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Title: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 04, 2013, 05:03:44 PM
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/03/dell-may-have-a-winner-with-its-windows-powered-venue-8-pro/


What's the scoop on Bay Trail, boritos? This looks pretty rad considering that it can run full Windows apps on a smaller formfactor.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 04, 2013, 05:22:22 PM
No HDMI out, though :(

Toshiba's got one for $30 more that has the HDMI out, releases in November
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2013, 05:23:54 PM
Nexus 7. :aah
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on October 04, 2013, 05:34:16 PM
Everyone is saying that Bay Trail is finally gonna fix everything that was wrong with Atom. I can't comment without trying one for myself late this year but yeah, most OEMs are back in the game with Win 8.1 devices.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 04, 2013, 05:36:11 PM
The Toshiba one seems a little chunkier than this thing though.. Dell's tablet is pretty much Android Tablet size.

I did consider the new Nexus 7 for a while, but was gunshy because my 2012 Nexus 7 turned into a slow POS after a few updates. I understand it's the Tegra 3's fault more than anything, but still...

 Baytrail does seem nice though, it can even run TF2 somewhat  :leon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdcLbqESxoE
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: chronovore on October 06, 2013, 10:34:58 AM
No HDMI out, though :(

Toshiba's got one for $30 more that has the HDMI out, releases in November
Why do you know so much about this stuff? How many PCs do you buy a year?
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 06, 2013, 02:11:42 PM
:lol I don't buy much at all, I just keep up with the tech news sites and play with stuff I see in stores

I do regularly sell off stuff to buy other stuff, though

Right now I have a cheap Hisense Sero 7 Android tablet, an iPad Mini, and a Surface RT. Still rocking the PC I built in 2010.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: chronovore on October 06, 2013, 06:26:52 PM
I getcha. I am so out of the loop on tech anymore. I used to be a walking spec sheet for Apple gear and the last 3 generations of consoles. Now, it is like I've flushed all that, as well as not kept up with the current stuff.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on October 11, 2013, 07:58:26 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UVGQfpYHbPM
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 11, 2013, 09:02:07 PM
Yeah, looks great, but I need that HDMI
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on October 11, 2013, 09:06:19 PM
Won't USB to HDMI work? I've seen couple of such cables for Android/iPad tablets.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 12, 2013, 12:34:57 AM
Only if the chipset supports MHL.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2013, 03:12:02 AM
Quote from: Zeknurn
I went through the thread and grabbed all the impressions. It seems like a solid device and by having video out via usb it fixes my main issue with it.

  • The display is good, in fact better feeling than I thought given the relatively low resolution. The stylus is shipped but hasn't arrived yet.
  • Ice Storm Extreme score is 8684. [Nexus 7 7061]
  • It is light! It feels like the 2013 version of the Nexus 7 actually. The screen is way better then the Acer W3's.
  • Yeah, it seems to be pushing 1920x1080 just fine through a DisplayLink adapter from StarTech.
  • I also have 12.3 GB free out of the box. A micro USB port is on the side and the windows button is on the top. Kind of odd haha.
  • The build quality is good. If you've ever felt the new Nexus 7, it basically feels the exact same. The back is rubbery and it is very thin. Had a tiny bit of light bleed on the bottom of the screen but nothing out of the ordinary for an IPS display.
  • Oh, I also had most of the Clover Trail tablets. You can definitely tell that there is a speed difference between those and this one. Bay Trail looks promising so far! No more stutters while surfing or anything like that. Everything is fluid and fast.
  • Yeah. This generation is Atom in name only. The feel is so much better...
  • The cable is very short...I would guess around 4 feet.
  • I had the Acer W3 so I'm used to the 8 inch form factor. I actually like it a lot. It's amazing how much it can do even though it is so small. The actual tablet is much lighter than the W3 and that also helps. Some of the icons can be hard to click on but with scaling improvements in 8.1, it isn't so bad. The screen is really nice with wide viewing angles so that also helps. Once the pen comes and if it works, this tablet will become amazing. Imagine inking on OneNote in an 8 inch form factor while running other x86 programs in the background. It's pretty cool. I read a lot of medical books and having a light tablet that I can read and annotate with is very exciting. We shall see on Monday!


By the way, Civ 5 is installing via Steam haha. I REALLY think this test will be a bust, although some benchmarks peg this processor as competitive with the Ivy Bridge i3 in the x202E.
  • Didn't think you'd ever see Civ 5 playing on an 8 inch tablet did you? =) Works well!! I used low settings for everything with 1280 x 800 resolution.
  • It gets VERY warm near the bottom where the CPU is but other than slightly slow turns, it plays Civ 5 like a champ! This is awesome!!
[Frame rate is in the teens but it doesn't matter with Civ. The processor seems to handle the background tasks pretty well early in the game. Later on I'm not so sure. I do have other games but I am about to run out of space on this HDD ugh. I'm curious to see how Starcraft 2 plays on it. DiRT 2 will probably play well too. Civ 5 is just more fun because it is optimized for touch.]
  • Problem...the tablet does not recognize non-powered external hard drives...ugh! Flash drives work though...this is like the TPT2 all over again

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87650074&postcount=2569

(http://i.imgur.com/ORcq6bt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tyA5T48.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GmwijnZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Fh9Mk9m.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/u0YU0kM.jpg)

Source: http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/dell/59202-venue-8-pro-owner-s-lounge.html
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: milchs evil twin on October 27, 2013, 06:46:40 AM
These fuckers made it 399€ for the base model over here.

Fuck them.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 27, 2013, 06:15:04 PM
this guy did some gaming tests on the Asus t100, which has the same guts as this Dell and all the other 8" win8.1 tablets, so expect pretty much the same performance:

http://www.youtube.com/user/th3drow?feature=watch

this one impressed me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUquWwt1Hd4

Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 27, 2013, 10:43:56 PM
Holy crap, Fallout 3 even runs semi-decently.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
yeah, this thing's shit hot.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: hampster on October 27, 2013, 11:57:54 PM
I saw this thread a few weeks ago and ignored it. It wasn't until Eel mention on the Cruncheons that it is a full 8.1 tablet that I got interested. It definitely looks hot, I'm thinking a christmas present to myself :-[ I would love to load one up with a selection of indie games from steam/desura. It seems up to the task but the somewhat poor performance of bastion in the Eel's youtube link has me wondering how often I would run into stubborn games
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 28, 2013, 11:44:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/GirBgqD.jpg

This thing is fucking awesome. Runs indie games and older PC games like a champ.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2013, 11:48:39 PM
Where'd you get one? Earliest they'll ship 64gb ones on the website is Nov 11.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 28, 2013, 11:54:48 PM
Walmart had 'em. I was at the electronics deparment and spotted a boxed unit behind the glass lockup.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Beezy on October 29, 2013, 02:54:38 AM
Oh shit. I wonder just how hot it gets while gaming though.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 29, 2013, 10:47:00 AM
Oh shit. I wonder just how hot it gets while gaming though.

It gets acceptably warm, but not completely hot. Don't think my iPad ever got as hot as this guy did after an hour of Fallout 3 though.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Brehvolution on October 29, 2013, 11:11:44 AM
That Civ V pic gave me a chub. I'd really like to know how bad it crawls after 300 turns.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 29, 2013, 12:28:04 PM
You can install some FO3 mods for low-spec rigs and get better performance. I bet if you spend a few minutes tweaking it out you can get the framerate at a steady 30
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 29, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Yeah I was looking into those last night, I should get those set up and see if they make a difference. But even without those mods installed, on low settings the framerate hit 30fps at times but would dip to around 20, which is... really not that awful considering how tiny this fuckin thing is. Just blown away at the amount of tech companies can now stuff in such a small package.

I was also able to get an external display via HDMI hooked up with one of these things we had at work: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009V53L06/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 30, 2013, 12:08:27 AM
Imagine what's gonna be available in five years.  Fuck, I can't wait until they can put my brain into a robot and I can leave this shitty, fleshy container behind.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on October 30, 2013, 12:27:13 AM
@Arbys

Is Atom really different and better now? I still have nightmares from Atom.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 30, 2013, 12:37:06 AM
@Arbys

Is Atom really different and better now? I still have nightmares from Atom.
As someone who's owned a few Atom netbooks, the answer is YES. Atom is pretty real now... I guess Intel isn't messing around this generation. I would put the performance at about the same as a Core 2 Duo-era processor which in hindsight isn't saying much but very impressive given that the CPU is passively-cooled (?) and runs at a much lower wattage. Windows 8.1 and pretty much every non-gaming app I've thrown at it works really snappily, much more so than the Surface RT I owned for all of three weeks.

Really I sound like a shill for this fuckin tablet but I'm in love. Best gadget I've purchased in the last three years.

Also, a present for himumu:

(http://i.imgur.com/ajX1R73.jpg)
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on October 30, 2013, 01:20:32 AM
Nice. Surface 1 drove me crazy at times when updating or downloading so to gear it's better than that is awesome.

Thanks, Arbys.

And oh, can I assume the performance is at least close to Tegra 4 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbAbTiGsJZ8

Would definitely seal the deal for me.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 30, 2013, 03:06:42 AM
ordered one.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Reb on October 30, 2013, 04:39:29 AM
I hope this doesn't come out in Holland until I get my buying impulse under control.

Do I really need a third tablet?
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 02, 2013, 02:19:41 PM
Whoa, this thing is pretty fast for the size. I thought Surface 1 was okay for what I'm using it for (word processing and web), but this is quite a leap forward. Still setting it up, gotta backup and delete the recovery and mount an sd card, but after just 15 minutes with it I'm already impressed.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: huckleberry on November 02, 2013, 02:57:21 PM
i am super interested in one of these, especially after listening to you guys talk about it on the cruncheons.
eel and drinky please give detailed impressions.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 02, 2013, 03:30:13 PM
I know we will!
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: hampster on November 02, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
Whoa, this thing is pretty fast for the size. I thought Surface 1 was okay for what I'm using it for (word processing and web), but this is quite a leap forward. Still setting it up, gotta backup and delete the recovery and mount an sd card, but after just 15 minutes with it I'm already impressed.

Which did you get? The dell or one of other 3 you mentioned on the cruncheons?
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: milchs evil twin on November 02, 2013, 07:06:54 PM
@Arbys

Is Atom really different and better now? I still have nightmares from Atom.
As someone who's owned a few Atom netbooks, the answer is YES. Atom is pretty real now... I guess Intel isn't messing around this generation. I would put the performance at about the same as a Core 2 Duo-era processor which in hindsight isn't saying much but very impressive given that the CPU is passively-cooled (?) and runs at a much lower wattage. Windows 8.1 and pretty much every non-gaming app I've thrown at it works really snappily, much more so than the Surface RT I owned for all of three weeks.

Really I sound like a shill for this fuckin tablet but I'm in love. Best gadget I've purchased in the last three years.

Also, a present for himumu:

(http://i.imgur.com/ajX1R73.jpg)

Man, the foliage in Shenmue still doesn't look too bad.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 02, 2013, 07:11:54 PM
The Dell, it's the only one out right now.

Seems I can't use a microSD card to create a recovery drive and copy the partition so I can free up 7GB of space, so now I have to wait until the USB OTG cable comes in and use a flash drive. Only 10.2 GB free space right now :(

Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: milchs evil twin on November 02, 2013, 08:02:41 PM
The Dell, it's the only one out right now.

Seems I can't use a microSD card to create a recovery drive and copy the partition so I can free up 7GB of space, so now I have to wait until the USB OTG cable comes in and use a flash drive. Only 10.2 GB free space right now :(

Do you know how much SkyDrive storage is free with a standard account?

I got 25 GB with my phone, and I love it. I think with the Metro app, it doesn't store everything on your device, just downloads it when you need it. So maybe that might help a bit.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: demi on November 02, 2013, 08:12:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/GirBgqD.jpg

This thing is fucking awesome. Runs indie games and older PC games like a champ.

Nice, glad it looks good on there cause I sure as hell aint debugging shit
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 02, 2013, 08:18:27 PM
The Dell, it's the only one out right now.

Seems I can't use a microSD card to create a recovery drive and copy the partition so I can free up 7GB of space, so now I have to wait until the USB OTG cable comes in and use a flash drive. Only 10.2 GB free space right now :(

Do you know how much SkyDrive storage is free with a standard account?

I got 25 GB  with my phone, and I love it. I think with the Metro app, it doesn't store everything on your device, just downloads it when you need it. So maybe that might help a bit.

Says I have 7 GB
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 03, 2013, 01:13:57 AM
Free SkyDrive accounts give 7GB storage nowadays, they used to provide 25 GB back when they didn't have a usable sync client. People who were already using the service before they reduced the quota got to keep their free 25GB
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on November 03, 2013, 01:53:55 AM
http://winsupersite.com/mobile-devices/dell-venue-8-pro-whats-missing
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 03, 2013, 07:57:41 AM
Yeah, I agree with most of that. Screen auto-brightness is an odd complaint, as you can easily turn it off.  It really comes down to what you expect out of it, and what you're going to use it for. I sold my iPad Mini yesterday evening, as I didn't really have a use for it after I bought this, but it won't be a replacement for some folks.

I'll save extended talk for the next Cruncheons, but since that might be a while (after PS4 launch), I'll mention a couple of things here.

First of all, the desktop is tiny, so if you're going to be using desktop programs a lot without a KB/M you might want to get a stylus and save yourself quite a bit of frustration. I'm gonna order that $35 "active" stylus off Dell's website.

Secondly, curb your expectations for the gaming. Yeah, it runs some surprising stuff, but graphics-intensive games will make it run pretty hot. You're not going to be playing those for any length of time. Indie stuff and old PC games are fine, some make it get a bit warm but not uncomfortably so.

Battery life is pretty good, considering the size of this thing and that it's running a full desktop operating system. It's going to fluctuate moreso than an iPad or Android tablet, of course. From a 100% charge last night, it's at 58% right now with around 3 1/2 hours of active normal use (web browsing, downloading and installing updates and programs).

Also, remember to update your BIOS and drivers. The latest versions are on Dell's website.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: huckleberry on November 03, 2013, 10:36:28 AM
i watched a youtube video of a guy last night trying to change the resolution of a youtube video playing in chrome on the venue. it was hilarious how many times he tried to tap on one thing and ended tapping another. still looks pretty damn sweet though.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on November 03, 2013, 02:02:40 PM
Yeah battery and standby times are weird. I don't know if it's because Windows Update does a bunch of things in the background while the tablet is on sleep mode but I'm getting really good standby times on some days and garbage on others.

I bought the stylus and it is TRASH for any sort of handwriting applications. A WACOM this is not, but it works in a pinch if you need to draw things or use it as a pointer device (sidenote, it works awesome for old adventure games and slower dungeon crawlers like the first two Fallouts -- not sure if it's the best input device for say, a Diablo 2 or Path of Exile). I do love that I can beam what I'm drawing straight onto a projector we have at work with a DisplayLink dongle.

i watched a youtube video of a guy last night trying to change the resolution of a youtube video playing in chrome on the venue. it was hilarious how many times he tried to tap on one thing and ended tapping another. still looks pretty damn sweet though.
Touch recognition is hit and miss thanks to how small it is. I think the way iPads and Android tablets work is that they make an approximation of what you're supposed to be touching depending on where it registers your fingerpress, whereas Windows is more precise.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 03, 2013, 02:20:28 PM
Touch in Windows 8 works the same way, it's just that (as with DPI scaling) desktop apps need to be updated to support it (which many might never be). I've heard Chrome in particular has major problems with both touch and high DPI on Windows.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: chronovore on November 05, 2013, 02:07:59 AM
Eel, you seem to run through a lot of hardware. Do you end up spending money, or does selling it rapidly mean it doesn't cost you much to stay on the upgrade treadmill?
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 05, 2013, 08:24:40 AM
I spend a little, but I almost always sell the previous piece to offset the cost. For instance, I sold my iPad Mini for $250 to help pay for this, so out of pocket I paid about $75 (counting tax).
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: hampster on November 06, 2013, 12:06:41 AM
Eel, does the video out over USB work well?
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 06, 2013, 12:19:43 AM
haven't tried it
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 07, 2013, 09:19:17 AM
http://youtu.be/jPPY4m8iY0k
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 07, 2013, 11:39:46 PM
this tab's the perky nubian tetas. been using it at work for just about everything, even some once-off unit test builds. bay trail's the real shit.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 07, 2013, 11:40:04 PM
dp
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 08, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
Taking my 32GB back to Wal-Mart, Amazon has the 64GB for $327, which is only $6 more than I paid for the 32GB with tax. If you're thinking about getting one of these, absolutely spring for the 64GB.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on November 08, 2013, 12:31:03 PM
Dell has the 64gb for $299 now. They credited me $50 for bitching about it.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 08, 2013, 04:12:10 PM
Dell has the 64gb for $299 now. They credited me $50 for bitching about it.

Why do these not have HDMI-out?   :'(
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on November 08, 2013, 06:15:03 PM
Lenovo IdeaTab Miix2 8-Inch is also now available on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaTab-Miix2-8-Inch-Tablet/dp/B00F2ENTYI

Difference between it and the Dell:

Quote from: Wpcentral
The Miix2 though sports an 8 MP rear camera (versus 5 MP for the Dell) and a 2 MP front camera (versus 1.2 MP for the Dell). The Miix 2 also features the unique Veriface Face Recognition Software, so you can just login with your mug and the Miix 2 also weighs less (0.77lb versus 0.87lb for the Dell). Finally, the Dell is a matte black with a soft-touch paint while the Lenovo is a silver-metal.

And from the comments there:

Quote
One difference is in the CPU/RAM combination:

Miix 2 uses the Intel z3740 with 2 GB LPDDR3. (http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/ideatab/miix-series/miix-2/#techspecs (http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/ideatab/miix-series/miix-2/#techspecs))

Dell uses the Intel z3740D with 2 GB DDR3L-RS. (http://www.dell.com/us/p/dell-venue-8-pro/pd (http://www.dell.com/us/p/dell-venue-8-pro/pd))

The CPU in the Miix 2 is better. Found a summary here (http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/08/intel-bay-trail%EF%BC%8Dt.png (http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/08/intel-bay-trail%EF%BC%8Dt.png)).

http://www.wpcentral.com/now-shipping-lenovo-ideatab-miix2-8-inch-tablet-amazon (http://www.wpcentral.com/now-shipping-lenovo-ideatab-miix2-8-inch-tablet-amazon)
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 08, 2013, 06:39:04 PM
battery life is worse on the lenovo
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on November 08, 2013, 06:41:47 PM
For real? Shitbin then.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 08, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
well, it states 7 hours, whereas the Dell states 10

guess that's the tradeoff for a lighter tablet with a bit of a processor boost
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 09, 2013, 07:11:51 PM
How does the Asus T100 stack up?
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 09, 2013, 09:03:08 PM
From what I've read- same processor, better battery life, mediocre build quality, bad touchpad, software bugs.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 12, 2013, 10:59:44 AM
Really seriously considering getting one of these things now.  The Dell price is awesome but I need HDMI out, so I'd probably have to go with the Asus. 
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 13, 2013, 01:43:05 PM
Asus T100 ordered.  If nothing else, it's going to perform better than my HP DM1Z, plus I'll finally have a laptop with an SSD and a tablet to use for comic reading.  Gonna load it up with emulators...fuck that shitty GCW-Zero now.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on November 13, 2013, 04:44:38 PM
Let me know how that T100 works out for you. Was thinking about getting one for my mom for Christmas.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 15, 2013, 06:16:40 PM
Really, really impressed with the T100.  Build quality is great and nothing feels cheap about it like I read in some reviews.  The finish on the plastic used also gives everything a more metallic appearance.

Only tried a few games so far.  Skullgirls runs at 60 FPS at 1280x768 with 3D backgrounds turned off and I actually got the Street Fighter IV Benchmark test to run at average of 69.81 FPS (A Rank) with v-sync off, ultra-low 640x480 res, BUT with backgrounds turned on high and character model details on medium.  That's extremely impressive for a little tablet- my HP DM1Z could not run SSF4 well with backgrounds turned on at all.

Was able to play CoD Black Ops II multiplayer on my DM1Z at around 60 FPS on low detail at 800x600...I wonder if I can get better results on this thing.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 16, 2013, 01:25:12 PM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5500/10889392034_b61c398f34.jpg)

:drool
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on November 16, 2013, 02:09:06 PM
Next gen Atom can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on November 16, 2013, 05:19:34 PM
Dell Wireless 1538 Dual-Band 2x2 802.11n WiFi + Bluetooth® 4.0

The answer is yes, of course.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 16, 2013, 05:20:59 PM
Yeah, you can. You can also hook up a USB OTG cable and use kb/mouse through that.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 16, 2013, 10:49:08 PM
Outrun 2 C2C runs at 1366x768 at 60 fps.  Fuuuuuuck this is awesome.

Can you pair a BT Mouse & Keyboard with this?

Would be amazing for some Anachronox/ Deus Ex/ ePSXe/ DOS era gaming.

The Asus T100 comes with a full keyboard/touchpad and has a USB 3.0 port- just plug a mouse in and you're set.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on November 25, 2013, 12:09:47 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Venue-Pro-Tablet-Windows/dp/B00FEE7B1I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385399342&sr=8-2&keywords=dell+venue+8+pro

$229
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 25, 2013, 02:45:34 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Venue-Pro-Tablet-Windows/dp/B00FEE7B1I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385399342&sr=8-2&keywords=dell+venue+8+pro

$229

The deal is already over.  Plus it was for the 32 GB version anyway.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on November 25, 2013, 03:05:39 PM
Still available here: http://www.costco.com/Dell-Venue-8-Pro-WiFi-Tablet-%7c-Intel-Quad-Core-%7c-Windows-8.1-%7c-Office-2013.product.100082672.html

Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on November 25, 2013, 03:19:23 PM
And still the 32GB version  :yuck
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 25, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Venue-8-Pro-8-Tablet-32GB-Memory-Featuring-Windows-8.1/32243242

Looks like they're clearing out the 32GB version
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: milchs evil twin on December 05, 2013, 08:11:56 PM
This thing is $99 (limited number per store)/$199 while stocks last at MS Stores on Monday, as well as online:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/5/5179738/good-deal-dell-venue-8-pro-for-99-at-microsoft-stores

Americans get all the good deals...
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: border on December 09, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
I got one for $99 today -- had to roll up to the Microsoft Store at 6:30 in the morning to do it though.

Are there any good PC games that work with only a touch interface? 
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 09, 2013, 04:01:48 PM
Congrats! Some useful links:

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/dell/

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/dell/59470-dell-venue-8-pro-game-experiences-thread-not-just-touch-enabled-games.html

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/dell/59590-things-do-when-you-get-your-tablet.html

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/dell/59417-dell-venue-8-pro-compatible-x86-games-playable-touch-controls.html
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 11, 2013, 12:43:01 AM
T100T (as it is known in Japan) purchased today in a one-off sale.

Probably going to be a WHY DID I BUY THIS!? purchase but hey... time to load up dem emuratorz
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on December 11, 2013, 05:23:13 PM
What are you guys using for cases on this thing? I've been using this ugly generic silver tablet case for the past few weeks: http://www.kmart.com/inland-soft-eva-carry-case-for-tablets-up/p-018V006681578000P

Found this case on Amazon and bought it, hope it works out better for me: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GPH6T8E/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 11, 2013, 05:26:49 PM
Nothing. I made a sleeve out of padded microfiber cloths and duct tape a while back, I just slip it in that when I'm done using it.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 11, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
Cave shmups at full speed in tate mode with a controller/small form stick #fap
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on December 12, 2013, 08:29:50 AM
Cave shmups at full speed in tate mode with a controller/small form stick #fap

:drool

Nothing to regret with these purchases-  The cheaper Win 8 tablets are awesome!  I can see myself selling it off in a year or two, or giving it to my wife, if a similarly-priced model comes out with more HD space though.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 12, 2013, 08:56:10 AM
yeah, the 500gb should be enough - i don't really want anything on this other than the emu stuff to be honest.

Looks like i am off to India soon as well, 2-4 weeks. :O
Could be time for me and the T100 to bond! :D
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 27, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
Had a weird problem with my DV8 tonight. Screen started flickering dark bands randomly, and had some pretty bad image retention. No amount of rebooting seemed to help, so I figured maybe the backlight was going out. I looked at the various forums to see if anyone else had the issue, but didn't find anything other than some people having trouble waking the screen from sleep. I checked on Amazon, and to my surprise the return date was January 31st, which is pretty damned good for something I bought on November 8.  I set up a return/replacement. Of course, five minutes later the screen banding and retention seemed to fade away, but I'm not taking any chances on it shitting the bed again a month from now after the return period is over. Hopefully they won't give me any grief over it.

Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 06, 2014, 10:17:14 PM
Venue Pro? Install Steam --> Install Kingdom Rush --> Profit.

If this is how I get my iOS games I am cool with it.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on January 07, 2014, 05:36:06 PM
Two interesting challengers from this CES:

ASUS VivoTab Note 8 Packs Stylus, Windows 8.1 and Office for $299: http://blog.laptopmag.com/asus-vivotab-note-8-specs-price


ThinkPad 8 Tablet Hands-on: Full HD Screen, Aluminum Design for $399: http://blog.laptopmag.com/thinkpad-8
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 07, 2014, 06:48:34 PM
That Lenovo Thinkpad tablet is supposed to be the new hotness. Interested to see the price point on the 128gb option.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: cool breeze on January 26, 2014, 01:16:34 PM
I'm considering one of these windows small tablets for my next tablet.  Are they basically netbooks in terms of functionality? And how much free space is there after all the windows stuff is installed?

that lenovo thinkpad looks nicer, but the dell venue 8 pro frequently drops to around $200.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Reb on January 26, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
What about the Dell Venue 11 Pro? Anybody have any experience with that?
Seems to me Windows 8.1 will be more useful with more screen real-estate.

Seriously contemplating buying it.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on January 27, 2014, 09:56:51 AM
Microsoft Store Deals: Dell Venue 8 Pro For $229, Toshiba Encore And Lenovo Miix 2 8-inch Tablets For $249:

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Dell-Venue-8-Pro-Tablet-32GB/productID.289455200?siteID=Emv4RLEHREc-GA63XkwEco.eIbOBqkjRQg

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Toshiba-Encore-WT8-A32M-Touchscreen-Tablet/productID.289565600?siteID=Emv4RLEHREc-zUO_Fx1VecmcJeYwPYt7ew

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Lenovo-Miix-2-8-Touchscreen-Tablet-32GB/productID.288025800?siteID=Emv4RLEHREc-.YJ4.6bYgxMxZu_GO.M8Tg
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on January 27, 2014, 01:46:34 PM
32GB  :yuck
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MCD on January 27, 2014, 01:47:17 PM
Didn't see any deals for the 64gig version. Sorry. :(
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2014, 01:16:00 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Windows-Tablet-windows-tablet/dp/B00GPH6T8E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1390979313&sr=8-3&keywords=ivso
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 09, 2014, 09:29:12 PM
Heads up: there's a Groupon for the superior 64gb Venue, on sale at $249. Wish to fuck I had the disposable income to dispose on that awesome piece of tech. SAD PANDA.

https://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-dell-venue-8-pro-64-gb-quad-core-processor-tablet
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 09, 2014, 09:42:22 PM
Ehhh. Just noticed it's a refurb. STILL THO.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 10, 2014, 01:34:23 AM
refurbs probably get more of a QA look than new
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 10, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
yup, they typically have a human validation pass.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: DCharlieJP on February 11, 2014, 10:30:49 AM
there was no way i could bring my Alienware beastotron on the business trip to India, but the T100... oh my, i loves it.

BUT

I can see an upgrade maybe next year - with a touch more umph we are definitely floating in space.
I no longer need an Ipad, but i would really like to run Reason 7 full blast - too many modules and the t100 starts barfing.

Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 11, 2014, 12:58:18 PM
Coincidentally, I'm about to sell my DV8. It's just too small for my tired old eyes :(
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Reb on February 12, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
there was no way i could bring my Alienware beastotron on the business trip to India, but the T100... oh my, i loves it.

BUT

I can see an upgrade maybe next year - with a touch more umph we are definitely floating in space.
I no longer need an Ipad, but i would really like to run Reason 7 full blast - too many modules and the t100 starts barfing.



What about that resolution though?
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: DCharlieJP on August 07, 2014, 03:03:05 AM
So - what is the logical update from a T100 these days?

I would like to get a little bit more firepower! (i assume Surface Pro 3 ?)

Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on August 07, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
So - what is the logical update from a T100 these days?

I would like to get a little bit more firepower! (i assume Surface Pro 3 ?)

Sure, but the cost is a lot higher.  There are updated T100s out, but they're only a bit faster.  I'm gonna keep mine until at least 2015 before ditching it for something else, I think.  I have a crazy-powerful Sager laptop now so I want to keep with the cheap Win tablets.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: DCharlieJP on August 07, 2014, 08:43:09 PM
yeah, i did a bit of digging and i think i will just truck on with the T100 until next year.

Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on August 08, 2014, 10:31:46 AM
Just wish I could buy that 500 GB keyboard dock.  Don't get why ASUS doesn't sell them.   ???
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: DCharlieJP on August 08, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
yeah, glad I got the 500gb pack when I bought
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: bork on August 08, 2014, 02:53:16 PM
They didn't have it when I got it.    :'(

That said, it's not necessary and would be for messing around with games or whatever.  Something that doesn't matter as much now.

But my plan is to give my current one to my wife and get myself a more powerful model later on.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Reb on August 08, 2014, 03:06:15 PM
I opted out of the 500gb pack. For me it's not really a device to store things on.
I stream all my video and music. Have no desire to play games on it.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 20, 2014, 10:27:51 PM
bought an Asus VIVOTAB Note 8.

I enjoy saying "vivotab" way too much. vivotab vivotab vivotab.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 20, 2014, 11:42:18 PM
posting from vivotab. this is pretty sweet. written with handwriting input panel
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on September 21, 2014, 12:47:24 AM
Is the pen on it any good? The Dell one is total garbage.
Title: Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro looks hot
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 21, 2014, 12:55:11 AM
The included pen itself is a bit lame but I think the digitizer is good (it should work with any Wacom pen l think), based on playing with it using a different pen at the MS store