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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Himu on October 11, 2011, 03:03:25 AM

Title: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 11, 2011, 03:03:25 AM
Looks better than Asylum all around.

[youtube=560,345]dxTwKakEoDg[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]FCTdm8Nb7Ps[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]rfsXdl2IsX8[/youtube]

DLC skins:

(http://i.imgur.com/zLvy0.png)

Batman Beyond, Dark Knight Returns, Batman Year One, 70's Batman, TAS, default

Game is looking great.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 11, 2011, 03:07:04 AM
zzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Trent Dole on October 11, 2011, 03:07:38 AM
DNR Batman is looking kinda plump. Guess we all know which skin Demi's using.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 11, 2011, 03:09:05 AM
Dark Knight Returns features a fat, old Batman. 'Course he's lookin' plump.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 11, 2011, 03:13:11 AM
zzzzzzzzzz

[youtube=560,345]Vfg47aqmuP4[/youtube]

taco.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 11, 2011, 03:14:08 AM
Damn it where is Adam West Batman
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Trent Dole on October 11, 2011, 03:16:00 AM
Damn it where is Adam West Batman
The best Batman. '70s dude is kinda close.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MCD on October 11, 2011, 03:16:31 AM
Better yet, where is Chinese Electric Batman
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: magus on October 11, 2011, 04:29:23 AM
Damn it where is Adam West Batman

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrIp3k5pJQM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: pilonv1 on October 11, 2011, 07:05:14 AM
When's the PC version out again? Greenmangaming have 20% off atm which brings it down to $33.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 11, 2011, 07:52:11 AM
When's the PC version out again? Greenmangaming have 20% off atm which brings it down to $33.

early november
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: pilonv1 on October 11, 2011, 08:06:46 AM
So Skyrim/Saints time? Will wait for a sale then
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 11, 2011, 08:49:32 AM
KMart has a $30 coupon if you buy it there. Get hype

Buy Batman, get Saints 3 for $30? yes plz
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Brehvolution on October 11, 2011, 09:02:52 AM
Damn it where is Adam West Batman

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrIp3k5pJQM[/youtube]
oh boy I busted out laughing at work. :rofl
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: iconoclast on October 11, 2011, 09:13:01 AM
Blue/grey batman is best batman. Too bad he won't really fit in the grimdark world of the game.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 11, 2011, 10:12:16 AM
Good thing they didn't contract out to Capcom for the DLC costumes.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 11, 2011, 11:43:35 AM
I'd be using the DKR suit, or TAS. Or Robin!  :-*
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 11, 2011, 01:00:33 PM
KMart has a $30 coupon if you buy it there. Get hype

Buy Batman, get Saints 3 for $30? yes plz

Fuck I hate the Seattle area, there are like no K-marts within realistic driving distance. Goddamn yuppie hellpit
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 11, 2011, 01:25:45 PM
KMart has a $30 coupon if you buy it there. Get hype

Buy Batman, get Saints 3 for $30? yes plz

do you have to be in a special "gamer club" or something like that for the coupon, or is this just a walk-in walk-out deal?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 11, 2011, 01:33:12 PM
KMart has a $30 coupon if you buy it there. Get hype

Buy Batman, get Saints 3 for $30? yes plz

Fuck I hate the Seattle area, there are like no K-marts within realistic driving distance. Goddamn yuppie hellpit

There's a K-Mart in North Seattle on Aurora.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 11, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
KMart has a $30 coupon if you buy it there. Get hype

Buy Batman, get Saints 3 for $30? yes plz

Fuck I hate the Seattle area, there are like no K-marts within realistic driving distance. Goddamn yuppie hellpit

There's a K-Mart in North Seattle on Aurora.

Holy shit there it is...right across from a Dollar Tree and a Ross's. Hmm, wonder if it's worth it to go that far north
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 11, 2011, 01:40:34 PM
KMart has a $30 coupon if you buy it there. Get hype

Buy Batman, get Saints 3 for $30? yes plz

do you have to be in a special "gamer club" or something like that for the coupon, or is this just a walk-in walk-out deal?

Have to get their Shop Rewards Card, that's it

This applies for any coupon they offer
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 11, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
ok, thanks
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 11, 2011, 01:57:29 PM
They are super supportive and helpful, too. Their Facebook page is a great resource, and the thread on CAG.

My example:

I bought LA Noire, where they had a deal where you bought it, and you got any $20 game for free. For some reason, one of my games wouldn't work, even though it was $20.

I emailed the guy, who had me scan/photograph my receipt and email it. He replied that he would send me a gift card for $30, just like that.

If you have the option to go to a KMart, it is in your best interest to subscribe to them. The only drawbacks are [no pre-ordering] and [no CEs most of the time], and sometimes [low inventory]. I've had no issues, except I didn't get Dead Island due to lack of inventory. But they are strongly working on it, etc.

If you are a stingy cheapo, you can easily hop on their "coupon train" and save up to $20 per game if you pick your route.

Here's my current setup:

Gears 3 ($60) (technically $30 because I had that LA Noire card from the story) -> $20 coupon

Dead Rising ($20) -> $15 coupon

Batman ($45) -> $30 coupon

Saints 3 (or any other November game) -> possibility of $20 coupon

On and on
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 11, 2011, 02:03:47 PM
those are really good deals!

fuck, i live like 1/4 of a mile away from a k-mart, too
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 11, 2011, 02:08:31 PM
I guess the major thing is that, normally you would have to argue with a Manager about these deals. If anyone at the store is giving you lip, you can take solace in the fact that the actual higher-ups will listen. They will literally send that store an email or something and say "you guys are shit, fix this" - he posts on CAG and gets pretty pissed at all the bad stories.

I told the guy about my store, and how they kept everything behind the glass, mostly Clearance games.

I later went there and suddenly the shelf next to the glass was -filled- with all these clearance games.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 11, 2011, 03:01:44 PM
I'd use TAS suit if you had the option of turning the everyone else in the game TAS like.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 11, 2011, 06:27:11 PM
KMart has a $30 coupon if you buy it there. Get hype

Buy Batman, get Saints 3 for $30? yes plz

Fuck I hate the Seattle area, there are like no K-marts within realistic driving distance. Goddamn yuppie hellpit

There's a K-Mart in North Seattle on Aurora.

Holy shit there it is...right across from a Dollar Tree and a Ross's. Hmm, wonder if it's worth it to go that far north

How's your Yuppie Hellpit Theory working out now, Sho Nuff?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 11, 2011, 07:50:37 PM
It remains the same, my surroundings are dominated by upscale minimalls with Yoga and Pilates studios
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 11, 2011, 08:43:53 PM
It remains the same, my surroundings are dominated by upscale minimalls with Yoga and Pilates studios

Get. Out. Of. East Side. Suburbia. Now.

Come to Seattle, we've got cool shit.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 11, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Game Informer Review

spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 11, 2011, 10:18:15 PM
Kevin Conrad?

Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 11, 2011, 10:20:36 PM
i came

still need to play the first :(
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 11, 2011, 10:23:59 PM
Knightfall sucked, game looks :hyper
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Raban on October 12, 2011, 12:04:27 AM
Kevin Conrad?

:rofl
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 12, 2011, 12:10:01 AM
I never would have believed, at the start of this gen, that a really awesome Batman game would get released. I guess Nolan is good for something (reinvigorating the brand). Also still need to play Arkham Asylum.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 12, 2011, 12:10:42 AM
It remains the same, my surroundings are dominated by upscale minimalls with Yoga and Pilates studios

Then it's time to go "window shopping."
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2011, 02:33:07 AM
It remains the same, my surroundings are dominated by upscale minimalls with Yoga and Pilates studios

Get. Out. Of. East Side. Suburbia. Now.

Come to Seattle, we've got cool shit.

Yeah I know, but I ain't driving that fucking bridge every day, nooooosir
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 12, 2011, 03:46:51 AM
Game looks great.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 13, 2011, 12:32:17 AM
First hour of the game

http://www.twitch.tv/dakoe3/b/297335238
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 13, 2011, 01:11:06 AM
CAUSE THATS WHAT I WANT TO WATCH
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 13, 2011, 02:51:18 AM
First hour of the game

http://www.twitch.tv/dakoe3/b/297335238

 :o @ that intro
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: tiesto on October 13, 2011, 08:51:35 AM
It remains the same, my surroundings are dominated by upscale minimalls with Yoga and Pilates studios

Girls in yoga pants :drool
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: maxy on October 13, 2011, 10:44:00 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-13-batman-online-pass-unlocks-catwoman (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-13-batman-online-pass-unlocks-catwoman)

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The Batman: Arkham City online pass unlocks Catwoman as a playable character, it has been revealed.

Streams of the game being played reveal that Catwoman is only playable for those who have bought a new copy of the game or buy a code.

"Catwoman is a unique character with her own story, moves, and weapons. Unlock Catwoman by redeeming the 1st purchaser included in the game case or by visiting Xbox Live Marketplace," says the game's title screen.

Eurogamer has had this verified with a source.

Batman: Arkham City's VIP pass unlocks four story scenes that feature Catwoman as a playable character.

It also unlocks Catwoman as a playable character in challenge mode (called Riddler's Revenge).

Without the VIP pass code, Catwoman still appears in the game as part of the story, but her playable missions remain locked.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 13, 2011, 11:06:10 AM
Locking single player content with a fucking online pass.  Just great.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 13, 2011, 11:09:25 AM
Locking single player content with a fucking online pass.  Just great.

They have to do that though to pay for the dedicated servers! oh wait...
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 13, 2011, 11:09:26 AM
She has trophies/achievements too
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 13, 2011, 11:24:44 AM
hmm, i think am probably gonna wait for a price drop

i'm not one of those high-horse types who refuses to buy games that have content locked with online passes, but i don't like supporting it, so i have sort of established a personal rule of waiting until these kinds of games at least drop to half price

i know that isn't gonna mean shit as far as having an effect on the sales of these games, i just think it's a shitty practice and it makes me lose all desire to pay full price
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 13, 2011, 11:29:37 AM
hmm, i think am probably gonna wait for a price drop

i'm not one of those high-horse types who refuses to buy games that have content locked with online passes, but i don't like supporting it, so i have sort of established a personal rule of waiting until these kinds of games at least drop to half price

i know that isn't gonna mean shit as far as having an effect on the sales of these games, i just think it's a shitty practice and it makes me lose all desire to pay full price

Sho Nuff is patient and has ladies who can fill his time until Batman drops to $34.99
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 13, 2011, 11:48:43 AM
I was already planning on buying this day-one, so this doesn't really upset me.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: maxy on October 13, 2011, 11:59:06 AM
confirmed

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Warner Bros. has confirmed to Eurogamer that the Batman: Arkham City VIP pass unlocks playable Catwoman content.

On Xbox 360 the Batman VIP pass costs 800 Microsoft Points. On PlayStation 3 it costs £7.99.

Warner issued Eurogamer the following statement: "Further to your story, players who purchase previously owned copies of Batman: Arkham City can access the playable Catwoman content for £7.99/ 800 Microsoft Points.

"Playing as Catwoman is not required to complete the game."
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 13, 2011, 12:06:13 PM
-Save $5 on used copy at Gamestop
-Spend $10 for online pass to unlock full game
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 13, 2011, 12:38:03 PM
Waiting for PC version here, mid-nov
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: bork on October 13, 2011, 01:02:55 PM
I was already planning on buying this day-one, so this doesn't really upset me.

Yup.  It's only an issue if you buy used.  This game will drop in price to prices matching or lower than the shitty used price that Gamestop will sell it for anyway.

I can understand the complaints, but what I don't understand are the complaints coming from people are buying the game at launch or the people who are now saying they will not buy the game because of this.  Uh...redeem the code and play.  What's the problem here? 
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 13, 2011, 01:06:15 PM
-Save $5 on used copy at Gamestop
-Spend $10 for online pass to unlock full game

I actually don't mind this part as it's a definite FU to Gamestop
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 13, 2011, 01:08:32 PM
I was already planning on buying this day-one, so this doesn't really upset me.

Yup.  It's only an issue if you buy used.  This game will drop in price to prices matching or lower than the shitty used price that Gamestop will sell it for anyway.

I can understand the complaints, but what I don't understand are the complaints coming from people are buying the game at launch or the people who are now saying they will not buy the game because of this.  Uh...redeem the code and play.  What's the problem here? 

as i said, because i think it is a shitty practice which i do not wish to support, even for games i was going to buy at release anyway

Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: bork on October 13, 2011, 01:11:11 PM
I was already planning on buying this day-one, so this doesn't really upset me.

Yup.  It's only an issue if you buy used.  This game will drop in price to prices matching or lower than the shitty used price that Gamestop will sell it for anyway.

I can understand the complaints, but what I don't understand are the complaints coming from people are buying the game at launch or the people who are now saying they will not buy the game because of this.  Uh...redeem the code and play.  What's the problem here? 

as i said, because i think it is a shitty practice which i do not wish to support, even for games i was going to buy at release anyway

But you are going to end up buying it, correct?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 13, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
I don't have a problem with people who are protesting this practice by not buying the game. I just personally don't view it as something to be that upset about.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 13, 2011, 01:14:44 PM
-Save $5 on used copy at Gamestop
-Spend $10 for online pass to unlock full game

I actually don't mind this part as it's a definite FU to Gamestop

The problem is the buck isn't getting passed to Gamestop.  It's not like they're altering the price of their used games because of online passes; they're not even obligated to inform you you'll be buying a gimped product.  This is an FU to the people who shop at Gamestop.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 13, 2011, 01:15:22 PM
at a heavily discounted price

i don't think i'll keel over dead from the stress of waiting to play a game which will be exactly the same a couple of months from now at $35 during a holiday sale
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 13, 2011, 01:18:04 PM
and meanwhile, they keep handing exclusive content to gamestop

"Fuck you, Gamestop, for taking the food out of our mouths!  Oh, btw, could you put your dick in there instead?"
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 13, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
Say your FU to GameStop by buying at KMart :rock
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 13, 2011, 01:20:46 PM
i haven't seen a kmart in years dude
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 13, 2011, 01:20:48 PM
Gamestop isn't hurt by any of these practices. They still sell the game used. And people will still buy it used. The only people getting screwed here are normal consumers because we lose rights on our ability to sell goods second hand. People need to stop this "Screw Gamestop!" shit because we are the ones getting screwed. 

I'm no idiot though. This is the way things are going in the future. It still annoys me how companies have to lie though to justify what they are doing. (EA: "We need to pay for servers" on used copies) Just have the balls to say we don't want you selling our software and we will screw you any chance we get to stop you from doing so. It's their right. But at least be honest about what is going on.

That being said I'll still play (meaning rent and beat Batman through Gamefly.) I'll even consider buying the pass based on how much content I'm missing. So I'm very realistic about the whole thing. There are other games I would never touch or buy because of online passes. But Batman most likely will be so good that I'll hold my nose and do what it takes. I go on a case by case basis.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 13, 2011, 01:37:35 PM
Say your FU to GameStop by buying at KMart :rock

 :bow KMART :bow2

TRU is doing a buy 2, get 1 from the 16th through the 22nd, too.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 13, 2011, 01:59:50 PM
Say your FU to GameStop by buying at KMart :rock

 :bow KMART :bow2

TRU is doing a buy 2, get 1 from the 16th through the 22nd, too.

Meh... KMart is doing technically B1 G1 50% off. TRU's deal works out to ~$44 each game
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: bork on October 13, 2011, 02:30:23 PM
at a heavily discounted price

i don't think i'll keel over dead from the stress of waiting to play a game which will be exactly the same a couple of months from now at $35 during a holiday sale

Might as well wait for the inevitable GOTY edition.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 13, 2011, 03:15:32 PM
Got every Riddler challenge done in AA. Got all the Arkham story things too, last one was real hard. Started a game on hard mode, and it's not too bad, it's just hard adjusting because I'm so accustomed to the button prompts.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 13, 2011, 07:17:07 PM
In Batman:AA, I hadn't realized there are no combat prompts in Hard mode. :lol -- I'd never make it through that.

re:online pass
It's maybe unkind to the customers who are on a play-and-flip-for-credit schedule. They're getting less, gamestop is probably not making any less. It's a little sad that things have come to this: locked on-disc content at launch.  :-\

As a developer, and as someone who wants to see other developers get paid, I try to buy new and buy close to launch if it's something in which I'm interested (though this is frequently influenced by The Backlog).

I wish there was a PR campaign by a joint venture of publishers, saying "If you buy used, you're the store's customer. If you buy new, your our customer."

I'm well-familiar with the argument about reselling books and music, but videogames as a medium have a much shorter shelf-life.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: pilonv1 on October 13, 2011, 07:31:46 PM
Are there other industries who when faced with decline nickel and dime their existing customers into oblivion rather than adjust their strategy?

There probably are but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 13, 2011, 07:54:08 PM
Yes. Many, in fact. Let's take the auto industry.

It's the equivalent of buying a new car. You buy a new car and you get satellite radio and sweet shit on top of the purchase of the vehicle. Buy used, and you won't get cool features like that because you aren't directly supporting x car maker, you're supporting x car dealer.

This is the same idea. If you buy new, and support WB games and Rocksteady, you get Catwoman playable. After all, you're a paying support of Rocksteady. Catwoman is the satellite radio equivalent. Not required, but a bonus and it comes with the game for free if you buy new. If you buy used, you are supporting whoever you bought it from -- in most cases, Gamestop -- and in order to play as Catwoman you need to shell out some bucks on top of that used game. Makes sense.

This punishes used games sells and most definitely punishes used game sellers by taking back customers that are lost in the used game market.

You guys should be glad they're doing this as it's a total fuck off to Gamestop, who sucks. Why are you even complaining? Buy new, no problems. The game will likely be available for 40 bucks new on amazon in one month or two anyways, so stop bitching and shut the fuck up. The only people who are being nickel and dimed in this case are people who are buying used. If you buy new, this does not affect you in any way.

Batman: Arkham City is a fine way of handling dlc. Saints Row the Third and its multiple dlc's (cheats have to be bought through dlc now fyi) aren't.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 13, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
how about you shut the fuck up, corporate asskisser
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 13, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
also your used car argument is bullshit, you can buy used cars with satellite radios and all those sweet features, they don't strip them out of the car just because it's used
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 13, 2011, 08:16:41 PM
Guess what, sometimes something good happens and you just want to celebrate by buying a sweet new car with satellite radio.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: pilonv1 on October 13, 2011, 08:17:48 PM
And they don't strip them out of new cars. They may try to get you to buy a lot of extra items but they don't take away 3rd gear or something.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 13, 2011, 09:08:52 PM
jesus christ, himu  :-\

The car argument, really?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 13, 2011, 09:11:54 PM
And sometimes they tear out the carpet and break off the antenna. A nice bonus sure, but not really necessary.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 13, 2011, 09:16:27 PM
fuck this VIP pass shit, don't support this turd.

edit: actually read the thread. It's not as bad if you get the pass by buying the game new, but locked on-disc content is still a cop out.

Whats worse is the morans who forked out for 'epic' edition of GoW3 (can't remember how much it was but it was 3 digits) don't even get the GoW VIP pass. Owned
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 13, 2011, 09:20:45 PM
and it's on the disc!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 13, 2011, 09:21:20 PM
Oh wait, you have to have the code AND be online to use the catwoman stuff? That sucks.

Since when has this been true for any DLC. You just have to use the code, then you DL the DLC.

The whole "issue" is for people who dont have internet available, or some luddite excuse.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: pilonv1 on October 13, 2011, 09:34:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/oAGkE.gif)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Positive Touch on October 13, 2011, 09:39:22 PM
if i wanted to give my money to a good cause, i'd don't to a charity, not a fucking multi-million dollar videogame company.

and hey, since i buy used, i can afford to donate money to charities!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: pilonv1 on October 13, 2011, 11:04:46 PM
Oscar eloquently stating my point in a way I never could :bow2
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 14, 2011, 05:14:37 AM
Read that AC's content is locked out when you're offline.

Now THAT grinds my gears.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: maxy on October 14, 2011, 05:30:41 AM
Were did you read that?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 14, 2011, 05:45:04 AM
SA
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2011, 09:18:09 AM
http://www.giantbomb.com/batman-arkham-city/61-29443/reviews/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-14-batman-arkham-city-review
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/119/1199705p1.html
http://www.1up.com/reviews/batman-arkham-city-xbox-ps3
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/14/batman-arkham-city-review/
http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/batman-arkham-city/video/6340098/batman-arkham-city-video-review
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/batman-arkham-city/12467
http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/63090/batman-arkham-city/review/
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 14, 2011, 10:06:13 AM
Niiiiiice.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2011, 10:24:39 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ZqEa19tHU&hd=1[/youtube]

Hopefully Gamefly comes through for me.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 14, 2011, 11:02:18 AM
it is, on the internet
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 14, 2011, 11:05:45 AM
Destructoid gave it an 8.5. They are clearly terrorists that hate freedom.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2011, 11:14:54 AM
You guys should be glad they're doing this as it's a total fuck off to Gamestop, who sucks.


 :lol

Yeah, they are really fucking Gamestop over.


Quote
The Batman: Arkham City new copy-only Catwoman content issue won't be affecting used sales at GameStop, as an internal memo reveals that customers purchasing the game preowned will score a Catwoman code as well.

Sent to us by an anonymous tipster and since verified with GameStop retail locations, used copies of Batman: Arkham City will feature a code to download the full Catwoman content pack printed on the customer's receipt. Normally this code would only be available in a new copy of the game, with second-hand owners forced to purchase the content as a $10 download.

GameStop and Warner Bros. had a similar deal in place for Mortal Kombat, allowing the retailer to print out online passes with used copies so customers would avoid the additional purchase.

We've reached out to Warner Bros. to clarify the reasoning behind the move, which seems to counteract the purpose of having the code in new copies in the first place.

http://kotaku.com/5849828/dont-fret-used-gamers-gamestop-has-catwoman-codes-for-preowned-arkham-city-purchasers
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 14, 2011, 11:16:36 AM
You guys should be glad they're doing this as it's a total fuck off to Gamestop, who sucks.


 :lol

Yeah, they are really fucking Gamestop over.


Quote
The Batman: Arkham City new copy-only Catwoman content issue won't be affecting used sales at GameStop, as an internal memo reveals that customers purchasing the game preowned will score a Catwoman code as well.

Sent to us by an anonymous tipster and since verified with GameStop retail locations, used copies of Batman: Arkham City will feature a code to download the full Catwoman content pack printed on the customer's receipt. Normally this code would only be available in a new copy of the game, with second-hand owners forced to purchase the content as a $10 download.

GameStop and Warner Bros. had a similar deal in place for Mortal Kombat, allowing the retailer to print out online passes with used copies so customers would avoid the additional purchase.

We've reached out to Warner Bros. to clarify the reasoning behind the move, which seems to counteract the purpose of having the code in new copies in the first place.

http://kotaku.com/5849828/dont-fret-used-gamers-gamestop-has-catwoman-codes-for-preowned-arkham-city-purchasers

>:(
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2011, 11:19:15 AM
Hey man, now they are fucking over Gamefly. Who suck I guess. Or me as the average consumer. Who I also assume must suck!

How dare I sell or give their game to a friend.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 14, 2011, 11:20:38 AM
Lending copies to friends is killing the industry.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 14, 2011, 12:14:17 PM
Wow, this is even scuzzier than it first appeared.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: archie4208 on October 14, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
Can't wait to buy the GOTY edition for $5 on a Steam sale.  :bow2
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 14, 2011, 12:50:54 PM
"i hate you, let's fuck"
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 14, 2011, 12:58:01 PM
Read that AC's content is locked out when you're offline.

Now THAT grinds my gears.

Huh? Are you just saying that people who don't have internet connections are screwed because they can't download the stuff, or do you have to be online to play the extra content you've already downloaded?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2011, 01:00:58 PM
To be fair there are two interpretations to what they are doing.

A.) Gamestop paid Warner a certain amount of money for these codes. or
B.) Gamestop said fuck you Warner, we'll order a smaller amount of Batman and Warner just gave up the codes.

Either way its not like Warner is some noble giant looking out for gamers.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 14, 2011, 01:21:46 PM
Read that AC's content is locked out when you're offline.

Now THAT grinds my gears.

Huh? Are you just saying that people who don't have internet connections are screwed because they can't download the stuff, or do you have to be online to play the extra content you've already downloaded?

The second, apparently.  Like Capcom's PSN drm.

Now that's the kind of stuff I hate. Let's hope PSN doesn't go down again. :maf
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 14, 2011, 01:52:30 PM
I bought Arkham City for $25 and all my money went to some random Gaffer who got the codes for free.  8)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2011, 01:54:42 PM
I bought Arkham City for $25 and all my money went to some random Gaffer who got the codes for free.  8)

Buying games at discount is worse than piracy. You are starving poor hard working devs.

For what its worth this is my last post on this stuff. I honestly don't really care about this "issue". It is what it is and all the internet arguing about it doesn't change one damn thing. Hopefully I get the game next week and am able to talk about actual gameplay stuff.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 14, 2011, 07:15:24 PM
Oh wow, apparently Catwoman dlc is substantial and not on the disc.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: pilonv1 on October 14, 2011, 08:37:09 PM
This is all sorts of distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Positive Touch on October 14, 2011, 08:55:49 PM
cant wait to get the complete game with no hassles for absolutely free

fuck viewing gaming as a charity
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 14, 2011, 09:47:34 PM
When is batman out on PC?

Sometimes in November.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2011, 01:14:02 AM
Note to Rocksteady: putting minions in every boss fight or mid-boss fight does not always equate to tension or even good boss design. STOP USING THEM. The boss fights in Arkham Asylum are shit, and this is coming from someone who loves the combat system in your game, due to the over-reliance of minions in fights that make absolutely no sense (hint: Poison Ivy). I hope to god that AC's bosses do not have the same issue.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 16, 2011, 01:20:41 AM
lol. it was their first batman game... save your complaints for after you beat Arkham City.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2011, 02:13:25 AM
I saw Robin in that trailer, so he must have a part in the story.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2011, 02:22:34 AM
Robin/Nightwing is dlc. You can get it for free if you buy from best buy.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2011, 02:26:50 AM
Robin/Nightwing is dlc. You can get it for free if you buy from best buy.

I know that he's playable DLC, but it seemed more like he has a brief appearance in the actual storyline.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2011, 03:03:04 AM
That'd be great, especially since it's the BEST ROBIN. :hyper
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2011, 04:49:33 AM
1970's Batman footage. No spoilers.

[youtube=560,345]1MpO0JhUD-g[/youtube]
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 17, 2011, 03:07:58 AM
[youtube=560,345]GmDNVlBm4OA[/youtube]

holy fuck
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 17, 2011, 03:12:26 AM
Can't wait to play this...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...3 months from now when it's $34.99
[close]

kekekekekekeke
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 17, 2011, 08:31:42 AM
Can't wait to play this...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...3 months from now when it's $34.99
[close]

kekekekekekeke

:rofl

wait, i get to pay that much on release date

:bow kmart
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 17, 2011, 08:44:42 AM
Can't wait to play this...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...3 months from now when it's $34.99
[close]

kekekekekekeke

i'm gonna be playing it early next month and i only payed $33.99.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 17, 2011, 10:08:25 AM
Can't wait to play this...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...3 months from now when it's $34.99
[close]

kekekekekekeke

:rofl

wait, i get to pay that much on release date

:bow kmart

i may break weak because of this deal
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 17, 2011, 10:32:07 AM
to be fair i have a coupon from previous purchases : x
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 17, 2011, 11:42:07 AM
koo let me know how it is ok i care
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 17, 2011, 12:10:34 PM
Gamefly shipped my copy so I should have it Tuesday or Wednesday.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2011, 01:28:05 PM
Amazon shipped my copy this morning, will be here tomorrow but I've got work until 6 and then I'm going to the Sounders v. Monterrey CONCACAF game.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 17, 2011, 01:56:20 PM
I wouldnt recommend it for people who didnt play AA, since they are interwoven...
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 17, 2011, 02:08:50 PM
fuck i knew i shoudlve beat arkham asylum  :-\
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2011, 02:38:07 PM
fuck i knew i shoudlve beat arkham asylum  :-\

You've had two years to beat it.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 17, 2011, 02:39:14 PM
Time flies when you're busy trolling.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 17, 2011, 02:39:44 PM
i got it the day it came out and quit playing it on ps3 then i bought it on pc like a year ago and never ogt aorund to it i work alot
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2011, 03:19:39 PM
i got it the day it came out and quit playing it on ps3 then i bought it on pc like a year ago and never ogt aorund to it i work alot

You've had two years to beat it.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: FatalT on October 17, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
i got it the day it came out and quit playing it on ps3 then i bought it on pc like a year ago and never ogt aorund to it i work alot

You've had two years to beat it.

HE WORKS A LOT OKAY, GOSH!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 17, 2011, 03:50:16 PM
hard working white man
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 17, 2011, 04:03:54 PM
im sorry i have to live in a white economy neighborhood and have to work three jobs to support my family because of stereotypes
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2011, 04:16:40 PM
You have a family now?

:lol
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Raban on October 17, 2011, 04:33:17 PM
He's got five kids to feed!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 17, 2011, 04:41:55 PM
His job as an international secret agent doesn't pay as well as you'd think.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 17, 2011, 04:54:33 PM
i meant me mum and me cats
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 17, 2011, 07:30:05 PM
He's got five kids to feed!

Total Recall?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Raban on October 17, 2011, 09:41:11 PM
He's got five kids to feed!

Total Recall?

Isn't this Methodis?
(http://i.imgur.com/kIB2n.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2011, 11:55:22 PM
Batman Beyond skin DLC free with purchase of NOS:

http://www.drinknos.com/rewards.do?itemId=15766
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 18, 2011, 01:31:34 AM
im sorry i have to live in a white economy neighborhood and have to work three jobs to support my family because of stereotypes

amazing
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 18, 2011, 01:33:42 AM
Hey guys if you go to Gamestop in Tukwila you can meet Phoenix Jones, he's buying his copy at the midnight launch  :lol

(http://morallowground.com/wp-content/uploads/phoenix-jones-e1294365827986.jpg)

Fuck...if there was a Phoenix Jones skin...day one
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2011, 03:13:39 AM
This game is amazing. The sheer amount of content is nuts. I'm getting side tracked every minute.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2011, 04:06:07 AM
This game is much more difficult than Arkham Asylum. I recent completed AA on hard and did most of the challenge rooms, getting most of the challenge room medals and more, so I can directly compare AC to AA since AA is fresh on my mind. AA usually had gargoyles nearby if you needed a place to escape, not so much in AC. In AC, you may not have a place to escape to, and even if you do, the enemies have wizened up and will simply throw a grenade after you if you stay in one place.

You need to plan escape routes, escape plans, a opening, a plan to separate armed hostiles and more. Fucking fantastic gameplay.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 18, 2011, 08:19:32 AM
Batman Beyond skin DLC free with purchase of NOS:

http://www.drinknos.com/rewards.do?itemId=15766

If anyone gets an extra, please hook a borito up. No NOS in Japan. Golly, we only JUST got Red Bull last year.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 18, 2011, 08:49:52 AM
Wow, that was easy.  My K-Mart doesn't use the cards, they just take your number and email address.  The coupon printed right at the register.  So now you know the price of my principles - a $30 gaming coupon.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 18, 2011, 08:52:42 AM
:bow KMart

Welcome to the coupon train
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 18, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Yeah, thanks for the heads-up about that.  If I'd known it was that easy and catch-free I'd have started using them a lot sooner.  The only other new games I want this year are BF3 and Skyrim, but I want those for PC, and K-Mart doesn't do PC games.  It's good through 12/3, I might just save it for closer to the holidays and see what other specials come up.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 18, 2011, 09:03:55 AM
KMart -does- do PC, but mostly "exclusive" ones. My story carries Starcraft, The Witcher 2... New Vegas

It's very YMMV with a lot of things, unrelated to PC though.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 18, 2011, 09:11:24 AM
Yeah, mine only does the "150 Puzzle Games!" type of PC games  :-\
 
Just got a "digital receipt" email, I guess it is for printing up the coupons if you lose them.  That's pretty neat, I don't know of any other store which does that with in-store purchases.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 18, 2011, 09:14:02 AM
Yea, I just printed my coupon out because I was in a rush to get in to the office this morning. KMart is the best. You can also earn points on your account for any purchase in the store, which can be applied to your game/next purchase.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 18, 2011, 09:44:59 AM
game is going to be a stinker, enjoy your locked content
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 18, 2011, 09:52:00 AM
no problem, i'll just pay to unlock it. enjoy being poor.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 18, 2011, 10:02:46 AM
$30 gaming coupon, man
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 18, 2011, 11:53:50 AM
i cant figure out any of this riddler challenges fuck this game
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 18, 2011, 02:09:45 PM
Hey guys if you go to Gamestop in Tukwila you can meet Phoenix Jones, he's buying his copy at the midnight launch  :lol

(http://morallowground.com/wp-content/uploads/phoenix-jones-e1294365827986.jpg)

Fuck...if there was a Phoenix Jones skin...day one

:lol
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 18, 2011, 02:10:51 PM
Batman Beyond skin DLC free with purchase of NOS:

http://www.drinknos.com/rewards.do?itemId=15766

If anyone gets an extra, please hook a borito up. No NOS in Japan. Golly, we only JUST got Red Bull last year.

I will take one for the team and buy two cans of NOS today. I will get you a code, good sir. I owe you for all the PSN Moonbuck Cards you've gotten for me.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 18, 2011, 04:22:11 PM
Ok Chrono, I got you a can of NOS. I'll send you the code tomorrow, I think my heart is ready to stop after drinking the first can. Need to rest :lol
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2011, 05:32:24 PM

I don't like the Catwoman dlc. It's alright but it feels obtrusive, because once you've installed it, the game flips between Catwoman and Batman. If Batman's doing one thing, it flips to Catwoman doing something else. Plus, her move list is limited compared to Bats, and the end result just feels watered down. I don't think Catwoman really adds anything to the game but it's an alright bonus.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 18, 2011, 05:49:44 PM
Weird. My game occasionally crashed when it tried to load on a black screen. Hard Freezes my xbox for some reason.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MCD on October 18, 2011, 05:51:59 PM
Clear cache? The solution to all 360 problems.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 18, 2011, 05:55:26 PM

I don't like the Catwoman dlc. It's alright but it feels obtrusive, because once you've installed it, the game flips between Catwoman and Batman. If Batman's doing one thing, it flips to Catwoman doing something else. Plus, her move list is limited compared to Bats, and the end result just feels watered down. I don't think Catwoman really adds anything to the game but it's an alright bonus.

Selling my DLC code.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 18, 2011, 07:58:31 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm this game is so good. It's a big Arkham Asylum. I love the Riddler Challenges. I'm just flying around doing whatever.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Akala on October 18, 2011, 08:14:25 PM
is it just the general NOS codes? I like the grape kind, if anyone needs a code let me know.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: bork on October 18, 2011, 10:46:16 PM

I don't like the Catwoman dlc. It's alright but it feels obtrusive, because once you've installed it, the game flips between Catwoman and Batman. If Batman's doing one thing, it flips to Catwoman doing something else. Plus, her move list is limited compared to Bats, and the end result just feels watered down. I don't think Catwoman really adds anything to the game but it's an alright bonus.

Selling my DLC code.

Don't.  The Catwoman "DLC" is clearly meant to be part of the game.  She doesn't have as many gadgets as Batman, but she doesn't feel watered-down and plays differently than he does.  There are story segments for her as well...would assume the character I am supposed to find means a boss fight as well.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: bork on October 18, 2011, 10:46:57 PM
is it just the general NOS codes? I like the grape kind, if anyone needs a code let me know.

I'll take one if you get an extra.  If not I'll see if I can hunt down a can tomorrow.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2011, 10:58:49 PM
Batman is RUTHLESS in this.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
He just took out Mr. Freeze's ice canister out of his body just to make him talk
[close]

COLD BLOODED
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2011, 11:04:25 PM
this game > metal gear solid 4 lmao
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 18, 2011, 11:12:14 PM
I was too scared ot try, but can you explore the entire city from the start? I might get OCD trying to go for Riddler trophies and such before even doing the first "level"
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2011, 11:21:15 PM
I was too scared ot try, but can you explore the entire city from the start? I might get OCD trying to go for Riddler trophies and such before even doing the first "level"

Yes you can. You can also SCAN the riddler trophies you can't reach and the game will save their location to your map so you can come back later.  :o
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 18, 2011, 11:21:36 PM
Flying and gliding is so bad ass. Once you get the hang of it you can do some amazing stuff. And the Grapnel boost is awesome.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2011, 11:29:20 PM
Holy shit, they fixed my biggest complain about AA! The shitty boss fights! They're like Zelda/Metal Gear now! :o
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 18, 2011, 11:31:17 PM
I thought I'd love it like I did AA, but I'm not really enjoying it all that much so far , just feels like I'm going through the motions :-\
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2011, 12:00:50 AM
I thought I'd love it like I did AA, but I'm not really enjoying it all that much so far , just feels like I'm going through the motions :-\

I''m enjoying it alot so far mainly because of the mechanics but I didn't find the initial hook as compelling as I did in the original but I assume the story will pick up and draw me in. I'm not really a collect-a-thon person so all that kind of stuff in the game doesn't overly interest me.

The initial opening with the joker in the first and being wheeled into the asylum was brilliant. I found this one less so.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 12:06:33 AM
I don't find it as addictive as AA, but the core game is better, I think. The problem is that this one is more open, whereas AA is more tightly designed. I loved the game when I stay on the story path.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 19, 2011, 01:55:01 AM
Check yer PMs, Chrono. You've got a code. I downed the second can of NOS while driving to the Sounders game tonight. Still just a bit wired!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 19, 2011, 07:55:14 AM
Check yer PMs, Chrono. You've got a code. I downed the second can of NOS while driving to the Sounders game tonight. Still just a bit wired!

:bow NOS-powered GUNDAM RX :bow2

Thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 19, 2011, 10:36:43 AM
In my short time playing, I do have one nitpick: The constant radio chatter
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 19, 2011, 11:06:24 AM
It's overwhelming how much stuff there is to do right out of the gate considering the game doesn't really run you through the "tutorial" unless you play the story.  And am I mistaken or can you not scan Riddler trophies until the game introduces the concept to you?  I still can't seem to get it to scan the fluorescent Riddler question marks in the city - I'm assuming that's because it hasn't "taught" me how to do it yet.  Pretty irritating.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 11:11:46 AM
you can't scan riddler trophies until the game introduces it.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2011, 11:29:22 AM
It's overwhelming how much stuff there is to do right out of the gate considering the game doesn't really run you through the "tutorial" unless you play the story.  And am I mistaken or can you not scan Riddler trophies until the game introduces the concept to you?  I still can't seem to get it to scan the fluorescent Riddler question marks in the city - I'm assuming that's because it hasn't "taught" me how to do it yet.  Pretty irritating.

The game does overwhelm you at first. Before I knew it I was running around the city trying to answer phones and I wasn't sure if it was main mission stuff or side mission stuff at the time.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 19, 2011, 12:42:25 PM
I played about an hour. Don't like it as much as the original so far. I was really hesitant about the open-world move, and so far that queasiness has paid off. I'm just gonna blinder my way through the story until such point as I feel like exploring off the beaten path.

More importantly, I wish I had never installed the Catwoman DLC. It interrupts my Batman game to make me play some other, lesser game I have no interest in. Save your codes.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2011, 01:36:06 PM
http://community.batmanarkhamcity.com/forums/showthread.php/6544-Black-screen-when-booting-up-the-Game

I'm not the only one having this issue.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 19, 2011, 01:42:16 PM
i really like it, and possibly better than aa. the catwoman dlc *is* annoying, though, and i wish i hadn't installed it. on the other hand, who gives a fuck about story? i like traipsing around the little crazy city explorin' shit and DOIN' BAT THANGZ.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 19, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
also: DEM GRAPHICS. uncha am cry
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 01:58:16 PM
it pretends it doesn't exist

though, catwoman has red riddler trophies even if you play as batman. not sure if those appear in a catwoman-less game.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on October 19, 2011, 02:05:06 PM
I'd give up and buy this on 360 if I didn't already own it on PC from my graphics card.  whatevs.  tessellation is worth a one month wait.  look at dem bumps.   


:fbm
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 19, 2011, 02:21:32 PM
The Catwoman content doesn't SUCK, it just feels out of place and intrusive interrupting the main story.  On its own as missions or something, it would probably be fine.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: bork on October 19, 2011, 03:39:13 PM
The Catwoman content doesn't SUCK, it just feels out of place and intrusive interrupting the main story.  On its own as missions or something, it would probably be fine.

It didn't seem intrusive to me, but I only did play up to the point where you first play as her in the main game.  Batman gets knocked out (OMG SPOILERS) and then it switches to her story.  Fine.  I'll take more game play!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 03:42:01 PM
if you start a new game after you have catwoman dlc dled, catwoman's part actually shows up before the game's intro.

i just don't like it. I'd rather it be its own mode so i can ignore the shit and just play as batman.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 19, 2011, 03:46:22 PM
The rest of the DLC isn't the same way, is it?  They're gonna turn this game into Batman & Friends.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 03:48:01 PM
dunno about robin dlc
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: bork on October 19, 2011, 03:59:07 PM
if you start a new game after you have catwoman dlc dled, catwoman's part actually shows up before the game's intro.

i just don't like it. I'd rather it be its own mode so i can ignore the shit and just play as batman.

Yeah, the part with her breaking into Two-Face's place?  That's the first thing I saw in the game, too.  Again I have no problem with this.  It felt like a regular part of the intro to me...all this shit is connected, after all.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 19, 2011, 04:40:43 PM
yeah, it's not a qualative thing, it's just like being forced to watch episodes of the spin-off show when I really want to keep mainlining the main series.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 19, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
dunno about robin dlc

Isn't Robin just a bunch of challenge missions, ala the Joker stuff from Arkham Asylum?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2011, 08:56:06 PM
Played it for a good bit now even though I would say I'm still relatively early. I definitely like it. How much I like it will sort of depend on how the main storyline progresses. There is definitely a ton of shit to do. It's like they threw in the entire kitchen sink and every villain they could which is both a good thing and bad thing in a weird way. I find myself actually doing the side missions because they are worthwhile and interesting but I find that they tend to dilute the main plot and missions as I often forget what exactly I was doing on the main storyline. Which technically isn't a flaw but it does throw off the pacing for me a bit. But then I don't necessarily have that complaint in GTA or other open world style games which do the same thing. It's just that the first was so tight I kind of miss that a little bit.

I like the Catwomen stuff. I think she animates and has just a enough wrinkles to be interesting. I think its a nice change of pace occasionally and hopefully her story ends up being meaningful enough to the overall plot so that it doesn't just feel like she was shoehorned in there.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 09:21:06 PM
There's so many side quests that are turning dead ends for me. I try to more phonecall quests and no phones are ringing, I try to locate the assassin and can't get inside some building, I try to destroy more Titan formula and get inside the restricted zone and can't find one that's located at the Steel Mill.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 19, 2011, 09:22:36 PM
good, it forces you to continue the story.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2011, 09:23:55 PM
I don't go crazy on the side stuff so that doesn't really happen to me. I do some. Then do some story. And continue on with that cycle. By doing the story stuff I end up unlocking more stuff as I journey around and explore the world on the way to the next thing.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 19, 2011, 09:52:05 PM
i'm barreling through the story, warming up to it a bit more, seems like it's getting more linear as it goes along

i think i just like my batman games structured, is all
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 09:53:15 PM
The game IS linear despite all of the stuff to do if you stick on the story path.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 19, 2011, 09:55:56 PM
I haven't played it yet, nor do I know much about the game other than some of the trailers they've released, but what is stopping you from just plowing through the main game and doing side missions/Riddler trophies later?  I know the game is very open, but does the main story not progress unless you do some of the side missions, or what?

I feel like from what I've read here and other places, the game can be as linear as you want it, in the context of an open world environment.  It's just a matter of how the player approaches it --  if the player delves into a bunch of side missions, they are bound to get overwhelmed.  At least thats what it seems like to me.

edit: dammit himu, I typed a long post and you post that before I do.  Meh.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 10:10:52 PM
Yeah Demi. This game is far more Metroid-ish than AA. I went into the sewers earlier and noticed a huge gap. "I need the line launcher to get across." and later I get the line launcher, I immediately head for the sewers and the story continues. It has a totally different flow than AA.

AA was mostly about teasing the player, AC is mostly about discovery.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 19, 2011, 10:44:47 PM
oh, it isn't just that i don't like

- i don't like gliding, can never really get the hang of it, despised those Superman 64 "fly through hoops" training missions (which are required to get a particular gadget you need), of course there is a part in the game where you are required to glide and i have died like over a dozen times

- arkham city looks the same everywhere you go so i get disoriented easily

- a lot of trial and error and cheap deaths in some places because they don't give clear instructions/directions

i don't ask that a game hold my hand, but they really assume you have played the first game here and finished it - oh, about an hour before you started playing this one

i just don't really care for it, but i am gonna play it until sunday when, finished or not, it gets traded in towards bf3 so i can jeep jihad motherfuckers next week

i do think it's hilarious that the game manual is literally a tri-folded single sheet of paper while the Official Arkham City Merchandising Catalog™ is a dozen stapled pages
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 11:00:22 PM
Gliding takes practice. Dive bomb for only a few seconds to get some speed, then let go, glide, then grapple, as you grapple, grapnel boost (double tap A and then hold A, has to be learned from completing the first 3 or 4 AR tests), jump off object, repeat. The story will get you up to grips.

I just completed the
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league of shadows mission
[close]

This is the ultimate Batman game for any fan of the dark knight. Holy shit. This is easily the best game I've played this year aside from Portal 2.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2011, 11:07:03 PM
There is a bit of assumption at the start of this game that you played Arkham Asylum and recently. I played AA two years ago when it first came out so I certainly had forgotten some of the mechanics and some of them weren't explained so well this go around.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 19, 2011, 11:07:12 PM
Game is dumb, unfair, and thinks you beat the first game a hour ago like Eel said.

The fact that they don't explain anything is ridiculous. AA was 3 years ago how am I supposed to remember how to fight and solve riddles? It's ridiculous.

It's also ver yboring and feels all the same. Oh look it's another boring police headquarters location.


Oh and load times suck.


B-
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 19, 2011, 11:14:04 PM
:rofl

reviewers are saying shit like "I can not complain about any aspect of this game".  Fanboys for these Batman games are insufferable
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2011, 11:32:06 PM
And you're becoming an insufferable poster. :(
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 19, 2011, 11:32:58 PM
:rofl

I'm just mad I cant afford Batman
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 20, 2011, 12:08:41 AM
nah I've already played AA.

I'll just keep playing Dark Souls and get Batman when he's cheap  ;)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 20, 2011, 12:33:10 AM
http://www.vg247.com/2011/10/19/batman-arkham-city-plagued-by-dlc-code-snafu/

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2u6fzpl.jpg)

(http://www.ponychan.net/chan/arch/src/130457036593.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 20, 2011, 01:07:15 AM
:rofl

you couldnt make it up! Funniest part is the content is already on the disc, but people who have shelled out their cash day 1 can't validate their codes. LMAO

Will wait for GOTY edition
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 20, 2011, 01:20:14 AM
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/19/warner-solving-arkham-city-dlc-issue-with-a-simple-5-step-proces/
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 20, 2011, 02:19:51 AM
:rofl

"simple" 5 step process! This keeps getting better!

:bow locked on-disc content :bow2
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2011, 03:11:11 AM
Bought Oscar a NOS code for Batman Beyond skin cuz he's in Japan and has no access to NOS. I drank it a few hours ago, and I swear it made me form a second vagina. Holy crap (pun not intended) what the hell did that shit to my stomach?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 20, 2011, 12:11:09 PM
i don't ask that a game hold my hand, but they really assume you have played the first game here and finished it - oh, about an hour before you started playing this one

this, this, a thousand times this. I loved Arkham Asylum - it was my GOTY the year it came out - and I still feel completely underwater in Arkham City. It's getting better a few hours in, but Jesus Cristo it would be nice to gate your mechanics a bit
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2011, 12:12:53 PM
What are you guys talking about? When you unlock shit it tells you exactly how to use it. If you have played AA you should be able to remember how to use it, right? Or are you talking about combat? That's what the challenge rooms are for: getting better.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 20, 2011, 12:18:08 PM
What are you guys talking about? When you unlock shit it tells you exactly how to use it. If you have played AA you should be able to remember how to use it, right? Or are you talking about combat? That's what the challenge rooms are for: getting better.

Stop being hyper sensitive. And I should not have to enter a challenge room to figure out shit in a mainstream game like this. I'm enjoying the game a lot but it doesn't do a great job of teaching some mechanics. Especially compared to the first game which actually was great in that category.

I really like the game so far but I certainly had a few of those issues myself and I consider myself a "normal" gamer. Not a hardcore type.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2011, 12:25:52 PM
How am I being hyper sensitive? I'm asking for clarification. They say the game assumes you played AA an hour before AC, but it goes through its gameplay systems the EXACT same way AA did. Get new feature? It tells you how to use it with a message prompt, you use new ability, continue story.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 20, 2011, 12:30:44 PM
How am I being hyper sensitive? I'm asking for clarification. They say the game assumes you played AA an hour before AC, but it goes through its gameplay systems the EXACT same way AA did. Get new feature? It tells you how to use it with a message prompt, you use new ability, continue story.

There are more mechanics introduced right off the bat simply because the game world is more open world. Like I said I immediately by accident took a phone call mission when I started playing and had to figure out how to run across the world to the next phone. By then I was lost in the city and not where I needed to be. The game is simply more complex than Batman was which was a linear one room by one room game. AA introduced its mechanics much more slowly simply because of how the game was structured. Arkham City just by its design introduces a lot more to the player immediately and for a "normal" gamer I  see how that could be confusing. Side missions. Gliding. Fighting, Gagets, etc. It introduced a lot of mechanics right on top of each other and doesn't really linger around to ask did you understand that.

Arkham Asylum was much slower and deliberate by comparison.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 20, 2011, 12:48:46 PM
I did find the one building kind of hilarious where it was like, "throw a batarang! throw three batarangs! place explosive gel! fire the bathook! PENCILS UP!" It's not so much a mechanics review as a flashcard barrage
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 20, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
true talk: i stopped playing arkham city the first day

the misisons just aint fun. i stopped at the mission where you have to find freeze.

how much more is left in this turd




if anyone wants NOS codes my work sells them for 1.75. send me $1.80 and ill drink the nos and send u code
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 20, 2011, 02:17:28 PM
and now the game just red ringed my 3560 :piss
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 20, 2011, 06:49:03 PM
I did find the one building kind of hilarious where it was like, "throw a batarang! throw three batarangs! place explosive gel! fire the bathook! PENCILS UP!" It's not so much a mechanics review as a flashcard barrage

Holy SAT scores, Batman!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: drew on October 20, 2011, 07:57:05 PM
Bought Oscar a NOS code for Batman Beyond skin cuz he's in Japan and has no access to NOS. I drank it a few hours ago, and I swear it made me form a second vagina. Holy crap (pun not intended) what the hell did that shit to my stomach?

a...second vagina?

as in plural vagina.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 20, 2011, 07:57:58 PM
I did find the one building kind of hilarious where it was like, "throw a batarang! throw three batarangs! place explosive gel! fire the bathook! PENCILS UP!" It's not so much a mechanics review as a flashcard barrage

Holy SAT scores, Batman!

SAT ... sat. Who's famous for sitting? The proverbial cat, who sat on the mat. Mark my words, Robin, Catwoman's the one behind this horrible heist!

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Batman '66 > Arkham City
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Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 20, 2011, 08:31:51 PM
i would pay a premium price for a good 1960s Batman TV show game

i keep hoping that adam west and burt ward have secretly recorded commentary tracks for the TV show in the event one of them dies (adam west is 83, burt ward is 66) before the legal issues are worked out and it gets released on dvd/blu ray
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 20, 2011, 11:06:17 PM
Bought Oscar a NOS code for Batman Beyond skin cuz he's in Japan and has no access to NOS. I drank it a few hours ago, and I swear it made me form a second vagina. Holy crap (pun not intended) what the hell did that shit to my stomach?

a...second vagina?

as in plural vagina.

HIMU EXPLAIN THIS
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: FatalT on October 20, 2011, 11:09:46 PM
Yay I beat it! Time to rent something else.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2011, 11:10:56 PM
Bought Oscar a NOS code for Batman Beyond skin cuz he's in Japan and has no access to NOS. I drank it a few hours ago, and I swear it made me form a second vagina. Holy crap (pun not intended) what the hell did that shit to my stomach?

a...second vagina?

as in plural vagina.

HIMU EXPLAIN THIS

Well, the booty hole might as well be a man's vagina, after all, it's where our gspot is  :-[
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on October 20, 2011, 11:44:29 PM
touche!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2011, 10:42:03 AM
I fucking hate playing as Catwoman after getting Batman's grapnel boost. Seriously, this is torture. Go from flying all over the city without touching the ground to....whatever the fuck this is.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 21, 2011, 11:40:34 AM
i would pay a premium price for a good 1960s Batman TV show game

i keep hoping that adam west and burt ward have secretly recorded commentary tracks for the TV show in the event one of them dies (adam west is 83, burt ward is 66) before the legal issues are worked out and it gets released on dvd/blu ray

Well, there is Adam West's secret naked basement commentary DVD (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/08/24/adam-west-naked-batman/)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2011, 01:38:19 PM
Beat the game. That ending...was abrupt.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 21, 2011, 02:57:50 PM
I'm loving this game so much more now that I have a good grasp on the flight mechanics and am finally seeing some variety in the enemy type.  The standard grappling hook is just awful; the A.I. selection is overwhelmed with ledges to choose from and seems to pick them at random.  They really should've given you the boost from the beginning without having to do anything to get it and they certainly could've done a better job explaining exactly how the gliding works and the best way to move from place to place.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Having something like the Ra's segment closer to the beginning of the game would've been perfect.
[close]
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 21, 2011, 03:01:57 PM
Anyone play the Robin DLC?

Quote
On October 11, 2011, three Downloadable Content (DLC) packs were announced for release following that of the game. The first DLC is the Nightwing pack scheduled for November 1, 2011, containing Batman's ally Nightwing as a playable character for the game's challenge maps, an Animated Series alternative skin for the character,[68] and two additional challenge maps: "Wayne Manor" and "Main Hall".[69] The second pack is set to support the Catwoman story campaign by adding four new story-missions.[70] The third DLC, the Robin pack, is scheduled for November 22, 2011, and contains the Robin pre-order content: the playable character, alternate appearance skins and challenge maps.[68]
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 21, 2011, 05:59:17 PM
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/batman-arkham-city-official/id472027508?mt=8

Anyone who wants the full Arkham map including Riddler trophy locations.  iOS app!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 21, 2011, 06:00:25 PM
> $3

If you admit to buying this

:lol
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 21, 2011, 06:18:39 PM
it'll only be a matter of time until it's on installous  :shh
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 21, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
It's probably already available in Google Map format on some Xbox Achievement site... w/e though
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 21, 2011, 06:45:16 PM
Needs balloon/penguin/camera/teeth/etc locations.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2011, 11:02:47 PM
Personally think that's dumb
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2011, 11:30:31 PM
I love Batman Beyond, but I dunno man.

Honestly, I didn't like the ending. I loved the events leading up to the ending, but the ending itself? Jesus Christ, Rocksteady, I felt shafted.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 23, 2011, 01:33:05 AM
This game does a horrible job explaining stuff. I keep having to die then the game is like "lol... moron, you can do this you know."

I'm like... *turns off game*
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Herr Mafflard on October 23, 2011, 05:13:28 AM
^ Good thing you bought that guide for Dark Souls otherwise you'd probably kick your screen in :p
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 23, 2011, 11:16:25 AM
But the difference is Dark Souls is made for guides...
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Herr Mafflard on October 23, 2011, 12:10:58 PM
Yeah, true enough.

Speaking of loading screens, Dark Souls' has one where it has a picture and title of one its miracles, 'Homeward Bound', but the description for it on the screen is for a completely different spell. WTF!  I suppose the patch'll sort it out, though. Lol
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2011, 10:18:32 PM
Lotta quick time events in these boss battles...
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 23, 2011, 10:48:50 PM
Good, QTEs should be a staple for every boss fight
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 24, 2011, 09:40:42 PM
Beat the story. So far, I think I very much prefer the more "tight" Arkham Asylum.

The final fight pretty much sums it up.

"Wait, you aren't even supposed to BE here. WTF?"

"Oh, well, I felt like it. Surprise!"

That said, this fight was way more better than Asylum's. It's really give and take between the two.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 24, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
on the other hand Arkham City has better mechanics.

And honestly, I fail to see how much more tight AA is than AC, if you just stick with the story. It's about the same thing if you do.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 26, 2011, 12:30:11 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOVq1gpfOu0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 26, 2011, 12:35:55 PM
beat this last night

spoiler (click to show/hide)
that last fight :lol the game ended so abruptly I was confused
[close]

7.5/10, it's no Arkham Asylum

also the most virulently misogynist game I've played all year, and I play games from Japan
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Raban on October 26, 2011, 12:41:26 PM
beat this last night

spoiler (click to show/hide)
that last fight :lol the game ended so abruptly I was confused
[close]

7.5/10, it's no Arkham Asylum

also the most virulently misogynist game I've played all year, and I play games from Japan

-1 sale
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on October 26, 2011, 12:56:42 PM
Its villains are certainly misogynist, and the word "bitch" is a staple.  The game itself, not so much, nor does it in any way promote or mitigate sexist behavior.  Someone's been reading too many moronic Kotaku articles.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 26, 2011, 01:19:31 PM
Sounds like someone is defending women. LOL

Go read Dear Anne articles
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 26, 2011, 10:54:54 PM
Got this today.  I've been playing most of the night, just got to
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Penguin's section in the museum.
[close]

Gotta say, its about as great as I imagined.  I have absolutely no issue with the open world nature of the game.  The game never forces you to go one way or the other, and you don't miss out on anything.  You can tackle something WHEN you want something tackled, save the Riddler challenges, which I always tackled at the end-game of the first release any way.  Once you get the grapple boost...omfg.  Better navigation than Spider-man 2.

And christ the combat is fun.  I would love more games to use a system like this.

Only thing I suppose I can knock is that I'm not as big a fan of the Riddler challenges in this game...they seem to chaotic with how their spread out and how you attain/complete his goals.  I would rather they were just random trophies and riddles like the first game, not switches and weight pads and lights and what-not.  Kinda confusing.  Also, the novelty of it being a Batman game gets kinda tarnished considering there's so many of the villains in this...I was hoping they'd leave a few out to keep some sort of mystery.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 27, 2011, 12:17:06 AM
Why did they included New Game+? Who wants to play this twice? And you have to do all the side-quests again (except Riddler) for Perfect Knight (100%). What the fuck.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2011, 12:20:47 AM
I want to play it twice, because unlike you I'm not a scrub
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 27, 2011, 12:27:53 AM
That doesn't even make sense.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Crushed on October 27, 2011, 12:33:15 AM
Why is this still not out on PC.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2011, 01:10:10 AM
Why is this still not out on PC.

.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Crushed on October 27, 2011, 02:09:41 AM
What does Microsoft have to certify that takes a goddamned month

I'm imagining some Texan tech center filled with dead 360s and there's a dude staring at an executable saying "Yup, it's Batman!!!"

does gfwl involve literal molestation of games as well as figurative, and each and every physical and electronic copy must be personally defiled in a ritual sex act
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 27, 2011, 08:21:27 PM
Last boss of asylum is horse shit
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2011, 09:00:31 PM
Yep. Tell the truth, Viscen. City > Asylum
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 27, 2011, 10:07:54 PM
Don't have that yet
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on October 27, 2011, 10:17:47 PM
uh... himu, everyone said Asylum's final boss is shit. City's isn't much better. Very anti-climatic...

But everything up to the final boss - Asylum > City
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 27, 2011, 10:48:07 PM
Why are there checkpoints for shit easy poison ivy but not three phase final boss

I will spend my stockpiled upgrades before trying again
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 28, 2011, 01:16:54 PM
Yeah, this game is just about as perfect as I imagined.  GOTY so far.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 28, 2011, 10:06:08 PM
it was pretty easy when i stopped being stingy with my remaining upgrade points. beat it on my first try. still wasnt fun or climactic, but not unexpected considering every other boss in the game.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Reb on October 29, 2011, 12:16:41 PM
I'm trying to figure out if my laptop can run this game, but I've never understood PC specs.

My laptop has:

4 GB Ram (I know that's enough, that's the only thing I can figure out)
Intel Core i7 1.60 GHz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670

According to Steam it needs:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 4800+
Memory: 2GB RAM
Video Card: ATI 3850HD 512 MB or NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB

Could anybody help me out?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Raban on October 29, 2011, 12:17:43 PM
You're set.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Reb on October 29, 2011, 12:52:44 PM
Can I crank the settings up?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Raban on October 29, 2011, 01:01:47 PM
The benchmarks for that GPU look better than I thought, how much RAM does it have? Maybe? I mean, it shouldn't look/run any worse than the console versions.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 30, 2011, 12:50:14 AM
I'm trying to figure out if my laptop can run this game, but I've never understood PC specs.

My laptop has:

4 GB Ram (I know that's enough, that's the only thing I can figure out)
Intel Core i7 1.60 GHz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670

According to Steam it needs:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 4800+
Memory: 2GB RAM
Video Card: ATI 3850HD 512 MB or NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB

Could anybody help me out?

it'll run it but on low settings. the 4670m is roughly a 8600.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: bork on October 30, 2011, 03:34:56 PM
Definitely an anti-climatic ending.  I couldn't believe THAT was the last part of the game when the last fight was over.   Then the last Catwoman mission follows and feels out of place because of it, although it does set up for the "epilogue" stuff you get for clearing the game.  I just don't know when or if I'm going to go back and do everything, because there's a ton of other stuff to play.

I agree with Demi on Arkham Asylum feeling tighter.  It definitely had a better story, but Arkham City has better, more varied game play.  I thought the original rated an 8/10 and I'd give this game the same score.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on October 30, 2011, 11:56:17 PM
A friend who is visiting me in two weeks is dragging me a copy of the 360 version over. I am going to be Bat-Happy.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on November 01, 2011, 12:33:32 PM
Is there a point of no return I should watch out for if I intend to collect all the trophies?

I might have passed it already: I'm at Protocol 10 right now and it SUCKS for exploring, so unless that stops at some point, I'll just leave it for New Game+.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on November 01, 2011, 01:02:45 PM
Is there a point of no return I should watch out for if I intend to collect all the trophies?

I might have passed it already: I'm at Protocol 10 right now and it SUCKS for exploring, so unless that stops at some point, I'll just leave it for New Game+.

The only thing missable is the Catch achievement - throw the Remote Batarang at Azrael (before his questline is done)

You can go back and explore the city after the game
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 07, 2011, 06:00:01 PM
Beat the game recently. Fun game although I would be lying if I said it hit me as deeply as the original did. The catwoman stuff was also completely thrown in there. She's a fun character and a game centered more around her would actually be pretty cool but she was pretty shoehorned into this one.

I think if I was a bigger comic book nerd I would have liked it better. There seemed to be a lot of fan service here that I have a feeling is probably more suited for hardcore comic book types.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 08, 2011, 11:20:42 AM
PC version got pushed back by a week. Now it's Nov. 22.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Positive Touch on November 09, 2011, 12:45:41 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/k0ip86.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on November 13, 2011, 07:57:32 PM
My copy arrived via hand-carry on Friday. Played the first hour this morning, before coming to work. Was almost late for work because of it.

This feels more like my kind of game than Batmetroid did. I mean, I know there will be Metroid elements here as well, but it feels more open, less constricted. I know that may end up making it feel like less of a focused experience, but whatevs.

I saw there's a 'cheevo for completing NG+, so I'm playing on Normal, and will tackle NG+ with a beefed up Brucie.

So far: MUCHO MAS EXCELLENTE
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on November 18, 2011, 06:23:31 AM
VR MISSIONS, THESE ARE MY BALLS. PLEASE STAY OFF OF THEM.

The VR missions are annoying as hell. The things previously said here about them, how the game assumes the player knows the controls are true. It assumes the player has JUST RECENTLY completed Arkham Asylum, and still remembers the control scheme perfectly, and starts you off with all the stuff you should have earned during a full AA run. Then it piles more on top. It's honestly a little overwhelming, and then the VR missions come in and require that you ace these ungodly runs -- but the flight/divebomb stuff is NEW to Arkham City! There's no reason they shouldn't have a tutorial for this stuff!

I'm not understanding the dislike of the Catwoman missions. It's largely same-y, and the traversal is limited compared to Batman's grapnel-boost, but whatevs. For a while, you're staring at 'dat ass instead of Bat-ass.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2011, 11:27:15 AM
this game is fucking dope

yessir
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on November 23, 2011, 06:37:32 AM
Played a bit longer today, and really began to feel this game. It's slick, and it's a bunch of fun. They took all the mechanics from Arkham Asylum, and just beefed them up a little bit, and then asked all the good design questions: "what if you only have a limited amount of time?" and "what if you should beat up everyone EXCEPT one guy?" and other means of just tweaking their basic mechanic a little and opening up variations.

In Asylum, I think the guys with knives had to be cape-stunned before you could hit them, right? I am really enjoying the intuitive knife-dodge, and the satisfying payoff of knife-takedowns.

Anyway, I made it all the way through the museum and its inhabitants, back out to chase the "ninjas" and then took a side-trip to the Church, just so I could start opening up the Riddler content, which I'd been finding all over but had no means of "solving." (Game won't let you scan anything until you've spoken with the Riddler at least once (which is kind of lame)).

Good game is good. Saints is going to distract me from this, I'm sure, but it will be a near thing.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 23, 2011, 10:02:46 AM
PC version finally dropped [and I finally downloaded it all], I am excite.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 23, 2011, 06:57:13 PM
PC version finally dropped [and I finally downloaded it all], I am excite.

runs like fuckin' garbage. serious garbage. like dropping to the teens at times. ridiculous.

softened any interest in playing now.

back to skyrim
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 25, 2011, 12:24:53 PM
PC version finally dropped [and I finally downloaded it all], I am excite.

runs like fuckin' garbage. serious garbage. like dropping to the teens at times. ridiculous.

softened any interest in playing now.

back to skyrim

Runs smooth on a Core 2 Duo + 460GTX. Had it drop all of one time, when I was in that little room at the top of the cathedral. That's it though.

Anyway, with 70 hours of Skyrim and beating the finale of Saints Row 3, I'm ready to get down with some Batman. The world was a bit confusing and daunting at first, it doesn't really do a great job of introducing you to how the open world works, in my opinion, but I've got it figured out now and I'm really enjoying it. Arkham City does a really great job of expanding on what Arkham Asylum did in making it feel like you really are Batman. And swinging around a big chunk of city feels pretty cool. Inclusion of sidemissions and even more little things to find and do is a nice inclusion. I'm enjoying it.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on November 26, 2011, 01:00:43 AM
Yeah, that was my reaction, pretty much exactly.

The only place I've been tripped up on mechanics are the new things they added to Arkham City, or the few things they've changed. The game just DOES NOT 'SPLAIN IS'SELF.

...Coming out of Dark Souls, I should be used to this crap by now.  :)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 26, 2011, 11:14:58 PM
AC's pushing pretty hard for the number 1 spot on my list, even giving Skyrim a run for it's money. Never thought I'd say that! I like how it introduces even more gadgets and gizmos, and integrates them very well into the world, the Riddler trophies and riddles that are even more difficult to figure out and acquire, the way the game gives you leeway in handling sidemissions and in how they still feel like they're part of the world, and the way they've broadened the variety of locations even while keeping it within a decayed urban environment. Great game is great.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 01, 2011, 10:47:59 PM
Finally beat AC today.

Dat ending. :omg
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 01, 2011, 11:03:25 PM
Details, details!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 01, 2011, 11:11:31 PM
real talk: dr. doom > joker

Not in movie form though.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2011, 11:44:37 PM
PC version finally dropped [and I finally downloaded it all], I am excite.

runs like fuckin' garbage. serious garbage. like dropping to the teens at times. ridiculous.

softened any interest in playing now.

back to skyrim

Wait a month for inferior version. You people are hilarious.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2011, 11:46:42 PM
Dat ending. :omg


It sucked, I agree.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 02, 2011, 12:13:59 AM
PC version finally dropped [and I finally downloaded it all], I am excite.

runs like fuckin' garbage. serious garbage. like dropping to the teens at times. ridiculous.

softened any interest in playing now.

back to skyrim

Wait a month for inferior version. You people are hilarious.

The only thing wrong with the PC version is that the DX11 stuff is screwed up, as long as that's turned off it runs like a dream.

Dat ending. :omg


It sucked, I agree.

Yeah, well...WHATEVER.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 04, 2011, 12:52:59 PM
this game is batman as fuck
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 04, 2011, 08:20:24 PM
just finished the main campaign. this game fucking owns. i love how they managed to fit all the famous villains in the story and it didn't feel contrived, at least not to me. i had so much fun playing this.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 04, 2011, 09:06:21 PM
and to think you haven't even touched the surface of this game, even after beating the campaign.  this game is so fucking good
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2011, 12:05:42 AM
Batman Arkham City is good enough that I occasionally think about it while playing Saints Row 3. I didn't think any other open world game could tear my attention away from SR3.

There are so many things they've done to keep players immersed in the Batman-isms. Seriously, no fall-to-death? I love that. The game lets you feel like a badass, even when reconnoitering a scene. Sometimes the bad guys spot you, and they panic, they just freak the hell out. If you leave, they suddenly get very "brave at a distance"... :lol
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 05, 2011, 12:14:52 AM
"Ha! I knew you'd chicken out!"

And that's right before I swoop down on them. :lol
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2011, 01:20:46 AM
Are there any tips for the Augmented Reality Training Stuff? I can't seem to get a grip on the dive/glide timing for them. I can do it pretty well in free-roam, but once I have to dive, then glide at a specific height, it's beyond my ability.

In particular, the one in front of the museum, where you have to dive-bomb through two hoops, then flatten out and fly UNDER a low roof, and then a left turn. I always impact against the lower lip of the roof.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on December 05, 2011, 01:39:17 AM
If I remember correctly, the game is very sensitive to how much you need to pull up to level out from a dive.  It doesn't take much.  I think I did that one in just a few tries, but it took me FOREVER to get the one where you need to glide through that narrow tunnel near the Joker's hideout.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2011, 06:34:11 AM
Yeah, okay. I'll try and give it a go away from the AR trials, and get a better feel for it.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on December 17, 2011, 04:20:04 AM
I started this and played for a few hours.  I can already see why the cat woman stuff is lame because the game has a random ass opening where you're playing as catwoman before it tells you how to play, and then you're into the real intro as Batman.  Plus you have like 40 or 80 more collectibles, on top of FOUR HUNDRED RIDDLER COLLECTIBLES.  what the fuck??

The open world seems like it's a lot of that.  cameras, balloons, etc etc.  It's fun to run around as Batman and beat up thugs whenever, but so far not feeling how they've handled it.  The grapple can get annoying because everything is automatic.  The controls haven't been changed to suit an open environment.  You do a lot more running and gliding, but those're mapped to 'A', which sucks because you can't look around while gliding, which is weird because you can look around while gliding; if you make the claw, there is a free camera, but humans with their one thumb on each hand can't take advantage of this.  And the indoor areas I've gone to have been really basic, but when I quit it said I was only 3% into the main story so what do I know.

Combat is unbelievably fun.  Um, I like that there's no tutorial nonsense.  You're free to fuck around from the start.  It blocks some areas, more Zelda style than Metroid style now, but before even going to court house I knocked around some other prisoners and riddler stuff.  Barely into it and it's already kick ass, other than my sort of arbitrary problems.


Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on December 18, 2011, 04:40:43 AM
Playing as Catwoman is weird because all the baddies' taunts are variations of "we're going to rape you"


Game is kick ass.  Collecting is out of control, but whatever.  Everything else is incredible.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Positive Touch on December 18, 2011, 09:30:47 AM
hard mode does not fuck around.  right out of the gate theyre like "heres 15 enemies at once; have fun!"  i just met dent and ive  already seen the game over screen at least 10 times.  gonna take me a minute to get back into the feel of the combat.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on December 18, 2011, 09:41:23 AM
I decided that I wanted to have fun, so I'm playing on Normal. I've still seen the Game Over screen a few times, but not to the point that it's upsetting or anything.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 18, 2011, 11:40:47 AM
Playing as Catwoman is weird because all the baddies' taunts are variations of "we're going to rape you"


Game is kick ass.  Collecting is out of control, but whatever.  Everything else is incredible.

Yeah, everything they say is super creepy without going into specifics. Like "We're gonna HURT you"
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on December 18, 2011, 08:32:42 PM
I overheard some goons talking last night, and they were like "If I'm gonna get beaten up by anyone, I'd choose Catwoman anyday"  :lol

but yeah amazing game. I just finished the main campaign, now I'm just working on the side missions and collecting all 6000 Riddler Trophies

I'm not sure if I like the ending or not.

SPOILERZ

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I've always said I hated open ended endings in games, but the ending for Arkham City was suitably dark. Whats going to happen to all the people in Gotham who got poisoned by Joker? Are they all going to die? Pretty grim stuff. Batman seems kind of screwed in that area. All the cure is gone. Maybe they'll follow it up in the sequel, or hopefully as a future DLC pack.
[close]

Anyhow this game has great value for money, which is what I was looking for for my holiday game. Packed with content, and I've still got NG+ and all the challenge medals to collect.

Definitley deserving of a GOTY award. Dark Souls is still my top game for the year, but this is right up there.

9.5/10
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on December 18, 2011, 08:41:37 PM
hard mode does not fuck around.  right out of the gate theyre like "heres 15 enemies at once; have fun!"  i just met dent and ive  already seen the game over screen at least 10 times.  gonna take me a minute to get back into the feel of the combat.

yeah same thing happened to me. It gets easier once you get into the flow of the gameplay, but that took me a couple of hours as its been years since I played Arkham Asylum. Hard mode gets easier as you progress, due to upgrades and your skill improving. i beat the game on Hard, but NG+ is supposed to be even harder :/ I'll see how I go

Some parts on hard were quite frustrating, like there was one fight as Catwoman when you have to fight 30 of Two Face's goons at once, that sucked
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Positive Touch on December 18, 2011, 09:30:07 PM
but NG+ is supposed to be even harder :/

bonerton

i love the double-countering in this game
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 18, 2011, 09:43:24 PM
triple and quadruple countering is even better
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: demi on December 18, 2011, 10:06:55 PM
Hard is casual and NG+ is even moreso. Felt like standard Batman to me.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on December 21, 2011, 10:35:21 AM
so, Arkham Asylum is a way better game than Arkham City.  Open world is fun when you're flying around, but that's about it.  Respawning enemies are lame, the billion inconsequential collectibles are lame, all the side quests are pretty lame.  A whole lot of faffing for fan service.  It's amazing how nothing about the story or progression is coherent.

The Batman mechanics are mostly improved from Asylum.  The only part of combat that's worse is knife/blade dodging; it completely ruins the flow of the combat.  That and the stealth are still top notch.  It's mostly how the game is structured and the pacing and things like that. 

and Batman is a prick.  He's nearing All-Star Batman, except no one reacts to his dickish attitude. and again, the insults towards Catwoman are so bad.

complaints aside, it was a pretty great game.  Arkham Asylum is justbetter.  well, the another problems I had with AA too were the character designs.  I hate most of them.  The Penguin is heinous.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on December 21, 2011, 11:00:12 AM
I gotta admit that Cobblepot's coke-bottle monocle is pretty stupid. :tophat
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on December 21, 2011, 05:29:59 PM
yes! I hate it! he's an English geezer who fell into a dumpster.  And Bane is more shoulder than man.  And everything has to glow for some reason.  Catwoman is pretty well done if you excuse her zipped down getup.


and the transitions between animations in this game seriously shame other developers.  Uncharted 3, for all the praise given to its graphics, animations like loose fitting skin.  The way your attacks blend together in arkham city look cohesive, like it is an intended combo, only everything is free form.  The real time combat could pass as a cutscene or scripted sequence in other games.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on December 21, 2011, 08:41:09 PM
got all 440/440 of Riddler shit, amazing game. Gonna fuck around with some challenges then get stuck into NG+

I disagree with most of Linkzg's criticisms actually. Game is better than Arkham Asylum in every way.

cant wait to get my 1000 :hyper

I'll probably end up buying Robin and Nightwing too.

Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on December 21, 2011, 09:13:28 PM
in NG+ do all the riddler collectibles carry over? I'm thinking what probably soured my experience was going after the riddler stuff instead of straight through the main story (though I hear the side quests get locked off if you don't do them in time).
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on December 21, 2011, 10:24:42 PM
yeah Riddler stuff carries over, so in NG+ I'm just gonna blow through the story and side quests real quick.

Just got "Perfect Freeflow 2.0", and managed to get the 50x combo cheev in the same combo. That was kinda frustrating
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on December 22, 2011, 03:34:00 AM
bleurgh Xbox keeps hard freezing when I'm in the middle of Riddler campaigns.

Would lick someones ass for new xbox
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on December 22, 2011, 08:21:52 AM
bleurgh Xbox keeps hard freezing when I'm in the middle of Riddler campaigns.

Would lick someones ass for new xbox
(http://i.imgur.com/JmAge.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on December 22, 2011, 05:50:50 PM
these Extreme Predator challenge maps are nut busting to say the least. Some of the medal requirements are so ludicrous
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on December 22, 2011, 07:48:38 PM
okay I cleared my cache and deleted 8GB worth of shit so I could install the game, in the hope that it would stop the freezing.

Everything was going smooth and I was dominating in a Riddler extreme campaign, I was on the final map and set to get all 9 medals then BAM hard freeze. I FUCKING RAGED. I KICKED MY XBOX LITERALLY. I hope the fucking thing is broken now.

Maybe I should play something else, this game is driving me fucking nuts. The challenges aren't so bad on their own but the campaigns are fucking sadistic
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on December 22, 2011, 08:51:10 PM
I don't see how AA is better in any way.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on December 22, 2011, 09:48:33 PM
yeah, that's how opinions work.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Positive Touch on December 22, 2011, 10:50:47 PM
I don't see how AA is better in any way.

well it doesnt have a shitty overworld that has you doing that awful glide move all over the place, for one
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 22, 2011, 10:59:38 PM
I preferred the first game. I thought it was tighter and the concept a bit fresher and I preferred the story in it. That's not to say that Asylum is better than City in any "definable" sense. I liked both but I liked the first a lot more. If somebody said the exact opposite I could understand where they are coming from too.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 22, 2011, 11:02:30 PM
Gliding is awesome, especially after you get the first upgrade to the grappling hook.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on December 22, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
I don't see how AA is better in any way.

well it doesnt have a shitty overworld that has you doing that awful glide move all over the place, for one

Gliding owns

I think AA is a better experience but AC is a much better game. The Riddler trophies aren't just simplistic puzzles but take an ounce of puzzle solving and brain power; the game has far better and varied set pieces and levels; AC features a far more robust combat system that takes more effort to master, not to mention better boss fights and level design.

The core problem with AA is basically that its the same core experience over and over again, splitting the game between stealth and action pieces, AC features far more variety, not only in terms of enemy variety and the way you can take out enemies but also level design. The Mr. Freeze, Rhas Al Ghul, and Penguin Shark portions of AC are much more creative than any part I can think of in AA.

Not to mention the side quests actually have a semblance of creativity and make you feel like you're Batman: find "Bruce Wayne", stop Zasz from killing random people, stop the assassin and more; these scenarios are far more involving than mindlessly solving riddles in AA.

That the first game is more "focused" (it really isn't though) seems to be a consisten complaint and one I can understand. Apples and oranges, but I really think they raised the bar for licensed games with AC, even if AA has a better story. Honestly my only big nitpick with the game is the ending - it's shit.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on December 23, 2011, 12:02:01 AM
okay I cleared my cache and deleted 8GB worth of shit so I could install the game, in the hope that it would stop the freezing.

Everything was going smooth and I was dominating in a Riddler extreme campaign, I was on the final map and set to get all 9 medals then BAM hard freeze. I FUCKING RAGED. I KICKED MY XBOX LITERALLY. I hope the fucking thing is broken now.

Maybe I should play something else, this game is driving me fucking nuts. The challenges aren't so bad on their own but the campaigns are fucking sadistic

"Violence and technology? Not good bedfellows!"
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on December 24, 2011, 04:06:06 AM
yeah my xbox got to the point where it was freezing every 10 minutes of gameplay (in other games too) so I've tried removing the hard drive and running my save data and dlc off a USB stick, and this seems to have fixed the problem... fingers crossed.

Anyhow there's a free Batsuit skin on the marketplace. A "Batman Inc." skin. It ain't bad.

Also I saw that if you buy the "Arkham Bundle" you get the Robin and Nightwing DLC and the batsuit skins pack for 1200MSP. Since Robin and Nightwing are 560MSP each this effectively gives you the skins for 80MSP as opposed to 400. Not bad at all. I'll probably pick it up, I've grown to really enjoy the challenges lol.

What a great game
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on January 08, 2012, 10:00:28 PM
(copy-pasted from the "what are you playing?" thread)
I haven't sussed out pressure plate Riddler Trophies. I guess they just involve gliding or leaping instead of walking or running? I am having a hard time with them.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
you have touch touch all the plates in a sequence without touching the ground.
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tip:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
PLENTY of them require using the line launcher to zip around and drop on the pads. Others require gliding and bouncing off walls. You can trust me, I have 440/440 Riddler items
[close]
Thanks! I'm cleaning up now. Game went back from tedious and frustrating to interesting.

Unfortunately, none of the enemies at GCPD/Bane's Hideout are respawning, so there are no Riddler Informants to fill in the blanks for that area. You guys said all side missions must be cleared in normal game and NG+, right? If so, Riddler Hostages require trophies to unlock, so do I have to get the Riddler Trophies before starting NG+ ...?

Also, is there an easy way to find the remaining "Acts of Violence" political prisoners/victims? I've got 90% and want to wrap them up mucho mas immediamente.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on January 08, 2012, 11:14:00 PM
yeah you wont find any goons along amusement mile, but keep interrogating goons anywhere else, and they will eventually fill in all the trophies on the map once you interrogate enough.

You will have to re-do riddler hostages in NG+ regardless, but depending on how many trophies etc. you have Riddler will just hand the missions out. So if you already have all the trophies, you can do all the hostages straight away in NG+.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on January 09, 2012, 04:45:42 AM
Thanks.

I think the clearer way to phrase my question is, "Now that I'm done, if I start NG+ and then get all the side-quests, does Perfect Knight pop, or do I really have to do all the side quests twice?"
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on January 09, 2012, 04:48:11 AM
you have to complete the story twice, do all the side quests twice (including Riddler hostages) AND get all the challenge medals for Prefect Knight. I'm still working on the medals, some of the extreme campaigns are BRUTAL
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on January 09, 2012, 08:19:32 AM
Ah, OK, I won't worry about it then. I'll just dick around and not worry about the 1000/1000 thing. Thanks!
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 24, 2012, 06:35:45 PM
man, they really shit the bed on deadshot's costume

(http://images.wikia.com/batman/images/a/ac/Deadshot.jpg)


(http://moviemavericks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/deadshotgamepic_opt.png)

 :yuck
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on January 24, 2012, 07:02:25 PM
Wow, I had NO idea that was supposed to be the same guy. I always get DC's Deadshot and Marvel's silver-head and red torso Deathlok confused with each other.

(http://i.imgur.com/D1gAF.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: The Sceneman on January 24, 2012, 09:38:18 PM
yeah Deadshot sucked in AC. I'm not familiar with the character, but I figured he was supposed to be some badass sniper and instead you find some fat fuck with wrist mounted nerf launchers
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Yeti on January 25, 2012, 12:02:47 PM
I just viewed it like the dude was in prison, so he could only smuggle in the bare necessities, and had to improvise his costume out of his prison garb.

And it's not like his original costume is all that great to begin with.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 25, 2012, 02:00:51 PM
this zsasz side mission goes on forever

that guy is the most boring fictional serial killer ever
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on January 25, 2012, 02:20:32 PM
Deadshot looks bad, but Bane is Rocksteady's worst.  Character design is the one sour spot of both games for me.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 25, 2012, 02:30:56 PM
harley quinn looks like some random extra in a 1990s direct to vhs road warrior ripoff
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
harley's design in AC is based off a design used in a comic iirc
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on January 27, 2012, 10:19:59 AM
Harley was better in Arkham Asylum, visually. She looks more generic this time around.

Bane has never been impressive for me, but I wasn't following the Batman comics at the time he was big news.

Until I read the in-game bio, I didn't realize that the Penguin's monocle was supposedly the result of an injury, and cannot be removed. When was that introduced? Is it specific to the game's fiction, or is it also in the comic?
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2012, 11:44:08 AM
saying the design is from a comic isn't really a defense

this was in a batman comic:

(http://i.imgur.com/dccvg.jpg)

all these years and I still don't know what those little bubbles are supposed to be.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 27, 2012, 11:50:35 AM
blisters from the metal chafing

Bane has never been impressive for me, but I wasn't following the Batman comics at the time he was big news.

Until I read the in-game bio, I didn't realize that the Penguin's monocle was supposedly the result of an injury, and cannot be removed. When was that introduced? Is it specific to the game's fiction, or is it also in the comic?

specific to the game, unless they have retconned it into the comic since the game came out

his personality is closer to the way he's portrayed in the current comics, though
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 27, 2012, 12:54:19 PM
this zsasz side mission goes on forever

that guy is the most boring fictional serial killer ever

Once you finish all the phone chase sequences, the actual "fight" is really quick. Just finished it last night.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Robo on January 27, 2012, 01:01:08 PM
It was fittingly anticlimactic after listening to his silly sob story. 

Speaking of, is it possible to drag that story out to its conclusion if you REALLY suck at the mini-game or does it just pace it so you hear the whole thing no matter what?  I stopped paying attention after the third call, so I can't quite remember if he ever wrapped it up or not.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 27, 2012, 01:23:39 PM
It was fittingly anticlimactic after listening to his silly sob story. 

Speaking of, is it possible to drag that story out to its conclusion if you REALLY suck at the mini-game or does it just pace it so you hear the whole thing no matter what?  I stopped paying attention after the third call, so I can't quite remember if he ever wrapped it up or not.

It took me 5 calls and I think it was wrapped up. Wasn't really paying much attention.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on January 27, 2012, 01:29:12 PM
Took me a bunch of calls.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Yeti on January 29, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
I didn't mind the Zsasz missions, but I got lucky. They came nice and spaced out through the course of my playthrough. Deadshot and the one where you save political prisoners, though, I rarely got a trigger to do the next sections and those missions were mostly all clumped at the end of my game after I had beaten everything else.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: Himu on January 29, 2012, 12:56:28 AM
saying the design is from a comic isn't really a defense

this was in a batman comic:

(http://i.imgur.com/dccvg.jpg)

all these years and I still don't know what those little bubbles are supposed to be.

I'm not saying it's a defense, just saying Rocksteady didn't come up with the Harley costume design.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on February 21, 2012, 03:51:13 AM
I've been SLOWLY working through NG+ and feeling the pain of no "combat cue" warnings for Counter and Knife Counter... and Shield Bash warning, come to think of it. Any big fight, I'm having to re-do it a few times, because in my first run, I never learned to fight properly.

But what I really wanted to post is that the NG+ boss fight against Mister Freeze is SO ANNOYING. I think you have to use each Takedown move available, and each only works once. I think Freeze took 5 hits in the Normal play through; pretty sure he took 7 tonight. I was running around and couldn't even remember what moves were available to me.  :-\

It's still a great boss fight. I just didn't even remember that there was a "Line Launcher Takedown" and I forgot that I had Freeze's own weapons disruptor.

This game; it keeps on giving and giving. :hyper
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: benjipwns on February 21, 2012, 11:42:01 AM
Trying to finish the side missions in this, I've only had one for a long time and it's The Riddler.

I liked finding them in the original game, I liked finding a lot of them in this game as well.

But having to find 400 of them? And all the ones in the "city" where you have to do whatever the puzzle is, not really satisfying. AA was mostly about finding them where hidden, this is seeing them and then trying to figure out how the puzzle works or spending a few attempts to dive bomb or glide so you can do it.

Why couldn't they have let you say complete his side missions with half or even two-thirds of the riddles, why do I have to get all the standard Batman ones and then try to clean up challenges or Catwoman ones... And the informant crap. (Although I probably would have gone after them all anyway, I still like the idea of being able to finish his side mission and then just cleaning up the rest on my own.)

His puzzles aren't even worth it, some of the shit he has lying around Arkham City is far more baffling than what the throws at me to save hostages!

Just to throw up some random comments as I haven't and you clearly want to read them:

I love the game, fantastic, got it for $25 in Steam sale since I had gone for Saints Row: The Third first and while this didn't really last as long as that (was very close) it's hard to pick between the two.

I loved the original as it was Batroid and just so well done, and so is this, though it oddly seems rushed in parts. The first game had some of that as it came towards the end, so it's likely just Rocksteady not knowing how to end the game. (To be fair, like 95% of games are like this.) And I'm a hugggggeee Batman fan so all the fan service in this is just amazing. (I've read just...way gobs of everything Batman for years. I think No Man's Land is a god-tier all-format story.) And oddly very little of it seems forced, just like the first game there's tons of stuff placed out of way hiding in areas of the level like in the Museum.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Hush stuff is just total fangasm.
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I may have mentioned before but if not, I would love to death if we got a nice DLC pack of more stuff like the Deadshot, Identity Thief, hell even something better done but like the Zsasz phone calls as that had a lot of the whole Batman feel to me. It's not just about dominating every dude you see and turning back the Joker and Two Face, it's about solving smaller crimes too. I really loved that aspect and I know it's not a popular aspect of Batman but I'd certainly pay for more of it. I would have rather there be half as much Riddler stuff and more complex versions of those crimes to "solve" even if they all ended like Deadshot instead of the Identity Thief ones. It gave a sense to standard operations of Batman instead of just him rushing in to stop the Joker or Hugo Strange's latest plot.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on February 22, 2012, 02:00:23 PM
There was probably some gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair over locking all the Riddler Puzzles/Trophies to the hostages. From a gameplay standpoint it's a little restrictive, but having Batman utterly defeat every problem that The Riddler has posed to him was a part of the writing in Arkham Asylum as well.

There was a very good piece on incorporating the collectibles with the storyline:
http://www.game-ism.com/2010/08/16/a-narrative-trumping-mechanic/

But, yeah, some of The Riddler items are a real PITA. I wish I had known that Bat-Explosive also works the same as a Batarang where puzzles are concerned. It's one more thing they just don't show the player, except in this case it isn't a carryover from Arkham Asylum's equipment/powers/movelist.

Right now I'm stuck at the base of Wonder Tower, having to take on 3 snipers and 2 jammers in a room with mines in it. Normal was easy in this room; NG+ not so much.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 22, 2012, 02:27:58 PM
In that case it's almost always better to wait for those jammer guys under a gargoyle or use your electrical thing to sputz them out
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on February 22, 2012, 02:44:27 PM
Thanks, I'd only noticed last night that the REC Gun disrupts the jammer temporarily. Also noticed that my Glide Kicks alert everyone in the area to my location, which is a bad, bad idea with multiple snipers in the room.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on February 23, 2012, 07:49:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/AJMKW.png)

W00t. That was good fun. I actually finished the last boss with a single sliver of health left. The ending is pretty great. The alternate ending for the Catwoman DLC is also pretty good; reminds me of the radio broadcasts from the end of one of those zombie movies.

After clearing the base of Wonder Tower, with the snipers and mines and multiple jammers, I was petrified about the guys at the top of the tower. On my first run, the top of the tower took several tries, because there wasn't much useful cover, and Hugo Strange kept pointing out my location to his guards whenever I was visible. Since the base of the tower took me several tries, I was stunned to finish the top of it without taking a single hit. :hyper

I'm happy to have played NG+. It really made me appreciate the combat system more, as the Normal game I could pretty much just mash through.

Not sure how much of the remaining stuff I'm going to do. I'm not bored by the game yet. In fact, I'm having a hard time picturing how Rocksteady can even improve it for the inevitable sequel.
Title: Re: Batman Arkham City
Post by: chronovore on March 25, 2012, 09:28:45 AM
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Batman-Inc-Batsuit-Skin/124ab6c1-1bb9-4a13-938e-1c1c0f49a357?cid=SLink

Batman Inc. free skin

I am about done with this game, as I don't want to follow walkthroughs to get perfect scores on campaign and predator missions. Probably still GOTY for me, even in the face of Saints Row the Third.