Author Topic: iPhone 4S (Read 11517 times)

Robo · « **Reply #60 on:** October 07, 2011, 03:00:24 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on October 05, 2011, 10:44:53 PM

look, all you need to know is that it means '4 Steve'.

omg

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #61 on:** October 07, 2011, 05:53:20 PM »

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on October 07, 2011, 11:19:59 AM

Yeah, the unsubsidized prices are indeed insane, but it beats going the other route imo, especially since the products have great resale value.

Having said that, I think I'm gonna stick to the 16GB model. Anything more would be a waste if my current usage is anything to go by.

(Although I have a feeling it's going to dramatically change when iCloud gets rolled out)

16gb unlocked $650
16gb on contract $200, ETF max $375 = $575. Etfs drops as the contract goes on

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #62 on:** October 07, 2011, 06:07:29 PM »

I guess I should have said "contract is not an option since I'll be importing." The unsubsidized prices are pretty much the standard price for iPhones where I live.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #63 on:** October 07, 2011, 09:29:57 PM »

Pre-ordered a 64 GB iPhone 4S with a 10 GB data plan today.

10 GB seems like a lot but it will be my primary source of internet so it seems reasonable, considering.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #64 on:** October 08, 2011, 06:31:09 AM »

huh. 4 Steve 4 Me in that case

chronovore · « **Reply #65 on:** October 08, 2011, 09:50:01 AM »

Dcharlie read the contract, summarized it, and I still can't understand it well enough to make a decision. In short: I will still avoid Softbank because they seem utterly crooked. And the service sucks, according to the majority of people I know on that service.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #66 on:** October 08, 2011, 08:08:22 PM »

sounds like a classic case of the large print giveth and the small print taketh away, will pass i guess.

I see no reason to get excited about 4S whatsoever, worst update ever.

chronovore · « **Reply #67 on:** October 10, 2011, 09:00:01 AM »

Steve died for your sins, Cormacaroni! Is this how you repay him? Ignoring the 4Steve model?!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #68 on:** October 10, 2011, 10:08:56 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on October 10, 2011, 09:00:01 AM

Steve died for your sins, Cormacaroni! Is this how you repay him? Ignoring the 4Steve model?!

So did Jesus, and I've been ignoring him all my life! At least I'm consistent.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #69 on:** October 10, 2011, 10:12:44 AM »

You're forgetting, Cormac. Jobs IS Jesus.

originalz · « **Reply #70 on:** October 11, 2011, 08:36:44 PM »

Wait, what's this iPad2 thing? Do you need to have an iPhone or can you be an existing customer? I'm sick of SB's crap signal and my friends with iPhones always seem to have issues in some areas, so I was planning to go to AU. AU has some pretty nice deals if you switch over for the iPhone 4S, but if I can score an iPad2 from SB, I might reconsider!

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #71 on:** October 11, 2011, 09:20:14 PM »

Ios5 is great

lennedsay · « **Reply #72 on:** October 11, 2011, 09:56:46 PM »

Just realized my contract has been up for awhile. On a 3GS now, which is still functioning and in great shape. Feels like I just got it a year ago. Held up way better than my old 3G (which limped along a year). Probably will get the 4steve, and keep my 3GS as a backup. I've been paying $15 in insurance on this fucker for 2 years (which saved my ass when the 3G died, so it was worth it), but shit. I could drop the insurance, have a good back-up, and get a newer phone, and it's basically like they're paying me to take if off their hands. It's what Steve would want.

Now to convince the man... Ahh, fuck him, he has an newer Galaxy, and that piece of shit got us lost last weekend. Ordering it as soon as I get a chance.

originalz · « **Reply #73 on:** October 11, 2011, 11:45:31 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on October 11, 2011, 08:45:00 PM

it's going around that it's FREE IPAD2 but that's not the case

the deal is this :

1) if you pay upfront for the ipad (44,800 yen) then you 1860 yen a month discount on the basic 3G access for two years - hence the cost for the <100mb 3G plan + ipad per month (because you bought it upfront) is 0 yen. Step over 100mb and you are going to get charged extra - you are on this plan for two years, if you try to leave you lose your discount and have to pay the remaining balance on the 1860 yen for the data plan that they were refunding you.

2) however, you do NOT get the monthly discount if you buy the ipad in monthly installments which , coincidentally, works out around 1860 yen a month as well. In this case you get a "Free Ipad" in that you would be paying 1860 yen that you would pay for the basic lowest 3G data plan anyways. You are of course locked into a 2 year plan and the second you go over 100mb in a month you're going to get charged the extra. Leaving the plan also has penalties as per above.

So - all in all - there is no free ipad, it's going to cost you the price of an ipad one way or the other!

Huh, only 100MB a month? I'd use that shit up in a week I'm sure. There's no way to upgrade to a better plan?

Eh, I think I'll just go through with AU. Maybe I'll hit up the SB store to see if they'll give me any incentive to stay, but I think moving will be best in the long run.

Pringo · « **Reply #74 on:** October 12, 2011, 02:05:23 AM »

This is pretty impressive.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #75 on:** October 12, 2011, 02:38:34 AM »

That is neat. Is there something on Android that's an equivalent?

Cheebo · « **Reply #76 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:14:41 AM »

iOS 5.

Fantastic OS. Can't imagine what they can add to it for iOS 6. This is one main reason I can never switch to Android. Every time I play around with a droid it just feels so clunky compared to iOS. No real loyality to actual Apple hardware but god damn that mobile OS is amazing.

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2011, 02:38:34 AM

That is neat. Is there something on Android that's an equivalent?

There is plenty of voice reginition software but nothing on the same level as Siri. Apple bought that company a little while ago.

chronovore · « **Reply #77 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:39:30 AM »

Quote from: dcharlie on October 10, 2011, 11:21:46 AM

I swear there's a Stanhope for every moment -

[youtube=560,345]TVvCe6xZvOk[/youtube]

Holy crap, it's uncanny how much that guy looks and moves like me. Maybe if I start smoking, I'll be funnier?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #78 on:** October 12, 2011, 01:33:19 PM »

iOS 5 is out. I figured apple is getting hammered so here is an alternate link to the GM:

http://lifehacker.com/5847135/upgrade-to-ios-5-right-now

Pretty sweet upgrade.

Pringo · « **Reply #79 on:** October 13, 2011, 10:57:29 AM »

http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/12/siri-weird-things-iphone-4s/

cool breeze · « **Reply #80 on:** October 13, 2011, 05:23:30 PM »

anyone know if it's possible to get one of these tomorrow if you haven't preordered?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #81 on:** October 13, 2011, 05:31:59 PM »

Pretty sure you can get one if you camp out at one of the stores selling them. Apple is probably your best bet, but you'd have to get there pretty damn early. I just know that they're easier to get in and out with ease for a new product.

cool breeze · « **Reply #82 on:** October 13, 2011, 05:36:00 PM »

ugh, camping out for a product is something I've always avoided. I decided to stick with AT&T after talking with people in my area on both networks (whuts sprint) and AT&T is supposedly better than Verizon.

how early? they open at 8 am. like, 7:30 am?

oh, and is it true that save data from apps/games is deleted if you delete the app itself? I was planning on getting the 16 gig but if that's the case, might as well go with 32 and horde.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #83 on:** October 14, 2011, 01:18:08 AM »

Well, for games I know you can save most your achievements, but save games are pretty much fucked. Most apps just link date with a connecting facebook or email account, so there's no worry about data with them, really.

And honestly, I'd get there at 6, possibly even earlier. Never underestimate applefags.

Cheebo · « **Reply #84 on:** October 14, 2011, 06:04:56 AM »

I thought iCloud has you covered in terms of game saves now?

Tucah · « **Reply #85 on:** October 14, 2011, 08:32:04 AM »

I can't wait for my phone to be delivered today

Too bad UPS always comes at like 5PM :'(

cool breeze · « **Reply #86 on:** October 15, 2011, 01:30:25 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on October 14, 2011, 01:18:08 AM

Well, for games I know you can save most your achievements, but save games are pretty much fucked. Most apps just link date with a connecting facebook or email account, so there's no worry about data with them, really.

And honestly, I'd get there at 6, possibly even earlier. Never underestimate applefags.

I ended up just going around noon and got a 32 gig black. I guess they had a lot of stock.

so...what are the apps you need for this thing? I've been using an ordinary cellphone since 2006. app and stuff are lost on me.

also, do I need itunes? I have it installed on my laptop because I won't install it on my main PC, but if I can get by on the phone itself, I'm all for that.

also also, are there any good cases?

cool breeze · « **Reply #87 on:** October 15, 2011, 02:21:12 AM »

this is confusing and I feel old

siri isn't being helpful. I ask how to create a new folder on the iphone and it gives me a definition of folder.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #88 on:** October 15, 2011, 02:28:00 AM »

Siri seems like something that is cool for a week then you never use it again

cool breeze · « **Reply #89 on:** October 15, 2011, 02:53:45 AM »

well was there voice to text before? because it's pretty darn accurate here. I don't know if that counts as siri, or if siri is just the ask dumb questions thing.

edit: wow virtual analog sticks are terrible.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #90 on:** October 15, 2011, 08:24:16 AM »

Siri not working correctly is a server-side error; all of it other than voice-to-text is going through Apple's servers to find its information. It'll work correctly in a few days or so.

Virtual analog sticks are terrible, yes, and I'd never bother with a game that uses them unless they use them REALLY well. Stick to games that use the strengths of the phone.

As for apps: Hipstamatic, Instagram, Facebook, Tweetbot, Alien Blue, Facebook Mssenger, Dragon Go, Words with Friends, Comiczeal, Find My iPhone, IMDb, HBO Go, Incredibooth, Flixster, Netflix, RunPee, Bump, Beejive IM, Foursquare, GroupMe, LinkedIn, Groupon, GetGlue, IntoNow, Pandora, TuneIn Radio, Spotify, forkly, Starbucks, Momento, Pulse News, just to name a few.

Pringo · « **Reply #91 on:** October 15, 2011, 01:01:02 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on October 05, 2011, 10:44:53 PM

look, all you need to know is that it means '4 Steve'.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #92 on:** October 15, 2011, 01:34:07 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on October 15, 2011, 08:24:16 AM

Siri not working correctly is a server-side error; all of it other than voice-to-text is going through Apple's servers to find its information. It'll work correctly in a few days or so.

Is that the way it works? That is pretty stupid. 2gb data poors am cry.

grandfathered in unlimited data

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #93 on:** October 16, 2011, 03:15:59 PM »

Quote from: The Business on October 15, 2011, 12:56:24 PM

Starbucks? Seriously?

Sure, why not? If you go there often, you can link your starbucks card with your app and just have them scan your phone and redeem rewards through the app.

And come on oscar, what else would you recommend?

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #94 on:** October 16, 2011, 04:28:54 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 15, 2011, 11:36:00 AM

that reads like a shopping list for the world's biggest cigarillo

no offence

No Reeder too. What a cigarillo.

chronovore · « **Reply #95 on:** October 16, 2011, 05:43:25 PM »

Quote from: The Business on October 15, 2011, 12:56:24 PM

Starbucks? Seriously?

Guess what, sometimes something nice happens, and you want to celebrate with a Mocha Raspberry Frappuccino.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #96 on:** October 16, 2011, 06:24:18 PM »

Why the fuck would you have Facebook Messenger and BeeJive? That is honestly the worst list of apps ever.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #97 on:** October 16, 2011, 06:40:43 PM »

Tune In Radio is awesome. I don't use any of those other apps listed above except for IMDB

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #98 on:** October 16, 2011, 07:25:13 PM »

I've uninstalled most of my apps except for the handful I use frequently:

Social: FB, Twitter, Whatsapp
News: Reeder
References: Dictionary.com, Google Translate, Articles
Entertainment: Pandora, Flixter
Utilities: Dropbox, Paypal, Adobe Ideas
Games: Doodle Jump, Groove Coaster, Ping Pong, Tiny Wings

originalz · « **Reply #99 on:** October 16, 2011, 07:56:20 PM »

Siri doesn't seem to be able to understand Japanese yet, nor could it give me any good restaurant recommendations on Sunshine Street when I asked in English. Hopefully they'll work on that.

cool breeze · « **Reply #100 on:** October 16, 2011, 08:21:33 PM »

see I wish the app store wasn't so unorganized to make finding apps difficult. this is my first time really using the app store and it's a mess.

I like the phone. heavier than expected but my old phone weighed practically nothing, so the 4s feels like 3 or 4 times heavier. some things generally feel cumbersome, like getting a new ringtone. on my old phone I just transferred an mp3 via bluetooth and it was done. here it seems like I need to convert and use itunes and stuff.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #101 on:** October 16, 2011, 08:56:10 PM »

why is the iphone screen still so small? look at all that wasted real estate on the top and bottom. i never understood that.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #102 on:** October 16, 2011, 10:20:44 PM »

Because the screen quality dumpster rapes any other phone

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #103 on:** October 16, 2011, 10:36:50 PM »

does it? i dunno. a co-worker has the 4 and it doesn't seem any better than the one on my phone.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #104 on:** October 16, 2011, 11:39:14 PM »

Been reading how great the IQ is of the camera itself. It won't perform miracles in low light but you'll get files that stand up to the big boys in good light...

Steve Huff: Just for fun! The iPhone 4s vs the NEX-7 and Fuji X100
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/10/15/just-for-fun-the-iphone-4s-vs-the-nex-7-and-fuji-x100/

Its getting to a point where the convergence of camera and phone may relegate the dedicated stills camera space to more of a pure hobbyist area instead of those who just dabble (less so than hobbyists). Gonna see the death of Point and Shoots in a couple of years or a large reduction in the myriad of models that get released by all the camera companies under the sun.

Another way to look at it is that they should compliment eachother. Having the iPhone (or any smartphone, really) in my pocket constantly that can take photos that are good at websize resolutions and print size is only a good thing. I'll have something like the Sony NEX when I need the control or the use of my lovely lenses. I'd love to see a phone though that really goes balls deep in the photography/videography side. Large CMOS sensor, a practical lens system. Though I'm sure this would really compromise the size of the camera itself.

cool breeze · « **Reply #105 on:** October 16, 2011, 11:58:50 PM »

I think Sony was trying to carve out a camera-phone niche once upon a time. My old phone from half a decade ago is cybershot branded. A whopping 2 megapixels must have been hot at the time.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #106 on:** October 17, 2011, 12:05:37 AM »

Quote from: Linkzg on October 16, 2011, 11:58:50 PM

I think Sony was trying to carve out a camera-phone niche once upon a time. My old phone from half a decade ago is cybershot branded. A whopping 2 megapixels must have been hot at the time.

It would be crazy if they end up converging their phones, handheld system and cameras in one super phone a couple of years down the line. The Sony NEX series already has a cellphone with lens mount form factor. Factoring in the lens mount would make it a chunky smartphone though.

But thinking realistically something like that would never happen. I'm sure Sony loves being able to make money off of separate devices instead of consolidating them into one super device.

cool breeze · « **Reply #107 on:** October 17, 2011, 01:31:34 AM »

when siri works it can be an amazing time waster

I asked about Danny Glover and it gave me a timeline of his life

jiji · « **Reply #108 on:** October 17, 2011, 10:51:14 AM »

Mine shipped

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #109 on:** October 17, 2011, 11:35:30 AM »

make sure u downlo0ad tapatalk and then send 10 pm's a day to demi to get off his fat arse and install it

cool breeze · « **Reply #110 on:** October 18, 2011, 07:59:44 PM »

after using this for a few days, some thoughts:

battery life sucks
heavy, thin and slick--I now know people wear tight pants
siri is pretty dope once you temper your expectations. voice recognition is incredible.
I really need a case
camera is pretty great for a phone
facetime is creepy

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #111 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:08:53 AM »

I heard that you can't turn off 3G on 4S, is that true?

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #112 on:** October 19, 2011, 05:45:20 PM »

Is there any mechanism for Siri to keep continually updating itself apart from big official revisions? Like they can just keep continually feeding it new material as it gets stumped and some of it's responses get stale?

cool breeze · « **Reply #113 on:** October 19, 2011, 06:06:29 PM »

Quote from: Mamacint on October 19, 2011, 05:45:20 PM

Is there any mechanism for Siri to keep continually updating itself apart from big official revisions? Like they can just keep continually feeding it new material as it gets stumped and some of it's responses get stale?

I think Siri contacts a server for every response. Like, the night this thing was released, I kept trying to show Siri to a friend and it kept giving me a 'server busy' message. So yeah, if you use it on your 3G connection, it dips into you data plan. I'm assuming any updates to the responses can be done on the server end.

the more I use siri the cooler I think it is. it's amazing to try a command and have it actually work. Last night I said "set alarm for 6:20" and it did. later I decided to sleep more, so I just said "cancel alarm" and it goes "alarm for 6:20 is turned off."

it's like science fiction [/tight pants]

Quote from: AWESOM-O on October 19, 2011, 11:15:32 AM

How long does the battery last?

I'd heard that battery life was one of the main advantages the iphone series had over most androids. My android phone basically has to be recharged every day. It'll go 36 hours max, but that's pushing it.

Right now I'm at 30% and I'm waiting for it to drain completely before my next charge. I last charged it early Monday and haven't been doing any heavy app usage with it. When I do, I can pretty much count the battery percent dropping. I'm hoping it gets better off a fresh charge.

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on October 19, 2011, 11:08:53 AM

I heard that you can't turn off 3G on 4S, is that true?

there's an option under 'Network' called 'Cellular Data'; it says "Turn off cellular data to restrict all data to Wi-Fi, including email, web browsing, and push notifications." Is that the same thing?

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #114 on:** October 19, 2011, 06:34:11 PM »

No, in previous phones you had a separate 3G toggle. Turning that off would restrict you to using Edge, thus greatly limiting battery consumption. Now they're forcing you either to use 3G or cut you out of your data connections completely. No push, no nothing.

It's still better than nothing if you want to squeeze a couple hours or more out of a full charge, I guess.

I read it has something to do with the 4S being a GSM/CDMA phone.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #115 on:** October 21, 2011, 03:45:04 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

originalz · « **Reply #116 on:** October 23, 2011, 07:05:58 AM »

So, I got my 4S with AU. Can't really tell if the reception is much better than SB, for the most part it's been pretty consistent although I went into some underground areas and my 3G connection was kind of shaky. Ah well, guess it can't be helped. Was able to port my number and sign up for an AU email account, although a lot of features like Facetime won't be working until January or something. I doubt I'll care. Siri's voice recognition is pretty damn impressive although she's pretty useless in Japan. She can seem to understand Japanese names if they're in my phone book as romanji, but can't understand kanji, which I guess is kind of understandable. Her mail writing abilities are also pretty good, I told her to send a mail to my friend, the subject and message contents that I said were pretty damn accurate.

Holy shit people weren't kidding when they said the battery life sucks, seems like I'll be lucky if it lasts a full day. Enjoying the phone overall tho. TuneIn radio is awesome, I'm actually able to listen to my local stations back home. Trying to figure out good apps to get now.

Now I feel like a proper foreigner here! Heh, seemed like I was the only person without a damn iPhone.

You guys think the Applecare shit is worth getting? The AU guy said that it's probably unnecessary and I bought a case for the thing...

originalz · « **Reply #117 on:** October 23, 2011, 07:12:19 AM »

I can get it within a year, yea? What caused your shit to break?

Siri is far less accurate with long messages, it's actually kind of funny to see what she interprets.

cool breeze · « **Reply #118 on:** October 23, 2011, 02:31:00 PM »

can you get applecare after the fact? I didn't bother getting it at the store

also, this might be my favorite apple product I've owned because I don't need itunes for most of it's applications. whenever I decide to use it as an mp3 player, I'll dig out my old laptop and infect that. for now I'm happy I can get by without it.

and yes, the the battery life is worse than I thought. I heard to let it drain completely and a fresh charge will help, but nope. with the lightest usage (no games or videos) it lasted about two days. it's not a fair comparison because my old phone couldn't do most of what my iphone can, but even after five years I'd only charge it once every four or five days, and that includes time spent playing Tetris, Bookworm and Puzzle Quests.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #119 on:** October 23, 2011, 02:35:17 PM »

I just plug it in each night next to my bed, that I way I usually don't run into battery issues.

And sorry to burst your bubble linkzeldaganon, but as soon as you want to sync and back up your shit, including your apps, iTunes is pretty much a must.