THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: magus on October 10, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
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sega fans not allowed in the treehouse
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PS2 but guess I'll have to go with psx.
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Early 3D is hideous, so SNES.
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PS2
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Psx
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There is no way it isn't SNES.
Early 3D. :kobeyuck
Perfected 2D. :aah
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Mario World, Link to the Past, Yoshi's Island, Mega Man X, Star Fox, DKC2, Super GameBoy, Kirby SuperStar, Earthbound, Super Metroid, Mario RPG, Chrono Trigger, Castlevania 4, Super Punch Out, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Final Fantasy 4.
I'm out. :yeshrug
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I think that if you want to do a proper analysis you can't just look at the ecosystem of the console but the ecosystem of the planet. Taking this into consideration the fact that the Wii U uses less power relative to other consoles of its generation is a huge factor. That means you can get away without needing coal, oil, gas, nuclear, etc. So when you wrap up all of the variables the Wii U actually provides more gaming bang per green energy watt especially as more and more landmark titles come out built specifically for the efficiency of the system.
And most importantly the Wii U does so in a much more fair and sustainable way than any other console in history.
Posted from my iPhone.
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playstation 2
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Xbox 360
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Early 3d was a more exciting time to be a gamer than 16 bit era but that's my opinion. :yeshrug
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Anyone saying psx is obviously a FFVII tard and should be shunned by everyone forever.
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PSX because everyone went fuckin nutsballs making weird shit
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PC
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SNES is legendary, don't get me wrong... but PSX takes this one. Damn near every game we play these days is still iterating on ideas from games on this system. Sony's swagger was absolutely delicious.
(http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/905_psone.jpg)
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PSX because everyone went fuckin nutsballs making weird shit
:bow SNES is legendary, don't get me wrong... but PSX takes this one. Damn near every game we play these days is still iterating on ideas from games on this system. Sony's swagger was absolutely delicious.
(http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/905_psone.jpg)
:bow
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Xbox One Is The All In One I Always Wanted
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PS2>PSX>SNES though.
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If you liked sports games and had friends, the answer is pretty clear.
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early 3d was ick, especially on the psx
Tiny rooms, faux 3d with 2d gameplay =/ (Shit, the SNES even did that better.)
Gran Turismo was awesome doe and some of the PSX 2d stuff.
I honestly felt the PS2 was way better than the PSX.
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at least it sounds great :drool
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360 > PS2 > *
But between the SNES and PS1, the SNES was better.
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Xbox 360 is the best console ever. Followed by PS2 and PS1
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Ah yes, the xbox 360, the system where pretty much all of its best exclusives were in its first two years and then poof. What a great system!
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:badass
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These dudes are like "shit man its so awful, whats the big deal of xbox 360?"
niccas BURNT and SCURRED - be afraid
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Ah yes, the xbox 360, the system where pretty much all of its best exclusives were in its first two years and then poof. What a great system!
if i knew someone had to suggest the 360 i would have allowed sega in the cool kids club :fbm
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The best system ever is the one that had the games on all the other systems too!
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nes:2d::ps1:3d
both were revolutionary but crude as fuck with ideas that wouldnt be refined and perfected til the next generation. ps1 felt like 5 years of edging til i could finally bust my nut on some quality (i.e. fast loading, non-sluggish gameplay, good graphics, skippable cutscenes, better use of tacked-on rpg bullshit) 3d gaming.
snes is the clear winner with 2d masterpieces that were unrivaled until recently.
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PSX had some really great JRPGs and that's about it. Sorry to burst your bubble, Sony-tards.
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PSX had some really great JRPGs and that's about it. Sorry to burst your bubble, Sony-tards.
It birthed a LOT of great franchises. That simply can't be denied. But god damn is it hard to go back to some of that stuff...
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PSX had some really great JRPGs and that's about it. Sorry to burst your bubble, Sony-tards.
It has many classics, many of which are playable today. If you don't think Ridge Racer 4 is playable in 2013, it may be just you.
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PSX had some really great JRPGs and that's about it. Sorry to burst your bubble, Sony-tards.
It has many classics, many of which are playable today. If you don't think Ridge Racer 4 is playable in 2013, it may be just you.
lest not forget namco screwing everybody by removing all the things animu from ace combat 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjY1qrVKTyU
PSX had some really great JRPGs and that's about it. Sorry to burst your bubble, Sony-tards.
know what i really liked on psx? the first armored core,man it was awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv-V13BqwOM
i could never finish it,on the last stage you get pitted against a super annoying ai called nine balls and you have to defeat it multiple times and it always murderized the shit out of me
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Ah yes, the xbox 360, the system where pretty much all of its best exclusives were in its first two years and then poof. What a great system!
But the 360's best exclusives came out in 2008-2011 ??? (plus one in 2013)
I'm not sure why exclusives matter, anyway. Do games stop existing when they're available on more than one platform?
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No, but it means there's less reason to own one console above or in addition to another.
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Ah yes, the xbox 360, the system where pretty much all of its best exclusives were in its first two years and then poof. What a great system!
But the 360's best exclusives came out in 2008-2011 ??? (plus one in 2013)
I'm not sure why exclusives matter, anyway. Do games stop existing when they're available on more than one platform?
Truer words have never been spoken.
Anyone who thinks that a Super Nintendo is better than a 360 has a small penis
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Ah yes, the xbox 360, the system where pretty much all of its best exclusives were in its first two years and then poof. What a great system!
But the 360's best exclusives came out in 2008-2011 ??? (plus one in 2013)
I'm not sure why exclusives matter, anyway. Do games stop existing when they're available on more than one platform?
Exclusives matter because they make the system unique in its software. And software is what makes a system.
I can go along with xbox 360 being the best console ever, ONLY if they're talking about xbla, which was an amazing service this generation. It's like, if MGS2, FFX, ico, Klonoa 2, Devil May Cry, Crimson Tears, and all of those amazing games that came out for that system in 2001 were released on xbox and gamecube at the same time and someone saying ps2 is the best system ever. It makes no sense to me. By virtue of the fact its biggest standout games are on other systems, makes it automatically NOT the best system. But ps2 goes deeper and deeper, you've got something for EVERYONE on that system, with games you can ONLY get on the playstation 2. Xbox 360 does not have something for everyone, by a long shot. I can understand the position if you have specific tastes - and you certainly do - but that's it.
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Ah yes, the xbox 360, the system where pretty much all of its best exclusives were in its first two years and then poof. What a great system!
But the 360's best exclusives came out in 2008-2011 ??? (plus one in 2013)
I'm not sure why exclusives matter, anyway. Do games stop existing when they're available on more than one platform?
Truer words have never been spoken.
Anyone who thinks that a Super Nintendo is better than a 360 has a small penis
:goty
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Xbox 360 has something for everyone if you have a limited game palette, sure. And I don't mean that as an insult. I know with Oscar for instance, he most likely doesn't find much appeal in 360 at all going by our private talks and his own opinion on modern games.
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SHUT UP ABOUT NEW SYSTEMS WE'RE HAVING A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION ABOUT SUPER NINTENDO VERSUS PLAYSTATION 1 AND YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING IT UP
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playstation 2 trounces all. it literally had something for every person. you don't sell one hundred and twenty million units without being fucking amazing
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SNES definitely, though PS1 is a close second. I just scored a copy of Demon's Crest which I haven't played before and I'm pretty pumped to try...
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SHUT UP ABOUT NEW SYSTEMS WE'RE HAVING A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION ABOUT SUPER NINTENDO VERSUS PLAYSTATION 1 AND YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING IT UP
YOU PEOPLE CANNOT HANDLE THIS POST
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SNES has better games but PS1 (and its contemporaries) is more interesting, if that makes sense.
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PSX had some really great JRPGs and that's about it. Sorry to burst your bubble, Sony-tards.
gran turismo, resident evil, and metal gear solid are my favourite jrpgs
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now imagine i make a counterpost where i post super mario, actraiser, street fighter 2, yoshis island, mario kart, super metroid, demons crest, final fight, pocky&rocky, final fantasy 4-6, super ghouls & ghosts, soul blazer trilogy, earthbound, contra 3, link to the past, chrono trigger, demons crest, gradius 3, castlevania 4, ogre battle, mega man x & x2, lufia 1&2, clock tower, mystical ninja, starfox, secret of mana, zombies ate my neighbors, turtles in time, etc
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now imagine i make a counterpost where i post super mario, actraiser, street fighter 2, yoshis island, mario kart, super metroid, demons crest, final fight, pocky&rocky, final fantasy 4-6, super ghouls & ghosts, soul blazer trilogy, earthbound, contra 3, link to the past, chrono trigger, demons crest, gradius 3, castlevania 4, ogre battle, mega man x & x2, lufia 1&2, clock tower, mystical ninja, starfox, secret of mana, zombies ate my neighbors, turtles in time, etc
I'm not seeing that much of an improvement. Playstation easily had the better 2d shooters, for instance. Gradius Gaiden, Raystorm and its sequel, G-Darius, Einhander, R-Type Delta.
Playstation had better fighters: Marvel vs Capcom, Rival Schools, X-Men vs Street Fighter, Tekken 2, Street Fighter Alpha's, Soul Blade, Tobal;etc.
Mega Man X4 > Mega Man X1 and X2, not to mention Mega Man Legends 1 and 2, and Tron Bonne.
Playstation had better racing games: Wipeout XL, Ridge Racer series, Jet Moto, Sled Storm, Crash Team Racing.
The only genres where this is even debatable are platformers and rpgs, and playstation saw more experimental and flat out ballsy games of the latter that had more scope and vision, and for the former it was no slouch either.
Add in genres that weren't even possible on the snes, and you've got it in the bag. Games like Intelligent Qube, Devil Dice, Mr. Domino, Bushido Blade, Ore no Ryouri, Ape Escape, Omega Boost, Ghost in the Shell.
The snes, for the most part, reiterated games and genres already on the nes. The playstation made entire new genres (Parappa the Rapper, Armored Core, Ore no Ryouri) and when it didn't do that, it brought a new way to play old ones due to new technology.
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now imagine i make a counterpost where i post super mario, actraiser, street fighter 2, yoshis island, mario kart, super metroid, demons crest, final fight, pocky&rocky, final fantasy 4-6, super ghouls & ghosts, soul blazer trilogy, earthbound, contra 3, link to the past, chrono trigger, demons crest, gradius 3, castlevania 4, ogre battle, mega man x & x2, lufia 1&2, clock tower, mystical ninja, starfox, secret of mana, zombies ate my neighbors, turtles in time, etc
Or I could post this and ask a mod to close this thread
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt2K45vwTM4
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:bow :bow :bow
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Fuck Himu for almost crashing my browser.
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Chrome OS? :shaq2
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Mega Man X4 > Mega Man X1 and X2, not to mention Mega Man Legends 1 and 2, and Tron Bonne.
:hitler
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Mega Man X4 > Mega Man X1 and X2
:what
X1 is literally a perfect game.
Chrome OS? :shaq2
Windblows. :fbm My Pixel could handle that no problem.
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x4 is forreal the best x game easily
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Andrex hasn't played x4, dude. Let it go.
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I haven't played 4. Why is it so good? (Honest question.) Saying a game is better than X1 is a tall billing for me.
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Mega man x4 allows you to play as Zero and X with their own game play styles. Zero uses Street Fighter commands to do abilities, namely Ken and Ryu's moveset, X is traditional MM. MMX4 is great because of this dynamic as well as the level design and boss fights. The end result is that because the two play so differently, it feels like two different games with completely different approaches in playstyle. The way you play with X is totally different from how you play with Zero.
The boss fights are also utterly amazing. It is when Mega Man boss fights started to get elaborate in their patterns, this expanded into what would be seen in the Zero series for example.
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Hmm I liked Zero in X3 but hated the stupid limitations on using him. I take it that was gone in X4.
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X3 sucks.
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Didn't X4 have those really bad cutscenes though? :anhuld
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http://youtu.be/2giPYVvyXnw
Bad?
You mean hilarious.
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Spoilers dude. :goty
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WHAT AM I FIGHTING FORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
:goty2
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I watched that whole vid. Where was that cutscene?
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The PS2
Perfected 2D. :aah
The arcade did that.
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PS2.
Yoshi's Island sucks
No, but it means there's less reason to own one console above or in addition to another.
Not when we're comparing it to SNES or PSX
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I watched that whole vid. Where was that cutscene?
I wasn't posting the cut scene. I posted the boss fight to slap andrex and beezy's face.
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X4 :rejoice
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Can we at least agree that the N64 was the most overrated console of all time?
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Honestly I enjoyed the N64 a whole lot more than the Wii. The Wii takes the spot for most overrated imo.
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If Nintendo would have kept their software output at the same level as the first 18 months of the Wii, it would have been glorious. Unfortunately, they did not.
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Just be told, I would probably say that the Xbox 360 is my most played console of all time. I'm sure having really good Virtua fighter and Daytona USA ports helped a lot with that
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Not when we're comparing it to SNES or PSX
Well, obviously, because most games that are available on one are not available on the other.
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N64 is the most overrated. When people post their list of favourite games on platform xyz there's usually some variation in what's listed. With N64 the lists are almost always the same for a reason.
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Just be told, I would probably say that the Xbox 360 is my most played console of all time. I'm sure having really good Virtua fighter and Daytona USA ports helped a lot with that
Well this was also the longest generation.
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So peak Ninty(it was, shut up) or everyone putting out cool weird experimental shit? I'm not sure if I can answer that question. :mindblown
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The poll has spoken. :miyamoto
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SNES and PS1 are on even ground to me. They're both in the same emulator folder on my PC. :P
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Sorry PS2 fans, the dual shock has and always will be a shitty controller.
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the PS3's is even worse!
honestly, people were fine* with it until the 360's replaced it as the standard. and at the time the alternatives were the n64 and dreamcast controllers. later the original xbox controller got stigma for being too large, and the gamecube for being too small (both are comfortable, imo). crazy to think the dual shock 4 is the first significant change since 97 or 98. almost every impression of the dual shock 4 is roughly "so I hated that fucking awful piece of shit ps3 controller, but this is pretty good."
*there was a time when people wanted the old design back after seeing the batarang controller :leon
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rudimentary polygon graphix are beautiful. Just you wait until they become fashionably indie-retro! It's gonna be glorious.
:rejoice
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Uh, N64 games looked like shit from day one. :P
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Can we at least agree that the N64 was the most overrated console of all time?
Yeah, that or OG Xbox.
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N64 is the most overrated. When people post their list of favourite games on platform xyz there's usually some variation in what's listed. With N64 the lists are almost always the same for a reason.
At least I can still play the N64 classics no problem. Go back to non-JRPG PSX games and feel the scust :smug
Even as a kid N64 games hurt my eyes with their uglyness. Granted, so did PS1 games but I can still play Klonoa and Crash Bandicoot with no problems.
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Ah yes, the xbox 360, the system where pretty much all of its best exclusives were in its first two years and then poof. What a great system!
Ah, as opposed to the system which Sony has been playing catch-up with all generation, and still hasn't caught up. PS3 has no Party system, cross-game chat, system-wide music player, background downloads, guaranteed demos for all digital downloads, Indie Games (if you can find them, I mean), and software download speeds which don't give me enough time to go make a sandwich AND walk around the block to eat it and work off the rage.
Still, I must admit that I enjoy my PS3! It's my home's only Blu-Ray player, and the DVR function of Torne is serviceable. Sometimes it's even fun to play a game without worrying about Achievements or my GamerScore completion percentage! Trophies are so ineffectual and cute!
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bububu naughty gods
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tbh XBL is kinda garbage. party chat/download speed = nice. everything else is bad.
i have a 360 and a ps3 but this gen im going ps4wiiu. xbone = NSA irl rootkit next gen ads weak hw and four hundred and ninety nine us dollars four hundred and ninety nine us dollars
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if we're talkin best system, i'm backing gamecube. my nicca.
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if we're talkin best system, i'm backing gamecube. my nicca.
the gc had the best Naruto games ever so it is cool in my book
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if we're talkin best system, i'm backing gamecube. my nicca.
the gc had the best Naruto games ever so it is cool in my book
Ah yes, the Megaton.
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I loved my GCN so much that I used that abbreviation, but seriously 360 was the apex of console gaming.
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The lack of a PS2 option is further proof that magoose is, you know, magoose.
The amount of people in here trying to answer anything other than the PS2 just goes to show that you're all terrible human beings.
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PS2 is best for single player gaming but if we're being real it wasn't great if you were into online games. You could argue for SOCOM, or uh, resident evil outbreak, whatever. Xbox was better. Xbox 360 and PS3 are way better.
Really, if you were into multiplayer games, early 2000s PC multiplayer was choice. Still, at the time Xbox had some killer multiplayer games.
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Playing with other people :goty2
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Ah yes, the xbox 360, the system where pretty much all of its best exclusives were in its first two years and then poof. What a great system!
Ah, as opposed to the system which Sony has been playing catch-up with all generation, and still hasn't caught up. PS3 has no Party system, cross-game chat, system-wide music player, background downloads, guaranteed demos for all digital downloads, Indie Games (if you can find them, I mean), and software download speeds which don't give me enough time to go make a sandwich AND walk around the block to eat it and work off the rage.
Still, I must admit that I enjoy my PS3! It's my home's only Blu-Ray player, and the DVR function of Torne is serviceable. Sometimes it's even fun to play a game without worrying about Achievements or my GamerScore completion percentage! Trophies are so ineffectual and cute!
Notice how I did not mention the playstation 3 in my post. ;) We are talking about what you think is the best system. I consider software the main component of what constitutes best system. For me, that's the ps2 if we are talking consoles. Playstation 3, and best system, in the same sentence is laughable. However, I feel the same way about the 360 for the reasons I gave. What drives 360 software as being the best system to offer in terms of library? Gears? Forza? Exclusives are a big thing for me when I consider a systems quality and it's that reason I prefer the original Xbox over the 360.
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Ah, I see. Yes, I agree.
I'm a fan of PS1 and PS2 for sure; and neither of mine died, which I cannot say about my 360. :-\
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The only console I ever had die on me was my first PS2, which was not a launch unit, but still ended up with DRE within a year of purchase.
...and I still think the PS2 is the best console ever, hands down, no debate.
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I'd give the PS2 the edge if I were more into rhythm, racing, and tbs games, but since I prefer action, shooting, fighting, and arcade ports in general, the 360 can't be beat. The PS2 does get some bonus points for having the two best wrestling games ever tho.
I still think it's silly to ignore everything but exclusives when comparing different generations of consoles. They should be judged by their entire library (though you can/should ignore lazy rom dumps, like compilation discs of games that have been ported 50000 times, the Wii VC, some PSN/XBLA games, and arguably HD remasters).
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Xbla is fantastic. But I don't think it's that good enough to make 360 jump out to "best system ever", but then, the subject of "best system" is subjective. PSX is my favorite system, though I feel ps2 is better. I can see why 360 would be someones favorite, after going on 8 years of playing on the thing. That's a long ass time.
You are also right, 360 does have more in the way of say, fighters. Fighters were entirely revived this gen. But most of those action, fighting, and shooting games are available on other platforms, namely the playstation 3. There are exceptions, mostly xbla titles like MotW, Rez HD, Ikaruga HD;etc only available on xbla. But they're still ports. You said to ignore psn/xbla games, and imo, those are the only major qualifiers for BOTH systems. I found both dd services had more games that appealed to my tastes than anything on the mainstream market - for the most part. Yet, the dd titles are the ones that were mostly exclusive. That mostly leaves retail titles. Maybe I'm ignorant on 360 library, but pretty much every major fighter is on ps3, and the major action games of this gen (Bayo, DMC4, NG2, Vanquish) are all available on the ps3 though some of those versions are not optimal they're still available. Shooters, I'll grant you. 360 mopped ps3 up with 2d shooters.
For reference, my favorite dd games this gen are Outrun 2 HD, Mega Man 9, and Hard Corps Uprising. All of which are also on ps3. Though, I owned them on the 360 and not on ps3. To me, it's like saying ps2 is such a great system because it has Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, Beyond Good and Evil, and SSX3. All of those games are on the other consoles, and none of those games go into why ps2 was such a great system: exclusives. You played the ps2 because it had all this shit you couldn't find on gc and xbox. You play your 360 and neglect your ps3 because, for the most part, both systems have an almost 1:1 ratio of game library. Practically all of the major games this generation have multiplatform. What's the point of playing a ps3 when you've got an Xbox 360? Exclusives. It will always be down to exclusives, and exclusives aren't that important these days and are becoming more and more rare.
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I didn't mean to ignore PSN/XBLA entirely, just the lazy re-releases of old games that didn't bring anything new to the table (like PS1 classics or emulated Sega Genesis games). And I agree that you should ignore multiplatform games if you're comparing consoles from the same generation, like Xbox to the PS2 or PS3 to the 360. But if you want to compare the PS2 to the 360, there isn't much overlap in their libraries, so you're better off taking everything into account (ie. you can't play SF4 on the PS2 and you can't play Sands of Time on the 360).
The PS2 has a ton of exclusives and a more robust library overall, so I have no problem with people saying it's the best console ever. For me personally, though, the niche arcade ports exclusive to the 360 push it over the edge (along with all of the other great games on the console, exclusive or not).
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PS2 sucked ass.
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:goty
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Oh, hey, look. Powerslave is still alive. That's a bummer.