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Title: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 10, 2013, 10:36:20 PM
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS TIME? MY MONEY IS ON SCRIPTED EVENT
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 10, 2013, 10:37:26 PM
Holy shit just take my money...

In 2022 when this finally comes out.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2013, 10:37:47 PM
15-YEAR DEV CYCLE
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Post by: mjemirzian on June 10, 2013, 10:38:05 PM
Is this like the Final Fantasy version of Duke Nukem Forever?
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Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
:bow
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Post by: Diunx on June 10, 2013, 11:21:13 PM
Hot damn! Sony fucking whiped the floor with MS!
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 10, 2013, 11:22:41 PM
my vid was a little fuzzy, but I saw action RPG with lots of wall running and shit breaking.   


and CRYSTARRU CRYSTARRU CRYSTARRU the baby CRYSTARRU
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 10, 2013, 11:26:18 PM
CANT WAIT, even though it's a bit embarrassing.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 11:29:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvSW26rUVD4
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Post by: hampster on June 10, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
God all the story stuff looks terrible :yuck but I want to fight giant monsters so bad :(

Dat Leviathan :noah
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 11:32:31 PM
Guys I am geeking the fuck out over FFXV. I haven't been this excited for something FF related in a LONG time.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 11:32:53 PM
God all the story stuff looks terrible :yuck but I want to fight giant monsters so bad :(

Dat Leviathan :noah

Yeah that Leviathan :noah :gladbron

Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 10, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
looks great!
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 10, 2013, 11:36:05 PM
Story stuff doesn't seem like it'll be nearly as terrible as XIII series.  Noctis is a little pretentious and a little Adam Lambert, but I have a feeling it won't be made up noun city.   I at least understand it's dudes battling over a crystal.  The Lightning Returns trailer is incomprehensible.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: tiesto on June 10, 2013, 11:38:24 PM
I hope this doesn't mean that all FF games here on out are action RPGs.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Diunx on June 10, 2013, 11:41:52 PM
Hopefully they'll go back to the FF12 formula after they are done with this cristales shit.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Snake on June 10, 2013, 11:42:10 PM
Now imagine Bahamut.

 :rejoice
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 10, 2013, 11:43:37 PM
Hopefully they'll go back to the FF12 formula after they are done with this cristales shit.

fuck you.
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Post by: treythemovie on June 10, 2013, 11:43:42 PM
Uncharted Fantasy (TM)


So glad they switched away from Versus 13. Though I would have accepted simply Versus
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 10, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
they ever say what "Versus 13" meant? 
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Robo on June 10, 2013, 11:48:21 PM
The Final Fantasy cycle; trailer looks okay, game will invariably be a pile of shit.
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Post by: thisismyusername on June 10, 2013, 11:49:46 PM
Hopefully they'll go back to the FF12 formula after they are done with this cristales shit.

Eh, this looks like the next logical step from that. I wouldn't mind going back to that but this is still real-time in combat it seems. Just no ATB. I didn't see a Kingdom Heart's-style menu for magic and the like though. So who knows...
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 11:50:23 PM
Fuck Bahamut, imagine SHIVA. :rejoice
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 11:51:03 PM
The Final Fantasy cycle; trailer looks okay, game will invariably be a pile of shit.

I don't think this is true. I was very prominent with my FF13 apathy due to the trailers on gaf.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 10, 2013, 11:52:28 PM
Fuck Bahamut, imagine SHIVA. :rejoice


She probably won't be a motorcycle this time! 

 :rejoice
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Powerslave on June 10, 2013, 11:53:01 PM
I REALLY don't give a crap about this franchise anymore.

Solitaire>Final Fantasy
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Post by: PigSpeakers on June 10, 2013, 11:53:09 PM
Excited, again. But this does look rather scripted like uncharted. Hope there's still some normal battle sequences and open-world wandering around. I still want those things, Square-Enix. I really do.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 11:54:14 PM
Guys remember that the game has a world map. It's probably just the first part of the game.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Powerslave on June 10, 2013, 11:54:25 PM
they ever say what "Versus 13" meant? 

They won't have to because fuck you. Bravely default crystalis novula dissidia opus inertia valis duos decim FUCK YOU
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Raban on June 10, 2013, 11:56:19 PM
Final Fantasy VALIS sounds like a game I'd actually play
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: PigSpeakers on June 11, 2013, 12:04:15 AM
Guys remember that the game has a world map. It's probably just the first part of the game.

I did see the mini map when he was climbing up the airship and noted that it didn't look like it'd be corridors again.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 12:07:19 AM
Final Fantasy VALIS sounds like a game I'd actually play

like...Renovation Valis? 

*fistbump* 

Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 12:08:20 AM
The Final Fantasy cycle; trailer looks okay, game will invariably be a pile of shit.
What cycle? The series has a pretty great batting average.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Raban on June 11, 2013, 12:10:22 AM
like...Renovation Valis? 

*fistbump*
I was thinking the Phillip K Dick novel :(
EDIT: game looks kinda cool tho
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 12:21:57 AM
like...Renovation Valis? 

*fistbump*
I was thinking the Phillip K Dick novel :(
EDIT: game looks kinda cool tho


hey, that works for me too! 
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Powerslave on June 11, 2013, 12:31:18 AM
you guys should go to an inn together
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Raban on June 11, 2013, 12:33:49 AM
is don into cheeseburger cock? :-* I'll smoke you out before you smoke me out :tauntaun
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I was worried homosexual flirting would be too off-topic for this thread, then I realized it was Final Fantasy :teehee
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Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Purple Filth on June 11, 2013, 12:36:13 AM
I have always said that as long as I could do that teleport from the trailer I would play it.

they seemed to live up to their end of the bargain so I will live up to mine.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Powerslave on June 11, 2013, 12:36:45 AM
you can choc' on his 'bo


ehh i got nothing
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 02:17:12 AM
Looks fucking awesome!!!!!!

:rock :rock :rock


I can't even get into how much better the art design is in Versus compared to the last 7 years of shitty FFXIII world/characters.  So nice to get a grown up mature (at least in a FFVIII level, so for 14 year olds instead of 8 year olds) FF.


In Nomura we trust!  Keep Toriyama/Kitase the fuck away from this!


My only complaint is there looked to be no lighting model for the indoor scenes which looked shitty current-gen and not next-gen.  Hopefully they add that in the polish.  The outdoor lighting looked sick.  THE LEVIATHAN BATTLE. 


Does it not have a world map anymore?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2013, 02:29:10 AM
I have to say this looked good, ofc there is still 13 year olds but it looks much darker then 13.
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Post by: mjemirzian on June 11, 2013, 03:46:12 AM
I hope they keep moving towards action RPGs.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 03:49:34 AM
Says the only person on the bore excited for ff13 lightning's fart returns.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 04:03:56 AM
Bayonetta? It is kingdom fucking hearts. You know, the way Lightning's Fart Returns should have been.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 11, 2013, 04:16:59 AM
Thank god they will never return to FF12 formula

excited for this and lightning returns. fuck yeah square enix.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 04:41:09 AM
Borys, don't write it off yet.


Last trailer before it disappeared showed FFXII/Xenoblade style open world gameplay.  Could be a mix of that for exploring/questing and then linear scripted sections for cinematic story parts and fights.  I have this idea that they showed that type of scene because Americans like CoD/GoW.  At TGS they might show the rpg-side of it for JPN gamers.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 04:47:05 AM
Also it looks like the beginning of the game. Any FF fan worth their salt knows every story based FF is linear as shit in the first thirty minutes to hour. The only exceptions are 8 (Balamb Garden) and 12 (Rabanestre). They said in the trailer they're going to put a hit on Noctis' family. That is a very good starting point for a game intro. It will be typical 3d FF Hollywood extravaganza intro ala 7 and 10.

More than that we've already SEEN game play of fields and open world and shit. Jesus christ Borys.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 04:48:49 AM
Just gonna be so glad to be finally done with boring ass Lightning and back to REAL FF GAMES.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 04:49:51 AM
Word.

FF fans won tonight. Bury Shitiyama.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 04:56:12 AM
A forgettable, mediocre, and rushed name. Sound like a certain game? :teehee
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 05:09:33 AM
Fucker!
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Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 06:16:55 AM
seeing the final fantasy xv trailer is like watching from the outside a fancy dinner restaurant with the whole pig & apple setup... then you come home and all you have is a shitty pea soup/lightining return :fbm
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2013, 07:34:33 AM
alright borys - we know youre gonna be sqealing louder than anyone when this drops so you can stop pretending like youre cynical ::)
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Post by: MCD on June 11, 2013, 09:49:40 AM
Look sick.

It reminds me of The Last Story with the cover and shit but just way more over the top.

@Borys

I like FF13 Saga but I will be honest, I bought 13-2 and will buy LR day one just to see the story and characters conclusion.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
Fucker!


never set up oscar like that, he always wins  :'(
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Post by: Momo on June 11, 2013, 11:55:27 AM
so can i play it before 2020 this time please?
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Post by: PigSpeakers on June 11, 2013, 12:00:36 PM
so can i play it before 2020 this time please?

Sure, in the time it takes you to get the college required to work for Square Enix, get a job there, work your way up the corporate ladder until you're in a position to play test, the game still probably won't  have been released.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 12:02:07 PM
I bet the fact that it's called 15 means it's coming out.

They can't skip to 16 or name another game 15 now right? They have to be committed to this.
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Post by: PigSpeakers on June 11, 2013, 12:05:09 PM
I bet the fact that it's called 15 means it's coming out.

They can't skip to 16 or name another game 15 now right? They have to be committed to this.

Well, they can just keep stalling on the number 13...
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 12:10:19 PM
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Square Enix has confirmed that it will hold a Final Fantasy event at E3. Titled “The Future of Final Fantasy,” the event will be open to press from 9:00 - 10:00 a.m. Pacific on Tuesday, June 11th

i'm confused... shouldn't this be happening now?
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 12:12:13 PM
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Square Enix has confirmed that it will hold a Final Fantasy event at E3. Titled “The Future of Final Fantasy,” the event will be open to press from 9:00 - 10:00 a.m. Pacific on Tuesday, June 11th

i'm confused... shouldn't this be happening now?


now or 50mins from now

Or there is no event and they're just hoping we get the message :teehee
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Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 12:14:35 PM
Where can I watch?
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Post by: PigSpeakers on June 11, 2013, 12:15:35 PM
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Square Enix has confirmed that it will hold a Final Fantasy event at E3. Titled “The Future of Final Fantasy,” the event will be open to press from 9:00 - 10:00 a.m. Pacific on Tuesday, June 11th

i'm confused... shouldn't this be happening now?

I don't know. This schedule is hard to read:

http://square.vo.llnwd.net/o2/e3/SEP_E3_2013_program_ver_0607.pdf
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 11, 2013, 12:18:07 PM
Where can I watch?

No stream, it's a private media event. I'm sure we'll get information once it's over.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Those assholes are still doing that shit. :maf
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 12:20:12 PM
wow, they haven't learned. 

secret mega theater.   

Last time, that didn't turn out to mean they were hiding some super awesome secret game that was so cool it couldn't be shown.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
It's coming to Xbox as well.
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Post by: maxy on June 11, 2013, 12:25:35 PM
Betrayal.

PC?
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Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2013, 12:25:45 PM
It's coming to Xbox as well.

Kagari to change her avatar in 3... 2...

(And possibly commit suicide now that her precious Square isn't Sony exclusive)

Writing's been on the wall for years since 13 went multi-plat. It's just been a matter of time.

Now if they announce a release date, that's a bigger deal.

Betrayal.

PC?

They said they're using DX11, so if they were smart they would. But this is Square and they aren't too smart...
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Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 12:26:38 PM
It's coming to Xbox as well.

http://tiredgamer.ytmnd.com/

is it coming to current console? i still don't understand that ???
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 12:27:34 PM
Yeah I don't know why anyone would think it wouldn't come to Xbox. Game needs to sell as well as possible.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 11, 2013, 12:28:40 PM
When was the last AAA FF game?  X? 
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Post by: Powerslave on June 11, 2013, 12:31:41 PM
FFXV looks totally uninteresting. They all have been The Spirits Within: The Game ever since FFX.
I don't see how anyone can take a glance at the trailer and think of the words 'Final Fantasy'.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 12:32:20 PM
Yeah I don't know why anyone would think it wouldn't come to Xbox. Game needs to sell as well as possible.


These two sentences cancel each other  ???
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 12:32:29 PM
When was the last AAA FF game?  X?

As far as reviews and reception go I guess XII, but I like XIII so fuck the haters.

But I mean XIII was supposed to be a AAA game and is when it comes to production values.
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Post by: PigSpeakers on June 11, 2013, 12:32:30 PM
Betrayal.

PC?

I hope so. That would extend the amount of time before I have to buy a next gen console. I won't get a Wii U unless someone buys it for me or it's less than $200. I ain't got a job or money for that. And I don't have a stream of nintendo bucks (i.e. mom and dad's money) flowing to me any more despite living at home.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 12:33:50 PM
When was the last AAA FF game?  X?

XIII-1 

it had a butt load of money thrown in it, still has top 5 graphics and production values this gen.  just pretty boring.

XIII-2 was more budget, XIII-3 is practically Simple 2000 Series status
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 11, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
I meant in terms of being fun to play and general acclaim.  It seems like production value has been the fumes FF has been riding on since X.   
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 12:35:48 PM
When was the last AAA FF game?  X?

XIII-1 

it had a butt load of money thrown in it, still has top 5 graphics and production values this gen.  just pretty boring.

XIII-2 was more budget, XIII-3 is practically Simple 2000 Series status
Maybe not?

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And now we're on to Yoshinori Kitase, producer of Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remaster and Lighting Returns: Final Fantasy XIII. He's telling us about how the FFX remakes will be on Vita and PS3, to delight those who haven't played them. And he boasts that Lightning Returns is both new and challenging. Sprawling open-world map. "This is the ultimate Final Fantasy for the current-gen system."
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: cool breeze on June 11, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
glad it's coming to xbox one.  exclusives :piss2

has MGSV been announced for PS4 or PC?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 12:36:37 PM
Kitase, shut the fuck up and direct another FF.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 12:38:31 PM
I meant in terms of being fun to play and general acclaim.  It seems like production value has been the fumes FF has been riding on since X.   


when I first played it, I totally hated it. 

when I replayed it, I knew what to expect and liked it much better, but I still wouldn't recommend it to people.  Namely cause you don't get the full battle system for the first 20 hours.  Once you get it, it's one of the best FF battle systems, but that's literally all the game has.   No minigames, the "crafting" stuff sucks, crystarium level system is pretty linear, it's just the battle system. 
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 11, 2013, 12:40:44 PM
has MGSV been announced for PS4 or PC?

There is an extended 9-minute trailer later today, I'm sure they'll list all the consoles at the end of it.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 12:41:32 PM
I meant in terms of being fun to play and general acclaim.  It seems like production value has been the fumes FF has been riding on since X.   


when I first played it, I totally hated it. 

when I replayed it, I knew what to expect and liked it much better, but I still wouldn't recommend it to people.  Namely cause you don't get the full battle system for the first 20 hours.  Once you get it, it's one of the best FF battle systems, but that's literally all the game has.   No minigames, the "crafting" stuff sucks, crystarium level system is pretty linear, it's just the battle system.

felt the same when replaying.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 12:42:16 PM
also skipping cutscenes helps the second time through.  I didn't start doing that until after the first 10 hours the first time :lol
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 12:43:55 PM
i liked FF13 characters (even if they are a little cheesy),world and music and ultimately that's what make rpg good games for me
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 12:45:11 PM
FF13 characters :lol

FF13 "world" aka look at that cool shit we will NEVER LET YOU FULLY EXPLORE (Palomporum)

FF13 music :zzz
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 12:46:44 PM
FF13 characters :lol

FF13 "world" aka look at that cool shit we will NEVER LET YOU FULLY EXPLORE (Palomporum)

FF13 music :zzz

says the guy who likes FF13-2 :zzz
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 12:47:44 PM
I haven't played 13-2, Magus. The only FF game I've bought since 13 is Theatrhythm.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: cool breeze on June 11, 2013, 12:48:58 PM
has MGSV been announced for PS4 or PC?

There is an extended 9-minute trailer later today, I'm sure they'll list all the consoles at the end of it.

cool, thanks.  didn't know about that.


Kingdom Hearts 3 is coming to Xbox One as well
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 12:52:52 PM
FFXIII's characters weren't bad.  Sahz was great, Hope was alright after he stopped being annoying/whiny in the first 10 hours, Fang was solid, Snow was cheezy but fun, and Vanille...well it's always good to have a character with down syndrome in your game that you can laugh at.  BUT LIGHTNING ARGHGHGHG; in an attempt to make a female Cloud, they basically make the most uninteresting no-emotion boring lead in an FF to date.  She sucked in XIII, and I didn't play enough to see if she was any better in XIII-2, but I doubt it.  She's just a terrible attempt at a character and made the XIII franchise a giant waste.

FFXV looks totally uninteresting. They all have been The Spirits Within: The Game ever since FFX.
I don't see how anyone can take a glance at the trailer and think of the words 'Final Fantasy'.

 ::)

XII was awesome until it falls apart; XI/XII/XIII/XIV/XV all have looked like "FF";  What, you don't want cutscenes in your rpgs?  Play XI/XIV then.  XV probably looks the least FF because it was originally supposed to be a spinoff.  To me FFXV looks like Kingdom Hearts grown up and without the Disney.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 12:55:30 PM
FFXIII characters are terrible Bebs. Get real. Lightning is okay until she goes full circle exactly how i expected her character development to go: mean bitch aka INTERESTING CHARACTER -> let's all hold hands. Vanille is objectively the worst FF character. Snow sucks. HERO. WANNA BE A HERO. HEROES CAN NEVER DIE. HERO! Fang is pretty okay but forgettable. This leaves Hope who tries to murder Snow, thank god) but he sucks half the game, Sazh.

So really, only one interesting character.

SOUNDS NICE
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 12:57:04 PM
FFXV looks totally uninteresting. They all have been The Spirits Within: The Game ever since FFX.
I don't see how anyone can take a glance at the trailer and think of the words 'Final Fantasy'.

You only like the psx titles. We get it. Go away.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 12:58:12 PM
FFXIII's characters weren't bad.  Sahz was great, Hope was alright after he stopped being annoying/whiny in the first 10 hours, Fang was solid, Snow was cheezy but fun, and Vanille...well it's always good to have a character with down syndrome in your game that you can laugh at.  BUT LIGHTNING ARGHGHGHG; in an attempt to make a female Cloud, they basically make the most uninteresting no-emotion boring lead in an FF to date.  She sucked in XIII, and I didn't play enough to see if she was any better in XIII-2, but I doubt it.  She's just a terrible attempt at a character and made the XIII franchise a giant waste.

FFXV looks totally uninteresting. They all have been The Spirits Within: The Game ever since FFX.
I don't see how anyone can take a glance at the trailer and think of the words 'Final Fantasy'.

 ::)

XII was awesome until it falls apart; XI/XII/XIII/XIV/XV all have looked like "FF";  What, you don't want cutscenes in your rpgs?  Play XI/XIV then.  XV probably looks the least FF because it was originally supposed to be a spinoff.  To me FFXV looks like Kingdom Hearts grown up and without the Disney.

yup yup bebpo gets it,beside it's a pretty diverse cast... and you don't have to FULLY EXPLORE a game to enjoy it's setting,the atelier games i'm playing trough have exactly 1 town (well i guess totori has 2 of them) composed of around 5 screens and consist of piece of world so small you can see them whole in less than 3 minutes and somehow i'm still liking them
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 11, 2013, 12:58:51 PM
has MGSV been announced for PS4 or PC?

There is an extended 9-minute trailer later today, I'm sure they'll list all the consoles at the end of it.

cool, thanks.  didn't know about that.


Kingdom Hearts 3 is coming to Xbox One as well

Is there a good rundown of the stuff said at SE's press event this morning?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 01:00:09 PM
Yes. Yes you do need to explore to enjoy a games setting. At the very least, give us interesting lore and atmosphere. FF13 is a cavern fiesta and it sucks shit. Vagrant Story, Digital Devil Saga, and Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter offer much more in the way interesting settings and follow the same exact formula as FF13 (linear dungeon crawlers) but with a smidgen of personality and mood.

Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Vertigo on June 11, 2013, 01:02:45 PM
It's coming to Xbox as well.

Kagari to change her avatar in 3... 2...

(And possibly commit suicide now that her precious Square isn't Sony exclusive)

Writing's been on the wall for years since 13 went multi-plat. It's just been a matter of time.

Now if they announce a release date, that's a bigger deal.

They said they're using DX11, so if they were smart they would. But this is Square and they aren't too smart...

Lol wonder if her 'inside' sources told her that one. I noticed her absence in any SE thread this morning. Can't wait to hear the excuses. When gaf finally comes back up. Still can't forget her changing her lightning avatar when 13 was announced for Xbox 360.

This isn't her first goof this E3 she also shouted down and locked the thread made last week that PS4 would have paid multiplayer, again so she said she heard from her 'sources'.

What a magnificent bullshitter.

Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
I've not heard a single thing about FF15 on xbone but I figured that was common sense anyways. Unless the rumor that Sony helped fund it is true.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 11, 2013, 01:06:30 PM
I didn't expect KH3 on X1 considering X360 didn't get KH collection. Dat DRM money.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 01:08:23 PM
I don't expect KH3 on xbone either.

Wait, that's been announced?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 01:09:35 PM
Yes. Yes you do need to explore to enjoy a games setting. At the very least, give us interesting lore and atmosphere. FF13 is a cavern fiesta and it sucks shit. Vagrant Story, Digital Devil Saga, and Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter offer much more in the way interesting settings and follow the same exact formula as FF13 (linear dungeon crawlers) but with a smidgen of personality and mood.

i find the visual style of FF13 with all the mechy stuff very interessing and cool and i find dragon quarter boring and generic fantasy fluff done in a trillion of other rpg... u mad? :umad
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 11, 2013, 01:10:59 PM
I don't expect KH3 on xbone either.

Wait, that's been announced?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-final-fantasy-15-set-for-xbox-one-too
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 01:11:52 PM
BOFDQ's setting is boring and generic? But FF13 is interesting? lol. Well, opinions. But I know I'm right because I don't play Atelier games.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Vertigo on June 11, 2013, 01:12:25 PM
I've not heard a single thing about FF15 on xbone but I figured that was common sense anyways. Unless the rumor that Sony helped fund it is true.

Quote
"It was a huge amount of joy that we were finally able to announce Final Fantasy 15," said producer Shinji Hashimoto.

When asked why the company decided to publish for the Xbox One, he added that in order to reach the most fans, Square Enix has to flexible regarding which platforms their games will launch on.

Final Fantasy 15 is being developed with DirectX 11, which Hashimoto said made it possible to port the title to different hardware. This has made it possible for the company to launch the game on Xbox One as well, he said.

If Sony did help fund it and this is the final result. Then they got Level 5'ed.  :lol
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
BOFDQ's setting is boring and generic? But FF13 is interesting? lol. Well, opinions. But I know I'm right because I don't play Atelier games.

i already knew you had shit taste himuro no reason to restate it again by going against good loli's games :whoo
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 01:26:08 PM
BOFDQ's setting is boring and generic? But FF13 is interesting? lol. Well, opinions. But I know I'm right because I don't play Atelier games.

i already knew you had shit taste himuro no reason to restate it again by going against good loli's games :whoo


 :beli
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 01:29:34 PM
yeah

uh

good luck with that
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 01:44:46 PM
BOFDQ's setting is boring and generic? But FF13 is interesting? lol. Well, opinions. But I know I'm right because I don't play Atelier games.

i already knew you had shit taste himuro no reason to restate it again by going against good loli's games :whoo


 :beli

himuro plays a game full of anthropomorphic animals :lenowned
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 02:00:57 PM
If Dragon Quarter's setting was made by the FFXIII team it'd be boring and drab and terrible.


Dragon Quarter works because the talent that made it work.  They made it mysterious and intriguing.  They got great artists and had Sakimoto do a soundtrack that brought the world to life.  And then of course they had some of the best gameplay design in PS2 rpgs, which made the whole thing memorable and fun.


There's nothing wrong with XIII's setting (Pulse/Cocoon/Falcie), it's the team's (namely Toriyama) fault for not making it interesting in the game.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: cool breeze on June 11, 2013, 02:12:34 PM
high quality trailers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbwm-mzm5QA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWs6Izs0ce8
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rman on June 11, 2013, 02:17:12 PM
lol @ kagari.  thought these were exclusive lol.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 03:19:30 PM
At 1080p, some of the Versus stuff looks ridiculously good.  Great textures, great lighting, really good environment art direction.  Only PS3-looking stuff is the character models.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 03:21:01 PM
Anywhere I can download this stuff?

Hopefully that choppiness will be gone in the end product.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 11, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
Did anyone ask SE about Drag-on Dragoon 3 coming to NA?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2013, 05:10:52 PM
plays a game full of anthropomorphic animals :lenowned

you play games made for pedophiles and lie about the reasons youre interested in them. go sit down and turn your chair toward the corner.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Positive Touch on June 11, 2013, 05:12:28 PM
There's nothing wrong with XIII's setting (Pulse/Cocoon/Falcie), it's the team's (namely Toriyama) fault for not making it interesting in the game.

yup. if they woulda put some more character into it besides "here are some monsters that live in the area; why dont you kill them" then maybe people would have given a shit. instead its as one-dimension as the rest of the game
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 11, 2013, 05:15:56 PM
lol @ kagari.  thought these were exclusive lol.

Did her source at the GameStop tell her that?

Her BJ skills must not be very good.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 05:16:32 PM
There's nothing wrong with XIII's setting (Pulse/Cocoon/Falcie), it's the team's (namely Toriyama) fault for not making it interesting in the game.

yup. if they woulda put some more character into it besides "here are some monsters that live in the area; why dont you kill them" then maybe people would have given a shit. instead its as one-dimension as the rest of the game

nailed it

Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 05:17:35 PM
There's nothing wrong with XIII's setting (Pulse/Cocoon/Falcie), it's the team's (namely Toriyama) fault for not making it interesting in the game.

yup. if they woulda put some more character into it besides "here are some monsters that live in the area; why dont you kill them" then maybe people would have given a shit. instead its as one-dimension as the rest of the game

but those monster look cool as shit! i especialy like the behemoths
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 05:18:37 PM
Wow! They look so cool! Who. Cares. At. All? Great monster design (which 13 admittedly has) doesn't do a thing if the rest of the product isn't there.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 05:19:18 PM
Wow! They look so cool! Who. Cares. At. All?

me you soppy insufferable vagina! :maf
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 05:22:12 PM
plays a game full of anthropomorphic animals :lenowned

you play games made for pedophiles and lie about the reasons youre interested in them. go sit down and turn your chair toward the corner.

this atelier game i'm playing right now has an 8 year old girl as a playable character :shh

proper bore ending

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img819/7213/ateliermeruruboysbath.jpg)
[close]
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 05:41:43 PM
Vanille is objectively the worst FF character.

In a world where Selphie and Zell exist?  HAIL NO.

Wait, you said character, not even party member... oh god, too many possibilities... have I repressed enough of the truly awful NPCs over the years?  Hopefully.

Vanille is VOICE ACTED. Therefore SHE WINS.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 11, 2013, 05:49:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPogSTwUREM

From the 3 hour mark they're showing a bunch of gameplay of it. Looks hot. Dunno how to do the timestamp/mark thing.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 05:54:14 PM
Oh damn.  The scenes that had framerate problems in the trailer are perfectly smooth there.  Animation looks really nice.  Looks fun too!
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 05:55:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPogSTwUREM

From the 3 hour mark they're showing a bunch of gameplay of it. Looks hot. Dunno how to do the timestamp/mark thing.

game kinda reminds me of when they showed the white knight chronicle trailer,maybe it will end the same way :lol
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
Except that was a mockup and this is obviously real gameplay since it's jumping all over the place showing fights.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: demi on June 11, 2013, 06:00:45 PM
This is coming to ONE by the way
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 06:02:03 PM
Except that was a mockup and this is obviously real gameplay since it's jumping all over the place showing fights.

IGN "too scripted 7.9"
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: cool breeze on June 11, 2013, 06:34:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A

zero shifting around looks so much fun.  hope this is real  :(
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 06:34:52 PM
BATTLE GAMEPLAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 06:39:14 PM
HOLY FUCK IN NOMURA I TRUST
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Snake on June 11, 2013, 06:43:06 PM
@2:30. :bow That fire spell. :bow2
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
The sword parrying with the Iron Giant :gladbron

:bow NOMURA :bow2
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 06:54:11 PM
You know that parrying part is a QTE...right?  :P


Looks awesome and I wish the game had a real parry like MGS:R but yeaaaah that was QTE  :lol



Looks fun, I'm more interested in the end bits where he's slamming heads into cars and fighting barehanded.  The more variety in combat the better.  Looks like you can call in your two partners and use their weapons.  Would be cool if you get a party like a normal FF of like 6-9 people and then you make a party of 3 and use their attacks/weapons to hit weakpoints.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: demi on June 11, 2013, 06:57:10 PM
haha, it really is just basically Kingdom Hearts
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: tiesto on June 11, 2013, 06:58:27 PM
I don't understand why Japanese companies even bother releasing on Xbox platforms. The average Xbox fan just isn't interested..
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 06:58:29 PM
Yup, it's Kingdom Hearts as fuck.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 11, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
haha, it really is just basically Kingdom Hearts

correction,it's techno kingdom hearts... i'm so jealous i can't pirate this on my ps3 :'(
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2013, 07:16:26 PM
Okay, that looked much better than the shit they showed earlier. I'm still skeptical about anything SE makes nowadays though.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
"Details from Nomura on the livestream.

-They shifted the game to next-gen and made it a mainline title due to the scale/scope.
-The game is an action RPG, but there are command system elements in the game.
-Noctis is "not cool inside" and not a cool dude, but a quirky dude.
-Party members are a core part of Final Fantasy, so there is a party in this game.
-Noctis can teleport himself into the sky. Though he's not a gravity wizard, Noctis does not fall at a Newtonian rate for gameplay purposes.
-The current generation console versions were canceled about a year ago. They're still working to improve the graphics on the next-gen version.
-They are making games in DirectX 11 on PC and then porting them to the PS4 and Xbox One since they can handle that. They can consider any platform that support high end DirectX 11 level hardware functionality and horsepower. (Hey Square, that DX11 PC dev platform you mentioned earlier can run this! Just saying!)"

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584516
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2013, 07:38:41 PM
That looks pretty good, I especially like the overall art style and scope. It feels like a crazy Japanese style that's been filtered through a more realistic vision.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 07:42:00 PM
That looks pretty good, I especially like the overall art style and scope. It feels like a crazy Japanese style that's been filtered through a more realistic vision.

Wonderful pr speak, Rumbler!

This is fantasy based on reality!

:rejoice
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2013, 07:57:59 PM
That looks pretty good, I especially like the overall art style and scope. It feels like a crazy Japanese style that's been filtered through a more realistic vision.

This is fantasy based on reality!

:rejoice

:bow
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 08:27:12 PM
Meh, I really don't want Kingdom Hearts combat in a FF game. Right now this looks very automated and QTE heavy. That's not what I'm playing a jrpg for.

Should have stayed a spin-off.

Graphics and art look top tier though.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Snake on June 11, 2013, 08:31:29 PM
I just hope the flying/teleportation mechanics are better than Dissidia's. This is my only request.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 08:36:09 PM
I don't see what's wrong with one game that's action rpg. The next FF likely won't be an action rpg either. each new ff has a new language to get used to. :patel

Also, a full on action FF is refreshing. I'm excited.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 08:41:42 PM
Meh, I really don't want Kingdom Hearts combat in a FF game. Right now this looks very automated and QTE heavy. That's not what I'm playing a jrpg for.

Should have stayed a spin-off.

Graphics and art look top tier though.
fuck that weak ass menu heavy shit. KH was the future of the JRPG its just that people didnt realize it :bow

active gaming :bow

fluidity :bow

interactive worlds :bow
Does KH have those things? And while combat has gotten better with each installment(as far as I'm aware, I've only played 1-2-BBS). It's still pretty simple and meh combat. With two being the worst offender with mash until you can press triangle combat. BBS has the best combat and I'm pretty sure that's not the team making this one. The KH2 team is.

And interactive worlds? Do people believe KH games have good level design? They have quite possibly the most bland and dull levels in jrpgs.

I really never got why KH was popular and I've tried three times and failed.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 08:52:46 PM
ok so...after DX11 version is done, just pop in a blank DVD and make a PC version.   (that's how it works.)
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: demi on June 11, 2013, 08:54:35 PM
I haven't played 13-2, Magus. The only FF game I've bought since 13 is Theatrhythm.

:rofl

What a FF fan you are. Lemme guess you also did not play Ni No Kuni? Resonance of Fate? What is the last jRPG you have played that is not a 5 year old Persona port? I think it is time to call you up on your bullshit, Himumu :punch

Nailed it. Himu on blast.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
I haven't played 13-2, Magus. The only FF game I've bought since 13 is Theatrhythm.

:rofl

What a FF fan you are. Lemme guess you also did not play Ni No Kuni? Resonance of Fate? What is the last jRPG you have played that is not a 5 year old Persona port? I think it is time to call you up on your bullshit, Himumu :punch

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. Before that it was Dragon Quest VI, Radiant Historia (caught up after my ds broke), and Ys Origin. You're listing all of these console jrpgs that are years old when everyone that is a jrpg fan plays the genre on handhelds.

You bring up Persona 4 Golden when I don't even have a Vita. Since you don't know that much how in the world would you expect me to believe you know what jrpg fans are playing besides the very sporadic console game? Have you even played TWEWY? Or any Atlus DS title? Or an an Ys? This is rich coming from you Borys. :punch :teehee

What kind of FF fan am I? The lapsed kind. Which is why I'm so damn happy with how XV is turning out.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 09:15:44 PM
But you're right I don't get much jrpg play than I used to. But I don't think I could be blamed for that. The genre is on a downward spiral with less and less releases. Jrpg fans should stick together borys. :heartbeat
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 09:16:53 PM
BATTLE GAMEPLAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A

HOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKK



looks a lot like DMC in RPG form. :obama

Just like the XIII trailers, I can barely parse how this is gonna work.  There's a dodge button...uh...attack...he has fei long's command grab...some magic :lol 
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2013, 09:18:16 PM
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. Before that it was Dragon Quest VI, Radiant Historia (caught up after my ds broke), and Ys Origin. You're listing all of these console jrpgs that are years old when everyone that is a jrpg fan plays the genre on handhelds.
ugh...
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
I can tell what's going on kinda easily it is just that the UI as it is now, is dog shit.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 11, 2013, 09:19:31 PM
It's true console jrpgs haven't been plentiful, but I am kind of tired of the sentiment that it's some wasteland. Plenty of decent ones, even without dipping into the kiddie pool.

I don't have a handheld, but have been pretty satisfied.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 09:23:15 PM
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. Before that it was Dragon Quest VI, Radiant Historia (caught up after my ds broke), and Ys Origin. You're listing all of these console jrpgs that are years old when everyone that is a jrpg fan plays the genre on handhelds.
ugh...

You say that but it is true.

How many worthwhile console jrpgs are there this Gen? I can count them on one hand and that's without having played Xenoblade or TLR (yet). People are wetting their pants for goddamn Tales because a fucking Tales game delivered arguably the best console jrpg of the generation. That is how low our standards have fallen Beezy.

So we are at the end of the console Gen and the jrpgs I have too look forward to are....Tales, Ni No Kuni, and...Lightning Returns? :rofl
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 09:25:58 PM
Borys if you do not buy persona 5 or at least pirate smt4 I am going to MURDER YOU
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
I can tell what's going on kinda easily it is just that the UI as it is now, is dog shit.

mm hmm, how does the battle system work then
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 09:37:51 PM
I can tell what's going on kinda easily it is just that the UI as it is now, is dog shit.

mm hmm, how does the battle system work then

Well it looks like KH, breh. It looks like you have contextual input commands ala KH in real time. The big problem is that the UI doesn't tell you what's a qte or not. So a lot of qte stuff looks like gameplay. It's not so confusing if you've played KH. You lock on, and then you do the teleport thing. Notice how he has to lock on to get to the behemoth at that one part.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
I can tell what's going on kinda easily it is just that the UI as it is now, is dog shit.

mm hmm, how does the battle system work then

Well it looks like KH, breh. It looks like you have contextual input commands ala KH in real time. The big problem is that the UI doesn't tell you what's a qte or not. So a lot of qte stuff looks like gameplay. It's not so confusing if you've played KH. You lock on, and then you do the teleport thing. Notice how he has to lock on to get to the behemoth at that one part.


That's why I didn't get it then, very little KH experience.   like 5 hours of BBS
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 09:48:31 PM
I don't get why people care if Versus has a number or not.  The game was still going to come out, the same staff would be on it, and the next mainline FF would still be in the pipeline for the same release date, only that will now be called FFXVI instead of FFXV. 
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 09:51:31 PM
I don't get why people care if Versus has a number or not.  The game was still going to come out, the same staff would be on it, and the next mainline FF would still be in the pipeline for the same release date, only that will now be called FFXVI instead of FFXV.

I agree. I'm also shocked people are miffed about it being real time considering we've known that for how many years now?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2013, 09:53:01 PM
I can tell what's going on kinda easily it is just that the UI as it is now, is dog shit.

mm hmm, how does the battle system work then

Well it looks like KH, breh. It looks like you have contextual input commands ala KH in real time. The big problem is that the UI doesn't tell you what's a qte or not. So a lot of qte stuff looks like gameplay. It's not so confusing if you've played KH. You lock on, and then you do the teleport thing. Notice how he has to lock on to get to the behemoth at that one part.


That's why I didn't get it then, very little KH experience.   like 5 hours of BBS

Here watch this:

Do the party member combo attacks, party interaction, party member ai, flashy looking qte-lite (that's contextual btw) thing look familiar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTrdF4TKawc

Ignore the guy playing, he sucks. I'm talking about the look and the core mechanics.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 12, 2013, 01:16:02 AM
there were some decent jrpgs on consoles this last gen, but comparing psp/ds to home consoles is like comparing ps2 to gamecube.

if you have a dysfunction that prevents you from enjoying games just because they're on handhelds, that's unfortunate.  it ranks up there with the dysfunction that prevents people from enjoying games that are on non-nintendo hardware in terms of tragic outcomes.

and it's only going to get worse if you're a jrpg fan.  what was once a 30-70 console/handheld split is going to quickly become 5-60-25 console/handheld/smartphone in the coming gen.
Its a dysfunction to have a preferences for consoles?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 12, 2013, 01:17:06 AM
ok, got it.

yeah, i loved how the guy kept getting hit mid roll.  there must have been 5 scenes in that trailer that began with him getting while trying to roll dodge
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2013, 04:00:01 AM
Analysis

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=585421
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 12, 2013, 05:36:31 AM
I don't get why people care if Versus has a number or not.  The game was still going to come out, the same staff would be on it, and the next mainline FF would still be in the pipeline for the same release date, only that will now be called FFXVI instead of FFXV.

well it was kind of silly of them to have a bajillion of FF13 spinoff that didn't have anything to do with each other at all to begin with,and it's kind of silly the next big FF title is a spinoff game that required more than 5 years to happen

Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2013, 10:49:59 AM
I'm sorry guys but that is the first time I've been wowed by FF visuals since forever. FFXII and FFFXIII looked good. Great even. But this impressed me more than when I saw FFVII the first time. The sense of scale in that final Leviathan shot in the game play trailer? Holy shit.

More than that, the art doesn't look like the dog shit in XIII. On every board I read people are saying they see stuff from their favorite FF. "Holy shit, VI vibes!" "This art reminds me of ViI." Meanwhile people even think the art reminds them somewhat of IX and XII due to the architecture. I personally am reminded of VIII. I find it fascinating they've done this. It is like a culmination of all FF art to this point. It has pizazz and cool and its pretty too.

I see people bitching it is an action rpg and it is a DMC clone. I fart on them. Look at that battle trailer. FF is starting to lose a hold on players and has less name power than it did in the past especially after XIII and 14. This game is what FF needs to be a household name again.

If you followed my posts over the years you'd remember how I thought FFXIII looked absolutely boring in trailers. I even argued with friends on Square fan site I visit over the art many times. I thought it looked uninspired and boring. I watch that FFXV trailer and I'm the complete fucking opposite. I WANT TO PLAY IT NOW due to the actual product and what it is rather than out of obligation due to name power. I haven't said that about an FF product in over ten years.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2013, 10:57:29 AM
If you can't tell Final Fantasy is really special to me and I'm just excited that I *am* excited about it again. I just can't believe it. :sadbron
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 12, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
XV looks awesome and I can't wait to play it.

However, I really want a single-player game that has the artstyle of XIV.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 12, 2013, 12:27:28 PM
That's cool.  Doesn't do much for me, but it's good to see folks happy with this series again.  Inexplicably from a game that existed the whole time, but I digress.

i wouldn't worry much,another two/three trailer about lightining return and mobage game and we can restore the hating status quo :teehee
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 12, 2013, 12:47:04 PM
Quote from: duckroll;62968066
New thread for new news I guess. There's a new Jump scan floating around with descriptions of the main party in the game, and the Japanese voice cast for the characters (which is also in the Japanese press release for the game).

Noctis Lucis Caelum (Tatsuhisa Suzuki)
Prince of the Lucis Kingdom, possessing eyes which can sense the death of others. His close friends call him Noct.


Ignis Scientia (Mamoru Miyano)
The eldest son of a household tasked with protecting the royal family from generation to generation. A close friend of Noctis who is closer to him than a true brother.


Gladiolus Amicitia (Kenta Miyake)
A childhood friend of Noctis who grew up recieving gifted education befitting a staff officer. He understands Noctis well and is his confidant.


Prompto Argentum (Tetsuya Kakihara)
A friend who has been a bad influence to Noctis since his school days. While he can get carried away easily, there's another side of him which is driven to help friends in need.


Cor Rionis (Hiroki Touchi)
Head of Royal Family Guards, and one of the three strongest fighters in Lucis. While he is harsh to Noctis and the others, he is a true man of honor who takes his vows to king and country very seriously.


The characters are also the ones on the key visual poster they showed at the Future of FF media briefing. From left to right it's Prompto, Gladiolus, Noctis, Ignis, and Cor:

(http://i.imgur.com/RpVu3vv.jpg)

C-tier animu in 2015 fall season
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Raban on June 12, 2013, 12:50:22 PM
localizing this game must be a fucking nightmare
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 12, 2013, 12:59:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNU1ehnCVP8

Here is your plot!
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 12, 2013, 01:22:18 PM
Nomura's wet dream
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 12, 2013, 01:29:46 PM
Quote
Noctis Lucis Caelum (Tatsuhisa Suzuki)
Prince of the Lucis Kingdom, possessing eyes which can sense the death of others. His close friends call him Noct.

nintendo fans hating on this game for taking plot point from xenoblade incomingggggggggggg

chooooooooooooo chooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2013, 02:19:41 PM
Those names. :rofl
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 12, 2013, 02:30:47 PM
Those names. :rofl

i just noticed one of them is called Cor Rionis

spoiler (click to show/hide)
"Coglioni" in italian is a slang for penis or just indicates a dickhead :rofl
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Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 12, 2013, 03:02:03 PM
My name's Agent Noctis Lucis Caelum.  But please, call me Noct.  That's what everyone calls me.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 13, 2013, 04:32:32 AM
The names are quite a mouthful, but I still prefer them to stuff like "Lightning".
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 13, 2013, 04:07:48 PM
I'd say that's not a bad idea, yet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNKxU9eSrNg

 :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Hock on June 13, 2013, 04:38:16 PM
I'm so shipping Noctis and Prompto!
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 13, 2013, 05:55:45 PM
I really lost all faith in square with 13 and 14.

But count me in on this one, looks shit hot!
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 13, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
Fantasy name-itis.

My name is B'dark Illiaquestorius Gladatoniorest'avar the 19th

but you can call me Al


noun-itis


B'dark Illiaquestorious, we must find the spiralicaliesse before the moonsphere goes al'tieneour and transforms into Glorialistana crystals or some shit.

I still have no idea what the XIII characters are talking about half the time.  XII is bad about that too, since they have that weird accent/dialect thing going on.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 13, 2013, 08:07:55 PM
I really lost all faith in square with 13 and 14.

But count me in on this one, looks shit hot!

Have you seen the 14 reboot stuff?  It looks....good.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 13, 2013, 08:36:12 PM
I really lost all faith in square with 13 and 14.

But count me in on this one, looks shit hot!

Have you seen the 14 reboot stuff?  It looks....good.

14 looks incredible. Too bad it's an MMO.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rufus on June 13, 2013, 09:37:12 PM
Subscription based, no less.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 13, 2013, 10:13:27 PM
and an unprecedented attempt at reviving a completely disastrous failure of an MMO, years after the fact

i appreciate the hustle they've put in, but i can't imagine this is going to go well at all


Seems like they've added 200% more waifus, with new glasses girls today.   Lots of gushing over the characters and such. 

You have to wonder if F2P but with paid DLC customization options (with 1000s of options available) would do better than sub model
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: archie4208 on June 13, 2013, 10:48:09 PM
and an unprecedented attempt at reviving a completely disastrous failure of an MMO, years after the fact

i appreciate the hustle they've put in, but i can't imagine this is going to go well at all


Seems like they've added 200% more waifus, with new glasses girls today.   Lots of gushing over the characters and such. 

You have to wonder if F2P but with paid DLC customization options (with 1000s of options available) would do better than sub model

http://www.gamesradar.com/dc-universe-online-revenue-700-after-f2p-switch/

http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/20/tera-mmo-has-more-subscribers-as-a-free-to-play-game-than-when-it-required-a-subscription/

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32322/Turbine_Lord_of_the_Rings_Online_Revenues_Tripled_As_FreeToPlay_Game.php

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112212-Free-to-Play-Age-of-Conan-Doubles-Revenues

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/16968/team-fortress-2-going-free-to-play-earned-12-times-more-revenue

Possibly.

I'm sure Square is making FF14 pay2play for now to help recoup expenses for basically remaking the whole game.  There will probably be a F2P switch within 12 to 18 months of launch.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 14, 2013, 02:40:08 AM
I really lost all faith in square with 13 and 14.

But count me in on this one, looks shit hot!

Have you seen the 14 reboot stuff?  It looks....good.

I sat in the same room as guys that were testing it for months :)
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 14, 2013, 03:07:02 AM
I'm sorry guys but that is the first time I've been wowed by FF visuals since forever. FFXII and FFFXIII looked good. Great even. But this impressed me more than when I saw FFVII the first time. The sense of scale in that final Leviathan shot in the game play trailer? Holy shit.

More than that, the art doesn't look like the dog shit in XIII. On every board I read people are saying they see stuff from their favorite FF. "Holy shit, VI vibes!" "This art reminds me of ViI." Meanwhile people even think the art reminds them somewhat of IX and XII due to the architecture. I personally am reminded of VIII. I find it fascinating they've done this. It is like a culmination of all FF art to this point. It has pizazz and cool and its pretty too.

I see people bitching it is an action rpg and it is a DMC clone. I fart on them. Look at that battle trailer. FF is starting to lose a hold on players and has less name power than it did in the past especially after XIII and 14. This game is what FF needs to be a household name again.

If you followed my posts over the years you'd remember how I thought FFXIII looked absolutely boring in trailers. I even argued with friends on Square fan site I visit over the art many times. I thought it looked uninspired and boring. I watch that FFXV trailer and I'm the complete fucking opposite. I WANT TO PLAY IT NOW due to the actual product and what it is rather than out of obligation due to name power. I haven't said that about an FF product in over ten years.
Whatever you may have felt about XIII's character design, its setting design was absolutely fucking phenomenal and you'd be goddamn blind to disagree. One look at the Gapra Whitewood and shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 04:43:25 AM
The settings are fine. They look neat. But that's really it. The game doesn't feel like an actual world so much as a series of dungeons. XII fares better, but even it lacks the visual panache of that FFXV gameplay video with Leviathan raging across the city. That's psx era FF visuals without the fmv. I think you missed my point entirely. I didn't say FFXIII didn't have good art - it certainly had decent art - but it wasn't memorable or anything that made me drop my jaw. The last FF to do that was FFX.

That FFXV video however, is like Alexander vs Bahamut in real time, without fmv. Final Fantasy with memorable visuals is back it seems - it only took 12 years.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 04:46:18 AM
Speaking of which, it's great seeing Leviathan in general. Haven't seen him in a single player FF game since FFIX. It really makes me happy and frustrated it took us damn near 12 years to see classic FF summons again. Fuck FFXIII incarnations. The more I watch, the more FFXV just excites my inner teen-self. I was a junior/senior in High School when FFXII was announced. I have been waiting for a new sp 3d FF with traditional FF lore and trappings for years. I can't contain my excitement.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 04:52:03 AM
I don't think any of them are really memorable except Lake Bresha. Palumpolum is just a regular old city. Palamecia, I have no clue what that even is. Is Eden the final dungeon? See? I don't even know what these places are, much less remember what they look like. For a Final Fantasy, that's a problem.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 04:57:03 AM
I liked the town on Pulse. The vacant town. Probably the only legitimately atmospheric part of the game.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 14, 2013, 12:55:50 PM
I'm sorry guys but that is the first time I've been wowed by FF visuals since forever. FFXII and FFFXIII looked good. Great even. But this impressed me more than when I saw FFVII the first time. The sense of scale in that final Leviathan shot in the game play trailer? Holy shit.

More than that, the art doesn't look like the dog shit in XIII. On every board I read people are saying they see stuff from their favorite FF. "Holy shit, VI vibes!" "This art reminds me of ViI." Meanwhile people even think the art reminds them somewhat of IX and XII due to the architecture. I personally am reminded of VIII. I find it fascinating they've done this. It is like a culmination of all FF art to this point. It has pizazz and cool and its pretty too.

I see people bitching it is an action rpg and it is a DMC clone. I fart on them. Look at that battle trailer. FF is starting to lose a hold on players and has less name power than it did in the past especially after XIII and 14. This game is what FF needs to be a household name again.

If you followed my posts over the years you'd remember how I thought FFXIII looked absolutely boring in trailers. I even argued with friends on Square fan site I visit over the art many times. I thought it looked uninspired and boring. I watch that FFXV trailer and I'm the complete fucking opposite. I WANT TO PLAY IT NOW due to the actual product and what it is rather than out of obligation due to name power. I haven't said that about an FF product in over ten years.
Whatever you may have felt about XIII's character design, its setting design was absolutely fucking phenomenal and you'd be goddamn blind to disagree. One look at the Gapra Whitewood and shut the fuck up.

Gapra Whitewood is the worst looking area in the game. Yes even Vile Peaks look better.

For best art. & design areas you have:

- Palumpolum
- Lake Bresha
- Palamecia
- Eden

All are better looking and more memorable than Gapra.
No way. The Gapra Whitewood is a fucking gorgeous crystalline forest in the vein of Macalania Woods in FFX. Easily my favorite area in the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h--Y16xm7Lk

So gorgeous
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 14, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
Oh god watching 30 seconds of that storyline is giving me a headache
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 02:34:35 PM
FF13 is a forgettable boring game. Why the fuck are we talking about it?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 14, 2013, 03:06:07 PM
it was pretty fun
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 14, 2013, 03:09:35 PM
I don't think any of them are really memorable except Lake Bresha. Palumpolum is just a regular old city. Palamecia, I have no clue what that even is. Is Eden the final dungeon? See? I don't even know what these places are, much less remember what they look like. For a Final Fantasy, that's a problem.


and how are these places even connected? I had no sense of the world.  I agree it's a problem, made it feel like I was playing long, boring levels, rather than being on a quest.

I suppose if I watched cutscenes I would know how it all fit together but in past final fantasies, the transitions between regions were done in game, which was fun.  Always loved discovering the next area.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 03:31:02 PM
I don't think any of them are really memorable except Lake Bresha. Palumpolum is just a regular old city. Palamecia, I have no clue what that even is. Is Eden the final dungeon? See? I don't even know what these places are, much less remember what they look like. For a Final Fantasy, that's a problem.


and how are these places even connected? I had no sense of the world.  I agree it's a problem, made it feel like I was playing long, boring levels, rather than being on a quest.

I suppose if I watched cutscenes I would know how it all fit together but in past final fantasies, the transitions between regions were done in game, which was fun.  Always loved discovering the next area.

What is the history of the locations? What do people do there? What are interesting lore?

CHECK THE DATALOG TO FIND OUT.

When you play FFX they disclose the history of every single location. Why Luca's blitzball arena is so popular and why blitzball is such an old standby. Why the Mi'ihen Highroad is named the way it is. When you go to Macalania and see those crystals, they tell you what that shit is and the significance. Crossing the ford on Shoo'pufs? Here's a cute story of Yuna jumping the water and making Kimahri lose his shit.

I remember all of this and I find it the backbone of every single story based FF.

For a story based FF, FFXIII really fails HARD at actually making its world interesting. The only good thing I can say about it is that the battle system is fun.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: mjemirzian on June 14, 2013, 03:35:47 PM
FF13 was the first FF I played all the way through since FF6 ages ago. I liked the more action oriented combat and job setups.

Can't say much for the plot but that's not usually why I play games.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 03:40:12 PM
I don't really play them for story or plot. But when I play an rpg, I like to play in a place that felt like it always existed. For me it is a prerequisite for any great rpg. Even gameplay oriented ones. I have to feel like I belong in your world. You can convey this by sidequests, world building via story, even gameplay systems. Whatever. FFXIII barely passes in any of these categories for me.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2013, 05:24:33 PM
Never owned a SNES or PSX, and if I played the NES games they were probably too complicated for my younger self and didn't leave any kind of impression on me. So I'm like Ralx and started with X when it came out. Played all the ones since .Went back to play the 2 on the SNES emulators. Haven't touched the PSX ones, although I have a couple purchased on PSN. doubt I'll ever play them

wrong thread whatever
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 14, 2013, 05:25:58 PM
I don't really play them for story or plot.

I play them mainly for the battle system and stats. Still bummed at the near-death state of turn-based JRPGs on consoles.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 14, 2013, 05:27:15 PM
I play them for the settings and story.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 05:29:09 PM
I play them for battles, NUMBERS, customization, fun mechanics, exploration and side quests. The settings and characters are a big thing for me as well.

I don't play FF exclusively for battle system because usually the battle system is pretty damn simplistic and repetitive, but it delivers on about everything else.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 06:21:04 PM
http://kotaku.com/the-rejuvenation-of-final-fantasy-513433031

 :)
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 14, 2013, 06:29:04 PM
will wait for the article about FFXV being a sexist game for having no female character
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 06:31:19 PM
After FFXIII, do we really want more female main characters? That's three FF's in a row starring a female character. The fact that the main cast is all male is actually refreshing because of that now. More than that, Stella seems to be a big part of the story, so I think that point is moot. And it's not really a foreign idea that a crowned prince of a country in a world where numerous nations are being attacked would be surrounded by males.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 14, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
After FFXIII, do we really want more female main characters? That's three FF's in a row starring a female character. The fact that the main cast is all male is actually refreshing because of that now. More than that, Stella seems to be a big part of the story, so I think that point is moot. And it's not really a foreign idea that a crowned prince of a country in a world where numerous nations are being attacked would be surrounded by males.

it was more of a joke aimed at kotak than anything else,

if i had to complain at FFXV cast rather than worrying about having female character or not i'd say the problem is that it sort of looks too homogeneous,i especialy hate this guy for being the main character but blonde

(http://i.imgur.com/U4eccNX.jpg)
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 07:01:10 PM
In pretty sure he is the character said to be a bad influence on Noctis so I'm sure it is deliberate.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 07:35:05 PM
http://kotaku.com/the-rejuvenation-of-final-fantasy-513433031

 :)

and lo, a new sonic cycle is born

I dunno, I always thought FFXIII looked boring. I haven't been actively excited for an FF since X-2, tbh. Unless you count remakes.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100459

"A few of us agree that FFXIII looks like generic sci-fi with over the top action scenes." Me, circa 2006
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 07:41:58 PM
You're right. But we're desperate. :fbm
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2013, 07:43:16 PM
I like the team, I really like Nomura as a game designer/producer/director, but otherwise I agree with the stuff you said and the game could go either way.  Hopefully they keep showing footage all year (like the world map, vehicles, etc...) to prove there's actually a good meaty game behind all the curtains.

I'm being optimistic mainly because I haven't been burnt by Nomura in a long time.  Even Dissidia which had like the worst goddamn story and cutscenes...had really deep, fun, and creative gameplay.  Loved Crisis Core, Loved TWEWY, loved most of the KH games.  Even Advent Children: DC wasn't bad for an FF movie. 
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 14, 2013, 07:44:32 PM
Not just talking about you, Himu.  Seeing lots of people getting their hopes up awful high for a game with a highly troubled development from an iffy team with literally no experience in the last seven years.  This game should be met with the absolute highest skepticism, slick trailers or not.

not to mention that it will be at least another year before it gets released and that you have to buy a 400$ console to play it
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2013, 07:45:43 PM
I hate FF15 cast not because of their look but how they are all predictable.

Hero with eye powers
Someone who is like a big bro to the hero
The funny outgoing cool dude
That dude with glasses
The serious but good hearted guy


Bad animu 15
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2013, 07:47:02 PM
Yeah, but they all dress really well so it's ok  8)
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 07:49:47 PM
AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :maf :maf :maf

Quote
If they can do it well, that's fine and dandy. But we'll see. I personally doubt they can but I want to believe. I really do.

I am looking forward to FFXIII despite my hesitation. I am a big fan of FFX and FFX-2. Having the same team work on this game seems great, and I SHOULD be excited. But after that trailer, which looked straight out of Advent Children, I've taken FFXIII a lot less seroiusly.

I hope they prove me wrong, and I really hope it's better than I am expecting it to be.

- Himuro, 05-20-2006, 12:02 AM

:sadbron
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 07:51:09 PM
I hate FF15 cast not because of their look but how they are all predictable.

Hero with eye powers
Someone who is like a big bro to the hero
The funny outgoing cool dude
That dude with glasses
The serious but good hearted guy


Bad animu 15

> likes FFXIII, especially Hope and Snow
> Darker Than Black fantard
> posts in the anime thread
> has a problem with all things listed

???
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2013, 07:59:45 PM
Hope got more personality than all characters listed there.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 08:01:35 PM
Really? The character interaction in FFXV gameplay trailer has me interested on these guys and I have no clue who the fuck they are.

When blonde guy pushes Noctis back after saving him, and they high five in the middle of battle, I really liked that. The characters actually feel like they have personalities beyond animu flavor of the week ideology we got in FF13 and that's based off of a five second clip.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2013, 08:06:38 PM
I think you are way too excited for your own good.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 08:09:09 PM
I know you're right but I can't help it. It looks like Final Fantasy. When was the last time I had something like that? :(

I'm buying FF: D, fuck it.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2013, 08:16:17 PM
I like Nomura's take on battle systems. They are actiony, instant, fast, fluid and above all fun.

Now if only he could hire a competent writer like Gen Urobuchi. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
I like the original Kingdom Hearts' story. it was simple and to the point, and well directed. It's the sequels I have an issue with in terms of story, but when you're dealing with a franchise that has an amalgam of Disney characters in it...I can't really blame him for the direction the franchise went.

Oh dear, you think this is going to beyond anime of the week crap?  Are you familiar with this guy, this Tetsuya Nomura?

I didn't say it was beyond it. It's anime, but it's the type of anime I find appealing.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2013, 08:19:42 PM
Good Nojima is on par with good Urobuchi.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 08:20:29 PM
Nojima is writing XV?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2013, 08:23:44 PM
KH is pure fanservice and he or they can do whatever the fuck they want.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Nojima is writing XV?

Yep.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
And Advent Children.  :yuck
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 11:21:16 PM
Nojima is writing XV?

Yep.

YES!!!! Good news. Nojima is great at making believable settings. Really great news so long as he tones it down. :) much better than toriyama.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 11:26:49 PM
 Nojima has some duds you're right. But I think he has some great stuff under hid belt, notably FFX.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2013, 11:29:21 PM
Nojima makes cool stories full of interesting, likeable characters,  plot twists, emotional moments, and interesting worlds.  FFX & Crisis Core were really good (not counting the CC Genesis stuff) and probably have some of the most powerful moments in videogame writing with their endings.  He also did a good job with Last Ranker and a number of other rpgs.  He did good with KH1, and KH2 was interesting but ultimately failed.  But other than KH2 he's usually a good writer.

Toriyama is total shit.  He can write characters but he can't write a story for the life of him.  Jesus, after 3rd Birthday he should have been expelled from SE.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 11:29:40 PM
Also say what you want about Nojima but I just like how he handles world building and having you invested in characters.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
Nojima makes cool stories full of interesting, likeable characters,  plot twists, emotional moments, and interesting worlds.  FFX & Crisis Core were really good (not counting the CC Genesis stuff) and probably have some of the most powerful moments in videogame writing with their endings.  The characters are likeable and the worlds interesting.  He also did a good job with Last Ranker and a number of other rpgs.  He did good with KH1, and KH2 was interesting but ultimately failed.  But other than KH2 he's usually a good writer.

Toriyama is total shit.  He can write characters but he can't write a story for the life of him.  Jesus, after 3rd Birthday he should have been expelled from SE.

FFX ending is really powerful. I'm with Rahx. That made me shed a tear.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
I've only man tears 3 times in all of gaming:  FFX ending, Crisis Core ending, MGS3 ending.  Maybe Xenogears a little when I think back on the whole plot and how depressing and in the end satisfying it is, but I don't think any moments in XS/XG/XB were ever man tear worthy. 
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 11:32:44 PM
Nojima has some duds you're right. But I think he has some great stuff under hid belt, notably FFX.

i think, as you said, he's very good at creating fairly coherent worlds, and i do appreciate that.  but he really seems to have poor understanding of how real human beings interact with each other, and he loooooooves distinguished mentally-challenged plot twists.  he's also really bad for losing the thread and going up his own ass.

You're right. But I think he's been somewhat grounded since ffx. Ffcc didn't have much bad stuff. It was really only Genesis that was bad and I'm not sure how much of that was Gackts influence.

Also I like a cool interesting world more than a perfect plot. I also think Nojima is the best when it cones to crafting characters you love. Bad plot twists, warts and all. He's not perfect but for the most part I love his style. He's inspired I think. And knows how to draw you in.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 11:39:34 PM
FFX story and characters :heart
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Raban on June 14, 2013, 11:58:20 PM
dat MGS3 ending :'(
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 15, 2013, 03:09:19 AM
Surprisingly, Himuro, it is fucking possible to like FFXIII and a good chunk of the fanbase still does.

Very glad to be hearing positive impressions of the Lightning Returns demo. :)
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2013, 03:18:17 AM
I like XIII too. I like every FF main series entry. However, I hold no quarter in regards to XIII's mediocrity.

In any case I'm no longer interested in talking about that boring slog of a game. Lots of good news on the XV front. No reason to bring up XIII.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: PigSpeakers on June 15, 2013, 10:38:02 PM
I like XIII too. I like every FF main series entry. However, I hold no quarter in regards to XIII's mediocrity.

In any case I'm no longer interested in talking about that boring slog of a game. Lots of good news on the XV front. No reason to bring up XIII.

IIj was weird. I didn't like it, but I did beat it. Music was good though. All of it was really depressing, like a Cure album.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2013, 10:44:54 PM
FFII is weird. Yes.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Diunx on June 16, 2013, 10:38:25 AM
can totally see tears being shed at MGS3's amazing ending, but FFX? gtfo cigarros!
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2013, 10:45:52 AM
can totally see tears being shed at MGS3's amazing ending, but FFX? gtfo cigarros!

Tidus sacrifices himself, reconciles himself with his father (and gives him a high five in the far plane aka heaven), Yuna puts on a brave face, addresses all the people of their victory but to never forget the sacrifices. Considering that the entire basis of Yuna's journey is that she has to sacrifice herself to save the world, the fact the man she loved did it in her stead was a beautiful cap off. FFX has one of gamings greatest endings and it illogical to say you're a cigarillo if you're emotional towards one ending but THAT OTHER ENDING is totally okay. The truth is that we are all fegs. JOIN US, DIUNX.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2013, 10:56:18 AM
FFII is weird. Yes.

ff2 is used in guantanamo as a last resort to break people
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2013, 11:10:09 AM
I dunno. I really like the dialogue system also it is the first story based FF, so it is interesting to see how everything is created. Also, FFII nes is the only bad version. FFII psx and gba fares much better. In fact FFII gba is a stark contrast to FFI gba. FFII psx and gba are much better balanced and are great games. Being an FF1 vet I found Advance the worst version and beat it without dying once (well, I died on Garland but just once). Horrible. I still think FF ORIGINS is the definitive nes FF experience.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2013, 11:55:07 AM
oh look, a new dungeon
oh look, a thousand doors in this hallway
oh look, all but one lead nowhere and have 2 forced battles each
oh look, im turning this game off because its a boring piece of shit

ff2 gba is the only playable one because of quicker leveling, but the game is all dungeons and they are all terrible so :trash is where this game goes
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: tiesto on June 16, 2013, 06:00:10 PM
FF2 is not very fun to play at all but it had some cool ideas. I liked the storyline and the nonlinearity, absolutely hated the dungeon design (lots of doors that would lead to nothing but a forced encounter) and busted leveling-up system. 3 was definitely the best of the 8 bit FF games by faaaaaaar.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 28, 2013, 06:27:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YL-oxf6tvc

Himu, explain this.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 06:27:47 PM
:obama

I'd give him a hug
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 28, 2013, 06:29:28 PM
His KH3 reaction  :rofl
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 28, 2013, 07:46:54 PM
I really need to stop visiting anime fourms.

Apparently it's a terrible thing this game so far only has male party members. That the absence of "cute girls" means it's a Fujoshi whatever game. That it sucks that you can't make your party a harem of cute girls.

I really don't get it. I've really never looked at these games as anything like that.

Also, apparently it's also anti-feminism or nonsense now. It's trying to appeal to western gamers because it has not female characters.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 28, 2013, 07:57:25 PM
I believe the 1st part because it's a usual trend in animu/game and Japanese TV/music etc.

As for the 2nd, I don't think Japan give a single fuck about this feminism bullshit going on with the western video games media.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Akala on June 28, 2013, 08:03:43 PM
can totally see tears being shed at MGS3's amazing ending, but FFX? gtfo cigarros!

Tidus sacrifices himself, reconciles himself with his father (and gives him a high five in the far plane aka heaven), Yuna puts on a brave face, addresses all the people of their victory but to never forget the sacrifices. Considering that the entire basis of Yuna's journey is that she has to sacrifice herself to save the world, the fact the man she loved did it in her stead was a beautiful cap off. FFX has one of gamings greatest endings and it illogical to say you're a cigarillo if you're emotional towards one ending but THAT OTHER ENDING is totally okay. The truth is that we are all fegs. JOIN US, DIUNX.

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wasn't he like dead the whole time or something? didn't that kind of negate the sacrifice? been a long time.
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Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 28, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
can totally see tears being shed at MGS3's amazing ending, but FFX? gtfo cigarros!

Tidus sacrifices himself, reconciles himself with his father (and gives him a high five in the far plane aka heaven), Yuna puts on a brave face, addresses all the people of their victory but to never forget the sacrifices. Considering that the entire basis of Yuna's journey is that she has to sacrifice herself to save the world, the fact the man she loved did it in her stead was a beautiful cap off. FFX has one of gamings greatest endings and it illogical to say you're a cigarillo if you're emotional towards one ending but THAT OTHER ENDING is totally okay. The truth is that we are all fegs. JOIN US, DIUNX.

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wasn't he like dead the whole time or something? didn't that kind of negate the sacrifice? been a long time.
[close]

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He was a dream, but he still sacrificed his existence, which was real, for Yuna and the greater good.
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We need more hero/playable character deaths in rpgs, western or eastern.  If it's too much it just feels cliche, but these days everything's way too safe and everyone's invincible because "omg sequel possibility".  I miss FFT "oh fuck, everyone dies in the end" endings once in a while that used to surprise.

I guess FFXIII sort had some of that stuff in the end but the story was so trash no one cared. 


We also just need more AWESOME leads who are likeable charismatic people.  Zach in Crisis Core was ridiculously well written to be an awesome dude which makes the story more tragic.  Same with like Yuri in Shadow Hearts 1&2.  Or Yuri in Vesperia (though he was a bit emo especially in the 2nd half).  Too many rpg leads are shitty unlikeable characters these days...

I like Noctis though so far.  Seems like he's having fun with his bros, and knows how to dress himself properly and spends good time on his hair product...oh wait.  I dunno, seems more hopefully than "I HAVE NO EMOTION AND I JUST ALWAYS LOOK PISSED OFF" Lightning or "I'm happy and giddy and have about as much depth as a 3 year old" Sora.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 28, 2013, 08:28:17 PM
Why are people hyped for this when everyone seems to hate FF XIII?

Completely different teams.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 28, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
can totally see tears being shed at MGS3's amazing ending, but FFX? gtfo cigarros!

Tidus sacrifices himself, reconciles himself with his father (and gives him a high five in the far plane aka heaven), Yuna puts on a brave face, addresses all the people of their victory but to never forget the sacrifices. Considering that the entire basis of Yuna's journey is that she has to sacrifice herself to save the world, the fact the man she loved did it in her stead was a beautiful cap off. FFX has one of gamings greatest endings and it illogical to say you're a cigarillo if you're emotional towards one ending but THAT OTHER ENDING is totally okay. The truth is that we are all fegs. JOIN US, DIUNX.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
wasn't he like dead the whole time or something? didn't that kind of negate the sacrifice? been a long time.
[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)
He was a dream, but he still sacrificed his existence, which was real, for Yuna and the greater good.
[close]

We need more hero/playable character deaths in rpgs, western or eastern.  If it's too much it just feels cliche, but these days everything's way too safe and everyone's invincible because "omg sequel possibility".  I miss FFT "oh fuck, everyone dies in the end" endings once in a while that used to surprise.

no,no,no,no

you can do so much with an RPG overframe and you want more melodramatic game a-la tales and nier? kill a hero so the party can mourn it for the remaining 2 hours? fuck no! and a double middle finger to you when you kill a character just to have him magicaly resurrect 5 minutes later

 if anything we need in the following order

1) actual rpg
2) actual rpg that aren't made by image epoch and/or idea factory
3) games that break from the stupid baggage of trope that jrpg carry around like a chainball
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 09:57:00 PM
I really need to stop visiting anime fourms.

Apparently it's a terrible thing this game so far only has male party members. That the absence of "cute girls" means it's a Fujoshi whatever game. That it sucks that you can't make your party a harem of cute girls.

I really don't get it. I've really never looked at these games as anything like that.

Also, apparently it's also anti-feminism or nonsense now. It's trying to appeal to western gamers because it has not female characters.

yeah it's pretty distinguished mentally-challenged. This entire FF generation has been based around female characters. Shut the fuck up plz.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 10:01:27 PM
can totally see tears being shed at MGS3's amazing ending, but FFX? gtfo cigarros!

Tidus sacrifices himself, reconciles himself with his father (and gives him a high five in the far plane aka heaven), Yuna puts on a brave face, addresses all the people of their victory but to never forget the sacrifices. Considering that the entire basis of Yuna's journey is that she has to sacrifice herself to save the world, the fact the man she loved did it in her stead was a beautiful cap off. FFX has one of gamings greatest endings and it illogical to say you're a cigarillo if you're emotional towards one ending but THAT OTHER ENDING is totally okay. The truth is that we are all fegs. JOIN US, DIUNX.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
wasn't he like dead the whole time or something? didn't that kind of negate the sacrifice? been a long time.
[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)
He was a dream, but he still sacrificed his existence, which was real, for Yuna and the greater good.
[close]

We need more hero/playable character deaths in rpgs, western or eastern.  If it's too much it just feels cliche, but these days everything's way too safe and everyone's invincible because "omg sequel possibility".  I miss FFT "oh fuck, everyone dies in the end" endings once in a while that used to surprise.

I guess FFXIII sort had some of that stuff in the end but the story was so trash no one cared. 


We also just need more AWESOME leads who are likeable charismatic people.  Zach in Crisis Core was ridiculously well written to be an awesome dude which makes the story more tragic.  Same with like Yuri in Shadow Hearts 1&2.  Or Yuri in Vesperia (though he was a bit emo especially in the 2nd half).  Too many rpg leads are shitty unlikeable characters these days...

I like Noctis though so far.  Seems like he's having fun with his bros, and knows how to dress himself properly and spends good time on his hair product...oh wait.  I dunno, seems more hopefully than "I HAVE NO EMOTION AND I JUST ALWAYS LOOK PISSED OFF" Lightning or "I'm happy and giddy and have about as much depth as a 3 year old" Sora.

Haven't liked a jrpg lead since Yuri in ToV. jrpg leads suck balls now.

can totally see tears being shed at MGS3's amazing ending, but FFX? gtfo cigarros!

Tidus sacrifices himself, reconciles himself with his father (and gives him a high five in the far plane aka heaven), Yuna puts on a brave face, addresses all the people of their victory but to never forget the sacrifices. Considering that the entire basis of Yuna's journey is that she has to sacrifice herself to save the world, the fact the man she loved did it in her stead was a beautiful cap off. FFX has one of gamings greatest endings and it illogical to say you're a cigarillo if you're emotional towards one ending but THAT OTHER ENDING is totally okay. The truth is that we are all fegs. JOIN US, DIUNX.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
wasn't he like dead the whole time or something? didn't that kind of negate the sacrifice? been a long time.
[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)
He was a dream, but he still sacrificed his existence, which was real, for Yuna and the greater good.
[close]

We need more hero/playable character deaths in rpgs, western or eastern.  If it's too much it just feels cliche, but these days everything's way too safe and everyone's invincible because "omg sequel possibility".  I miss FFT "oh fuck, everyone dies in the end" endings once in a while that used to surprise.

no,no,no,no

you can do so much with an RPG overframe and you want more melodramatic game a-la tales and nier? kill a hero so the party can mourn it for the remaining 2 hours? fuck no! and a double middle finger to you when you kill a character just to have him magicaly resurrect 5 minutes later

 if anything we need in the following order

1) actual rpg
2) actual rpg that aren't made by image epoch and/or idea factory
3) games that break from the stupid baggage of trope that jrpg carry around like a chainball

Who said kill a hero so the party can mourn for two hours? We're talking about leads dying in endings. :beli The only jrpg I can think of where the lead dies midway was Chrono Trigger, and you can revive Crono. There's also Serph in DDS2, but he gets revived as well, in a way. Please stand on the other side of the room whlie Bebpo and I get our geek on.

(http://i.imgur.com/s001joX.gif)
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 10:07:22 PM
Jesus Christ I'm amazed at Magus' lack of reading comprehension in that post. Amazed so hard that I have to triple post, seriously. Bebpo is talking about characters dying in ENDINGS. Magus brings up characters being revived five minutes later or being mourned for hours on end. Good lord, this must be a goddamn language barrier.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 28, 2013, 10:15:52 PM
You don't need to kill the main lead to make your story worth a shit. Just give it to a decent writer for once instead of animu wannabe writers.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 10:19:52 PM
Another person who mis-read Bebpo's post. Bebpo didn't say killing your characters is required to have a story worth a shit. Not every jrpg has to have a lead dying, however, it's nice to be surprised every now and then. In FFT, it felt like no one was safe. In FFX, Tdius sacrifies himself for love and to conquer his fears of his father. In Digital Devil Saga 2, I was on the eduge of my seat. Characters dying isn't a necessity, however it is a wonderful way to show how close a bond the player has with the characters and characters shouldn't feel like they're unbeatable super heroes. Bebpo continues by saying the larger problem ISN'T MAIN CHARACTERS DYING but MAIN CHARACTERS BEING BADLY WRITTEN.

Bebpo basically highlighted that XIII's cast was so shitty, that the entire party died and no one gave a shit. Which says a lot about its cast.

Jesus Christ.

You don't need to kill the main lead to make your story worth a shit. Just give it to a decent writer for once instead of animu wannabe writers.

(http://i.imgur.com/mnPjY.png)
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 28, 2013, 10:23:38 PM
I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with Beps. Just throwing my 2 cents.

But go ahead, be the little angry himu.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
You weren't disagreeing or agreeing with Bebpo, but you brought up one of the topics Bebpo addressed. Right.

What a wonderfully passive aggressive post.

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:umad?
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Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
Good.

I'll stay mad.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 28, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
You know what game had a good story? Planescape: Torment, which starred a protagonist who died over and over. :jawalrus
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 10:33:59 PM
Planescape :rejoice
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 10:34:54 PM
IT IS. :maf

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It's not :(
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Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 28, 2013, 10:43:12 PM
I'm never mad with any of my bore bros, himu. It's the internet and it's 6 am and can't sleep or fap for shit.

But really, the problem lies with letting old dev dinosaurs write the story instead of hiring competent writers. Lost Odyssey is a prime example of this: why oh why make these beautiful short stories only to let the Gooch write the main story AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 10:44:29 PM
I'm never mad with any of my bore bros, himu. It's the internet and it's 6 am and can't sleep or fap for shit.

But really, the problem lies with letting old dev dinosaurs write the story instead of hiring competent writers. Lost Odyssey is a prime example of this: why oh why make these beautiful short stories only to let the Gooch write the main story AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH

Tell it. TELL IT.

That made me angry beyond words. Lost Odyssey had the making of something special. Why couldn't he hire the writer who did the short stories to write the entire game? Is it hubris? Or what?
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: MCD on June 28, 2013, 10:47:28 PM
The Gooch's pride or maybe it was too expensive? I dunno.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rufus on June 28, 2013, 10:56:45 PM
All I remember are veiny tits and the two FFIV knockoff kids, which is also where the immortality story lost all of its appeal.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2013, 11:52:02 PM
Not all of them are bishie. They've got a dude with a scar and a beard. :bow
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Rufus on June 28, 2013, 11:58:36 PM
He'll be in his late twenties and everybody is going to call him old man in the game.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2013, 12:06:46 AM
:lol
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: Bebpo on June 29, 2013, 05:57:23 AM
Himu, I appreciate the support.  You'll always be my internet rpg buddy.   ;)

Magus is sorta, but he's kind of wtf sometimes so me & magus are more like crazy married people who have no idea wtf the other person is talking to and like the same things but still disagree and fight over everything.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY XV
Post by: magus on June 29, 2013, 07:11:58 AM
jesus christ himuro how does it feel to have sand in your vagina 24 hours on 24? eat a snicker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4lGtsTtlw

better?

and bebs all i was saying is that there is no reason to kill a character off other than for the sake of drama and rpg have plenty of that,in fact they have too much,way too much so saying that we need more dead characters is wrong no matter if it's in the ending,in the middle or in the beginning