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Title: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2013, 03:56:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad4v3VVlDUY

PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this

Discuss.  :-\
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: brob on September 08, 2013, 04:00:35 PM
My recommended videos are ruined now. :beli



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yh_7oAP-ic
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 08, 2013, 04:02:44 PM
Didn't Russel and his ex-wife buy a solid gold commode or something?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2013, 04:03:42 PM
This nicca posts the corniest on his facebook shit y'all

I think he posted that video before brob.

We need to find the most wtf conspiracy video.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
I'm just going to leave this here for yalls enjoyment

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/hebrew-israelite-videos.139449/

(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)
(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)
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(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)

:dead :deadpos
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
Beethoven is black? Wuuu

That coli thread hahahah
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 08, 2013, 04:08:43 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 04:11:20 PM
Beethoven is black? Wuuu

That coli thread hahahah
I don't know if you're aware of this, but whites are physically and mentally incapable of creating anything new or useful to the world. Everything they do or have done, has been stolen from other cultures. So of course beethoven was black.

King James was also Black, so was Yue Fei.
Yeah but that just means Beethoven was the original Elvis.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 04:13:37 PM
Holy shit six pages in that coli thread and its gone bananas
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 08, 2013, 04:15:11 PM
This just in Gutenberg was actually part black.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: brob on September 08, 2013, 04:19:39 PM
I'm really digging this coli thread. currently reading about how the white man is the devil and a lovely interpretation of the story of Esau (the first white devil? stay tuned!) using shutterstock images of white people.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2013, 04:24:16 PM
why are my people so superstitious :fbm
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 04:29:49 PM
Supreme mathematics  :lol

Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 08, 2013, 04:30:53 PM
Beethoven was pretty cool. I bet he could've been black if he set his mind to it.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2013, 04:31:02 PM
why are my people so superstitious :fbm
Drowning men clutch at straws
(http://i.imgur.com/ifhcrI2.png)

Maurice and I can swim. (http://i.imgur.com/bnZ0Tw4.gif)
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 08, 2013, 04:31:56 PM
"The feminization of black men" thing has been a trending topic amongst the 5%ers who congregate my barbershop. Same dudes who make sure their waves are 100% right, wear matching clothes, have to wear spotless shoes at all times...complaining about the white man turning our black brothers into bitches.

 :comeon
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 04:34:53 PM
Beethoven was pretty cool. I bet he could've been black if he set his mind to it.
Maybe if he went blind instead of deaf.


"The feminization of black men" thing has been a trending topic amongst the 5%ers who congregate my barbershop. Same dudes who make sure their waves are 100% right, wear matching clothes, have to wear spotless shoes at all times...complaining about the white man turning our black brothers into bitches.

 :comeon
Only women buy jordans, real men buy expensive euro sneakers.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2013, 04:37:16 PM
"The feminization of black men" thing has been a trending topic amongst the 5%ers who congregate my barbershop. Same dudes who make sure their waves are 100% right, wear matching clothes, have to wear spotless shoes at all times...complaining about the white man turning our black brothers into bitches.

 :comeon

Haha!

Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: brob on September 08, 2013, 04:38:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DSwG4KY.jpg)

Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 08, 2013, 04:43:50 PM
"The feminization of black men" thing has been a trending topic amongst the 5%ers who congregate my barbershop. Same dudes who make sure their waves are 100% right, wear matching clothes, have to wear spotless shoes at all times...complaining about the white man turning our black brothers into bitches.

 :comeon

Tell them they're the fruitiest looking motherfuckers on the block and need to shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2013, 04:47:50 PM
Post more funny black conspiracies
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 04:51:03 PM
These coli dudes are asking god to smite each other now. Can't tell if srs or not.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 05:00:28 PM
Post more funny black conspiracies
Not black, but great

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-my-8-year-old-neice-tells-me-that-her-school-gives-her-fluoride-pills.141528/page-4
Haha oh man
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 08, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
What about the theory that white people put something that repels black people from mayonnaise, thus making sure we get all of that deliciousness to ourselves?

 :hans1
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 08, 2013, 05:10:08 PM
What about the theory that white people put something that repels black people from mayonnaise, thus making sure we get all of that deliciousness to ourselves?

 :hans1

It was only to get back at black people for stealing fried chicken and watermelon from us.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Diunx on September 08, 2013, 05:18:03 PM
:dead
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 05:21:29 PM
Colonel sanders is white tho :yeshrug
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 08, 2013, 05:27:40 PM
What about the theory that white people put something that repels black people from mayonnaise, thus making sure we get all of that deliciousness to ourselves?

 :hans1

It was only to get back at black people for stealing fried chicken and watermelon from us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon

Quote
Watermelon is thought to have originated in southern Africa, where it is found growing wild. It reaches maximum genetic diversity there, with sweet, bland and bitter forms. In the 19th century, Alphonse de Candolle[1] claimed the watermelon was indigenous to tropical Africa.[2] Though Citrullus colocynthis is often considered to be a wild ancestor of watermelon and is now found native in north and west Africa, it has been suggested on the basis of chloroplast DNA investigations that the cultivated and wild watermelon diverged independently from a common ancestor, possibly C. ecirrhosus from Namibia.[3]

Evidence of its cultivation in the Nile Valley was found from the second millennium BC. Watermelon seeds have been found at Twelfth Dynasty sites and in the tomb of Pharaoh Tutankhamun.[4] Watermelon is also mentioned in the Bible as a food eaten by the ancient Israelites while they were in bondage in Egypt.[5]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_chicken#History

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A number of West African cuisines featured dishes where chicken was fried, typically in palm oil, sometimes having been battered before. These would be served on special occasions in some areas, or sometimes sold in the streets as snacks in others.[6][7][8] This provided some means of independent economy for enslaved and segregated African American women, who became noted sellers of poultry (live or cooked) as early as the 1730s. Because of this and the expensive nature of the ingredients, it was, despite popular perception, a rare and special dish in the African-American community.[9]

(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/5I5s8.png)

This just proves how deep the conspiracy goes.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 08, 2013, 05:35:56 PM
Did they talk about how black people traveled to the Americas 2000 years ago?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2013, 05:37:28 PM
What about the theory that white people put something that repels black people from mayonnaise, thus making sure we get all of that deliciousness to ourselves?

 :hans1
This theory has been debunked.

(http://blogchef.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/coleslaw_1.jpg)

Coleslaw fucking sucks.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Big Barry Jazz on September 08, 2013, 05:45:21 PM
Beethoven is black? Wuuu

That coli thread hahahah

Sure. So was Shakespeare, Mozart, and most the english aristocracy back in the day. Lincoln is still up for debate.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=990_1325854792
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 08, 2013, 05:56:15 PM
KFC is garbage.

My mom used to work there, making minimum wage, supporting my sister and I.  It was a nightmare to work there apparently and people believed working for McDonald's was a step up so whenever a vacancy popped up at McDonald's, every KFC employee would apply.  Pretty much every horror story regarding fast food would take place at KFC on a regular basis.  Unsurprisingly, the work atmosphere was just as good as their food there.  Of course, this was the early-mid 90s so maybe things improved since then but I haven't stepped into a KFC since.

The only thing I liked from KFC was garden rice, something they dropped about 20 years ago.  I thought that stuff was godly.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on September 08, 2013, 06:13:23 PM
• Thread starts with black conspiracies about the white man
• Debate ensues
• White men distract blacks with fried chicken talk

:obama  :whew
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 08, 2013, 06:15:39 PM
I think the important thing to take away from this thread is that KFC is garbage.

Popeye's Chicken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eating fried chicken at a chinese buffet >>>>>>>> KFC
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 08, 2013, 06:17:56 PM
I'm going to grab some Popeye's right now.  Spicy chicken legs :drool
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: brob on September 08, 2013, 07:13:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0GmhtPxyKM

really enjoying this. Kanye West selling his soul to the devil because of happy meal toys, pictures of Michael Jackson as a child making satanic hand gestures (do you see the 666 in the thumbnail?!), this youtube video uploaded by exposingthesatan really has it all
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: headwalk on September 08, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
the bigger news from this video is that christopher walken is actually black.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 08, 2013, 11:18:34 PM
Did they talk about how black people traveled to the Americas 2000 years ago?

"see this statue with african traits, which was found in a Native American temple? the big lips, big nose? clearly a black man traveled here first"

it's probably true...but who cares. One of the biggest things I remember my African American Studies class focusing on was the concept of vindication. Black men found America, black men ruled Egypt, etc...and the (European) white man hasn't given them credit. Sure it's shitty but what does that have to do with...you know, not getting important shit done in your own community? I couldn't care less about Columbus: what are you doing to address violence in your community, or after school programs for kids?

 My barber owns the shop that I go to. All the people who work for him are in their 30s, baller types. Some are 5%er types, and there are a bunch of customers who are like that. Meanwhile the owner is actually working to help the community, doing shit like teaching kids how to cut hair; that's a nice job to learn, I wish I had  learned when I was a teen, I would have had so much money. The 5%er dudes don't do shit but complain.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Rufus on September 09, 2013, 12:09:51 AM
Cutting hair actually gets you decent money in the US? It's one of the lowest paid jobs per hour over here in Germany.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 09, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
Not saying it's some great job, but for a young person? It's a solid job or side job. I salute teaching kids how to do constructive stuff/get paid.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Rufus on September 09, 2013, 02:22:27 AM
Just stumbled across this gif.
(http://i.imgur.com/OxCfD.gif)
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 02:32:17 AM
Beethoven is black? Wuuu

That coli thread hahahah

Sure. So was Shakespeare, Mozart, and most the english aristocracy back in the day. Lincoln is still up for debate.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=990_1325854792

these niccas hair

:holeup
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Yeti on September 09, 2013, 03:02:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/DkF0r7n.jpg)
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 03:04:56 AM
:dead
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Boogie on September 09, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
I'm just going to leave this here for yalls enjoyment

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/hebrew-israelite-videos.139449/

(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)
(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)
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(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)(http://i.minus.com/jb1rjtEvJ14yJu.jpg)

Saw those guys in Times Square when I was in NYC last year.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 09, 2013, 07:46:53 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/DkF0r7n.jpg)

 :tocry
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2013, 10:03:22 PM
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Billionaire Says "Black Women Are For Grown Ups"

This article was brought to my attention and I decided to share it with you all. More and more everyday billionaires are dating black women. While thousandaires and athletes have chosen to date "others" it seems that more and more wealth men (notice I didn't say rich) are dating women of color. Billionaire Ben Horowitz was said to have been quoted as saying  “Billionaires prefer black women, they are loyal and guard your interests. Black wives are for grown ups” which led me to research billionaire men dating black women. So don't worry women. Your skin may not be light enough to snag a rapper, but you can still snag a billionaire business man. Just remember that to attract a billionaire you have to be Educated, have you own career/interests and have ambition. No dumb door knobs over here ladies!

Check out some of the lucky ladies below!
http://www.balleralert.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2015113%3ABlogPost%3A1684312&commentId=2015113%3AComment%3A1684944&xg_source=activity#ixzz2edjpVHCK

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/billionaire-says-black-women-are-for-grown-ups.145224/

 :PP
spoiler (click to show/hide)
it's a fake quote
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Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 15, 2013, 03:20:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aTVl94wpAQ
 :sabu

Himu, explain.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2013, 07:24:58 PM
I don't know :lol
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
he sent me this today

https://www.facebook.com/DrMichaelSalla
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2013, 07:33:30 PM
:rofl

I didn't understand why his kid was arrested, and apparently put in handcuffs. Something school bus related?

Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2013, 11:54:22 PM
Remember that dude who posted that homosexual diatribe?

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Martin Luther King taught black people how to be good house niccas, post slavery... dont fight to establish your own shit. Then when we integrate instead of children being educated on who they are, instead of them receiving teaches from our own people WHO KNOW THE TRUTH AND STRUGGLE, we whine and bitch for them to go to white peoples school. Now black kids dont know who the fuck they are. NO BLACK INDIVIDUAL IN AMERICA HAS ANY ORIGINALITY. Majority of the things we do has been DONE by somebody else. niccas wanna be gansters, dick riding Italians. Black women want European grade hair, coochie riding white women. Then till this very damn day THE RICHEST nicca IN AMERICA DONT EVEN OWN HIMSELF. In order to be rich, you have to be the white man RICH nicca BITCH. Meaning no matter how much money you make YOU DONT OWN SHIT!! If America can dictate ANYTHING about your possessions YA ASS DONT OWN IT!!!

 :goty
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: chronovore on November 03, 2013, 07:11:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/DkF0r7n.jpg)

:larry
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2013, 05:02:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DkF0r7n.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/mGebYhV.png)
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on November 03, 2013, 05:30:34 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 27, 2013, 04:21:37 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/why-sharkeisha-is-trending-on-twitter
 :goty2
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 27, 2013, 04:27:51 PM
Bitch fuck up it was my grandma name
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
Dolphinquisha :rofl
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Steve Contra on November 27, 2013, 05:17:35 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/why-sharkeisha-is-trending-on-twitter
 :goty2
Please change Himu's name to Sharkeisha
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: chronovore on November 27, 2013, 05:57:51 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/why-sharkeisha-is-trending-on-twitter
 :goty2

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaF9YC1CAAA-e_S.jpg

:lol
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: fizzel on November 28, 2013, 12:32:01 AM
http://realhistoryww.com/

This site is amazing. Fucking albino's whitewashed everything!  :tocry
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Diunx on November 28, 2013, 08:54:09 AM
My grandma always told me not to trust Albinos.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2013, 04:43:21 PM
Dude sent me this video.

:rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fm-imJzms&feature=youtube_gdata_player

:rofl
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 10, 2013, 01:41:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEB29o_dgfY
:dead
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Diunx on December 11, 2013, 12:32:40 AM
I always wondered, is The RZA tonguetied?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 12:41:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEB29o_dgfY
:dead

AHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Diunx on December 12, 2013, 10:37:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exZwtu1lR0g

:dead
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on December 12, 2013, 10:56:17 AM
those guys are so corny

edit: oh, yelling slurs at passerby's. that'll get them.  :-\
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Sman on December 13, 2013, 12:33:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aTVl94wpAQ
 :sabu

Himu, explain.

She's strangely attractive. I'd commit racial treason with her with the most destructive biological weapon: white genitalia (her own words).
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 11, 2014, 03:42:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDdacE0kBo

is this Future Himuro?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2014, 08:49:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFZKdtSwRNs

:noah
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: nudemacusers on February 10, 2014, 08:55:44 PM
that cape with those shoes? :gurl
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 10, 2014, 09:18:27 PM
The aluminum in the chemtrails is lowering testosterone and making everybody gay.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 06, 2014, 04:19:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzuQC89kyiY
(http://i.imgur.com/qIRHMEM.png)
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Squiddy on July 06, 2014, 04:23:13 PM
The original irish were black?  :lol

Love the guy causally fishing out a list of "nations."
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2014, 04:35:15 PM
Well the Irish and black Americans do share a long history. Not sure bout my family tho because I have British ancestry but I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: chronovore on July 06, 2014, 06:49:30 PM
Well, inasmuch as humanity is thought to have flowed from Africa to the rest of the planet, so ostensibly we are all originally black. But I ain't going to wade through 15 minutes of Kodak lad's presentation to hear how the bible had determined what nations are OK or not.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 06, 2014, 07:31:07 PM
Quote
i agree it's not black it's a so called black its different shades of brown that gook don't know anything he's a mongoloid with slander eyes born of incest he has down syndrome and incest is heavy in Japan

 :uguu
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 06, 2014, 08:27:55 PM
Don't Asian people have "slanty eyes" due to having higher cheek bones? It has nothing to do with down syndrome lol. Besides, most down syndrome people aren't the product of incest.

Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Rufus on July 06, 2014, 08:39:35 PM
It's called epicanthic fold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicanthic_fold) and down syndrome people do have it, though it's just a feature they share with Asians. I take it that fool was implying that all Asians suffer from down syndrome or something. I can't watch this conspiracy theory shit, it's painful.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Kara on July 06, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
Lends new meaning to the term Black Irish, I'll say.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 06, 2014, 09:10:45 PM
The guy in the video is arguing "Chinese and Japanese" people have it due to their ancestors being involved in incest.

Black Israelites, Five Percenters, and a host of other smart-dumb negros use etymology to explain any and everything, and thus make leaps in logic that truly baffle the sane mind. The use of the word "mongoloid" and its origin has no bearing on the genetic history of Asian people. Likewise, the word "black" (which they claim is offensive) has no true bearing on the genetic nature of black people, their worth, etc. On one hand they argue the white man has poisoned the world with misinformation, on the other hand they use that very misinformation to somehow validate their arguments.

The western concept of "black" is completely different from the ancient African concept of it. "Black" was associated with power and beauty in ancient Egypt and other African nations, whereas the color white was associated with death or "the absence of life/light." It makes sense that a civilization would associate its racial traits or color with "good" - western culture does the exact same thing, with the color white being associated with purity, goodness, etc. And because we live in a society dominated by western, white culture it shouldn't be surprising that those are mainstream views.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2014, 09:12:23 PM
Chinese and Japanese eyes are really different.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Rufus on July 06, 2014, 09:16:12 PM
Lends new meaning to the term Black Irish, I'll say.
...That could very well have been the conspiratorial seed of this nonsense. :stahp
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 07, 2014, 08:42:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEgS2uDMEF4
:fbm
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Squiddy on July 07, 2014, 09:03:45 PM
What is "smart-dumb"?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 11, 2014, 08:01:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhW2LMcgw5M
:dead

HIMU PLS
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 11, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
No tea no shade, PopGAF.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
The entire thing is stupid because many gay terms were created and popularized by gay black men
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2014, 08:16:03 PM
Also, a lot of slang, like shade, were appropriated from the non-lgbt community due to exposure to shows and media like Drag Race.

So it's clearly a two street.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 11, 2014, 08:33:13 PM
The thing I don't understand is...why does she give a fuck. What harm is being done to her? Feminine gay dudes don't exclusively talk to black women like that...they talk to everyone like that.

There are major hurdles between the communities, although I feel like most of them are propagated by black people. Specifically the general resentment of gay people, whether it's born from religious sentiment or hyper masculinity. Or this ridiculous idea about culture appropriation. Gay people referencing the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s in no way "steals" or lessons that movement.

And on another note...can we stop listing various shit some black people do as "black culture?" Twerking isn't "black culture," it's an urban dance that some black people do. You would never hear someone argue racketeering is Italian culture - it's something a certain group of Italians, ie mobsters, participation in. I can't take her argument seriously due to this shit.

If you're tired of gay white dudes allegedly trolling you, go hang out with someone else. Go hang out with black guys or something...assuming you can find one.
(http://i.imgur.com/t6s2I0h.png)
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2014, 09:16:26 PM
Yeah, gay men do that to everyone. I don't get it. ??? The entire thing is something out of nothing.

And :tocry at your last sentence
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: toku on July 11, 2014, 10:42:52 PM
I had an immediate and violent reaction to that whit dudes face/haircut/everything.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 13, 2014, 04:10:58 PM
i am a fierce independent black woman, okurrr?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 13, 2014, 11:51:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xbp53necZA
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 14, 2014, 07:35:58 PM
(http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/twitterchat_tiffany_france.jpg?w=650)
http://newsone.com/3033468/youoksis-twitter-chat-street-harassment/

 :holeup
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 14, 2014, 09:02:34 PM
That isn't a conspiracy theory. It is something affects women daily.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 14, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
This thread has become a catch-all for black shit, so I figured I'd put it here. But if I were to bring conspiracy into it...SMH @ the idea that this is a "white feminist" ploy to "distract" black women from the REAL ISSUES: racial civil rights. What's up with people thinking that you can only think or believe one thing at a time? How the fuck does being a feminist take away from also advancing your race?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2014, 09:24:35 PM
What's up with people thinking that you can only think or believe one thing at a time? How the fuck does being a feminist take away from also advancing your race?

It's not that uncommon, sadly. See: brocialists, manarchists.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 14, 2014, 09:34:32 PM
This thread has become a catch-all for black shit, so I figured I'd put it here. But if I were to bring conspiracy into it...SMH @ the idea that this is a "white feminist" ploy to "distract" black women from the REAL ISSUES: racial civil rights. What's up with people thinking that you can only think or believe one thing at a time? How the fuck does being a feminist take away from also advancing your race?

I had no clue what you were talking about until I read the comments on that link you posted.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 14, 2014, 09:58:05 PM
I remember seeing Phonte say something like that on twitter a few months ago, shit just me want to jump out the window.
:tocry

Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Positive Touch on July 14, 2014, 10:12:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/R8P7VtL.jpg)

#relevant

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Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 14, 2014, 10:15:55 PM
Did they talk about how black people traveled to the Americas 2000 years ago?

"see this statue with african traits, which was found in a Native American temple? the big lips, big nose? clearly a black man traveled here first"

it's probably true...but who cares. One of the biggest things I remember my African American Studies class focusing on was the concept of vindication. Black men found America, black men ruled Egypt, etc...and the (European) white man hasn't given them credit. Sure it's shitty but what does that have to do with...you know, not getting important shit done in your own community? I couldn't care less about Columbus: what are you doing to address violence in your community, or after school programs for kids?



Did they teach you that Hannibal Barca was black? 
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 14, 2014, 11:01:12 PM
You mean John "Hannibal" Smith?  Everyone knows that dude was black in white face.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: PlayDat on July 16, 2014, 10:35:20 AM
The thing I don't understand is...why does she give a fuck. What harm is being done to her? Feminine gay dudes don't exclusively talk to black women like that...they talk to everyone like that.

There are major hurdles between the communities, although I feel like most of them are propagated by black people. Specifically the general resentment of gay people, whether it's born from religious sentiment or hyper masculinity. Or this ridiculous idea about culture appropriation. Gay people referencing the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s in no way "steals" or lessons that movement.

And on another note...can we stop listing various shit some black people do as "black culture?" Twerking isn't "black culture," it's an urban dance that some black people do. You would never hear someone argue racketeering is Italian culture - it's something a certain group of Italians, ie mobsters, participation in. I can't take her argument seriously do to this shit.

If you're tired of gay white dudes allegedly trolling you, go hang out with someone else. Go hang out with black guys or something...assuming you can find one.
(http://i.imgur.com/t6s2I0h.png)

To me the article read like it was more in opposition to gay white men and others pulling the whole "I'm a strong black woman" thing as though black women's identity is a costume you can throw on whenever you're feeling sad.  Saying such racist things is harmful to black women in a lot of ways.  The CNN piece focused a lot more on cultural appropriation, which I personally don't feel as strongly about.  The line between participation and appropriation seems razor thin.  Black people come up with a lot of cool shit, so it's understandable that others would also like to enjoy our stuff.   

I don't really have a counter to the bolded.  I'm reluctant to call racketeering a part of Italian culture only because viewing any kind of criminal activity as one of a group's defining characteristics is obviously pretty racist  (Italian is more of a nationality than a race, but you get what I mean).

I'm curious as to why you're so resistant to accepting twerking as part of black culture though.  Your comparison to racketeering above as well as previous comments on GAF tell me that you really don't like that idea.  I'll concede that "it's an urban dance that some black people do" isn't strong criteria for making it a part of black culture, but let's just say for the sake of argument that this is a good reason.  Is twerking such a negative thing to be associated with?  Is it something to be ashamed of?  What about sagging pants or AAVE?  Those fall under the same category of "things associated with blackness that some black people wish weren't."

Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 01:11:50 PM
What is this about strong black women when feeling sad? I didn't get that in the article at all?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 01:59:45 PM
White people talking Malcolm x is one the sure fire ways to raise my blood pressure.

http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2auk1o/til_that_magneto_was_based_on_malcolm_x_and_prof

No, you fucks. Malcolm did not advocate violence. He didn't say kill all white people. He didn't say kill any white people at all. He said to arm ones self and strengthen our communities against attacks by the police, kkk, and terrorists. When you have fuckers burning down churches with little girls in them, dudes beating to death a little boy who just checked out a white woman, men in sheets burning houses downs and burning crosses, and police using attack dogs and fire hoses on the general populace for just existing, you best know we are going to protect our families and children.

White people talking bad about Malcolm X's legacy as a racist is one of the best ways to make me want to slap the spit out of someone and I'm usually delicate as a flower.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: PlayDat on July 16, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
What is this about strong black women when feeling sad? I didn't get that in the article at all?

The article does take to task gay white men who like to call themselves black women, but you're right it doesn't specifically mention anything about feeling sad.  I only added it because the times I've personally seen people call themselves black women, it was used as form of self empowerment.  That if I'm as strong as a black woman I can overcome anything.  This kind of usage might not be as widespread so feel free to disregard that part of the sentence if that's the case.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 02:58:39 PM
#MelaninThread

You proposing a name change?
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
What is this about strong black women when feeling sad? I didn't get that in the article at all?

The article does take to task gay white men who like to call themselves black women, but you're right it doesn't specifically mention anything about feeling sad.  I only added it because the times I've personally seen people call themselves black women, it was used as form of self empowerment.  That if I'm as strong as a black woman I can overcome anything.  This kind of usage might not be as widespread so feel free to disregard that part of the sentence if that's the case.

Oh, the CNN article itself. I'll have to read it again.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2014, 03:13:21 PM
First you want us to get rid of segregation and now you want to segregate into your own threads. Make up your minds, jeez.

Malcom X and the Black Panthers founders of the KNOCKOUT GAME are why we need strong inner city gun control only.

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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Your Stalker on July 16, 2014, 03:18:15 PM
We have no problems with cacs posting in this thread. Just don't do any of your cactivities in here.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on July 16, 2014, 03:23:39 PM
What if a brownie does a cactivity?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 03:27:36 PM
(http://newsetcblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/spit-drink1.gif?w=700)

JESUS CHRIST. From 1 to 11.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2014, 03:27:43 PM
We have no problems with cacs posting in this thread. Just don't do any of your cactivities in here.
*reaches for hair when he's not looking*
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on July 16, 2014, 03:27:44 PM
What if a brownie does a cactivity?

It means you're a tapdancing coon obviously. I tend to think of you that way based on your self-hating comments. I'd also put Oblivion in that category.

But how can one be non-black and a coon?
We need a new term for our peoples brehs
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 03:31:08 PM
Can we not have coon talk :tocry It divides us!
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: nudemacusers on July 16, 2014, 03:40:11 PM
*drives without his wallet on him all over this thread*
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 16, 2014, 03:48:34 PM
What kind of sheltered cretin doesn't know that Magneto vs. Xavier is an abstraction of Malcom X vs. Dr. King? I probably call too many things axiomatic, but I feel like there really aren't many things more axiomatic than this. Doesn't Magneto even say, "by any means necessary," in one of the FoX-men flicks?

To borrow from Enoch Thompson, "Read a fucking [not comic] book." :snoop
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 03:51:03 PM
A big problem with the Malcolm analog with Magneto is that people always forget the former part of Malcolm's quote. "We will DEFEND our rights by any means necessary." Malcolm and Magneto's comparisons are so off in terms of basic philosophical grounds, it's not even funny. So it's really not odd that someone wouldn't find the comparison obvious, if they actually did what you said, and read a fucking book. In particular, if one read the Autobiography of Malcolm X, the Magneto comparison becomes that much more silly. If Magneto is a comparison for Malcolm X, they have taken Malcolm's words and fitted it on the most extreme opposite imaginable. Magneto is, in many ways, how Malcolm's opponents who do not understand Malcolm's words perceive Malcolm X to be: an extremely violent man bent on killing white people. When he never suggested a thing. Ever.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 16, 2014, 04:15:34 PM
An abstraction isn't a metaphor. It often treads close to / steps over into straw man.

I find it a problematic abstraction for the reasons you described and others I don't feel it's relevant for me to share, but I didn't feel it was my place to label it as such itt.

Great post (point of disagreement aside).
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on July 16, 2014, 04:15:52 PM
If you go by the modern definition of 'defend' he very well might be. :shaq2
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 04:30:19 PM
An abstraction isn't a metaphor. It often treads close to / steps over into straw man.

I find it a problematic abstraction for the reasons you described and others I don't feel it's relevant for me to share, but I didn't feel it was my place to label it as such itt.

Great post (point of disagreement aside).

It becomes a problem when people cite Malcolm's legacy at its most reductionist. But after all, in this case, we are talking about comic books and comic books need super villains. But Malcolm X is not a villain, hence the problem.
Title: Re: PD: that black conspiracy theorist who told me Beethoven was black sent me this
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 16, 2014, 04:56:59 PM
The thing I don't understand is...why does she give a fuck. What harm is being done to her? Feminine gay dudes don't exclusively talk to black women like that...they talk to everyone like that.

There are major hurdles between the communities, although I feel like most of them are propagated by black people. Specifically the general resentment of gay people, whether it's born from religious sentiment or hyper masculinity. Or this ridiculous idea about culture appropriation. Gay people referencing the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s in no way "steals" or lessons that movement.

And on another note...can we stop listing various shit some black people do as "black culture?" Twerking isn't "black culture," it's an urban dance that some black people do. You would never hear someone argue racketeering is Italian culture - it's something a certain group of Italians, ie mobsters, participation in. I can't take her argument seriously do to this shit.

If you're tired of gay white dudes allegedly trolling you, go hang out with someone else. Go hang out with black guys or something...assuming you can find one.
(http://i.imgur.com/t6s2I0h.png)

To me the article read like it was more in opposition to gay white men and others pulling the whole "I'm a strong black woman" thing as though black women's identity is a costume you can throw on whenever you're feeling sad.  Saying such racist things is harmful to black women in a lot of ways.  The CNN piece focused a lot more on cultural appropriation, which I personally don't feel as strongly about.  The line between participation and appropriation seems razor thin.  Black people come up with a lot of cool shit, so it's understandable that others would also like to enjoy our stuff.   

I don't really have a counter to the bolded.  I'm reluctant to call racketeering a part of Italian culture only because viewing any kind of criminal activity as one of a group's defining characteristics is obviously pretty racist  (Italian is more of a nationality than a race, but you get what I mean).

I'm curious as to why you're so resistant to accepting twerking as part of black culture though.  Your comparison to racketeering above as well as previous comments on GAF tell me that you really don't like that idea.  I'll concede that "it's an urban dance that some black people do" isn't strong criteria for making it a part of black culture, but let's just say for the sake of argument that this is a good reason.  Is twerking such a negative thing to be associated with?  Is it something to be ashamed of?  What about sagging pants or AAVE?  Those fall under the same category of "things associated with blackness that some black people wish weren't."

I'm not sure being sassy or acting like a "queen" is exclusive or owned by black women. A lot of the imitation that goes on seems to focus on diva behavior, and I'm not sure that's owned by anyone. Madonna was quite a diva in the 80s for instance. As was Grace Jones.

When I think of "black culture" I think of a variety of things, and dancing is one of those things. What I don't think of is twerking, which to me is just a stripper dance that has grown beyond its original southern origins. When someone twerks I don't automatically think of black people, nor do I get the argument that people are mad at Miley for "stealing" it. I want to ask these people "why the fuck do you care?" It's an urban dance, sure I get that. I'm just baffled at the idea that it is somehow "black culture" or something we need to prevent white people from doing.

Personally I don't dislike twerking. I think it's tacky, but it doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is the idea that one can experience black culture by going to a black strip club and seeing black women twerk. I would like to believe "black culture" is more than that, and considering I've been black all my life and twerking never played a role or had any influence on me...I can't help but shake my head. If you want to discuss how dancing, religion, soul food, masculinity, spoken word, etc are a part of the culture fine, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 16, 2014, 04:57:31 PM
Reductionist and utterly decoupled from the period from which it arose (cf. your great post about the times in which Malcolm X was a leader on the previous page). Anti-mutant stuff can get pretty bad in X-Men, but its presence in the universe is hardly used to hold up a mirror to white America's governance and extrajudicial violence.

Instead of holding up a mirror, they muddy up the Holocaust instead. As if one problematic foray wasn't enough for this character. (I think Magneto even says "never again" in X3?)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 05:05:39 PM
the whole holocaust thing in x-men...I just never saw that magneto being a holocaust survivor improved his character and severely limits him and makes the story more complicated than it should be.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 16, 2014, 05:13:15 PM
I had th first season of the X-Men cartoon on VHS as a kid and it includes a long interview with Stan and Jim Lee among other important comic figures. Stann specifically said he thought of Magneto as a Malcolm X type, and MLK as Xavier. I underwood the comparison as a kid and still do, with respect to Magneto's focus on separation from mankind, focus on superiority, etc. I have no problem with it nor so I feel it's a 1:1 comparison.

And now some people view the X-Men through the lense of homosexuality. It's just how people relate to certain things.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Positive Touch on July 16, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Malcolm X is the violent, angry white-hater, while MLK is the hand-holding, give-peace-a-chance type. I've heard countless older white people describe them as such. I know it's inaccurate, but it was clearly what they were going for magneto and prof x.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 05:23:29 PM
Another big problem I have is that no one talks about Malcolm X post-hajj. Like him rejecting NOI never happened. Also, did Malcolm really have a focus on superiority?  I didn't think so, but that's my interpretation. I've always interpreted it as black pride more than superiority.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 16, 2014, 05:58:23 PM
the whole holocaust thing in x-men...I just never saw that magneto being a holocaust survivor improved his character and severely limits him and makes the story more complicated than it should be.

And provides a lot of opportunities to really fuck up.

e.g. I think that Magneto disfiguring "never again" is one thing, and depending on your opinion of the Internet's Favorite Country possibly prescient, but when you couple it with the fact that he's a racist (speciesist?) on top of that it just gets :gurl. At least Asteroid M wasn't someone else's land I guess. :larry

e: There's also the kind of "get over it" undercurrent to the First Class movies which didn't really sit right with me, despite Fassie's pain on screen. :lawd
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 06:07:48 PM
How come people are fine with Jewish people having their own country but not with Black Americans separating ourselves from American society and making our own country? That was the crux of Malcolm's separatist argument. Is there something I'm missing?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 16, 2014, 06:18:58 PM
I know it's not exactly what you mean, but there is (was) Liberia.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2014, 08:27:13 PM
Liberia has one fucked up history. Reading the early history of it and then skipping ahead a hundred years is like some Mirror Universe shit.

I never understood why so much of the culture adopted the standard tribalism of Africa so quickly (while keeping all the bad parts of 19th century American politics) but in some weird insane manner involving their slave pasts and American ties and blah blah. They'd probably think Reverend Wright is a cac now, Obama definitely would be one.

Basically what I'm saying is that there aren't enough streets in Liberia to cross when I see anyone walking towards me.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 16, 2014, 09:45:23 PM
Not to make light of one-party rule, or its unfortunate prevalence in African history, but you've got to admit it's pretty out there to have had a country with one-party rule and that one party was a Whig party.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on July 17, 2014, 02:01:54 AM
Not just any Whig party, the TRUE Whig Party.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mandark on July 17, 2014, 04:14:29 AM
How come people are fine with Jewish people having their own country but not with Black Americans separating ourselves from American society and making our own country? That was the crux of Malcolm's separatist argument. Is there something I'm missing?

Lots of people aren't and weren't fine with it, particularly the people who were dispossessed and disenfranchised by the creation of Israel.  Many Americans are supportive because the US didn't have to give up anything, and the calls for a Jewish state didn't directly challenge the legitimacy of (white) American government or society.  It's a lot easier to be sympathetic to ethnic nationalism when you're carving up someone else's nation.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 17, 2014, 04:25:16 AM
Liberia is some crazy alternative history fanfic that somehow crossed over into actual history

edit: I'm pretty sure my posting this was a cactivity
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 17, 2014, 12:10:10 PM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/separate-and-unequal/

Jesus the emotional white dude "These children.  They are why we do this".  He totally was thinking "These *white* children"

"It's about bringing community back" *fondly remembers segregated times.

 >:(
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2014, 12:19:24 PM
How come people are fine with Jewish people having their own country but not with Black Americans separating ourselves from American society and making our own country? That was the crux of Malcolm's separatist argument. Is there something I'm missing?

Lots of people aren't and weren't fine with it, particularly the people who were dispossessed and disenfranchised by the creation of Israel.  Many Americans are supportive because the US didn't have to give up anything, and the calls for a Jewish state didn't directly challenge the legitimacy of (white) American government or society.  It's a lot easier to be sympathetic to ethnic nationalism when you're carving up someone else's nation.

I definitely didn't mean to imply that everyone is fine with the existence of Israel, because I'm not one of them. I just meant that, domestically, in the US, there seems to be plenty of support for Israel. But Malcolm's idea was vilified despite hundreds of years of slavery and lack of rights.

To be honest, though. We're getting besides the point and it was a rhetorical question anyways, because I already know the answer.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Steve Contra on July 17, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
Israel also supports a good many Americans particular eschatology, a black state does not.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 17, 2014, 05:18:28 PM
Immanentize the eschaton with your foreign policy brehs.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 18, 2014, 12:14:15 PM
How come people are fine with Jewish people having their own country

(http://i.imgur.com/GzCkvre.gif)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2014, 01:24:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FalsMnpqGM0

whole thing is interesting but skip to around 40sec for some self hating :snoop

I don't understand how someone raised by a black woman can hate on them so casually; sure maybe your mom was a piece of shit, but if she wasn't and you respect her...how can you make broad statements about black women being disgusting, unworthy, etc? It's self hate.

Imagine being a dark black chick hearing this shit from kindergarten to adulthood, and how it could easily warp your perspective of your self worth; I can't imagine dealing with that shit nonstop. A few weeks ago I was buying groceries and ran into a family friend; 50 something year old black lady.

Her: I heard you're dating Such-and-Such's daughter
Me: We're not dating, we're just friends
Her: Close friends from what I've heard
Me: I guess
Her: I've never seen her but I know she's beautiful. She got good hair like her dad?

For reference, her dad is mixed and rocks his hair like Rick Fox. I didn't know what to say...on one hand I wanted to just avoid further conversation, on the other I'm so tired of the "good hair" bullshit I often want to combat it. So I kinda just said "I don't know what that means" to which she replied "straight hair."
:beli

This chick was wearing a ridiculous weave. I'd imagine she's probably bald or balding due to decades of weaves and bad chemicals. Shit is just pathetic to me. Natural hair styles are awesome, I don't see why more black women aren't rocking them. Sure it takes more time/effort but even weaves take a lot of time and effort apparently. My ladyfriend just has a big curly hair style similar to this (http://31.media.tumblr.com/c6a6a8bb6b2f2a3de2da564ce6449b09/tumblr_mybfcghFmn1r927ioo1_500.jpg) but shorter. Actually many black women can do that (or something similar) with their hair and natural products. And if not there are a host of great hair styles available to do.

The casual way some black people shit on their own hair is just repulsive to me. And I hear it all the time since I have natural waves, which constantly causes annoying conversations or comments.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on July 20, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
The obsession with straight hair (or aversion to curly/wavey hair) feels like leftover societal conditioning back when racism was way more acceptable, yet I keep hearing about it every now and then on forums.

People are so fucked up
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 02:20:05 PM
Again, natural hairstyles have absolutely taken over, PD. Except with old folk. They still do that relaxer/weave shit because that's all they know.

And I thought we got past that in the 60's and 70's Squiddy with the black power/grow a fro movement. But then again maybe it was a fad. Everything the boomers did was a fad anyways. It certainly wasn't a fad for the men, because no black man conks today. Black men get the most boring hair cuts though so it even out.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2014, 02:26:54 PM
Nah black people never got over it, and it seems even worse now as "light skin v dark skin" is bigger than before, at least for black women. I don't think it matters for dudes. There was always a dark skinned dude winning for us out chea, from Jordan to Wesley Snipes to Idris Elba today. Dark chicks haven't really had that since Lupita guess...

Himu: I guess Houston is different. When I was in Texas I saw a lot of black women with natural hair styles, whereas here there are a lot of weaves or straightened hair.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
I just watched that yt and that nicca old. Of course he hating.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
Nah black people never got over it, and it seems even worse now as "light skin v dark skin" is bigger than before, at least for black women. I don't think it matters for dudes. There was always a dark skinned dude winning for us out chea, from Jordan to Wesley Snipes to Idris Elba today. Dark chicks haven't really had that since Lupita guess...

Himu: I guess Houston is different. When I was in Texas I saw a lot of black women with natural hair styles, whereas here there are a lot of weaves or straightened hair.

When I went to Atlanta it was the same thing. If you're talking about Detroit, do you think it's a socio-economical thing? Because I mostly know middle class blacks or hang in places where middle class blacks go. And Detroit has some of the harshest conditions in the country. If you're talking about Ann Arbor, I don't know what to say.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
I'm talking about Ypsilanti, which is like 10 minutes away from Ann Arbor. Lots of weaves, especially amongst younger and older women. The women in the middle, say 28-35, often have natural hair styles though. I rarely see a black women with a big curly hairdo outside of my ladyfriend.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 02:41:42 PM
One of my least favorite blacktivity is some older black person telling my afro is not "professional".

(http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/breakfast-club-bird.gif)

The Daily Show had an amazing segment on this the other day. They fucking killed it, I was rooting at my tv, got me all talking loud and making me sound like Black Stereotype #1 but it was worth it. :noah

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/p3pawq/operation-black-hair
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 02:42:28 PM
I'm talking about Ypsilanti, which is like 10 minutes away from Ann Arbor. Lots of weaves, especially amongst younger and older women. The women in the middle, say 28-35, often have natural hair styles though. I rarely see a black women with a big curly hairdo outside of my ladyfriend.

You...fucking...dick.

(http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/breakfast-club-bird.gif)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2014, 02:48:39 PM
I'm talking about Ypsilanti, which is like 10 minutes away from Ann Arbor. Lots of weaves, especially amongst younger and older women. The women in the middle, say 28-35, often have natural hair styles though. I rarely see a black women with a big curly hairdo outside of my ladyfriend.

You...fucking...dick.

(http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/breakfast-club-bird.gif)
:lol

27
:rejoice
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 03:00:54 PM
 :comeon

Don't test me. :gurl
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
This is my fave yt channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=544FfjS0_5c&list=UU5SfogUpv2zclQZypimvlGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLxLVSoBT_A&list=UU5SfogUpv2zclQZypimvlGg
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: nudemacusers on July 20, 2014, 08:30:38 PM
i understand your angst exodust but light skinned arab girls :lawd
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 24, 2014, 09:41:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoFkuO2gfas&list=PLh9mgdi4rNeyqnC6Gj5VCZERhhy9CC1S6&index=4

watching these now.  Pretty good.  The Yale history courses are great.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 24, 2014, 09:49:48 PM
The Daily Show had an amazing segment on this the other day. They fucking killed it, I was rooting at my tv, got me all talking loud and making me sound like Black Stereotype #1 but it was worth it. :noah

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/p3pawq/operation-black-hair

The URL gives it away.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on July 30, 2014, 09:23:29 PM
Sokath, his eyes uncovered!
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 30, 2014, 09:29:32 PM
TYRONE NIGGUMS CONFRONTS GMS

:dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 30, 2014, 09:31:41 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QtKdy-A7Mk8/TcIaFp7aJFI/AAAAAAAAAlo/okPZHIahsy4/s350/blk%2Bdemon%2Bjob%2Bcopy%2BAKA.jpg)

i'm done
:rofl

I've seen it all folks
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 30, 2014, 09:31:56 PM
Well I just put this computer on yet another surveillance list, thanks Esch.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2014, 09:40:46 PM

I believe that the so-called blacks(African American slaves), native Americans, and Latinos with Mayan decent make up the TWELVE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL. The people over there in Israel ARE NOT THE REAL "JEWS" but are converts to Judaism who's lineage go back to the Khazars aka the "EDOMITES". All so-called white people who's lineage go back to the biblical Edomites are the Damn "DEVIL"!!! Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the BLASPHEMY of them which say they are Jews, and ARE NOT, but are the synagogue of "SATAN". The solid purpose of this blog is to wake up the REAL "JEWS"(Israelites) in time for the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN which will begin after WORLD WAR III. Yahawashi(Jesus) will gather his Elect of Israel from the four corners of the earth and save them from the Nuclear Destruction and establish a new Kingdom on earth with KING DAVID that will last for Ages. Ahman. And all of the other nations that survive WORLD WAR III will be slaves in the Kingdom of Israel!!!(not just you Damn Edomites)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 30, 2014, 09:42:57 PM
As if ESAU's AmeriKKKan government is going to do anything to you, Khazar (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/troll.png)

Hey man, I only work in the mail room at Elders of Zion HQ.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 30, 2014, 09:51:08 PM
OH YES! Even the proud ass white man who is the GOD DAMN devil that the Bible speaks of.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2014, 09:52:28 PM
What if I don't want slaves because wanting slaves is stupid and barbaric? What do you think about that Yahawashi - so-called "Jesus"?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 30, 2014, 09:52:57 PM
Since black antisemitic conspiracy theory lags behind mainstream antisemitism ~70 years, I wonder how this lot will handle Fansadox's catalog when they discover it in... 2084?

(Don't web search Fansadox BTW.) :nsfanyone :nsfanyone :nsfanyone :nsfanyone :nsfanyone
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2014, 09:56:22 PM
:pacspit Fuck the Bible, how bout that Yahawashi?!
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2014, 10:22:15 PM
Pediphilia :dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on July 31, 2014, 12:52:15 AM
Man
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 31, 2014, 01:02:25 AM
Seems like the only unifying belief amongst multiple black idealogies is the hatred of black women.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2014, 01:09:49 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfnxgl_the-destruction-of-the-so-called-blackman_news

(http://i.imgur.com/1spCNWp.png)


:rofl

:rofl

:rofl

:rofl

:rofl

:rofl

:rofl

:rofl

:rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl


This so-called dude got a 14 minute so-called video of this so-called theory about so-called black men because emasculated.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on July 31, 2014, 01:12:35 AM
Seems like the only unifying belief amongst multiple black idealogies is the hatred of black women.

(http://i2.minus.com/iRKrRE0gfYP1E.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2014, 01:19:20 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1VU7hAhwsz8/T56KV6dnxBI/AAAAAAAAAvw/UYvLXlUyOhk/s330/jen%2Bscrafice%2Bcopy2.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LlJgnpZzvl8/TVTr6PT7AOI/AAAAAAAAAiQ/nzk0EBqS3Iw/s350/no%2Bcamp%2Btoday%2Bcopy.jpg)

Get that pedicure girl :punch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZDmhr-OfuA

:rofl

:rofl :rofl :rofl

This dude is a psychopath. Some of the images on his site are shockingly violent and he THIRSTS for it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2014, 01:25:16 AM
what i wanna know is how come jesus got a japanese name now :what
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2014, 01:30:01 AM
man black folk have the best conspiracy theories
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on July 31, 2014, 04:32:34 AM
what i wanna know is how come jesus got a japanese name now :what

Just a guess, but I think the i at the end is making... whatever noun that's meant to be an adjective.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
:yeshrug do what you like
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2014, 05:27:50 PM
What's your first name?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2014, 05:44:36 PM
I thought it was pronounced Kah-vee. I was sorta close? :stahp
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2014, 05:50:55 PM
I failed? :(

Well at least I know it's pronounced
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Steve Contra on August 01, 2014, 05:51:25 PM
Mispronouncing ethnic names for years after we know the real pronunciation is a pretty essential cactivity.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on August 01, 2014, 06:11:59 PM
Roji pronounced as Raw-chi?

I thought it was pronounced Kah-vee. I was sorta close? :stahp

Undercover cac.

Though, to be fair, I tend to prefer the "western" pronunciation of most brown names.

On top of that my dad was understandably upset (he named me) he's like "you don't like the name I gave you?" saddest thing is my name isn't even hard to say. It's two syllables yet people here have been struggling with it my whole damn life, so I switched to  my single syllable name.


Just fucking annoying, man.

Dude, my parents still won't let me down for changing my first name and turning my old first name into my middle name  :lol
You got away easy.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on August 01, 2014, 06:20:51 PM
For some reason I thought it was a J.

Rah-gi then?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2014, 06:30:57 PM
I got Rogi right!
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on August 01, 2014, 06:37:52 PM
that moment when you feel empathy for and have common ground with Squiddy :fbm
Hey, we're brown, you should have seen it coming.
I bet we also got relatives trying to come to the country because things are so bad back there, but having a hard time relating to them as a result of having grown up in a western society and the awkwardness that ensures.

Exodus knows what's up.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on August 01, 2014, 06:41:42 PM
You guys got easy mode enabled then  :lol
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on August 01, 2014, 07:02:06 PM
 :larry :yeshrug
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on August 01, 2014, 07:02:59 PM
Dp
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on August 01, 2014, 07:20:45 PM
well not really. my family on both sides were assembled ragtag from indentured slavery, and most of us at this generation are floating between cultures etc. For example you have a defined choice between being more like a kurd or being more like a swede.
Unfortunately your surroundings don't necessarily respect your choice. It's rarely malicious and kind of understandable, since assuming one way or the other can be problematic too. Can't win if you're obviously 'foreign' in some way.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on August 01, 2014, 07:53:26 PM
"American" doesn't have race strongly built into it and works well with a ddiverse heritage since America is young.
In the old world it is indeed as Rufus puts it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 01, 2014, 08:14:16 PM
I know an Iraqi guy who changed his first and last name shortly before getting a job with the big four. His dad refuses to speak with him now, but the rest of his family was more understanding. I can understand changing your first name, or using your middle name instead, but changing your last name too  :-\

More often than not the brown people I know will just go by an abbreviation of their first name. Like "Kish" instead of the longer version.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: nudemacusers on August 01, 2014, 08:35:23 PM
god bless you

/hands exodust some kleenex
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: nudemacusers on August 01, 2014, 08:39:35 PM
hey i get allergies this time of year too   :-[


azeed
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 01, 2014, 08:47:01 PM
I still go by Yazeed, cause it's not difficult at all to say and is a unique name that I've grown attached to. Some people call me Yahtzee, and i much prefer that over " oh it's yujeij! eugene!? ezekial?" where I can tell it's not trolling but they're trying to seem cultured in thinking I'm giving them a simpler way of saying it. It's Yazeed, pronounced ye-zeed, "ye" like in "yen", "zeed" like in "weed". Shit is simple as fuck.

Can I call you Eddy?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: nudemacusers on August 01, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
"Rick" seems more montana appropriate.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2014, 09:12:00 PM
How can they not know how to pronounce these names after meeting you once? I don't get it
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 01, 2014, 11:22:51 PM
I'm cac as shit and my family changed their names. :yeshrug

If it wasn't a pain in the ass I'd change it back to the original form.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2014, 11:32:18 PM
Take advantage of that Jewish name privilege breh
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 01, 2014, 11:51:35 PM
Drop the stein brehs
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 02, 2014, 01:34:33 AM
It's a -witz, gosh.

BTW Esch, if your sis gives you shit for using your middle name tell her that in my early 20s I used to alternate introducing myself to women with my first and middle name so that I could date 2 people at the same time and pretend someone was texting the wrong number.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 11, 2014, 05:21:38 PM
Tommy Sotomoyor and Tariq Nasheed going to war :heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HizNbqLukq4

two of the most loathsome men on youtube. Interesting that both love shitting on black women.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 12, 2014, 03:29:14 PM
fuck I'm at work. is it as bad as the Coli makes it sound?  :lol

Both are trash but Sotomoyor's hatred of black women is on another level. Dude is a huge coon.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2014, 01:23:57 AM
Check out this interview:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bryan-cainjackson/tariq-nasheed-on-the-curr_b_5670497.html

This article:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/12/men-without-a-country-mike-brown-trayvon-martin-my-father-and-me.html

Quote
I can pretend to belong here better than Trayvon and Mike Brown were ever given the chance to. But however hard I try, however well they treat me, I know this is not my country.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2014, 01:53:41 AM
Seriously the arthur chu article made me cry. I'm still crying. Everything about it resonates with me.

I've often made statements that I'd like to leave America, but honestly, where the fuck would I go? Even if I went to Canada, I wouldn't belong.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 14, 2014, 01:56:17 AM
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/america-is-not-for-black-people-1620169913

And yet, Obama is President. Article debunked.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2014, 02:37:52 AM
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/america-is-not-for-black-people-1620169913

And yet, Obama is President. Article debunked.

I've cried three times tonight now because of this article. Bed time.

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 14, 2014, 03:41:01 AM
Seriously the arthur chu article made me cry. I'm still crying. Everything about it resonates with me.

I've often made statements that I'd like to leave America, but honestly, where the fuck would I go? Even if I went to Canada, I wouldn't belong.

You'll probably never live to see the day (sorry) but there will be a day where there will be a place that if you could be there you would feel like you belong, or here will no longer make people feel like they don't belong.

It took the Jewish diaspora ~1,800 years to find a home (not that the finished product is something to laud per se), but now there are kids who grew up with Hebrew as their primary language which still blows my mind.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on August 14, 2014, 01:39:21 PM
http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2014, 01:40:43 PM
I never thought I'd ever write this but :bow RAND PAUL
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2014, 03:12:21 PM
We need a decisive list of black owned American businesses. Need to support our own and build up our communities and follow Asians lead.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 14, 2014, 03:14:56 PM
Himu let's start our own weave business and take the market from the Asians.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2014, 03:17:23 PM
Himu let's start our own weave business and take the market from the Asians.

Naw I'd jump on natural black hair products. Business is booming. Great time to get in. Being black owned? Even better.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Brehvolution on August 14, 2014, 03:31:45 PM
http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

Meh, talk is cheap. Maybe actually do something about it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
Black owned businesses:

App for black businesses in your area
http://aroundthewayapp.com/

Natural hair care companies
http://blackgirllonghair.com/2013/08/8-incredible-black-owned-natural-hair-businesses-to-support/

Black owned extensions site
http://www.xtasyhair.com/
 
Fashion:
http://harunintl.myshopify.com

Skincare/makeup:

Shea Moisture
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 14, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
Kinda highlights the difference between the GOP and Libertarians, and why one is doomed to fail.
Yeah  :fbm
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Brehvolution on August 14, 2014, 04:46:56 PM
http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

Meh, talk is cheap. Maybe actually do something about it.

Nevermind Rand. Someone is doing something about it.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/hank-johnson-stop-militarizing-law-enforcement-act
Quote

Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson proposed legislation on Thursday aimed at demilitarizing domestic police forces, amid national criticism of heavily armed cops going after protesters in Ferguson, Mo.

"Our main streets should be a place for business, families, and relaxation, not tanks and M16s," the Democratic congressman wrote in a "Dear Colleague" letter to members of Congress. "Unfortunately ... our local police are quickly beginning to resemble paramilitary forces."
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2014, 10:24:02 AM
Want to put money in my people more, so I'm reading up on supporting black businesses.

http://thegrio.com/2012/07/16/thegrios-guide-to-buying-black-online-to-harness-black-buying-power/
http://thegrio.com/2012/07/23/4-half-truths-about-black-owned-businesses-and-why-you-should-still-buy-black/
http://www.blackenterprise.com/small-business/4-ways-to-support-black-businesses/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 24, 2014, 07:13:58 PM
Want to put money in my people more, so I'm reading up on supporting black businesses.

http://thegrio.com/2012/07/16/thegrios-guide-to-buying-black-online-to-harness-black-buying-power/
http://thegrio.com/2012/07/23/4-half-truths-about-black-owned-businesses-and-why-you-should-still-buy-black/
http://www.blackenterprise.com/small-business/4-ways-to-support-black-businesses/

yes, harnessing black money will definitely save us. Like Atlanta.
(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/troll.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 24, 2014, 07:22:36 PM
Want to put money in my people more, so I'm reading up on supporting black businesses.

http://thegrio.com/2012/07/16/thegrios-guide-to-buying-black-online-to-harness-black-buying-power/
http://thegrio.com/2012/07/23/4-half-truths-about-black-owned-businesses-and-why-you-should-still-buy-black/
http://www.blackenterprise.com/small-business/4-ways-to-support-black-businesses/

yes, harnessing black money will definitely save us. Like Atlanta.
(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/troll.png)

Am I.... Missing something here?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 24, 2014, 07:36:36 PM
Atlanta has had a powerful black economic elite for quite some time yet there's been substantial black poverty in tandem with its existence.

Didn't know PD was so class conscious. :ussrcry
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 24, 2014, 07:43:51 PM
Atlanta has had a powerful black economic elite for quite some time yet there's been substantial black poverty in tandem with its existence.

Didn't know PD was so class conscious. :ussrcry

And himu laughed at the kareem abdul jabbar article I posted.

Himu :piss2
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 24, 2014, 08:04:14 PM
Atlanta has had a powerful black economic elite for quite some time yet there's been substantial black poverty in tandem with its existence.

Didn't know PD was so class conscious. :ussrcry

I get that, it just feels like a troll, the way he phrased it. As if putting money into black businesses is pointless. It felt like a non-sequitur that added nothing to the dialogue for the same of laughs. Hence my last post. I'm not sure what PD's goal of posting that was.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 24, 2014, 08:07:17 PM
Atlanta has had a powerful black economic elite for quite some time yet there's been substantial black poverty in tandem with its existence.

Didn't know PD was so class conscious. :ussrcry

And himu laughed at the kareem abdul jabbar article I posted.

Himu :piss2

It was a stupid article. To say that Ferguson is about class warfare and not race is fucking stupid. More than that, Atlanta has nothing to do with Ferguson.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 24, 2014, 08:10:25 PM
:piss2
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 24, 2014, 08:22:42 PM
I get that, it just feels like a troll, the way he phrased it. As if putting money into black businesses is pointless. It felt like a non-sequitur that added nothing to the dialogue for the same of laughs. Hence my last post. I'm not sure what PD's goal of posting that was.

I think he was trolling you but also reminding you that just buying black in and of itself isn't a constructive form of dual power, and certainly not a direct road to self-determination.

Did you read that interview with Chokwe Lumumba I PM'd you awhile back?

e: I'll just post it here for the folks at home. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/06/free-the-land/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 24, 2014, 08:38:50 PM
Who said buying black in itself will lead to self sustainability? I just mentioned I'd like to do it more. I didn't say doing it would lead to Little Africa's in every American city in 20 years time or anything. The fact that was even brought up doesn't feel remotely enlightening nor constructive.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 24, 2014, 08:50:04 PM
Well at the beginning of this conversation you said you wanted to buy from your own to build your own community (specifically following the lead of Asian communities in the United States), that implies a certain aspiration for self-sustainability to me, but I apologize for extrapolating your initial position into something much larger than you meant.

As for it not being constructive, it's worth considering that not everyone views themselves as being part of the same community, or that their membership in one community is more important to them than their membership in another.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 24, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
Putting money into black businesses is just one aspect of self sustainability, I'd think. It certainly isn't the only means. To say that it is naive and even perhaps petty.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 24, 2014, 09:23:32 PM
It was a troll to get a like from Esch, nevertheless the point is what Kara mentioned. I support black businesses - hell, my dad is a black business owner and I know many others. But the class system in the US isn't so easily overcome. Black businesses may make money in Atlanta, but ultimately there is still rampant poverty and the wealth has yet to trickle down.

So by all means support black businesses; I do too. But ultimately the best way to change situations in the black community is to take over communities by controlling positions of power. I'm not talking about showing up every four years to vote for a president or senator. I'm talking about school boards, municipal councils, sheriffs, judges, city managers, etc. Coming from Detroit, I've seen how many of these positions become little more than permanent positions for crooks who use their skin color as a shield from any criticism ("the suburbs don't like me, they want to take control of x"). We'd be a lot better off if these positions were held by people who took the job, and the community, seriously.

Community control. That goes beyond black businesses, because even black businesses act like corporations when they aren't kept in line. Which reminds me of Chokwe Lumumba, who didn't have the power to do everything he'd want but does have the ability to determine who can and can't do business in his town. And while I haven't read the interview Kara posted, the last time I heard him speak he mentioned that companies that don't hire within the community don't get contracts. That's key, and something that isn't happening in Atlanta which is basically just corporatism with a black face.

I was talking to a socialist friend a few years ago about some things, and he brought up Obama's OFA organizing group. After Obama won the election he didn't do anything with OFA; he used it as an organizing tool to get elected and then moved to Washington. My friend was never an Obama fan, but he noted how intrigued he was by the 2008 campaign, and how shocked he was that a legit community organizer like Obama would just discard such a valuable vehicle. Imagine if Obama had found a way to transition the various OFA branches into local activism, local elections, etc. All those people who were trained could have easily helped take over school boards across the country, among other things.

Change is local. We're seeing this in Ferguson right now, where you have a majority black city terrorized by a white power structure they could easily topple if they showed some passion in non-police shooting months. I look at that Antonio French guy, the local Alderman who is doing an amazing job organizing protests, and wonder how many young black people in St. Louis knew who he was before Brown got shot. Ferguson has 6 council members, and one is black. I'm not saying white people shouldn't hold positions of power in black cities, nor am I assuming those white council members are bad...I'm just saying that there would be more than one black council member if the population was more involved.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 25, 2014, 08:51:01 PM
Wanted to post this, decided it should obviously go in here so cac's won't see it:
http://library.sc.edu/digital/collections/greenbook.html

I was talking to a socialist friend a few years ago about some things, and he brought up Obama's OFA organizing group. After Obama won the election he didn't do anything with OFA; he used it as an organizing tool to get elected and then moved to Washington. My friend was never an Obama fan, but he noted how intrigued he was by the 2008 campaign, and how shocked he was that a legit community organizer like Obama would just discard such a valuable vehicle. Imagine if Obama had found a way to transition the various OFA branches into local activism, local elections, etc. All those people who were trained could have easily helped take over school boards across the country, among other things.
They didn't discard it, they just transitioned it into more beneficial purposes for the organizers...
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 25, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
What is the OFA; sounds like a terrorist group
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on August 26, 2014, 04:25:58 PM
http://ktla.com/2014/08/26/producer-in-beverly-hills-for-emmy-pre-party-mistaken-for-bank-robber-held-6-hours/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2014, 08:29:59 PM
What is the OFA; sounds like a terrorist group

Organizing For America, Obama's grass roots organization which he used to blow Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and Mitt Romney out the water. A lot of articles have been written about how it was discarded after the election, and then the admin tried to revive it with stupid shit. At one point they were trying to get people to organize around getting republicans to support Obama's plan to (essentially) cut social security. Stupid shit like that which missed the point of the organization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vldq1bi4GqI
she nails it

The reason the tea party is successful is because they pressure their elected officials to advocate for certain views. If that official doesn't adequately do it, they get shitcanned (see: Eric Cantor). The left still doesn't have anything like that, and instead is essentially set up like Dragonball: there are a bunch of balls in the air representing various liberal interests (women's rights, gay rights, voting rights, health care, labor, etc). As long as a representative has enough of those balls in his/her possession they're safe. Whereas the tea party doesn't give a shit that a "big government" republican is pro-life, pro marriage, anti-union, anti-global warming, etc: if they make the wrong vote on immigration or guns, they face rebellion. Yet democrats are fine letting the Chuck Shumers of the world exist despite being corporate whores because hey, at least he's right on gay marriage/abortion/voting rights/etc! Fuck that.

But to bring things back to the local level, we need to hold elected officials responsible. If your state congressman or municipal board member doesn't think police officers should wear cameras on their vests, vote them out of office; I don't care if he helped secure a donation for some HBCU or helped get a new rec center in your neighborhood. Hold people accountable.

You want to know why Detroit is fucked? Because the car industry controlled Detroit's government for decades. They killed the transportation system for fear of people riding buses instead of buying cars. They supported infrastructure plans that created highways all around the city to prop up suburbs, which assisted white flight. And they didn't give a shit whether plants or factories hired locals - which is why all that tax money bled out. So you have a system where people drive into the city to work, then drive home and pay taxes in some small town or city. And all the black mayors didn't do shit, just like the white ones. And you know why? Because the people didn't force them, the people didn't know what was happening, the people were too busy focusing on other shit.

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 26, 2014, 09:01:56 PM
Party discipline. :noah
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on August 27, 2014, 11:37:21 AM
Sorry that happened to you, Esch. This is what happens when you listen to Currensy for extended periods.  (http://i.minus.com/iS05dp15szHiW.png)

I'm lucky enough to have never encountered such overt racism before.  The worst I've ever come across was when the old white lady who lived next to us complained to me about how this area was so much nicer before "people like you" moved in.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 27, 2014, 11:46:54 AM
wtf, sorry to hear that esch :snoop
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on August 27, 2014, 11:52:19 AM
We need a decisive list of black owned American businesses. Need to support our own and build up our communities and follow Asians lead.

*Raises hand

I have 2....I accept all donations from cash to gas to ass.


Thanks


AiA
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
Jesus Christ, Esch. I'm sorry to hear this. People are so fucking classless and hateful. :snoop
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on August 27, 2014, 11:54:43 AM
When i was running yesterday someone yelled at me "leave sand n1gger" from a car. It's been a while since i've been anonymously lashed out at for my race, maybe since late high school?

:yeshrug

I'm better at controlling my anger, but that flare up of white hot rage and shame when you initially realize you're being shitted on like that is something I don't know if I can ever overcome.

That completely sucks. Nothing worse than that feeling.

I once had a car full of fellow college students drive by me while I was running shouting "hey distinguished black fellow, what store did you rob?" and "got any fucking crack?".....about a mile down the road they got a flat tire. A million options went through my head including death and dismemberment. However when I got there I just ran by and said "have a super day guys" and watched as the jackals became sheep. I played ball at this time and was going about 230 pounds at the time....fyi....biggest one of them might have been pushing 170 pounds.

edit: Nice autocorrect, didn't know that happened. Anyway I assure you they didn't call me a distinguished black fellow lol.

Edit: As for the rage? I'm pretty old now and it never goes away. It actually gets worse. Imagine your son coming home and asking why people were calling him a coon all day. I just had to crack my neck when I typed that.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 27, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
When i was running yesterday someone yelled at me "leave sand n1gger" from a car. It's been a while since i've been anonymously lashed out at for my race, maybe since late high school?

:yeshrug

I'm better at controlling my anger, but that flare up of white hot rage and shame when you initially realize you're being shitted on like that is something I don't know if I can ever overcome.

That completely sucks. Nothing worse than that feeling.

I once had a car full of fellow college students drive by me while I was running shouting "hey distinguished black fellow, what store did you rob?" and "got any fucking crack?".....about a mile down the road they got a flat tire. A million options went through my head including death and dismemberment. However when I got there I just ran by and said "have a super day guys" and watched as the jackals became sheep. I played ball at this time and was going about 230 pounds at the time....fyi....biggest one of them might have been pushing 170 pounds.

edit: Nice autocorrect, didn't know that happened. Anyway I assure you they didn't call me a distinguished black fellow lol.

Edit: As for the rage? I'm pretty old now and it never goes away. It actually gets worse. Imagine your son coming home and asking why people were calling him a coon all day. I just had to crack my neck when I typed that.

Ann Arbor?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on August 27, 2014, 12:12:15 PM
When i was running yesterday someone yelled at me "leave sand n1gger" from a car. It's been a while since i've been anonymously lashed out at for my race, maybe since late high school?

:yeshrug

I'm better at controlling my anger, but that flare up of white hot rage and shame when you initially realize you're being shitted on like that is something I don't know if I can ever overcome.

That completely sucks. Nothing worse than that feeling.

I once had a car full of fellow college students drive by me while I was running shouting "hey distinguished black fellow, what store did you rob?" and "got any fucking crack?".....about a mile down the road they got a flat tire. A million options went through my head including death and dismemberment. However when I got there I just ran by and said "have a super day guys" and watched as the jackals became sheep. I played ball at this time and was going about 230 pounds at the time....fyi....biggest one of them might have been pushing 170 pounds.

edit: Nice autocorrect, didn't know that happened. Anyway I assure you they didn't call me a distinguished black fellow lol.

Edit: As for the rage? I'm pretty old now and it never goes away. It actually gets worse. Imagine your son coming home and asking why people were calling him a coon all day. I just had to crack my neck when I typed that.

Ann Arbor?

Running down washtenaw towards Ypsi...the cesspool white trash headquarters.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 27, 2014, 12:30:16 PM
:whew

There are a lot of decent people there (hell, I live there) but it's true you get to see quite an interesting dynamic of poor white people trying to shit on blacks and Hispanics. My brother used to live in an apartment around here and I helped him move in. Naturally we had his door open since we were constantly bringing items into the room. At one point the 40something yo white chick n the apartment room opposite of his walked up to us and was like "moving in? Cool. I hope you boys won't be playing your rap music loud all night." I kind of diffused things by jokingly saying "actually I'm just helping him move in, and yes he's very loud :heh "

She wasn't amused, I could tell she was serious.
:beli
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on August 27, 2014, 12:32:30 PM
:whew

There are a lot of decent people there (hell, I live there) but it's true you get to see quite an interesting dynamic of poor white people trying to shit on blacks and Hispanics. My brother used to live in an apartment around here and I helped him move in. Naturally we had his door open since we were constantly bringing items into the room. At one point the 40something yo white chick n the apartment room opposite of his walked up to us and was like "moving in? Cool. I hope you boys won't be playing your rap music loud all night." I kind of diffused things by jokingly saying "actually I'm just helping him move in, and yes he's very loud :heh "

She wasn't amused, I could tell she was serious.
:beli
\

Not sure how long you have been there but I was part of the shit that broke out at the BW3 that closed it down for a while. A bunch of shithead ass racists were pissed me and some friends had a couple of white girls with us and hit my boy over the head with bottle. We left and came back with even numbers...they were not so bad ass then.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 27, 2014, 12:42:58 PM
I've been here since about 1998 or so, iirc; my fam moved from Detroit to Ypsi. Used to live in an apartment on Carpenter before moving to the suburban area of Ypsi with the family. Been living near EMU for awhile, during and after college.

And yes I know what BW3 you're talking about. My dad goes to the new-ish one all the time but fuck that. I used to like going but too many assholes in the crowd.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on August 27, 2014, 12:43:23 PM
What's with this Sand N*gger shit? Is this a thing now? I mean yeah I've heard of it before but I've actually never seen it. Well except my boy Fatty-A back in school who use to call himself that.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on August 27, 2014, 12:43:56 PM
I've been here since about 1998 or so, iirc; my fam moved from Detroit to Ypsi. Used to live in an apartment on Carpenter before moving to the suburban area of Ypsi with the family. Been living near EMU for awhile, during and after college.

And yes I know what BW3 you're talking about. My dad goes to the new-ish one all the time but fuck that. I used to like going but too many assholes in the crowd.

MAC girls are easy ;-)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2014, 12:50:47 PM
When i was running yesterday someone yelled at me "leave sand n1gger" from a car. It's been a while since i've been anonymously lashed out at for my race, maybe since late high school?
"What does it look like I'm doing? You won't let me on planes with one way tickets anymore!"
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on August 27, 2014, 12:51:20 PM
When i was running yesterday someone yelled at me "leave sand n1gger" from a car. It's been a while since i've been anonymously lashed out at for my race, maybe since late high school?
"What does it look like I'm doing? You won't let me on planes with one way tickets anymore!"

LOL!
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2014, 11:03:09 PM
:( Esch and Wrath. I don't really have my ethnicity called out like that in a public manner. People always do so in a side eye or subtle (which these days, is no longer subtle) manner.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Your Stalker on August 27, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
why'd you remove that link
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2014, 11:13:59 PM
Because it's felt too obvious and I wasn't sure how relevant it would be for people to talk about it.

Here's the link though:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/08/25/three-quarters-of-whites-dont-have-any-non-white-friends/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2014, 11:15:42 PM
If I can count you guys as 3/5ths of a friend (for no particular reason) then I have double figure black friends.  :smug
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2014, 11:19:52 PM
Actually, a couple years ago if I counted "work friends" too I'd have double figure black friends without counting internet people, but now it's just honkies and Middle Easterners who act even whiter. Which is barely interesting because I moved to a city with a thousand times the number of black people as where I was.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2014, 11:26:40 PM
One of my favorite favorite restaurants in the area is a Lebanese place called Sultan's, so when there's Middle Eastern friends of Middle Eastern friends coming I always suggest it to make everyone uncomfortable.

They want to go to places like Applebee's or something. Disgusting, no culture.  :yuck

Used to do the same thing with a Korean place and Korean friends of a friend.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 27, 2014, 11:55:39 PM
Shawarma :lawd
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Atramental on August 28, 2014, 12:10:01 AM
http://www.pitahousesc.com/Menu.html

:lawd
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Atramental on August 28, 2014, 12:15:51 AM
Recommending ethnic people restaurants with food they've eaten their whole lives is a classic, top-tier cactivity.
Christ. This so much.

White BJU students would always do that with the Korean and Japanese students...  :neogaf :snoop
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2014, 12:17:26 AM
what'd they say? "hey i know where you can get good sushi" or something
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Atramental on August 28, 2014, 12:29:43 AM
what'd they say? "hey i know where you can get good sushi" or something
Just stuff along the lines of, "Are you okay with eating American food?" Then again, a lot of these white BJU students where homeschooled or went to private schools with  predominantly white student bodies.

Hell, I remember this one girl saying I sounded like a black boy. :what

Nah, bitch. That's my southern accent and vernacular. I mean, I know you're from bumfuck Pennsylvania or some shit but c'mon. :gurl
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Anybody ever had Chicken Tikka Masala?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
what'd they say? "hey i know where you can get good sushi" or something

It's usually more offensive than that. Think of some of the most most generic menu items from an ethnic restaurant, and the white person will be like dude, " :gladbron have you ever had ____________ ? It's so good! You should check out Golden India Tiger Palace!"


This of course doesn't apply to Mexican food.

why doesn't this apply to mexican?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2014, 12:45:04 AM
Not necessarilly true. There's a difference between Chinese and "Chinese", much like there is for Mexican and "Mexican". A lot of classic popular items and dishes are not popular in the mainstream. Same for Chinese food. So it's not that unlikely for a hipster cac who just found a local chinese eatery to suggest an asian person for instance, "hey man you gotta try this bun thing called baoman at the local Deem Soom place. At least I think it's called called baoman. I'm not sure if you've ever had it but you'd like it!" because in popular American culture, baozi buns are not popular at all and are mostly consumed by asians. Same is true for things like Al Pastor and Mexican.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2014, 12:50:17 AM
There's a Chinese place in town that has two menus one for the cac professors and one for the actual Chinese students. And they deliberately used the worst sounding translations possible for the "actual Chinese food" part of the menu.  :lol
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2014, 12:50:39 AM
i can only speak in hypothetical because i dunno understand their rationale at all :stahp
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2014, 12:51:57 AM
There's a Chinese place in town that has two menus one for the cac professors and one for the actual Chinese students. And they deliberately used the worst sounding translations possible for the "actual Chinese food" part of the menu.  :lol


 :shaq2
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2014, 12:53:55 AM
I once ordered off it and the girl was like "uh, are you sure?" over and over so I had to tell her some of the ingredients and then she let me have it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 28, 2014, 12:56:50 AM
Recommending ethnic people restaurants with food they've eaten their whole lives is a classic, top-tier cactivity.

Ain't no cac I ever met rave about bigos or golabki, maybe you should try not eating food that's delectable.

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Bigos :lawd
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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2014, 01:06:17 AM
There were some Armenian-Russians who opened up an Eastern European food place. It quickly became "House of Kebobs" and dropped most everything but the Armenian dishes.

There's actually an Ethiopian restaurant that's been around for a while now, I have to admit I used to make jokes about how it's all air dropped UN labeled bean paste and rice because I'm a terrible human being.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2014, 01:08:43 AM
Ethiopian is the bees knees.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on August 28, 2014, 01:14:52 AM
Cajun food for me is something that's like that. Only this "soul food"/Cajun hybrid joint where the guy had like ten pressure cookers behind the counter could I eat at more than once every few months.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on August 28, 2014, 01:15:43 AM
If you drink slivovitz willingly you're hard enough to enjoy some of the godawful food they eat in Eastern Europe.

Though raw carp on Wigilia is a special tier of hard. :goty2
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2014, 01:18:12 AM
I actually like all three categories that I Iisted above, just rarely feel like eating them.

Afraid of where you'll end up taking a shit?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on August 28, 2014, 01:57:58 AM
Pasujl/grah, cevapi, burek, punjena paprika, musaka, kajmak on fresh bread, jajusa :phil

It's simple peasant food. It's what I grew up with, so I have a fondness.

Also absolutely essential: http://www.vegeta.com/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2014, 09:13:29 AM
Pd, any ideas on how I can help out local ghettoes directly? Haven't really volunteered since a teen.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
Good idea!

Any other ideas? I volunteer at the church good bank sometimes but I want to do more to keep me from feeling helpless.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: chronovore on September 03, 2014, 07:02:44 AM
Recommending ethnic people restaurants with food they've eaten their whole lives is a classic, top-tier cactivity.
what'd they say? "hey i know where you can get good sushi" or something

This is actually what most of my family does to me when I'm back in the USA on vacation. It's not like I'm ethnically Japanese by any stretch, but you'd think they'd be aware that Japanese food is plentiful in Japan.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2014, 09:58:30 PM
fucking fuego

http://www.ebony.com/news-views/what-black-ray-rice-apologists-and-racists-have-in-common-403#axzz3CpgeZDrC

ebony shitting on black patriarchy and misogyny. making these niccas look like fucking cacs :whew
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2014, 07:07:17 PM
we gonna talk about how Jamelle Bouie is coming for Ta-Nehisi Coates' crown as GOAT black blogger/article writer?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/09/the_new_racism_michael_brown_and_trayvon_martin_deny_it_exists_and_smear.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/09/ap_u_s_history_exam_revisions_have_conservatives_furious_the_changes_are.html

that being said I hate the term "new racism" because there's nothing new about the evolution of racism from overt to covert.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2014, 10:26:47 PM
jamelle bringing that fire
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on September 11, 2014, 10:53:34 PM
Eastern European meat dishes tend to be the only ones that are any good outside of baked goods. There's something about their side dishes that seem like they became custom during one of the many famines.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on September 11, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Yeah, I'm really split on Korean food because I'm not a huge pickling fan, though I like it time to time. And a lot of their non-pickled dishes are like strange hellbroths of random seafoods.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on September 11, 2014, 11:29:28 PM
Yeah. Part of it is that I love vegetables and honestly eastern euro veggie dishes are dire. Probably has something to do with not being able to grow the damn things :dead

The best thing about this is that because of market fluctuations swathes of Eastern Europe brought back serfdom to grow foodstuffs because cash cropping is a sensible and sustainable national economic policy, especially during primitive accumulation and early industrialization. Just ask the modern Middle East.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on September 11, 2014, 11:34:04 PM
Eastern Europe had a second wave where they really got into serfdom after the black death, it wasn't as popular as in the West the first time it came through. (Because like everything they do in Western Europe is awesome, we need to be more like them! Especially the French!)


My friend got a stew thing at a Korean place where the menu description made it sound like it was maybe shrimp and crab and one or two other things. They bring out this giant hellbroth that had like all that plus octopus and squid and like three kinds of fish plus other seafood and probably every vegetable in the kitchen.

And it was kinda inedible because the only difference between anything in it was the texture, since it all tasted the same from stewing for probably six months in some pot.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on September 11, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
Bulgogi is my favorite Korean dish, but it feels like cheating.

There's a relatively new place where you grill your own. They have some other stuff but Bulgogi is like their main focus.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on September 11, 2014, 11:44:57 PM
What do you mean by serfdom in this case? I'm not going to lie, sometimes both communists and libertarians use that word haphazardly as fuck.

(http://i.minus.com/jxSt6Fq0oY9tL.png)

I think of the class of people who were mostly unfree and tied to agricultural lands in the late Commonwealth and the various early modern Russian states (ending with the Empire, natch).

Commonwealth stans are some of my favorite Poles BTW.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on September 12, 2014, 12:02:20 AM
At this place they bring you a bunch of side dishes, sauces and then the raw meat, here's some pictures off yelp:
(http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/Fk92rJ4jVW_5OH1oB4oNlg/ls.jpg)
(http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/wtE4mb0fVl9lOIHoNfEQow/l.jpg)
(http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/h4aCdiqFvo70couhDQ5lUQ/l.jpg)

That last guys looks a little gross.

From reading the reviews it looks like they got tongs for the grill. When we went their first week they just had you use your chopsticks unless you asked for something else, and I learned that chopsticks aren't great at pulling meat that's seared to the grill off.

They also don't tell you how to change the amount of gas to the grill, just these shitty temperature knobs, at the far end here, that barely change the flames so it takes forever to cook anything, but I said fuck the rules, crush the state and found the gas knob under the table:
(http://www.lansingcitypulse.com/lansing/imgs/hed/art8382widea.jpg)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's probably a good thing they don't since the place would probably blow up within like four days.
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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on September 12, 2014, 12:22:12 AM
I don't mind it as much when I get small amounts from the side dishes since you're sharing with others because even pickled they all have different flavors. But at places where it's more that each person gets served separately is where it can be a bit much and I'm pushing stuff to the edges so they don't get their juices all over my meat.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 18, 2014, 11:52:21 AM
http://atane.tumblr.com/post/97738043824/we-talked-about-the-division-of-africans-and-black

Great post
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 18, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/16/the_racial_parenting_divide_what_adrian_peterson_reveals_about_black_and_white_child_rearing/

The part about the child learning that the world is for his taking blew my goddamn mind. I've never thought of it like that before. What a mind fuck. My thought process was very much like hers.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2014, 01:15:03 PM
One of my favorite real life troll talking points revolves around spanking. Whenever I hear my mom and her black friends discuss spanking, they always point out the wild white kids in the neighborhood who aren't spanked and act like fools. And I just point out that if spanking is so helpful and such a contrast between black and white kids, how come black children are more likely to be involved in the criminal justice system and go to jail as adults?
(http://i.imgur.com/rVtN8WL.png)

carry on with this serious discussion, brehs.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 18, 2014, 01:20:43 PM
While it's a troll, it does serve to bring light to a good point. a lot of black people discipline their children in a very authoritarian manner to help protect us from a world that hates us. we're told to always put our groceries in bags. we're told to always walk in the side walk. we're told to always mind our p's and q's, sirs and ma'ams. We hold pride in beating the black (how much have you heard this term?) out of our children.

Yet it doesn't seem to be helping much.

I'm not saying that we should stop requesting bags at stores and stuff, that's basic survival. But maybe many black parents should come to the realization that we are no longer slaves and they'll hate us regardless. I was saying last night on plug.dj that I think the treatment of children through violent correction by blacks is often seen as a good rearing trait because possibly in the slavery days, if it wasn't you who did it, it was probably your master who did it, and that's not something any slave wants. People disagreed and said it has nothing to do with race and that every race does this, but I don't know.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on September 24, 2014, 08:20:10 PM
http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/a-deluxe-apartment-in-the-sky/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on September 25, 2014, 08:43:40 AM
So who's your favorite DBZ character?  :lol

Me, I'm a fan of grown-up Gohan.
He had his shit together.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 25, 2014, 09:04:45 AM
One of my favorite real life troll talking points revolves around spanking. Whenever I hear my mom and her black friends discuss spanking, they always point out the wild white kids in the neighborhood who aren't spanked and act like fools. And I just point out that if spanking is so helpful and such a contrast between black and white kids, how come black children are more likely to be involved in the criminal justice system and go to jail as adults?
(http://i.imgur.com/rVtN8WL.png)

carry on with this serious discussion, brehs.

I got my ass whipped growing up (literally, not in terms of getting punched) and I firmly believed it helped me become whom I am. I had a healthy fear of my father.

That said I rarely spank my children, and I never do it with a switch/belt/etc......I just think that's over the top.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on September 25, 2014, 09:11:39 AM
Spanking is child abuse.
There is no excuse for it.

And I speak as someone with a mother who tried to spank me (I wasn't having none of that and practiced my superb dodging skills.)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 25, 2014, 09:15:23 AM
Spanking is child abuse.
There is no excuse for it.

And I speak as someone with a mother who tried to spank me (I wasn't having none of that and practiced my superb dodging skills.)

How I raise my children is my business, not yours. And again, I've probably spanked my children 5 times total in my life.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2014, 09:22:30 AM
God fucking dammit.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 25, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs

The cop was fired, fortunately.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 25, 2014, 09:27:23 AM
God fucking dammit.

fuck off squidward.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2014, 09:28:26 AM
What? I'm annoyed that squiddy has decided to come in this thread and start his bullshit.

Did you just call me a white liberal? :neogaf Ahahahahaha
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 25, 2014, 09:32:12 AM
What? I'm annoyed that squiddy has decided to come in this thread and start his bullshit.

Did you just call me a white liberal? :neogaf Ahahahahaha

Oh I thought you were putting me on blast, my bad.


I had Thai Chili wings last night guys, do get!
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 25, 2014, 09:33:21 AM
What? I'm annoyed that squiddy has decided to come in this thread and start his bullshit.

Did you just call me a white liberal? :neogaf Ahahahahaha

Hello No I was referring to the article above ha ha I know you are a big strong black woman ;-)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on September 25, 2014, 09:36:00 AM
I hope you didn't get me wrong Anonymous, I wasn't commentating on your personal parenting style - that is your business.

What? I'm annoyed that squiddy has decided to come in this thread and start his bullshit.

Did you just call me a white liberal? :neogaf Ahahahahaha

I'm brown, the thread is calling out for the browns, so calm it, bo.
Accept people having different opinions and move on.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 25, 2014, 10:29:42 AM
The Coli expose thread on that movie :rofl

"Oh she's mixed and dating a white man? Fuckouttahere bedwench."
:heh

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 25, 2014, 11:03:17 AM
The movie always looked like trash to me. The dialogue doesn't sound natural at all, especially when compared to natural films like Do The Right Thing.

I hate to stereotype but a lot of mixed people have fucked up views on black people.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on September 25, 2014, 12:09:01 PM
Justin Simien though  :hitler
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2014, 12:10:19 PM
I hope you didn't get me wrong Anonymous, I wasn't commentating on your personal parenting style - that is your business.

What? I'm annoyed that squiddy has decided to come in this thread and start his bullshit.

Did you just call me a white liberal? :neogaf Ahahahahaha

I'm brown, the thread is calling out for the browns, so calm it, bo.
Accept people having different opinions and move on.

You came in this thread and started talking about anime
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on September 25, 2014, 12:48:34 PM
Sarcasm, love.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 26, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2hk8om/this_lady_this_lady_understands_it_and_describes/

Mostly full of racists and linguists trying to pick apart arguments and being met with idiotic responses. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on September 26, 2014, 10:03:05 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2hk8om/this_lady_this_lady_understands_it_and_describes/

Mostly full of racists and linguists trying to pick apart arguments and being met with idiotic responses.
Ctrl+F "code switching" and found some matches, then noped out of there.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 26, 2014, 10:20:11 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2hk8om/this_lady_this_lady_understands_it_and_describes/

Mostly full of racists and linguists trying to pick apart arguments and being met with idiotic responses.

I agree with her video overall but at the same time there's nothing wrong with having a regional diction. You aren't speaking "wrong" if you're from Louisiana and pronounce shit differently from my Michigan ass.

The thing I really agree with is the "acting/talking white" self hate. What are you saying about yourself as a black person when you say being smart and reading=acting white? What is "acting black" then? I've always had very good diction and pronunciation,  probably because my parents stressed it and most of my uncles/aunts/etc speak fluently. Black kids used to give me a lot of shit for the way I talked, the fact that I read, my musical taste, etc. And I'd catch feelings and began to hate being associated with black people. And even after our "moving on up" moment where we moved from Detroit to the suburbs I still had to deal with a handful of black kids who said that shit. But then I ran into white kids who told me the exact same thing...

And yea, I may have had some satisfaction on the "at least they think I'm better than other black people!" coon tip, deep down I knew that shit was wack.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 26, 2014, 10:49:13 PM
The problem with her argument is that it doesn't really have anything to do about education or fluently.  For education, it is conflating two issues,  African American vernacular and a poor education.  There is no reason why some one can not speak intelligently and still say 'aks'.  A lack a vocabulary and the ability to speak well are problems with education not the language and so telling people just to speak differently doesn't actually solve the issue. 

It also progresses racism when people say that that standard English is more 'fluent' when they really mean more prestigious.  Seriously, no one would go into a school in Newfoundland and tell students that they need to learn proper English in order to get better jobs and yet that is an acceptable thing to tell black kids.  Non-standard dialects that other white people speak for the most part might seem less prestige or even dumb, say for example a southern drawl, but no ones tells these people to change the way they speak.  Peoples opinions on African American vernacular are disproportional to their options of other dialects; Cajun English is quaint and speaks to the history of a peoples where African American vernacular is just blacks being lazy. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 29, 2014, 02:08:52 PM
Was just at the supermarket and overheard these old WASP (?) ladies going on and on about how jews are evil, sexually perverse, and alcoholics (is this a thing)? Always find it so :whew to hear caucasians hating on each other.  Reminds me of my now-dead grandpa telling me south Indians are ugly and weak, and that their language sounds like a pinball machine ( :dead ). He was a twat.

Bro there is a whole rabbit hole here. Baptists hate Catholics who hate Lutherans who hate Methodists. Everybody shits on 7th day adventists and pentacostals. And sitting somewhere on the bottom of the white religious hierarchy is the Jewish and Jehova Witnesses.

It's complicated man, I'm still learning. Small town suburb america is a cesspool of white on white hate.


Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 29, 2014, 02:18:11 PM
Fuck Calvinists and Jehova's Witnesses. And I'm not even religious anymore.
:heh
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 29, 2014, 02:20:04 PM
I've been meaning to establish some sort of CAC hierarchy for a minute now based on what I've observed in America. Basically I can't say I have it finished but I'm fairly sure Germans and the English are on top, and eastern euros are the cac underclass.  Religion is a whole different story.

I've lift in a few places.....It's trick (religion)

Around here in Ohio it's definitely a baptist hotbed. Down south too.

California was fairly agnostic.

Michigan is full of catholics.

so confusing.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 29, 2014, 03:23:15 PM
Was just at the supermarket and overheard these old WASP (?) ladies going on and on about how jews are evil, sexually perverse, and alcoholics (is this a thing)? Always find it so :whew to hear caucasians hating on each other.  Reminds me of my now-dead grandpa telling me south Indians are ugly and weak, and that their language sounds like a pinball machine ( :dead ). He was a twat.



WASP?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_Airforce_Service_Pilots
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 29, 2014, 03:27:50 PM
I've been meaning to establish some sort of CAC hierarchy for a minute now based on what I've observed in America. Basically I can't say I have it finished but I'm fairly sure Germans and the English are on top, and eastern euros are the cac underclass.  Religion is a whole different story.

I don't trust racial theories from from Indians.  They are all like 'Aryan' this and 'Aryan' that.  I only trust racial theories from Germans because they are like 'Aryan' this and 'Aryan' that.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
white hierarchy in america is msotly german > english > pick and choose from there
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 29, 2014, 03:41:10 PM
I've been meaning to establish some sort of CAC hierarchy for a minute now based on what I've observed in America. Basically I can't say I have it finished but I'm fairly sure Germans and the English are on top, and eastern euros are the cac underclass.  Religion is a whole different story.

I don't trust racial theories from from Indians.  They are all like 'Aryan' this and 'Aryan' that.  I only trust racial theories from Germans because they are like 'Aryan' this and 'Aryan' that.

Leave me out of this! :wag
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 03:44:44 PM
I've been meaning to establish some sort of CAC hierarchy for a minute now based on what I've observed in America. Basically I can't say I have it finished but I'm fairly sure Germans and the English are on top, and eastern euros are the cac underclass.  Religion is a whole different story.

I don't trust racial theories from from Indians.  They are all like 'Aryan' this and 'Aryan' that.  I only trust racial theories from Germans because they are like 'Aryan' this and 'Aryan' that.


Leave me out of this! :wag

time to get a name change and i don't mean on the bore :lol
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Dennis on September 29, 2014, 03:47:05 PM
What is up, my colored people?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 03:51:07 PM
white hierarchy in america is msotly german > english > pick and choose from there

Hebrew niccas run you niccas, ask Joe Liebermann (http://i.imgur.com/Z5NGREQ.png)

i hesitate calling jews whites
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 29, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
Triumph: Hi, can I buy you a drink
Girl: Sure :)
Triumph: What's your name?
Girl: Esther. What's your name?  :-*
Triumph: :fbm
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 29, 2014, 04:00:28 PM
My high school was like 40% Jewish and I have a thing for brunettes, brehs.

:shaq2
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on September 29, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
Was just at the supermarket and overheard these old WASP (?) ladies going on and on about how jews are evil, sexually perverse, and alcoholics (is this a thing)?

It's a little known fact, but in recognition for services rendered to the tribe Norman Mailer was given the rare honor of establishing his own Jewish stereotype.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on September 29, 2014, 06:35:38 PM
What is up, my colored people?

You don't belong here, reverse-coon.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 29, 2014, 06:54:44 PM
I don't think I've ever pursued a Jewish chick. Not that I'd try anything serious, given the likelihood of parental fuckery.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 29, 2014, 06:56:48 PM
I bet you don't think Israel is the U.S's closest ally as well, you anti-Semite. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 29, 2014, 06:59:41 PM
Also I have the most likes in this thread (on this page at least).*  Does that make me an honorary black/brown person?  Who is going to teach me all those secret words cacs can't say?


*I am hedging on future likes of this post.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on September 29, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
You're a proper maroon.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 29, 2014, 07:05:51 PM
And if I were Scottish, I could be a proper macaroon. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on September 29, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
You're a proper maroon.

To give you a glimpse into my madness, when I read this I seriously considered constructing a joke about Montreal linguistic hockey fandom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Maroons).
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Squiddy on September 29, 2014, 07:15:24 PM
You're a proper maroon.

To give you a glimpse into my madness, when I read this I seriously considered constructing a joke about Montreal linguistic hockey fandom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Maroons).

It's not too late to elucidate my potential linguistic faux pas to the rest of us through your selected medium of comedy.

Edit: Help! I can't post, only edit my posts.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 29, 2014, 07:53:05 PM
 :'(

Fine.  If I can't be one of you guys I'll go start my own club and it will have a sign on the front saying no black or brown fokes, except for the caddies...actually I'll just join a country club. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Kara on September 29, 2014, 10:27:50 PM
It's not too late to elucidate my potential linguistic faux pas to the rest of us through your selected medium of comedy.

What I enjoy most about attempts to mimic my lexical abberancy is that in addition to making fun of me for perfectly understandable reasons, they manage to convey some aspect of my personality in a truthful manner despite replicating my diction in an incorrect one. (In this instance, my predilection for didactic conversation.)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 06, 2014, 01:47:22 AM
Everyone should read it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on October 06, 2014, 08:42:17 AM
Also I have the most likes in this thread (on this page at least).*  Does that make me an honorary black/brown person?  Who is going to teach me all those secret words cacs can't say?


*I am hedging on future likes of this post.

(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/677/bc8/0a3/resized/white-people-mourning-romney-meme-generator-go-home-white-people-youre-drunk-79a302.jpg?1352440089.jpg)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 09, 2014, 12:11:50 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/10/08/new-study-only-24-of-population-blacks-in-boston-make-up-63-of-stop-and-frisk-encounters/?tid=rssfeed
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on October 09, 2014, 12:29:21 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/10/08/new-study-only-24-of-population-blacks-in-boston-make-up-63-of-stop-and-frisk-encounters/?tid=rssfeed

Growing up, white kids are taught to fear the boogeyman. Black kids are taught to fear the cops.

:yeshrug
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 09, 2014, 12:37:51 PM
But I believe in a world where children, both white and black, fear the boogeyman and cops together.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on October 09, 2014, 12:39:31 PM
But I believe in a world where children, both white and black, fear the boogeyman and cops together.

We're getting there, and not in a good way. All this bullshit whites are saying about "militarizing police/police state" shit is stuff we've been dealing with since before electricity was an everyday thing.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 09, 2014, 12:41:42 PM
Also is a cop boogeyman a boogieman?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on October 09, 2014, 12:42:37 PM
Also is a cop boogeyman a boogieman?

Whatever he wants. He's got the gun and badge.

But thanks for finally taking notice of the shit we've been dealing with though....

http://www.cleveland.com/interact/2014/10/how_far_is_too_far_for_law_enf.html#incart_river

:ufup

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on October 11, 2014, 01:37:57 AM
Any of yall read this yet? I hear good things.

I've seen it recommended by smartdumb fellows on thecoli for years now, but I might finally read it now that Ta-Nehisi Coates seems to be publically posting about it  (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/09/books-for-the-horde-the-new-jim-crow-chapters-3-and-4/380712/)

(http://www.uua.org/images/publications/other/asset_upload_file549_221535.png)

This is older but along the same lines I think:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416Os6a4SNL.jpg)

Not exactly the same subject, but some cac's really didn't like this book:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515EGqBZiRL.jpg)

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on October 11, 2014, 01:49:19 AM
I can't remember if it's that latter book or not that posits the timing of the Civil Rights Movement taking off was related to WWII but not in the common way the narrative goes (everyone was brothers in war blah blah blah), that instead it was sparked by all the government was doing to try and improve the status of whites post war while going back to business as usual regarding blacks that exacerbated the visibility of the inequalities and inaction. Especially in regards to housing, education, work, etc.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on October 11, 2014, 02:50:13 AM
http://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2014, 07:22:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfRTS480cVM

I'm not mad considering the entire point of her saying this is to rustle a large response from black people, then play the victim card when someone calls her a name.

These people literally exist to be trotted out by white conservatives and say things they couldn't get away with. It's a game for profit. They write books, get TV appearances, etc while telling white conservatives what they want to hear: black people are lazy, uneducated, have a hive mind, etc.

We're gonna pretend like black people are the only uneducated people in fucking Louisiana? BTW, a state that is not currently benefiting from the Obamacare Medicaid expansion, which btw would help more white citizens of the state than black. They pay taxes - sales tax, state tax, gas tax, on and on.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 17, 2014, 01:39:23 AM
Did y'all know that water is wet? (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f7eeb97af464cf78f50980a7e4dcb67/study-finds-anxiety-after-street-stops-police)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 18, 2014, 03:55:48 PM
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/a947853942ba1845f804d6371baf4681/tumblr_ndcdluWj4R1qcdbmuo1_500.jpg)

https://twitter.com/iFahCue/status/521137439055036418
:dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on October 18, 2014, 05:08:06 PM
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/a947853942ba1845f804d6371baf4681/tumblr_ndcdluWj4R1qcdbmuo1_500.jpg)

https://twitter.com/iFahCue/status/521137439055036418
:dead

:dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 20, 2014, 10:41:04 PM
I saw it, Spike Lee light is a perfect way of describing it PD. And I don't even like Spike Lee.

PD called it Tumblr The Movie, which is also a perfect description.

Yup.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 20, 2014, 10:58:04 PM
I didn't know bill was a *alleged* rapist

This was the first thing I read about it:  http://www.salon.com/2014/02/12/another_woman_speaks_out_over_bill_cosby_sexual_abuse_allegations/

I got to say, and not to blame the victim - because that is wrong - but rape me once shame on you, rape me twice...
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2014, 11:35:15 PM
Wow. Bill Cosby a rapist. Wow.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 21, 2014, 01:55:16 PM
I'm honestly flabbergasted at the situation.

I didn't know bill was a *alleged* rapist

Still....Bill Cosby bruh?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Steve Contra on October 21, 2014, 05:20:41 PM
Bill Cosby is right alongside R. Kelley and Sean Penn on the how the fuck do you still have a career, never mind being a free and not rotting in prison.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 21, 2014, 05:57:36 PM
Who did Sean Penn rape?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 21, 2014, 05:59:11 PM
Who did Sean Penn rape?

Your wallet if you paid to see any of his movies in the last decade (except I Am Sam).
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 21, 2014, 06:12:53 PM
Fassbender too :(

http://www.thegloss.com/2014/02/06/culture/abusive-male-celebrities-with-violent-pasts/2/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 26, 2014, 08:48:17 PM
It's kinda useless to get mad about imo because as long as white people are alive it's gonna happen. Not in the way that racism or even sexism is bad but in "they're just gonna copy whats hot to make money and it just so happens that culturally rich peoples (minorities) are always gonna get their shit jacked" kinda way. Until the pendulum swings the other way, and white youths suddenly become cool ouside of the occasional counter culture they get every few decades (skateboarding, metal and even skateboarding is lowkey kinda sus since it's heavily inspired by surfing which was originally a pacific islander thing but yeah).

And I mean where do we draw the line with "cultural appropriation" and "white person who grew up with this, this was their whole passion etc." Cultural appropriation to me is more along the lines of you were in a metal/hardcore band up until four years ago when you saw all the money was in EDM/DJing so you switched lanes even though you heart wasn't in it. Even then I have a hard time hating on someone hustling trying to make dollars unless their full on garbage tier.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 08:51:19 PM
It's one of those things where I know I shouldn't care for all the reasons Toku said that still russles me up when I see it. Can't explain it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 26, 2014, 08:53:38 PM
Toku summed it up perfectly but I'd be lying if I said I still don't feel some type of way about it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 08:55:21 PM
Like, I'm down with people like EricP. People who respect the culture, genuinely like it, and show actual attempt for understanding towards it. I'm not down with the traditional wigger who calls people nicca on fb.

There's a line, and more often than not it feels crossed, unfortunately? Am I articulating myself right here?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 26, 2014, 09:05:14 PM
Like, I'm down with people like EricP. People who respect the culture, genuinely like it, and show actual attempt for understanding towards it. I'm not down with the traditional wigger who calls people nicca on fb.

There's a line, and more often than not it feels crossed, unfortunately? Am I articulating myself right here?

No you're on point. For me it's all about balance. Not a great example but say I was a DJ. It's okay to like and play an Iggy track but I might follow it up with Tink or Sasha Go Hard etc. PoC just below the surface who might be futher had they been shades lighter or born somewhere else:
http://youtu.be/cviHpaTf6zA
http://youtu.be/tAeh_P5uR7k

spoiler (click to show/hide)
She is being mentored/picked up by Timbaland though so I'm hoping she ends up winning but we'll see.
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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: nudemacusers on October 26, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
this is why whenever i buy some expensive euro streetwear clothing, I buy a pair of nikes too.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 09:36:17 PM
speaking of more black/brown people shit

can we talk about how badly this guy fell off :beli



(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CMXRbj%2BuL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)



the title alone is pure (http://i.imgur.com/YN2skak.png)

(http://i.minus.com/iQhazrthdMqrx.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 26, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
When I first moved to the US I learned quick to not tell people I was from Jamaica because the weed and bob marley questions were endless.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 26, 2014, 09:38:01 PM
More often than not "cultural appropriation" is a misused term when it comes to hip hop. It has become a catch-all complaint about white people in hip hop, and I think that's corny. Personally I don't like Macklemore's music...but I'm not going to say he's "stealing" anything. He grew up listening to rap and sounds like an aughts backpacker, all the way down to the awkward flow. Iggy Azaliea...meh. From what I understand she was a model/pop singer who turned into a rapper. That's more egregious but then again, rap is full of shit like that, plus "fake" people. Look at Tyga yall. Should he get a pass because he's black? What about Drake?

The majority of the biggest rappers in the world (ie Drake, Hov, Wayne, Kanye, Kendrick, etc) remain black. What we're seeing recently is a demand for pop rap beyond "do molly/smoke weed" anthems. The most successful young rappers all talk about a variety of shit, identify with their fanbases, and understand how to make crossover rap. All we're seeing now is a wave of white artists doing what Kendrick, Drake, and Cole have been successfully doing over the last 4-5 years. That's it. Whether any of them have the staying power of those artists remains to be seen. I'd bet money Iggy will be thrown in the bushes very soon considering her album hasn't sold well and she's horrible live.

It's funny how white money has propped up hip hop since day one, yet now people are mad labels are pushing white rappers beyond just Eminem. Go see any rapper live and tell me what the audience looks like. White women dominate record purchases. If black people want to "take things back" they can start by buying some fucking music, or going to concerts. I've seen Robert Glasper and Esperanza Spalding live and was one of the only black people there. SMH.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 26, 2014, 09:49:31 PM
It's funny how white money has propped up hip hop since day one, yet now people are mad labels are pushing white rappers beyond just Eminem. Go see any rapper live and tell me what the audience looks like. White women dominate record purchases. If black people want to "take things back" they can start by buying some fucking music, or going to concerts. I've seen Robert Glasper and Esperanza Spalding live and was was one of the only black people there. SMH.

It's really baffling how folks claim hiphop is on a decline and how the majority of it is subpar now, but absolutely will not support what they do like. Will rant and rave about the leak but come release date? "I aint got it breh...it's real out here (http://i5.minus.com/ib0QmYLL3apxWu.png)"

Now I'm no saint, I download albums too, but I make it a point to support artists I genuinely like and want to see succeed (even if I just keep the CDs in their shrinkwrap and just play the mp3s)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 10:04:01 PM
I like Macklemore. Not in the sense that I like his music, but in the sense that he brings diversity to rap. And diversity is good, right?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 26, 2014, 10:04:45 PM
I like Macklemore. Not in the sense that I like his music, but in the sense that he brings diversity to rap. And diversity is good, right?

 :beli
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 26, 2014, 10:08:16 PM
It's really baffling how folks claim hiphop is on a decline and how the majority of it is subpar now, but absolutely will not support what they do like. Will rant and rave about the leak but come release date? "I aint got it breh...it's real out here (http://i5.minus.com/ib0QmYLL3apxWu.png)"

Now I'm no saint, I download albums too, but I make it a point to support artists I genuinely like and want to see succeed (even if I just keep the CDs in their shrinkwrap and just play the mp3s)

While the same could be said for lots of genres when people say hip-hop is in decline or they don't like modern hip-hop, they mean the mainstream stuff that people listen to or seems to be popular.
Yes there was also bad stuff that was popular in the "good ol days" but it really was easier to navigate and find the good stuff.

I think it is much much harder to do that today. The popular stuff is mostly shit. And its much harder to just kick on the TV and listen to really good hip hop like in the past. So the impression the average person gets is that most of it is shit.

just my opinion.


There is also just a generation gap. There are a lot of older people who grew up liking hip hop but who don't have the time to spend looking for the good stuff and who really really detest the mainstream stuff now.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 26, 2014, 10:08:20 PM
Those tink tracks are tight toku, she got a quality project i should check out?

Winter's Diary 2 is her only real quality release but be warned, it's very much made in some chicago producers basement. Good news is because of it she got to do tracks with Jeremih, made that track with DJ Dahi and Timbaland scooped her up off it.

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/25852/tink-winters-diary-2.html

Best way to describe it is imagine if One In A Million era Aaliyah rapped every now and then/willing to get a little grimey. It does have a Lil Herb feature though.

Stuff she dropped this year:
https://soundcloud.com/tink_g/dont-tell-nobody-ft-jeremih-prod-da-internz (probably the biggest one she dropped this year)
https://soundcloud.com/tink_g/abc-fantasies-tink
https://soundcloud.com/tink_g/try-me-tink-remix
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
I like Macklemore. Not in the sense that I like his music, but in the sense that he brings diversity to rap. And diversity is good, right?

 :beli

I mean, not so much as what he looks like, but the content of his songs. He has his niche and it tends to be positive/quirky. This diversifies the genre. He's certainly not the only one doing it, but I feel like that can't be a bad thing in itself. It's why I also "like" Drake. I don't like his music much, but I like that he diversifies the genre by catering to a different demographic than standard rappers. A lot of hip hop heads have a problem with Drake, and cite that "he's not hip hop", but the problem is that hip hop, since the 00's, has become a homogeneous genre plagued with very little variety in subject matter. There have been plenty of rappers who cater to women in the past, and there will be some who cater to women in the future. This doesn't mean Drake isn't hip hop. I feel like a lot of hip hop fans are threatened by anything that goes against the status quo, which is partly why I abandoned the genre a long time ago. It is among the least progressive and most conservative of genres. Probably THE least progressive. But as an outside observer who mostly just listens to hip hop on the radio during my commute, they serve their niche, and there's no problem with that.

Now Iggy...for some reason she just rustles my shit.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 26, 2014, 10:17:30 PM
It's really baffling how folks claim hiphop is on a decline and how the majority of it is subpar now, but absolutely will not support what they do like. Will rant and rave about the leak but come release date? "I aint got it breh...it's real out here (http://i5.minus.com/ib0QmYLL3apxWu.png)"

Now I'm no saint, I download albums too, but I make it a point to support artists I genuinely like and want to see succeed (even if I just keep the CDs in their shrinkwrap and just play the mp3s)

While the same could be said for lots of genres when people say hip-hop is in decline or they don't like modern hip-hop, they mean the mainstream stuff that people listen to either on the radio, or the stuff that was popular on the enthusiast shows like yo mtv raps/ rapcity, etc.

Yes there was also bad stuff that was popular but it really was easier to navigate and find the good stuff.

I think it is much much harder to do that today. The popular stuff is shit. And its much harder to just kick on the TV and listen to really good hip hop. So the impression the average person gets is that most of it is shit.

just my opinion.


There is also just a generation gap. There are a lot of older people who grew up liking hip hop but who don't have the time to spend looking for the good stuff and who are really really detest the mainstream stuff now.

I see what you're saying and you're not wrong, but I can't agree with folks not having the time to search for the good stuff. Yes, it's not as abundant as it was way back when as far as the radio or TV (though I can't think of anything now that would show videos on the regular on non-premium cable other than 106 and Park on BET and that's practically a fossil at this point), but it couldn't be easier to look for it today. All it takes is a quick Google search to find a treasure trove of good music, be it legally or illegally. Hell, if you have time to register on a forum and complain about the state of hiphop, you've got time to look for stuff that's more to your taste.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 26, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
I think the biggest problem people have with Iggy is to see her cake off of rap so well, while being relatively new yet rap history is littered with black women who kinda squeeked by only to switch lanes or fade into obscurity. No one remembers Latifah for her rap career. No one under 30 remembers MC Lyte. Lil Kim and Foxy Brown are punchlines now etc. Meanwhile Iggy is outselling dudes and getting radio play. Nicki Minaj had to go twice as hard as most of her peers half sellout making trashy dubstep-lite hits to solidify her name.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 26, 2014, 10:21:19 PM
If only Flipmode didn't implode and Rah Digga dropped a sophomore effort closer to Dirty Harriet  :goty2
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 10:25:53 PM
Most r&b doesn't sound like r&b to me anymore. Even the top r&b artists like Chris Brown mostly have a rap emphasis. R&B now sounds far too hip hop-ish to me. I like the traditional sound of Janelle Monae because it sounds like rhythm and blues to me. There's a line between r&b and pop. Just because you are a black singer does not make you r&b. For example, John Legend's latest stuff even has this electronic emphasis and it sounds like it's going along with trends rather than staying true to the genres roots. Even in the 80's/90's and New Jack Swing took off, it added a more contemporary element to it, but it was still identifably r&b. With horns, and piaanos, certain instruments at work. There was a line between r&b, pop, and rap.

So I like Janelle because she brings her own thing with a nice traditional r&b sound. Tbh, though I know you're trolling, you calling Janelle a black highlight reel just shows how much you don't know about r&b. Saying live instruments and the production is a black highlight reel is like calling playing an acoustic for a country song or an electric guitar for a rock song a white highlight reel. It's not. It's sticking to the genre bread and butter. It's like saying using samples in hip hop is being a black highlight reel. I know you want to troll, but it sounds mighty ignorant, dude. Janelle is not pop.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 10:26:54 PM
It's really baffling how folks claim hiphop is on a decline and how the majority of it is subpar now, but absolutely will not support what they do like. Will rant and rave about the leak but come release date? "I aint got it breh...it's real out here (http://i5.minus.com/ib0QmYLL3apxWu.png)"

Now I'm no saint, I download albums too, but I make it a point to support artists I genuinely like and want to see succeed (even if I just keep the CDs in their shrinkwrap and just play the mp3s)

While the same could be said for lots of genres when people say hip-hop is in decline or they don't like modern hip-hop, they mean the mainstream stuff that people listen to either on the radio, or the stuff that was popular on the enthusiast shows like yo mtv raps/ rapcity, etc.

Yes there was also bad stuff that was popular but it really was easier to navigate and find the good stuff.

I think it is much much harder to do that today. The popular stuff is shit. And its much harder to just kick on the TV and listen to really good hip hop. So the impression the average person gets is that most of it is shit.

just my opinion.


There is also just a generation gap. There are a lot of older people who grew up liking hip hop but who don't have the time to spend looking for the good stuff and who are really really detest the mainstream stuff now.

I see what you're saying and you're not wrong, but I can't agree with folks not having the time to search for the good stuff. Yes, it's not as abundant as it was way back when as far as the radio or TV (though I can't think of anything now that would show videos on the regular on non-premium cable other than 106 and Park on BET and that's practically a fossil at this point), but it couldn't be easier to look for it today. All it takes is a quick Google search to find a treasure trove of good music, be it legally or illegally. Hell, if you have time to register on a forum and complain about the state of hiphop, you've got time to look for stuff that's more to your taste.  :yeshrug

For what it's worth, I think the genre is in a much better state than it was 10 years ago. Those days were terrible. I think it's the best its been since the late 90's. It's just that I outgrew it. Still can jam though.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on October 26, 2014, 10:43:34 PM
It's really baffling how folks claim hiphop is on a decline and how the majority of it is subpar now, but absolutely will not support what they do like. Will rant and rave about the leak but come release date? "I aint got it breh...it's real out here (http://i5.minus.com/ib0QmYLL3apxWu.png)"

Now I'm no saint, I download albums too, but I make it a point to support artists I genuinely like and want to see succeed (even if I just keep the CDs in their shrinkwrap and just play the mp3s)

While the same could be said for lots of genres when people say hip-hop is in decline or they don't like modern hip-hop, they mean the mainstream stuff that people listen to either on the radio, or the stuff that was popular on the enthusiast shows like yo mtv raps/ rapcity, etc.

Yes there was also bad stuff that was popular but it really was easier to navigate and find the good stuff.

I think it is much much harder to do that today. The popular stuff is shit. And its much harder to just kick on the TV and listen to really good hip hop. So the impression the average person gets is that most of it is shit.

just my opinion.


There is also just a generation gap. There are a lot of older people who grew up liking hip hop but who don't have the time to spend looking for the good stuff and who are really really detest the mainstream stuff now.

I see what you're saying and you're not wrong, but I can't agree with folks not having the time to search for the good stuff. Yes, it's not as abundant as it was way back when as far as the radio or TV (though I can't think of anything now that would show videos on the regular on non-premium cable other than 106 and Park on BET and that's practically a fossil at this point), but it couldn't be easier to look for it today. All it takes is a quick Google search to find a treasure trove of good music, be it legally or illegally. Hell, if you have time to register on a forum and complain about the state of hiphop, you've got time to look for stuff that's more to your taste.  :yeshrug

For what it's worth, I think the genre is in a much better state than it was 10 years ago. Those days were terrible. I think it's the best its been since the late 90's. It's just that I outgrew it. Still can jam though.

Yeah, 2004 was rough mainstream-wise, but it was also the year we were blessed with Madvillainy, MM Food and UN or U Out  :rejoice
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 26, 2014, 11:56:40 PM
I like Cornel West mainly because I appreciate having a black intellectual in pop culture but I haven't really followed his career since late high school/early college.

Also, I like the way he talks.

:larry
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 27, 2014, 12:17:39 AM
haha I think I unfollowed him on twitter because of that obama shit.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 28, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/10/charles-barkley-and-the-plague-of-unintelligent-blacks/382022/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 30, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/viral-walking-new-york-catcalling-video-edited-out-white-people-1472453

expect white liberals to automatically be your ally, brehs

(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sass2.png)

*loud cackle*
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 30, 2014, 06:52:26 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/okla-man-decapitates-son-state-trooper-grisly-murder-cops-article-1.1993242

almost remove the son of a cop's head (still killing him) but get apprehended alive brehs

#whitesonly
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 30, 2014, 09:42:03 PM
Man that shit still bugging me. Edited a harassment video to make men of color seem more sexually aggressive :snoop , how can you do something like that?

Just feels like such a blow to feminism to me.  Or something. I don't know :fbm

It is, but white feminism is the only feminism that matters so this will disappear in a day or two while the video gets millions and millions of views. Meanwhile women of color continue to be invisible.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Until they say something that rubs some white girl the wrong way and the infighting flares up and woc get painted as villains...and you get the point
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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 30, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
19mil views. They won already.

oh well. I got to see Kate Upton nude, I'll call it a draw and move on.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on November 02, 2014, 01:23:24 AM
I'm kind of glad to hear this thread wasn't too hot on Dear White People.  A bunch of people invited me to see this, but I declined since the trailers made it seem way too pandering to be enjoyable.  I couldn't tell if the mostly positive response was just coming from people who were desperate to prove how progressive they were or if it's actually a good movie.   

I'm taking a sociology class right now (Could have been my minor, but I freaked out about my major last year, dropped a course, lost credit and still haven't made it all back up yet).  A couple weeks ago we watched the first hour of the Spike Lee movie Get on the Bus.  The professor kept gushing about how great it was and most of my classmates loved it.  I thought the movie (at least the first hour of it) was trash.  It was extremely heavy handed and didn't really provide much insight into the lives of the participants in the Million Man March or how the rest of the country reacted to it.  The central characters were fairly diverse, but you know everything about them within the first few minutes of meeting them.  No one grew out of the obvious archetypes they appeared to be.  Overall, the film made lots of surface level observations, but there wasn't much depth or subtlety which left me disappointed.  Again this was only the first hour so maybe things turn around after that. 

My reaction to the Spike Lee movie, plus disinterest in Dear White People had me legit getting worried that it was some sign of self-hatred that was preventing me from enjoying stories about black people.  When I was younger I'd say I definitely held more negative views on blackness that I still haven't completely unlearned.  It's the reason I find comfort in knowing I'm not the only one who thinks those movies kind of sucked.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on November 05, 2014, 03:27:07 AM
https://medium.com/@ericajoy/the-other-side-of-diversity-1bb3de2f053e
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on November 09, 2014, 03:32:20 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/i-taught-my-black-kids-that-their-elite-upbringing-would-protect-them-from-discrimination-i-was-wrong/

bit of a classic story if you come from a middle class home and your parents pushed you to excel but yeah.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: ZephyrFate on November 12, 2014, 01:12:33 AM
going to see Dear White People on Friday probably. Any of you guys see it yet?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: dkdk on November 12, 2014, 01:18:03 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/i-taught-my-black-kids-that-their-elite-upbringing-would-protect-them-from-discrimination-i-was-wrong/

bit of a classic story if you come from a middle class home and your parents pushed you to excel but yeah.
meh that's his wack ass parenting. he should know better if he's so smart.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Verdigris Murder on November 12, 2014, 01:25:09 AM
going to see Dear White People on Friday probably. Any of you guys see it yet?
No, it looks shit and unfunny. You should watch VHS viral instead? As I think you'd probably dig that quite hard.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Brehvolution on November 24, 2014, 01:19:25 PM
Since you live there, was it a cop?  :hitler
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Brehvolution on November 24, 2014, 01:27:02 PM
I'd say to say something back, but that wouldn't be worth your time. Someone that mentally unstable would probably attack.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 24, 2014, 01:35:46 PM
I wish a cac would :ufup

But when they're in a car going 30mph and you're jogging :yeshrug

Ha ha I had some fraternity cacs from Easter Michigan say some shit like "run nicca run" and "what did you steal" when I was training and running down the main stretch between Ypsi and Ann Arbor.

They got a flat about 2 miles up the road and I was still running, you should have seen them dudes when I got closer

 :kobeyuck

But all I did was run right by them and give them one of these

 :comeon

Oh wait, I got a better one for you bro.

My buddy Mark was about 6'5 and roughly 4000000000 pounds, I mean dude was as big as a fridge. We were at this little club in Ann Arbor once and these dicks starting fucking with our little buddy who was like 130 pounds tops. They were all like "sup BRO, you want to get beat on BRO?" Mark seen that shit and grabbed one of the dudes around his shoulders and picked him up and this dude literally wet himself.

Mark just dropped him on the floor and said leave James alone. He really was a gentle giant. But the pissing, ha, dude had to be shook.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 24, 2014, 01:49:48 PM
I'm not picking a fight with a white guy (I know better) but if i was about to get attacked by one of these guys like brehvolution said :ufup gonna take care of my business  is all. I've never been out and out physically attacked for my color I think, barring some suspect behavior on the football team when I was getting started maybe.

I live in a white hood and when we first moved in I took my cousin and my father in law out to a little dive bar for some beers. It was the worst I've ever been offended in my life. I mean....we show up and all this uppity cacs were giving us dirty looks and saying shit under their breath and the bartender would not even come to our table. Thank god mamma CAC (there is always one female CAC who rules the roost in the small town) came over and introduced herself and determined we were not there to rob/fuck white women/perform gangster activities or whatever small town people think we do when we were out. Once she was cool, everybody was cool and it's been that way since. But I was heated, if I was ever to go crazy that would have been the time. 

It helps that I played sports, once they know you played in college/etc they generally go nuts asking questions then buy you a beer. Good way to drink for free is to have my friend or cousin talk about me playing football and the beers start coming. 12 dollar nights out brehs.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 24, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
Funny you say that. The most bizarre racial experience of my young life was at a McDonalds in Alabama on the way to Gulf Shores. We got our food, sat down and then realized that the restaurant was full but dead quiet. And that we were in the middle of it. Surrounded  one half by black oeople and white people on the other half, both giving us glances and muttering shit. Had a young Esch pretty creeped out. My dad and mom ended up picking all our food up and we drove off in the car.

(http://i.imgur.com/MVrKohO.png)

Yeah it's hard to describe exactly how that situation feels if you've never been a part of it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on November 24, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
http://vimeo.com/97971791
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 06, 2014, 05:59:34 PM
I'm so tired of successful black people lecturing people sinking in poverty on how they should act. Looting is wrong, sure. But I wouldn't aim my anger at the looter anymore than I'd aim my anger at a mother forced to steal in order to feed her children because she can't find a job and her husband/boyfriend/whatever left her. Now, looters who went to Ferguson solely to loot can get fucked, I have no sympathy for them. But those from the community who expressed their anger in the only way they felt they could? I'm not going to shit on those people.

If you want to call names and lecture and stamp your foot, do so at a socioeconomic structure that systematically burdens the poor - whether they be black in Watts or white in Appalachians.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on December 06, 2014, 06:08:44 PM
Respectability politics don't work. full stop. You'd still be getting shot with your pants up and hood down. Black youths are literally demonized and it's not because of the type of clothes they're wearing. Victim blaming solves nothing, it just passes the buck.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2014, 06:12:21 PM
I'm tired of blacks being above looting and rioting when looting and rioting is a big reason we got the civil rights act to begin with, and whites have historically gotten they what wanted (labor laws for instance) through that same very thing. So when you have blacks who say not to riot or loot because it makes us look bad, they ignore the fact that doing so, on top of protest gets things done and makes the powers that be pay attention.

I have no clue how black Americans and Americans in general have become so soft but I definitely attribute a complete misunderstanding and ignorance of history on top of government propaganda/fear that violence doesn't solve things.

We have a country that tells people not to riot or loot while idolizing events like the Boston Tea Party.

Lesson learned: Americans are fucking stupid.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
Also the whole "if we acted differently maybe bububu" is some Stockholm syndrome white supremacist claptrap. We have anime cosplayers being shot at by police and rich black men being arrested for breaking into his own home.

Guess what middle class blacks! You're BLACK. Your money WON'T save you.

:pacspit middle and upper middle class blacks :pacspit
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
reading a book about my great great great grandfather called More Than A Slave: The Biography of Rev. A.J. Hurdle

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=35616

:obama

I've never met Hannah. Haven't been to a Hurdle family reunion in years.

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2014, 03:14:38 AM
For maurice who asked me for hair tips earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uas6Rj79Wo
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on December 18, 2014, 03:36:46 AM
Everytime i start to grow my hair out I just can't be bothered and get it cut again. Don't know if thats me internalizing bullshit or just having a preference which stems from having my hair low all the when I was younger which might just be internalized shit from my mother that was passed on to me. I love my sister with her hair out though and I let her know everytime I see her.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on December 18, 2014, 09:29:29 AM
What's the longest you've gotten it to grow?  Mine is really curly/nappy so it's always short.  I didn't get a cut from September-early December and it was still less than an inch off of my head when I combed it.  I've gone much longer without shaving it in the past and it always stops growing at about the same point.

And yeah my mom always made me go to the barber about once a month too.  She would tell me I could keep it if I brushed and combed regularly but I never felt like doing that.  Still don't really.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on December 18, 2014, 10:14:54 AM
What's the longest you've gotten it to grow?  Mine is really curly/nappy so it's always short.  I didn't get a cut from September-early December and it was still less than an inch off of my head when I combed it.  I've gone much longer without shaving it in the past and it always stops growing at about the same point.

And yeah my mom always made me go to the barber about once a month too.  She would tell me I could keep it if I brushed and combed regularly but I never felt like doing that.  Still don't really.

(http://i.imgur.com/7gMvGN8.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 18, 2014, 10:36:23 AM
Thanks Himu. I've been following your advice and definitely think I'm making progress. My hair is less dry and I've had fewer flakes. For those that don't know, my hair is naturally curly and somewhat straight-ish; it would take me forever to grow an afro because my hair tends to lay down moreso than grow upward. It's been dry for the last few years, and flaky. My barber says it's not dandruff because there isn't a smell.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on December 18, 2014, 10:38:25 AM
Still have all your hair brehs...

 :hitler resembles me now

:tocry
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2014, 01:16:09 PM
Technically, you don't need to go to the barber. Unless you want your fro reshaped or trimmed. Going to the barber often takes away growth because barbers fuck things up. If you want growth, barbers can be a detriment unless you want REALLY need a trim.

Split ends? You can take care of those yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwOIZgwzPpo

Detangle on a weekly basis while you condition (literally have the conditioner in your hair for moisturizer while you detangle).

Products I use:

For growth/sealant

(http://i.imgur.com/G90vHyX.jpg?1)

For growth:

(http://i.imgur.com/Nhanejh.jpg)

body wash (my skin is flawless now)

(http://i.imgur.com/K9x4rCR.jpg?1)

Shea butter for skin healing and extra sealed moisture, also use it in my hair every now and then:

(http://i.imgur.com/wAONBlJ.jpg?1)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 18, 2014, 01:29:37 PM
Nah girl I gotta get my caeser w/sides tapered. I'll get my next cut after the new years holiday. A cut once a month or so; last cut was right before Thanksgiving. I can tell using coconut oil cream will allow me to increase the span of time between cuts - I look pretty good right now, I just prefer how I look with a fresh cut nahmean.

My barber is a 50+ yo guy, been cutting my hair for nearly a decade.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on December 18, 2014, 01:32:00 PM
Somebody fix those pic sizes. I don't really require a 2000x1500 pic to show me what shae butter is.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2014, 01:35:09 PM
What's the longest you've gotten it to grow?  Mine is really curly/nappy so it's always short.  I didn't get a cut from September-early December and it was still less than an inch off of my head when I combed it.  I've gone much longer without shaving it in the past and it always stops growing at about the same point.

And yeah my mom always made me go to the barber about once a month too.  She would tell me I could keep it if I brushed and combed regularly but I never felt like doing that.  Still don't really.

Your hair sounds like mine unless that's because you're not combing/brushing.

My hair looks really short but goes down to my chin if I stretch it. I got that nappiness. :(

Daily brushing/combing can actually be a detriment for growth if you're like me and have sensitive hair.

Try detangling your hair weekly during your conditioning regimen. If you do it right, your hair may be manageable with just some oils. Like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N23AIg4m_s4

Assuming this isn't too girly a hair style for you. :yeshrug
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on December 18, 2014, 01:39:33 PM
My girl has these, I remember seeing them. I'm gonna steal some

(http://i.imgur.com/Nhanejh.jpg)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
they're delicious ;_; If you're going to eat em don't eat more than two at a time because of the high biotin
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on December 18, 2014, 05:27:58 PM
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2014/12/don-lemon-fuccboi-of-the-year
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2014, 05:31:58 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 18, 2014, 05:45:12 PM
"There are ways to not perform oral sex" has to be up there with "there are ways to get a toe before 3PM" in terms of sheer absurdity.

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on December 18, 2014, 06:04:15 PM
Should the term "struggle" be retired? (http://i2.minus.com/iISiyHKxKrsxZ.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2014, 06:08:21 PM
are white people using it yet?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on December 18, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
Not that I know of, but I feel it's run it's course. I actually think it's kind of lame now.

Caucasian usage will just be the nail in the coffin, really.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Steve Contra on December 19, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
are white people using it yet?
Uh, yeah.  We've been on that shit for months now.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2014, 05:07:11 PM
is that why i haven't seen black people use it in like almost a year
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Steve Contra on December 19, 2014, 05:09:51 PM
Probably.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on January 07, 2015, 04:36:59 PM
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/631-new-blackness-pharrell-kanye-and-jay-z-and-the-spectre-of-white-aspiration/

And a short by Ronald Wimberly (a favorite comic artist/writer of mine):
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/a020274e2a4404cadadf2a13ef12a4dd/tumblr_nhsw52LKLR1r2bbsto1_500.jpg)
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/8d43497fad89827f9c805de71f8a0e30/tumblr_nhsw52LKLR1r2bbsto2_500.jpg)
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/fd13fa6e8a286c5ea873d4e5ed86bd32/tumblr_nhsw52LKLR1r2bbsto4_500.jpg)
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/ca274a44d90195124983feb09dd54b10/tumblr_nhsw52LKLR1r2bbsto3_500.jpg)
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/7e75ad00682d750fa282d6857347a973/tumblr_nhsw52LKLR1r2bbsto6_r1_500.jpg)

http://d3-14.tumblr.com/post/107418029717/a-different-world-ronald-wimberly-01-15
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2015, 06:18:14 PM
I'm trying to understand that comic. Are they saying we shouldn't call the system broken if it protects people like Bill cosby? Or is it saying if the system is broken we shouldn't point fingers at one of our own? I'm trying to find a point and all I'm getting is a dead end. Also, both viewpoints are stupid. The first is unhelpful because it shows a rich and powerful man can rape and sexually abuse without repercussions, proving the system is biased and thus, broken. The second point is that these two issues are neither here nor there. Black pride doesn't mean being a dummy and supporting a dude who takes girls to his hotel and coerces them into a sex dazed drugged stupor. Given the light of the accusations and how many of them there are, tying bill Cosby to any sense of black pride movement is foolish and silly.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on January 07, 2015, 06:47:23 PM
I think what it's saying, given the tags on the tumblr post is as much as we cry unity we're still divded. In the sense that we don't ride for black women, or women in general the way we ride for our men. That we should be fighting more for each other instead of focusing on where all these lines are drawn (in this case im specifically talking about black people as a whole regardless of gender/sexuality). Look how quick he was to call her out.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Your Stalker on January 07, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
edit: yung toku-chan has it
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2015, 07:59:00 PM
I think what it's saying, given the tags on the tumblr post is as much as we cry unity we're still divded. In the sense that we don't ride for black women, or women in general the way we ride for our men. That we should be fighting more for each other instead of focusing on where all these lines are drawn (in this case im specifically talking about black people as a whole regardless of gender/sexuality). Look how quick he was to call her out.

I think that the comic doesn't demonstrate this at all, then. I certainly don't see how the bill cosby situation is demonstrative towards black unity, especially since a majority of the women he raped are white. And because Bill is black doesn't mean we need to ride for him or for every black person. If you're going to make a point about divided and not yet united, I sure as fuck wouldn't use the Bill Cosby situation as an example.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on January 15, 2015, 08:45:04 PM
http://youtu.be/LTp9c9bsY_Q
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2015, 01:54:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsGEAQ7gAiI
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
:mindblown
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on February 13, 2015, 08:40:00 PM
Looking for some more details I found this: http://news.yahoo.com/alabama-policeman-arrested-charges-assaulting-indian-visitor-191047608.html

The guy that threw him to the ground is a "field training officer". :goty
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Beezy on February 13, 2015, 11:27:49 PM
https://vine.co/v/OPhlXVzA9T7  :snoop
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 17, 2015, 11:56:07 PM
https://twitter.com/OGMaco/status/578039510627328000

(http://i.imgur.com/s50yprd.gif)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 18, 2015, 12:08:16 AM
I want to use it, but only so I can sing along to Wu-Tang Clan.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 18, 2015, 08:36:12 AM
LOL @ the black CACS (And PD) on the Coli crying about taking away rep.

:ufup
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2015, 08:41:02 AM
Having e-rep is so cack

that shit don't count on da streets where I live
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 18, 2015, 08:43:09 AM
Having e-rep is so cack

that shit don't count on da streets where I live

The badass streets of Finland brehs.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/4b/6f/9a/4b6f9ae949e4ff319a54077b962e1365.jpg)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on March 18, 2015, 08:47:49 AM
*Denmark.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 18, 2015, 08:49:05 AM
The badass streets of Finland Denmark brehs

(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/867/449/e0b/resized/meanwhile-in-denmark-meme-generator-meanwhile-in-denmark-bcfaef.jpg?1327103932.jpg)

There's a goofy fuck from Denmark that lives in my town. He thinks he's a cowboy. It's all very strange to see in person. He got arrested for riding his horse into a bar once to impress a girl. Girl told him to fuck off and dropped a dime to the rollers.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Meanwhile today near my apartment

(http://i.imgur.com/X5wuJx3.jpg)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 18, 2015, 10:23:21 AM
Please bro


www.cleveland.com

That's every day
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Positive Touch on March 18, 2015, 11:34:39 AM
Lolol "injured"

do it right or don't do it at all ya damn eurotrash
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2015, 04:49:11 PM
Prob the first time they held a gun man
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 27, 2015, 05:14:37 PM
Quote
Alabama Ex-Cop Indicted For Body Slamming Indian Grandfather

A former Alabama police officer was brought up on federal civil rights charges stemming from a February incident that left a visiting Indian grandfather partially paralyzed, the Justice Department announced Friday.

A federal grand jury handed down a one-count indictment against Eric Sloan Parker, 26, for allegedly injuring the man by slamming him to the ground. Parker subsequently turned himself in and was arrested on third-degree assault charges. He was later fired from the Madison, Ala. Police Department.

The indictment alleges Parker "deprived the man in Madison of his right under the U.S. Constitution to be secure from unreasonable seizures, which includes the right to be free from unreasonable force by someone acting under color of law," according to a Justice Department press release.

Sureshbhai Patel was visiting his son in Madison when Parker allegedly stopped him while he was walking in his son's neighborhood on Feb. 6. Graphic dash cam video of the stop showed an officer slamming Patel into the ground. Patel is identified only as "S.P" in the Justice Department press release.

The ex-police officer's attorney told the Associated Press that his client would plead not guilty to the federal charges.

"We are shocked, disappointed and overwhelmed by all the ways Eric Parker is coming under attack," attorney Robert Tuten told the AP by email. "However, we are looking forward to seeing the indictment and having our day in court."

Patel has also filed a civil lawsuit against Parker, according to the AP.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-sloan-parker-charged-unreasonable-force-slamming-grandfather

Good. Holder da gawd.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 31, 2015, 05:16:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSrGmHsT8s
:beli
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 31, 2015, 05:50:21 PM
Esch I just want to let you know that if you are ever driving my taxi, I wouldn't let four cops beat and taze you without saying 'Hey guys is that really necessary?' quietly.  You're my bro.  I'd also film it
spoiler (click to show/hide)
for the youtube views
[close]
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on April 03, 2015, 12:17:51 PM
:ufup
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on April 03, 2015, 12:55:05 PM
Dude is great in The 100. I hope spewing garbage like this doesn't cost him the job like saying taco cost him Grey's Anatomy.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on April 03, 2015, 01:16:43 PM
We all live with the choices we make.

also :hitler are you watching the entire CW sci-fi lineup?

Yes.

 :'(

They're just so ahead of everyone else in terms of nailing this pulp shit outside of a few other examples on other networks. Syfy originals are just now hitting solid.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on April 03, 2015, 01:26:58 PM
Tomorrow People was bland as fuck yeah but in typical CW fashion most of their cast ended up on other very similar shows (Agents of Shield, The Flash) lmao.

If you're a young actor coming landing a CW show must be like heaven. If it's good, you probably looking at 3+ seasons of work. If it's bad? You'll probably get jobs out of it anyway. That witch show that was horrible and failed a few years ago? Most of the cast ended up on another hit CW show, cable or doing massive disney movies. The black girl on it went from playing a high schooler to doing full frontal nudity on starz  :lawd
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2015, 01:30:18 PM
I came in here to cosign any Ls aimed Washington's way but...that's not as coonish as I was led to believe. Don't get me wrong, I disagree with his comment about Rock needing a cheaper car. But his explanation is interesting, and not the "we don't respect ourselves/it's our fault" coonery I expected. He's basically saying we are engaged in battle with white supremecy and taking losses, thus it doesn't make sense to take unnessicary losses over petty shit because we can't afford it.

I'm not saying I agree, but it's an interesting concept. I was sure he was sucking up to the white man in an attempt to get a good tv job again but that's not the case. This is something I could imagine John Connor telling the human race after Skynet fucks us brehs. I kind of wish I smoked kush because I could sit down and vibe to this brehs.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 04, 2015, 07:28:07 PM
stumbled across this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBpu_MWxYtM

:snoop
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 04, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U_VtiyXQeY
:dead

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ethering TLR tho
:hitler
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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 05, 2015, 06:04:13 PM
His arguments are so deceptively simple. Psychologists used to believe homosexuality was a mental disorder...sure. Should we list the various other things psychologists and scientists once inaccurately said about maligned groups, such as black people? Drapetomania and The Bell Curve come to mind.

So much of his shit revolves around controlling how you think. If you're familiar with certain religions or cults you're familiar with the basic concept that anything that takes your attention away from [insert religious or cult priority] is considered subversive or dangerous. I vividly remember all the anti-Pokemon talks and classes that were held when I was a kid, growing up in a religious setting. Same thing happened with Harry Potter and every other popular thing that explodes. But faux black militants focus on hip hop, Empire, etc.

Also you see that Coli hatred of black men doesn't exist in a vacuum. I know a shit ton of people who believe this shit. The idea that black women are essentially property of the black man. That any sexual or professional freedom on their part is a sign of wickedness or "bedwenching."

He's pimping on a small scale. Pimping impresionable, bitter people who don't have money. I just saw her had a GoFund campaign trying to raise 4mil to buy a school....ended up only raising 50k. That's about right, given the demographic he reaches. But he'll use that failure to shame people into further supporting his next thing, which will be smaller.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 06, 2015, 11:40:39 AM
@Esch explain
(http://i.imgur.com/TBQ3Tii.png)

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"I got into medical school because I said I was black," writes Mindy Kaling's older brother Vijay Chokal-Ingam on his website AlmostBlack.com. "The funny thing is I’m not." Is that funny?

As an undergraduate at the University of Chicago, Chokal-Ingam says that he shaved his head, trimmed his eyelashes, and started going by his middle name (Jojo) after coming to the realization that he wasn't likely to be accepted at the medical schools he aspired to attend with his current resume.

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    I discovered that being a black man had some fairly interesting upsides — other than giving me a leg up with medical schools, was that suddenly women SAW me. Not in the profound Návi way, but in the "I wanna bang you. NOW," way.

    As a black man I somehow fell heir to a powerful (but thoroughly enjoyable) sexual magnetism that was just as tangible and puzzling to all of my Indian American friends as it was to me.
http://gawker.com/mindy-kalings-brother-is-a-cool-prankster-upsetting-the-1695820843
:dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on April 06, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
They will be disappointed when he takes down his pants tho....
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on April 06, 2015, 01:53:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/SZMeuDC.jpg)

:dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on April 09, 2015, 12:31:10 PM
This video syncs the police scanner to the cell phone video. :fbm
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/apr/09/north-charleston-shooting-police-scanner-video
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 15, 2015, 06:07:43 PM
@Esch explain
(http://i.imgur.com/TBQ3Tii.png)

Quote
"I got into medical school because I said I was black," writes Mindy Kaling's older brother Vijay Chokal-Ingam on his website AlmostBlack.com. "The funny thing is I’m not." Is that funny?

As an undergraduate at the University of Chicago, Chokal-Ingam says that he shaved his head, trimmed his eyelashes, and started going by his middle name (Jojo) after coming to the realization that he wasn't likely to be accepted at the medical schools he aspired to attend with his current resume.

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    I discovered that being a black man had some fairly interesting upsides — other than giving me a leg up with medical schools, was that suddenly women SAW me. Not in the profound Návi way, but in the "I wanna bang you. NOW," way.

    As a black man I somehow fell heir to a powerful (but thoroughly enjoyable) sexual magnetism that was just as tangible and puzzling to all of my Indian American friends as it was to me.
http://gawker.com/mindy-kalings-brother-is-a-cool-prankster-upsetting-the-1695820843
:dead


powerful (but thoroughly enjoyable) sexual magnetism 

:lol

Thinking I should get a tan and shave my head. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 15, 2015, 06:16:10 PM
But if you do Sushi Girl will call the cops when you walk into the restaurant.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 15, 2015, 06:32:41 PM
Ya but her panties will be soaked as they slap the cuffs on me
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Positive Touch on April 20, 2015, 11:27:38 AM
and it's someone who grew up in the town so they all knew her, they just couldn't stand the idea of a black woman being their boss smh Missouri
also here cops in north county gunned down a 23 mentally ill dude armed with a knife after his mother called the police to come take him to the hospital.

and on Saturday ppl put up a tree and plaque in memory of Mike Brown and by Sunday the tree was snapped in half and the plaque was gone.

it's heating up around here
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 20, 2015, 05:36:50 PM
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Yet Obama wasn’t too frightened to confront West. According to Jonathan Alter’s 2013 book, The Center Holds: Obama and His Enemies, at the 2010 National Urban League convention, Obama barked at West, “I’m not progressive? What kind of shit is this?” Other foul words were uttered, West added, and Obama “cussed me out.” A photo of the exchange exists: West frozen like a dear brother in the headlights as he smiled broadly and stood speechless.

:dead

Most exciting black intellectual ever? I'm going to have to think on that. My instant reaction is fuck no, but I'll stew on this first...
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 20, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
Oh, I thought that article was going to be about Neil deGrasse Tyson. :hitler
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 20, 2015, 06:07:36 PM
Dyson :whew

I showed you your first crush, that tour with Anita Baker
Then I heard you was using co-writers, you're a faker
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on April 23, 2015, 10:52:01 PM
https://youtu.be/oFFQkQ6Va3A
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on April 24, 2015, 07:34:58 PM
(http://q9ajg3m8r764ux2l1qldhv3k5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/bat-flip-1.gif)

(http://notsportscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/korean_bat_flip1.gif)
Needs to become common in the states
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 26, 2015, 03:49:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svvaLZqHwxM
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 27, 2015, 07:13:19 PM
:drudge
https://twitter.com/donlemon/status/592826847639003137?s=09

Now we just need to figure out where's Ja.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on April 27, 2015, 08:00:31 PM
:drudge
https://twitter.com/donlemon/status/592826847639003137?s=09

Now we just need to figure out where's Ja.

https://twitter.com/desusnice/status/592830224989089793
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 27, 2015, 09:29:57 PM
meta writing beef :lawd



http://deadspin.com/how-jason-whitlock-is-poisoning-espns-black-grantland-1698683962

breh we've been discussing this in the NBA thread. I was gonna PM you to join the fuckery
:rejoice

I cannot stand that man. And fuck Mike Wise, who is basically the Richard Cohen of sports writing.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 27, 2015, 09:52:53 PM
Wanted to be on every last one of my columns. :lawd

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: dkdk on April 27, 2015, 09:55:20 PM
wish we could zap that fat fuck from existence. like...

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My background is football and team sports. My leadership model is taken from my participation in sports. The head coach of a team often calls plays that the players and assistant coaches second-guess. The great players and assistants — the great leaders — execute those plays as enthusiastically and efficiently as the plays they love because they believe in the head coach. This is an area of weakness for you, or you have very little faith in the head coach. As long as it remains a weakness, do not plan on gaining my confidence. Your current chosen strategy for long-term success within this project and at ESPN is bizarre and unwise. It’s undermining my resolve to help you. I don’t think you want my help.

get fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.

not only is this dude a coon but he's a bitchass motherfucker in general.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 27, 2015, 10:46:22 PM
"A great leader recognizes good leadership and follows."
              /
(http://i.imgur.com/4KkUncK.png)


"Write on Monday what everyone else will think to write on Friday."
             /
(http://i.imgur.com/4KkUncK.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 27, 2015, 10:48:38 PM
 “Black athletes need to be led. Muhammad Ali was not a leader. He was a follower. Someone told him what to say. No offense to Mr. Ali, but boxers do not moonlight as doctors or rocket scientists.”
(http://i.imgur.com/5eOgbMA.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2015, 11:00:49 PM
wish we could zap that fat fuck from existence. like...

Quote
My background is football and team sports. My leadership model is taken from my participation in sports. The head coach of a team often calls plays that the players and assistant coaches second-guess. The great players and assistants — the great leaders — execute those plays as enthusiastically and efficiently as the plays they love because they believe in the head coach. This is an area of weakness for you, or you have very little faith in the head coach. As long as it remains a weakness, do not plan on gaining my confidence. Your current chosen strategy for long-term success within this project and at ESPN is bizarre and unwise. It’s undermining my resolve to help you. I don’t think you want my help.

get fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.

not only is this dude a coon but he's a bitchass motherfucker in general.
Eh, it’s good for a Negro.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 28, 2015, 12:32:57 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/nonviolence-as-compliance/391640/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on April 28, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3Rb9mIOivI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3Rb9mIOivI)

(http://i.imgur.com/Tsxl6CM.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 28, 2015, 01:58:30 PM
https://twitter.com/ACFromDaBranch/status/592839101574946817
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: dkdk on April 28, 2015, 07:56:49 PM
 :rejoice Point it out councilman

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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on April 28, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-553b037c/turbine/bal-freddie-gray-photographs-20150419-018/650/650x366)

(http://i2.minus.com/i6P2EGLjoNGyQ.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 28, 2015, 09:46:05 PM
Is that the confederate version of the pan African flag?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 28, 2015, 11:02:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyYdKD0af78&feature=youtu.be&a
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on April 28, 2015, 11:18:30 PM
I can't tell where Wolf Blitzer ends and Don Lemon begins.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on April 28, 2015, 11:35:30 PM
https://twitter.com/ACFromDaBranch/status/592839101574946817
Don't like this Punisher reboot, what is Marvel doing?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on April 29, 2015, 12:20:51 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/04/28/social-media-analysis-suggests-links-between-baltimore-and-ferguson-violence/
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EXCLUSIVE - An analysis of social media traffic in downtown Baltimore Monday has unearthed striking connections to the protests in Ferguson, Mo. last year, according to a leading data mining firm that shared its findings exclusively with Fox News.

The firm, which asked to remain anonymous because of its government work, found between 20 and 50 social media accounts in Baltimore that were also tied to the peak period of violence in Ferguson. While further analysis is being conducted on the data, it suggests the presence of "professional protesters" or anarchists taking advantage of Freddie Gray's death to incite more violence.

...

One account, which also tracked the recent union protests in New York City as well as other disturbances, tweeted photos of Gray's funeral and used language that seemed to anticipate violence in Baltimore.

The discovery that some social media accounts were tied to cities 825 miles apart was described to Fox News as “surprising.” While it is possible to spoof accounts and make it appear as if someone is in one location when they are really in another, the data mining firm told Fox News that it can’t fully explain the numbers.

The use of social media to fuel violence in Baltimore has already been highlighted by law enforcement. On Monday, police said an online call was issued for a "purge" at 3 p.m. ET, starting at Mondawmin Mall and ending in the downtown area. That type of threat is based on a movie called “The Purge,”  the plot of which involves rampant lawlessness.

The Washington Times also reported Monday that law enforcement intelligence officials issued a warning after someone sent a text urging people to “kill all white police officers” in reaction to Gray’s death. The text has fueled fears that the violence in Baltimore could spread nationally, according to safety memos obtained by The Washington Times.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 29, 2015, 04:08:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68rpl0rFQTU

be a puppet brehs
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 29, 2015, 05:07:44 PM
according to a leading data mining firm that shared its findings exclusively with Fox News.

The firm, which asked to remain anonymous because of its government work,
[/quote]

Trust us guys, this is totally legit. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 29, 2015, 05:10:07 PM

The discovery that some social media accounts were tied to cities 825 miles apart was described to Fox News as “surprising.”

Also, Fox news says that Fox news said that this is "surprising"?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 29, 2015, 06:54:53 PM
Mother Jones has an interesting piece on how the riots in Baltimore got started:

Quote from: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/how-baltimore-riots-began-mondawmin-purge
The funeral of Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old black man who died in police custody this month, had ended hours earlier at a nearby church. According to the Baltimore Sun, a call to "purge"—a reference to the 2013 dystopian film in which all crime is made legal for one night—circulated on social media among school-aged Baltimoreans that morning. The rumored plan—which was not traced to any specific person or group—was to assemble at the Mondawmin Mall at 3 p.m. and proceed down Pennsylvania Avenue toward downtown Baltimore. The Baltimore Police Department, which was aware of the "purge" call, prepared for the worst. Shortly before noon, the department issued a statement saying it had "received credible information that members of various gangs…have entered into a partnership to 'take-out' law enforcement officers."

When school let out that afternoon, police were in the area equipped with full riot gear. According to eyewitnesses in the Mondawmin neighborhood, the police were stopping busses and forcing riders, including many students who were trying to get home, to disembark. Cops shut down the local subway stop. They also blockaded roads near the Mondawmin Mall and Frederick Douglass High School, which is across the street from the mall, and essentially corralled young people in the area. That is, they did not allow the after-school crowd to disperse.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on April 29, 2015, 07:18:45 PM
Mother Jones has an interesting piece on how the riots in Baltimore got started:

Quote from: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/how-baltimore-riots-began-mondawmin-purge
The funeral of Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old black man who died in police custody this month, had ended hours earlier at a nearby church. According to the Baltimore Sun, a call to "purge"—a reference to the 2013 dystopian film in which all crime is made legal for one night—circulated on social media among school-aged Baltimoreans that morning. The rumored plan—which was not traced to any specific person or group—was to assemble at the Mondawmin Mall at 3 p.m. and proceed down Pennsylvania Avenue toward downtown Baltimore. The Baltimore Police Department, which was aware of the "purge" call, prepared for the worst. Shortly before noon, the department issued a statement saying it had "received credible information that members of various gangs…have entered into a partnership to 'take-out' law enforcement officers."

When school let out that afternoon, police were in the area equipped with full riot gear. According to eyewitnesses in the Mondawmin neighborhood, the police were stopping busses and forcing riders, including many students who were trying to get home, to disembark. Cops shut down the local subway stop. They also blockaded roads near the Mondawmin Mall and Frederick Douglass High School, which is across the street from the mall, and essentially corralled young people in the area. That is, they did not allow the after-school crowd to disperse.

Hindsight's a real bitch
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 29, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
So is the police freaking out over reports of some kind of super-gang starting a war on cops.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on April 30, 2015, 11:27:21 AM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/baltimore-residents-urged-to-stay-indoors-until-so%2C38511/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on April 30, 2015, 11:39:11 AM
So is the police freaking out over reports of some kind of super-gang starting a war on cops.

I take that narrative with a huge cup of salt. Same thing with the "Gangs pushed protestors to only demolish non black storefronts." Somehow within the chaos of a ton of people running about, I just don't see anyone guiding that nonsense in any serious way. It all sounds of that "Reporting what I hear not what I see" sort of shit from newscrews. "My sources are twitter, facebook and this random dude on the street dancing like MJ. Don Lemon out"

I've seen a single NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/live/confrontation-in-baltimore/church-leaders-gang-members-meet/) article about it and even then it's just some dude on the street. Yet it's somehow become the narrative for the entire riot.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 30, 2015, 12:00:38 PM
I like these articles.  How did the riot start?  Pretty sure it started with a dead black dude in police custody. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 30, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
Clearly the only good outcome to all this is that the wire has been back in news

http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/wendell-pierce-wire-reflects-baltimores-real-life-struggle/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 30, 2015, 05:12:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hOoW0U6g_E&feature=youtu.be

kind of crazy: Here is a white MIT prof. here to tell us why blacks rioted.  Couldn't get away with that today.

The ending for prof's suggestions on how to fix the problem, 1) income redistribution, 2) less unemployment, 3) guaranteed minimum income (for the poor).

Also the pretty crazy focus on radicals starting the riots and conspiracies, which hasn't changed as well.  "It's like Ok MIT prof, why did this happen."  "Well its partially social and partially economic"  "...That's nice, now lets talk to this man with an obscured face tell you how he knows of these black panthers that are going to kill you in your sleep".

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2015, 05:37:28 PM
My mom grew up in Detroit and remembers seeing tanks roll past her house. Although to this day she refuses to call it a riot, she calls it a "disturbance."

smh lol
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on April 30, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
So is the police freaking out over reports of some kind of super-gang starting a war on cops.
I've been hearing that for decades now. It's just like the second coming of Jesus. Ain't happening.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 30, 2015, 08:06:09 PM
So is the police freaking out over reports of some kind of super-gang starting a war on cops.
I've been hearing that for decades now. It's just like the second coming of Jesus. Ain't happening.

It's definitely one-third of the Holy Trinity of white paranoia, along with mass infiltration by foreign agents and the complete destruction of personal rights by the federal government.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 30, 2015, 11:20:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJL9tPy3rtc

These 60's videos are incredible.  "Say race relationships to whites and they want to talk about riots.  Say it to blacks and they want to talk about discrimination"  1968 just about a half century ago. 

lol the women defending her view that blacks are less intelligent 'there is a book that says black children develop to an IQ of 80, while whites get to 90.'  :lol  Guess Asians skewed that shit back then too.

Holy shit, 1/4 of whites said that the 'some states' (with a big brown spot on the southern states on the shown map) should be given as a separate country for blacks.  1/3 were ok with this is that country was in Africa. 

'it may be fair to conclude that black extremists have been given more attention in the media than their presence in the black community demands', after giving stats on how blacks say they don't agree with black radicals. 


'whites think racial equality will happen in 100 years.  blacks expect it in 50'
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on May 01, 2015, 12:27:35 AM
 :(
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 01, 2015, 12:36:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9BKXQ8ROlw

I like the commercials.  Its like 'Blacks have no fathers; brought to you buy Vaseline hand lotion.'
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 01, 2015, 11:14:16 PM
No one watched the videos?  :(  I get it this is how this thread is going down  http://i.imgur.com/9kCykN5.gifv
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 01, 2015, 11:23:06 PM
I've seen the NBC one before. Will watch the other.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121685/liberal-policies-arent-whats-wrong-baltimore?utm_content=buffer7cd75&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
focus on scoring political points for your team while ignoring history brehs
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on May 02, 2015, 01:01:02 AM
Is that Kevin Durant on the article? That dude looks and dresses a lot like Kevin Durant.

/allblackpeoplelookthesame
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on May 02, 2015, 01:14:18 AM
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Conservatives base this logic—that the city somehow proves government investment and social programs are bad policy—on a selective history of Baltimore, noting for instance that its residents have elected only one non-Democratic mayor since the 1940s.
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Federal and local policymakers of the time redlined areas with "undesirable racial concentrations" to omit them from mortgage insurance programs.

And over the century, the same neighborhoods faced one destructive policy after another, from mass incarceration to the rise of predatory banks.

“If the goal of early segregationist policies was to concentrate black Baltimoreans in a single location, separated from opportunity, then it worked,” Jamelle Bouie writes at Slate. “More importantly, it’s never been unraveled; there’s never been a full effort to undo and compensate for the policies of the past. Indeed, the two decades of drugs and crime that marred Baltimore in the 1980s and 1990s helped entrench the harm and worsen the scars of the city’s history.”
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throughout Baltimore’s history, lawmakers at the local, state, and federal level adopted policies that entrenched poverty and segregation in the city.

As the Washington Post notes, research from the Virginia Commonwealth University’s Center on Society and Health shows that the segregated black neighborhoods of the 1930s “still have lower rates of homeownership and college attainment and higher rates of poverty and segregation today—as well as worse health outcomes.” Another fact from the Post: “From 1951 to 1971, 80 to 90 percent of the 25,000 families displaced in Baltimore to build new highways, schools and housing projects were black.” Only a decade ago, banks marketed subprime mortgages to poor black homebuyers, leading to a wave of foreclosures.

The tough-on-crime approach WSJ suggests only made things worse. During Thomas Carcetti's mayorship, arrests spiked as police swept up people for offenses as minor as loitering by targeting low-income neighborhoods with Carcetti's database, CitiState. Today, neighborhoods like Sandtown-Winchester in West Baltimore, which is 97 percent black and where half the households earn less than $25,000 a year, are still reeling from these policies. 
Democrats couldn't have failed Baltimore during their reign of absolute power because they adopted bipartisan, corrupt and wrongheaded policies, just like Republicans do!

The cac author of this piece was born in say, 1989. (Started her BA in 2007.) Like a lot of these other writers who mostly came of age in the 1990s they haven't and don't study any of the stuff like Father Mike is posting that "reset" the post-Civil Rights table of relations between the races and the new urban/suburban divide, nor how much it was the elite of black communities that wanted the vicious crackdowns on drugs, especially crack, during the overall expansion of the War on Drugs during the Reagan years.

The decline, fall and creation of "rings" around all the major eastern cities (where the suburbs and downtown are for middle class or higher mostly whites and the inbetween is for everyone else) is all whitewashed away in a narrative of "budget "cuts", "underfunding", racism, gentrification, etc." as if those things just randomly occurred out of bad luck that piled up on each other.

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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on May 09, 2015, 10:46:38 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEmFmwQUgAAL3Nk.jpg)

Ah yes, the classic 'the devil was in the house' line
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 09, 2015, 11:02:56 PM
What was a lead in?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 15, 2015, 03:56:11 PM
http://www.ibtimes.com/georgia-principal-nancy-gordeuk-fired-over-racist-graduation-remarks-blames-devil-1922176
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on May 15, 2015, 04:56:38 PM
http://www.ibtimes.com/georgia-principal-nancy-gordeuk-fired-over-racist-graduation-remarks-blames-devil-1922176

I don't blame the people for leaving tbh.
If I could bounce once my kid got his diploma I would.
Fucking graduation ceremony at my university was so fucking long.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on May 16, 2015, 12:29:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: VomKriege on May 16, 2015, 01:54:21 PM
Not what I was expecting with this title  :lol
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 16, 2015, 04:10:30 PM
Ya that cut off too soon and no description about what happened after in the link.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 30, 2015, 01:12:08 PM
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/local/2015/05/27/maple-grove-couple-terrorized-by-woman-at-gunpoint-while-going-to-pick-up-their-son/28050055/

they look pretty fair skinned but still putting it here.

Not being investigated as a hate crime  :holeup
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 15, 2015, 07:38:03 PM
Dr. Umar Johnson caught up by a stripper who exposes his bullshit  :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMsaX3UyXo

needless to say the Coli is blowing up. Great response from arguably the best poster on the site: http://www.thecoli.com/posts/13833686/
:rejoice
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 11, 2015, 12:31:23 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/10/philadelphia-police-investigate-arrest-tyree-carroll

WTF
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on July 20, 2015, 12:46:50 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/rachel-dolezal-black-african-american-i-didn-t-mislead-anybody-143306933.html

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“I just feel like I didn’t mislead anybody; I didn’t deceive anybody,” Dolezal told Vanity Fair. “If people feel misled or deceived, then sorry that they feel that way, but I believe that’s more due to their definition and construct of race in their own minds than it is to my integrity or honesty, because I wouldn’t say I’m African-American, but I would say I’m black, and there’s a difference in those terms.”

 :dolezal
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2015, 10:34:02 AM
Amazing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-metta/i-racist_b_7770652.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000047
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 21, 2015, 11:12:59 AM
Its an OK article but it ties up race and social class into one thing which is wrong.  Like he says that whites are racist by being complicit and benefiting from a racist system and then mentions white flight as an example, however that's just a norm that rich people try to put them selves and their children in a safe environment which tends to mean moving away from poor people.  It just happens that at this time in America that means moving away from black poors.  Of course people are going to use their wealth to try to better their position, even at the cost of people that are poorer then them.  That's not inherently racist. However racism has been and is used a tool to do that.  The article doesn't make that distinction.  For example he says "better schools" exclusively means "whiter schools."  You could say "better schools" exclusively means "richer schools." and be just as correct.  I'm sure a community of black millionaires would have no problem sending their children to any school on mass (its just there isn't such community).

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Black people think in terms of we because we live in a society where the social and political structures interact with us as Black people.

White people do not think in terms of we. White people have the privilege to interact with the social and political structures of our society as individuals.

This is pretty important though.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2015, 11:14:41 AM
I have two issues with the article:

1. "Slavery is not racism." The type of slavery that we had in the America's was.

2. The hint that black people cannot be racist.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Positive Touch on July 21, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
I mean I've only lived in St Louis but around here "better schools" and "better neighborhoods" absolutely means "no blacks allowed." the implicit assumption is that black people will be violent so anywhere away from them is safer. there's plenty of neighborhoods around here where mansions are right down the street from tiny sixties-era houses and white ppl don't have a problem with it as long as it stays white. and the rich folks'll send their kids to a private school so they don't care about all that.

the assumption is that you must always stay in a majority-white area, for your own safety.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 21, 2015, 12:01:21 PM
Which is racist.  The point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't have to be and I don't think that is the case for a lot of people who move to better places.   I remember when my mom moved to a better neighborhood, I highly doubt she though that the neighborhood was good because their weren't any Natives there.  And if you make the distribution of wealth the exact same between white and black and that assumption that blacks are violent goes away (for the most part).  Then his argument essentially becomes anyone who benefits for this unequal wealth distribution is complicit in a racist system.  And as Himu points out, hits at that black people can't be racist.  What I'm saying is that taking advantage of your situation is absolutely normal; people want to get as rich as they can and if doing so automatically makes you a racist, then you have a very strange notion of racism.  I don't see a way for anyone to both be rich and white and not racist according to that article. 


I think its good that the article points out that institutionalized racism is still an issue, but I thought that was obvious.   
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
My biggest problem with the "black people can't be racist" argument is the insinuation that all black people are in the same position. There is a constant refusal to acknowledge the existence of a black middle class, or upper class. There are black people with "power," to make it simple. If a black businessman refuses to hire a white person based on race, he or she is being racist.

If you believe all white people are inherently evil...you're racist. etc.

(There are a lot of black people doing well in this country but I don't get the impression when I listen to a lot of discussions on the black plight. I recognize my family background isn't the norm, but neither is complete poverty the norm either)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2015, 02:48:25 PM
THIS HASHTAG

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23thingsIhateabouthoteps&src=typd
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 22, 2015, 04:52:28 PM
YES
:rejoice

finally a black hastag I can fully support with no asterisks
:tocry
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
These corny mother fuckers always about that Egyptian shit when our ancestors were from west Africa :neogaf it never ceases to be comedy how they pump their chest with the idea of black pride while at the same time unironically throwing their ancestors to the bushes by fetishing a single culture and country that our victims of the diaspora didn't even hail from.

:dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 22, 2015, 05:06:47 PM
The way they demand complete control of black women disgusts me. Not to mention the anger they display at the mere thought of black women being successful. After all, any type of success=the white man letting you do well, so therefore you must be an agent.

If I heard a black man use the phrase "bedwench" in a serious tone I'd probably open hand slap him.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2015, 05:08:45 PM
Would you challenge him to a duel?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 22, 2015, 05:28:40 PM
People still out here defending "Dr" Umar Johnson :neogaf

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mr. Nobody on July 22, 2015, 05:41:35 PM
People still out here defending "Dr" Umar Johnson :neogaf

Nicca has made no qualms about shitting on black people because he didn't get enough money for his "school" and they still follow him  :snoop
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on July 23, 2015, 12:53:58 AM
https://youtu.be/KPRA4g-3yEk
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 23, 2015, 05:54:24 PM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cardales-jones-osu-black-lives-matter

:dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 23, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
https://youtu.be/KPRA4g-3yEk

Being compared to a celebrity is a microagression?  Cause people say I look like zach galifianakis all the time.  Maybe it just doesn't effect me cause I have the right skin. 

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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 23, 2015, 07:32:14 PM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cardales-jones-osu-black-lives-matter

:dead

Even as a former Michigan stan/life long OSU hater...I gotta give the man a round of applause.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
Sandra Bland apparently ingested a large amount of weed in jail and they are suggesting that's what killed her. But how did she get a "large amount" in jail? How does one OD on weed? They said that she either smoked or ate it. So if she ate it, they didn't search her and weed has a VERY strong smell that goes through any porous object aka anything but glass, including ziplock bag, so even if they searched her they would have smelled it right then and there. If she smoked it, then they didn't smell it, which is impossible in such a small environment. Sandra was on her way to a job interview: what kind of person job searching and trying to get a job at a University of all places smokes or eats or buys weed when they know they'll be drug tested? But they said she hung herself - a six foot tall woman who hung herself on a five foot bar. So it wasn't that, but weed? Just admit you murdered her. Finally, Fuck The Police :)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on July 23, 2015, 07:53:36 PM
The weed did it, of course.
It made a noose out of a trash bag, strung her up then shoved itself down her throat.
Genius

 :ohhh

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Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 23, 2015, 07:57:05 PM
Dunno brehs. I doubt she "hung" herself but I could see her doing something to commit suicide, the cops catching her and letting her die instead of attempting to resuscitate her. I only say that because the video of the cell area makes it pretty clear no one entered during her time of death.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on July 23, 2015, 08:02:19 PM
Craziest shit though is ending up strung up in a jail cell because you fucked up and forgot to use a turn signal, that is like the worst kind of shit.
Like there's no excuse for that  :-\
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Steve Contra on July 23, 2015, 08:03:39 PM
No matter how she ended up dead WHY THE FUCK WAS SHE IN JAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 23, 2015, 08:06:00 PM
Articulate black people mouthing off to cops is like their kryponite. Dude was probably about to piss himself in anger. scust

Being a jerk to a cop isn't a good idea but bottom line is she shouldn't have been arrested in the first fucking place. Not to mention being asked to step out the vehicle and not responding to her questions.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 23, 2015, 09:19:06 PM
warning ranting racist women.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e70_1437533429#9rBUxYQ6DL0KgZus.16

gonna put this here cause I'm assuming the dude is brown.

Serious rage from this.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 24, 2015, 12:04:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNTWn3bAxI

:dead this nicca

I will say this: people antagonizing cops are fucking idiots.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2015, 12:06:32 AM
You definitely don't antagonize cops, but that doesn't mean she should die for it even if she's a fucking moron.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2015, 12:56:22 AM
These corny mother fuckers always about that Egyptian shit when our ancestors were from west Africa :neogaf it never ceases to be comedy how they pump their chest with the idea of black pride while at the same time unironically throwing their ancestors to the bushes by fetishing a single culture and country that our victims of the diaspora didn't even hail from.

:dead

...or when they go and claim European history up to late medieval era  :lol
What I love is that, no matter what the person's background his and whatever the site they decide to engage on with their schtick, they trot out the same ridiculous copy-paste about Diop, paintings and king's surnames.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2015, 12:59:59 AM
These corny mother fuckers always about that Egyptian shit when our ancestors were from west Africa :neogaf it never ceases to be comedy how they pump their chest with the idea of black pride while at the same time unironically throwing their ancestors to the bushes by fetishing a single culture and country that our victims of the diaspora didn't even hail from.

:dead

...or when they go and claim European history up to late medieval era  :lol
What I love is that, no matter what the person's background his and whatever the site they decide to engage on with their schtick, they trot out the same ridiculous copy-paste about Diop, paintings and king's surnames.

Explain this more. I haven't seen that.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2015, 01:19:47 AM
These corny mother fuckers always about that Egyptian shit when our ancestors were from west Africa :neogaf it never ceases to be comedy how they pump their chest with the idea of black pride while at the same time unironically throwing their ancestors to the bushes by fetishing a single culture and country that our victims of the diaspora didn't even hail from.

:dead

...or when they go and claim European history up to late medieval era  :lol
What I love is that, no matter what the person's background his and whatever the site they decide to engage on with their schtick, they trot out the same ridiculous copy-paste about Diop, paintings and king's surnames.

Explain this more. I haven't seen that.

There's a whole movement of people on the Internet claiming to be "afrocentrists", based (maybe very loosely) on works by Cheikh Anta Diop. They'll claim the egyptian heritage but will also try to convince you that up to the late medieval era, Europe ruling class were really all Black people. "Blue blood" is in fact black blood. Their evidence generally goes down of linking paintings with a black guy in it, painting of kings and nobles where the skin color is ever so slighty dark or where we are meant to see "obviously negroid features" (Yeah, some actually do talk and think like that), overreaching in interpreting surnames, etc... This (http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/king-charles-stuart-ii-king-of-england-aka-the-black-boy/) is a good example : the most vocal believers will generally bombard you with dozens of such filmsy cases. At one point, they claim, the black rulers of Europe were overthrown by the whites (or "leucoderms") who then proceded on inventing slavery and evil. Expect shenanigans about how Olmecs (or any given random past population) were black. Don't expect for any actual scientific relevance pertinent to migrations of the past. If you feel you are ready and have time to waste, enter the Black Matrix (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=544874)

Writing history from an African perspective is of course a valuable and meaningful course, but this particular brand of "Afrocentrism" is really just a naked fantasy of racial supremacism.

MAAT will set you free, brother.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2015, 02:58:12 AM
Oh, those Moor morons (lol).
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2015, 03:01:26 AM
Some guy in college told me that Beethoven was black. :goty He used to send me videos like that until he found out I'm a cheeseburger.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 24, 2015, 01:53:14 PM
:dead

If not for my cousin's recent "What the fuck...did you know armadillas are giving niccas leprosy now?" comment, that would be my comment of the month.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Steve Contra on July 24, 2015, 01:55:55 PM
The Beethoven is black thing has been going around for a long time.

http://www.academia.edu/4074689/Black_Beethoven_and_the_Racial_Politics_of_Music_History  (http://www.academia.edu/4074689/Black_Beethoven_and_the_Racial_Politics_of_Music_History)

Holy shit apparently it's a theory that's one hundred years old. :lol
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2015, 05:27:40 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154024389367565&id=10018702564

Read the comments.

:goty
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 07:16:51 PM
How black people can emotionally protect themselves in the age of #BlackLivesMatter (http://www.washingtonpost.com/rweb/ideas/how-black-people-can-emotionally-protect-themselves-in-the-age-of-blacklivesmatter/2015/07/24/cca1d0cb7c74d00054ef2e2514889f91_story.html?tid=kindle-app)[WaPo]

"Between the World and Me": Ta-Nehisi Coates Extended Interview on Being Black in America (http://www.democracynow.org/2015/7/22/between_the_world_and_me_ta)[Democracy Now]
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 28, 2015, 02:13:53 PM
Coates on The Daily Show.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/extended-interviews/sx47nw/exclusive-ta-nehisi-coates-extended-interview
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2015, 03:05:36 AM
my recommended videos on youtube are insane due to watching various nonsense. The crown jewel, ladies and gentlemen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBzuX-noi0

 :goty2 :holeup :mindblown :badass :beli :comeon :dead :dead :dead
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2015, 03:07:06 AM
anyone read coates' book yet
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on August 03, 2015, 12:15:59 AM
Apparently this went down at the IHOP by where my girl works?
 :snoop

Russians? Donald Trump? Telling Mexicans to go back to Spain...
Shit has it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUj4MtEGwlk
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 03, 2015, 12:31:42 AM
anyone read coates' book yet
Not yet, it's on my list. Was kinda surprised to hear it's rather short.

My mom didn't like it and said it's too dark and she disliked the way his atheism seemingly pulsated through the book. And a black friend of mine felt that it was hollow due to the attempt to channel Baldwin, from the prose to the "writing a letter to a family member" device. The Baldwin comparisons make me nervous but I look forward to reading it.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 03, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
Apparently this went down at the IHOP by where my girl works?
 :snoop

Russians? Donald Trump? Telling Mexicans to go back to Spain...
Shit has it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUj4MtEGwlk

I'd say there is a good chance that's dementia. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on August 04, 2015, 06:50:41 PM
http://www.newsweek.com/mom-who-kidnapped-daughter-avoid-vaccination-arrested-florida-359556

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According to the Sun Sentinel, Everett kidnapped her daughter to keep her from being vaccinated, attending preschool and learning about black history.

Everett's boyfriend at the time, Carlos Lesters, was reportedly a gun and confederate flag enthusiast. Having weapons around Lilly made Baumann uncomfortable, he said.

Before disappearing, Everett left this letter to Lester: "You are a great dad. If I let them take her and vaccinate her and brainwash her, I wouldn't be doing what's right. I cannot let a judge tell me how my daughter should be raised. We will miss you. But I had to leave."

I want to laugh but honestly I feel bad for that kid.
Doesn't say anything about the actual father, but I hope he's not insane too.
 :larry
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: brawndolicious on August 04, 2015, 09:39:42 PM
They probably have similar ideological beliefs if they're raising a kid together. I always thought that in most cases, racists were raised by parents who were too afraid to be public about it while the children of the hardcore will start to rebel in their teens. So good luck to the little girl in 10 years.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2015, 09:41:42 PM
http://huff.to/1Ule7Ly
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 06:53:14 PM
https://www.vice.com/read/what-black-anime-fans-can-teach-us-about-race-in-america-805?utm_source=homepage
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on August 05, 2015, 06:59:38 PM
black sailor moon cosplayers > *
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Never cosplayed before but I'd like to go as Ami or Rei. Problem is that I haven't been to a con since 2004, for good reason too.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 04:37:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVlvt8OwgB0
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 04:38:07 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/weekends-with-alex-witt/watch/ap-u.s.-history-course-changes-tone-on-race-500804675950?cid=sm_fb_msnbc
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mandark on August 11, 2015, 06:00:30 PM
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/562/the-problem-we-all-live-with

Summary: poor black St. Louis area school district fails so hard it loses accreditation, allowing a thousand of its students to bus to a middle class, white district and creating an unintended experiment in integration.  The audio of some of the white parents at the public meeting is... something.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 06:04:29 PM
http://mashable.com/2015/08/08/black-men-dressing-up-police/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: VomKriege on August 11, 2015, 11:48:18 PM
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/562/the-problem-we-all-live-with

Summary: poor black St. Louis area school district fails so hard it loses accreditation, allowing a thousand of its students to bus to a middle class, white district and creating an unintended experiment in integration.  The audio of some of the white parents at the public meeting is... something.

I read quickly through the transcripts and yeah... wow. I'm sure a lot of those parents have no conscient ill toughts and speaks out of worries for security and education but the comments about health records, installing metal detectors, voting down the public transport because they down't want "different" areas to come there and how the school impromptu integration is killing the housing market... also the whole thing apparently ends on a downer.

Will try to listen to it, sounds very interesting.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mandark on August 12, 2015, 12:10:43 AM
It's worth listening to that part.  The strident tone of the white parents and the frequent applause breaks that follow their comments make it that much worse.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2015, 08:42:21 AM
For those who don't read the hip hop thread.

http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2015/08/dear-ice-cube-your-misogyny-is-showing/

:hitler

"I have no problem with regular women, just bitches and hoes. It was a different time period!" sounds a lot like "I have no problem with black people, just nigggers. It was a different time!"
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 17, 2015, 10:01:13 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/books/review/ta-nehisi-coates-between-the-world-and-me.html?smid=tw-share
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: chronovore on August 31, 2015, 02:30:52 AM
http://www.upworthy.com/neil-degrasse-tyson-reveals-that-hes-been-black-his-whole-life-hilarity-and-wisdom-follow
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on September 02, 2015, 04:12:00 PM
https://vine.co/v/enPtFzYHLgF
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 15, 2015, 10:18:28 PM
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

that last sentence :fbm
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 15, 2015, 10:46:48 PM
What the fuck?  People that dumb and malicious really need to fired, if not scalloped and set on fire as well.  Its a shame that 1) they can basically make up charges by calling it a hoax 2) no one fucking stepped in to call these fuckers on this shit. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 16, 2015, 02:34:03 PM
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656

(http://i.imgur.com/d6u7qds.gif)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 16, 2015, 02:44:21 PM
So, if they really thought this was a bomb, why didn't they immediately bring in the bomb squad and evacuate the school? :itisamystery
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 16, 2015, 03:04:12 PM
http://time.com/4036240/ahmed-mohamed-bomb-clock-principal-letter/

police said it wasn't race related though


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/16/us-usa-police-seattle-idUSKCN0RG0DH20150916
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on September 19, 2015, 11:15:54 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Ta-Nehisi Coates looks like a thin Killer Mike?

(http://i.imgur.com/KK16jkw.jpg)


I'll admit those aren't the best comparison pics.  The following one from Wikipedia is where I first noticed the resemblance.

(http://i.imgur.com/JjSHcHD.jpg)

Pledge allegiance to the journalistic grind.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 19, 2015, 12:07:43 PM
http://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/562/the-problem-we-all-live-with
http://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/563/the-problem-we-all-live-with-part-two
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on September 19, 2015, 09:26:16 PM
Speaking of Coates,  his article in the October issue of Atlantic seems like a good one (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/the-black-family-in-the-age-of-mass-incarceration/403246/).  I'm not sure when I'll have a chance to read the whole thing.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on September 20, 2015, 02:41:27 AM
http://time.com/4036240/ahmed-mohamed-bomb-clock-principal-letter/

police said it wasn't race related though


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/16/us-usa-police-seattle-idUSKCN0RG0DH20150916

drunk thought i had, does this shit not sound incredibly fake to anyone else? I mean the kid is 14 right, of course he had to know he'd get in trouble for bringing a bomb-looking thing to school. double points that he's brown.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on September 20, 2015, 06:10:34 AM
Fake in what way? Children are naive as fuck, even teenagers. And if he hadn't internalized his 'special' place in society until now, he sure as shit has now.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2015, 10:37:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bab3nZro4qE
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 07, 2015, 03:08:24 PM
http://adequateman.deadspin.com/the-caucasians-guide-to-black-churches-1733893737

Is this accurate?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 23, 2015, 11:35:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U61AbEL6oQ

putting this here cause i cant find the doc thread.  20min in and its pretty great
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on October 28, 2015, 06:40:02 PM
https://thsppl.com/why-i-m-absolutely-an-angry-black-woman-2cf74c95828#.fic8olvlt

this is pretty excellent all around.

Why I’m Absolutely an Angry Black Woman

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Photo by Femi Matti

Because when I was five, my kindergarten classmate told me I couldn’t be the princess in the game we were playing because black girls couldn’t be princesses. Because I was in third grade the first time a teacher seemed shocked at how “well-spoken” I was. Because in fourth grade I was told my crush didn’t like black girls. Because in sixth grade a different crush told me I was pretty — for a black girl. Because in 7th grade my predominantly black suburban neighborhood was nicknamed “Spring Ghettos” instead of calling it its name (Spring Meadows). Because I was in 8th grade the first time I was called an Oreo and told that I “wasn’t really black” like it was a compliment.

Because in 9th grade when I switched schools a boy told me he knew I had to be mixed with something to be so pretty. Because in 10th grade my group of friends and I were called into an office and asked if we were a gang, or if we had father figures. Because in 11th grade my AP English teacher told me that I didn’t write like a college-bound student (though I later scored perfectly on the exam). Because when I volunteered in Costa Rica that summer, I was whistled at and called Negrita. Because when I asked my host father if that was like being called distinguished black fellow, he said, no, it was a compliment because black women are perceived to be very good in bed. Because I was a kid. Because I watched from the bleachers while the school resource officer didn’t let my brother into a football game after mistaking him for another black boy who was banned. Because the school resource officer maced him for insisting he was wrong. Because I was suspended for telling the school resource officer he didn’t deserve respect. Because my senior year boyfriend said distinguished black fellow.

Because I was one of two black girls in the freshman class at my college. Because at meetings to talk about how to attract more black students, someone suggested that the school attracted a certain demographic (sustainable living, farming, general hippiness) and that maybe black people “just weren’t interested in things like that.” Because my college boyfriend called me a “fiery negress” as a joke when he ordered for me at a restaurant. Because the boyfriend after that cut me off for saying he was privileged. Because I can’t return to my hometown without getting pulled over.

Because when I got married people assumed I was pregnant. Because people who know I’m married call my husband my “baby daddy.” Because my pregnancy with my son was plagued with videos of black lives being taken in cold blood. Because their murderers still walk the streets. Because the nation sent me a message that my son’s life didn’t matter. Because when Tamir Rice was murdered I curled up on the bed and sobbed, cupping my belly. Because my son heard me sobbing from the inside. Because they don’t care about us. Because when I was 7 months pregnant my neighbor asked me to help him move a dresser up a flight of stairs. Because I am not seen as a woman. Because I am not allowed to be fragile. Because the nurse that checked me in at the hospital to deliver wouldn’t look my husband in the eye. Because the vast majority of people won’t look my husband in the eye. Because when the doctors put my son in my arms and I saw that he was as dark as his father, I knew life would be even harder for him. Because he will be regarded the same way I was. Because he will be forced to grow up before he is grown. Because strangers at the store think it’s okay to reach into my son’s stroller and touch him without a word to me. Because we aren’t entitled to boundaries. Because they think we are here for their enjoyment. Because people don’t think we are people.

Because my nephew told me he couldn’t be Spider Man like he wants to because Spider Man is white. Because when he was four he said that he wants to be white so that he can go on a boat like the people on TV. Because I couldn’t save him from that. Because I can’t protect my son. Because I can’t protect myself. Because my stomach sinks whenever I see a police car. Because when my husband leaves the house at night I am afraid he’ll be killed for looking like somebody. Because I worry that if I went missing like the 64,000 other black women in this nation, the authorities wouldn’t try hard to find me. Because I am disposable. Because I am hated. Because we keep dying. Because they justify our deaths. Because no one is held accountable. Because I am gas lighted. Because I have been told that by speaking about being oppressed I am victimizing myself. Because our murders are filmed and still pardoned. Because I don’t know what it means to let loose. Because doing the things that my white peers do with ease could cost me my life — trespassing in abandoned buildings, smoking joints, wearing a hoodie, looking an officer in the eye, playing music loudly, existing. Because I am afraid to relax. Because I am traumatized.

Because there isn’t a place in the world White Supremacy hasn’t touched. Because I am trapped here. Because the playing field isn’t leveled. Because I love my skin. Because I love being a woman. Because not hating myself is considered radical. Because I’ve been called racist for defending myself. Because all the major protests are for cis black men. Because I’ve been told that talking about the women who’ve died is taking away from the real issue. Because I get no break from fighting. Because everything is a struggle. Because my anger isn’t validated. Because they don’t care about my pain. Because they don’t believe in my pain. Because they forgive themselves without atoning. Because I’m not free. Because the awareness of it permeates everything. Because it’s not ending. Because they teach the children that it’s already ended. Because someone will assert their supremacy over me today. Because they’ll do it tomorrow. Because I want more. Because I deserve better.


And it also fits a very apt James Baldwin quote:

(http://i.imgur.com/lgsOvbb.jpg)

A year ago I wrote this:

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I'm angry all the time over the past few weeks watching the trajectory of the United States. As a black American it scares me how little this nation cares for us. The amount of police brutality booming makes me fear my family's future. I cannot get over the anger that tells me that black lives don't matter. I'm working on a two way street. On one hand, my compassion pains me because it's treating an entire group - one I'm a part of - as less than human. On the other, this compassion is driving me to suffering.

It's getting a point where I'm taking my anger out on people I like and I'm losing compassion for everything. It's turning me into a fairly miserable person. But I can't let it go and it won't go away. I'm usually highly empathetic. Meditation and buddhism have helped me to become a better person, and while I realize that's not the inherent point, it was a nice bonus feature. But here I am incapable of applying everything I learned and it's hurting me and people I love. It honestly scares me. I know it won't be this way forever but I'm losing patience. I tried to talk to my abbot at my zen center this past week and they're having a(nother) sesshin. I swear they have a sesshin every month, good lord. I feel like I have no one to run to for advice. Not even meditation is helping.

I now no longer reject the anger. I'm angry every day. I now no longer associate with any white people that aren't related to my job unless online. The only white person I actively talk to and involve in my life is Mupepe. I'm fucking pissed and I love it. Embrace the anger.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 28, 2015, 06:45:40 PM
 :goty2
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 28, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
Sounds like you went to the dark side, Himu.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on October 28, 2015, 06:47:10 PM
Thank goodness.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 28, 2015, 06:48:40 PM
Still not sure whether Mods Help is still some troll from neofeg or maybe someone entirely new.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on October 28, 2015, 06:52:17 PM
Still not sure whether Mods Help is still some troll from neofeg or maybe someone entirely new.

You sure are a special kind of stupid.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 28, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Wasn't your bitch ass using trans slurs just a few weeks ago?  :doge
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on October 28, 2015, 07:26:18 PM
 :marimo
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on October 28, 2015, 10:15:22 PM
Gotta learn to play the game PD
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Dennis on October 28, 2015, 10:54:00 PM
So this is the Bore BCT?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on October 29, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
No. its for people of color. And we actually talk about being being of color here and not Popeyes.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 27, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
A Caricature of Black Reality (http://prospect.org/article/ta-nehisi-coatess-caricature-black-reality)

Interesting critique of Coates and his recent novel. Really taps into a multitude of things I've talked about with friends and in this thread. I like the book overall yet I also find the suffocating negativity to be more literary than realistic in some areas, which results in some excesses/exaggerations that many people simply overlook.

So much of these discussions seem to completely dismiss or outright deny the existence of a black middle class, or any hope of achievement. To hear some folks talk, you'd think we're all helpless victims at the whip of an oppressive regime. I would not deny institutional racism or deny that many black people are trapped in designed projects/poverty. Yet nearly every city in the country has multiple black neighborhoods where black people are not stuck in poverty and depression. And while I'm not saying those neighborhoods don't have race problems or police problems, the different is noticeable. I've grown up in Detroit and I've grown up in Ann Arbor.

I realize that much of my experiences as a kid or teen are different from many black people. I grew up around doctors and lawyers and pilots. I attended some of the types of dinner parties Coates attends. At the end of the day I was taught to have a goal and strive for it. If Coates rejects the "be twice as good" narrative fine, I don't particularly care much for it either. Still the amount of educated black people I know are doing a lot better than the non-educated ones. And I can apply that to my white friends as well. I agree there is no promised land, but I don't think we're all trapped in a nightmare either.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on November 27, 2015, 09:59:11 PM
Except your experience is anecdotal and studies have shown that even among college educated black families education doesn't protect wealth.

I think you place too much value and trust in the system. Coates' "negativity" is mere pragmatism. You'll always be a niggger to them. When Coates was hired by Marvel for Black Panther, people paraded around the fact that Marvel was hiring black writers, not the striking fact that they hired one of the greatest American intellectual minds of today. Which is pretty huge, black or not.

I think you place a lot of emphasis on the fact that middle and upper middle class black people exist, ignoring that has existed far before we were even born. I grew up surrounded by bougie blacks. It doesn't mean a thing, and while we aren't all "trapped in a nightmare", the harsh reality is that it could easily become a nightmare pretty quickly. Especially the aforementioned fact that wealth decreases in black households regardless of education. So it's not necessarily a nightmare, as much as it's a limbo: always stuck, always reminded, even when you think you've escaped.

You think you've escaped and that your family/future kids have escaped because your dad became a successful dentist and you got to move from Detroit to Ann Arbor? You're Black. You've never escaped. Call it "negativity", but it's real, and it's here. Reminds me of that episode of Fresh Prince where Will and Carlton are arrested and Carlton thinks his dad's money will save him.

Read PD's post and then watch this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bluQNcAjOA
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on November 27, 2015, 10:07:38 PM
Forgot to source but, wake up call:

https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/in-the-balance/issue12-2015/why-didnt-higher-education-protect-hispanic-and-black-wealth
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 28, 2015, 08:58:25 AM
I didn't say middle income black people have escaped racism. And while I used an anecdote I was largely speaking on the existence of a middle class, which isn't simply an oddity - it exists in every state. Do more successful black people struggle with race? Of course. But we can't deny the situation is worse for lower income blacks than it is for those who escape projects or poverty or redlined neighborhoods.

I like Coates overall. I'm just saying that in order to make his point he largely has to ignore the progress that has been made. As I said there doesn't have to be a promised land, but there is opportunity for many and education and resources  play a large role in that.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on December 04, 2015, 03:25:19 PM
http://theculture.forharriet.com/2015/12/ridiculous-tweets-about-wiz-show-how.html#axzz3tJwNyK3l

Oblivious.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2015, 03:46:22 PM
Didn't black people appropriate the wizard of oz from whitey first?  :smug  I mean the only person of colour in the original is the tin coloured dude. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2015, 03:53:19 PM
Honestly cultural appropriation is one of the stupidest concepts that I probably don't actually understand. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on December 04, 2015, 03:59:48 PM
What do you not understand about it? It's not a stupid concept.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
Does anyone think a bunch of black kids today know anything about The Wiz?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on December 04, 2015, 04:48:27 PM
They probably did after watching it last night.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2015, 04:58:35 PM
What do you not understand about it? It's not a stupid concept.

How is it even relevant to that article?

The only way I can think of is that a bunch of white people are expressing (dumb) opinions about the wiz without putting it in its historic/social context, and that is them taking something that should belong to black people and trying to use it for their own benefit.  And that's super silly because you know have a way of basically voiding any opinion you don't like and this is how I feel like I've seen the term used on the internet. 

I'm not saying it is always a stupid concept just that it is being overused to the point of being silly. 

I also tend to think any kind of cultural protectionism is silly though, especially when it comes to language.  Its also way to prescriptionist for my tastes. 

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2015, 05:14:50 PM
You aren't wrong entirely. The article in of itself is ridiculous in the sense that it's another case of Twitter comments being used to make some grand social point. The reality is that most people don't know much about The Wiz, including black people. I'm going to bet it wouldn't be hard to search black twitter and find all types of similar posts from confused black kids.

In terms of cultural appropriation...I wish people would stop misusing the term. A white person playing rock music or rapping is not cultural appropriation. A white person whitewashing the history of jazz and claiming white people created it is cultural appropriation.

The lack of basic logic among online justice types is pretty interesting. Not stunning since a lot of college kids are stupid and grow out of it, but perhaps the onslaught of it online inflates the issue.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2015, 05:32:45 PM
Ya that makes sense.  I guess its just that I only recently became aware of the term and most of my experiences with seeing the term are in missused cases. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on January 06, 2016, 08:40:18 PM
Recent addition to team new black? (https://twitter.com/deray/status/684905056756469761)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 06, 2016, 09:01:21 PM
tbh RZA always struck me as the type of hood dude who makes it out, burns the ladder, and then calls everyone else lazy.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 11, 2016, 11:49:43 AM
What do you not understand about it? It's not a stupid concept.

How is it even relevant to that article?

The only way I can think of is that a bunch of white people are expressing (dumb) opinions about the wiz without putting it in its historic/social context, and that is them taking something that should belong to black people and trying to use it for their own benefit.  And that's super silly because you know have a way of basically voiding any opinion you don't like and this is how I feel like I've seen the term used on the internet. 

I'm not saying it is always a stupid concept just that it is being overused to the point of being silly. 

I also tend to think any kind of cultural protectionism is silly though, especially when it comes to language.  Its also way to prescriptionist for my tastes.

Late.

But my question was in regards to your statement in general. How is the concept of culture appropriation stupid in general? That's what you said. I didn't ask what you didn't understand about the relevance to the Wiz article. I asked about what you don't understand about culture appropriation at large, and you didn't answer the question.

In the context of The Wiz article, the article wasn't about culture appropriation. I'm not sure how you thought it was. The culture appropriation remark was just a side remark saying that white people know so little about our culture that even things as iconic as The Wiz are completely foreign to them. Which is exactly why fighting some people that appropriate is a worthwhile cause, because they have such little historical knowledge of basic Black American culture, yet are more than willing to take.

I think you missed the overall point of the article. The culture appropriation remark was one line and not the basis of the article.

What about culture appropriation do you not understand? I agree that some people are completely misusing it. That doesn't make it stupid concept or that it's not  a problem, though.

I am quoting your original post:

Honestly cultural appropriation is one of the stupidest concepts that I probably don't actually understand. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: mormapope on January 11, 2016, 12:18:26 PM
My chorus class in middle school was predominantly black, hell, the entire grade I was in was 60/40 white kids compared to black kids (looked at the records to confirm a while ago).

My teacher showed The Wiz instead of Wizard of Oz, I'm pretty sure I heard he showed the latter to other, more white classes
 :sabu

The Wiz is better.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 11, 2016, 12:19:42 PM
The Wiz *is* better.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 11, 2016, 02:57:22 PM
The Wiz is not a good movie.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: mormapope on January 11, 2016, 03:16:36 PM
The Wizard of Oz isn't either. It was definitely dope when it was released I'm sure, but I'm not the type of person to suck off old shit just for being old and popular.

 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: studyguy on January 11, 2016, 04:11:07 PM
It's like my girl is really into Grease.
I can't really get into it. I find it incredibly dull and unrelatable.
Some stuff is catchy sure, but it does nothing for me generally. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 11, 2016, 04:30:25 PM
The Wiz is not a good movie.

Doesn't mean it's not better. :lol
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 11, 2016, 04:55:47 PM
Wizard Of Oz is a classic, haters
 :ufup
spoiler (click to show/hide)

actually it's not that interesting as an adult :larry
[close]
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on January 11, 2016, 05:26:40 PM
Came in here to read talking points.

Found discussion on Fred savage vehicles instead.

:doge
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 13, 2016, 03:45:16 PM
This year I'm going to learn more of my history. I have ordered Africana, and can't wait.

Other books I'm going to be reading:

A Taste of Power: A Black Woman's Story
The Ways of White Folks: Stories
James Baldwin : Collected Essays
Angela Davis: An Autobiography
Assata: An Autobiography
Black Boy
From Slavery To Freedom: A History of African-Americ​ans
The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism
Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II
The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness
The Encyclopedia of African-Americ​an Heritage
The Collected Poems of Langston Hughes (Vintage Classics)
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings
Up from Slavery
Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass
The Souls of Black Folk (Dover Thrift Editions)
Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl
The Mis-Education of the Negro

My interests right now mostly lie in history, sociology and non-fiction so I can learn my history.  And I hate not knowing my history. I'd love to expand after this and read books dedicated to west African culture history, but don't know where to start.

I didn't have an Black American Studies class when I went to college and I feel like I missed out on that. So I need to make up for time lost and give myself my own education. Some of these books I've read. Most I haven't.

Also what are the best books on the slave trade - not just North America  but the entire thing?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 13, 2016, 04:25:28 PM
I prefer The Wiz. Not the movie, but the play in general. Fuck that Herbie Hancock song in the movie. The first movie wasn't that good. It also has that Herbie Hancock song!
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2016, 06:27:51 PM
Black Boy is my favorite novel. Will come up with some other recommendations when I get home.

I'd hope that more young black people are introduced to black literature given what's happening in the country today. When I read Black Boy the first time I was a little kid nosing through my big cousin's university homework because she told me I was too young to understand it. I read the book and didn't "get" it, needless to say. But I read it multiple times thereafter, as a teen and then as an adult, and each time found it enlightening.

I think it was Coates who said that reading about black history prevented him from continuing down a rather ugly intellectual path. He didn't use the phrase but it was clear he was referring to the Hotep mindset. He argued that learning about blacks who sold blacks into slavery and all the complexities of the issues helped him avoid the mythological view that certain blacks have about things. IE that we were once great, powerful, peaceful kings until the white man ruined it all. In reality we were humans, and guilty of all the vices and fallings of other humans.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 13, 2016, 06:38:39 PM
Black Boy is my favorite novel. Will come up with some other recommendations when I get home.

I'd hope that more young black people are introduced to black literature given what's happening in the country today. When I read Black Boy the first time I was a little kid nosing through my big cousin's university homework because she told me I was too young to understand it. I read the book and didn't "get" it, needless to say. But I read it multiple times thereafter, as a teen and then as an adult, and each time found it enlightening.

I think it was Coates who said that reading about black history prevented him from continuing down a rather ugly intellectual path. He didn't use the phrase but it was clear he was referring to the Hotep mindset. He argued that learning about blacks who sold blacks into slavery and all the complexities of the issues helped him avoid the mythological view that certain blacks have about things. IE that we were once great, powerful, peaceful kings until the white man ruined it all. In reality we were humans, and guilty of all the vices and fallings of other humans.

But wasn't their definition of slavery much different than the chattel slavery they were sold into? Chattel slavery is uniquely trans atlantic. When they thought of slaves was it really the same type of slaves we think of? I think that when arguing that you have to have a bit of context through into it. Of course, I could be entirely wrong. It honestly sounds similar to the Natives "selling" their land and not understanding the repercussions.

I'm looking forward to Black Boy the most after The Ways of White Folks and The Mis-Education. A fellow Black atheist and communist? :noah I hope I'm going eat well.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2016, 06:42:43 PM
Black Boy is my favorite novel. Will come up with some other recommendations when I get home.

I'd hope that more young black people are introduced to black literature given what's happening in the country today. When I read Black Boy the first time I was a little kid nosing through my big cousin's university homework because she told me I was too young to understand it. I read the book and didn't "get" it, needless to say. But I read it multiple times thereafter, as a teen and then as an adult, and each time found it enlightening.

I think it was Coates who said that reading about black history prevented him from continuing down a rather ugly intellectual path. He didn't use the phrase but it was clear he was referring to the Hotep mindset. He argued that learning about blacks who sold blacks into slavery and all the complexities of the issues helped him avoid the mythological view that certain blacks have about things. IE that we were once great, powerful, peaceful kings until the white man ruined it all. In reality we were humans, and guilty of all the vices and fallings of other humans.

But wasn't their definition of slavery much different than the chattel slavery they were sold into? Chattel slavery is uniquely trans atlantic. When they thought of slaves was it really the same type of slaves we think of? I think that when arguing that you have to have a bit of context through into it. Of course, I could be entirely wrong. It honestly sounds similar to the Natives "selling" their land and not understand the repercussions.

You're right that chattel slavery was a unique European and Arab practice, but some African tribes were pretty fucking brutal when it came to slavery and tribal warfare. Slavery as indentured servitude was not practiced across Africa, it existed in various tribes but wasn't the norm. And there were tribes that later learned how brutal European slavery was yet continued to sell their slaves.

The general point was not that "both sides do it" or whatever, but that the issue is more complex than some would like us to believe.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 13, 2016, 06:44:15 PM
Black Boy is my favorite novel. Will come up with some other recommendations when I get home.

I'd hope that more young black people are introduced to black literature given what's happening in the country today. When I read Black Boy the first time I was a little kid nosing through my big cousin's university homework because she told me I was too young to understand it. I read the book and didn't "get" it, needless to say. But I read it multiple times thereafter, as a teen and then as an adult, and each time found it enlightening.

I think it was Coates who said that reading about black history prevented him from continuing down a rather ugly intellectual path. He didn't use the phrase but it was clear he was referring to the Hotep mindset. He argued that learning about blacks who sold blacks into slavery and all the complexities of the issues helped him avoid the mythological view that certain blacks have about things. IE that we were once great, powerful, peaceful kings until the white man ruined it all. In reality we were humans, and guilty of all the vices and fallings of other humans.

But wasn't their definition of slavery much different than the chattel slavery they were sold into? Chattel slavery is uniquely trans atlantic. When they thought of slaves was it really the same type of slaves we think of? I think that when arguing that you have to have a bit of context through into it. Of course, I could be entirely wrong. It honestly sounds similar to the Natives "selling" their land and not understand the repercussions.

You're right that chattel slavery was a unique European and Arab practice, but some African tribes were pretty fucking brutal when it came to slavery and tribal warfare. Slavery as indentured servitude was not practiced across Africa, it existed in various tribes but wasn't the norm. And there were tribes that later learned how brutal European slavery was yet continued to sell their slaves.

The general point was not that "both sides do it" or whatever, but that the issue is more complex than some would like us to believe.

Oh, I definitely agree it's complex. It's also why one of many reasons I do not claim Africa.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 13, 2016, 07:12:24 PM
Oh!

Forgot another one.

(http://i.imgur.com/WUOehmL.jpg)

And this one too.

(http://i.imgur.com/fLe3SXo.jpg)

 :doge

Time to bump Public Enemy, Queen Latifah,  and KRS.

https://youtu.be/f8cHxydDb7o

:noah
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 13, 2016, 08:12:42 PM
watch this.

https://youtu.be/PMVRyD4UlHk
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2016, 08:22:24 PM
Soul On Ice
The Outsider (by Richard Wright)
The Fire Next Time
Uncle Tom's Children
When Affirmative Action Was White: An Untold History of Racial Inequality in Twentieth-Century America
This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible
We Will Shoot Back: Armed Resistance in the Mississippi Freedom Movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zQ-bc-iRo
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 13, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
Here's a (probably) better video on PTSS.

Let's all heal, gang. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRQ-Ci6LwVw
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Beezy on January 13, 2016, 11:02:10 PM
Good list MH. There's some books on there that I've been meaning to get. Started The New Jim Crow last month, but haven't read much because I also started a new job that's been taking up a lot of my time. I'll try to start reading on my commutes again instead of sleeping.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 13, 2016, 11:36:05 PM
Any books you reading bout the Carribean trade and history? Shit was bloody. I'd like to read tho I'm not from Jamaica. The way I see it, ours is a shared history. I'd love to read more scholarly attempts at distilling the trade in Latin America beyond Black in Latin America as well.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Beezy on January 14, 2016, 01:16:28 AM
No, I'll ask my bookworm friends and cousins if they can recommend any.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Beezy on January 14, 2016, 08:16:20 PM
So far "Sugar in the Blood: A Family's Story of Slavery and Empire" is the only response I've gotten.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 16, 2016, 03:35:17 PM
good rec tho
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2016, 04:05:39 PM
So far "Sugar in the Blood: A Family's Story of Slavery and Empire" is the only response I've gotten.
(http://i.imgur.com/zPhjuiD.png)
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on January 18, 2016, 10:45:18 PM
http://townhall.com/columnists/crystalwright/2016/01/18/draft-n2105218/page/full
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Martin Luther King, Jr: In A Class of His Own

Editor's note: This column is an excerpt from Crystal Wright's new book, "Con Job: How Democrats Gave Us Crime, Sanctuary Cities, Abortion Profiteering, and Racial Division."

When was the last time anyone heard the “Reverend” Al Sharpton give a sermon? I mean a real one, not a rant that incites racial unrest. Ever since Sharpton came to the defense of Tawana Brawley in 1987, knowing she HAD lied in accusing white men of raping her, he’s been a professional race profiteer. Not only did Tawana lie, she lied big time: spreading dog feces on herself then hiding in a trash can to stage her rape. After Al “marched” in defense of Brawley, a grand jury concluded Brawley had concocted a “hoax” and the lawyers who represented her were disbarred. Steven Pagones, a Dutchess County assistant district attorney, was one of the men Brawley, Sharpton, and her advisors Alton H. Maddox Jr. and C. Vernon Mason accused of raping her. In 1998 Pagones won a defamation lawsuit against the three race-baiting stooges, who were ordered to pay Pagones $345,000 in damages. Brawley was also sued by Pagones and ordered to pay over $400,000 in damages, which she only began paying in 2013.27 In 1988 People magazine referred to Sharpton, pictured with Brawley on the cover its magazine, as “a belligerent black activist” whose actions were a “disgrace.” Today, a thinner, tailored-suit-wearing Sharpton works as a well-paid TV host of MSNBC’s PoliticsNation.

The “Reverend” Al has also been quite successful in not paying over $4 million owed in federal and New York state taxes. Obama’s IRS was masterful at targeting conservative groups from 2010 through 2012 to silence their influence in elections by delaying or not approving their applications for tax-exempt nonprofit status. But you mean to tell me the IRS can’t make Al Sharpton pay the $3 million in back taxes he owes the federal government? In spite of his lawlessness, Sharpton has visited the Obama White House about eighty times. Apparently our Democrat president buys into Al’s hustle. Or, like the Democrat Party in general, he finds it useful for winning elections. The first black president’s embrace of Sharpton—enabling him to pose as a spokesman for us all—should show black Democrats how little Obama thinks of black people. Sharpton calls the president, governors, and congressmen his friends, just like Jesse Jackson, who pops up like a jack-in-the-box at every racial riot or protest alongside him.

But Al and Jesse aren’t alone in belonging to the “black spokesperson” club. When “an unarmed black teen” is killed under America’s first black president, the media also call upon Michael Eric Dyson and Cornel West to be the mouthpieces for black America.

As the Class of 1943 University Professor at Princeton University, West is best known for his book Race Matters. If he were intellectually honest, West would say race matters for keeping him employed, just like so many other black professors working in “Black Studies Departments” at colleges across the country. Dyson is another black professor, an “ordained Baptist minister” turned spokesperson for the black race. Like West, Dyson’s only qualification for the job of speaking for an entire race seems to be his skin color.

As a professor of theology, English, and African American studies at Georgetown University, in 2011 Dyson taught a three-credit course on the black rap/hip-hop star Jay Z: “Sociology of Hip-Hop: Urban Theodicy of Jay-Z.” “His body of work has proved to be powerful, effective and influential. And it’s time to wrestle with it,” Dyson recalled in an interview, as if he were analyzing the work of a great writer like William Shakespeare or James Baldwin. Hip-hop lyrics, including Jay Z’s, are notorious for glorifying gangsta behavior: crime, killing, and treating women like “bitches and hoes.” Yet Dyson found Jay Z’s song-writing talents were critical to the education of Georgetown students, who paid $40,000 in tuition that year.

These are the credentials—race hustler, black preacher, or black studies professor—that catch the eye of liberal news organizations. Democrat-allied journalists further insult blacks when they class Sharpton in the company of true civil rights activists such as Martin Luther King Jr., Medgar Evers, and Rosa Parks. The news media and Democrat politicians know all too well that Sharpton and the rest of the black leaders are nothing more than liberal con artists. That’s why they promote them, because they know blacks keep following the voice of these black Pied Pipers right to the Democrat ballot box without questioning their motives. The day blacks decide to question why black leaders are getting richer every election cycle while the black race wades deeper into an economic wasteland will be the day blacks own political power. “Still today, the best way to make a black leader mad is to say to him that black Americans are capable of being fully responsible for their own advancement,” wrote Shelby Steele. This is quite a revealing point that black Americans should spend some time thinking about. The livelihood of black leaders like Sharpton and others is based upon the Democrat precept that blacks are irresponsible degenerates, buried under a mountain of ignorance—and forever needing to be rescued by the Democrat Party.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 31, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Yes, yessss!

Quote
If anyone doubts that the mainstream media fails to tell the truth about our political system (and its true winners and losers), the spectacle of large majorities of black folks supporting Hillary Clinton in the primary races ought to be proof enough. I can't believe Hillary would be coasting into the primaries with her current margin of black support if most people knew how much damage the Clintons have done - the millions of families that were destroyed the last time they were in the White House thanks to their boastful embrace of the mass incarceration machine and their total capitulation to the right-wing narrative on race, crime, welfare and taxes. There's so much more to say on this topic and it's a shame that more people aren't saying it. I think it's time we have that conversation.

- Michelle Alexander

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=938033916284566&id=168304409924191&fref=nf&pnref=story
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Mods Help on January 31, 2016, 05:30:58 PM
http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Amazing read.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 03, 2016, 12:22:07 PM
So far "Sugar in the Blood: A Family's Story of Slavery and Empire" is the only response I've gotten.

There is a diabetes joke in there somewhere.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: benjipwns on February 17, 2016, 11:44:53 AM
http://blackpeopleloveus.com/
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2016, 09:29:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=IXZ3yELiKCo
 :doge

Tariq Nasheed, ladies and gentlemen
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 22, 2016, 10:05:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjgaza_qAA

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 26, 2016, 12:20:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YidALyBwat0
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on May 24, 2016, 01:38:55 PM
https://www.propublica.org/article/machine-bias-risk-assessments-in-criminal-sentencing
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“A guy who has molested a small child every day for a year could still come out as a low risk because he probably has a job,” Boessenecker said. “Meanwhile, a drunk guy will look high risk because he’s homeless. These risk factors don’t tell you whether the guy ought to go to prison or not; the risk factors tell you more about what the probation conditions ought to be.”

:whew
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 31, 2016, 12:41:55 AM
Not even a "no Arabs under 30" asterisk? Damn.

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on May 31, 2016, 11:03:32 AM
I feel PD's pain.

Just recently found out from my coworker who spends all his weekends with hookers that most hookers in our area have a strict no arab, only expat policy. A lot of the same Hos are arab.

Am I black yet?

Can you dribble drive and throw down a ferocious windmill while not messing up your Jordan's?

Until you can do this you are not full black.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2016, 11:18:42 AM
I don't understand black innuendo.  Who fucks with shoes on?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on May 31, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
I don't understand black innuendo.  Who fucks with shoes on?

Well your mother, for starter. :hitler
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2016, 11:32:18 AM
I also don't understand black people going for fat white women. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on May 31, 2016, 11:47:00 AM
I also don't understand black people going for fat white women.

Oh we don't just fuck the fat ones breh. They just have less to hide.

The last girl you ogled and bothered probably has had black dick and is in no need of your 5 inches and self defiling personality :mynicca
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2016, 11:50:35 AM
I was saying my mom is fat ...
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on May 31, 2016, 11:53:58 AM
Serious talk for a minute...you CACS sure like to insult your mothers. I don't get it, it's strange.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 31, 2016, 11:57:24 AM
If she didn't want to be insulted she shouldn't have gotten fat  :idont
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: chronovore on June 19, 2016, 07:24:17 PM
 Once again, Father Mike self-immolates his way to victory.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on June 27, 2016, 06:15:33 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/dining/jack-daniels-whiskey-nearis-green-slave.html?ref=dining
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on June 30, 2016, 06:44:33 PM
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121550/cornel-wests-rise-fall-our-most-exciting-black-scholar-ghost

The fuckery already flowing from this article :lawd

Finally read this more than a year later.  Such a delicious slow roasting. :whew
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 02, 2016, 10:46:40 PM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/policing-the-police/

Jesus the cops who think its totally ok to start an encounter off with physical force just to keep their pansy asses safe. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 03, 2016, 11:29:41 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pride-parade-toronto-1.3662823

BLM in Toronto is really scummy. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 04, 2016, 02:21:20 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pride-parade-toronto-1.3662823

BLM in Toronto is really scummy.

Apparently they also set up t-shirt stands that only black people could buy stuff from  :lol

insularity brehs.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Beezy on July 04, 2016, 09:55:50 AM
http://jezebel.com/judge-orders-macys-to-quit-fining-detaining-suspected-1782962867

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A judge has ordered Macy’s to immediately quit detaining and fining people suspected of shoplifting. A class action lawsuit claims that Macy’s detained at least two women suspected of shoplifting in holding cells for hours in the basement of the chain’s flagship in New York. Both women were forced to pay the store while in detention, a practice known as “civil recovery,” then turned over the NYPD and criminally charged.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 04, 2016, 11:15:09 AM
wtf?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 06, 2016, 08:53:37 PM
 :nsfw https://twitter.com/DDotOmen/status/750809140453191680  :nsfw

cowards hiding behind a badge
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 19, 2016, 11:35:08 PM
Today I asked if this dude with a super heavy Indian accent was from Toronto.  You know cause I didn't want to just assume shit.  I'm pretty sure I could hear his eyes roll.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on July 24, 2016, 12:41:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNDS-yvpzY

Interview with former Bundeswehr officer Gaho Burhibwa.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: T234 on July 24, 2016, 04:47:19 PM
I saw two black college-age guys get in a fight because one called the other "ashy" in a serious, not-joking-at-all way. Giant dudes too.

Some observations and a question.

1. GODDAMN, KIDS NOWADAYS ARE MASSIVE. Guy 1 was about 6'6" ~400lb. Guy 2 was about 6'9" ~350lbs. Neither man was very quick or agile, otherwise they were fucking gonna be on D1 scholarship somewhere headed for the League.


2. Phone cameras, phone cameras everywhere.


3. What does the term "ashy" even mean, and why would two non-drunk guys fight over it the way they did?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on July 24, 2016, 06:57:48 PM
The Bore taught me that some black folk absolutely have to use lotion to not look ashy due to dry skin. Coconut lotion specifically, though I don't know why.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 24, 2016, 09:21:12 PM
PD taught me what it means to be ashy too. :interracial
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on July 25, 2016, 12:47:26 AM
Being "ashy" just means you have visibly dry skin.  It sort of looks like there's ash on you.

(http://cos.h-cdn.co/assets/16/08/980x490/landscape-1456257208-ashy-elbows.jpg)
From a Cosmo article on how to avoid ashy skin (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/beauty/how-to/a54139/6-ways-to-avoid-ashy-skin/)

For the past few months I've been carrying a full sized bottle of lotion in my bag whenever I go out in public.  I wash/sanitize my hands a lot so the backs of my hands and my fingers get easily cracked.  At its worst it can cause pain.  Dry skin is just a lot more noticeable when you're black.  Most people don't carry lotion on them like that though.  That's me taking extra precautions.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Beezy on July 25, 2016, 09:53:11 AM
That's not the only way ashy is used nowadays. It's an insult that could mean broke, dirty, lazy, ignorant, etc. Just typed it into twitter's search bar and saw someone call Umar Johnson "king of the ashy homophobic hoteps".
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Rufus on July 25, 2016, 09:59:39 AM
Semantic drift in action, neat. Would explain the altercation T234 described.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 25, 2016, 10:00:12 PM
Today I was TAing the kids with last names T to Z.  So 90% of their last names in the class are either wang, wu or zhao and I did something racist.  I couldn't figure out how to pronounce a Chinese name so I asked the closest person to me, who was also Chinese.  He didn't know. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 04, 2016, 09:06:18 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/officials-george-zimmerman-punched-in-face-for-allegedly-bragging-about-killing-trayvon-martin/417278308

really hope the next time is worse for him.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on September 22, 2016, 01:22:56 AM
https://twitter.com/naaaynizzle/status/778784356693180416
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 11, 2016, 08:15:09 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/12/11/a-black-woman-was-accused-of-stealing-so-this-victorias-secret-kicked-out-all-black-customers/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_pn-victoriassecret-935am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

SMH at least she got fired. 
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 11, 2016, 08:18:47 PM
Buying shit at Victoria Secret in person instead of online :holeup

Go online, they always have deals. 5 PINK brand panties for $27.50. Sometimes it's 7 for $27.50.
:lawd

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 11, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Did you at least go into the store to get sized first PD?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on December 24, 2016, 02:22:50 PM
Over the past few years there’s been a noticeable Caribbean (mainly reggae and dancehall) influence in pop.  It’s in some of my favorite songs over the past few years (The Blacker the Berry and I’m In It, both of which feature Assassin).  Busta Rhymes uses Patois throughout We Got It From Here.  He and Phife have been using it to spice up their verses for decades, but I was surprised at how heavily I fucked with it on the last Tribe album.

A few nights ago, I looked up the samples on Famous from TLOP.  I recognized the Patois the first time I heard Kanye’s song, but it was with a different voice.  My grandmother played the original Bam Bam by Toots & The Maytals (theirs was reworked by Sister Nancy who was sampled in Famous) a lot when I was growing up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZJAfazZhY4

I’ve been feeling guilty for liking these American renditions since I used to distance myself from Caribbean, specifically Jamaican culture as much as possible.  My mother used to fly me back to Jamaica every summer and I always hated it.  As time went on, we couldn’t afford to go as often and eventually she stopped taking me with her because I kept complaining.  Now, I’ve got family out there I haven’t seen in years.

I’m still in the process of unlearning the internalized cism I started picking up as a toddler.  At this point I don’t even know where I would go to find good reggae or dancehall music.  The caucasity in most of the places I discover new music online is overly prevalent.  With hip-hop this doesn’t really bother me too much since I started listening way before I was reading any “prestigious” music criticism.  I have a wider appreciation for the genre than the stuff that usually gets covered in the press.  I’m worried that if I go looking for Jamaican music without the same grounding that I did for hip-hop, I’ll end up only being exposed to stuff that appeals to white Americans.  I’ll start by asking my grandmother what she grew up listening to.

What Caribbean music do y’all listen to if any? 

Toku’s Jamaican right?  Does any of this sound familiar?

My family also played this one a lot.  Chaka Demus & Pliers - Murder She Wrote.  Turns out that one’s been sampled by a bunch of American artists as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-av7F1JBmj4
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2016, 02:34:45 PM
Toku is Jamaican and so is Beezy.

That Jamaican steez.

I love Caribbean music. I'm not familiar with y'all culture tho.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2016, 03:38:00 PM
Anyways, I got my dad some Documentaries for Christmas. Besides Planet Earth/Life they're all African diaspora based. I got him The African American's: Many Rivers To Cross, Black in Latin America, and Black Panthers. If you can't tell I'm a big proponent of Henry Louis Gates! I wanted to get him Black America Since MLK but it's only available for pre order.
I wanted to get him an African documentary that goes over various cultures and stuff but can't find a good one. There's one on Amazon but it has a mixed reaction.

I got him Black in Latin America because I'm also dating a black latino and he's been interested in black people in Latino countries.

Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 24, 2016, 04:13:11 PM
links?
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2016, 05:05:57 PM
?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004SKIR8K/ref=sxts1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482616919&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N63WR40/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482616948&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pbs+black

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01A1H2DJC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482616948&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pbs+black

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FNPQW2W/ref=sxts1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482617006&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000E6EHNG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482617063&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=pbs+africans+dvd&dpPl=1&dpID=51B3VHGRJ5L&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000DG013/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1482617133&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pbs+africans+dvd&dpPl=1&dpID=51XQPB886KL&ref=plSrch

FYI: pbs is basically America's BBC. Their docs are typically great.'
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 24, 2016, 05:24:05 PM
Ya I watch tons of PBS docs

If you haven't seen Eyes of the Prize you should  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyes_on_the_Prize
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on January 16, 2017, 10:15:43 PM
A couple weeks ago, I spoke to my grandmother about what I talked about in my last post in this thread (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=40764.msg2215173#msg2215173).  She doesn’t really have the same relationship with music that I do, but it was a very interesting conversation anyway.  She listened to Neville Willoughby on the radio as he was a popular DJ when she was growing up.  One of her favorite artists was Jimmy Cliff who I already knew of but never listened to a full project by.  She met a few people who later became pretty influential figures in Jamaican culture and politics.

She lived in Jones Town for a period of her youth.  It’s a part of Kingston adjacent to Trenchtown: The home of a young Bob Marley.  My grandmother knew him and Peter Tosh on a first name basis, but weren’t especially close.  Occasionally, she’d catch them playing drums in their yard.  As their careers started taking off she drifted even further from them.

At one point she worked in the same office with Portia Simpson-Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portia_Simpson-Miller) who served as Prime Minister decades later.  She knew two of the McNeills (a family known to be very active politically).  She was closest with Sylva (who celebrated her hundredth birthday in November) (http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/outlook/20161113/sylvia-marks-100-wonderful-years) and was familiar with Sylvia’s brother and Member of Parliament Kenneth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McNeill).

My grandmother’ll be 75 this year.  I’m sure anyone that age or older has come into contact with people who had a big impact so I don’t want to overstate the significance of having met any of these people.  It might be even more common in a place like Jamaica where the population was less than 2 million when she was a young adult.  It was still cool to find out!
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on January 16, 2017, 10:25:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O28UpN5m-i8
https://youtu.be/eJVfPU87hws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ogX0J-ocQ

Born and raised (until I was 14). Just a couple tracks that were impotant to me growing up. I remember when I first came here, to live (i had visited before) and the culture shock of just...so many white people kinda set me back a bit. Didn't help that I was in a super white area as well. It fucked me up and I'd be lying if I said I was done working through all of that shit.

On the note of who your grandma knew, it's def. a jamaican thing, not to take away from here. It's a small island and if you're even a little bit social you'll always end up at least one or two persons removed from someone kinda big. I used to live in the same little community as sean paul's cousins. I was a big Sean Paul fan even before the Get Busy days, ppl there didn't really rate him until they same him bussing on BET lol. So I got to meet him once. My sister who is older used to go to a lot of sessions was hounded by elephant man at a few and my father is in some old beanie man video from the early 90s.

As a little side note, the riddim Rihanna's work interpolates(?), "Sailaway Riddim" is from like 98 and Sean Paul had a song on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJkle6fG4q0

I remember waiting by the radio to record this kinda shit on cassettes and selling it to my sister's friends haha.

Also one of my few vinyl regrets, when I was living in NC I saw great copy of the "The Harder They Come" soundtrack I meant to pick up but didn't. Still think about it. It's an old 70s Jamaican movie and Jimmy Cliff did the soundtrack iirc:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Harder_They_Come
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on January 16, 2017, 11:12:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lVPugKe.png)
Thanks Toku.  I've got some digging to do.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: toku on January 16, 2017, 11:41:33 PM
Be careful with Sizzla. Something happened around 99 or so and he started making real hardcore dancehall and going hard on the homophobia. So much so iirc he was banned from performing in parts of Europe. I was shook when i first heard all this shit coming from him because this is the kinda stuff I knew him for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xy27Z6bf6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ZI1yWUdNc
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on January 17, 2017, 12:34:34 PM
Be careful with Sizzla. Something happened around 99 or so and he started making real hardcore dancehall and going hard on the homophobia.
This was one of my reasons for avoiding Jamaican music in the past.  Eventually, I realized it wasn't really fair since I'm able to appreciate the entertainment value of other media while remaining opposed to their prejudices.  I was holding reggae and dancehall to a higher standard purely because it was a part of Jamaican culture.  I may never be completely consistent in deciding whether or not to consume art that spreads hate, but I don't want it to limit what I can learn about my background.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 17, 2017, 01:01:55 PM
PlayDat do you eat pussy? Just curious since you're Jamaican.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on January 17, 2017, 07:23:55 PM
 :heh No, never had any kind of sex.  Just minimal dating experience.  I don't have any objection to cunnilingus though.
Title: Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
Post by: PlayDat on April 21, 2017, 07:37:50 PM
You wanna see a dead body? (http://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/04/19/25082450/the-heart-of-whiteness-ijeoma-oluo-interviews-rachel-dolezal-the-white-woman-who-identifies-as-black)

Quote from: Ijeoma Oluo
It's clear I have pushed her to the edge of frenzy, so I decide to discuss something about the book that will not push her over that edge. I talk to her about the foreword by her adopted dad, Albert Wilkerson Jr. It's sympathetic. "You have a community that has stuck by you through this," I say. At that point, she breaks down and starts crying.