THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: fistfulofmetal on December 30, 2012, 07:55:50 PM
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suggest others.
MASS EFFECT 3
- The game relies on systems called "galactic readiness" and "EMS" which dictates the state of the end of the game. The system is represented by a bar that fills up and a number. This system is not very well explained and is entirely abstract in terms of understanding how it will affect the nature of the end-game. You will get halfway through the game and fill the bar but still be able to add to the number. So which is important? What number do I need to get a good ending? It's poorly contextualized.
- The side-content that generally adds to the GR and EMS is almost entirely sup-par. It involves "overhearing" NPC characters talking about something they wish to acquire or reacquire. You then automatically get a sidequest popup and need to go and find the item. The actual gameplay involved is simply flying off to a solar system, scanning it and then choosing a planet that may have the item. Once you have it, you take it back to the person. This completely lacks any sort of meaningful gameplay and is comparatively much worse than the side content from past ME games.
- Scanning in general is a poor experience. When you scan a solar system it increases "Reaper awareness". Essentially when that is maxed, a little teenie enemy ship appears and you have to pac-man your way out of the solar system. If you get caught you are hit with a GAME OVER screen and it immediately dumps you back to the SAME system you just loaded into with NO consequences. It's a completely useless and pointless mechanic. This wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't critical to the game. You MUST scan to find items to increase your numbers. Worse yet, you're finding random context-less things like maybe a "Spec-ops team" or a "lost frigate" or whatever. These are items for your military strength but are just numbers and mean nothing. At no point is doing this "fun" and is just padding.
- The other side-content is called "N7 missions". These were in Mass Effect 2 and were mostly pretty OK little missions that had their own self-contained stories. In ME3? They are the multiplayer maps that you play singleplayer for a period of time.
- The entire first and last missions are awful. They are poor examples of scripted "roller-coaster" missions. The latter falls into the trope of "THROW EVERY ENEMY AT THE PLAYER!!".
- One of the key components to Mass Effect is making your own Shepard. You make his face. You make his backstory. You also decide what kind of person Shepard is. Is your Shepard a dick who doesnt care about anything but the mission? Or is he a saint that helps the weak. In Mass Effect 3 they attempt to force character traits to your Shepard. There's a sub-plot running through the game that attempts to humanize Shepard but not only does it fall completely on its face but as I said, it goes against what they've done in the past. If your Shepard has always been a space asshole he now is a nice guy in one scene then back to being a complete dick the next. It breaks the illusion that this is your character. Now for me? My Shepard was a saint but it still sucked because the actual content to the sub-plot is terrible.
- And the end. The end of the game is nonsensical. It tried to be artsy and bold but instead is just lunacy. The fact that two critical pieces of content (From Ashes, Leviathan) are locked away behind DLC is fucking disgusting. From what everyone says, they add needed context to the entire story.
- Overall the game feels like a rush-job. It feels like they took Mass Effect 2, stripped it down to it's core, then bolted on a number of poorly thought-out and half-baked systems. It's a disappointing experience that removes any interest I have in playing Mass Effect games.
- At launch you basically had to play the multiplayer to get your numbers high enough to get the best ending. I believe they fixed this later but I had to play the MP for about 3-5 hours. The MP is pretty OK but that's not the point.
I have some more to say.
- Mass Effect 3 could have been it, man. It could have been the stamp that justifies this generation. A sci-fi RPG trilogy that spanned the entire generation? It could have been it. I know that there are plenty of examples of a series that falls flat at the end in this and other mediums but it doesnt excuse it. Instead of being that stamp, it's just merely OK. It suffices as a video game and nothing more.
Because of the 3rd game, the series is completely tarnished. Does it make the previous two games bad? Of course not. But when people look back on the ME series this generation it's impossible for this fiasco to not be at the forefront in their mind.
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I nominate:
- The entire Wii library
- The entire Wii U library
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I nominate:
- The entire Wii library
- The entire Wii U library
- The entire Vita library
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Is Mass Effect 3 really so shit it deserves to be listed 5 times? :lol
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No but good luck convincing him of that
My most disappointing game was probably kingdoms of amalur- it SOUNDED like a huge RPG feast was instead crazy ass boring in all the worst ways
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Is Mass Effect 3 really so shit it deserves to be listed 5 times? :lol
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Ninja Gaiden 3 and Uncharted: Golden Abyss were the only shitty games I played this year. I want to say that NG3 was the worst, but it just feels wrong. The game might've been horribly designed, but at least some of the battles were somewhat satisfying to complete. Uncharted was just bland shooting tied together with a crappy story. Instantly forgettable.
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In terms of amount of money spent to game quality, RE6 beats everything else on that list soundly
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I'll redirect this post towards games that disappointed in some way or another.
Diablo 3. Fine game. I was expecting more for whatever reason.
Mass Effect 3. Very good game. Didn't deliver the knockout punch I wanted after ME 2.
SSX. A lot of good stuff in there and a lot of bad stuff. Likes courses with holes in them like swiss cheese. I have a feeling they'll do better next time after the feedback.
Deadlight. Played like 40% of it and couldn't be bothered to continue on. Great look. Great aesthetics. Mediocre game.
Assassin's creed 3: Good game but I put in the backlog once I realized it seemed very buggy and poorly designed in some areas. Will come back to it eventually but its disappointing I didn't feel the excitement to play through it in one shot like I hoped.
Resident Evil 6: Just played the demo. Didn't like it at all. The first numbered resident evil game I'll skip out on until its like $5.
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I know it was launched on December 20th but Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic could sit on this list easily
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I voted the Himu option. :japancry
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NG3 got the biggest "AUGGHHGHGH WHAT THE FUUUUUUCKKKKK" reaction from me.
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In terms of amount of money spent to game quality, RE6 beats everything else on that list soundly
Sorry, I'm going with Halo 4. RE6 was enjoyable to play.
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My most disappointing game was probably kingdoms of amalur- it SOUNDED like a huge RPG feast was instead crazy ass boring in all the worst ways
Ah, I forgot that that even came out this year. :lol
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i didnt play much of that game but whatever i added it.
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of those listed, uncharted vita. didn't like that one.
for real (of the games I played):
-Resident Evil Revelations
-Retro City Rampage
-Rage (2012's 2011 shit of the year)
really truly but I won't ever play the full game:
-Epic Mickey 3DS (demo)
. just to clarify, epic mickey the only bad one. the others are the worst I played this year, but they're alright.
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Vita game that know one cares about: the devil pikmin game. Forget what the title was.
Also the shitty sega tps game about robots that think they are humans
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Hmm games I played that I disliked?
Mass Effect 3-Well I'm not to hot on the series as a whole. 1 had a lot of potential, but crummy levels and bad gameplay brought it down. 2 was a bit better, but lacking in the potential of 1 and had a pretty lame story anyway. With three you have the removal of cool sidequests and actual conversing of your characters(even though most of them like Vega or lame). Then you have missions that are basically horde in single player. It's just kind of meh game that leaves me with no emotion.
Halo 4- Multiplayer that dosent really allow me to play what I want, a lame story thats about things I have no idea because I'm no Halo fantic, and a game thats just another Halo. It looks pretty and I mean its as good as any other Halo, but it's just another Halo. it should have been more.
Resident Evil 6-Probably the actual worse game of the year.
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Worst game I played this year was Eureka Seven: Attack the Legend (PS3). Forget the fanboy butthurtism of ME3 and RE6. Those are still playable games. Attack the Legend is the real shit.
This is beyond janky fun, this is an absolutely unplayable mess. The controls are groingrabbingly horrible and nonexistant. I have no clue what the fuck you're really supposed to do other than keep pushing buttons in the hopes that you defeat the enemy mechs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45MTxLCT_4
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"shitty sega tps game about robots that think they are humans"
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"shitty sega tps game about robots that think they are humans"
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Oh shiiiiii
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sorry, sorry!! i didnt even realize what game Huff was talking about originally. tho Binary Domain isnt great it isnt a candidate in SGOTY
I FIXED IT
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Can we add "Whatever game Andrex likes"?
It's only fair if we're shitting on himumuchansama.
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done.
kinda
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Needs moar andrex votes
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voted for himu
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Games that fucker himu liked this year:
- warriors orochi 3
- borderlands 2
- diablo 3
terrible games. awful.
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nintendoland
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HOW DO I GET GOOD TASTE IN GAMES
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Needs moar andrex votes
I voted for Himu, but would like to change my vote.
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What game (s) did Andrex play this year?
I win this poll.
ME.
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What game (s) did Andrex play this year?
I win this poll.
ME.
POKEYMANZ! With the "pokey" and the "mon" and the thing where the guy comes out of the thing and then he mumble mumble falls on him zod om zod om!
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I WIN THIS POLL FUCK OFF ANDREX
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What game (s) did Andrex play this year?
I win this poll.
ME.
:teehee
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The poll reset?! NOOOO I WAS WINNING.
Here are my credentials.
(http://i.imgur.com/yHtW7.jpg)
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The poll reset?! NOOOO I WAS WINNING.
Here are my credentials.
(http://i.imgur.com/yHtW7.jpg)
:teehee :teehee
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YOU BASTARD
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Games Andrex played for the first time this year:
- Super Mario 3D Land
- Monster Hunter Tri
- NSMBU
- NSMB2
- Tales of the Abyss 3D
- World of Goo
- Half-Life
- Mighty Switch Force
- Amnesia
- Mutant Mudds
- Pokeymans White 2
- Dementium 2
- Xenoblade
- Rock Band 3
- Zelda: Skyward Sword
- Sin & Punishment 2
- Wario Land 1
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Hey Andrex. When does Super Mario 3d Land get like, past a point where I don't feel like I'm in a coma? Does it get maybe to a point where I feel like I just woke up and have bed hair and crust in my eyes? Because I'm dozing, dozing, gone here and I'm on world 7 or some stupid shit. I got to World 6 in a day but stopped playing because I figured beating a game in a day and paying 40 dollars makes it value worth shit fuck all, but what do I know?
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You basically need to beat world 8
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So it's good in the post-game?
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Worst game I played this year was Eureka Seven: Attack the Legend (PS3). Forget the fanboy butthurtism of ME3 and RE6. Those are still playable games. Attack the Legend is the real shit.
This is beyond janky fun, this is an absolutely unplayable mess. The controls are groingrabbingly horrible and nonexistant. I have no clue what the fuck you're really supposed to do other than keep pushing buttons in the hopes that you defeat the enemy mechs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45MTxLCT_4
is it like the macross games with all the pilots being playable?
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Only Macross games i"ve played are Robotech Battlecry (owns) and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPwr_cq7Dn0
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So it's good in the post-game?
I just got to the post-game myself, but it seems like the game was split in two, and the harder half was locked away in the post game.
But yeah, the normal 8 worlds are coma-levels, I was pretty surprised. They're still fun tho.
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"Comas are fun" -Andrex
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That's what the guys in .hack//Sign taught me.
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That's what the guys in .hack//Sign taught me.
Surprised I got through this and didn't end up being (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/dead.png)
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:lol
It's a pretty slow anime. You kinda have to be a certain age to have that much patience.
Still one of my favorites though. :heart
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I was 16 when it aired in japan and I dled the fansubs. I was the perfect age for .hack. Great idea, shit execution.
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Wrong Himu-chan, the perfect age for enjoying shitty anime is 32, uguu~! Only then will you have reached maximum manchildness.
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I was 16 when it aired in japan and I dled the fansubs. I was the perfect age for .hack. Great idea, shit execution.
Sign is padded out way too much but I still think it's a solid anime, mostly cause it's pretty self contained. Certainly better than all the other .hack animes but that isn't saying much.
I need to rewatch it though, been too long.
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Worst game I played this year was Eureka Seven: Attack the Legend (PS3). Forget the fanboy butthurtism of ME3 and RE6. Those are still playable games. Attack the Legend is the real shit.
This is beyond janky fun, this is an absolutely unplayable mess. The controls are groingrabbingly horrible and nonexistant. I have no clue what the fuck you're really supposed to do other than keep pushing buttons in the hopes that you defeat the enemy mechs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45MTxLCT_4
is it like the macross games with all the pilots being playable?
It's nothing like the Macross PSP/PS3 games. Those are actually fun. This is a few random levels from Eureka Seven, the movie, and Eureka Seven AO. Absolutely terrible.
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Sorry guyz binary domain was shit
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I was 16 when it aired in japan and I dled the fansubs. I was the perfect age for .hack. Great idea, shit execution.
They had BT in 2001?
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-Andrex
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I was 16 when it aired in japan and I dled the fansubs. I was the perfect age for .hack. Great idea, shit execution.
They had BT in 2001?
rofl
Torrent didn't pick up until 2002. By 2003, it was in full swing. Mostly due to shows like Naruto. Before BT we'd dl anime from irc and ftp. irc especially. That's what a lot of old fansubs would be like GET YOUR FANSUBS AT #shinen on irc.syirc.com and shit during the intro. So you'd go into the mirc channel, get in queue, use dir tags, and shit.
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I remember being introduced to BT in 2003 and it was the most basic client ever. All I could think of was "OMG you can download something while you're away from your computer?!?! :o" Lols.
Nothing's really on YouTube anymore except abandime but Google's actually still good at finding sites.
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I dunno about bt being "basic". Around release, it was seen as very controversial. A lot of people didn't understand nor like the seed system. Also, bittorrent wasn't that great with slower connections. I was lucky to get 100 kb/s on most torrents I dled back in the day. Took an hour to dl a Naruto ep. Bittorrent had an uphill battle for taking over irc as the go to pirating client for a while when Kazaa and Morpheus were getting butt raped by the fed. It took a lot of people to finally buy into it and I don't think torrents became like, de facto standard until like 2005-2006. I still know a lot of people who don't know what torrenting is, but they sure as fuck knew morpheus or kazaa.
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I know someone who was recently using Ares. They were like "remember Morpheus? This is just like it!" They had found it after LimeWire got shut down.
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My vote is shared between Diablo III and Torchlight 2.
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Mass Effect 3 is probably the only game in history that had people gushing about how awesome it is until the stupid choice in the end. Now its suddenly bad? I hope you guys remember that the ending was perfect until that stupid final choice. Which in the end doesn't matter.
The hyperbolic reaction to Mass Effect 3 is bullshit. It's far from perfect (same deal with 1 and 2), but it's still a damn fine game with some really solid, series-defining moments and the most refined mechanics of the three. There's no question Mass Effect and BioWare are getting EA'd pretty badly, but I don't think it makes much sense to fling the criticism directly at the games.
I have the same feelings about Resident Evil 6. Certainly a flawed game, but I haven't played a third-person shooter that kept me at least somewhat entertained for nearly 30 hours on the first playthrough, and this one did. It's blasphemous that Metal Gear Solid 4 gets accolades in the press and is excused for being a big clunky piece of shit, when Resident Evil 6 is big and clunky in many of the same ways but actually manages to have rewarding gameplay for most of its length.
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RE6 controls and plays like shit and if the demo is any indication, is a total C game.
Mass Effect 3 plays similarly to past ME games, but apparently the ending is atrocious, but anyone who thought Bioware could pull off a good ending was an idiot to begin with.
These comparisons don't work because their situations are completely different.
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I dunno about bt being "basic". Around release, it was seen as very controversial. A lot of people didn't understand nor like the seed system. Also, bittorrent wasn't that great with slower connections. I was lucky to get 100 kb/s on most torrents I dled back in the day. Took an hour to dl a Naruto ep. Bittorrent had an uphill battle for taking over irc as the go to pirating client for a while when Kazaa and Morpheus were getting butt raped by the fed. It took a lot of people to finally buy into it and I don't think torrents became like, de facto standard until like 2005-2006. I still know a lot of people who don't know what torrenting is, but they sure as fuck knew morpheus or kazaa.
Well I meant the UI for the Windows client. I think it was something like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/yMqt2.jpg)
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I um, remember it not looking like that in 2003. It didn't look too far off from how modern torrent programs look.
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Shit game of 2012 is the one where I pretend to give a shit about any of you!
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Seriously though, for the second year in a row, no shit games have been purchased/played per se. :-[
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Best shit game of the year:
Jet Set Radio HD.
4/10 from Gamespot. :rock
:bow SHIT GAMES :bow2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbLIALSWv_8
Me PLAYING shit games :rock
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Worst game I played this year was Eureka Seven: Attack the Legend (PS3). Forget the fanboy butthurtism of ME3 and RE6. Those are still playable games. Attack the Legend is the real shit.
This is beyond janky fun, this is an absolutely unplayable mess. The controls are groingrabbingly horrible and nonexistant. I have no clue what the fuck you're really supposed to do other than keep pushing buttons in the hopes that you defeat the enemy mechs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45MTxLCT_4
Bandai/Banpresto stuff is universally crap, isn't it? Is this one of those?
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Borys-kun. :heart
I um, remember it not looking like that in 2003. It didn't look too far off from how modern torrent programs look.
I clearly remember the official client looking like that, might have been a different iconset for the buttons though. It was with the old blue/purple icon which I still think is awesome.
I think by the time I actually wanted to use BT, uTorrent had hit the scene and was still king of the hill (and remained so until like, two years ago. But I use Transmission now anyways because Linux rulez.)
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uTorrent had hit the scene and was still king of the hill (and remained so until like, two years ago. But I use Transmission now anyways because Linux rulez.)
qbittorrent should be available in the repositories
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Mass Effect 3 is probably the only game in history that had people gushing about how awesome it is until the stupid choice in the end. Now its suddenly bad? I hope you guys remember that the ending was perfect until that stupid final choice. Which in the end doesn't matter.
Well MGS4 is another game that received high praise until shortly after it came out and now gets shitted on.
And I don't really care what other people were saying about ME3. I went back and re-read my impressions of the game during and shortly after it came out. My opinion is mostly the same though it was soured by the ending and soured even more over time due to retrospect. I think you're wrong in saying the end doesnt matter as well.
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Out of all the big-budget releases I played this year, Resident Evil 6 was the worst. Still haven't finished Mass Effect 3 and didn't even think of trying Ninja Gaiden 3. I'm sure the latter would be my choice if I played it.
The "over-hyped import-only shit game of the year" award goes to Capcom's EX Troopers- it's just a tps, but the game is far too easy (to the point of boredom) and the level design is awful. I played it for about two hours and shelved it. Need to sell it off.
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Keeping it vauge, without spoiling it too much (ME games are still in my backlog), what was so bad about ME3? I think I might have vaguely heard of some kind of Space Magic copout but don't really know
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The end of ME3 was unsatisfying and people were simply expecting something more interesting after having invested a lot of time into three games. There are unaddressed plot holes and untied ends.
Even though they improved the core combat they removed most of my favorite characters and replaced them with a weaker new cast. Another issue I have with it is that each new game in the series is less of an RPG and more of a bro shooter.
They're still all good games and worth playing, but I would have preferred if the series had moved in a different direction.
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Keeping it vauge, without spoiling it too much (ME games are still in my backlog), what was so bad about ME3? I think I might have vaguely heard of some kind of Space Magic copout but don't really know
- The game relies on systems called "galactic readiness" and "EMS" which dictates the state of the end of the game. The system is represented by a bar that fills up and a number. This system is not very well explained and is entirely abstract in terms of understanding how it will affect the nature of the end-game. You will get halfway through the game and fill the bar but still be able to add to the number. So which is important? What number do I need to get a good ending? It's poorly contextualized.
- The side-content that generally adds to the GR and EMS is almost entirely sup-par. It involves "overhearing" NPC characters talking about something they wish to acquire or reacquire. You then automatically get a sidequest popup and need to go and find the item. The actual gameplay involved is simply flying off to a solar system, scanning it and then choosing a planet that may have the item. Once you have it, you take it back to the person. This completely lacks any sort of meaningful gameplay and is comparatively much worse than the side content from past ME games.
- Scanning in general is a poor experience. When you scan a solar system it increases "Reaper awareness". Essentially when that is maxed, a little teenie enemy ship appears and you have to pac-man your way out of the solar system. If you get caught you are hit with a GAME OVER screen and it immediately dumps you back to the SAME system you just loaded into with NO consequences. It's a completely useless and pointless mechanic. This wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't critical to the game. You MUST scan to find items to increase your numbers. Worse yet, you're finding random context-less things like maybe a "Spec-ops team" or a "lost frigate" or whatever. These are items for your military strength but are just numbers and mean nothing. At no point is doing this "fun" and is just padding.
- The other side-content is called "N7 missions". These were in Mass Effect 2 and were mostly pretty OK little missions that had their own self-contained stories. In ME3? They are the multiplayer maps that you play singleplayer for a period of time.
- The entire first and last missions are awful. They are poor examples of scripted "roller-coaster" missions. The latter falls into the trope of "THROW EVERY ENEMY AT THE PLAYER!!".
- One of the key components to Mass Effect is making your own Shepard. You make his face. You make his backstory. You also decide what kind of person Shepard is. Is your Shepard a dick who doesnt care about anything but the mission? Or is he a saint that helps the weak. In Mass Effect 3 they attempt to force character traits to your Shepard. There's a sub-plot running through the game that attempts to humanize Shepard but not only does it fall completely on its face but as I said, it goes against what they've done in the past. If your Shepard has always been a space asshole he now is a nice guy in one scene then back to being a complete dick the next. It breaks the illusion that this is your character. Now for me? My Shepard was a saint but it still sucked because the actual content to the sub-plot is terrible.
- And the end. The end of the game is nonsensical. It tried to be artsy and bold but instead is just lunacy. The fact that two critical pieces of content (From Ashes, Leviathan) are locked away behind DLC is fucking disgusting. From what everyone says, they add needed context to the entire story.
- Overall the game feels like a rush-job. It feels like they took Mass Effect 2, stripped it down to it's core, then bolted on a number of poorly thought-out and half-baked systems. It's a disappointing experience that removes any interest I have in playing Mass Effect games.
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Keeping it vauge, without spoiling it too much (ME games are still in my backlog), what was so bad about ME3? I think I might have vaguely heard of some kind of Space Magic copout but don't really know
- The game relies on systems called "galactic readiness" and "EMS" which dictates the state of the end of the game. The system is represented by a bar that fills up and a number. This system is not very well explained and is entirely abstract in terms of understanding how it will affect the nature of the end-game. You will get halfway through the game and fill the bar but still be able to add to the number. So which is important? What number do I need to get a good ending? It's poorly contextualized.
Didn't they try to claim that the companion stuff like the iOS and Datapad added to this "readiness", but it turned out you needed to grind them to ridiculous levels to have it mean anything?
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I thought one of the patches released over the summer made the galactic readiness level much lower?
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Didn't they try to claim that the companion stuff like the iOS and Datapad added to this "readiness", but it turned out you needed to grind them to ridiculous levels to have it mean anything?
Not sure. But I did forget something
- At launch you basically had to play the multiplayer to get your numbers high enough to get the best ending. I believe they fixed this later but I had to play the MP for about 3-5 hours. The MP is pretty OK but that's not the point.
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Diablo 3, loot game where youre better off grinding gold to buy loot in online shop. Designing this game around the AH is one of the worst ideas of the decade so far.
Im very happy I canceled my CE and got the normal version instead.
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My vote is shared between Diablo III and Torchlight 2.
Having played TL 1 i had the right expectations for TL2.
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Wait, so T2 didn't turn out to be good?
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T2 is ok. But it's so devoid of challenge or strategy that most people stopped playing within days
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I have some more to say.
- Mass Effect 3 could have been it, man. It could have been the stamp that justifies this generation. A sci-fi RPG trilogy that spanned the entire generation? It could have been it. I know that there are plenty of examples of a series that falls flat at the end in this and other mediums but it doesnt excuse it. Instead of being that stamp, it's just merely OK. It suffices as a video game and nothing more.
Because of the 3rd game, the series is completely tarnished. Does it make the previous two games bad? Of course not. But when people look back on the ME series this generation it's impossible for this fiasco to not be at the forefront in their mind.
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I voted for Andrex. It was a shit game, I'm glad I just gamefly'd it.
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ME3 is a decent game, ME1 was a much worse game mechanically speaking. It has some issues, but it did some really interesting things and did most things well. If there's anything TRULY shitty about ME3, its Bioware bending over for ending whiners and releasing that patch. Also, the game had two pieces of DLC that probably SHOULDA been part of the main game.
People can not like the game but shittiest for the year? Are you REALLY playing videogames if you cant find something worse? You can list out the stuff you don't like about the game but I can do that with ANY game. All I see in your stuff is a lot of feels and hyperbolic language and really that's TOTALLY ok- but that makes it YOUR biggest disappointment- not shittiest game. I didn't LOVE ME3, I liked it- I thought it did a lot of neat things- I think yeah it fell on its face a fair share- but god damn if I played plenty of games that were way worse this year but got a pass because people left their feels at home.
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Xcom was the shittiest game of the year- have fun
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- Spec Ops: The Line. If it didn't have a DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeep FEEEEeeels MAAAAAAAaaaaaaaann storyline, everyone creaming their shorts over it would recognize it for what it really is, a bland shooter full of jank.
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I want to change my vote from andrex to ME3
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I want to change my vote from andrex to ME3
I got you.
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I want to change my vote from andrex to ME3
I got you.
HEY. Some of us had the sense not to play ME3, don't change EVERYBODY's vote to that. We all had to suffer Andrex by way of comparison.
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whoops. i reset the poll again.
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i also added himu back again.
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Voted for Andrex.
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I'll keep voting for Andrex, because it's basically the same as saying "Nintendo, because Nintendo and ninthings"
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This was bittorrent back in 2003:
(http://i.imgur.com/DHLk1.png)
as basic as it gets.
suprnova :rock
I think by now most people I know know what bittorrent is. but it wasn't until piratebay blew up. and those that do know still don't understand the seeding system.
"Aw man, i got banned on what.cd!"
"Oh yeah, like i told you 10 times before i gave you the ref, you have to seed and you should've waited for a free leech event before downloading anything there, so you could uplo--"
"--magic, got it."
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This was bittorrent back in 2003:
(http://i.imgur.com/DHLk1.png)
suprnova :rock
this is not relevant to the thread. reported.
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games worthy of torrenting
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I want to change my vote from andrex to ME3
I got you.
:heart
I want to change my vote from andrex to ME3
I got you.
HEY. Some of us had the sense not to play ME3, don't change EVERYBODY's vote to that. We all had to suffer Andrex by way of comparison.
I would have just stuck with Andrex but there are feels in this thread and I'll rather stick a vote where it would cause most irritation
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I haven played ME3 yet, how is it bad compared to 2, beside the ending?
ME1 had much better music then 2 btw.
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I haven played ME3 yet, how is it bad compared to 2, beside the ending?
ME1 had much better music then 2 btw.
I'll post this on every page
- The game relies on systems called "galactic readiness" and "EMS" which dictates the state of the end of the game. The system is represented by a bar that fills up and a number. This system is not very well explained and is entirely abstract in terms of understanding how it will affect the nature of the end-game. You will get halfway through the game and fill the bar but still be able to add to the number. So which is important? What number do I need to get a good ending? It's poorly contextualized.
- The side-content that generally adds to the GR and EMS is almost entirely sup-par. It involves "overhearing" NPC characters talking about something they wish to acquire or reacquire. You then automatically get a sidequest popup and need to go and find the item. The actual gameplay involved is simply flying off to a solar system, scanning it and then choosing a planet that may have the item. Once you have it, you take it back to the person. This completely lacks any sort of meaningful gameplay and is comparatively much worse than the side content from past ME games.
- Scanning in general is a poor experience. When you scan a solar system it increases "Reaper awareness". Essentially when that is maxed, a little teenie enemy ship appears and you have to pac-man your way out of the solar system. If you get caught you are hit with a GAME OVER screen and it immediately dumps you back to the SAME system you just loaded into with NO consequences. It's a completely useless and pointless mechanic. This wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't critical to the game. You MUST scan to find items to increase your numbers. Worse yet, you're finding random context-less things like maybe a "Spec-ops team" or a "lost frigate" or whatever. These are items for your military strength but are just numbers and mean nothing. At no point is doing this "fun" and is just padding.
- The other side-content is called "N7 missions". These were in Mass Effect 2 and were mostly pretty OK little missions that had their own self-contained stories. In ME3? They are the multiplayer maps that you play singleplayer for a period of time.
- The entire first and last missions are awful. They are poor examples of scripted "roller-coaster" missions. The latter falls into the trope of "THROW EVERY ENEMY AT THE PLAYER!!".
- One of the key components to Mass Effect is making your own Shepard. You make his face. You make his backstory. You also decide what kind of person Shepard is. Is your Shepard a dick who doesnt care about anything but the mission? Or is he a saint that helps the weak. In Mass Effect 3 they attempt to force character traits to your Shepard. There's a sub-plot running through the game that attempts to humanize Shepard but not only does it fall completely on its face but as I said, it goes against what they've done in the past. If your Shepard has always been a space asshole he now is a nice guy in one scene then back to being a complete dick the next. It breaks the illusion that this is your character. Now for me? My Shepard was a saint but it still sucked because the actual content to the sub-plot is terrible.
- And the end. The end of the game is nonsensical. It tried to be artsy and bold but instead is just lunacy. The fact that two critical pieces of content (From Ashes, Leviathan) are locked away behind DLC is fucking disgusting. From what everyone says, they add needed context to the entire story.
- Overall the game feels like a rush-job. It feels like they took Mass Effect 2, stripped it down to it's core, then bolted on a number of poorly thought-out and half-baked systems. It's a disappointing experience that removes any interest I have in playing Mass Effect games.
- At launch you basically had to play the multiplayer to get your numbers high enough to get the best ending. I believe they fixed this later but I had to play the MP for about 3-5 hours. The MP is pretty OK but that's not the point.
I have some more to say.
- Mass Effect 3 could have been it, man. It could have been the stamp that justifies this generation. A sci-fi RPG trilogy that spanned the entire generation? It could have been it. I know that there are plenty of examples of a series that falls flat at the end in this and other mediums but it doesnt excuse it. Instead of being that stamp, it's just merely OK. It suffices as a video game and nothing more.
Because of the 3rd game, the series is completely tarnished. Does it make the previous two games bad? Of course not. But when people look back on the ME series this generation it's impossible for this fiasco to not be at the forefront in their mind.
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Thanks for the write up, fistful. I trust your judgement implicitly.
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and if you do, put that in as a voting option
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It sounds bad but not Dragon Age 2 bad.
I wonder how the crap trifecta of DA2, ME3 and TOR ( which i enjoyed for 20 hours as f2p but is a disaster none the less) will affect future Bioware sales.
Basicly they dont have any untarnished IP now.
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Diablo 3 should be added.
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is ME3 really tarnished? seems like game sites and probably dudebros loved Gears Of Effect
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i wonder how many poll options i can add.
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Thats a fickle audience to please. Bioware was doing good making million selling rpgs to a crowd that didnt have much to choose from. A good crowd to cater too. They are alienating their core customer.
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Reset it so I can vote diablo!
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It sounds bad but not Dragon Age 2 bad.
That's true. ME3 was actually pretty good overall, but DA2 was refried poop from the very beginning.
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Wreck-it Ralph
I know it's just a licensed movie game, but considering the subject matter and the people behind it versus the actual quality of the game, it somehow shatters those low expectations.
Even calling it a 'flash game' is giving it too much credit. Yet, they charged 30-50 dollars for it.
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anyone who thinks me3 is worse than me1 is a damn fool. fistful is putting himself in the same category as nerds that love ueda games - they just want their games to have some FEELS, man. if you liked me2 because it was a decent tps with choose-your-own adventure space shit, then you will most likely enjoy me3. if you want a SCI-FI EPIC that you can point to and say "LOOK MA, I DIDNT WASTE MY LIFE BECAUSE THIS GAME IS ART AND BETTER THAN A PRIMETIME-TV-WATCHING MORON LIKE YOU COULD EVER COMPREHEND" then yes you will be disappointed. it's definitely not perfect, but it's really damn far from a bad game.
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I liked ME2 because it was a cool as shit sci-fi romp going to tons of places, with tons of awesome characters, and told a cool as shit story.
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I can see why people were pissed. If you were in it for the story, a bad ending can really kill the works. If you were in it for the choices, it kind of ignored your choices and railroaded you into the ending it wanted. If you were in it for the gameplay, well then, you were fine, I suppose.
But in ME, the choices are a huge part of the gameplay.
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typical 16 bit jrpg
Do you want to take this quest?
[]Yes
[-x-]No
Are you sure, c'mon man you make some cash!
[]Yes
[-x-] No
Do it for the kids they need you to do this horrible fetch quest or they will DIE
[]Yes
[-x-]No
Are you sure, c'mon man you make some cash!
[]Yes
[-x-]No
Do it for the kids they need you to do this horrible fetch quest or they will DIE
[]Yes
[-x-]No
Are you sure, c'mon man you make some cash!
[]Yes
[-x-]No
Do it for the kids they need you to do this horrible fetch quest or they will DIE
[-x-]Fuck you NPC, fuck off die, yes i'll do it, just shut up
[]No
You won't regret making this choice to help the kids stranger!
and this still > ME3
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
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::)
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anyone who thinks me3 is worse than me1 is a damn fool. fistful is putting himself in the same category as nerds that love ueda games - they just want their games to have some FEELS, man. if you liked me2 because it was a decent tps with choose-your-own adventure space shit, then you will most likely enjoy me3. if you want a SCI-FI EPIC that you can point to and say "LOOK MA, I DIDNT WASTE MY LIFE BECAUSE THIS GAME IS ART AND BETTER THAN A PRIMETIME-TV-WATCHING MORON LIKE YOU COULD EVER COMPREHEND" then yes you will be disappointed. it's definitely not perfect, but it's really damn far from a bad game.
ME1 had a better story, quests, music, characters, and hub areas.
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hehe
would like to hit this switch that you are absolutely required to hit in order to progress the game?
[Yes]
[nah, i'm done playing this game, thx]
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anyone who thinks me3 is worse than me1 is a damn fool. fistful is putting himself in the same category as nerds that love ueda games - they just want their games to have some FEELS, man. if you liked me2 because it was a decent tps with choose-your-own adventure space shit, then you will most likely enjoy me3. if you want a SCI-FI EPIC that you can point to and say "LOOK MA, I DIDNT WASTE MY LIFE BECAUSE THIS GAME IS ART AND BETTER THAN A PRIMETIME-TV-WATCHING MORON LIKE YOU COULD EVER COMPREHEND" then yes you will be disappointed. it's definitely not perfect, but it's really damn far from a bad game.
ME1 had a better story, quests, music, characters, and hub areas.
i wish you weren't a liar
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I don't think ME3 is necessarily a bad game. It's competent and does what it needs to do. But that's it. It exists and functions. That doesn't mean it deserves praise.
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i should remind everyone that one of fistful's favorite games of this gen is mgs4
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untrue.
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anyone who thinks me3 is worse than me1 is a damn fool. fistful is putting himself in the same category as nerds that love ueda games - they just want their games to have some FEELS, man. if you liked me2 because it was a decent tps with choose-your-own adventure space shit, then you will most likely enjoy me3. if you want a SCI-FI EPIC that you can point to and say "LOOK MA, I DIDNT WASTE MY LIFE BECAUSE THIS GAME IS ART AND BETTER THAN A PRIMETIME-TV-WATCHING MORON LIKE YOU COULD EVER COMPREHEND" then yes you will be disappointed. it's definitely not perfect, but it's really damn far from a bad game.
ME1 had a better story, quests, music, characters, and hub areas.
i wish you weren't a liar
Don't hate, man, I can't help it that I have a highly developed taste gland.
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:bow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWW-hJbzhSU :bow2
:bow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOg-nLWe71w :bow2
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good god look at those graphics. remember when people thought me1 looked great in 2007? fuck. looks like an xbox game.
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good god look at those graphics. remember when people thought me1 looked great in 2007? fuck. looks like an xbox game.
Games look better now than they did 5 years ago?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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good god look at those graphics. remember when people thought me1 looked great in 2007? fuck. looks like an xbox game.
Games look better now than they did 5 years ago?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
You forget some people will get the WiiU version
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:lol
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Mass Effect 3 = 4+1 = 5
Andrex = 6+1 = 7
(+1 is wii u library)
it's anybody's race!
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Diablo 3 should be added.
You aren't helping out the stereotype of Polish people as functional distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
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Yeah, BORESQUAD did a good job helping each other out with that game and despite the flaws we all mostly enjoyed the fuck out of it.
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There are certainly fair criticisms of the game to be made; however 1-60 was quite enjoyable for the most part and always has been. Inferno sucked for a good long while, but it's been really fun for about 3 months now. What it boils down to is that gamers are irrational twatwaffles about their sacred cows; "DIABLO 2 MEANT THIS TO ME SO IF DIABLO 3 DOESN'T MEAN THIS TO ME, IT SUCKS AND IS A FAILURE! WAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAH CHANGE MY DIAPER!" It's basically the whole NMA crowd for the Fallout franchise, but instead of being safely confined to one backwater, shitty forum on the internets, the D3/blizzard haters are free roaming lepers dropping pieces of their odious selves all over the fucking internets. stfu plz.
Also, trying to compare TL2 to D3 is really fucking insulting. What a shit game that ended up being.
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Why are you guys shocked about TL2? TL1 sucked.
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Gamer over-reactions to ME3 and D3 is the one of the worst parts about gaming this year. Bioware changing the ending to appease crybabies is what I REALLY hated about gaming this year.
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They didn't really change the ending, though, which is the funny part. Still the same 3 colors, the same results...
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Worst game I played this year was Eureka Seven: Attack the Legend (PS3). Forget the fanboy butthurtism of ME3 and RE6. Those are still playable games. Attack the Legend is the real shit.
This is beyond janky fun, this is an absolutely unplayable mess. The controls are groingrabbingly horrible and nonexistant. I have no clue what the fuck you're really supposed to do other than keep pushing buttons in the hopes that you defeat the enemy mechs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45MTxLCT_4
Bandai/Banpresto stuff is universally crap, isn't it? Is this one of those?
It's worse than normal. The game is pretty pointless and you have zero real input on what you're doing. It's literally smash some buttons and hope you win.
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There are certainly fair criticisms of the game to be made; however 1-60 was quite enjoyable for the most part and always has been. Inferno sucked for a good long while, but it's been really fun for about 3 months now. What it boils down to is that gamers are irrational twatwaffles about their sacred cows; "DIABLO 2 MEANT THIS TO ME SO IF DIABLO 3 DOESN'T MEAN THIS TO ME, IT SUCKS AND IS A FAILURE! WAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAH CHANGE MY DIAPER!" It's basically the whole NMA crowd for the Fallout franchise, but instead of being safely confined to one backwater, shitty forum on the internets, the D3/blizzard haters are free roaming lepers dropping pieces of their odious selves all over the fucking internets. stfu plz.
Also, trying to compare TL2 to D3 is really fucking insulting. What a shit game that ended up being.
Tldr
Diablo 1 and 2 meant a lot to me mayne.
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Why are you guys shocked about TL2? TL1 sucked.
I dont think anyone here is shocked about tl2, as much as diablo is my disappointment of the decade its 10 years ahead of tl2.
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They didn't really change the ending, though, which is the funny part. Still the same 3 colors, the same results...
Yeah, they basically added a couple of minutes of extra scenes to explain away some of the most blatant plot holes and do the barest minimum to flesh out the endings, but it's still exactly the same.
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Whoever voted for Journey is a homo.
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Whoever voted for Journey is a homo.
:andrex
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I voted Himu, again.
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well shit, who would be dumb enough to srsly vote journey then
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I have some more to say.
- Mass Effect 3 could have been it, man. It could have been the stamp that justifies this generation. A sci-fi RPG trilogy that spanned the entire generation? It could have been it. I know that there are plenty of examples of a series that falls flat at the end in this and other mediums but it doesnt excuse it. Instead of being that stamp, it's just merely OK. It suffices as a video game and nothing more.
Because of the 3rd game, the series is completely tarnished. Does it make the previous two games bad? Of course not. But when people look back on the ME series this generation it's impossible for this fiasco to not be at the forefront in their mind.
Yeah, it's not a bad game per se, but it's hard not to look at it as a bit of a dissapointment.
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Worst game I played this year was Eureka Seven: Attack the Legend (PS3). Forget the fanboy butthurtism of ME3 and RE6. Those are still playable games. Attack the Legend is the real shit.
This is beyond janky fun, this is an absolutely unplayable mess. The controls are groingrabbingly horrible and nonexistant. I have no clue what the fuck you're really supposed to do other than keep pushing buttons in the hopes that you defeat the enemy mechs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45MTxLCT_4
is it like the macross games with all the pilots being playable?
It's nothing like the Macross PSP/PS3 games. Those are actually fun. This is a few random levels from Eureka Seven, the movie, and Eureka Seven AO. Absolutely terrible.
ok then let me modify the question. can i drop a steaming deuce all over hollands bitch ass in the sky?
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Whoever voted for Journey is a homo.
i know. thread title specifies shit game
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Yeah, there are a lot of aching hindquarters about Mass Effect 3 and Diablo 3 across the internet.
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Like I said, I don't mind LEGIT criticism of any game. I think people are just idiots about D3 criticism... for instance, Lager HASN'T EVEN PLAYED D2 LOD yet somehow is upset that D3 isn't it's equal. That just screams fucktard to me, and I'm not the kind of guy who doesn't point that sort of shit out. It's part of my charm.
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I've heard a ton of explanations for why ME3 is bad but none about Diablo 3.
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I've heard a ton of explanations for why ME3 is bad but none about Diablo 3.
It's not bad. Just a huge step back for people who played the previous game. I enjoyed my time clickan and clickan my playthrough.
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Like I said, I don't mind LEGIT criticism of any game. I think people are just idiots about D3 criticism... for instance, Lager HASN'T EVEN PLAYED D2 LOD yet somehow is upset that D3 isn't it's equal. That just screams fucktard to me, and I'm not the kind of guy who doesn't point that sort of shit out. It's part of my charm.
Sounds to me like you invested a lot of time in this game and need to justify to yourself why its soooo good. 300 hours? Its all cool with me.
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mass effect 3 by a long kilometer
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I can see why people were pissed. If you were in it for the story, a bad ending can really kill the works. If you were in it for the choices, it kind of ignored your choices and railroaded you into the ending it wanted. If you were in it for the gameplay, well then, you were fine, I suppose.
I know a few people who have played only multiplayer, think it's awesome, and are basically uninterested in the singleplayer stuff.
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I've heard a ton of explanations for why ME3 is bad but none about Diablo 3.
I think it's cause:
--game balance at launch (all of it...difficulties, drops, etc.)
--not as full featured as LoD, thus it didn't feel like much of a step up. AH wasn't ready, PVP (still?) not ready
lots of things needed fixing/balancing, it was in development forever so people expected near perfection right away and kinda forgot that blizzard games are always a work in progress from launch.
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I can see why people were pissed. If you were in it for the story, a bad ending can really kill the works. If you were in it for the choices, it kind of ignored your choices and railroaded you into the ending it wanted. If you were in it for the gameplay, well then, you were fine, I suppose.
I know a few people who have played only multiplayer, think it's awesome, and are basically uninterested in the singleplayer stuff.
I amazed to find out there are people out there who only played the multi in Me. 2013 is off to an interesting start!
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Like I said, I don't mind LEGIT criticism of any game. I think people are just idiots about D3 criticism... for instance, Lager HASN'T EVEN PLAYED D2 LOD yet somehow is upset that D3 isn't it's equal. That just screams fucktard to me, and I'm not the kind of guy who doesn't point that sort of shit out. It's part of my charm.
LOD is when D2 became a GOOD game so yeah
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Worst game I played this year was Eureka Seven: Attack the Legend (PS3). Forget the fanboy butthurtism of ME3 and RE6. Those are still playable games. Attack the Legend is the real shit.
This is beyond janky fun, this is an absolutely unplayable mess. The controls are groingrabbingly horrible and nonexistant. I have no clue what the fuck you're really supposed to do other than keep pushing buttons in the hopes that you defeat the enemy mechs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45MTxLCT_4
is it like the macross games with all the pilots being playable?
It's nothing like the Macross PSP/PS3 games. Those are actually fun. This is a few random levels from Eureka Seven, the movie, and Eureka Seven AO. Absolutely terrible.
ok then let me modify the question. can i drop a steaming deuce all over hollands bitch ass in the sky?
You can play as Holland, that's it.
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Worst game I played this year was Eureka Seven: Attack the Legend (PS3). Forget the fanboy butthurtism of ME3 and RE6. Those are still playable games. Attack the Legend is the real shit.
This is beyond janky fun, this is an absolutely unplayable mess. The controls are groingrabbingly horrible and nonexistant. I have no clue what the fuck you're really supposed to do other than keep pushing buttons in the hopes that you defeat the enemy mechs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45MTxLCT_4
is it like the macross games with all the pilots being playable?
It's nothing like the Macross PSP/PS3 games. Those are actually fun. This is a few random levels from Eureka Seven, the movie, and Eureka Seven AO. Absolutely terrible.
ok then let me modify the question. can i drop a steaming deuce all over hollands bitch ass in the sky?
You can play as Holland, that's it.
Yup. Garbage.
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Either of you play the E7 PS2 games- pretty bad too?
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Either of you play the E7 PS2 games- pretty bad too?
Is there an English release?
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Skipped right the fuck over Mass Effect 3, RE6, Ass Creed 3 and the Wii U.
I guess Diablo 3 was sort of shitty, but that was expected.
I suppose I'll stick with the Vita. Gravity Rush can smd and I'll get around to (replaying) Persona 4 when it's cheaper.
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Honestly I didn't have the highest expectations going in of ME3... I started playing it a few days after it was released and news of the horrible ending made its way across the internets, and I was expecting a streamlined experience after playing ME2, so I was already prepared. And actually found a few things worth liking. The whole genophage subplot wrap-up was great, for instance. I think I preferred 3 to 2, overall. 1 would probably be my favorite if they refined its combat system and made the sidequests on the uncharted worlds something more exciting than canned dungeons.
Now a game I had pretty high expectations of but I ended up not liking at all... was Last Story. Really disappointed in that. Especially compared to Blue Dragon/Lost Odyssey (which were both awesome) and the previous OpRainfall game Xenoblade (a fucking masterpiece). Shitty framerate, ugly bland graphics, unresponsive controls, boring linear environments, Nobuo's most forgettable soundtrack.
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Big year for the industry... even Shit GOTY are being claimed by non-games.
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:lol Andrex choice :lol
I'm the only one to pick Resident Evil 6. I knew it was going to suck. But it somehow exceeded the expectation it was going to suck by being somehow worse. How could they do that!? I dunno, ask Capcom!
ME3 was always going to be shit since Bioware has never hit their promised "your choices matter!" in anything they claimed. IIRC, they claimed the same thing in KotOR 1 but the choices didn't matter outside of Light/Dark-side points. So I totally expected them to drop the ball there. The ending was the cherry on the pie.
Ass Creed 3 wouldn't have sucked if 1) the objectives that are entirely optional but required for the "full sync" achievement weren't a pain in the ass to do/get (DO NOT SHOVE OR PUSH ANYONE IN THIS CHASE!" "DO NOT GET ALERTED ON THE BOAT WHILE PLANTING BOMBS!") and 2) Desmond's ending wasn't completely rushed to brush him and the entire series aside for whatever Ubisoft has planned next.
There had to be a better way to end his story than rushing the ending like that. :-\ That aside, the game isn't awful when bugs don't get in the way. It's actually pretty fun to do the hunts and boat missions and explore the frontier/colonies. It's just the bugs and awful gameplay design getting in the way of that fun.
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I suppose I'll stick with the Vita. Gravity Rush can smd and I'll get around to (replaying) Persona 4 when it's cheaper.
nope. vita = underdog of the year. 8)
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i voted for mass effect 3