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Title: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2012, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: TIME
The movie lacks majesty. Grand in parts, the movie is too often grandiose or grandiloquent; and the running time is indefensible.

Quote from: Associated Press
Tolkien's brisk story of intrepid little hobbit Bilbo Baggins is drawn out and diluted by dispensable trimmings better left for DVD extras.

Quote from: Hollywood Reporter
There are elements in this new film that are as spectacular as much of the Rings trilogy was, but there is much that is flat-footed and tedious as well, especially in the early going.

Quote from: Variety
Fulfilling just a fraction of J.R.R. Tolkien's "There and Back Again" subtitle, The Hobbit alternately rewards and abuses auds' appetite for all things Middle-earth.

Quote from: ComingSoon.net
An Unexpected Journey may as well be The Phantom Menace and God help us all if the next two movies aren't better than this one.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_an_unexpected_journey/

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Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 02:00:15 PM
Fuck Peter Jackson for making this more than one movie. You stupid cunt.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 06, 2012, 02:00:16 PM
Wait, it's a trilogy now?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
Wait, it's a trilogy now?

Two based on the book, one that's a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.

The first movie is just a few minutes shy of 3 hours.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 06, 2012, 02:09:48 PM
You could literally tell the entire Hobbit story in 3 hours. How the fuck do you split that novel into two 3 hour films, then add a "bridge" film between it and LOTR?

sigh
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Steve Contra on December 06, 2012, 02:14:01 PM
3 fucking hours?  For 3 films?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 02:17:55 PM
You could literally tell the entire Hobbit story in 3 hours. How the fuck do you split that novel into two 3 hour films, then add a "bridge" film between it and LOTR?

sigh

I read the hobbit in literally two days when i was in 7th grade.

so the only way to do this is be a rich jackass.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: nudemacusers on December 06, 2012, 02:19:24 PM
2 movies made sense (though not at 3 hours a piece), 3 is just indulgent.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 06, 2012, 02:22:42 PM
IDGAF.  I just finished rereading the hobbit again and I'm excited as fuck.  Will see in HFR 3D, bitches.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_an_unexpected_journey//forum/?threadid=328137347

:rofl
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 06, 2012, 02:30:33 PM
I guess the connection between The Hobbit and LOTR was a retcon to begin with, so maybe this is in the spirit of Tolkien after all. but come on guys, it's just a fun children's adventure story, why you gotta mess with it (other than "we wanna make LOTR2 and this is the closest source material short of going full special fellow on the mythology so it'll have to do", of course)
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 06, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
It's gross, I won't watch it.

But, strangely, my wife (she of the Twillight-wing of nerddom) is excited to watch it and wants to re-watch all 9 hours of the LOTR in prep.

Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 06, 2012, 02:35:59 PM
It's gross, I won't watch it.

But, strangely, my wife (she of the Twillight-wing of nerddom) is excited to watch it and wants to re-watch all 9 hours of the LOTR in prep.
That's what I'll be doing this weekend. :rock
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 06, 2012, 02:37:28 PM
Wait, three movies? I was annoyed when they split the book into two films, but three?!? WTF.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 06, 2012, 02:41:26 PM
By the way, the douche that reviewed it from Time also said that there should have been less dwarves.  ::)  So I think a lot of reviews are just idiots being idiots.  I honestly don't see Peter Jackson offending my Tolkien senses so much that I don't like the films. 
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 06, 2012, 02:45:35 PM
To be fair, when I heard The Hobbit was being adapted my first thought was that the amount of dwarves would be too much for audiences. Most of them don't have much of an impact on the novel iirc, and I figured the movie would basically split them into roles (the badass, the comic relief, etc).
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Steve Contra on December 06, 2012, 02:45:39 PM
Nah, reviewers creamed themselves over the LOTR, this just sounds awful.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 06, 2012, 02:53:42 PM
I lost interest in the LOTR films over the course of them being released. I thought Fellowship was great, but the other two didn't do a whole lot for me. If I watch Hobbit, it will be on cable or whatever pay channel it goes to.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 06, 2012, 02:59:27 PM
To be fair, when I heard The Hobbit was being adapted my first thought was that the amount of dwarves would be too much for audiences. Most of them don't have much of an impact on the novel iirc, and I figured the movie would basically split them into roles (the badass, the comic relief, etc).
I don't really care what's good for general audiences.  I want my Tolkien fantasy fancy tickled and I trust Peter Jackson to do it.  *shrug*
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
I honestly don't see Peter Jackson offending my Tolkien senses so much that I don't like the films. 

Same here. I'm not gonna be there day 1, because fighting a horde of people to see a three hour movie doesn't sound like much fun. But I'll definitely go watch it sometime in the latter half of this month.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Brehvolution on December 06, 2012, 03:03:06 PM
Will wait for 3D Bluray.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 06, 2012, 03:05:29 PM
I honestly don't see Peter Jackson offending my Tolkien senses so much that I don't like the films. 

Same here. I'm not gonna be there day 1, because fighting a horde of people to see a three hour movie doesn't sound like much fun. But I'll definitely go watch it sometime in the latter half of this month.
Heck yes.  Although I'll be there Day 2 because I'm a masochist like that. 

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Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2012, 03:07:23 PM
I don't necessarily mind a big audience, but this is going to be one of those movies where you need to get to the theater more than an hour in advance. Unless you LIKE sitting all the way at the front and in one of the corners.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 06, 2012, 03:14:45 PM
I don't necessarily mind a big audience, but this is going to be one of those movies where you need to get to the theater more than an hour in advance. Unless you LIKE sitting all the way at the front and in one of the corners.
I like reserved seating.   ;)
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: G The Resurrected on December 06, 2012, 03:17:40 PM
I like reserved seating.   ;)

God I wish our theaters had reserved seating.

So how is everyone gonna see the Hobbit? IMAX 3d HFR? IMAX 3d? HFR? Regular? Dolby Atmos?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2012, 03:20:57 PM
I don't necessarily mind a big audience, but this is going to be one of those movies where you need to get to the theater more than an hour in advance. Unless you LIKE sitting all the way at the front and in one of the corners.
I like reserved seating.   ;)

WELL WHOOPITY-DOO
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 06, 2012, 03:24:47 PM
I like reserved seating.   ;)

God I wish our theaters had reserved seating.

So how is everyone gonna see the Hobbit? IMAX 3d HFR? IMAX 3d? HFR? Regular? Dolby Atmos?
I was thinking about heading to San Antonio for IMAX 3D HFR but considering no real IMAX can do it I didn't think it would be worth it.  I'm just doing 3D HFR.  No Dolby Atmos here in Houston :(

I don't necessarily mind a big audience, but this is going to be one of those movies where you need to get to the theater more than an hour in advance. Unless you LIKE sitting all the way at the front and in one of the corners.
I like reserved seating.   ;)

WELL WHOOPITY-DOO
Move to Houston :D
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 06, 2012, 03:28:46 PM
Haters gonna hate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uFTBCg-C84
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Steve Contra on December 06, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
I like reserved seating.   ;)

God I wish our theaters had reserved seating.

So how is everyone gonna see the Hobbit? IMAX 3d HFR? IMAX 3d? HFR? Regular? Dolby Atmos?
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Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: bork on December 06, 2012, 03:34:21 PM
Wait, it's a trilogy now?

Two based on the book, one that's a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.

The first movie is just a few minutes shy of 3 hours.

What?  So it's going to have an original story?  WTF WHY?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: bork on December 06, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_an_unexpected_journey//forum/?threadid=328137347

:rofl

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scifi mark

My predicition will be that it will end up 70-80 with 80 being optimistic. The acting looks solid which should keep it up there. I dont see it dropping to 50-60

Dec 5 - 06:35 AM
Geordie Newlands

Geordie Newlands

i bet my left nut this shitty movie goes down like a 1 dollar hooker and the final score will be 50 percent so go cry little bitch

Dec 5 - 03:30 PM
David Tanny

David Tanny

You have experience with $1 hookers, huh?

Dec 5 - 03:30 PM
Zachary Wisz

Zachary Wisz

You know what man, get off my thread because you've trolled on it enough already. Find a different movie to bash like the Star Wars Prequels.

Dec 5 - 05:14 PM
Geordie Newlands

Geordie Newlands

i like the star wars prequels dumbass i bet they will shit all over this lord of the rings prequels. peter jackson is a poor mans george lucas. king kong sucked aswell only good movie he made was the frighteners.

Dec 5 - 08:05 PM
Zachary Wisz

Zachary Wisz

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/

Dec 5 - 09:15 PM
Geordie Newlands

Geordie Newlands

redlettermedia can fuck itself all 6 star wars movies are awesome in there own way they are not the prequels are not as shit as indiana jones 4.

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
Wait, it's a trilogy now?

Two based on the book, one that's a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.

The first movie is just a few minutes shy of 3 hours.

What?  So it's going to have an original story?  WTF WHY?

Because money.

Quote
According to Jackson, the third film would make extensive use of the appendices that Tolkien wrote to expand the story of Middle-Earth (published in the back of The Return of the King).
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Steve Contra on December 06, 2012, 03:40:59 PM
This shit needs to stop.  Nerds need to stop being such fucking corporate tools.  With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: bork on December 06, 2012, 03:44:44 PM
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.

I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid.   :(  So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.

I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid.   :(  So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?

It had a menacing villain narrating the trailer and lots of things getting destroyed and people running fear.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: bork on December 06, 2012, 03:48:03 PM
I saw that teaser.

And that Superman poster.

Nerd movies.   :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 06, 2012, 03:57:02 PM
It's gross, I won't watch it.

But, strangely, my wife (she of the Twillight-wing of nerddom) is excited to watch it and wants to re-watch all 9 hours of the LOTR in prep.
That's what I'll be doing this weekend. :rock

Regal Deer Park marathon :rock
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: bork on December 06, 2012, 04:01:52 PM
My wife, who enjoyed the LoTR movies and read the books (I didn't  :-[), has zero interest in seeing this in the theater after watching the preview.

I honestly don't see Peter Jackson offending my Tolkien senses so much that I don't like the films. 

Same here. I'm not gonna be there day 1, because fighting a horde of people to see a three hour movie doesn't sound like much fun. But I'll definitely go watch it sometime in the latter half of this month.

Yup, fuck that shit.  Going to see Skyfall a few weeks ago was an absolute nightmare...I thought waiting a week after release would be fine and that the massive lines were for Twilight, but...nope. 
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: FStop7 on December 06, 2012, 06:30:08 PM
Stretching it into a trilogy has lowered my expectations and the early criticisms are pretty much what I expected, except for the bit comparing it to The Phantom Menace.  I really hope it's not that bad.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Robo on December 06, 2012, 06:34:36 PM
The first three movies were shit anyway.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Barry Egan on December 06, 2012, 07:28:36 PM
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.

I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid.   :(  So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?

It had a menacing villain narrating the trailer and lots of things getting destroyed and people running fear.

And let's not forget the Inception beats.

BBBBBBRRRRRRAAAWWWWWWWWMMMMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Steve Contra on December 06, 2012, 07:55:07 PM
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.

I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid.   :(  So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?

It had a menacing villain narrating the trailer and lots of things getting destroyed and people running fear.

And let's not forget the Inception beats.

BBBBBBRRRRRRAAAWWWWWWWWMMMMMMMMMMMM
Yeah, every film needs those two for maximum genericness now.  YOU'LL SEE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE DUMB BBBBBBRRRRRRAAAWWWWWWWWMMMMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 06, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
Disappointing but exactly what everyone feared, really. Mostly disappointing 'cause i already paid for my tickets :'(

Still pretty much have to see it though - could never explain it to my 9 yr old self, who thought The Hobbit was the greatest thing ever.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 06, 2012, 08:17:07 PM
Disappointing but exactly what everyone feared, really. Mostly disappointing 'cause i already paid for my tickets :'(

Still pretty much have to see it though - could never explain it to my 9 yr old self, who thought The Hobbit was the greatest thing ever.

Are you going with your daughter? It'll be interesting to get kid's impressions on it lol, I have a feeling they'll love the comic relief of 10 Jar Jar Binks dwarfs, plus two badass dwarfs.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: hampster on December 06, 2012, 08:24:55 PM
Fuck. If people get angry at the Hobbit movies there won't be any will in Hollywood to make my dream Book of Three / Prydain Chronicles movies :'(
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: etiolate on December 06, 2012, 08:25:03 PM
PD you sure got a boner for dwarfs
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 06, 2012, 08:26:18 PM
was thinking about it until i heard the runtime. You want a kid's movie to be closer to 90 mins than 3 fucking hours.

She'll be old enough for it by the time it hits the home, and maybe the sequels we'll be able to see in the theatre together. If they don't look like sucking that is
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 08:29:07 PM
the only hobbit film is the 70's one.

Chip the glasses and crack the plates! Blunt the knives and bend the forks! That's what Bilbo Baggins hates!
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 06, 2012, 08:31:36 PM
I saw all the LOTR films at least three times at the theater (four for ROTK) and they were always full of a good amount of kids. Surprisingly they seemed to be awake for most of the movie, and didn't complain. Whereas when I saw POTC3 kids were complaining for the first 30 minutes ("where's Captain Jack? Is Captain Jack gonna be here soon?  :'( "), and after the movie went off many were asleep lol
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 06, 2012, 08:46:53 PM
We've taken her to the theater before but it's a bit of a crap-shoot. Even if it's something she actually likes like Tangled or Brave you can be sure there will be a half-dozen scary promos for stuff like Prometheus which have her screaming for the exit. We figured Spider-man would be a fun cartoony ride but no, DARK AND SERIOS MATCHOOR PROBLEMS (i liked it tho).

And we watched an ep of Adventure Time last night that had both of us in tears :lol You never know what you'll get with that show
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Robo on December 06, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
With this an that god awful fucking Dark Knight Star Trek trailer it's a bad day for nerd franchises.

I don't know what you're talking about and I am now afraid.   :(  So the new Star Trek looks to be shitty too, then?

It had a menacing villain narrating the trailer and lots of things getting destroyed and people running fear.

And let's not forget the Inception beats.

BBBBBBRRRRRRAAAWWWWWWWWMMMMMMMMMMMM

I love that sound, honestly.  Daft Punk abused it pretty heavily in their Tron score to no complaints.  And the end of this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujaoTOFTsGg
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: The Sceneman on December 06, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
you should try living in Wellington, the man is fucking deified here. The Prime Minister spoke at the Premier etc. What a fucking joke
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 06, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
Dwarfs are very upsetting
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 06, 2012, 09:29:47 PM
you should try living in Wellington, the man is fucking deified here. The Prime Minister spoke at the Premier etc. What a fucking joke

makes sense. Jackson probably is responsible for millions in tourist revenue, plus the tax revenue from filming there
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 06, 2012, 09:37:44 PM
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Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Trurl on December 06, 2012, 10:55:05 PM

Heck yes.  Although I'll be there Day 2 because I'm a masochist like that. 

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Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Diunx on December 07, 2012, 12:10:50 AM
Been listening to a lor of the rings audiobooks and I must say...I have a new appreciation for the films, yikes!
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Eric P on December 07, 2012, 09:48:03 AM
Fuck. If people get angry at the Hobbit movies there won't be any will in Hollywood to make my dream Book of Three / Prydain Chronicles movies :'(

I'd love to see someone else take a crack at Lloyd Alexander
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Diunx on December 15, 2012, 09:06:55 AM
Loved the movie, I know I'm in the minority but I found with way better than any of the LOTR films, but I deffinetly agree with a lot of it's criticism.

My theater loved it! there was one chick in the row in front of me that was really into the movie, gasping and putting her hands on her head during some of the action scenes and clapping when the dwarf got out of harms way, I kind of envy how much she enjoyed it :lol
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 15, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
the only hobbit film is the 70's one.

Chip the glasses and crack the plates! Blunt the knives and bend the forks! That's what Bilbo Baggins hates!

That song is in this version :P

If you liked the LotR trilogy, you'll like this.  It has some lighter hearted moments but not as much as the book, and there's some added stuff (Radagast, etc) that wasn't in the book.  Seems like people are shitting on it because they want something to shit on or don't like the genre.

Full disclosure:  I'm a fantasy nerd, so this tickles my nerd prostate in all the right places.  YMMV.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 15, 2012, 09:57:49 AM
HAIRY HOBBIT FEET WHEELS OF CHEESE DWARF SONGZ THE END
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 15, 2012, 09:59:09 AM
HAIRY HOBBIT FEET WHEELS OF CHEESE DWARF SONGZ THE END

forgot

FAT GOBLINS ANGRY ORCS N GOLLUMS
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 15, 2012, 11:00:21 AM
Loved the movie, I know I'm in the minority but I found with way better than any of the LOTR films, but I deffinetly agree with a lot of it's criticism.

My theater loved it! there was one chick in the row in front of me that was really into the movie, gasping and putting her hands on her head during some of the action scenes and clapping when the dwarf got out of harms way, I kind of envy how much she enjoyed it :lol
:lol I know what you mean.  My wife's cousins watch all sorts of shitty movies.  Anything that they watch is "awesome!" and I "have to see it!".  I really wish I could be entertained like that.  No snark.

the only hobbit film is the 70's one.

Chip the glasses and crack the plates! Blunt the knives and bend the forks! That's what Bilbo Baggins hates!

That song is in this version :P

If you liked the LotR trilogy, you'll like this.  It has some lighter hearted moments but not as much as the book, and there's some added stuff (Radagast, etc) that wasn't in the book.  Seems like people are shitting on it because they want something to shit on or don't like the genre.

Full disclosure:  I'm a fantasy nerd, so this tickles my nerd prostate in all the right places.  YMMV.
Yeah I see people talking about the pacing and then drooling over the LOTR Extended Editions.  I love the EE's but you're on fucking crack if you don't think they moved at glacier speed. 

The criticisms seem to be mostly petty or nonsensical.  "the story is very childish"   Uhhh.  Yeah.  It's fantasy... and have you read this shit?

I can't wait to see it tonight.  :hyper :hyper  Hyped as fuck
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Akala on December 15, 2012, 11:08:29 AM
Holy fuck I want that too :(

Hollywood is creatively bankrupt, if these do enough bank I'm sure we'll see them soon enough. They will totally fuck it up though. #teamfflewdur
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ManaByte on December 15, 2012, 12:01:12 PM
Wait, it's a trilogy now?

Two based on the book, one that's a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.

The first movie is just a few minutes shy of 3 hours.

All three are The Hobbit, the "bridge" movie isn't happening. Anything in that third movie is added into the main trilogy.

Basically it's:

An Unexpected Journey - Everything in The Hobbit up to the Eagles, plus White Council and Radagast/Dol Guldur stuff from the Appendices in ROTK (plus Thorin backstory from the Appendices).

Desolation of Smaug - All the Smaug stuff, plus more Appendices. Likely will have Gandalf, Radagast, and Saruman in Dol Guldur facing the Necromancer.

There And Back Again - The Battle of Five Armies and again more stuff from the Appendices. I know there was one point where Jackson said he wanted to film the stuff with Aragorn and Gandalf hunting Gollum, but who knows if that will actually happen.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 15, 2012, 01:54:30 PM
Going to see the high frames 3d version in a couple of hours. I think I'm more interested to see the tech than the movie honestly.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 15, 2012, 02:43:31 PM
I really liked it  :o

Saw it in HFR 3D, and at first the frame rate was really strange, but once the movie gets rolling with more sweeping set pieces and not confined to just a hobbit hole, you forget about it.  I thought it was really beneficial to the act scenes.  Very cool shit.  Also probably the best 3D movie I've seen.

It was as per usual too long, and the Radagast shit is just stupid.  Too childish.  Other than that though, everything was great.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 15, 2012, 02:46:10 PM
Saw the Hobbit in 2d, its not like the book but its ok. There is one thing that changes the dynamic of the book entirely.
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The movie is still cool with some nice additions
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but its not omgawd like lotr was.

I would have liked if peter jackson tried something fresh in the look, not the epic melodrama maybe but a bit more down to earth adventure/look/feel but while retaining thw humour. The movie has funny bits, but its nowhere near as lighthearted as the book I loved more the Lotr.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 15, 2012, 02:47:01 PM
I really liked it  :o

Saw it in HFR 3D, and at first the frame rate was really strange, but once the movie gets rolling with more sweeping set pieces and not confined to just a hobbit hole, you forget about it.  I thought it was really beneficial to the act scenes.  Very cool shit.  Also probably the best 3D movie I've seen.

It was as per usual too long, and the Radagast shit is just stupid.  Too childish.  Other than that though, everything was great.

A nintendo fan calling the radegast bit childish. My browser is imploding.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 15, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
I honestly just didn't see the point of him.  It's been a while since I read The Hobbit but I don't remember him having that much of a role.  It was cheesy and his animal friends made the film feel more like a Disney movie.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 15, 2012, 03:00:04 PM
Yeah the bitching in the press about the 48fps actually sort of makes me wanna see it. They're all like "it makes it look like a really expensive version of an old BBC show" and I'm all like "and the downside is ... ?"
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 15, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
I honestly just didn't see the point of him.  It's been a while since I read The Hobbit but I don't remember him having that much of a role.  It was cheesy and his animal friends made the film feel more like a Disney movie.

He's in the appendix of lotr. The booka was much more lighthearted than this movie, and I think he was a welcome addition even if trivial.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 15, 2012, 03:06:33 PM
Yeah the bitching in the press about the 48fps actually sort of makes me wanna see it. They're all like "it makes it look like a really expensive version of an old BBC show" and I'm all like "and the downside is ... ?"

I'm the same way. The more they bitched, the more the contrarian part of me wants to see it to make up my own mind.
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Post by: G The Resurrected on December 15, 2012, 04:36:30 PM
Going to see the high frames 3d version in a couple of hours. I think I'm more interested to see the tech than the movie honestly.

That's what got me to go see the movie day one. And it did not disappoint, when it comes to 3d movies having the extra information for the brain to process works a million times better than 24fps ever did. Motion that was once blurred by the post processing effects in 3d are now sharp and clean 3d elements that add a sense of much needed complexity and depth.

I was also surprised to note that my theater had just finished installing a Dolby Atmos installation, but unfortunately for me The Hobbit did not come with that soundtrack.
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Post by: Diunx on December 15, 2012, 05:24:39 PM
I was quite surprise by the drug allusions regarding the brown wizard since this was supposed to be based on a children's book, both scenes got a big laugh out of the audience.

The movie was quite a looker.
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Post by: Cormacaroni on December 15, 2012, 08:59:07 PM
And we watched an ep of Adventure Time last night that had both of us in tears :lol You never know what you'll get with that show

Laughing tears or the sadsies? Which episode?

I'm not excited for this movie at all, not interested in anyway either.

Genuine tears of sadness - even my wife was teary and she only glances at the show while we are watching. The episode is 'I Remember You' but most of its power is from an unexpected reveal that plays on your whole history to date with 2 side characters. Never saw it coming. It uses some fairly standard tearjerker plot points I guess, but the way they exploit this (using a song written by one character about another, sung by the other character to the first, who has subsequently lost any memory of writing it or who they once were or what their relationship was...) is just masterful. Even thinking about it now has me welling up :lol
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Post by: Cormacaroni on December 15, 2012, 09:01:13 PM
The Hobbit was great btw, loved it. Long but light on its feet, and I had the impression that Jackson was feeling liberated from a heavy narrative - real sense of play throughout, like I had with Tintin (which I also loved). Totally down for more. And the 48fps 3D IMAX was the most amazing image quality i've ever seen, only marred by the horrible Japanese subtitles at fixed depth throughout.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 15, 2012, 09:18:39 PM
forgot we had a thread for this:


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I really liked The Hobbit. I felt it did a far better job of invoking the feel of fantasy adventure story than the LOTR movies did. Specifically with giving character to the "enemies" that are faced:
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The trolls, then goblins.
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I think the films problem is that barely anything happens and it's literally ALL setup for the events to come. Nothing of real substance happens. And in a weird sense, it's basically a remake of Fellowship. It follows a lot of the same beats and the events mirror Fellowship fairly closely.

That said. I got a lot of enjoyment watching it. The riddles scene was quite good as were the action set pieces.

and my follow up question:

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So did anyone see the HFR version? I don't really think my theatre has that capability. Or maybe i'm just completely ignorant to the concept. For most of the film it looked like any other film (except 3d) but there was a few specific moments (Rivendell especially) where I could swear it was in a higher frame rate. it was jarring because it was just a few moments.
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Post by: ManaByte on December 15, 2012, 09:23:23 PM
The Hobbit was great btw, loved it. Long but light on its feet, and I had the impression that Jackson was feeling liberated from a heavy narrative - real sense of play throughout, like I had with Tintin (which I also loved). Totally down for more. And the 48fps 3D IMAX was the most amazing image quality i've ever seen, only marred by the horrible Japanese subtitles at fixed depth throughout.

At the same time, he's still able to nail some genuine emotion at points; despite idiot reviewers saying the movie lacked any of the same emotion LOTR had.

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Bilbo telling the Dwarves that he'll help them find their home because they don't have one.
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and

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Thorin's reaction to Bilbo after being dropped off by the Eagles.
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Post by: Mupepe on December 15, 2012, 09:30:05 PM
I'm in the theater right now waiting for himu to show up
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Post by: ManaByte on December 15, 2012, 09:33:57 PM
I'm in the theater right now waiting for himu to show up

You have a hole cut in the popcorn bucket?
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Post by: Diunx on December 15, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
I'm in the theater right now waiting for himu to show up

Use protection, god knows what himu has been doing at the park.
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Post by: headwalk on December 15, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
I'm in the theater right now waiting for himu to show up

Use protection, god knows what himu has been doing at the park.

sometimes even god closes his eyes.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 15, 2012, 10:48:11 PM
I'm off all next week, so I'm gonna go see it on a weekday afternoon to miss some of the crowds. Going all-in, 48fps and everything. The haters ain't gonna get me down.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on December 15, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
Totally forgot to add- the 48 fps WAS really cool in 3d.  I think if it wasn't 3d, it would probably annoy me, but 3d is still "new" enough that adding something else new to it adds to the experience I think.  Definitely the best 3d I've seen yet.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 16, 2012, 12:45:00 AM
Saw it a few hours ago.

I guess you could analysis the 48 frames thing on a few different levels.

First off it was jarring for me at first. Even going in with my contrarion attitude and having read the previews it doesn't quite prepare you. It really does at first kinda strike you like the stereotypes. My initial impresion was sort of a bbc teleplay. It has that feel and emotion to it which I can definitely attribute to the 48 fps because the Lord of the Rings movies didn't feel that way.

Then for me after about 30 minutes you just kinda notice yourself getting use to it and by the end I was fine with it. In fact in special effects heavy movies like this I think it works quite well. Now I wouldn't want to see Casablanca or Fincher's seven in 48 frame because for me it would give works like those a different tonal feel but for stuff that is fantasy or lots of fantastical cg stuff like a superhero movie it would be fine.

It also really helps the 3-D. I didn't have any of the eye fatigue that tends to accompany 3-D films.

As far as the actual movie, I liked it, but I probably didn't like it as much as any of the three LOTR movies. A bit too slow although Martin Freeman nails it. And I didn't have a problem with the other dwarves. For me they helped tone down the overly serious tone that Peter Jackson brings to these movies which grates on me at times.
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Post by: Himu on December 16, 2012, 02:33:49 AM
Saw the movie with Mups and his lovely wife.

Eh...I mixed on it, but I'm mostly disappointed.

One thing, I couldn't stand the 48 frames per second. I thought it made the movie feel cheap, just like an animated gif with too many frames does (as in, the action moves too fast). It felt like a day time soap opera in terms of editing because of it.

As I think about the movie, I lean on 'not liking it' because I'm starting to forget what happened besides the pivotal moments. I felt the film was overly wrought, had very inconsistent pacing, was mostly dull in its approach, and many scenes (goblins and warg sections) felt like fan fiction. It really reminded me of The Phantom Menace in its excessive use of cg in the stead of tight narrative and storytelling. Not that it's as bad as TPM, but it certainly reminded me of it.

I thought that many key scenes (Gollum, the Dwarves first arriving at Bag End) were ruined by Peter Jacksonism. They bored to me tears.

On the other hand, the film has a lot of great scenes on its plate as well.

I can't say it's a bad movie, because it isn't, but I can't say it's a great movie either. It felt very middling, and was a far cry from the LOTR trilogy.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 16, 2012, 02:42:44 AM
one of my brothers just got out of a later showing, said he really didn't like it. He's read the book but said it felt beyond "childish" into Jar Jar territory, and featured cringe worthy lines. He had no problem with the fps outside of during effects scenes, which he said looked horrible.

bah, I doubt I'll see it anytime soon
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Post by: Human Snorenado on December 16, 2012, 02:45:37 AM
Further confirmation:  fantasy just isn't for minorities :smug

Hooray, white people get to keep NASCAR and orcs!
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2012, 02:47:11 AM
one of my brothers just got out of a later showing, said he really didn't like it. He's read the book but said it felt beyond "childish" into Jar Jar territory, and featured cringe worthy lines. He had no problem with the fps outside of during effects scenes, which he said looked horrible.

bah, I doubt I'll see it anytime soon

Some scenes have really amateurish camera work and lighting. The part where they find the cave with the Elven weapons in particular. In my mind, I was saying,"holy shit, did a community college student do this shot?" in my head.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 16, 2012, 11:03:38 AM
(http://www.likecool.com/Gear/Pic/Hobbit%20cheat%20sheet/Hobbit-cheat-sheet.jpg)
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Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2012, 11:45:13 AM
I loved it. 48 fps looked great. It made it look stunning to me. I have never seen such clean pan shots. 

as far as the actual movie, I still loved it. But it really felt like PJ's version of a LOTR prequel based on a mishmash of fanfic and other Tolkien stories. I really don't get how you could say there are jar jar moments or that it is childish if you're familiar with the book. The book IS childish. If anything I felt the constant forced tension and inconsistent tones were more problematic. Again though, I loved it. It was on my mind the whole night and even when I woke up. Needless to say, I was happy as hell to go back to middle earth.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 16, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
I enjoyed how the tone of the movie was more "childish". It worked better for the story they were telling.


The scene near the end that's in the trailers, where Bilbo tells the dwarves he will help get their home back, was really well done.
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Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2012, 12:02:28 PM
I enjoyed how the tone of the movie was more "childish". It worked better for the story they were telling.


The scene near the end that's in the trailers, where Bilbo tells the dwarves he will help get their home back, was really well done.
yeah. I loved that part.

they even went to certain lengths to make it less childish I think. Radagast seemed toned down and I have a feeling the eagles didn't talk for that same reason.Though perhaps they will in the sequel considering that's when they do in the book.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 16, 2012, 01:18:42 PM
loved martin freeman, too
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Post by: Himu on December 16, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
It felt like they didn't know what movie they wanted to make: The Hobbit, or an epic sweeping LOTR film. The Hobbit is not Lord of the Rings; Mups and I were talking about that very thing before the film started. But in terms of execution, this is a film that has a war speech and goblin beheadings on top of a character being covered in troll snot. Felt inconsistent. One is not the other.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 16, 2012, 03:07:35 PM
Was Bombur the fat dwarf? I remember in the book there was a fat dwarf who kinda got picked on.
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Post by: Himu on December 16, 2012, 03:15:09 PM
yes bombur is the fat dwarf
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on December 16, 2012, 03:31:28 PM
yes bombur is the fat dwarf

was he in the movie? I can't remember any scenes with a fat dwarf being fat
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Post by: Himu on December 16, 2012, 03:34:06 PM
bombur is in the movie, but not all of the dwarves in this movie are fat. Many are in shape and skinny. But yeah, bombur's character in the film is essentially HAHA HE'S FAT
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Post by: naff on December 16, 2012, 03:42:09 PM
Enjoyed this a lot. Worst thing was the brown wizard (Radagas?). Don't remember him being in the book, seemed like a poor addition of some stoner humour.

Ah, right he was mentioned in the book but briefly. Been a long time since I read the Hobbit...

In regards to the third film I figure it's going to be based on Appendices and other Tolkien material bridging the time between The Hobbit and FOTR. It would be the height of arrogance if PJ decides he can come up with an original story. Dude is a major tosser though so I guess it wouldn't be out of character
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Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2012, 04:47:58 PM
I loved it. 48 fps looked great. It made it look stunning to me. I have never seen such clean pan shots. 

as far as the actual movie, I still loved it. But it really felt like PJ's version of a LOTR prequel based on a mishmash of fanfic and other Tolkien stories. I really don't get how you could say there are jar jar moments or that it is childish if you're familiar with the book. The book IS childish. If anything I felt the constant forced tension and inconsistent tones were more problematic. Again though, I loved it. It was on my mind the whole night and even when I woke up. Needless to say, I was happy as hell to go back to middle earth.
Thank you. I totally agree 100%.

The only thing I don't like is how much they changed the character of Thorin from the books. I understand why though
yeah. That bugged me but it was a personal "that's not the book" gripe

Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 16, 2012, 04:52:13 PM
bombur is in the movie, but not all of the dwarves in this movie are fat. Many are in shape and skinny. But yeah, bombur's character in the film is essentially HAHA HE'S FAT

IIRC that was more or less his character in the book too
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 16, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
I haven't read the hobbit in a long time, what was so different about thorin in the movie?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 16, 2012, 04:59:22 PM
also the misty mountain's cold as the main theme to the score was wonderful
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Post by: naff on December 16, 2012, 07:01:33 PM
also the misty mountain's cold as the main theme to the score was wonderful

So good

I assume everyone liked the HFR 3D? First time I felt comfortable watching 3D at the movies, it would be amazing if all action blockbusters start using this
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Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 07:17:50 PM
I see a bunch of people on twitter complaining about headaches from it. I loved it but then I play most games in 3D at a higher framerate than that so it was no biggie.

I felt the perspective was weirdly off in the first few minutes and blamed it on me being slow to acclimate to the HFR, but thinking about it now, that bit was all in Bag End and they were doing all sorts of camera trickery to pull off the different heights anyway. The BR commentary tracks/special features on it should be interesting.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 16, 2012, 07:25:32 PM
 :o totally forgot about the prospects for BR.  jackson loooooooves some extra features.  gonna be sexy
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Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 07:31:15 PM
it's the first time i saw a movie and thought, the Blu-Ray is going to be so disappointing, visually. :'(

Bring on those 4K 120mhz 3D TVs i guess
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 16, 2012, 07:41:55 PM
for real
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ManaByte on December 16, 2012, 07:45:38 PM
Movie sets new December box office record, BoxOfficeMojo calls it a failure:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3587&p=.htm
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Post by: Robo on December 16, 2012, 07:46:45 PM
I saw this this morning and really liked it, surprisingly, considering the LOTR trilogy is terrible.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 16, 2012, 07:52:05 PM
robo  :'(
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 16, 2012, 07:58:38 PM
Movie sets new December box office record, BoxOfficeMojo calls it a failure:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3587&p=.htm

Yeah, there reasoning is just...stupid. It made $11 million more in its opening weekend than Return of the King and I'm pretty sure nobody considers that to be a box office failure. It'll make big money over the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
I guess everyone should have seen it coming, but the interview with Christopher Tolkien where he talks for the first time about the movies is depressing. New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny. Same will happen with The Hobbit. Sickening.
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Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 08:09:35 PM
http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/my-father-039-s-quot-eviscerated-quot-work-son-of-hobbit-scribe-j.r.r.-tolkien-finally-speaks-out/hobbit-silmarillion-lord-of-rings/c3s10299/#.UMCVFpPjnfY
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 16, 2012, 08:12:33 PM
Christopher Tolkien is an ass.
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Post by: Boogie on December 16, 2012, 08:14:23 PM
New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny.

lol, the fuck?

Just shy of 3 billion worldwide gross revenue for 3 movies, and trying to claim a loss?  Suuuuure, New Line, suuuure....
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Post by: Boogie on December 16, 2012, 08:14:42 PM
Christopher Tolkien is an ass.

Well ya, that too.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on December 16, 2012, 08:16:12 PM
I haven't read the hobbit in a long time, what was so different about thorin in the movie?

Thorin isn't really a noble king in exile who is doing it all because he wants his homeland back; in the book he's kind of a dick that wants the gold.  Also, he didn't wound the pale orc in the book; that was his cousin Dain, and the orc didn't come back later for revenge- he actually died.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 08:23:24 PM
New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny.

lol, the fuck?

Just shy of 3 billion worldwide gross revenue for 3 movies, and trying to claim a loss?  Suuuuure, New Line, suuuure....

Studios almost always claim a loss on big budget movies. They hide all their other smaller losses from other projects under it. i.e. that set in South Africa they built for use in a tiny art film will show up in the Mission IMpossible budget even though no part of it was filmed in South Africa. Why they are never called on this other than by talent agency reps, I don't know. But it leads to the Hollywood maxim for contracts - 'Points of the gross, not the net'. i.e. if your contract states you will get a share of the NET profits, you won't ever see a penny, no matter how much it makes at the box office. Tolkien signed the rights away decades ago of course.

Also, to be fair, the movies triggered massive sales of the books, which the estate still owns the rights to. But I still think it is vile the way they eulogize Tolkien in the special features and so on, then screw his family like this
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Post by: Boogie on December 16, 2012, 08:30:42 PM
New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny.

lol, the fuck?

Just shy of 3 billion worldwide gross revenue for 3 movies, and trying to claim a loss?  Suuuuure, New Line, suuuure....

Studios almost always claim a loss on big budget movies. They hide all their other smaller losses from other projects under it. i.e. that set in South Africa they built for use in a tiny art film will show up in the Mission IMpossible budget even though no part of it was filmed in South Africa. Why they are never called on this other than by talent agency reps, I don't know. But it leads to the Hollywood maxim for contracts - 'Points of the gross, not the net'. i.e. if your contract states you will get a share of the NET profits, you won't ever see a penny, no matter how much it makes at the box office. Tolkien signed the rights away decades ago of course.


Sorry, yeah, I'm aware of that practise of the studios, generally, just amazed that they're pulling that shit on what is inarguably one of the top 10 most lucrative movie franchises in history.
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Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 08:45:24 PM
yes, absolutely brazen and transparent.

Tolkien's estate lawyers are contesting it no doubt but i'm sure it's a huge strain on the family. Amazing how often these massive successes turn into poisoned chalices.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 16, 2012, 08:53:36 PM
yes, absolutely brazen and transparent.

Tolkien's estate lawyers are contesting it no doubt but i'm sure it's a huge strain on the family. Amazing how often these massive successes turn into poisoned chalices.

New Line tried to do the same thing with Peter Jackson, which is why he almost didn't come back to direct The Hobbit.

By the way, The Tolkien Trust sued New Line back a few years and ended up getting a settlement of about $38 million. So, yeah, don't feel TOO sorry for poor ol' Christopher.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ManaByte on December 16, 2012, 08:58:04 PM
I guess everyone should have seen it coming, but the interview with Christopher Tolkien where he talks for the first time about the movies is depressing. New Line is using the old studio accounting trickery to claim the LOTR trilogy movies made a loss and not giving the estate a penny. Same will happen with The Hobbit. Sickening.

New Line screwed over Jackson for the exact same reason. He sued, and won. The Tolkien estate will get their money.

Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
That's cool, and I realize New Line was desperately trying to stave off bankruptcy back then (probably still is? Don't follow studio gossip). It's still shitty treatment and you'd hope that settlement would have included a re-negotiation of the rights for the Hobbit so they don't have to go through it again.
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Post by: Himu on December 16, 2012, 09:54:38 PM
also the misty mountain's cold as the main theme to the score was wonderful

So good

I assume everyone liked the HFR 3D? First time I felt comfortable watching 3D at the movies, it would be amazing if all action blockbusters start using this

I mostly didn't like it but I didn't find it to be a benefit to the 3d.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ManaByte on December 16, 2012, 09:58:12 PM
That's cool, and I realize New Line was desperately trying to stave off bankruptcy back then (probably still is? Don't follow studio gossip). It's still shitty treatment and you'd hope that settlement would have included a re-negotiation of the rights for the Hobbit so they don't have to go through it again.

From the stories it was partially trying to stave off bankruptcy and partially people being jealous. The people who were responsible for LOTR left New Line right after ROTK, and the new people were the ones who cooked the books and screwed over Jackson and the Estate.

They went bankrupt and New Line is nothing more than a Warner Bros. brand now.
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Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 10:12:14 PM
People give you shit for being obsessed but I have to say you are killing it here Manabyte
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Post by: ManaByte on December 16, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
BTW saw it a second time today in HFR3D. When I saw the screening Monday night there was no trailer, and this time we got Superman in 3D which looked fucking awesome in 3D.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 16, 2012, 10:23:09 PM
Seeing the New Line Cinema logo was a bit jarring when the movie started.
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Post by: naff on December 16, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
I mostly didn't like it but I didn't find it to be a benefit to the 3d.

Bad wording, you didn't like it but you didn't find it a benefit? Did you mean you didn't like it but did find it a benefit to the 3D?

I saw this this morning and really liked it, surprisingly, considering the LOTR trilogy is terrible.

I was so bored in ROTK I nearly fell asleep. Fellowship was pretty cool, Twin Towers.. Eh, was ok. Hobbit=FOTR>TT>ROTK
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
BTW saw it a second time today in HFR3D. When I saw the screening Monday night there was no trailer, and this time we got Superman in 3D which looked fucking awesome in 3D.

bearded, eyes shut, descending naked in Jesus Christ pose...yup that's the Mort Weisinger Superman we know and love :lol

I will go see it, and you're right about it looking great image-quality wise, but something about that pomposity really turns me off.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: chronovore on December 17, 2012, 07:24:45 PM
Re-watching LOTR because The Wife hadn't seen it. She says she wants to "get ready" for The Hobbit, even though I warned her that it's unnecessary. She's game, and before I bail from Japan I want to finally watch the Extended Editions I got from Synthesizer Patel's Sayonara Sale before he bailed from Japan.

BTW saw it a second time today in HFR3D. When I saw the screening Monday night there was no trailer, and this time we got Superman in 3D which looked fucking awesome in 3D.

bearded, eyes shut, descending naked in Jesus Christ pose...yup that's the Mort Weisinger Superman we know and love :lol

I will go see it, and you're right about it looking great image-quality wise, but something about that pomposity really turns me off.
Cormacaroni, if you watch Superman Returns again, you'll welcome anything fresh they are willing to try with the character.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 17, 2012, 07:28:15 PM
ehhhhh, surely you should watch the Hobbit FIRST

Superman-as-Christ is the least fresh thing ever dude - a starving yogi could live for months on that stack of comics
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 17, 2012, 07:51:41 PM
Superman-as-Christ is the least fresh thing ever dude - a starving yogi could live for months on that stack of comics

Seriously. Has everyone forgotten the first episode of Smallville already?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 17, 2012, 08:25:51 PM
I mostly didn't like it but I didn't find it to be a benefit to the 3d.

Bad wording, you didn't like it but you didn't find it a benefit? Did you mean you didn't like it but did find it a benefit to the 3D?

I saw this this morning and really liked it, surprisingly, considering the LOTR trilogy is terrible.

I was so bored in ROTK I nearly fell asleep. Fellowship was pretty cool, Twin Towers.. Eh, was ok. Hobbit=FOTR>TT>ROTK

Didn't like hfr and saw no benefit to the 3d by using it. I forgot the film was in 3d after awhile just like every other film with 3d.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Boogie on December 17, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
The new Star Trek movie in IMAX 3D previews absolutely shat on Superman reboot. I would go so far as to say it might be the best looking 3D movie ive ever seen.

Also it actually looked good; i couldnt help but feel a little meh about superman. I loved him when I was a kid, but just like Goku he lost appeal.

Was it different from the trailer that hit the net last week?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ManaByte on December 18, 2012, 08:20:46 AM
The new Star Trek movie in IMAX 3D previews absolutely shat on Superman reboot. I would go so far as to say it might be the best looking 3D movie ive ever seen.

Also it actually looked good; i couldnt help but feel a little meh about superman. I loved him when I was a kid, but just like Goku he lost appeal.

I can do without JJ Abrams lens flares in IMAX 3D, thanks.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 18, 2012, 11:03:31 AM
I mostly didn't like it but I didn't find it to be a benefit to the 3d.

Bad wording, you didn't like it but you didn't find it a benefit? Did you mean you didn't like it but did find it a benefit to the 3D?

He's using "but" in the same crushingly disappointing way it's used in "I would do anything for love but I won't do that" Damn you Meatloaf!  :maf
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: bud on December 18, 2012, 01:36:16 PM
i LOVED it.

but it doesn't matter. you absolutely need to see this for the hfr 3d alone. it looks fucking incredible.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 18, 2012, 10:36:21 PM
you absolutely need to see this for the hfr 3d alone. it looks fucking incredible.

That's what I'm going to do Thursday.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 18, 2012, 10:43:36 PM
If you didn't notice the HFR 3D, you didn't see it in HFR 3D
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 10:56:49 PM
I saw it in Imax 3d today... 3 tickets for 50 bucks? GOT DAMN
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: bud on December 19, 2012, 12:44:19 PM
I saw it in Imax 3d

 :fbm
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: duckman2000 on December 19, 2012, 02:41:49 PM
As if LOTR were good films.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 19, 2012, 02:45:18 PM
The first one was good and an amazing accomplishment that someone could bring it to the screen.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: chronovore on December 19, 2012, 11:44:05 PM
Wife and I finished Fellowship of the Ring, and she was stunned that it wasn't the end of the story. Japanese people are, for some ODD REASON, stunned that an epic story can't be told and finished in ONE FILM that lasts a mere THREE HOURS.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
To be fair, a couple years ago my wife was also stunned when I re-watched The Empire Strikes Back and she found out Darth is Luke's dad.
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Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 19, 2012, 11:46:42 PM
...despite the evidence of oh, One Piece, Dragon Ball, 20th Century Boys etc etc etc
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 12:15:20 AM
Well, to be fair, those are comics. For Japanese, film is different prolly. Not too many Japanese films have movie spanning arcs. If there's a sequel, usually its a totally separate story.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 20, 2012, 12:22:15 AM
I'm gonna be seeing this again with my dad on Saturday in HFR.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 12:31:55 AM
Oh for real? I didn't even know that. How popular was it?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 01:22:15 AM
Well, I was specifically talking about Japanese film itself.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: chronovore on December 20, 2012, 04:26:02 AM
Yes, there were two Death Note movies, and another based on the "L" character, who was portrayed by Kenichi Matsuyama -- a legit actor who was breaking big at the time of DN.

However, in terms of story arcs I don't think so, but Japan is no stranger to ongoing series of films. The Zatoichi movies, Waru, Minami Oo, Otoko ha Tsurai series -- dozens of each.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 08:58:31 AM
Ongoing films is one thing, but Zatoichi films and those others are all finished in one movie in self contained stories. We're talking about epic, sweeping narratives that span multiple films. Japan, in terms of its cinematic history, as far I know, its most famous films are nothing like that.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: headwalk on December 20, 2012, 09:00:38 AM
my review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDZUeW-z8Vc#t=3m31
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 22, 2012, 07:46:19 PM
So... HFR

I can tell you one thing, HFR improves both 3D and CG effects. The improved clarity and crispness made this one of the nicest looking films I've ever seen. Everything looked so ridiculously clear ... it was a bit jarring at first.

The flashback battle at Moria looked crazy good, as did any scene with sweeping vistas viewed from a helicopter.

However the issues with HFR present themselves during any scene that involves quick cuts and fast quick actions from the characters. Examples would be: Bilbo and Frodo preparing for the party (Bilbo going around hiding all his silverware), the entire Radagast intro, and a few others. In these examples the HFR made the actions look way way too fast and comical.

I think more time needs to go into HFR and if they can fix the issue with the fast motion look I think it would prefer it over 24fps.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: headwalk on December 26, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
there are few combinations more wretched than green screen and plot armour.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ManaByte on December 27, 2012, 08:25:28 AM
Made the mistake of checking it out in IMAX 3D and it looked like absolute dog shit. HFR 3D has completely ruined normal 3D movies for me.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 27, 2012, 07:52:31 PM
Movie was good, haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2012, 07:57:04 PM
Movie was forgettable. Forgot I've already even seen it.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 29, 2012, 06:11:58 PM
Movie was forgettable. Forgot I've already even seen it.

Ive watched Lotr 1 this week and it reminded me how much better it is then the hobbit.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 29, 2012, 06:13:32 PM
I think the best thing I can say about this film is that I really want to go see it again. It's rare that I feel compelled to see a film twice in theaters.

Werent you also on about Avatar and how TDK deserved an Oscar or am I getting peolple mixed up?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 29, 2012, 07:13:59 PM
The only thing I really didn't like about The Hobbit was the earlier scene with Radagast, which embodied the worst of what they're doing with this film trilogy. Meaning that it was a totally extraneous scene that served no purpose and ultimately bogged down the flow of the movie. It was also painfully bad.

Most of the scenes in the very beginning, with old Bilbo and Frodo, could have gone, as well, as could the scene with Gandalf talking to the Council, since nothing all that important came out of it other than to reinforce what was already very obvious about all four characters.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 29, 2012, 07:58:16 PM
I loved The Hobbit. Yeah, it was boring, but I'm invoking fryinghigh's defense of TNG in that it was the good kind of boring. A kind of boring I could settle in and watch all day. Stretch it out to four movies, I don't care; bring it on.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Barry Egan on December 29, 2012, 08:13:46 PM
It's almost as if Peter Jackson realized he wasn't paying proper respect to Tolkiens style by leaving out all the details that don't mean anything. 
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 29, 2012, 09:29:28 PM
.Most of the scenes in the very beginning, with old Bilbo and Frodo, could have gone, as well, as could the scene with Gandalf talking to the Council, since nothing all that important came out of it other than to reinforce what was already very obvious about all four characters.

That Saruman is Switzerland (but secretly Hitler), Elrond is a racist, Gandalf is a meddler and Galadriel is hot? 

I agree.  Man, is Galadriel hot.  If only they could figure out how to get my future ex-girlfriend Miranda Otto back in these movies.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 29, 2012, 09:56:32 PM
.Most of the scenes in the very beginning, with old Bilbo and Frodo, could have gone, as well, as could the scene with Gandalf talking to the Council, since nothing all that important came out of it other than to reinforce what was already very obvious about all four characters.

That Saruman is Switzerland (but secretly Hitler), Elrond is a racist, Gandalf is a meddler and Galadriel is hot? 

I agree.  Man, is Galadriel hot.  If only they could figure out how to get my future ex-girlfriend Miranda Otto back in these movies.

Pretty much, yeah, although I was going to say that Elrond is cautious to a fault and Gandalf and Galadriel are "secretly" in love but it's totally platonic and will never go anywhere.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 29, 2012, 11:10:16 PM
uhh but Gandalf can indeed die.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2012, 11:27:19 PM
Yeah. Gandalf is very aware (not scared) that he can die throughout all of the lore.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 30, 2012, 12:05:42 AM
Why are you reading Youtube comments sections? Of course they're dumb, they're the Youtube comments section.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Robo on December 30, 2012, 12:22:33 AM
I dunno, I think stinknuggits69 is on to something there.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 30, 2012, 12:59:08 AM
You sound more pissed that the nerds interject their own interpretations rather than how the movies reflect the books description of Gandalf. Nerds are intolerable on any subject.

the movies do a pretty good job of not mixing other tolkien lore too much.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 30, 2012, 01:15:32 AM
I don't think any of the four movies have ever really tried to play up Gandalf as being some kind of Superman-esque character, as that video you just posted shows.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 30, 2012, 11:51:08 AM
Have had a week to really think on this and I really do think its going to be a bloated mess by what I've seen so far. Trading levity with poignant moments and mood for almost reference like comprehensiveness of everything the book has to offer and even things outside the scope of the book.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on December 30, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
We went to it last night with some friends of ours and I personally couldn't wait for the thing to end.  It definitely got better once they got out of Rivendale but the story is so thin I can't imagine how they're going to stretch this over two more movies.  Maybe the addition of the Necromancer will help, I don't know, but right now I couldn't give two shits about Smaug and his gold fetish.

Radagast is crossing over into Jar Jar territory IMO.  That better be the last we see of that guy.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 30, 2012, 10:17:11 PM
You sound more pissed that the nerds interject their own interpretations rather than how the movies reflect the books description of Gandalf. Nerds are intolerable on any subject.

the movies do a pretty good job of not mixing other tolkien lore too much.

They would be sued by the Tolkien estate if they mixed in one word of other tolkein lore, lol
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 30, 2012, 10:34:12 PM
The nerds ruin everything. It's kind of like the Marvel nerds who got pissed that Thor didn't completely curbstomp Iron Man when they fought in The Avengers. But what's interesting about Tolkien's lore is that it changes so much between The Hobbit and The Silmarillion. Gandalf goes from being a wizard to being an angelic being on the same level as Sauron, but who is obligated not to interfere too much in mortal affairs. I'm glad they've kept him more on the grounded side in the films.

Tolkien had been working on his mythology (that eventually and posthumously got published as the Silmarillion) before writing The Hobbit, but The Hobbit originally wasn't really meant to be part of the mythology - it borrowed some names/places/ideas from it for color/background, but was basically a standalone adventure story, separate "canon". When he went to do LOTR as a sequel he decided to make it an official part of the mythology, and so retconned a bunch of it into The Hobbit and vice versa.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 30, 2012, 11:06:00 PM
You sound more pissed that the nerds interject their own interpretations rather than how the movies reflect the books description of Gandalf. Nerds are intolerable on any subject.

the movies do a pretty good job of not mixing other tolkien lore too much.

They would be sued by the Tolkien estate if they mixed in one word of other tolkein lore, lol

which is why Gandalf doesnt remember the name of the two blue wizard I believe.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 30, 2012, 11:51:33 PM
I loved The Hobbit. Yeah, it was boring, but I'm invoking fryinghigh's defense of TNG in that it was the good kind of boring. A kind of boring I could settle in and watch all day. Stretch it out to four movies, I don't care; bring it on.

this
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 31, 2012, 12:14:18 AM
The Hobbit is, like, hey you want some fantasy stuff? We've got some little people, a whole bunch of dwarves [like a million], sure yeah we got Elves too, a nasty old goblin kind with a puke-tastic neck waddle, and like a billion orcs or whatever. Maybe some castles and stuff, a magic ring that's pretty much OP to the max. Shut up if you don't like that, you're not my friend anymore.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Positive Touch on December 31, 2012, 01:19:31 AM
all the lotr haters i saw it with liked it way better than the old movies. nerds owned
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2012, 01:22:39 AM
aren't you the person who is owned because you associate with such people?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2012, 01:51:13 AM
I mean, that post is so bad.

all the star wars haters i saw it with liked it way better than the old movies. nerds owned

all the indiana jones haters i saw it with liked it way better than the old movies. nerds owned

goddamn. no matter what you change it to, it still reeks of idiocy and bad taste in the guise of "lol nerds".
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2012, 02:04:17 AM
:lol
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 31, 2012, 07:40:15 AM
Movie was missing the wonderful gay subtext of the original trilogy

SHARE 'DA LOAD
Title: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 07:58:31 AM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I won't stand idle while someone shittalks Positive Touch. Someone hold my purse as I take off my earrings.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 31, 2012, 08:35:03 AM
Movie was missing the wonderful gay subtext of the original trilogy

SHARE 'DA LOAD

I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CARRY YOUR BURDEN MR FRODO BUT I CAN CARRY* YOU

*suck filthily
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 31, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.

 

Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Positive Touch on December 31, 2012, 01:24:03 PM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I won't stand idle while someone shittalks Positive Touch. Someone hold my purse as I take off my earrings.

get him boo


aren't you the person who is owned because you associate with such people?

im talking about my family you nutsack
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 31, 2012, 01:56:46 PM
Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.

 



Paid $16 to watch it in HFR  :-\
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Positive Touch on December 31, 2012, 07:19:47 PM
IT WAS ANECDOTAL STORY THAT I MADE A JOKE OUT OF FUCK YOU GUYS JESUS
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 31, 2012, 07:25:17 PM
Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.

 



Paid $16 to watch it in HFR  :-\
Jesus. Is that your normal 3D price or did they charge extra for HFR?
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 31, 2012, 08:14:38 PM
Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.

 



Paid $16 to watch it in HFR  :-\
Jesus. Is that your normal 3D price or did they charge extra for HFR?

Charged extra for HFR, I believe normal 3D is $13, regular 2D being $11.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 31, 2012, 08:43:07 PM
Movie was missing the wonderful gay subtext of the original trilogy

SHARE 'DA LOAD

I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CARRY YOUR BURDEN MR FRODO BUT I CAN CARRY* YOU

*suck filthily

I've probably seen ROTK 12 times or so, and each time that scene almost makes me cry
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Mupepe on December 31, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Watching the Hobbit is like playing/paying for a Zynga game. You should feel shameful and not mention it in public.

 



Paid $16 to watch it in HFR  :-\
Jesus. Is that your normal 3D price or did they charge extra for HFR?

Charged extra for HFR, I believe normal 3D is $13, regular 2D being $11.
that blows. My local theaters aren't charging extra for hfr
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 12, 2013, 11:50:28 PM
There is a decent torrent up for anyone who can't go out in public, like me.

Movie was good.  The integration with LOTR was pretty good and makes me hopeful for the next movies.
Title: Re: The Hobbit: An Expected Cash-In
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 14, 2013, 05:36:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhLvwIUuLWg