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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 02:51:53 PM

Title: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 02:51:53 PM: Amazon just went apeshit.

(http://i.imgur.com/be3sV.jpg)

7" - $199
8.9" - $299

Regular Kindle Fire - $159

wooahhh another model

(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8069/amazon-event-2012-_1566.jpg)

lol 250 MB/mo
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 02:53:48 PM: Did they iron out the hardware? Like, does it have actual volume buttons now?
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: huckleberry on September 06, 2012, 02:54:12 PM: (http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8069/amazon-event-2012-_1566.jpg)
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 06, 2012, 02:55:42 PM: Ive got an ipad3 and its great. Only thing id want other than that is a tablet I can do work on in an enterprise environment- and thats the high end Surface.

Sorry Amazon.

*I still love prime membership omg
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 02:58:30 PM: I figure we can just do all tablet shit in here considering Apple will be unveiling their iPad mini soon
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: huckleberry on September 06, 2012, 02:58:59 PM: Fire :yuck

Prime :hump
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 03:02:28 PM: Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 06, 2012, 02:53:48 PM
Did they iron out the hardware? Like, does it have actual volume buttons now?

dunno, haven't seen any close-up pics, really. haven't seen it mentioned, though.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 06, 2012, 03:05:56 PM: WHEN CAN I BUY THE NEW KINDLE E-READER WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 03:08:49 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 06, 2012, 03:05:56 PM
WHEN CAN I BUY THE NEW KINDLE E-READER WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN

SORRY NOT A TABLET GTFO

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oct 1st
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Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 03:09:18 PM: Yeah i want the new kindle e-reader and i want the google nexus as my tablet
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 06, 2012, 03:11:54 PM: $69 Kindle

- New Fonts
- Crisper Text
- 15% faster page turns

$119 Wifi Kindle Paperwhite, $179 3G

- Frontlit
- 22% higher contrast
- Higher res (212ppi)
- capacitive touch

$159 Kindle Fire

- 1GB ram
- faster processor (44% more powerful than last year's model)
- bigger battery

$199 7" Kindle Fire HD (unclear on some details like resolution)

-dual-anntena 5GHz Wi-Fi
-dual stereo speakers
- OMAP 4470 processor from Texas Instruments
- HDMI out
- Bluetooth
-HD webcam
-16GB
- laminated, polarized display (25% less glare)

$299 8.9" Kindle Fire HD

- 1920x1200, 254ppi display
-dual-anntena 5GHz Wi-Fi
-dual stereo speakers
- OMAP 4470 processor from Texas Instruments
- HDMI out
- Bluetooth
-HD webcam
-16GB
- laminated, polarized display (25% less glare)
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 03:14:03 PM: thank you for being helpful, feelbad.

i never make threads because i'm too lazy to do the work, but i just wanted to make this one anyway
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 06, 2012, 03:14:09 PM: they're gonna sell a shitload of those $159 kindle fires
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 06, 2012, 03:31:12 PM: should have waited from getting me nexus 7 :(
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 03:33:50 PM: Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on September 06, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
should have waited from getting me nexus 7 :(

i still would lean toward the nexus 7, which is probably why amazon is being so aggressive with the pricing
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 06, 2012, 03:36:08 PM: All I wanted was a cheap pdf reader so the 8.9" Kindle Fire would have been perfect.

Also this is why I never by technology things. regret always.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 03:42:22 PM: Is 8.9 big enough for comics?
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 06, 2012, 04:03:48 PM: http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Paperwhite-Resolution-Display-Built-/dp/B007OZNZG0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1346961488&sr=8-3&keywords=paperwhite

BOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 04:06:41 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 06, 2012, 04:03:48 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Paperwhite-Resolution-Display-Built-/dp/B007OZNZG0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1346961488&sr=8-3&keywords=paperwhite

BOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

:drool
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Beezy on September 06, 2012, 04:06:45 PM: I still have the wifi Kindle Keyboard, but I'm fine with it.

I can't choose between the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire HD though. And then there's the sexy Surface tablet right around the corner...
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2012, 04:08:06 PM: Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on September 06, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
should have waited from getting me nexus 7 :(

::)

N7 stomps this things face into the curb so hard it ain't even funny.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Beezy on September 06, 2012, 04:12:35 PM: Do you like anything that isn't Google?
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 06, 2012, 04:17:11 PM: lol someone at amazon doing extreme trolling with the "see the difference photo"
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Bildi on September 06, 2012, 04:52:16 PM: Wow, that's cheap.

:bow China
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2012, 05:08:37 PM: Quote from: Beezy on September 06, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
Do you like anything that isn't Google?

If it competes with Google somehow, probably not. But that's cause they make the best stuff. :pimp
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 06, 2012, 05:11:30 PM: Quote from: Beezy on September 06, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
Do you like anything that isn't Google?

...Nintendo?
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 05:20:06 PM: all of them are cheap because ADS

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/6/3298418/new-kindle-fire-hd-special-offers
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 05:21:33 PM: my regular kindle already shows ads. how is that new?
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 05:22:11 PM: Does this feature an updated Android OS or is this the same stank shit from the old Fire?
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Beezy on September 06, 2012, 05:23:08 PM: Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 06, 2012, 05:21:33 PM
my regular kindle already shows ads. how is that new?
The previous Kindle Fire didn't have ads.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 06, 2012, 05:24:36 PM: my kindle doesnt have ads anymore because i stopped connecting it to the internet. now it just nicely requests I connect it to the internet so i can get new ads.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Mupepe on September 06, 2012, 05:24:41 PM: The Kindle Fire is a pretty big POS. It doesn't do anything well. I won't be falling for that again! LOL
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 06, 2012, 05:26:02 PM: the idea of it was getting tablets into the average consumers hands, not for it to be exceptionally good at anything. sucks but they did succeed.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 05:26:17 PM: Agreed, Mups. That's why I'm asking all these questions. Kindle Fire sucks. What does HD have anything to fix its previous issues?
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 05:28:54 PM: Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 06, 2012, 05:21:33 PM
my regular kindle already shows ads. how is that new?

as beezy already said, the original kindle fire didn't have ads. there was also the choice to buy an ad-less kindle e-reader. there's no choice now.

i figure we won't know if the OS experience is any better until reviews start coming out
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 06, 2012, 05:29:05 PM: Quote from: Andrex on September 06, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on September 06, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
should have waited from getting me nexus 7 :(

::)

N7 stomps this things face into the curb so hard it ain't even funny.

hahaha, what complete bullshit, and i own a nexus 7 myself

-hdmi out
-dual stereo speakers
- 16GB for $199, 32 for $249
- dual band wifi

and if you want to spend $50 more, you get a 8.9" 1920x1200 screen

you let me know when your nexus 7 transforms into any of that, i'll be sure to check mine
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 06, 2012, 05:35:16 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwXuyMbzAQ

i am jerking off right nowwww
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 05:36:20 PM: OH MY GOD.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 06, 2012, 05:37:31 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 06, 2012, 05:28:54 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 06, 2012, 05:21:33 PM
my regular kindle already shows ads. how is that new?

as beezy already said, the original kindle fire didn't have ads. there was also the choice to buy an ad-less kindle e-reader. there's no choice now.

i figure we won't know if the OS experience is any better until reviews start coming out

it's hooked off ICS this time, that's all I know
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2012, 05:38:21 PM: Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 06, 2012, 05:22:11 PM
Does this feature an updated Android OS or is this the same stank shit from the old Fire?

It's not anything past 3.0, I can probably assure you.

If it's upgraded to 2.3 from the OG Fire's 2.2, I'd be surprised.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Beezy on September 06, 2012, 05:40:03 PM: Quote from: Andrex on September 06, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
It's not anything past 3.0, I can probably assure you.

If it's upgraded to 2.3 from the OG Fire's 2.2, I'd be surprised.
politician speak :lol
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2012, 05:41:11 PM: Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on September 06, 2012, 05:29:05 PM
Quote from: Andrex on September 06, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on September 06, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
should have waited from getting me nexus 7 :(

::)

N7 stomps this things face into the curb so hard it ain't even funny.

hahaha, what complete bullshit, and i own a nexus 7 myself

-hdmi out
-dual stereo speakers
- 16GB for $199, 32 for $249
- dual band wifi

and if you want to spend $50 more, you get a 8.9" 1920x1200 screen

you let me know when your nexus 7 transforms into any of that, i'll be sure to check mine

Jelly Bean and Google Now, yo.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Mupepe on September 06, 2012, 05:56:30 PM: Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 06, 2012, 05:26:17 PM
Agreed, Mups. That's why I'm asking all these questions. Kindle Fire sucks. What does HD have anything to fix its previous issues?
For real real. As long as the OS is still a slow and buggy piece of shit then I've no need for it. I hate having to restart my Kindle Fire because after an hour or so the web browser stops working randomly. Fuck you. Get a better screen for reading or get a real OS made for the damn thing.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Lan on September 06, 2012, 06:06:10 PM: I am kind of feeling like I want one.

I would buy the $119 Wifi Kindle Paperwhite or the Kindle Fire. I like the idea of renting books for free since I already have amazon prime.

I am just worried that I'm overkilling on devices. I already have an iPad 32G Data plan. siiigh
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 06, 2012, 06:34:43 PM: (http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/kindle/dp/2012/KC/feature-design._V389693937_.jpg)

oh my godness
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 06, 2012, 06:48:32 PM: Paperwhite for me RIGHT FUCKING NOW, I think.

Tempted by the 7' Fire ('cause my daughter would love a smaller iPad - she's pretty much taken over my iPad 1) but no need to move on that before I see what Apple has in that range.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 06, 2012, 06:52:21 PM: bit annoyed at the lack of buttons on the Paperwhite though - i do enough swiping as it is.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2012, 07:00:52 PM: Chrome on my Nexus 7 is soooo goood.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 06, 2012, 07:02:36 PM: Quote from: Cormacaroni on September 06, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
bit annoyed at the lack of buttons on the Paperwhite though - i do enough swiping as it is.

Agreed. I WISH IT HAD BUTTONS. :(

Just for pages, mang. Your Paperwhite line is obviously for the hardcore readers, so give 'em what they want! You Fire can be the Magical Touch Free device.

I ordered my Paperwhite WITHOUT SPECIAL OFFERS because I am worth $20, dammit!
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 07:10:45 PM: To be honest, I have the kindle touch, and it's fine. You forget the need for buttons within five minutes. The only issue is when you have it in your pocket, accidentally unlock it and pages start turning or starts to zoom in.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 06, 2012, 07:22:33 PM: Couple the lack of button(s) with the faster CPU and hence faster page turns, and I bet you'll regularly be turning 2-3 pages unintentionally. I do this with comics on the iPad about a million times a day
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2012, 07:24:00 PM: good point
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 06, 2012, 08:00:28 PM: Discrete page turn on swipe is a poor use of sliding gestures anyway - they only really feel good when there's 1:1 direct manipulation.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Beezy on September 06, 2012, 08:13:49 PM: You don't need to swipe to turn the page on the Kindle Touch though. Just tap the edge of the screen.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 06, 2012, 08:46:22 PM: Same with comixology etc on iPad but I still end up flipping too many pages all the time. It's by NO MEANS a deal-breaker, to be clear...I've ordered it already. I'd just prefer physical buttons
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 06, 2012, 09:19:44 PM: well, sheeit - order got rejected. Looks like the initial shipment at least is US-only :japancry
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 06, 2012, 09:31:28 PM: I'm still going to wait to see how the Microsoft Surface Pro turns out. Knowing Microsoft, it could be either amazing or total shite. I know Microsoft really wants Windows 8 to take off as a competent tablet OS so I'm optimistic.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 06, 2012, 10:29:01 PM: e-ink reader != tablet

I mean, wait on the Surface before you buy the Kindle Fire

but the e-ink readers are a totally different ballgame
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 06, 2012, 10:39:20 PM: To me 7" tablets and something like Surface Pro are different ballgames anyway ... the latter is more like a small laptop which can be used like a tablet. I'd like one of both really, but not sure about N7 vs. Kindle Fire vs. rumored iPad mini
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 06, 2012, 10:56:58 PM: 8.9" and $299 is a great "sweet spot" size and price for a pure consumption device. As I said earlier, those $159 Fires are gonna fly off the shelves (even though an extra $40 will get you a much better tablet). That's "I'm not gonna cry/rage if my kid breaks it" toy-territory.

Very interested in the Windows tablet, looks like something I could get some real work done on - the iPad and N7 are great, but I'm a little tired of all the bullshit workaround stuff I have to do just to get some word processing/formatting done . The actual Office suite will be a breath of fresh air there, and I am really intrigued by that cover/keyboard.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 07, 2012, 12:49:55 AM: The real deal-breaker for non-US folks is that even though I buy a ton of books and shit from amazon.com, all the movies and tv and book lending goodness is locked out unless I have a US credit card. I'd happily pay for Prime in the US to get all that stuff, and it would likely be enough to get me to start over buying stuff in the Android realm even after years of investing in iOS apps and content. But no point bitching - these things are loss-leaders designed to get you buying other stuff. If you can't buy the other stuff, they don't want you buying the h/w
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Verdigris Murder on September 07, 2012, 09:24:35 AM: I hope it can play Steam games just like the Surface.
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 07, 2012, 06:38:55 PM: Quote from: Andrex on September 06, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 06, 2012, 05:22:11 PM
Does this feature an updated Android OS or is this the same stank shit from the old Fire?

It's not anything past 3.0, I can probably assure you.

If it's upgraded to 2.3 from the OG Fire's 2.2, I'd be surprised.

btw i feel like this didn't get laughed at enough since, as feelbad said, it's 4.0
Title: Re: TABLET WARS
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2012, 09:30:00 PM: It's a shame they butchered it so bad with their crapware and skin that you can't even tell.