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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: demi on October 09, 2013, 03:48:19 PM

Title: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: demi on October 09, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
This has been known since the announcement of V, but there are some details here

http://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-vi-is-coming-to-ios-and-android-vii-coul-1443087791

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"It is basically like a remake of the original VI," Tokita said as he proudly revealed his surprise at the end of a presentation about the recent smartphone release of FFV and the upcoming mobile release of FFIV: The After Years. "But there have been some enhancements."

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"The battle systems have been altered for the other [mobile remakes] for Final Fantasy and VI will be the same. For instance grinding was an issue and people had to spend a lot of time leveling up. Now on the mobile devices the battle systems have been adjusted so you don't have to fight as much and can enjoy the game for what it is."

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The graphics, he said, will be refined for cellphones. They'll still be 2D but sharpened, a la the recent mobile release of V.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
:clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 03:50:42 PM
MCD originally posted this thread. Then I couldn't post. Then I see Demi has posted it.

Demi is MCD.

 :hans1

Anyways, hoping VI isn't ugly like V.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: demi on October 09, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
It will be, did you see the quote?

The graphics, he said, will be refined for cellphones. They'll still be 2D but sharpened, a la the recent mobile release of V.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
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The graphics, he said, will be refined for cellphones. They'll still be 2D but sharpened, a la the recent mobile release of V.

Oh god.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 09, 2013, 03:55:14 PM
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The graphics, he said, will be refined for cellphones. They'll still be 2D but sharpened, a la the recent mobile release of V.

Oh god.

:anhuld
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2013, 03:55:32 PM
Square Enix's CEO: “We Must Reform With Urgency”, explains his plan: (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/10/04/square-enix-president-must-reform-urgency/#ry9p6xEw3sDYrkRv.99)

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“The business model is at a turning-point,” starts Matsuda. “Up until now, the profit of home-console games have been decided by price x number [sold]. Development and and sales were divided, and the game developers only needed to concentrate on their work. That’s where the strengths of our company laid within.”

“At the very beginning, the game business started out with ‘how can we get people to insert coins’. Afterwards, consoles became popular, and our company grew as game design and billing [methods] were divided,” Matsuda continues. “Presently, online games are prosperous, which again, has the theme of ‘how can we charge the people,’ as developers and sales have become inseparable. And the devices they can be played on has spread vastly. It’s truly a paradigm shift.”

 “Past gaming generation changes took roughly three to five years. Nowadays, released titles are updated every day, and it only takes about three months for a situation to completely change. In order to react with such speed, it is urgent for development and sales to be unified as one.”

“The former core was ‘standardization’ and now it has become ‘personality’. It is similar to bringing up a fashion brand. An especially important index is ‘asset-turnover ratio’. When making something, developers want to spend more time and money. However, that can be related to lowering the asset-turnover ratio, so the key point is to find a good balance,” explained Matsuda.

“In fact, one of the factors of the final deficit is the delay from the development to release,” Matsuda elaborated. “Such time-lag means a decrease of contact frequency with the players. It is necessary for us to set up a system that allows us to meet the demands of our customers in a more timely manner. We can’t just have a year of leniency. We must reform with urgency.”

2 days later:

 :sabu :sabu :sabu
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on October 09, 2013, 03:59:26 PM
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The Legacy series won't necessarily end with VI, Tokita said, when we asked him if it could include VII, VIII, IX, X and beyond. "We are aware that we have tons of VII fans," he noted. "We have VII fans in our own company. If this Legacy project works out well, we would like to one day be able to work with VII."

DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE! :ufup
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 09, 2013, 04:00:03 PM
guys, we're over reacting, FFV iOS wasn't that...

(http://t.co/0ROX1Xp8y3)

:dayum
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: demi on October 09, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd_7g86zADA
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Yulwei on October 09, 2013, 04:02:10 PM
Day 1
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2013, 04:05:01 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=694380

:sabu
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on October 09, 2013, 04:06:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd_7g86zADA

why they are fighting him in a wind tunnel?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=694380

:sabu

:heh
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Raban on October 09, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
Bummed this isn't polygonal, but not even remotely surprised.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Yulwei on October 09, 2013, 04:09:23 PM
this is the S-E killer app we've all been waiting for

based se
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 04:18:38 PM
guys, we're over reacting, FFV iOS wasn't that...

(http://t.co/0ROX1Xp8y3)

:dayum

We don't talk about FFV ios on this forum.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Trent Dole on October 09, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
Square Enix's CEO: “We Must Reform With Urgency”, explains his plan: (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/10/04/square-enix-president-must-reform-urgency/#ry9p6xEw3sDYrkRv.99)

2 days later:

 :sabu :sabu :sabu
He meant to say remake with urgency.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2013, 04:46:14 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=529926

It's OK guys! Wada is gone everything will be good now!
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 09, 2013, 07:31:29 PM
Why is everyone crying? They are putting FF6 on Ios. Thats great news.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on October 09, 2013, 07:35:20 PM
Why is everyone crying? They are putting FF6 on Ios. Thats great news.

don't you know that ios port are fueled by the souls of kitten and children's?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 09, 2013, 07:42:42 PM
I hate mobile gaming, but I don't see them porting FF6 anywhere else, so I'm open to playing it. It's just a turn based rpg anyway, not like touch controls or whatever are going to be that terrible.

It's not like this is a new game anyway. When they announce FF16 or Chrono Cross 2 as ios games, then I'll get mad.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: demi on October 09, 2013, 07:53:48 PM
Incoming Tiesto...

I hate mobile gaming, but I don't see them porting FF6 anywhere else, so I'm open to playing it. It's just a turn based rpg anyway, not like touch controls or whatever are going to be that terrible.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Raban on October 09, 2013, 08:50:13 PM
When the App Store dropped and I saw the future of mobile gaming, I had no idea it would produce so much bitter fanboy tears.

haters :umad
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 09:38:50 PM
Why is everyone crying? They are putting FF6 on Ios. Thats great news.

I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.

(http://t.co/0ROX1Xp8y3)

There is nothing wrong with FFVI on ios.  There IS something wrong with a version of FFVI that looks dog shit.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 09:42:08 PM
Whether I have access to an emulator or not does not excuse the level of half-assedness that is on that FFV remake. It also stings that they're making a 3d After Years remake - after waiting for years after the FFIV ds remake -  and give V that terrible treatment, as well as likely VI. FFV deserves better than a remake that looks like it was done in rpg maker. So does FFVI. The fact they ignored FFV for its 20th anniversary makes it even worse. Let me guess, they'll release an FFVI ios version for its 20th next year (or this year) and it'll look like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/evkzLWD.jpg)

:sabu

Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 09:52:15 PM
THIS IS YOUR FUTURE:

(http://jcwigriff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kefkabattle.jpg)

:rofl
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 10:06:04 PM
For reference, I don't really care nor have the interest in buying the FF remakes on mobile. It'd be nice to own FFIV remake on my phone, but I'm not in a rush to get it.

I own FFI-VI across, bare minimum, three platforms. So I'm not really one to care about the remakes for games I've beaten time and time again.

However, as someone with respect towards Square Enix's craft, I can't help but be disappointed by the results of Final Fantasy V's mobile remake. I can't respect it, on any level. How a company that prides - or at the very least, prided - itself on visual presentation and aesthetic could release such a mind numbingly visually bland title for a remake of arguably - gameplay-wise - their most influential game, I have no clue and it's telling that you have such a problem with people expressing such issues or calling S-E out for putting out such a cheap product of a marvelous piece of software. But bring up how gamers are this and gamers are that, as if anyone gives a shit.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2013, 10:15:07 PM
Why does Oscar always get so defensive whenever anybody criticizes mobile gaming?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 10:16:55 PM
You know, I don't have a problem with the aesthetic in FFIV psp. It's a beaut, it really is. It's not for everyone, but at the least I can tell they put effort into it. I really hope VI has a similar style. It deserves it.

(http://i.imgur.com/XGWN7Zt.jpg)

Also the presentation in FFIV psp is off the charts. :lawd

http://youtu.be/vwzXq-TcrdA

Fucking hell, that glass shatter, man.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 10:18:37 PM
Why does Oscar always get so defensive whenever anybody criticizes mobile gaming?

Because he's justified.

And he thinks I'm attacking mobile games. I'm not. I attacking S-E spitting on a classics legacy.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2013, 10:23:01 PM
Once mobile games release their focus on IAP, regularly get more effort and monies, allow a direct connection to a TV or PC monitor, and have built-in controller usage, there really won't be any problems. We're just not there yet, but I'm sure we'll all be playing Call of Duty 27 on an iOS or Android device soon enough.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 09, 2013, 10:23:13 PM
The Warriors Directors Cut is terrible. Another remake that ruins a classic. Awful. And it's the only version you can buy in stores.

:tocry
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Raban on October 09, 2013, 10:40:11 PM
Another reason to be defensive for mobile is that its detractors are more often than not judging it based on the past couple years or misinformation, and not what the reality is right now.

The outlook is not nearly as grim as skeptics are making it out to be, and will only get better once those same skeptics jump in and fill the sales margins.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on October 10, 2013, 06:56:03 AM
dragon quest 8 looks exactly like the ps2 version and yet it's still full of people going "I'VE LOST ALL MY FAITH IN SQUARE"

Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 10, 2013, 08:43:42 AM
dragon quest 8 looks exactly like the ps2 version and yet it's still full of people going "I'VE LOST ALL MY FAITH IN SQUARE"

Haha. Perfect.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: pancakesandsex on October 10, 2013, 09:51:12 AM
If FFV ios looked even remotely as good as FF1-2 anniversary and FFIV psp, I would have no issues with these ports.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: DCharlieJP on October 10, 2013, 11:07:10 AM
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Because this is the biggest struggle happening right now with the hardcore gaming base.

nope - it's that PLUS that's now an extra curriculum activity for you

come now, at least be honest about it ... you do have a bit of an Andrex wiff about you at the moment.

Plus - your innocence has gone - you're on a payroll that favors a certain platform so... #handinair - there you go. You'd be all over someone doing the same, there is an obvious pattern recently to what you are posting regardless of merit or whether i do or do not agree with you, but i suspect if someone else was posting as you do you'd be ALL OVER THEM - so you must "suffer like G did" i'm afraid , unfounded or not.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2013, 11:12:29 AM
One of the few times I've seen Oscar-kun catching feels. He must be in deep with this whole "phone gaming is the future" thing.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2013, 11:15:24 AM
Once mobile games release their focus on IAP, regularly get more effort and monies, allow a direct connection to a TV or PC monitor, and have built-in controller usage, there really won't be any problems. We're just not there yet, but I'm sure we'll all be playing Call of Duty 27 on an iOS or Android device soon enough.

We're already seeing a swing back to premium priced Apps on the App Store.  I'd go so far as to say the 99 cent price point is dying as a starting price.  Most new Apps are coming out at $2 or 3, and Square-Enix, Acitivision, and Take 2 have both had a lot of success at higher price points.  X-COM was a big hit, and it was $20.  I don't think IAPs are ever going anywhere, sadly.  I do think they're going to be the ruin of fewer and fewer games, though.

Sounds like wishful thinking, like me believing Wii hardware sales automatically meant the best third party support.

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Because this is the biggest struggle happening right now with the hardcore gaming base.

nope - it's that PLUS that's now an extra curriculum activity for you

come now, at least be honest about it ... you do have a bit of an Andrex wiff about you at the moment.

Plus - your innocence has gone - you're on a payroll that favors a certain platform so... #handinair - there you go. You'd be all over someone doing the same, there is an obvious pattern recently to what you are posting regardless of merit or whether i do or do not agree with you, but i suspect if someone else was posting as you do you'd be ALL OVER THEM - so you must "suffer like G did" i'm afraid , unfounded or not.

Indeed.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: DCharlieJP on October 10, 2013, 11:21:39 AM
I want to clarify - i've met Oscar a few times, and we've been chatting for some time

I have the utmost respect for both him personally and his opinion, infact i pretty much agree with him point-by-point on his take on iOS and where we are industry wise.

I just feel that there has to be some level of acknowledgement regarding his current position in the mobile circle - again, i don't particularly look at what he is saying re: iOS and other parts of the industry and disagree - but i think there is a bit of a -too- strong signal at the moment regarding iOS and it's starting to sound a bit... lecture-like?

I dunno - like i say - i think if someone had posted such a grandiose statement like "Because this is the biggest struggle happening right now with the hardcore gaming base." i would have counted on him being first to man the cannons to shoot that shit down - the biggest struggle the hardcore gaming base (the ACTUAL hardcore), a base that traditionally hasn't given a shit about sales figures ? They don't give a shit about iOS. GAF? Maybe - but they are about as hard about hardcore gaming as a eunucks cock
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: DCharlieJP on October 10, 2013, 11:44:20 AM
Meh.  I'm calling it like I see it.  The floor is disappearing out from under the traditional model and the hardcores are being stubborn about moving.  I've watched this happen before in another hobby and it's aggravating to watch.  But hey, I can take a hint, I won't talk about it anymore.  I'm pretty bad about watching things that irritate me without commenting, though, so I'll have to take a different approach in order to keep that promise.

i think it comes down to your definition of the "hardcore" - way i see it is the real "hardcore" gamers are unaffected - worst case they'd still have XXX years of arcade boards/filthy emu scum stuff ;) , retro etc to play - most haven't even bought into X360/PS3 yet.

Way i see it is that the -dominant- model will be the iOS model in terms of sales figures , but it won't be the only model out there - technology is too diverse compared to other hobbies (again, i've seen sea changes elsewhere but they're a little more scope restricted by the platforms they are delivered on) for it to fall into the same pattern IMO. There's always going to be an angle somewhere.

Please note - that , as i say, it's not like i fully disagree with what you are saying - i think you are calling it like it is. It's not a calling out , it's more just a side note - as i say, there's a handful of people on the web i respect and you are one of them - this is just a perception note thing in terms of how you are coming across. If i was coming across in the same way, i know you'd give me a nudge too.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 10, 2013, 11:50:26 AM
The floor is disappearing out from under the traditional model and the hardcores are being stubborn about moving.  I've watched this happen before in another hobby and it's aggravating to watch

What's the rush, though [well, other than for the companies that will likely collapse into the æther if they don't move quickly enough]? Mobile gaming still isn't quite ready to handle the types of games and the way of playing that hardcore gamers want [big TV/monitor, big bidgets, and controllers], while the consoles are still offering up those experiences with regularity. If and when the big-budget console industry collapses, the hardcore gamers won't suddenly disappear, they'll move to where they can most get the experiences that they want, which will either be through a handheld of some kind, mobile-OS TV boxes, or mobile platforms.

Most people know by now that I like to complain about games I want popping up exclusively on mobile platforms, but I'm not lacking in games on my platform of choice by any measure. So, strictly from a consumer point of view, there's no great reason for me to run out and buy a $300-$400 iOS tablet, at least not yet. And sure, that can change in the next few years, it probably will, but again, we're not there yet.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2013, 11:57:45 AM
GAF? Maybe - but they are about as hard about hardcore gaming as a eunucks cock

Newsfeed.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2013, 12:16:09 PM
Also I don't think there's anyone here worth half a toss that *doesn't* respect Oscar. It's just he's being a bit too... frenzied? With this whole "death of games" thing. I mean, I'm all for taking the piss out of manbabies, and I'm not even particularly opposed to smartphone gaming as it exists today (although it has a ways to go before it can totally supplant normal gaming.) But it does seem Oscar becomes un-Oscar-like on this particular subject (like me and NDAs, but to a far lesser  extent lol.)

I also must reiterate I'm highly skeptical of an Apple controller shell, and even more skeptical that such a thing will have any kind of noticeable impact on the way things are going.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: pancakesandsex on October 10, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
If FF5 had even the tiniest chance of selling as well as those, I'm sure Square would have given a bigger budget for art.  As is, it probably requires more sprite work than any other 2D FF, and has less sales potential than 4 of the other 5.

So they do a shit job of it to lower it even more?  Look, I'm not opposed to smartphone gaming as a concept, I play many of them already, but you better be damn sure that if something I would be conceptually interested in, like "FFV remake for modern devices" or "New Breath of Fire" and it's shat out in in the form of the most cynical cash in, I'm going to complain about it.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 10, 2013, 12:34:39 PM
If FF5 had even the tiniest chance of selling as well as those, I'm sure Square would have given a bigger budget for art.  As is, it probably requires more sprite work than any other 2D FF, and has less sales potential than 4 of the other 5.

So they do a shit job of it to lower it even more?  Look, I'm not opposed to smartphone gaming as a concept, I play many of them already, but you better be damn sure that if something I would be conceptually interested in, like "FFV remake for modern devices" or "New Breath of Fire" and it's shat out in in the form of the most cynical cash in, I'm going to complain about it.

Yep.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
I also worry that lower budgets and cash-ins are and will continue to be the norm for smartphone gaming. I know that trends are for the budgets to get bigger and whatnot (as they always do), but just experientially, every FF game on DS got the full remake treatment with the best graphics and production values for the platform, while iOS is getting stuff like the FFV... thing. I fear that iOS/Android gaming will cause the big pubs to go for lower and lower fruit in a race to the bottom.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 10, 2013, 01:09:57 PM
I have no issues with classic games going on smartphones. Why should I? It's a good thing. DQ8 looks like it's in tip top shape in regards to port quality. But if FFVI looks anywhere remotely like FFV, it will be a sad day. Sad, not because I'm not going to buy it or anything - I don't even care, I own three versions of FFVI - but sad in the sense that S-E clearly doesn't give a shit. But that's okay, because smartphone revolution and lolol gamers I guess.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 10, 2013, 01:16:09 PM
I also actively shit on the very idea on that "it's just business" when we're talking about a company that spent all that money on making FF14, and fixing FF14. But can't be bothered to release a competent remake of its most influential game in the gameplay sense on its 20th anniversary. No expectations should be their new motto. How much would a competent looking version cost? What is the budget for FFIV psp?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on October 10, 2013, 05:11:34 PM
I have no issues with classic games going on smartphones. Why should I? It's a good thing. DQ8 looks like it's in tip top shape in regards to port quality. But if FFVI looks anywhere remotely like FFV, it will be a sad day. Sad, not because I'm not going to buy it or anything - I don't even care, I own three versions of FFVI - but sad in the sense that S-E clearly doesn't give a shit. But that's okay, because smartphone revolution and lolol gamers I guess.

eh but the people that would care about proper graphics are the one who already bought the game a bajillion of time already,so why bother in the first place?

it's pretty clear that this is just "throw shit at wall and see what stick" like when they decided to convert romancing saga and FF1/FF2 to wonderswan
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 10, 2013, 05:15:55 PM
Magus that argument is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

That's like saying, Naked Gun has been seen a bajillion times by people who love Naked Gun so in the latest blu ray release we are going to change the video to displays a filter that makes the movie look like pastel, and change the audio to farts. I mean, it isn't like we're going to get a new generation of fans with this release so why bother?

Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on October 10, 2013, 05:27:05 PM
Magus that argument is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

That's like saying, Naked Gun has been seen a bajillion times by people who love Naked Gun so in the latest blu ray release we are going to change the video to displays a filter that makes the movie look like pastel, and change the audio to farts. I mean, it isn't like we're going to get a new generation of fans with this release so why bother?

but we already got the bluray release of FFV,it was called FFV advance... this is more like the naked gun umd release,sure it has shitty encoding and the screen is small and it's stupid,but people that have a psp and have never watched the naked gun might buy it,because they just want to see a movie on their psp and don't really give a shit about naked gun,i already have the bluray version so why should i be angry?

frankly,stuff like FF legend and the after years where they rip all assets and make something equivalent to a bad romhack bother me way more!
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 10, 2013, 05:30:12 PM
FFV gba was Naked Gun DVD. :maf mobile devices are HD. That's the diff.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Positive Touch on October 10, 2013, 09:12:19 PM
I also actively shit on the very idea on that "it's just business" when we're talking about a company that spent all that money on making FF14, and fixing FF14. But can't be bothered to release a competent remake of its most influential game in the gameplay sense on its 20th anniversary. No expectations should be their new motto. How much would a competent looking version cost? What is the budget for FFIV psp?

ok i need to take up a nerd issue with the "most influential" comment - clearly the most influential was 4 because it introduced the ATB, which has been used in almost every sequel since.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on October 10, 2013, 09:16:43 PM
That only mentions the Final Fantasy series. Almost zero rpgs outside of FF use an ATB variant. I'm talking about outside of FF. DQIII and FFIII were precursors to FFV, but the way FFV did its ability system has been copied over and over, across srpgs, to FF sequels, to games without the FF title in their name. Specifically, it is a heavy influence on FF Tactics' job system, which has been copied a million times.

FFV clearly has inspired a lot of games, whether it's Blue Dragon, FFT, or Disgaea, you can see FFV's influence far and wide.

Other FF games mechanics, outside of maybe X's monster order feature, aren't a genre mainstay like FFV's job system was.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: tiesto on October 11, 2013, 11:48:19 PM
Incoming Tiesto...

I hate mobile gaming, but I don't see them porting FF6 anywhere else, so I'm open to playing it. It's just a turn based rpg anyway, not like touch controls or whatever are going to be that terrible.

Not as pissed at this as I am about DQ. Since the DQ series announcement is basically buttering people up for DQ11 mobile. FF has been mobile for aeons, and has been whored out on every platform under the sun. Not to mention FF6 isn't my holy grail in the series like it is everyone else's, and my favorite (5) already got its shitty ugly mobile port. SE still sucks though and I'm sure they'll fuck this one up too.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: demi on January 15, 2014, 01:00:45 PM
Android version

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.android_googleplay.FFVI&hl=en
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2014, 03:27:12 PM
Looks like poop alright.

Give it an OG graphics option and I might bite... at $5.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2014, 03:30:30 PM
I also must reiterate I'm highly skeptical of an Apple controller shell, and even more skeptical that such a thing will have any kind of noticeable impact on the way things are going.

(http://i.imgur.com/LepCQAd.png)

wow who could have possibly quessed
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 15, 2014, 03:32:36 PM
what the fuck is quessed
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2014, 03:53:49 PM
I'm not gonna answer that guestion. :yeshrug
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 15, 2014, 06:19:46 PM
4.2 out of 5, not bad
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2014, 06:41:11 PM
4.2 out of 5, not bad

:lol
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2014, 06:57:16 PM
The fact that gamers are more offended by the graphical changes and not the gameplay changes and other downgrades is pretty fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on January 15, 2014, 07:01:01 PM
The fact that gamers are more offended by the graphical changes and not the gameplay changes and other downgrades is pretty fucking hilarious.

there are gameplay changes?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Bebpo on January 15, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
The fact that gamers are more offended by the graphical changes and not the gameplay changes and other downgrades is pretty fucking hilarious.

I think most people are just looking at the pictures and going  :-X and walking away.

Why would you spend time getting to know the port when it looks like that?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2014, 07:04:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JIg8kBz.png)
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
I was curious how you enter blitz attacks.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 15, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: originalz on January 15, 2014, 07:29:02 PM
It looks like an RPG maker game!  Those battle scenes especially.

Who cares, I'm still gonna buy it.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on January 15, 2014, 07:29:07 PM
the only info about gameplay change i could find mentioned something about level... if your whole party level ups instead of just the character you are playing that's a good thing as it makes the final dungeon less of a chore no?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Yeti on January 16, 2014, 03:06:29 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19cnt4wup7dpepng/ku-xlarge.png)
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19cnt4wuse4y1jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
LOL
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 03:24:45 AM
Espier? lol

That world map shot lol

here's ffvi snes

(http://figarocastle.homemade-websites.com/ff6/images/walkthrough/16a.jpg)
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: magus on January 16, 2014, 07:18:32 AM
Espier? lol

That world map shot lol

here's ffvi snes

(http://figarocastle.homemade-websites.com/ff6/images/walkthrough/16a.jpg)

espier is just a mispell error...

...but i wonder how they got a mispell error there in the first place,don't they just rip the old script and use it for the android port?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: archnemesis on January 16, 2014, 07:28:33 AM
RPG Maker might not be compatible with the format of the old script. They probably put an intern on retyping everything.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 16, 2014, 08:53:26 AM
Do you see this, Oscar? DO YOU SEE THIS?! THIS is what the people who complain about mobile games are talking about!!!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
But this is honestly embarrassing even for a mobile game. I've seen cheap Google Play games from no-name developers that looked far better than this mess and were one-tenth of the cost. Uh...yeah...no thanks, Square. I'll just use my Android tablet to play an emulated version of the original. Or the PS1 port. Or the GBA port. Or any other version since they all look better than that.
[close]
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 16, 2014, 09:41:55 AM
I might buy this if it were $1, but $16? :rofl

Today on mobile, an awesome original action RPG came out, as well as a great port of one of the all-time classic PC RPGs

Which two games would those be?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Diunx on January 16, 2014, 11:08:50 AM
One of the few times I've seen Oscar-kun catching feels. He must be in deep with this whole "phone gaming is the future" thing.

It's weird because all the mobile games I have tried so far are shit.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 01:50:33 PM
BG2:EE on mobile :o
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 03:31:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeIKax3CIAIf3a9.jpg:large)
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: demi on January 16, 2014, 03:32:14 PM
I consider more content to be the superior version, myself.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: The Sceneman on January 16, 2014, 03:33:52 PM
I've been meaning to play FFVI for a long time (never played it before). A shame this version looks like total ass. Eh, I might buy it anyway :tocry

And wtf, Square needed to use Kickstarter for this shit, then charge a huge premium for their mobile software? Screw them
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: demi on January 16, 2014, 03:38:36 PM
Yes, they used Kickstarter to fund this game. Thieves.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 03:59:13 PM
I've been meaning to play FFVI for a long time (never played it before). A shame this version looks like total ass. Eh, I might buy it anyway :tocry

And wtf, Square needed to use Kickstarter for this shit, then charge a huge premium for their mobile software? Screw them

Just buy it from psn.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: The Sceneman on January 16, 2014, 04:09:42 PM
I don't have a PS3/Vita. Is there a PSP rom of the PS1 port?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: demi on January 16, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
You can play PS1/PSN games on PSP just the same as PS3 and Vita.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: The Sceneman on January 16, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
Oh true that, havent turned on my PSP in years. Might grab some PS1 stuff soon. Is Tombi/Tomba on PSN?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 16, 2014, 05:22:18 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeIKax3CIAIf3a9.jpg:large)

I MADE THIS you're welcome
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 05:26:26 PM
That was your Twitter? :omg #followed
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 06:20:17 PM
Jesus you're slow Andy.

And psx version isn't that bad. It isn't unplayable like CT psx.

And I'd rather play gba FFVI over snes. Gba FFVI  has a better translation and graphics. The only thing snes version has over gba is music and there's a way to put snes music on gba version, thus making it superior, especially when modded.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 06:42:12 PM
True, true. I'd say emulating gba or snes version would do a fine job.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 16, 2014, 06:44:44 PM
:neogaf paying for 20 year old games again

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x38/okinawa1ryangreek/jolly-roger.png)
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 06:45:39 PM
Quote
Jesus you're slow Andy.

It's not like peeps here just give out their twitters. I also don't know most people's IRL names. Didn't know who Oscar was when he followed me, had to ask. :lol
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: tiesto on January 16, 2014, 09:30:38 PM
So this turned out really bad? You don't say? :smug
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: tiesto on January 16, 2014, 09:47:30 PM
So this turned out really bad? You don't say? :smug

How are you liking Across Age 2?

Haven't played it yet but it at least looks better than this.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: The Sceneman on January 16, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
us gamers, huh?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: The Sceneman on January 16, 2014, 10:58:32 PM
Yeah, the start of the new gen was probably the gnarliest of all time in terms of scandal and outrage etc.

When 360 and PS3 launched we didn't have social media connected to EVERYTHING, journos tweeting from trade shows and press conferences, trying to out hyperbole each other. Every damn crappy rumour has started a Twitter shitstorm and the worst knee jerk reactions.

I think its become endemic to all news media on the internet, not just gaming. Every scandal and story needs to be bigger and more explosive than the last, to get peoples attention. Truly a symptom of the Information Age.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Raban on January 17, 2014, 12:38:14 PM
Luckily it's completely up to you to engage with the leper colony that is the internet's "gaming community", hopefully more of y'all elect to steer clear in the future.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 01:26:25 PM
What I don't get is why people are still going on about this. This shit was revealed in bloody Octoboer. I decided right then and there I wasn't going to buy it, and forgot it existed. Why the further outrage? Who cares?
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Raban on January 17, 2014, 01:29:41 PM
It's like Sceneman said, every single event has to be a fucking catastrophe for gamers. They threw a fit for the announcement, and now they're throwing one for the release. Impotent rage is their anti-drug.
Title: Re: SquareEnix Kickstarter Funded - FF6 on iOS/Android
Post by: Raban on January 17, 2014, 05:36:08 PM
:lol