I know a girl named Siri, this will be fun.


If it's a sibilant "s" it isn't phonetically equivalent. "si" in romanized Japanese is pronounced "shi" - so if her name's pronounced "shiri" you're good to go: make an ass of her.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on October 04, 2011, 08:28:02 PM
The 3GS was a nice bump from the 3G because the 3G seemed gimped right out of the gate, but this.....I don't know.  With the 4 being as capable as it is, someone's going to have to show me something substantial with the 4GS to prove it's worth my time.

And now that they're lowering prices on iphone 4 to as low as $99, I think it'd be silly to buy into this stop gap.

Wait 'til 5.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 04, 2011, 08:43:56 PM
I think I'll buy this

I've been using an old piece of shit since 2006.  This is a boosted and multi-service version of the iphone, so why not.  Might as well switch to Verizon too.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on October 04, 2011, 08:48:30 PM
When people buy a new iPhone every year, are they adding two years onto their contract every time?  So if you had a 2 year plan with the iPhone, the following year you got the iPhone 3G and now you have 3 years left on your contract, right?  Did the same with the 3GS a year later and now you have 4 years on your contract, and 5 years by the time you got the iPhone 4?  Is that right?

I've never screwed with my contract. I always got into that window where you could upgrade your phone and sign a two year contract without additional time being tacked on.

If I remember correctly, if you wanted to upgrade early without having enough time in you had to buy back your contract and then sign a 2 year deal.  So you weren't locked in for more time but you had to pay out of your ass if you didn't meet the early upgrade requirement.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 04, 2011, 08:50:02 PM
Lack if Touch info is lame... still aiming for a 32GB Touch this black friday.

there is no info, it's the exact same iPod Touch as last year just with a white version added
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 04, 2011, 08:51:47 PM
Rumors of a 3G iTouch was heavily circulating a few days ago, as well as other hardware changes. I'm disappoint.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 04, 2011, 08:55:05 PM
Carriers used to allow early upgrades after one year for a small fee, but those deals are pretty much gone
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 05, 2011, 03:32:44 PM
I'm confused by how buying a phone on contract works.  I've never actually done it before.

Basically, if I buy the iPhone 4S for $200, I can't leave AT&T or Verizon for 2 years? or upgrade to the iPhone 5 never year or whatever?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 05, 2011, 04:42:13 PM
http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2011/10/05/iphone-4s-siri-is-butt-of-jokes-in-japan.html?ana=twt
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: demi on October 05, 2011, 05:30:47 PM
Lack if Touch info is lame... still aiming for a 32GB Touch this black friday.

there is no info, it's the exact same iPod Touch as last year just with a white version added

I wanted more of a price drop.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 05, 2011, 10:44:53 PM
look, all you need to know is that it means '4 Steve'.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 06, 2011, 12:35:26 AM
look, all you need to know is that it means '4 Steve'.

:lol
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 06, 2011, 07:55:01 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Brehvolution on October 06, 2011, 08:38:41 AM
Perfect  :lol
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on October 06, 2011, 10:01:45 AM
I decided to get a 64GB iPhone 4S. Now to save up the money.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Barry Egan on October 06, 2011, 11:24:51 AM
look, all you need to know is that it means '4 Steve'.

 :lol
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 06, 2011, 12:48:08 PM
look, all you need to know is that it means '4 Steve'.

amazing
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Tucah on October 06, 2011, 03:34:11 PM
I have a barely functional 3GS right now so I'm really excited for the 4S as it's an enormous update over my phone now.

Can't wait until next Friday!
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 06, 2011, 04:40:27 PM
I have the 3G and I'm still wondering if I should wait.  Is there a name for my disorder?  I feel like if I get a new one the next one will be way better and I won't be able to get it for 2 years because of the contract.  :(

I think the "frog leap" rule in regards to phones any many electronics with yearly refreshes isn't a bad one. Just get the 4S, enjoy the screen and hardware upgrade over the 3G and laugh at people who upgrade yearly.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 06, 2011, 06:55:20 PM
I have the 3G and I'm still wondering if I should wait.  Is there a name for my disorder?  I feel like if I get a new one the next one will be way better and I won't be able to get it for 2 years because of the contract.  :(

I'm buying what people are saying about how the iPhone 5 will be the iPhone 4S with a different design including a larger screen.  I'm fine with that.

I just don't want to be locked out of apps because my phone isn't powerful enough.  Then in 2 years I'll get the 5S.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Groogrux on October 07, 2011, 10:41:40 AM
I may end up getting myself one of these for Christmas this year...
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 07, 2011, 10:53:20 AM
Factory unlocked models are coming to the US in November, so I'm holding out until then. Screw contracts and locked SIMs.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 07, 2011, 11:07:06 AM
The Factory unlocked 64GB version probably costs $800-$1000 :lol :(
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 07, 2011, 11:19:59 AM
Yeah, the unsubsidized prices are indeed insane, but it beats going the other route imo, especially since the products have great resale value.

Having said that, I think I'm gonna stick to the 16GB model. :-[ Anything more would be a waste if my current usage is anything to go by.

(Although I have a feeling it's going to dramatically change when iCloud gets rolled out)
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: bork on October 07, 2011, 11:44:08 AM
I have the 3G and I'm still wondering if I should wait.  Is there a name for my disorder?  I feel like if I get a new one the next one will be way better and I won't be able to get it for 2 years because of the contract.  :(

If you're still on a 3G, it's past time to upgrade!
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cheebo on October 07, 2011, 02:34:01 PM
Yeah if you have 3G you should upgrade. iPhones are likely going to continue on Fall upgrades rather going back to June since iPads do their yearly releases in the spring. Another whole year with the 3G?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Robo on October 07, 2011, 03:00:24 PM
look, all you need to know is that it means '4 Steve'.

 omg :rofl
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 07, 2011, 05:53:20 PM
Yeah, the unsubsidized prices are indeed insane, but it beats going the other route imo, especially since the products have great resale value.

Having said that, I think I'm gonna stick to the 16GB model. :-[ Anything more would be a waste if my current usage is anything to go by.

(Although I have a feeling it's going to dramatically change when iCloud gets rolled out)

16gb unlocked $650
16gb on contract $200, ETF max $375 = $575. Etfs drops as the contract goes on
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 07, 2011, 06:07:29 PM
I guess I should have said "contract is not an option since I'll be importing." The unsubsidized prices are pretty much the standard price for iPhones where I live.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 07, 2011, 09:29:57 PM
Pre-ordered a 64 GB iPhone 4S with a 10 GB data plan today.

10 GB seems like a lot but it will be my primary source of internet so it seems reasonable, considering.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 08, 2011, 06:31:09 AM
huh. 4 Steve 4 Me in that case
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: chronovore on October 08, 2011, 09:50:01 AM
Dcharlie read the contract, summarized it, and I still can't understand it well enough to make a decision. In short: I will still avoid Softbank because they seem utterly crooked. And the service sucks, according to the majority of people I know on that service.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 08, 2011, 08:08:22 PM
sounds like a classic case of the large print giveth and the small print taketh away, will pass i guess.

I see no reason to get excited about 4S whatsoever, worst update ever.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: chronovore on October 10, 2011, 09:00:01 AM
Steve died for your sins, Cormacaroni! Is this how you repay him? Ignoring the 4Steve model?!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 10, 2011, 10:08:56 AM
Steve died for your sins, Cormacaroni! Is this how you repay him? Ignoring the 4Steve model?!  :o :o :o

So did Jesus, and I've been ignoring him all my life! At least I'm consistent.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 10, 2011, 10:12:44 AM
You're forgetting, Cormac.  Jobs IS Jesus.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: originalz on October 11, 2011, 08:36:44 PM
Wait, what's this iPad2 thing?  Do you need to have an iPhone or can you be an existing customer?  I'm sick of SB's crap signal and my friends with iPhones always seem to have issues in some areas, so I was planning to go to AU.  AU has some pretty nice deals if you switch over for the iPhone 4S, but if I can score an iPad2 from SB, I might reconsider!
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 11, 2011, 09:20:14 PM
Ios5 is great
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: lennedsay on October 11, 2011, 09:56:46 PM
Just realized my contract has been up for awhile. On a 3GS now, which is still functioning and in great shape. Feels like I just got it a year ago. Held up way better than my old 3G (which limped along a year). Probably will get the 4steve, and keep my 3GS as a backup. I've been paying $15 in insurance on this fucker for 2 years (which saved my ass when the 3G died, so it was worth it), but shit. I could drop the insurance, have a good back-up, and get a newer phone, and it's basically like they're paying me to take if off their hands. It's what Steve would want. :usacry

Now to convince the man...    Ahh, fuck him, he has an newer Galaxy, and that piece of shit got us lost last weekend. Ordering it as soon as I get a chance.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: originalz on October 11, 2011, 11:45:31 PM
it's going around that it's FREE IPAD2 but that's not the case

the deal is this :

1) if you pay upfront for the ipad (44,800 yen) then you 1860 yen a month discount on the basic 3G access for two years - hence the cost for the <100mb 3G plan + ipad per month (because you bought it upfront) is 0 yen. Step over 100mb and you are going to get charged extra - you are on this plan for two years, if you try to leave you lose your discount and have to pay the remaining balance on the 1860 yen for the data plan that they were refunding you.

2) however, you do NOT get the monthly discount if you buy the ipad in monthly installments which , coincidentally, works out around 1860 yen a month as well. In this case you get a "Free Ipad" in that you would be paying 1860 yen that you would pay for the basic lowest 3G data plan anyways. You are of course locked into a 2 year plan and the second you go over 100mb in a month you're going to get charged the extra. Leaving the plan also has penalties as per above.

So - all in all - there is no free ipad, it's going to cost you the price of an ipad one way or the other!


Huh, only 100MB a month?  I'd use that shit up in a week I'm sure.  There's no way to upgrade to a better plan?

Eh, I think I'll just go through with AU.  Maybe I'll hit up the SB store to see if they'll give me any incentive to stay, but I think moving will be best in the long run.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Pringo on October 12, 2011, 02:05:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BLzMCiR0G4

This is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2011, 02:38:34 AM
That is neat. Is there something on Android that's an equivalent?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cheebo on October 12, 2011, 08:14:41 AM
iOS 5. :bow Fantastic OS. Can't imagine what they can add to it for iOS 6. This is one main reason I can never switch to Android. Every time I play around with a droid it just feels so clunky compared to iOS. No real loyality to actual Apple hardware but god damn that mobile OS is amazing.

That is neat. Is there something on Android that's an equivalent?
There is plenty of voice reginition software but nothing on the same level as Siri. Apple bought that company a little while ago.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: chronovore on October 12, 2011, 08:39:30 AM
I swear there's a Stanhope for every moment -

[youtube=560,345]TVvCe6xZvOk[/youtube]

Holy crap, it's uncanny how much that guy looks and moves like me. Maybe if I start smoking, I'll be funnier?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Brehvolution on October 12, 2011, 01:33:19 PM
iOS 5 is out. I figured apple is getting hammered so here is an alternate link to the GM:

http://lifehacker.com/5847135/upgrade-to-ios-5-right-now

Pretty sweet upgrade.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Pringo on October 13, 2011, 10:57:29 AM
(http://1876.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/siri_weird_verge8.jpg) (http://1876.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/siri_weird_verge6.jpg)
(http://1876.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/siri_weird_verge5.jpg) (http://1876.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/siri_weird_verge2.jpg)

http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/12/siri-weird-things-iphone-4s/

 :o
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 13, 2011, 05:23:30 PM
anyone know if it's possible to get one of these tomorrow if you haven't preordered?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 13, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
Pretty sure you can get one if you camp out at one of the stores selling them.  Apple is probably your best bet, but you'd have to get there pretty damn early.  I just know that they're easier to get in and out with ease for a new product.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 13, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
ugh, camping out for a product is something I've always avoided.  I decided to stick with AT&T after talking with people in my area on both networks (whuts sprint) and AT&T is supposedly better than Verizon.

how early? they open at 8 am.  like, 7:30 am?

oh, and is it true that save data from apps/games is deleted if you delete the app itself? I was planning on getting the 16 gig but if that's the case, might as well go with 32 and horde.
 
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 14, 2011, 01:18:08 AM
Well, for games I know you can save most your achievements, but save games are pretty much fucked.  Most apps just link date with a connecting facebook or email account, so there's no worry about data with them, really.

And honestly, I'd get there at 6, possibly even earlier.  Never underestimate applefags.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cheebo on October 14, 2011, 06:04:56 AM
I thought iCloud has you covered in terms of game saves now?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Tucah on October 14, 2011, 08:32:04 AM
I can't wait for my phone to be delivered today :hyper

Too bad UPS always comes at like 5PM  :'(
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 15, 2011, 01:30:25 AM
Well, for games I know you can save most your achievements, but save games are pretty much fucked.  Most apps just link date with a connecting facebook or email account, so there's no worry about data with them, really.

And honestly, I'd get there at 6, possibly even earlier.  Never underestimate applefags.

I ended up just going around noon and got a 32 gig black.  I guess they had a lot of stock.


so...what are the apps you need for this thing? I've been using an ordinary cellphone since 2006.  app and stuff are lost on me.

also, do I need itunes? I have it installed on my laptop because I won't install it on my main PC, but if I can get by on the phone itself, I'm all for that.

also also, are there any good cases?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 15, 2011, 02:21:12 AM
this is confusing and I feel old

siri isn't being helpful.  I ask how to create a new folder on the iphone and it gives me a definition of folder.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: pilonv1 on October 15, 2011, 02:28:00 AM
Siri seems like something that is cool for a week then you never use it again
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 15, 2011, 02:53:45 AM
well was there voice to text before? because it's pretty darn accurate here.  I don't know if that counts as siri, or if siri is just the ask dumb questions thing.


edit: wow virtual analog sticks are terrible.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 15, 2011, 08:24:16 AM
Siri not working correctly is a server-side error; all of it other than voice-to-text is going through Apple's servers to find its information.  It'll work correctly in a few days or so.

Virtual analog sticks are terrible, yes, and I'd never bother with a game that uses them unless they use them REALLY well.  Stick to games that use the strengths of the phone.

As for apps: Hipstamatic, Instagram, Facebook, Tweetbot, Alien Blue, Facebook Mssenger, Dragon Go, Words with Friends, Comiczeal, Find My iPhone, IMDb, HBO Go, Incredibooth, Flixster, Netflix, RunPee, Bump, Beejive IM, Foursquare, GroupMe, LinkedIn, Groupon, GetGlue, IntoNow, Pandora, TuneIn Radio, Spotify, forkly, Starbucks, Momento, Pulse News, just to name a few.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Pringo on October 15, 2011, 01:01:02 PM
look, all you need to know is that it means '4 Steve'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1LRVYMygPs
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Brehvolution on October 15, 2011, 01:34:07 PM
Siri not working correctly is a server-side error; all of it other than voice-to-text is going through Apple's servers to find its information.  It'll work correctly in a few days or so.



Is that the way it works? That is pretty stupid. 2gb data poors am cry.

:bow grandfathered in unlimited data :bow2
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 16, 2011, 03:15:59 PM
Starbucks?  Seriously? 

Sure, why not?  If you go there often, you can link your starbucks card with your app and just have them scan your phone and redeem rewards through the app. 

And come on oscar, what else would you recommend?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 16, 2011, 04:28:54 PM
that reads like a shopping list for the world's biggest cigarillo

no offence

No Reeder too. What a cigarillo.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: chronovore on October 16, 2011, 05:43:25 PM
Starbucks?  Seriously? 

Guess what, sometimes something nice happens, and you want to celebrate with a Mocha Raspberry Frappuccino.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 16, 2011, 06:24:18 PM
Why the fuck would you have Facebook Messenger and BeeJive? That is honestly the worst list of apps ever.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: pilonv1 on October 16, 2011, 06:40:43 PM
Tune In Radio is awesome. I don't use any of those other apps listed above except for IMDB
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 16, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
I've uninstalled most of my apps except for the handful I use frequently:

Social: FB, Twitter, Whatsapp
News: Reeder
References: Dictionary.com, Google Translate, Articles
Entertainment: Pandora, Flixter
Utilities: Dropbox, Paypal, Adobe Ideas
Games: Doodle Jump, Groove Coaster, Ping Pong, Tiny Wings
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: originalz on October 16, 2011, 07:56:20 PM
Siri doesn't seem to be able to understand Japanese yet, nor could it give me any good restaurant recommendations on Sunshine Street when I asked in English.  Hopefully they'll work on that.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 16, 2011, 08:21:33 PM
see I wish the app store wasn't so unorganized to make finding apps difficult.  this is my first time really using the app store and it's a mess.

I like the phone.  heavier than expected but my old phone weighed practically nothing, so the 4s feels like 3 or 4 times heavier.  some things generally feel cumbersome, like getting a new ringtone.  on my old phone I just transferred an mp3 via bluetooth and it was done.  here it seems like I need to convert and use itunes and stuff.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 16, 2011, 08:56:10 PM
why is the iphone screen still so small? look at all that wasted real estate on the top and bottom. i never understood that.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: pilonv1 on October 16, 2011, 10:20:44 PM
Because the screen quality dumpster rapes any other phone
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 16, 2011, 10:36:50 PM
does it? i dunno. a co-worker has the 4 and it doesn't seem any better than the one on my phone.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 16, 2011, 11:39:14 PM
Been reading how great the IQ is of the camera itself. It won't perform miracles in low light but you'll get files that stand up to the big boys in good light...

Steve Huff: Just for fun! The iPhone 4s vs the NEX-7 and Fuji X100
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/10/15/just-for-fun-the-iphone-4s-vs-the-nex-7-and-fuji-x100/

Its getting to a point where the convergence of camera and phone may relegate the dedicated stills camera space to more of a pure hobbyist area instead of those who just dabble (less so than hobbyists). Gonna see the death of Point and Shoots in a couple of years or a large reduction in the myriad of models that get released by all the camera companies under the sun.

Another way to look at it is that they should compliment eachother. Having the iPhone (or any smartphone, really) in my pocket constantly that can take photos that are good at websize resolutions and print size is only a good thing. I'll have something like the Sony NEX when I need the control or the use of my lovely lenses. I'd love to see a phone though that really goes balls deep in the photography/videography side. Large CMOS sensor, a practical lens system. Though I'm sure this would really compromise the size of the camera itself.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 16, 2011, 11:58:50 PM
I think Sony was trying to carve out a camera-phone niche once upon a time.  My old phone from half a decade ago is cybershot branded.  A whopping 2 megapixels must have been hot at the time.

Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 17, 2011, 12:05:37 AM
I think Sony was trying to carve out a camera-phone niche once upon a time.  My old phone from half a decade ago is cybershot branded.  A whopping 2 megapixels must have been hot at the time.

It would be crazy if they end up converging their phones, handheld system and cameras in one super phone a couple of years down the line. The Sony NEX series already has a cellphone with lens mount form factor. Factoring in the lens mount would make it a chunky smartphone though.

(http://i.imgur.com/Vwhxm.jpg)

But thinking realistically something like that would never happen. I'm sure Sony loves being able to make money off of separate devices instead of consolidating them into one super device.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 17, 2011, 01:31:34 AM
when siri works it can be an amazing time waster

I asked about Danny Glover and it gave me a timeline of his life
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: jiji on October 17, 2011, 10:51:14 AM
Mine shipped :hyper
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 17, 2011, 11:35:30 AM
make sure u downlo0ad tapatalk and then send 10 pm's a day to demi to get off his fat arse and install it
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 18, 2011, 07:59:44 PM
after using this for a few days, some thoughts:

battery life sucks
heavy, thin and slick--I now know people wear tight pants
siri is pretty dope once you temper your expectations.  voice recognition is incredible.
I really need a case
camera is pretty great for a phone
facetime is creepy
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 19, 2011, 11:08:53 AM
I heard that you can't turn off 3G on 4S, is that true? ???
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Dickie Dee on October 19, 2011, 05:45:20 PM
Is there any mechanism for Siri to keep continually updating itself apart from big official revisions? Like they can just keep continually feeding it new material as it gets stumped and some of it's responses get stale?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 19, 2011, 06:06:29 PM
Is there any mechanism for Siri to keep continually updating itself apart from big official revisions? Like they can just keep continually feeding it new material as it gets stumped and some of it's responses get stale?

I think Siri contacts a server for every response.  Like, the night this thing was released, I kept trying to show Siri to a friend and it kept giving me a 'server busy' message.  So yeah, if you use it on your 3G connection, it dips into you data plan.  I'm assuming any updates to the responses can be done on the server end.

the more I use siri the cooler I think it is.  it's amazing to try a command and have it actually work.  Last night I said "set alarm for 6:20" and it did.  later I decided to sleep more, so I just said "cancel alarm" and it goes "alarm for 6:20 is turned off."

it's like science fiction [/tight pants] 


How long does the battery last?

I'd heard that battery life was one of the main advantages the iphone series had over most androids. My android phone basically has to be recharged every day. It'll go 36 hours max, but that's pushing it.

Right now I'm at 30% and I'm waiting for it to drain completely before my next charge.  I last charged it early Monday and haven't been doing any heavy app usage with it.  When I do, I can pretty much count the battery percent dropping.  I'm hoping it gets better off a fresh charge. 


I heard that you can't turn off 3G on 4S, is that true? ???

there's an option under 'Network' called 'Cellular Data'; it says "Turn off cellular data to restrict all data to Wi-Fi, including email, web browsing, and push notifications."  Is that the same thing?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 19, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
No, in previous phones you had a separate 3G toggle. Turning that off would restrict you to using Edge, thus greatly limiting battery consumption. Now they're forcing you either to use 3G or cut you out of your data connections completely. No push, no nothing.

It's still better than nothing if you want to squeeze a couple hours or  more out of a full charge, I guess.

I read it has something to do with the 4S being a GSM/CDMA phone.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 21, 2011, 03:45:04 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=elKxgsrJFhw[/youtube]
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: originalz on October 23, 2011, 07:05:58 AM
So, I got my 4S with AU.  Can't really tell if the reception is much better than SB, for the most part it's been pretty consistent although I went into some underground areas and my 3G connection was kind of shaky.  Ah well, guess it can't be helped.  Was able to port my number and sign up for an AU email account, although a lot of features like Facetime won't be working until January or something.  I doubt I'll care.  Siri's voice recognition is pretty damn impressive although she's pretty useless in Japan.  She can seem to understand Japanese names if they're in my phone book as romanji, but can't understand kanji, which I guess is kind of understandable.  Her mail writing abilities are also pretty good, I told her to send a mail to my friend, the subject and message contents that I said were pretty damn accurate.

Holy shit people weren't kidding when they said the battery life sucks, seems like I'll be lucky if it lasts a full day.  Enjoying the phone overall tho.  TuneIn radio is awesome, I'm actually able to listen to my local stations back home.  Trying to figure out good apps to get now.

Now I feel like a proper foreigner here!  Heh, seemed like I was the only person without a damn iPhone.

You guys think the Applecare shit is worth getting?  The AU guy said that it's probably unnecessary and I bought a case for the thing...
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: originalz on October 23, 2011, 07:12:19 AM
I can get it within a year, yea?  What caused your shit to break?

Siri is far less accurate with long messages, it's actually kind of funny to see what she interprets.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 23, 2011, 02:31:00 PM
can you get applecare after the fact? I didn't bother getting it at the store

also, this might be my favorite apple product I've owned because I don't need itunes for most of it's applications.  whenever I decide to use it as an mp3 player, I'll dig out my old laptop and infect that.  for now I'm happy I can get by without it.

and yes, the the battery life is worse than I thought.  I heard to let it drain completely and a fresh charge will help, but nope.  with the lightest usage (no games or videos) it lasted about two days.  it's not a fair comparison because my old phone couldn't do most of what my iphone can, but even after five years I'd only charge it once every four or five days, and that includes time spent playing Tetris, Bookworm and Puzzle Quests.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 23, 2011, 02:35:17 PM
I just plug it in each night next to my bed, that I way I usually don't run into battery issues.

And sorry to burst your bubble linkzeldaganon, but as soon as you want to sync and back up your shit, including your apps, iTunes is pretty much a must.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 23, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
I thought icloud covered that?
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 23, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
Some of it.  But if you want to have more control over shit -- contacts, mail, pictures and videos -- you need to connect it to iTunes.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: cool breeze on October 23, 2011, 03:35:05 PM
well, I'll just do those things once in a while then.  I have the latest itunes installed on my ~6 year old laptop for this purpose.  I just don't want to install it on my current PC.

oh, and is there a list of all shortcuts? I just learned that double clicking the home button on the lock screen brings up music controls and quick camera access, and home+power takes an image of the screen.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 23, 2011, 03:37:32 PM
I think iCloud takes care of everything, BN. You can either do iCloud backups OTA, or when you connect to iTunes either wirelessly or by USB (iTunes itselt basically asks you which method do you want to use: iTunes or iCloud backups).

Right now, iCloud takes care of "Mail, Contancts, Calenders, Reminders, Bookmarks, Notes, Photostream (photos and vids), Documents and Data, and Find My iPhone settings." So basically everything iTunes used to do. The only drawbacks are the 5GB space limitation (you have to buy more), and the fact that you can't pick which backup instance you want to restore from.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 23, 2011, 03:39:08 PM
Hrm.  I thought it only did a few of those.

Well whatever, I hardly ever plug my phone in  to iTunes so no worries, linkzg.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: chronovore on October 23, 2011, 06:03:51 PM
can you get applecare after the fact? I didn't bother getting it at the store
You can buy AppleCare anytime during the basic warranty period.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 23, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Applcare+, which covers physical damage, has to be purchased same day afaik.don't know if they budge on that
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: originalz on October 23, 2011, 08:42:30 PM
There isn't any ApplecarePlus in Japan from what I can see.  The normal Applecare is around 7500yen, which is close to $100USD, seems like a lot for one extra year of coverage.  Is the default 1 year warranty worse than the Applecare one or something?  I don't really care about the phone support.
Title: Re: iPhone 4S
Post by: chronovore on October 23, 2011, 09:18:27 PM
Apple's repair prices are worse than Japanese automobile part price gouging.

They calculate a flat-rate based on a percentage price of the unit, at launch. So if you had a 16GB iPod Touch from when it was first introduced, though they are cheap as hell now the price to repair it would likely be as-or-more expensive than buying a new 16GB Touch.