The movie lacks majesty. Grand in parts, the movie is too often grandiose or grandiloquent; and the running time is indefensible.
Tolkien's brisk story of intrepid little hobbit Bilbo Baggins is drawn out and diluted by dispensable trimmings better left for DVD extras.
There are elements in this new film that are as spectacular as much of the Rings trilogy was, but there is much that is flat-footed and tedious as well, especially in the early going.
Fulfilling just a fraction of J.R.R. Tolkien's "There and Back Again" subtitle, The Hobbit alternately rewards and abuses auds' appetite for all things Middle-earth.
An Unexpected Journey may as well be The Phantom Menace and God help us all if the next two movies aren't better than this one.
Wait, it's a trilogy now?
You could literally tell the entire Hobbit story in 3 hours. How the fuck do you split that novel into two 3 hour films, then add a "bridge" film between it and LOTR?
sigh
It's gross, I won't watch it.That's what I'll be doing this weekend. :rock
But, strangely, my wife (she of the Twillight-wing of nerddom) is excited to watch it and wants to re-watch all 9 hours of the LOTR in prep.
To be fair, when I heard The Hobbit was being adapted my first thought was that the amount of dwarves would be too much for audiences. Most of them don't have much of an impact on the novel iirc, and I figured the movie would basically split them into roles (the badass, the comic relief, etc).I don't really care what's good for general audiences. I want my Tolkien fantasy fancy tickled and I trust Peter Jackson to do it. *shrug*
I honestly don't see Peter Jackson offending my Tolkien senses so much that I don't like the films.
Heck yes. Although I'll be there Day 2 because I'm a masochist like that.I honestly don't see Peter Jackson offending my Tolkien senses so much that I don't like the films.
Same here. I'm not gonna be there day 1, because fighting a horde of people to see a three hour movie doesn't sound like much fun. But I'll definitely go watch it sometime in the latter half of this month.
I don't necessarily mind a big audience, but this is going to be one of those movies where you need to get to the theater more than an hour in advance. Unless you LIKE sitting all the way at the front and in one of the corners.I like reserved seating. ;)
I like reserved seating. ;)
I don't necessarily mind a big audience, but this is going to be one of those movies where you need to get to the theater more than an hour in advance. Unless you LIKE sitting all the way at the front and in one of the corners.I like reserved seating. ;)
I was thinking about heading to San Antonio for IMAX 3D HFR but considering no real IMAX can do it I didn't think it would be worth it. I'm just doing 3D HFR. No Dolby Atmos here in Houston :(I like reserved seating. ;)
God I wish our theaters had reserved seating.
So how is everyone gonna see the Hobbit? IMAX 3d HFR? IMAX 3d? HFR? Regular? Dolby Atmos?
Move to Houston :DI don't necessarily mind a big audience, but this is going to be one of those movies where you need to get to the theater more than an hour in advance. Unless you LIKE sitting all the way at the front and in one of the corners.I like reserved seating. ;)
WELL WHOOPITY-DOO
DownloadedI like reserved seating. ;)
God I wish our theaters had reserved seating.
So how is everyone gonna see the Hobbit? IMAX 3d HFR? IMAX 3d? HFR? Regular? Dolby Atmos?
Wait, it's a trilogy now?
Two based on the book, one that's a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.
The first movie is just a few minutes shy of 3 hours.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_an_unexpected_journey//forum/?threadid=328137347
:rofl
scifi mark
My predicition will be that it will end up 70-80 with 80 being optimistic. The acting looks solid which should keep it up there. I dont see it dropping to 50-60
Dec 5 - 06:35 AM
Geordie Newlands
Geordie Newlands
i bet my left nut this shitty movie goes down like a 1 dollar hooker and the final score will be 50 percent so go cry little bitch
Dec 5 - 03:30 PM
David Tanny
David Tanny
You have experience with $1 hookers, huh?
Dec 5 - 03:30 PM
Zachary Wisz
Zachary Wisz
You know what man, get off my thread because you've trolled on it enough already. Find a different movie to bash like the Star Wars Prequels.
Dec 5 - 05:14 PM
Geordie Newlands
Geordie Newlands
i like the star wars prequels dumbass i bet they will shit all over this lord of the rings prequels. peter jackson is a poor mans george lucas. king kong sucked aswell only good movie he made was the frighteners.
Dec 5 - 08:05 PM
Zachary Wisz
Zachary Wisz
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/
Dec 5 - 09:15 PM
Geordie Newlands
Geordie Newlands
redlettermedia can fuck itself all 6 star wars movies are awesome in there own way they are not the prequels are not as shit as indiana jones 4.
Wait, it's a trilogy now?
Two based on the book, one that's a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.
The first movie is just a few minutes shy of 3 hours.
What? So it's going to have an original story? WTF WHY?
According to Jackson, the third film would make extensive use of the appendices that Tolkien wrote to expand the story of Middle-Earth (published in the back of The Return of the King).
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.
I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid. :( So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?
It's gross, I won't watch it.That's what I'll be doing this weekend. :rock
But, strangely, my wife (she of the Twillight-wing of nerddom) is excited to watch it and wants to re-watch all 9 hours of the LOTR in prep.
I honestly don't see Peter Jackson offending my Tolkien senses so much that I don't like the films.
Same here. I'm not gonna be there day 1, because fighting a horde of people to see a three hour movie doesn't sound like much fun. But I'll definitely go watch it sometime in the latter half of this month.
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.
I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid. :( So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?
It had a menacing villain narrating the trailer and lots of things getting destroyed and people running fear.
Yeah, every film needs those two for maximum genericness now. YOU'LL SEE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE DUMB BBBBBBRRRRRRAAAWWWWWWWWMMMMMMMMMMMMWith this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.
I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid. :( So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?
It had a menacing villain narrating the trailer and lots of things getting destroyed and people running fear.
And let's not forget the Inception beats.
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Disappointing but exactly what everyone feared, really. Mostly disappointing 'cause i already paid for my tickets :'(
Still pretty much have to see it though - could never explain it to my 9 yr old self, who thought The Hobbit was the greatest thing ever.
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.
I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid. :( So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?
It had a menacing villain narrating the trailer and lots of things getting destroyed and people running fear.
And let's not forget the Inception beats.
BBBBBBRRRRRRAAAWWWWWWWWMMMMMMMMMMMM
you should try living in Wellington, the man is fucking deified here. The Prime Minister spoke at the Premier etc. What a fucking joke
A big and attentive audience can transform a movie.
Heck yes. Although I'll be there Day 2 because I'm a masochist like that.spoiler (click to show/hide)I genuinely love seeing movies with big audiences[close]
Fuck. If people get angry at the Hobbit movies there won't be any will in Hollywood to make my dream Book of Three / Prydain Chronicles movies :'(
the only hobbit film is the 70's one.
Chip the glasses and crack the plates! Blunt the knives and bend the forks! That's what Bilbo Baggins hates!
HAIRY HOBBIT FEET WHEELS OF CHEESE DWARF SONGZ THE END
Loved the movie, I know I'm in the minority but I found with way better than any of the LOTR films, but I deffinetly agree with a lot of it's criticism.:lol I know what you mean. My wife's cousins watch all sorts of shitty movies. Anything that they watch is "awesome!" and I "have to see it!". I really wish I could be entertained like that. No snark.
My theater loved it! there was one chick in the row in front of me that was really into the movie, gasping and putting her hands on her head during some of the action scenes and clapping when the dwarf got out of harms way, I kind of envy how much she enjoyed it :lol
Yeah I see people talking about the pacing and then drooling over the LOTR Extended Editions. I love the EE's but you're on fucking crack if you don't think they moved at glacier speed.the only hobbit film is the 70's one.
Chip the glasses and crack the plates! Blunt the knives and bend the forks! That's what Bilbo Baggins hates!
That song is in this version :P
If you liked the LotR trilogy, you'll like this. It has some lighter hearted moments but not as much as the book, and there's some added stuff (Radagast, etc) that wasn't in the book. Seems like people are shitting on it because they want something to shit on or don't like the genre.
Full disclosure: I'm a fantasy nerd, so this tickles my nerd prostate in all the right places. YMMV.
Wait, it's a trilogy now?
Two based on the book, one that's a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.
The first movie is just a few minutes shy of 3 hours.
I really liked it :o
Saw it in HFR 3D, and at first the frame rate was really strange, but once the movie gets rolling with more sweeping set pieces and not confined to just a hobbit hole, you forget about it. I thought it was really beneficial to the act scenes. Very cool shit. Also probably the best 3D movie I've seen.
It was as per usual too long, and the Radagast shit is just stupid. Too childish. Other than that though, everything was great.
I honestly just didn't see the point of him. It's been a while since I read The Hobbit but I don't remember him having that much of a role. It was cheesy and his animal friends made the film feel more like a Disney movie.
Yeah the bitching in the press about the 48fps actually sort of makes me wanna see it. They're all like "it makes it look like a really expensive version of an old BBC show" and I'm all like "and the downside is ... ?"
Going to see the high frames 3d version in a couple of hours. I think I'm more interested to see the tech than the movie honestly.
And we watched an ep of Adventure Time last night that had both of us in tears :lol You never know what you'll get with that show
Laughing tears or the sadsies? Which episode?
I'm not excited for this movie at all, not interested in anyway either.
I really liked The Hobbit. I felt it did a far better job of invoking the feel of fantasy adventure story than the LOTR movies did. Specifically with giving character to the "enemies" that are faced:spoiler (click to show/hide)The trolls, then goblins.[close]
I think the films problem is that barely anything happens and it's literally ALL setup for the events to come. Nothing of real substance happens. And in a weird sense, it's basically a remake of Fellowship. It follows a lot of the same beats and the events mirror Fellowship fairly closely.
That said. I got a lot of enjoyment watching it. The riddles scene was quite good as were the action set pieces.
So did anyone see the HFR version? I don't really think my theatre has that capability. Or maybe i'm just completely ignorant to the concept. For most of the film it looked like any other film (except 3d) but there was a few specific moments (Rivendell especially) where I could swear it was in a higher frame rate. it was jarring because it was just a few moments.
The Hobbit was great btw, loved it. Long but light on its feet, and I had the impression that Jackson was feeling liberated from a heavy narrative - real sense of play throughout, like I had with Tintin (which I also loved). Totally down for more. And the 48fps 3D IMAX was the most amazing image quality i've ever seen, only marred by the horrible Japanese subtitles at fixed depth throughout.
I'm in the theater right now waiting for himu to show up
I'm in the theater right now waiting for himu to show up
I'm in the theater right now waiting for himu to show up
Use protection, god knows what himu has been doing at the park.
one of my brothers just got out of a later showing, said he really didn't like it. He's read the book but said it felt beyond "childish" into Jar Jar territory, and featured cringe worthy lines. He had no problem with the fps outside of during effects scenes, which he said looked horrible.
bah, I doubt I'll see it anytime soon
I enjoyed how the tone of the movie was more "childish". It worked better for the story they were telling.yeah. I loved that part.
The scene near the end that's in the trailers, where Bilbo tells the dwarves he will help get their home back, was really well done.
yes bombur is the fat dwarf
yeah. That bugged me but it was a personal "that's not the book" gripeI loved it. 48 fps looked great. It made it look stunning to me. I have never seen such clean pan shots.Thank you. I totally agree 100%.
as far as the actual movie, I still loved it. But it really felt like PJ's version of a LOTR prequel based on a mishmash of fanfic and other Tolkien stories. I really don't get how you could say there are jar jar moments or that it is childish if you're familiar with the book. The book IS childish. If anything I felt the constant forced tension and inconsistent tones were more problematic. Again though, I loved it. It was on my mind the whole night and even when I woke up. Needless to say, I was happy as hell to go back to middle earth.
The only thing I don't like is how much they changed the character of Thorin from the books. I understand why though
bombur is in the movie, but not all of the dwarves in this movie are fat. Many are in shape and skinny. But yeah, bombur's character in the film is essentially HAHA HE'S FAT
also the misty mountain's cold as the main theme to the score was wonderful
Movie sets new December box office record, BoxOfficeMojo calls it a failure:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3587&p=.htm
New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny.
Christopher Tolkien is an ass.
I haven't read the hobbit in a long time, what was so different about thorin in the movie?
New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny.
lol, the fuck?
Just shy of 3 billion worldwide gross revenue for 3 movies, and trying to claim a loss? Suuuuure, New Line, suuuure....
New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny.
lol, the fuck?
Just shy of 3 billion worldwide gross revenue for 3 movies, and trying to claim a loss? Suuuuure, New Line, suuuure....
Studios almost always claim a loss on big budget movies. They hide all their other smaller losses from other projects under it. i.e. that set in South Africa they built for use in a tiny art film will show up in the Mission IMpossible budget even though no part of it was filmed in South Africa. Why they are never called on this other than by talent agency reps, I don't know. But it leads to the Hollywood maxim for contracts - 'Points of the gross, not the net'. i.e. if your contract states you will get a share of the NET profits, you won't ever see a penny, no matter how much it makes at the box office. Tolkien signed the rights away decades ago of course.
yes, absolutely brazen and transparent.
Tolkien's estate lawyers are contesting it no doubt but i'm sure it's a huge strain on the family. Amazing how often these massive successes turn into poisoned chalices.
I guess everyone should have seen it coming, but the interview with Christopher Tolkien where he talks for the first time about the movies is depressing. New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny. Same will happen with The Hobbit. Sickening.
also the misty mountain's cold as the main theme to the score was wonderful
So good
I assume everyone liked the HFR 3D? First time I felt comfortable watching 3D at the movies, it would be amazing if all action blockbusters start using this
That's cool, and I realize New Line was desperately trying to stave off bankruptcy back then (probably still is? Don't follow studio gossip). It's still shitty treatment and you'd hope that settlement would have included a re-negotiation of the rights for the Hobbit so they don't have to go through it again.
I mostly didn't like it but I didn't find it to be a benefit to the 3d.
I saw this this morning and really liked it, surprisingly, considering the LOTR trilogy is terrible.
BTW saw it a second time today in HFR3D. When I saw the screening Monday night there was no trailer, and this time we got Superman in 3D which looked fucking awesome in 3D.
Cormacaroni, if you watch Superman Returns again, you'll welcome anything fresh they are willing to try with the character.BTW saw it a second time today in HFR3D. When I saw the screening Monday night there was no trailer, and this time we got Superman in 3D which looked fucking awesome in 3D.
bearded, eyes shut, descending naked in Jesus Christ pose...yup that's the Mort Weisinger Superman we know and love :lol
I will go see it, and you're right about it looking great image-quality wise, but something about that pomposity really turns me off.
Superman-as-Christ is the least fresh thing ever dude - a starving yogi could live for months on that stack of comics
I mostly didn't like it but I didn't find it to be a benefit to the 3d.
Bad wording, you didn't like it but you didn't find it a benefit? Did you mean you didn't like it but did find it a benefit to the 3D?I saw this this morning and really liked it, surprisingly, considering the LOTR trilogy is terrible.
I was so bored in ROTK I nearly fell asleep. Fellowship was pretty cool, Twin Towers.. Eh, was ok. Hobbit=FOTR>TT>ROTK
The new Star Trek movie in IMAX 3D previews absolutely shat on Superman reboot. I would go so far as to say it might be the best looking 3D movie ive ever seen.
Also it actually looked good; i couldnt help but feel a little meh about superman. I loved him when I was a kid, but just like Goku he lost appeal.
The new Star Trek movie in IMAX 3D previews absolutely shat on Superman reboot. I would go so far as to say it might be the best looking 3D movie ive ever seen.
Also it actually looked good; i couldnt help but feel a little meh about superman. I loved him when I was a kid, but just like Goku he lost appeal.
I mostly didn't like it but I didn't find it to be a benefit to the 3d.
Bad wording, you didn't like it but you didn't find it a benefit? Did you mean you didn't like it but did find it a benefit to the 3D?
you absolutely need to see this for the hfr 3d alone. it looks fucking incredible.
I saw it in Imax 3d
Movie was forgettable. Forgot I've already even seen it.
I think the best thing I can say about this film is that I really want to go see it again. It's rare that I feel compelled to see a film twice in theaters.
.Most of the scenes in the very beginning, with old Bilbo and Frodo, could have gone, as well, as could the scene with Gandalf talking to the Council, since nothing all that important came out of it other than to reinforce what was already very obvious about all four characters.
.Most of the scenes in the very beginning, with old Bilbo and Frodo, could have gone, as well, as could the scene with Gandalf talking to the Council, since nothing all that important came out of it other than to reinforce what was already very obvious about all four characters.
That Saruman is Switzerland (but secretly Hitler), Elrond is a racist, Gandalf is a meddler and Galadriel is hot?
I agree. Man, is Galadriel hot. If only they could figure out how to get my future ex-girlfriend Miranda Otto back in these movies.
You sound more pissed that the nerds interject their own interpretations rather than how the movies reflect the books description of Gandalf. Nerds are intolerable on any subject.
the movies do a pretty good job of not mixing other tolkien lore too much.
The nerds ruin everything. It's kind of like the Marvel nerds who got pissed that Thor didn't completely curbstomp Iron Man when they fought in The Avengers. But what's interesting about Tolkien's lore is that it changes so much between The Hobbit and The Silmarillion. Gandalf goes from being a wizard to being an angelic being on the same level as Sauron, but who is obligated not to interfere too much in mortal affairs. I'm glad they've kept him more on the grounded side in the films.
You sound more pissed that the nerds interject their own interpretations rather than how the movies reflect the books description of Gandalf. Nerds are intolerable on any subject.
the movies do a pretty good job of not mixing other tolkien lore too much.
They would be sued by the Tolkien estate if they mixed in one word of other tolkein lore, lol
I loved The Hobbit. Yeah, it was boring, but I'm invoking fryinghigh's defense of TNG in that it was the good kind of boring. A kind of boring I could settle in and watch all day. Stretch it out to four movies, I don't care; bring it on.
Movie was missing the wonderful gay subtext of the original trilogy
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I haven't seen the movie yet, but I won't stand idle while someone shittalks Positive Touch. Someone hold my purse as I take off my earrings.
aren't you the person who is owned because you associate with such people?
Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.
Jesus. Is that your normal 3D price or did they charge extra for HFR?Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.
Paid $16 to watch it in HFR :-\
Jesus. Is that your normal 3D price or did they charge extra for HFR?Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.
Paid $16 to watch it in HFR :-\
Movie was missing the wonderful gay subtext of the original trilogy
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I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CARRY YOUR BURDEN MR FRODO BUT I CAN CARRY* YOU
*suck filthily
that blows. My local theaters aren't charging extra for hfrJesus. Is that your normal 3D price or did they charge extra for HFR?Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.
Paid $16 to watch it in HFR :-\
Charged extra for HFR, I believe normal 3D is $13, regular 2D being $11.