THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: MCD on September 09, 2013, 02:05:32 AM
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sceja-press-conference-english
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/09/08/sce-japan-press-conference-2013-livestream/
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2013/09/09/sce-japan-playstation-press-conference-2013-livestream/
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New Vita
colorful shit
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new vita. thinner, lightner, (cheaper).
at least I have a replacement for my broken one
....wait, lcd :-\
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lighter
thinner
japan bullshit
ladies and children color
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1 giga momory built in
gee thx
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19929 jpy
regular usb?
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No HDMI out. :'(
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is there a purple one
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64gig memory confirmed coming in 10/10/2013
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master of the collaboration battle games sizzle trailer games
distantmantra breaker vita
limited edition distantmantra breaker vita edition limited bundle
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LCD screen :snoop :oreilly :ufup :trash
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Can't understand shit.
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god eater 2 vita soon
limited edition vita bundle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TkOdFbj1Eo
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soul sacrifice again
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soul sacrifice delta
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brand new version with brand new elements with new whatever
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even the translator is lost
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shut up infa
SHUT UP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TkOdFbj1Eo
No purple OR red. Fuck EVERYTHING.
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sega turn
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They're still on the monster hunter games kick.
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phantasy star producer. PSO2 apology
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I have no idea what's going on
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phantasy star nova for vita
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same world as 2 but it goes offline
4 player coop mode
huge enemies
sega x triace
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oh shit a proper PS game?
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square sure pissed off triace
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school idol shit
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some hammer guy
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some gay bear animu game
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how to clear out vita stock: more limited edition
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translator gave up translating this cool young dude game and ends with "please buy the vita"
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ff10 limited edition vita bundle
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some gay bear animu game
The Bore GOTY edition confirmed?
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ff10 limited edition vita bundle
coming 2017
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Vita still a pedos first choice for interactive gameplay
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What's with all these pedo games? oh right Japanese games
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playstation plus trojan titles
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please buy vita
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vita rip again
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New:
(http://i2.minus.com/iZMoFdLmgsRbu.jpg)
Old:
(http://i.minus.com/iblsxhJPwuEA0Y.jpg)
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ps3 old and announced games just destroyed everything they showed for the vita
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new vita. thinner, lightner, (cheaper).
at least I have a replacement for my broken one
....wait, lcd :-\
What was the old one?
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gt6
who invited this guy
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new vita. thinner, lightner, (cheaper).
at least I have a replacement for my broken one
....wait, lcd :-\
What was the old one?
oled
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RIP "dat OLED"
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dat oled :dead
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oled pros: fast response and deep colors
cons: expensive and burn in
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Autism: The Game
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wow cars
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ok ps4 time
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ps4 24 feb 2014
tier 2 country
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lol Japan
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Tier 2 confirmed
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this is a strategic launch to get you more games not a delay
please understand
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2014? people will buy the wii u instead
you get knack for free as an apology :dead
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knack bundle
digital code
KNACK
FUCKING KNACK FOR JAPAN
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they are going to talk about knack
jesus Christ they lost it
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8 titles for japan (this includes second son) for japan release
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don't worry guys knack is made by team full of Nippon pride
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starting with cerny who made crash bandicot
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"crash bandicoot-like game"
weren't there guys here who raged at me for posting that?
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knack is for family and couples
virgins not allowed
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why is the translator translating the knack trailer
she's voicing all the characters
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The translation of Knack's trailer is amazing :lol
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why is the translator translating the knack trailer
she's voicing all the characters
she lost it
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PS4 knackered
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that was amazing :lol
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the playroom
it's not Kinect we swear
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tier 2 launch games trailer
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omg The Evil Within is called PSYCHO BREAK in Japan
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yeah trademark problem
it's RE/Biohazard all over again
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watchdogs/psycho break Japanese trailer
watch dogs is hilarious in japanese
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you need a help?
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yakuza character in watch dogs
or maybe not. I don't know yakuza
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They chose the Watch Dog footage showing the only Asian character in the game.
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evil within is sooooooooooooooo gooooooooooooooooooooooood
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how long is this supposed to be if they're announcing games now?
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koei tecmo games:
dynasty warriors 7 with something ps4
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why is koei talking about spec powers
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as you can see...obviously that you can see larger number of enemies
this looks the same you hack
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I take it this is why Gaf is down.
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I won't even recreate this in project spark
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Are monster hunter and musou games really that popular?
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"Much more realistic" :lol
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musou is huge there.
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THE FLAME
OMG :lol
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yakuza ishin
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translator lol
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here is another untranslated game from sega
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I'm confused. Yakuza is for PS3 and PS4? launch game for PS4?
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I have no idea what's going on
this is ps4, ps3 and vita crossplay?
fuck this yakuza shit
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lily bergamo
I'm going to get your life
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new title by grasshopper
suda 51 latest turd
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please detain these two asap jesus
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Man these translators are having a hard time.
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grasshopper is good at women leads
fuck just throw these two at the nearest babydumpster
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we have no idea what game this is
not even a trailer
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kadokawa game studios
srpg
available for vita/ps4/ps3
why should you buy a ps4 again
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that new guilty gear game is also for ps4
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level 5 presents
wonder flick
music by uematsu
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Earth Defense Force PS4!!
Forses!
might only drop to 20fps this time :whew
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that buggy bug game for ps4
edf
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dream club ps4
a poor man's idol master
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Namco Bandai
distantmantra gundam game for ps4 no title so please look forward in 2016
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idolmaster for ps4 when we get to it sometime in 2017
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btw we are just announcing games but releasing is a different thing
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ono with his deep down turd
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This looks terrible.
And it looks like they're sticking with Deep Down.
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level 5 presents
wonder flick
music by uematsu
:obama
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yo, this is so a dark souls knock off. enemy rag dolls are screwed up here too.
randomly generated dungeons is cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZAl95F8yBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaVl1atbUDc
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Capcom copying from from software
how the mighty have fallen
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niconico app for ps4
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PS love indies
not a single Japanese indie game shown
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did she just say assassin's creed black cigarillo?
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ff15 cast talking about music for ps4
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The Sony fanboys on Gaf are really dick riding Deep Down something rotten.
He's comparing the two 3rd party exclusives and he didnt lie.
This looks waay better than DR3
Jesus...
If this is exclusive to the PS4, Microsoft shouldn't even bother.
Wow.
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I want to fuck misaka mikoto I don't care
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deep down looks fantastic.
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welp it's over
see you at tgs
thank you for following your favorite MS shill
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one more piece of news
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PS Vita console lol
this is great. I want this.
PS Vita TV
no wonder the new Vita didn't have TV out
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apple tv by sony
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TV TV TV TV TV
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TV TV TV TV TV
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TV TV TV TV TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suXer2ObCG8
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how can we make use of all the vita motherboards we have laying around?
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Vita TV is half the price of the Vita, but doesn't include controller or memory card.
Works with dual shock 3, plays PS1, PSP, and Vita games. And hooks with PS4 to use Dual shock 4, it seems.
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Vita :dead
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This chick is a terrible actress
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you want vita with hdmi?
fuck you get this vita console because fuck you
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thank you for reading the bore everyone
hope you enjoyed it
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Sorry, Killzone Lan Party? :lol
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11 kills in 30 seconds. :whew
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Vita TV looks kinda cool.
That last vid was a marketers frenzied dream.
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(http://i.minus.com/iTkaTHTNsTH4L.jpg)
theoretically you can hook that up to another TV and stream PS4 games to it (restricted to vita's res, probably). nvm, that's actually a touted feature.
$100 (w/o the controller)
Can't play all Vita games since it doesn't have a touch screen.
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I was wondering why GAF was down then I saw this thread :lol
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I'd rather buy that TV thing than a vita or a ps4. It's actually a really good idea, I'm shocked.
Weren't Microsoft rumoured to be shrinking 360 tech into a micro TV box type thing?
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Vita TV = Sony answer to Ouya
:mindblown
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PS Vita tv thing is kind of neat.
Single player/Co-op Phantasy Star game by Tri Ace? Thats also awesome. Vita's got some stuff.
Actually this conference had a lot of cool things. Not huge great things, but plenty of "hey ok cool" things.
Sony is doing pretty awesome honestly.
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So Deep Down is a randomly generated loot based Dark Souls?
That sounds pretty cool.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol At the Sony fanboys on GAF who think Vita TV is 'huge'. It won't sell a thing. I'd be surprised if it sells over 20K in its first NPD. I mean, we've had both Apple and Google (Ouya too lol) spectacularly fail in this arena and they've both pushed and put a million times more effort into Google and Apple TV than Sony ever have with the Vita, we've even still got the majority of Sony studios unwilling to touch the Vita with a bargepole. This thing has no reason to exist and won't change a single person's mind about the Vita platform who wasn't sold on it already.
Man, I can't wait for the NPD tears when this thing is outsold 50x by the 2DS.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol At the Sony fanboys on GAF who think Vita TV is 'huge'. It won't sell a thing. I'd be surprised if it sells over 20K in its first NPD. I mean, we've had both Apple and Google (Ouya too lol) spectacularly fail in this arena and they've both pushed and put a million times more effort into Google and Apple TV than Sony ever have with the Vita, we've even still got the majority of Sony studios unwilling to touch the Vita with a bargepole. This thing has no reason to exist and won't change a single person's mind about the Vita platform who wasn't sold on it already.
Man, I can't wait for the NPD tears when this thing is outsold 50x by the 2DS.
I think this new push - the new Vita SKU and this - is an attempt to get more development. A $100 media and gaming playstation box is a really good idea, but I agree that anchoring it to the Vita eco-system could make it kind of stillborn...
the size / aesthetic / price is all good though. Almost so good it could detrimentally affect their other products if it caught on. I am much more prepared to part with this kind of money and play the good games I know Vita has, than part with £400-500 this Christmas on a next-gen machine. Hopefully its not too hard to convert games / rip out all the touch/back screen stuff and most of the best games are available immediately.
I'm taking it that it uses Sony's distinguished mentally-challenged proprietary Vita memory cards?
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol At the Sony fanboys on GAF who think Vita TV is 'huge'. It won't sell a thing. I'd be surprised if it sells over 20K in its first NPD. I mean, we've had both Apple and Google (Ouya too lol) spectacularly fail in this arena and they've both pushed and put a million times more effort into Google and Apple TV than Sony ever have with the Vita, we've even still got the majority of Sony studios unwilling to touch the Vita with a bargepole. This thing has no reason to exist and won't change a single person's mind about the Vita platform who wasn't sold on it already.
Man, I can't wait for the NPD tears when this thing is outsold 50x by the 2DS.
I think this new push - the new Vita SKU and this - is an attempt to get more development. A $100 media and gaming playstation box is a really good idea, but I agree that anchoring it to the Vita eco-system could make it kind of stillborn...
the size / aesthetic / price is all good though. Almost so good it could detrimentally affect their other products if it caught on. I am much more prepared to part with this kind of money and play the good games I know Vita has, than part with £400-500 this Christmas on a next-gen machine. Hopefully its not too hard to convert games / rip out all the touch/back screen stuff and most of the best games are available immediately.
I'm taking it that it uses Sony's distinguished mentally-challenged proprietary Vita memory cards?
I can very confidently state that you're pretty much alone there. There won't be a single person considering a Vita over a PS4/XB1 this holiday. Also, the PS4 and XB1 lineup just for this holiday is better and more attractive to the mainsteam consumer than the complete Vita library is.
Yes, it still uses the hilariously priced Vita memory cards.
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I can very confidently state that you're pretty much alone there. There won't be a single person considering a Vita over a PS4/XB1 this holiday. Also, the PS4 and XB1 lineup just for this holiday is better and more attractive to the mainsteam consumer than the complete Vita library is.
Yes, it still uses the hilariously priced Vita memory cards.
AFAIK its still Japan only this year, so it wouldn't be going up against PS4/X1 hype anyway, but once those launch windows are out of the way, I think this is an attractive thing if they can back it up with games.
the Vita memory card thing is a dealbreaker for me anyway atm.
edit: I don't agree with Sony fans on GAF saying its gonna mow everything down, but I don't think its a bad idea either.
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The Vita TV just makes me wonder why Vita itself doesn't have HDMI out.
Oh well, I'll get it just for that reason, although I doubt a lot of other people will.
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The Vita TV just makes me wonder why Vita itself doesn't have HDMI out.
Oh well, I'll get it just for that reason, although I doubt a lot of other people will.
because they found a way to make vitards pay $100 for it.
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Vita TV is neat but it seems like a lot of games will be fucked with no touchscreen input. You can't use a Vita as a controller?
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Vita TV is fun news to wake up to. I'm definitely down for one. Hopefully this means the Vita will get all the major media apps its missing (which is everything but netflix)
I wonder how saves will work. I don't have PS+ and no real desire to get it but I don't want to plug my vita into this to transfer saves :-\
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol At the Sony fanboys on GAF who think Vita TV is 'huge'. It won't sell a thing. I'd be surprised if it sells over 20K in its first NPD. I mean, we've had both Apple and Google (Ouya too lol) spectacularly fail in this arena and they've both pushed and put a million times more effort into Google and Apple TV than Sony ever have with the Vita
Those things are basically christmas gifts at this point. Don't know what to give someone? How about a roku. Might as well be their tag line
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p.s. the next nthing that moans about "oh, LCD? but OLED was the defining point of the Vita" gets a free kick in the cock - especially those who were , but 2-3 weeks ago , defending the removal of 3D from the 3DS
or moaning about not being able to play Gravity Rush - a game they've had ZERO interest in - on the Vita TV that they, really, have no interest in either.
The stench ... THE FUCKING STENCH.... It's time to nuke some people out my twitter line.
For the record - deeply Don't Give A Shit about the new Vita model and , whilst the Vita TV price is probably going to make it a no brainer, i really wanted an all-in-one unit Vita that had TV out - not some separate hardware dong thing
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I was kind of waiting for a 2nd gen Vita to jump in but no way would I want to give up OLED. I guess the 1st gen units might drop in price so I could get one of those, but I'll admit that I'm interested in the Vita TV.
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yeah, already at 14980 locally second hand - i've got two already, a third would be pushing it but.... if they get down further? Yeah, i'll bite!
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Vita TV is neat but it seems like a lot of games will be fucked with no touchscreen input. You can't use a Vita as a controller?
Not being able to use the Vita for TV remote play or as a controller does seem kind of stupid.
p.s. the next nthing that moans about "oh, LCD? but OLED was the defining point of the Vita" gets a free kick in the cock - especially those who were , but 2-3 weeks ago , defending the removal of 3D from the 3DS
or moaning about not being able to play Gravity Rush - a game they've had ZERO interest in - on the Vita TV that they, really, have no interest in either.
The stench ... THE FUCKING STENCH.... It's time to nuke some people out my twitter line.
It is pretty dumb that the Vita TV isn't going to play all Vita games though- at least the 2DS plays everything.
For the record - deeply Don't Give A Shit about the new Vita model
Definitely- it seems like a downgrade with the OLED screen removal, too. Really disappointed with the lack of TV out and especially the pathetic amount of built-in memory. 1GB...lmao. :lol ::)
and , whilst the Vita TV price is probably going to make it a no brainer, i really wanted an all-in-one unit Vita that had TV out - not some separate hardware dong thing
The problem with the Vita TV is that it's not really a $99 device. You need a controller and you need a memory card for it. That $150 bundle they have is only $50 less than the 12 GB PS3 model.
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The problem with the Vita TV is that it's not really a $99 device. You need a controller and you need a memory card for it. That $150 bundle they have is only $50 less than the 12 GB PS3 model.
pretty sure the -actual- market for this that all 341 people have a controller and a memory card already ;)
the "well we think there's this market" is almost certainly not quite in the same ball park - though the form factor and SONY WOW LOOK AT THIS WOW might go some way to helping (?) i seriously don't know any more. Consumers are fucking idiots
BALETTED
you know - i'm just going to stop moaning and get these people -off- my twitter feed - i like them as people but their thought process regarding bending to circumstances is just really too weird for me to comprehend.
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because they found a way to make vitards to pay $100 for it.
Actually I can't think of any Vita game right now that I'd want to record video footage of, so I'll probably hold off until then. /notavitardiswear :-[
Yes it does seem deceptively cheap considering the controller + card needed to play Vita games on it.
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Did DC seriously just compare Vita's OLED to 3DS's 3D. :lol
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what kind of flowers for algernon type shit has sony been taking lately
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i wouldn't write the vita tv off so quickly, i think it'll take off fairly well, especially when they get all their streaming shit together
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well, the big mistake i see there is calling it the vita tv, when it plays a lot more than just vita games
the second is the paltry amount of internal memory, i don't understand why all these companies treat internal memory like it's some kind of precious commodity
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Vita TV is neat but it seems like a lot of games will be fucked with no touchscreen input. You can't use a Vita as a controller?
Not being able to use the Vita for TV remote play or as a controller does seem kind of stupid.
Apparently it will (along with giving it DS4 Support via firmware update)
UPDATE: We’ve been sent a few more details on the system from Sony.
•There will be a system software update to patch in DualShock 4 support.
•It can connect to other PS Vitas via ad hoc mode.
•Two DualShock 3 controllers can be paired to the system, allowing for playing PS1 titles.
•PS Vita can be used as a controller for some Wii U like functionality.
•Will support “nasne”, a networked recorder and media storage device.
also
You are able to use touch controls with PS Vita TV after all, although it doesn’t sound like the most intuitive or natural of systems. Instead of flicking or tapping as you would on the Vita screen, you press L3 or R3 to activate a pointer, which can then be moved around.
something at least :lol
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So I don't need a Vita for Vita TV? I'd like to wait for reviews of it to drop, but this sounds like something I'd be all over. The promo shots remind me of the PSone :drool
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they really should have put 8GB in there, even if that meant jacking the price up $20
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I'd rather buy that TV thing than a vita or a ps4. It's actually a really good idea, I'm shocked.
Weren't Microsoft rumoured to be shrinking 360 tech into a micro TV box type thing?
I'm still hoping that's the case there on MS.
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Guessing as "defining feature" was my exact words used to describe the OLED and 3D today that I'm off DC's timeline now
Who needs that buzzkill hater? :heh
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Did DC seriously just compare Vita's OLED to 3DS's 3D. :lol
What are you trying to say? That OLED is more important than 3D? It's not called the Vita OLED.
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That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.
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This will sell well among the following groups: existing vita owners who no longer care about dat OLDED, future PS4 owners who want laggy PS4 gameplay on a secondary TV, people who in 2013 don't already have a box that steams netflix, and gamers who've been playing vidya on a console that's 400 gflop for nearly a decade who now want to play vidya on one that's 40 GFLOPs.
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I'd definitely buy one if it could play PS2 games (off PSN) somehow.
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Namco Bandai
distantmantra gundam game for ps4 no title so please look forward in 2016
As expected!
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Actually this thing can play MH P3rd right? Hmmmmm
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i wouldn't write the vita tv off so quickly, i think it'll take off fairly well, especially when they get all their streaming shit together
Can you name one reason anyone who previously was not interested in Vita would now be? It's not like Vita TV is really any cheaper than the real Vita since you need to spend $150 to actually play some games. As well as that, tonnes of Vita games are unplayable on the thing and the Vita is hardly drowning in games.
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The first NPD for this thing:
(http://i.imgur.com/hjOStEG.gif)
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i wouldn't write the vita tv off so quickly, i think it'll take off fairly well, especially when they get all their streaming shit together
Can you name one reason anyone who previously was not interested in Vita would now be? It's not like Vita TV is really any cheaper than the real Vita since you need to spend $150 to actually play some games. As well as that, tonnes of Vita games are unplayable on the thing and the Vita is hardly drowning in games.
it plays more than vita games
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That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.
todaysyouth.jpg
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That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.
:comeon
You don't agree?
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Well, I think it offers a fairly decent feature set for the money in comparison to some streaming boxes. I'm not gonna run out and buy one, and I don't think it's going to set the world on fire, but I don't think it's going to bomb out, and I don't think it's a dumb idea.
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That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.
:comeon
You don't agree?
OLED is a meaningless acronym to 99% of people. 3D is the tentpole feature of the system and is what the thing is named after.
Well, I think it offers a fairly decent feature set for the money in comparison to some streaming boxes. I'm not gonna run out and buy one, and I don't think it's going to set the world on fire, but I don't think it's going to bomb out, and I don't think it's a dumb idea.
Oh, it will bomb (I'm talking sub 50K NPD debut here).
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That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.
:comeon
You don't agree?
OLED is a meaningless acronym to 99% of people. 3D is the tentpole feature of the system and is what the thing is named after.
I didn't mean sales, lol.
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OLED is nice but it's not a system seller.
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OLED is nice but it's not a system seller.
3D was? I thought everyone hated 3D.
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OLED is nice but it's not a system seller.
3D was? I thought everyone hated 3D.
I don't think it was anywhere near as important as they hoped, but I do think it probably generated some enthusiasm. Not nearly enough to justify it as the focal point of the console, but enough that I'm sure some customers were intrigued by the optional glasses-less 3D.
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well, the big mistake i see there is calling it the vita tv, when it plays a lot more than just vita games
the second is the paltry amount of internal memory, i don't understand why all these companies treat internal memory like it's some kind of precious commodity
yeah, the memory card limit hurts the vita and it matters more here.
Vita TV has a USB port, unlike the Vita, but it's a stretch to think Sony will let you put games on an external drive.
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I thought about buying it for PS1 games but my PS3 can do that so it's just PSP and a limited number of Vita games.
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Now that we know that Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin is for PS3/PS4, I'm starting to wonder if Persona 5 will follow suit.
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Vita TV in a nutshell
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Now that we know that Ryu Ga Gotoku Ishin is for PS3/PS4, I'm starting to wonder if Persona 5 will follow suit.
Of course it is.
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So basically games originally developed for current-gen, but will get a bit of a resolution/performance bump on new-gen hardware.
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I think Vita Tv actually is pretty awesome.
It's cheap.
Will make another good streaming box for the home.
It plays vita and PSP games and well I don't have any of those systems so for a couple of games here and there it will be nice.
And could basically serve as an "extra" PS4 if remote play works as well.
If I get a PS4, I see no reason to not get this rather cheap little extension.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4ISp5g-u4g
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I think Vita Tv actually is pretty awesome.
It's cheap.
Will make another good streaming box for the home.
It plays vita and PSP games and well I don't have any of those systems so for a couple of games here and there it will be nice.
And could basically serve as an "extra" PS4 if remote play works as well.
If I get a PS4, I see no reason to not get this rather cheap little extension.
Nobody has mentioned if has flash memory, but if they make you buy a Vita memory card, you can see yourself spending upwards to $100 just for a decent sized one.
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I think Vita Tv actually is pretty awesome.
It's cheap.
Will make another good streaming box for the home.
It plays vita and PSP games and well I don't have any of those systems so for a couple of games here and there it will be nice.
And could basically serve as an "extra" PS4 if remote play works as well.
If I get a PS4, I see no reason to not get this rather cheap little extension.
Nobody has mentioned if has flash memory, but if they make you buy a Vita memory card, you can see yourself spending upwards to $100 just for a decent sized one.
Hey, looks like I'll just be playing one Vita game at a time.
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I think Vita Tv actually is pretty awesome.
It's cheap.
Will make another good streaming box for the home.
It plays vita and PSP games and well I don't have any of those systems so for a couple of games here and there it will be nice.
And could basically serve as an "extra" PS4 if remote play works as well.
If I get a PS4, I see no reason to not get this rather cheap little extension.
Nobody has mentioned if has flash memory, but if they make you buy a Vita memory card, you can see yourself spending upwards to $100 just for a decent sized one.
The feature list mentions that it also has the 1gb internal memory like the Vita 2000 and they have a bundle that comes with a controller and a 8gb card.
What they need to do is drop those memory card prices more then ffs
(http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/vitatvoutline.jpg)
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An entire gig?
:bow dat Sony :bow2
:bow dat killzone gif :bow2
:bow dat oled :bow2
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I think this could have a lot of potential whenever Gaikai (is that the name? Gakkai? Bukkake?) is released- and streaming means no overpriced Vita memory card is necessary. But I just can't get over the bundle being $150 when you can get a PS3 for $199. Plus if the main focus is video streaming, you can get a Roku box for like fifty bucks or Google Play for even less.
1GB of memory isn't enough for Vita games like Killzone, BTW.
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Nobody wants to play Killzone on Vita, we're good.
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Nobody wants to play Killzone on Vita, we're good.
killzone.gif
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KILLZONE :rejoice
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I think this could have a lot of potential whenever Gaikai (is that the name? Gakkai? Bukkake?) is released- and streaming means no overpriced Vita memory card is necessary. But I just can't get over the bundle being $150 when you can get a PS3 for $199. Plus if the main focus is video streaming, you can get a Roku box for like fifty bucks or Google Play for even less.
1GB of memory isn't enough for Vita games like Killzone, BTW.
You can still buy the cart :P
Nobody wants to play Killzone on Vita, we're good.
I do.
KILLZONE :rejoice
I honestly can't hate the series even though its just wasted potential
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http://www.jp.playstation.com/psvitatv/game/psvitalist/
there is a preliminary list of vita games that work on vita tv and it's missing many of the bigger games (uncharted, gravity daze, wipeout, etc.) wipeout only uses the touchscreen for menus.
and the basic, $100 version doesn't come with a remote. you need a dual shock 3 (or 4, or Vita?)..or a bravia tv ???
pressing L3/R3 (click in the stick) brings up cursors to simulate touch screen. so why couldn't wipeout work?
I DONT SEE PERSONA
Or read Japanese to understand PERUSONA
persona is on there. translate it to english and search.
ペルソナ４ ザ・ゴールデン
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I DONT SEE PERSONA
Or read Japanese to understand PERUSONA
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http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/09/09/sony-announce-a-new-console-playstation-vita-tv/
UPDATE: We’ve been sent a few more details on the system from Sony.
There will be a system software update to patch in DualShock 4 support.
It can connect to other PS Vitas via ad hoc mode.
Two DualShock 3 controllers can be paired to the system, allowing for playing PS1 titles.
PS Vita can be used as a controller for some Wii U like functionality.
Will support “nasne”, a networked recorder and media storage device.
If Vita can be used as a controller, all games might work.
I would love it if I can just play from the Vita directly to my TV with Vita TV or use a controller, depending on the game. That would be absolutely perfect.
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OLED is nice but it's not a system seller.
3D was? I thought everyone hated 3D.
You didn't mean sales, lol
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pressing L3/R3 (click in the stick) brings up cursors to simulate touch screen. so why couldn't wipeout work?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Sony have finally done it. They've created a monstrous control scheme designed to hack on functionality to a system that's even more cumbersome and unintuitive than the 3DS dual analog boat. Man, this thing is a joke. I thought Nintendo were going to get 1st, 2nd and 3rd price at the worst hardware of 2013 awards but at this rate Sony might just scoop them.
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pressing L3/R3 (click in the stick) brings up cursors to simulate touch screen. so why couldn't wipeout work?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Sony have finally done it. They've created a monstrous control scheme designed to hack on functionality to a system that's even more cumbersome and unintuitive than the 3DS dual analog boat. Man, this thing is a joke. I thought Nintendo were going to get 1st, 2nd and 3rd price at the worst hardware of 2013 awards but at this rate Sony might just scoop them.
???
You don't really need to access the touchscreen features for most games and on the system menu at this point. A controller is fine. I see nothing wrong with clicking the stick to make system navigation easier with a cursor, either.
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yeah, that's why it's surprising and confusing. you can navigate around the vita solely with the d-pad and buttons. having a cursor mode doesn't really make sense if games that require the touch screen won't work.
actually, recent updates took functionality away from the touch screen. before to access emulator settings menu for PSP and PS1 games, you held down on the touch screen. now you hold the home button and it's an option there.
as much as I like the idea, the whole thing is a mess of compatibility issues.
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I don't get why they are launching with the DualShock 3 and not the 4. It seems like the 4 could handle a lot of the front touch stuff (like Uncharted's dumb charcoal rubbings or swiping up to attack). Just seems like they are making the transition more of a pain than it needs to be.
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I don't get why they are launching with the DualShock 3 and not the 4. It seems like the 4 could handle a lot of the front touch stuff (like Uncharted's dumb charcoal rubbings or swiping up to attack). Just seems like they are making the transition more of a pain than it needs to be.
its coming out in November while the 4 is coming February 2014, they gonna need a controller to push the game playing thing (vita, psp, ps1, etc) until the 4 comes around (apparently its going to get a firmware update to support the DS4)
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it's like sony are trying to create an ecosystem just by shitting out hardware.
the software is the glue, and the only best in class software element they have are first party exclusives for the PS4. they don't have anything like a unified OS or familiar featureset, just a bizarre frankenstein network of semi compatible discrete devices.
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case in point:
(http://i.imgur.com/QpeKGEq.jpg)
okay sony, you have a clutch of middlingly popular AAA IPs. clutch on to them until your knuckles go white in lieu of developing a relevant and unified infrastructure and maybe you'll end up like nintendo.
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I don't get why they are launching with the DualShock 3 and not the 4. It seems like the 4 could handle a lot of the front touch stuff (like Uncharted's dumb charcoal rubbings or swiping up to attack). Just seems like they are making the transition more of a pain than it needs to be.
its coming out in November while the 4 is coming February 2014, they gonna need a controller to push the game playing thing (vita, psp, ps1, etc) until the 4 comes around (apparently its going to get a firmware update to support the DS4)
So someone who has a NA PS4 with DS4 won't be able to use it on a Japanese Vita TV before the Japanese PS4 launch?
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Just wait for them to announce it for the actual TV console crowd.
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I don't get why they are launching with the DualShock 3 and not the 4. It seems like the 4 could handle a lot of the front touch stuff (like Uncharted's dumb charcoal rubbings or swiping up to attack). Just seems like they are making the transition more of a pain than it needs to be.
its coming out in November while the 4 is coming February 2014, they gonna need a controller to push the game playing thing (vita, psp, ps1, etc) until the 4 comes around (apparently its going to get a firmware update to support the DS4)
So someone who has a NA PS4 with DS4 won't be able to use it on a Japanese Vita TV before the Japanese PS4 launch?
I guess that will depend on when this apparent firmware update will happen.
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I don't get why they are launching with the DualShock 3 and not the 4. It seems like the 4 could handle a lot of the front touch stuff (like Uncharted's dumb charcoal rubbings or swiping up to attack). Just seems like they are making the transition more of a pain than it needs to be.
its coming out in November while the 4 is coming February 2014, they gonna need a controller to push the game playing thing (vita, psp, ps1, etc) until the 4 comes around (apparently its going to get a firmware update to support the DS4)
So someone who has a NA PS4 with DS4 won't be able to use it on a Japanese Vita TV before the Japanese PS4 launch?
I guess that will depend on when this apparent firmware update will happen.
It says the patch is coming in the future. Vita TV releases the day before the PS4. A day later is the future...probably not. Is vita tv announced for NA or Europe?
And the notes say it uses the expensive proprietary cards as game storage. That's dumb. The one gig internal storage is really only enough for game saves or the tiniest of games. The thinking is that people will buy the expensive memory for the system, when more it seems like people will pass on the system because of the expensive memory.
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I don't get why they are launching with the DualShock 3 and not the 4. It seems like the 4 could handle a lot of the front touch stuff (like Uncharted's dumb charcoal rubbings or swiping up to attack). Just seems like they are making the transition more of a pain than it needs to be.
its coming out in November while the 4 is coming February 2014, they gonna need a controller to push the game playing thing (vita, psp, ps1, etc) until the 4 comes around (apparently its going to get a firmware update to support the DS4)
So someone who has a NA PS4 with DS4 won't be able to use it on a Japanese Vita TV before the Japanese PS4 launch?
I guess that will depend on when this apparent firmware update will happen.
It says the patch is coming in the future. Vita TV releases the day before the PS4. A day later is the future...probably not. Is vita tv announced for NA or Europe?
And the notes say it uses the expensive proprietary cards as game storage. That's dumb. The one gig internal storage is really only enough for game saves or the tiniest of games. The thinking is that people will buy the expensive memory for the system, when more it seems like people will pass on the system because of the expensive memory.
Hence why I say that will depend on the timing plus I assume the Firmware won't be much different from the Vita one so will it appear for PS4 launch in the other territories? We'll have to see.
No US/EU details right now (if it ever happens)
Well they have a bundle that gives you a 8gb stick and a controller for 50 more so they might want to steer people in that direction but I agree that the pricey memory could pose an issue. That's why they should adjust the memory card prices again imo
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i wouldn't write the vita tv off so quickly, i think it'll take off fairly well, especially when they get all their streaming shit together
Can you name one reason anyone who previously was not interested in Vita would now be? It's not like Vita TV is really any cheaper than the real Vita since you need to spend $150 to actually play some games. As well as that, tonnes of Vita games are unplayable on the thing and the Vita is hardly drowning in games.
it plays more than vita games
If I understand it correctly, the main point is that it's a $100 TV streaming box, which is about what the Roku, Apple TV, etc. go for, correct? And it's not just a Sony-branded, sexy streaming box, it ALSO PLAYS GAMES! -- which is exactly the marketing tactic Sony should be using, but historically they've failed to message properly.
This is reminding me a lot of the PSX introduction: addresses a current need, hardware is sexy as hell, and a surprisingly competitive price point, but off-message and likely to fail because of it.
The PSX was launched as a PS2... which also did DVR, DVD playback, DVD-R authoring and recording, and whatever PSN was called last generation through its built-in ethernet. It was a stunningly great piece of hardware which sold for either ¥70,000 or ¥60,000, which is what standard, non-gaming, non-net-connected DVRs were selling for at that time.
And it fell flat on its face, because of its focus as gaming hardware, even though it did all that other great stuff.
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i wouldn't write the vita tv off so quickly, i think it'll take off fairly well, especially when they get all their streaming shit together
Can you name one reason anyone who previously was not interested in Vita would now be? It's not like Vita TV is really any cheaper than the real Vita since you need to spend $150 to actually play some games. As well as that, tonnes of Vita games are unplayable on the thing and the Vita is hardly drowning in games.
it plays more than vita games
If I understand it correctly, the main point is that it's a $100 TV streaming box, which is about what the Roku, Apple TV, etc. go for, correct? And it's not just a Sony-branded, sexy streaming box, it ALSO PLAYS GAMES! -- which is exactly the marketing tactic Sony should be using, but historically they've failed to message properly.
This is reminding me a lot of the PSX introduction: addresses a current need, hardware is sexy as hell, and a surprisingly competitive price point, but off-message and likely to fail because of it.
The PSX was launched as a PS2 which also did DVR, DVD playback, DVD-R authoring and recording, and whatever PSN was called last generation through its built-in ethernet. It was a stunningly great piece of hardware which sold for either ¥70,000 or ¥60,000, which is what standard, non-gaming, non-net-connected DVRs were selling for at that time.
And it fell flat on its face.
the PSX came out in a very different climate. sony are now a proprietary dinosaur. only apple can survive on anything like a closed loop ecosystem and that's because every other person on the planet owns one of their devices. everything else survives by throwing their net open to as many opportunities as possible; take the roku box, that thing opens itself up to any app on any OS that'll give it the time of day.
sony have a bad case of little man syndrome when it comes to software ecosystems. maybe it's a zany japanese pride thing, an unwelcome hand-me-down from the walled garden console model, but nobody is going to care about a sony media hub which is only compatible with other sony devices and sony servcies. that just isn't how shit gets done anymore.
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Wait, so Vita TV doesn't do Netflix, Amazon Prime Streaming, etc. ?
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Wait, so Vita TV doesn't do Netflix, Amazon Prime Streaming, etc. ?
It Only Does... PSN.
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Wait, so Vita TV doesn't do Netflix, Amazon Prime Streaming, etc. ?
The vita only has Netflix and Youtube. It will probably get Amazon, Hulu and maybe a few more once this releases. But it will never have the channel/app selection of something like Roku which has everything from Tested.com to Giantbomb to a dozen cooking channels
I don't think it matters that much though. Most consumers are probably fine with the big apps
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the PSX came out in a very different climate. sony are now a proprietary dinosaur. only apple can survive on anything like a closed loop ecosystem and that's because every other person on the planet owns one of their devices. everything else survives by throwing their net open to as many opportunities as possible; take the roku box, that thing opens itself up to any app on any OS that'll give it the time of day.
sony have a bad case of little man syndrome when it comes to software ecosystems. maybe it's a zany japanese pride thing, an unwelcome hand-me-down from the walled garden console model, but nobody is going to care about a sony media hub which is only compatible with other sony devices and sony servcies. that just isn't how shit gets done anymore.
It has Netflix. No idea about Amazon Prime streaming or w/e. The Vita has a ton of third party apps for accessing content. I don't think that was what headwalk was getting at, though.
My initial thought, on reading Headwalk's post, was that Sony was again, foolhardily attempting to push ANOTHER proprietary Sony format through Vita TV, much like their maligned music service, the closed eBook ecosystem of Sony Reader, their ATRAC3 compression format for digital music, their Memory Sticks which they opened up -- only to go entirely proprietary again for PS Vita. That would have been utter foolishness, and I'm relieved to hear that's not the case.
I'm still missing something then, but I'm also on the closed loop Apple ecosystem.
Is this about not being able to modify the Vita TV? Use non-Sony applications on it?
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the PSX came out in a very different climate. sony are now a proprietary dinosaur. only apple can survive on anything like a closed loop ecosystem and that's because every other person on the planet owns one of their devices. everything else survives by throwing their net open to as many opportunities as possible; take the roku box, that thing opens itself up to any app on any OS that'll give it the time of day.
sony have a bad case of little man syndrome when it comes to software ecosystems. maybe it's a zany japanese pride thing, an unwelcome hand-me-down from the walled garden console model, but nobody is going to care about a sony media hub which is only compatible with other sony devices and sony servcies. that just isn't how shit gets done anymore.
It has Netflix. No idea about Amazon Prime streaming or w/e. The Vita has a ton of third party apps for accessing content. I don't think that was what headwalk was getting at, though.
My initial thought, on reading Headwalk's post, was that Sony was again, foolhardily attempting to push ANOTHER proprietary Sony format through Vita TV, much like their maligned music service, the closed eBook ecosystem of Sony Reader, their ATRAC3 compression format for digital music, their Memory Sticks which they opened up -- only to go entirely proprietary again for PS Vita. That would have been utter foolishness, and I'm relieved to hear that's not the case.
I'm still missing something then, but I'm also on the closed loop Apple ecosystem.
Is this about not being able to modify the Vita TV? Use non-Sony applications on it?
keeping feature parity with the wii u isn't going to cut it. having netflix, facebook, twitter et al is the equivalent of boasting about having a watch, calculator and snake on your phone just as iOS was rising to prominence.
trying to build your own closed ecosystem which is both reflexive and self sustaining is never going to happen, not unless you have a socially defining product and a time machine. microsoft are burning billions in their attempt to retrofit windows in to something which can compete with google or apple on their own terms, and with the numerous extensions in to (eurgh) "cloud" the idea of an ecosytsem is more vast and nebulous than ever.
neat little discrete devices are now doomed to a life of niche appeal, neat little devices on their own closed loop network with some basic extended functionality will only fare a little better.
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I don't know why Vita couldn't run a heavily customized version of Android with market access. Just create a Sony app market like Amazon did.
They even already had the fucking storefront from their stupid Xperia Play phone.
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/wireless/detail-page/sonyeric-xperia_play-veriz-game-lg.jpg)
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case in point:
(http://i.imgur.com/QpeKGEq.jpg)
okay sony, you have a clutch of middlingly popular AAA IPs. clutch on to them until your knuckles go white in lieu of developing a relevant and unified infrastructure and maybe you'll end up like nintendo.
To be fair Sony always develop tons of new IPs each generation, I don't see why this one would be any different.
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I don't know why Vita couldn't run a heavily customized version of Android with market access. Just create a Sony app market like Amazon did.
They even already had the fucking storefront from their stupid Xperia Play phone.
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/wireless/detail-page/sonyeric-xperia_play-veriz-game-lg.jpg)
Said this before Vita was even announced. This is what the next playstation portable should have been but they were so into making another dedicated hw handheld device and now it's too late.
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case in point:
(http://i.imgur.com/QpeKGEq.jpg)
It's funny looking back at that now.
(http://i.imgur.com/9jfB1xi.jpg)
:teehee
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It's just a very strange product. The concept of a PS set-top box makes sense in theory, but tying it so closely to an existing, failed platform when it can't even run a number of said platform's highest-profile native games?
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It's just a very strange product. The concept of a PS set-top box makes sense in theory, but tying it so closely to an existing, failed platform when it can't even run a number of said platform's highest-profile native games?
I thought Sony addressed this already and said that there would be a way to play these games after all?
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case in point:
(http://i.imgur.com/QpeKGEq.jpg)
okay sony, you have a clutch of middlingly popular AAA IPs. clutch on to them until your knuckles go white in lieu of developing a relevant and unified infrastructure and maybe you'll end up like nintendo.
To be fair Sony always develop tons of new IPs each generation, I don't see why this one would be any different.
my point isn't about the quality or depth of their exclusives, it's that bringing exclusive gaming IP to the OS war table is like bringing a club to a lightsabre fight. the vast majority of people who want to play those games will play those games once on a single device which is optimised for gaming, then they'll go back to their android/iOS devices for everything else.
like, i get that there's still an opening for a living room OS, but does anyone really think sony are capable of building an ecosystem from the ground up? maybe if sony was a dominant force in TV and all the vita TV shit was included in their sets, as well as being free to anyone else who wanted one, and they had some major partner like amazon going all in on their platform - extending it out to all their portable devices. maybe then, they'd have a icicle's chance in hell.
this is why the xbone $500 price tag makes my brain seize up. they actually have a chance of using the living room to salvage their whole metro gamble. surely that's infinitely more important than any short term PPU gain?
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It's just a very strange product. The concept of a PS set-top box makes sense in theory, but tying it so closely to an existing, failed platform when it can't even run a number of said platform's highest-profile native games?
I thought Sony addressed this already and said that there would be a way to play these games after all?
They released a limited compatibility list. It'll be expanded somewhat with patches, but there's no way to replicate back touch or the camera as is, and the cursor-based touchscreen emulation won't work very well beyond menus.
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Pretty sure they will start bundle it with the DS4 next year once the production cost goes down, I believe their hope is that in the future the DS4 becomes the standart controller for the vita TV which would address the touch screen problem thanks to it's trackpad.
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It's possible Sony doesn't release it in the states until the controller can be bundled. Companies occasionally do stranger things for the Japanese market, like that umd trade in program or selling the 3ds xl without a charger. afaik it doesn't have an ir receiver and can't connect to phones/tablets like that google dongle. comes off like a big oversight to buy a device you can't control.
and the new Vita looks really cheap (screen is cardboard in this shot).
(http://i2.minus.com/iZODuZZkvUe1r.jpg)
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Pretty sure they will start bundle it with the DS4 next year once the production cost goes down, I believe their hope is that in the future the DS4 becomes the standart controller for the vita TV which would address the touch screen problem thanks to it's trackpad.
Trackpad wouldn't address the camera or rear touch at all, and it'd really only be a serviceable substitute for gestural controls, not anything involving specific areas of the screen.
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How cheap is the new vita?
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How cheap is the new vita?
The new Vita will be tagged at ¥18,980 ($190), a downward adjustment from the older unit's ¥19,980 ($200) base price, but Sony is, for now, tight lipped on whether these savings will be seen in other parts of the world.
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Trackpad wouldn't address the camera or rear touch at all, and it'd really only be a serviceable substitute for gestural controls, not anything involving specific areas of the screen.
It would still be better than using the stick, since you won't have to drive the cursor around and they could map the entire screen to it, so with some practice you could even get used to the positioning. It's clicky as well, no need to bind a separate button. Imagine using a stick on a laptop to drive the cursor. :yuck