Sony Japan conference

[MCD]

welp it's over

see you at tgs

thank you for following your favorite MS shill

[MCD]

one more piece of news

[cool breeze]

PS Vita console lol

this is great.  I want this. 

PS Vita TV

no wonder the new Vita didn't have TV out

[MCD]

apple tv by sony

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TV TV TV TV TV

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TV TV TV TV TV

[Himu]

TV TV TV TV TV

[MCD]

how can we make use of all the vita motherboards we have laying around?

[cool breeze]

Vita TV is half the price of the Vita, but doesn't include controller or memory card.

Works with dual shock 3, plays PS1, PSP, and Vita games.  And hooks with PS4 to use Dual shock 4, it seems.

[maxy]

Vita

[Vertigo]

This chick is a terrible actress

[MCD]

you want vita with hdmi?

fuck you get this vita console because fuck you

[MCD]

thank you for reading the bore everyone

hope you enjoyed it

[Vertigo]

Sorry, Killzone Lan Party?   

[Shaka Khan]

11 kills in 30 seconds.

[mjemirzian]

Vita TV looks kinda cool.

That last vid was a marketers frenzied dream.

[cool breeze]

theoretically you can hook that up to another TV and stream PS4 games to it (restricted to vita's res, probably). nvm, that's actually a touted feature.

$100 (w/o the controller)

Can't play all Vita games since it doesn't have a touch screen.

[Purple Filth]

I was wondering why GAF was down then I saw this thread

[radioheadrule83]

I'd rather buy that TV thing than a vita or a ps4. It's actually a really good idea, I'm shocked.

Weren't Microsoft rumoured to be shrinking 360 tech into a micro TV box type thing?

[maxy]

Vita TV = Sony answer to Ouya

 

[Rahxephon91]

PS Vita tv thing is kind of neat.

Single player/Co-op Phantasy Star game by Tri Ace? Thats also awesome. Vita's got some stuff.

Actually this conference had a lot of cool things. Not huge great things, but plenty of "hey ok cool" things.

Sony is doing pretty awesome honestly.

[fistfulofmetal]

So Deep Down is a randomly generated loot based Dark Souls?

That sounds pretty cool.

[Cascade]

  At the Sony fanboys on GAF who think Vita TV is 'huge'. It won't sell a thing. I'd be surprised if it sells over 20K in its first NPD. I mean, we've had both Apple and Google (Ouya too lol) spectacularly fail in this arena and they've both pushed and put a million times more effort into Google and Apple TV than Sony ever have with the Vita, we've even still got the majority of Sony studios unwilling to touch the Vita with a bargepole. This thing has no reason to exist and won't change a single person's mind about the Vita platform who wasn't sold on it already.

Man, I can't wait for the NPD tears when this thing is outsold 50x by the 2DS.

[radioheadrule83]

At the Sony fanboys on GAF who think Vita TV is 'huge'. It won't sell a thing. I'd be surprised if it sells over 20K in its first NPD. I mean, we've had both Apple and Google (Ouya too lol) spectacularly fail in this arena and they've both pushed and put a million times more effort into Google and Apple TV than Sony ever have with the Vita, we've even still got the majority of Sony studios unwilling to touch the Vita with a bargepole. This thing has no reason to exist and won't change a single person's mind about the Vita platform who wasn't sold on it already.

Man, I can't wait for the NPD tears when this thing is outsold 50x by the 2DS.

I think this new push - the new Vita SKU and this - is an attempt to get more development. A $100 media and gaming playstation box is a really good idea, but I agree that anchoring it to the Vita eco-system could make it kind of stillborn...

the size / aesthetic / price is all good though. Almost so good it could detrimentally affect their other products if it caught on. I am much more prepared to part with this kind of money and play the good games I know Vita has, than part with £400-500 this Christmas on a next-gen machine. Hopefully its not too hard to convert games / rip out all the touch/back screen stuff and most of the best games are available immediately.

I'm taking it that it uses Sony's distinguished mentally-challenged proprietary Vita memory cards?

[Cascade]

At the Sony fanboys on GAF who think Vita TV is 'huge'. It won't sell a thing. I'd be surprised if it sells over 20K in its first NPD. I mean, we've had both Apple and Google (Ouya too lol) spectacularly fail in this arena and they've both pushed and put a million times more effort into Google and Apple TV than Sony ever have with the Vita, we've even still got the majority of Sony studios unwilling to touch the Vita with a bargepole. This thing has no reason to exist and won't change a single person's mind about the Vita platform who wasn't sold on it already.

Man, I can't wait for the NPD tears when this thing is outsold 50x by the 2DS.

I think this new push - the new Vita SKU and this - is an attempt to get more development. A $100 media and gaming playstation box is a really good idea, but I agree that anchoring it to the Vita eco-system could make it kind of stillborn...

the size / aesthetic / price is all good though. Almost so good it could detrimentally affect their other products if it caught on. I am much more prepared to part with this kind of money and play the good games I know Vita has, than part with £400-500 this Christmas on a next-gen machine. Hopefully its not too hard to convert games / rip out all the touch/back screen stuff and most of the best games are available immediately.

I'm taking it that it uses Sony's distinguished mentally-challenged proprietary Vita memory cards?

I can very confidently state that you're pretty much alone there. There won't be a single person considering a Vita over a PS4/XB1 this holiday. Also, the PS4 and XB1 lineup just for this holiday is better and more attractive to the mainsteam consumer than the complete Vita library is.

Yes, it still uses the hilariously priced Vita memory cards.

[radioheadrule83]

I can very confidently state that you're pretty much alone there. There won't be a single person considering a Vita over a PS4/XB1 this holiday. Also, the PS4 and XB1 lineup just for this holiday is better and more attractive to the mainsteam consumer than the complete Vita library is.

Yes, it still uses the hilariously priced Vita memory cards.

AFAIK its still Japan only this year, so it wouldn't be going up against PS4/X1 hype anyway, but once those launch windows are out of the way, I think this is an attractive thing if they can back it up with games.

the Vita memory card thing is a dealbreaker for me anyway atm.

edit: I don't agree with Sony fans on GAF saying its gonna mow everything down, but I don't think its a bad idea either.

[mjemirzian]

The Vita TV just makes me wonder why Vita itself doesn't have HDMI out.

Oh well, I'll get it just for that reason, although I doubt a lot of other people will.

[headwalk]

The Vita TV just makes me wonder why Vita itself doesn't have HDMI out.

Oh well, I'll get it just for that reason, although I doubt a lot of other people will.

because they found a way to make vitards pay $100 for it.

[AdmiralViscen]

Vita TV is neat but it seems like a lot of games will be fucked with no touchscreen input. You can't use a Vita as a controller?

[hampster]

Vita TV is fun news to wake up to. I'm definitely down for one. Hopefully this means the Vita will get all the major media apps its missing (which is everything but netflix)

I wonder how saves will work. I don't have PS+ and no real desire to get it but I don't want to plug my vita into this to transfer saves

At the Sony fanboys on GAF who think Vita TV is 'huge'. It won't sell a thing. I'd be surprised if it sells over 20K in its first NPD. I mean, we've had both Apple and Google (Ouya too lol) spectacularly fail in this arena and they've both pushed and put a million times more effort into Google and Apple TV than Sony ever have with the Vita

Those things are basically christmas gifts at this point. Don't know what to give someone? How about a roku. Might as well be their tag line

[DCharlieJP]

p.s. the next nthing that moans about "oh, LCD? but OLED was the defining point of the Vita" gets a free kick in the cock - especially those who were , but 2-3 weeks ago , defending the removal of 3D from the 3DS

or moaning about not being able to play Gravity Rush - a game they've had ZERO interest in - on the Vita TV that they, really, have no interest in either.

The stench ... THE FUCKING STENCH.... It's time to nuke some people out my twitter line.

For the record - deeply Don't Give A Shit about the new Vita model and , whilst the Vita TV price is probably going to make it a no brainer, i really wanted an all-in-one unit Vita that had TV out - not some separate hardware dong thing

[originalz]

I was kind of waiting for a 2nd gen Vita to jump in but no way would I want to give up OLED.  I guess the 1st gen units might drop in price so I could get one of those, but I'll admit that I'm interested in the Vita TV.

[DCharlieJP]

yeah, already at 14980 locally second hand - i've got two already, a third would be pushing it but.... if they get down further? Yeah, i'll bite!

[bork]

Vita TV is neat but it seems like a lot of games will be fucked with no touchscreen input. You can't use a Vita as a controller?

Not being able to use the Vita for TV remote play or as a controller does seem kind of stupid.

p.s. the next nthing that moans about "oh, LCD? but OLED was the defining point of the Vita" gets a free kick in the cock - especially those who were , but 2-3 weeks ago , defending the removal of 3D from the 3DS

or moaning about not being able to play Gravity Rush - a game they've had ZERO interest in - on the Vita TV that they, really, have no interest in either.

The stench ... THE FUCKING STENCH.... It's time to nuke some people out my twitter line.

It is pretty dumb that the Vita TV isn't going to play all Vita games though- at least the 2DS plays everything.

For the record - deeply Don't Give A Shit about the new Vita model

Definitely- it seems like a downgrade with the OLED screen removal, too.  Really disappointed with the lack of TV out and especially the pathetic amount of built-in memory.  1GB...lmao.   

and , whilst the Vita TV price is probably going to make it a no brainer, i really wanted an all-in-one unit Vita that had TV out - not some separate hardware dong thing

The problem with the Vita TV is that it's not really a $99 device.  You need a controller and you need a memory card for it.  That $150 bundle they have is only $50 less than the 12 GB PS3 model. 

[DCharlieJP]

The problem with the Vita TV is that it's not really a $99 device.  You need a controller and you need a memory card for it.  That $150 bundle they have is only $50 less than the 12 GB PS3 model.

pretty sure the -actual- market for this that all 341 people have a controller and a memory card already

the "well we think there's this market" is almost certainly not quite in the same ball park - though the form factor and SONY WOW LOOK AT THIS WOW might go some way to helping (?) i seriously don't know any more. Consumers are fucking idiots


BALETTED

you know - i'm just going to stop moaning and get these people -off- my twitter feed - i like them as people but their thought process regarding bending to circumstances is just really too weird for me to comprehend.

[mjemirzian]

because they found a way to make vitards to pay $100 for it.

Actually I can't think of any Vita game right now that I'd want to record video footage of, so I'll probably hold off until then. /notavitardiswear

Yes it does seem deceptively cheap considering the controller + card needed to play Vita games on it.

[Tasty]

Did DC seriously just compare Vita's OLED to 3DS's 3D.

[Eel O'Brian]

what kind of flowers for algernon type shit has sony been taking lately

[Eel O'Brian]

i wouldn't write the vita tv off so quickly, i think it'll take off fairly well, especially when they get all their streaming shit together

[Eel O'Brian]

well, the big mistake i see there is calling it the vita tv, when it plays a lot more than just vita games

the second is the paltry amount of internal memory, i don't understand why all these companies treat internal memory like it's some kind of precious commodity

[Purple Filth]

Vita TV is neat but it seems like a lot of games will be fucked with no touchscreen input. You can't use a Vita as a controller?

Not being able to use the Vita for TV remote play or as a controller does seem kind of stupid.

Apparently it will (along with giving it DS4 Support via firmware update)

UPDATE: We’ve been sent a few more details on the system from Sony.
•There will be a system software update to patch in DualShock 4 support.
•It can connect to other PS Vitas via ad hoc mode.
•Two DualShock 3 controllers can be paired to the system, allowing for playing PS1 titles.
•PS Vita can be used as a controller for some Wii U like functionality.
•Will support “nasne”, a networked recorder and media storage device.

also

You are able to use touch controls with PS Vita TV after all, although it doesn’t sound like the most intuitive or natural of systems. Instead of flicking or tapping as you would on the Vita screen, you press L3 or R3 to activate a pointer, which can then be moved around.

something at least 

[Raban]

So I don't need a Vita for Vita TV? I'd like to wait for reviews of it to drop, but this sounds like something I'd be all over. The promo shots remind me of the PSone

[Eel O'Brian]

they really should have put 8GB in there, even if that meant jacking the price up $20

[ferrarimanf355]

I'd rather buy that TV thing than a vita or a ps4. It's actually a really good idea, I'm shocked.

Weren't Microsoft rumoured to be shrinking 360 tech into a micro TV box type thing?

I'm still hoping that's the case there on MS.

[Tasty]

Guessing as "defining feature" was my exact words used to describe the OLED and 3D today that I'm off DC's timeline now

Who needs that buzzkill hater?

[AdmiralViscen]

Did DC seriously just compare Vita's OLED to 3DS's 3D.

What are you trying to say? That OLED is more important than 3D? It's not called the Vita OLED.

[Tasty]

That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.

[Flannel Boy]

This will sell well among the following groups: existing vita owners who no longer care about dat OLDED, future PS4 owners who want laggy PS4 gameplay on a secondary TV, people who in 2013 don't already have a box that steams netflix, and gamers who've been playing vidya on a console that's 400 gflop for nearly a decade who now want to play vidya on one that's 40 GFLOPs.

[Tasty]

I'd definitely buy one if it could play PS2 games (off PSN) somehow.

[Mr. Gundam]

Namco Bandai

distantmantra gundam game for ps4 no title so please look forward in 2016

As expected!

[Tasty]

Actually this thing can play MH P3rd right? Hmmmmm

[Cascade]

i wouldn't write the vita tv off so quickly, i think it'll take off fairly well, especially when they get all their streaming shit together

Can you name one reason anyone who previously was not interested in Vita would now be? It's not like Vita TV is really any cheaper than the real Vita since you need to spend $150 to actually play some games. As well as that, tonnes of Vita games are unplayable on the thing and the Vita is hardly drowning in games.

[Cascade]

The first NPD for this thing:

[Eel O'Brian]

i wouldn't write the vita tv off so quickly, i think it'll take off fairly well, especially when they get all their streaming shit together

Can you name one reason anyone who previously was not interested in Vita would now be? It's not like Vita TV is really any cheaper than the real Vita since you need to spend $150 to actually play some games. As well as that, tonnes of Vita games are unplayable on the thing and the Vita is hardly drowning in games.

it plays more than vita games

[DCharlieJP]

That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.

todaysyouth.jpg

[Tasty]

That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.

You don't agree?

[Eel O'Brian]

Well, I think it offers a fairly decent feature set for the money in comparison to some streaming boxes. I'm not gonna run out and buy one, and I don't think it's going to set the world on fire, but I don't think it's going to bomb out, and I don't think it's a dumb idea.

[Cascade]

That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.

You don't agree?

OLED is a meaningless acronym to 99% of people. 3D is the tentpole feature of the system and is what the thing is named after.

Well, I think it offers a fairly decent feature set for the money in comparison to some streaming boxes. I'm not gonna run out and buy one, and I don't think it's going to set the world on fire, but I don't think it's going to bomb out, and I don't think it's a dumb idea.

Oh, it will bomb (I'm talking sub 50K NPD debut here).

[Tasty]

That OLED was a more valuable and defendable feature than 3D ever was.

You don't agree?

OLED is a meaningless acronym to 99% of people. 3D is the tentpole feature of the system and is what the thing is named after.

I didn't mean sales, lol.

[demi]

OLED is nice but it's not a system seller.