“It seems like, to me, a vagina – as a man – would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me,” Robertson stated. “I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”:ohhh
Robertson described in the interview how sin is becoming acceptable in America and that the country needs to turn back to its Christian values.
“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” Robertson told GQ. “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”
The patriarch of the Robertson family said just putting one’s faith in Jesus will help problems be solved.
““If you simply put your faith in Jesus coming down in flesh, through a human being, God becoming flesh living on the earth, dying on the cross for the sins of the world, being buried, and being raised from the dead—yours and mine and everybody else’s problems will be solved. And the next time we see you, we will say: ‘You are now a brother. Our brother.’ So then we look at you totally different then,” Robertson said.
Despite his beliefs, the 67-year-old says he doesn’t judge others.
“We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job,” Robertson told GQ. “We just love ‘em, give ‘em the good news about Jesus – whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ‘em out later.”
We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job,” Robertson told GQ. “We just love ‘em, give ‘em the good news about Jesus – whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ‘em out later
Obviously, he's never tried a woman's anus.Then again:
“I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying?
Everyone I've met that likes this show seems likes they'd be in agreement with this so I don't see the controversy.
“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field.... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”
“If I'm lost at three o'clock in a major metropolitan area...I ask myself: Where would I rather be trying to walk with my wife and children? One of the guys who's running for president is out of Chicago, Illinois, and the other one is from Salt Lake City, Utah. [Editor's note: Romney is from Boston, not Salt Lake City.] Where would I rather be turned around at three o'clock in the morning? I opted for Salt Lake City. I think it would be safer.”
“For the sake of the Gospel, it was worth it,” Phil tells me. “All you have to do is look at any society where there is no Jesus. I’ll give you four: Nazis, no Jesus. Look at their record. Uh, Shintos? They started this thing in Pearl Harbor. Any Jesus among them? None. Communists? None. Islamists? Zero. That’s eighty years of ideologies that have popped up where no Jesus was allowed among those four groups. Just look at the records as far as murder goes among those four groups.”
Never heard of anything called "Duck Dynasty".
Google it. Look at cover with show stars on it. Well they look like people who would say things like this.
Go back to my life.
How is this up for debate in 2013? Even just comparing the smell of the two, the man's anus wins.And that's not even getting into the taste issue. Girl ass :yuck
I haven't been to a bookstore in years. You have heard of Amazon.com, right?
"Locating your tweet"? What an odd thing to say.
Some of my more conservative friends are using him as their profile pic. Hailing him as some sort of icon.
All I say is if you're looking for heroes in a show about stupid rednecks called Duck Dynasty, then you've lost it.
Some of my more conservative friends are using him as their profile pic. Hailing him as some sort of icon.
All I say is if you're looking for heroes in a show about stupid rednecks called Duck Dynasty, then you've lost it.
Some of my more conservative friends are using him as their profile pic. Hailing him as some sort of icon.
All I say is if you're looking for heroes in a show about stupid rednecks called Duck Dynasty, then you've lost it.
“Phil Robertson and his family are great citizens of the State of Louisiana. The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with. I don’t agree with quite a bit of stuff I read in magazine interviews or see on TV. In fact, come to think of it, I find a good bit of it offensive. But I also acknowledge that this is a free country and everyone is entitled to express their views. In fact, I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended," said Jindal in a prepared statement.:lol
The page exploded when it was launched Wednesday, breaking over 200,000 likes in less than six hours. The administrator was even banned from Facebook for 12 hours because the page was generating 4,500 likes in one hour.FACEBOOK WAR ON FREE SPEECH
“The administrator of this page was banned for next 12 hours because this page generated 4.5K likes in ‘1 hour.’ People you are getting the word out! Continue to spread that we will boycott A&E until Phil Robertson is put back Duck Dynasty,” the page states.
Honestly, if you have a choice between two warm tunnels, only one of them regularly serves as a conveyor belt for feces and the other doesn't, it's a no-brainer IMO.Well that analogy certainly doesn't make any sense :what
It's like would you rather play on a playground, or on a set of train tracks?
They will milk the controversy for awhile, the beard guy will apologize, Duck Dynasty will be more popular than ever.
It's like would you rather play on a playground, or on a set of train tracks?Live Más!
there's fucking merchandise for this show goddamn everywhere. I go to the grocery store and can't escape the duck dynasty.
They got this shit at Kroger. Everywhere I go I'm cock slapped by three ugly men with long beards and Charles Manson eyes. Go to an Academy, Rumbler. I DARE YOU. SEE WHAT YOU FIND.
It basically did. The season premieres went from 1.81 million (March 2012) to 3.70 million (October 2012) to 8.65 million (February 2013) to 11.77 million (August 2013).
"Right to free speech" regarding employment on a TV show owned by a private corporation? What an odd thing to say.
Aren’t we as Americans FREE and have FREEDOM of SPEECH? The LGBT community has been pushing their lifestyle and sexuality on others for years now. Straight men and women are allowed to agree, disagree and say why or what we believe in regards to this. LGBT has made gay rights and gay marriage and gay in general the forefront of almost every topic for years now. If they want to be bigots and do not want to hear what the other side has to say or want to hear their beliefs then they need to stop talking about and trying to make everything about being gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender!! I mean are you looking for acceptance and someone to tell you it is ok because you think on some level yourself it is wrong?? If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen!!!!
Comment by Becky — Thursday December 19, 2013 @ 12:55pm PST
The biased media keeps saying what he said was anti-gay, but it was nothing of the sort. It was pro-straight. That’s how far down the drain we’ve gone. It’s ok to have gay pride, but if you are “proud” or encourage being straight, the lib/left bullies attack.
People need to take a stand because tolerance works both ways.
Comment by Ron S — Thursday December 19, 2013 @ 12:28pm PST
If GQ or A&E did want honest answers on a subject the subject should not be brought up. Phil should have been advised before the interview of the possible backlash from A&E from giving honest answers. We try to teach or children to be honest and it’s okay to have a difference of opinion which is so great about this country, but for some reason this country does not believe in freedom of speech anymore.
Comment by Anonymous — Thursday December 19, 2013 @ 11:46am PST
I won’t being tuning in either! Miley can act like a tramp the KK’s can bare all the LL’s can do drugs and get drunk the foul mouthed actors all over Hollywood and the writer that wrote “the article” was down right nasty mouthed and one sided on his opinions of southern people Mr. Robertson has every right to feel the way he does the same as you or I. The freedom of speech gives him that right so if all you folks that don’t like our laws move to a country that has no freedoms the gripe about Mr. Robertson.
Comment by karen — Thursday December 19, 2013 @ 11:48am PST
Any one, other than a “white” person, can say what they want against anyone they want and not one says anything about “that” because they don’t want to be accused of being called a racist. Phil has his opinion and he is entitled to it – just like everyone else is. It’s okay for Muslims to say “death to the infidels” – and no one opens their mouth. Hopefully A&E looses MILLIONS of dollars by taking Phil off the air. They obviously don’t have a clue how thrilled parents are that their kids love Duck Dynasty because they are a good, decent family and how much money parents are spending buying Duck Dynasty gear instead of videos from Rappers. I have a right to my opinion also and I along with millions agree with the Robertson family.
Comment by Lorraine — Thursday December 19, 2013 @ 11:39am PST
Even though I am not a fan of the show I feel that A&E crossed a legal line by their actions. He made comments in an interview that he holds dear to his heart these views were not stated on the A&E show and therefore has nothing to do with A&E. It is time for America to stand up to all the destruction of our rights and stop letting the gays and non God believers decide what is right and wrong.
Comment by Rodney Pack — Thursday December 19, 2013 @ 11:41am PST
The Phil Robinson suspension tells us that A&E want to take away our right to our freedom of religion and speech. Why ask someone a question like that if it wasn’t with the intent to act exactly as you have. Ask someone a question and if you don’t like the answer demonize them. Never watched A&E till Duck Dynasty so it won’t be a burden to cross you off my viewing list.
Comment by linda — Thursday December 19, 2013 @ 12:44pm PST
You are incorrect. It certainly raises a Constitutional question. There is this little pesky clause found within the 4 corners of the Constitution called the "Commerce Clause". This clause – the most far-reaching and powerful of any clause therein – prevents a private business engaged in inter-state commerce (such as A&E) from discriminating against individuals based on several criteria (e.g. race, sex, … and religion). Here, A&E may be exposing itself to a mega lawsuit and not just from Robertson.MEGA LAWSUIT!
Comment by Contitution101 — Thursday December 19, 2013 @ 12:26pm PST
Ultimately There Will Be No Option for Silence or the Sidelines. You Will Be Made To Care.(http://i.imgur.com/p0WockU.gif)
By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | December 18th, 2013 at 08:46 PM | 139
I have told you people again and again. You will be made to care.
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant and then it seeks to silence good. Phil Robertson, patriarch of the Duck Dynasty clan, honestly answered questions during an GQ interview. He spoke openly of his Christian faith. Because he offended a secular left at war with orthodox Christianity, he must be punished.
A&E and Phil Robertson both chose to put their respective faiths ahead of profits.
What we should not shy away from is that Phil Robertson articulated very Biblical doctrine. He referenced scripture. Homosexual acts are, in fact, sinful according to the Bible. And as society begins to openly tolerate as normal things that really are not normal behaviors, society tends to start loosening up across the board as it descends down a slippery slope.
But Robertson also admonished Christians to love. He said Christians are not to judge, but to love. As Rick Warren has said,
Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.
The secular left believes otherwise. GLAAD spokesman Wilson Cruz, in a laughably ridiculous statement, responded to Robertson by saying, “Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe.”
Actually, Robertson said precisely what true Christians believe and anyone, including A & E, letting GLAAD be an arbiter of true Christian thought is pretty quickly destined for hell fire.
A & E has now joined much of mass market culture in the Western World in picking sides in a fight — tolerance for gay rights, but not for Christians expressing honest answers to questions asked of their faith. The only surprise is that the Christians of Duck Dynasty could last there as long as they did. A&E has as much right to do this as you have to turn the channel. But they have clearly aligned themselves against us in the culture wars.
The world is at war with Christ and those who put their faith in Christ. The silver lining of this act is that many Christians who decided they could sit on the sidelines and not have to care will have a wake up call — particularly millennial Christians.
The Church, however, must show it will stand with those who stand with Christ and not shy away from this fight lest too many weak and new Christians go wobbly and silent.
You will be made to care. You will not be given the option of silence or the sidelines.
rtwgnt • 20 hours ago −:lol
I immediately sent A&E an e-mail and expressed my feelings about their genuflecting to the militant HOMOSEXUAL (not "gay" Erick) movement. My family will no longer watch that channel, whether they show DD or not, unless Phil is reinstated.
If the Robertson sons have an ounce of respect for their dad, they will immediately pull the show, beginning January 15, regardless of the legal ramifications...right is right...period.
Again, conservatives please stop using the word "gay" when discussing homosexuality, you are only playing their PC game and legitimizing their theft/redefinition of a word to make their sinful lifestyle more palatable. I'm talking to you Erick!
The two events that have spawned the most activity from facebook folks I know about the CULTURE WARS
- Chik Fila
- Duck Dynasty
Staying losing America :usacry
I had never seen a preview or anything and always just assumed that this was an ongoing documentary about the Oregon football program. Boy was I surprised.
They will milk the controversy for awhile, the beard guy will apologize, Duck Dynasty will be more popular than ever.
The two events that have spawned the most activity from facebook folks I know about the CULTURE WARS
- Chik Fila
- Duck Dynasty
Staying losing America :usacry
Ultimately There Will Be No Option for Silence or the Sidelines. You Will Be Made To Care.
By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | December 18th, 2013 at 08:46 PM | 139
I have told you people again and again. You will be made to care.
The two events that have spawned the most activity from facebook folks I know about the CULTURE WARS
- Chik Fila
- Duck Dynasty
Staying losing America :usacry
I blame Nancy Grace.
It's MEGA-meta-outrage, people are more outraged at the people outraged at the people outraged for the people "outraged" by his not really that outrageous comments. (Again, conceding his known views.)
GLAAD bitched so A&E "suspended" him while saying how tolerant they are, and rather than seeing it as the standard corporation trying to make everybody semi-happy until they move on and forget, a certain class sees it as just another WAR AGAINST CHRISTIAN FREE SPEECH FROM THE HOMOSEXUALIST AGENDA, which sends people outraged at them into a tizzy, so the former people can get more outraged at them as they all say stupid things. And most importantly fill all this damned air time and meet these deadlines.
Meanwhile, us sane people are working on our MEGA LAWSUIT thanks to the Commerce Clause. One that will finally expose the Hearst Corporation (PART OWNER OF A&E) plot that stems back to the Spanish-American War and really took off with the founding of Good Housekeeping that this phony scandal is all just another cover for.
I AM NOW I DON'T HAVE THE PATIENCE TO WAIT FOR THISu outraged bro :heh
This thread was more making fun of the actual comments and people who see this as a SLIGHT AGAINST FREEDOM. I don't see much outrage.
True story: An Imam and teacher of ours once gave us a lecture on how boy ass is tempting but we need to resist for Allah's true love or some shit like that. All it did was make us think the teacher was gay and our more flamboyant colleagues frequented the teachers lounge more often.hah, a youth group pastor once passionately went on a spiel about the importance of being in and pursuing a relationship to solidify our commitment to god and family, and also to avoid the temptation of homosexuality.
ps. he did not have a girlfriend at the time of the speech. :hehMaybe he should have gone on a spiel about the importance of not stalking and spying on your pastor.
you obviously never saw his ass in tight jeans :droolps. he did not have a girlfriend at the time of the speech. :hehMaybe he should have gone on a spiel about the importance of not stalking and spying on your pastor.
"First they say, 'There is no God. Get him out of your mind,'" Robertson says in the speech. "Then they bow down to birds, animals and reptiles, and each other. And the first thing you see coming out of them is gross sexual immorality. They will dishonor their bodies with one another, degrade each other. Uh, is that going on in the United States of America? Look around. God's not there ... And boy is there some immorality going on around here. Does it get worse?"
"Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions," he continued. "They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil. That's what you have 235 years, roughly, after your forefathers founded the country. So what are you gonna do Pennsylvania? Just run with them? You're going to die. Don't forget that."
The suspension of Phil Robertson from A&E’s Duck Dynasty is outrageous in a nation that values freedom, according to social critic and openly gay, dissident feminist Camille Paglia.
“I speak with authority here, because I was openly gay before the ‘Stonewall rebellion,’ when it cost you something to be so. And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech,” Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, said on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Thursday.
“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality — as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,” she added.
...
“To express yourself in a magazine in an interview — this is the level of punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist, OK, that my liberal colleagues in the Democratic Party and on college campuses have supported and promoted over the last several decades,” Paglia said. “This is the whole legacy of free speech 1960’s that have been lost by my own party.”
Paglia went on to point out that while she is an atheist she respects religion and has been frustrated by the intolerance of gay activists.
“I think that this intolerance by gay activists toward the full spectrum of human beliefs is a sign of immaturity, juvenility,” Paglia said. “This is not the mark of a true intellectual life. This is why there is no cultural life now in the U.S. Why nothing is of interest coming from the major media in terms of cultural criticism. Why the graduates of the Ivy League with their A, A, A+ grades are complete cultural illiterates, etc. is because they are not being educated in any way to give respect to opposing view points.”
“There is a dialogue going on human civilization, for heaven sakes. It’s not just this monologue coming from fanatics who have displaced the religious beliefs of their parents into a political movement,” she added. “And that is what happened to feminism, and that is what happened to gay activism, a fanaticism.”
CATHERINE SteveThomas39 • 4 hours ago −JUDGES ARE BUTT DOING US :drool
DON'T BE FOOLED, SHE IS JUST COMING OUT BECAUSE THE BRUSH BACK IS SO HUGE
SHE HAS BEEN POURING GAS ON THESE FIRES FOR YEARS.......THEIR HATRED FOR THE REST IS OFF THE CHART..........
THEY ARE FEMI NAZIS, GREAT WORD
...LOOK AT THE RACISTS AND BLACK PANTHERS THAT ARE IN OUR FACE NOW...............
WHO KNEW THEY WERE SO FULL OF HATE, WE AREN'T, BUT THEY GOT POWER AND ARE OUT OF CONTROL TO DESTROY US
88% WHITE NATION ELECTED A BLACK GUY TWICE AND 12% ARE STILL SCREAMING WE ARE ALL RACISTS,
GAYS ARE LESS THAN ONE HALF OF ONE PERCENT, ESPECIALLY THE MARRIAGE ONES.................
THEY 'INTOLERANTLY' DUG OUT MARRIAGE IN THE BIBLE AND STOLE IT.............KICKED US IN THE FACE CALLING 'US' INTOLERANT FOR NOT GIVING IT TO THEM,
OFFLMFAO, AND EVEN THOUGH GAY MARRIAGE HAS NEVER WON EVER IN AN ELECTION...........THEIR JUDGES ARE BUTT DOING US .............
I SERVED WITH GAY HEROES, THESE NASTY THUG GAYS COULDN'T LICK THEIR BOOTS, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE PICKED ANOTHER WORD..........
THAT WOULD SHOW TOLERANCE FOR A HUGE 70% OF THE NATION WHO ARE CHRISTIANS THOUGH, WOULDN'T IT??
NOPE, SCREW THE MAJORITY, SCREW YOUR BIBLE, WE WANT 'THAT ' WORD.....
SEE THE WORM HAS TURNED AND THE LIBTURDS DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT YET
JUST LIKE WHAT MANDELA FOUGHT FOR
MAJORITY RULE IS COMING BACK
THE LIBTURDS IN POWER HAVE DESTROYED US, LOOK AROUND, ON EVERY FRONT
DON'T FORGET- BARRY AND PELOSI AND REID TOOK TOTAL CONTROL OF CONGRESS ON JAN 2007.............ALMOST 7 YEARS OF COMMUNIST GUYS IN POWER.................LOOK AROUND............TOTAL DESTRUCTION
The craziest thing is that America really isn't liberal at all. I imagine Europe scares the living shit out of these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Zepse1oWg:bow rocket surgery :bow2
That dude is right. Look at the absolute destruction of the conservative anus.
ukrainian man anus :lawdThe craziest thing is that America really isn't liberal at all. I imagine Europe scares the living shit out of these guys.
Of course it does, Europe is a hotbed of socialism.
well, regardless, gay men are doing beards better anyway and they've become much more popular in our community than these ugly grody grossness the Duck Dynasty fucks perpetuate.Are you talking about facial hair or women?
Now he's Rosa Parks. :neogaf :comeon
Facial hair; I never talk about women.well, regardless, gay men are doing beards better anyway and they've become much more popular in our community than these ugly grody grossness the Duck Dynasty fucks perpetuate.Are you talking about facial hair or women?
uh oh the people I know who watch Fox News and/or Duck Dynasty LOVE the Cracker Barrel
“Dear Cracker Barrel Customer:
When we made the decision to remove and evaluate certain Duck Dynasty items, we offended many of our loyal customers. Our intent was to avoid offending, but that’s just what we’ve done.
You told us we made a mistake. And, you weren’t shy about it. You wrote, you called and you took to social media to express your thoughts and feelings. You flat out told us we were wrong.
We listened.
Today, we are putting all our Duck Dynasty products back in our stores.
And, we apologize for offending you.
We respect all individuals [sic] right to express their beliefs. We certainly did not mean to have anyone think different [sic].
We sincerely hope you will continue to be part of our Cracker Barrel family.
A man's anus is more desirable than Cracker Barrel.Try a man's anus in the parking lot of cracker barrel at 2am
Cracker Barrel :hitlerIt's a barrel of crackers!
A man's anus is more desirable than Cracker Barrel.
I've been to one and, yes, easily. That place was full of the ugliest, fattest, most rednecky Southern people imaginable last time I was there.I went with my family back in the day, and it took 30 minutes for a waiter to come to our table. The place wasn't full. It was obvious what was going on, even to me as a kid at the time.
I've been to one and, yes, easily. That place was full of the ugliest, fattest, most rednecky Southern people imaginable last time I was there.I went with my family back in the day, and it took 30 minutes for a waiter to come to our table. The place wasn't full. It was obvious what was going on, even to me as a kid at the time.
The government said its [2004] investigations showed that Cracker Barrel segregated customers by race; allowed white servers to refuse to wait on African-American customers; and seated or served white customers before seating or serving similarly situated African-American customers. Justice further alleged that, in many cases, managers directed, participated or acquiesced in those practices.
True story: An Imam and teacher of ours once gave us a lecture on how boy ass is tempting but we need to resist for Allah's true love or some shit like that. All it did was make us think the teacher was gay and our more flamboyant colleagues frequented the teachers lounge more often.
Lt. Gov. Jay Dardenne, who runs the state's Department of Culture, Recreation and Tourism, released a statement Saturday vowing to help Robertson and his family find new producers for the show in the wake of his suspension from the A&E network.
"Regardless of one's views on Phil Robertson's statements, Duck Dynasty has been an important representation of the state of Louisiana, inspiring prospective visitors and investors since its debut. Their show draws tens of millions of viewers each year, reaching an audience eager to visit Sportsman's Paradise," Dardenne said. "If the Robertson family cannot come to an agreement with A&E and wants to continue the show, Louisiana already has the infrastructure in place to maintain their record-breaking program.”
NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/a-e-ends-duck-dynasty-star-phil-robertson-s-suspension
NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/a-e-ends-duck-dynasty-star-phil-robertson-s-suspension
NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED:bow DEMOCRACY IN ACTION :bow2
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/a-e-ends-duck-dynasty-star-phil-robertson-s-suspension
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
On the plus side, this took off nearly all the focus on healthcare.gate.
Naw, liberals don't give a shit
Wha? All instances I saw of this conversation were rednecks flipping out and liberals saying who cares.
UPDATE: GLAAD responds: “Phil Robertson should look African American and gay people in the eyes and hear about the hurtful impact of praising Jim Crow laws and comparing gay people to terrorists. If dialogue with Phil is not part of next steps then A+E has chosen profits over African American and gay people – especially its employees and viewers.”http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/12/27/duck-dynasty-ae-lifts-suspension-on-phil-robertson/
No.
QuoteUPDATE: GLAAD responds: “Phil Robertson should look African American and gay people in the eyes and hear about the hurtful impact of praising Jim Crow laws and comparing gay people to terrorists. If dialogue with Phil is not part of next steps then A+E has chosen profits over African American and gay people – especially its employees and viewers.”http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/12/27/duck-dynasty-ae-lifts-suspension-on-phil-robertson/
:beli
QuoteUPDATE: GLAAD responds: “Phil Robertson should look African American and gay people in the eyes and hear about the hurtful impact of praising Jim Crow laws and comparing gay people to terrorists. If dialogue with Phil is not part of next steps then A+E has chosen profits over African American and gay people – especially its employees and viewers.”http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/12/27/duck-dynasty-ae-lifts-suspension-on-phil-robertson/
Oh lawd here comes the Kentucky defense force.
I was naming a fictional militia made up of Bore members from Kentucky who defend hillbilly values. I apologize for the ambiguity.
Oh lawd here comes the Kentucky defense force.
He just said that in his personal experience that he never saw anything bad happen to black people during that time.
Here's the thing, the guy never said that gay people were terrorists. He said he thought they were all sinners. He never praised Jim Crow laws either. He just said that in his personal experience that he never saw anything bad happen to black people during that time.except for the Phil Robertson youtube clip of him condemning gays to death. i don't particularly care if he felt that the Bible inspired such a speech, but it's not like the interview response was some new attack against a minority -- he's been doing it for some time now, just without the spotlight
I have been watching the show now for a while. These aren't uneducated people. They're not a bunch of bigoted hillbillies. They're actually one group of people that (until this point) have never even said anything against any other group of people. Their feelings about homosexuals is not one based on hatred, but based on the Bible.
I think this whole thing has blown up because it's great for sensational media. Still yet, I don't understand why people who don't watch the show, have never watched the show, and never will watch the show care so much about what one man says in a magazine interview. If you don't like it, don't watch.
What don't they agree with? That gays should burn in hell, or that black people were happier as slaves?
Wait, wait, wait.
Was Groogrux being serious? I thought he copied/pasted that post from someone on gaf...
don't forget about them murderous Christ-less shintos
“Now that’s a woman. They got to where they’re hard to find. Mainly because these boys are waiting til they’re twenty years old before they marry them. Look, you wait til they get to be twenty years old and the the only picking that’s going to take place is your pocket. You got to marry these girls when they’re about fifteen or sixteen and they’ll pick your ducks.”
The gay comments didn't bother me as much since it's basically what any of the people who follow the big religions zealously think. It's out there and known(I personally can never understand a gay person being a christian, or a woman being a muslim, etc.). The comments on black people was biased, as in at best it could just be his personal experience, but the way he said it and saying that they were happy cause they sang then is idiotic and has a sense of bigotry behind it. He said the blues didn't exist then, what? All of it is just denying historical facts. And that, in and of itself should be called out.
As far as being upset goes, not really. This shit was unsurprising and doesn't matter to me. He should be called out for what he said, but I don't see why you should rustle your jimmies over it.
Following a religion 100% simply isn't feasible anymore in modern-day society unless you're a monk or embedded deep in the heart of the Middle East. Judaism, for example, requires frequent animal sacrifices; Christianity condemns wearing clothes of two different fabrics, etc... The people who claim they follow their religion 100% aren't and are simply lying to themselves. This alone justifies the fact of being gay and Christian, because the people who condemn gays aren't really that much better at being Christian either.As far as the Christians who are gay that I've met; to my knowledge most of them have been born into that faith through their families and have come to terms with their sexuality afterwards (no, I'm not saying they chose to be gay afterwards). Living in Kentucky, I can't say that I've actually met too many Muslims, so I can't really speak on that. My guess would be the same for the women who are Muslims as well though.
I know that and have met gay and transgender muslims myself. The thing that bothers me is my school years I've been taught that you either take all of the religion or you burn in hell. Which is one of the first things that struck me as strange and had me leave islam. But it followed me in how I see people who follow any religion in general. Why would you choose to believe in something a 100% and not follow it 100%? It's how I usually point out hypocrisy in people to bug em mostly.
In general, I don't care what anyone believes in and I'm not going on shit on them for it. But if you choose to shit on people without seeing the "sinner" in you I'll call bullshit.
The most ironic thing I encountered was a friend of mine who says she's a tried and true feminist and yet wears a hijab willingly for islam. I told her that I couldn't take a lot of her feminism seriously cause Islam and feminism don't mix.
Psst. There are religions that aren't monotheistic faiths. It's perfectly possible to be a Taoist or Buddhist and live that 100% in modern day. Buddhism in particular has a complete separate set of rules between layman and monastics. Just because Christianity and Islam come off as ridiculous, doesn't mean all religions are.
Who said they weren't? And who also said any philosophical or theistic movement is perfect? That is such a ridiculous strawman and doesn't address the point I made to Zephyr, who said that it's impossible to live 100% a religion in modern day - this is false. I laid out Buddhism and Taoism as examples of religions where this is perfectly possible in 2013; the fact that some sects or entire countries' manner of practice isn't healthy does not detract from my point.
Such as?
Such as?
Complete and utter devotion to Buddhism would require a much more monastic life. Consider materialism, the ability to tell the truth always, doing no harm to any other being, sexual misconduct.
I guess you just plain forgot about the Dalai Lama's statements about homosexuals and oral sex?
Jesus Christ. :lol I won't even touch this one.
But, I'll finish by saying, I'm absolutely sick of your strawman talking points you're brandishing across this board when they - though you feel they make you look smart and are adding to the discussion - add little value if any significance to the current dialogue, and often - such as this example - detour the conversation in completely different ways. When I asked the other week if I should bother going to grad school, or just let my art speak for myself, you took a single sentence and turned it into "well the employers are going to want someone who can work with other people and blah blah" when I asked specifically on schooling. Please, for the rest of the boards sanity, stop making one liner, "smart" quips that only you think make you look intelligent yet aren't related to the topic at hand. It's getting a bit ridiculous and makes you come off as obtuse. Please stop.
Psst. There are religions that aren't monotheistic faiths. It's perfectly possible to be a Taoist or Buddhist and live that 100% in modern day. Buddhism in particular has a complete separate set of rules between layman and monastics. Just because Christianity and Islam come off as ridiculous, doesn't mean all religions are.
Psst. There are religions that aren't monotheistic faiths. It's perfectly possible to be a Taoist or Buddhist and live that 100% in modern day. Buddhism in particular has a complete separate set of rules between layman and monastics. Just because Christianity and Islam come off as ridiculous, doesn't mean all religions are.In the way I speak of religion, I mostly speak of Abrahamic origins, because that's what we're discussing w/r/t Phil Bigot Robertson. Eastern religion is so very different in comparison and more embedded in spirituality and a strong disconnect from typical social construction that I can't argue about it either way. I will, however, echo the fact that a true Taoist or Buddhist would be living the monastic life, because the roots of these two beliefs require a complete severance from all that is material. Watch Samsara and see what I mean.
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tl;dr I'm a little stoned and trying to make a coherent argument
But the last thing this old duck dude was hired to do was to give his opinion on social issues. So it made sense for him to be fired and it was the public outrage at the supposed infringement on his freedom of speech that I find to be so wrong.
I have a friend who is transgender and "believes" in Judaism and Islam but doesn't practice beyond wearing hijab, uses it as a moral guide rather than a set of dogma. I can respect that.
But the last thing this old duck dude was hired to do was to give his opinion on social issues. So it made sense for him to be fired and it was the public outrage at the supposed infringement on his freedom of speech that I find to be so wrong.Psst. There are religions that aren't monotheistic faiths. It's perfectly possible to be a Taoist or Buddhist and live that 100% in modern day. Buddhism in particular has a complete separate set of rules between layman and monastics. Just because Christianity and Islam come off as ridiculous, doesn't mean all religions are.
Remember when you were trying to argue that a woman actually looks more beautiful when wearing a head scarf and we all thought that was ridiculous?
Even if you know something is ridiculous, you'll justify it to yourself if you truly believe it is a good thing.
I will, however, echo the fact that a true Taoist or Buddhist would be living the monastic life, because the roots of these two beliefs require a complete severance from all that is material. Watch Samsara and see what I mean.
Psst. There are religions that aren't monotheistic faiths. It's perfectly possible to be a Taoist or Buddhist and live that 100% in modern day. Buddhism in particular has a complete separate set of rules between layman and monastics. Just because Christianity and Islam come off as ridiculous, doesn't mean all religions are.I will, however, echo the fact that a true Taoist or Buddhist would be living the monastic life, because the roots of these two beliefs require a complete severance from all that is material. Watch Samsara and see what I mean.
:lol sorry man, I can't comment on buddhism but the idea that Daoism requires you to be part of the clergy or live monastic life is about as educated as the "all eastern things are mystical view". Unless you're saying that there's some no true follower equivalent in all religions, where if you want to be considered truly a man of _____ you have to 100% immerse yourself. I don't subscribe to that view, nor do any of the daoists i've spoken with either. The obvious reason being that a society must live in balance too. Lineage specificity aside, the basic requirements for Daoist life are essentially the same across the board; dietetics, ethics,health and longevity practice, meditation, ritual, seasonal awareness, and scripture study. Nobody's really urging you to jump out into the wild on a mountain somewhere and live like Laozi doing 'research'. Daoism as an individual spiritual practice is not really about transcending the material world either, fyi. It's about preserving and developing your three treasures; evolving your body spirit and mind to reach a point of 'neutrality' where you're harmonized with nature. And you don't have to be an ascetic to achieve that (hua).
I think we're getting off-topic here; we're need to steer the conversation back to men's anuses.sounds like we just need to start a religion centered on men's anuses. maybe then the people will care.
And people are not ridiculous, people are people.You're ridiculous.
And people are not ridiculous, people are people.
You're ridiculous.
But rather than a ratings spike, viewership for the show's season five premiere actually dipped considerably. Wednesday's premiere drew 8.5 million viewers, down 28 percent from the season four premiere last August.
Quote from: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-season-five-ratings-downBut rather than a ratings spike, viewership for the show's season five premiere actually dipped considerably. Wednesday's premiere drew 8.5 million viewers, down 28 percent from the season four premiere last August.
Oops!
Come on, who wouldn't wanna watch a show about these suave fellas?
(http://i.imgur.com/6XytAy3.jpg)
Isn't duck dynasty just 2 years old? If so how is it on season 5?because Reality TV, for example, Survivor (on air in America since 2000) will be entering its 28th season soon.
Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson, which led to his temporary suspension from the popular A&E show in December – and sparked a national debate on free speech and sexual morality – was a form of “spiritual warfare,” said Jase Robertson, who added that as the interview went on, “it felt more like an attack because our family has a prayer at the end of the show.”
Duck Dynasty’s Jase Robertson, the second oldest son of Phil and ‘Miss Kay’ Robertson, related his experience of that GQ session -- which was initially attended by the show’s entire cast but they eventually walked out because of its hostile questioning – in an interview with CNSNews.com on July 8 in Washington, D.C.
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Prior to the press conference, CNSNews.com spoke with Jase Robertson about his new book, Good Call: Reflections on Faith, Family, and Fowl, where he touches on the GQ interview, stating it was the only one he ever walked out on and that he had asked his father “to stop the interview because the questions were hypothetical, argumentative, and controversial.”
CNSNews.com asked Robertson, “You said it got to the point where you thought it was an ordeal that, you said the whole ordeal was ‘a form of spiritual warfare.’ I was wondering if you could explain specifically what you mean by spiritual warfare?”
Robertson said, “What I came to realize there is, because we had done so many interviews before and I’d never sensed any kind of animosity toward our faith in God and belief, but this guy, he knew who we were, he was in my dad’s home. And, you know, in the South, when you come into somebody’s house, you show a certain amount of respect. And it occurred to me that he knew we were people of faith.”
“He was using four-letter words, a lot of F-bombs, he was making fun of some of the things we hold true,” said Robertson. “The first statement of the whole process was, he looked at me and said, ‘Do you actually expect people to believe that you waited until you got married before you had sex?’ That was the first statement out of his mouth. Well, I kind of looked around at the publicist and I thought, ‘Is this the interview?’ I mean, because this was just the way it came across.”
As Robertson explains in Good Call, both he and his future wife, Missy Robertson, stayed chaste until their wedding night, a fact that Mrs. Robertson also affirmed to CNSNews.com.
Jase Robertson continued, “So, as it [the GQ interview] went on, I realized that it felt more like an attack because our family has a prayer at the end of the show. That’s what I felt like was a spiritual war.”
Asked whether the questions were deliberately designed to hurt the family or the Duck Dynasty show, Robertson said, “No, I don’t want to get into the mind, but the questions were only about controversial things. He asked about, he looked at my dad and said, ‘What do you think of homosexuality?’ Which my dad didn’t really answer but, you know. And so it went from there. You see what I mean?”
“And so, I think it was just a plan to get some, some of that [which] caused us some trouble,” said Robertson. “But, you know, we don’t hold anything against him, so. Or even by trying that. My dad thought he wanted to take a stand in his house, and I don’t blame him.”
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Duck Dynasty, now in its sixth season, is the most highly rated reality-TV show in cable history. An average 10.5 million viewers watch the show each week. At the end of every episode, the family gathers around the dinner table and says a prayer of thanksgiving to God.
At the end of every episode, the family gathers around the dinner table and says a prayer of thanksgiving to God.
And there's some Christian American families (mine being one of them) that will say blessing when they're eating out at some restaurant.
I just start eating as soon as the food arrives. That usually that breaks them out of it.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+4%3A5%2C&version=NIV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=james+2%3A26&version=NIV
Had to give a "sermon" for a speech class at BJU. I quoted Romans 4:5 at the beginning of it and James 2:26 near the end. Oh how I wish I could show you the looks I got, brehs.
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The Romans one is saying (or at least it can be interpreted this way) that good deeds/works are not required for salvation.
All that is required is your faith in Christ and his sacrifice on the cross.
“I’ll make a bet with you,” Robertson said. “Two guys break into an atheist’s home. He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters. Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him. And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot them and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”
Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”
“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/phil-robertson-rape-murder-atheistsQuote“I’ll make a bet with you,” Robertson said. “Two guys break into an atheist’s home. He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters. Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him. And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot them and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”
Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”
“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/phil-robertson-rape-murder-atheistsNow I know why they always film Robertson and his guests behind a desk. They must've needed buckets for all that semen they ejaculated while talking about this scenario.Quote“I’ll make a bet with you,” Robertson said. “Two guys break into an atheist’s home. He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters. Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him. And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot them and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”
Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”
“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”
When are atheist leaders going to address the murder/rape epidemic that's plaguing the atheist community and no where else?
When are atheist leaders going to address the murder/rape epidemic that's plaguing the atheist community and no where else?
What is an atheist leader? The least lethargic of the hipsters? :yeshrug
When are atheist leaders going to address the murder/rape epidemic that's plaguing the atheist community and no where else?
What is an atheist leader? The least lethargic of the hipsters? :yeshrug
Nah, they were into atheism before it got so mainstream, now it's cool to watch Duck Dynasty and worship God ironically.
nah they just get dragged by their parents and sext the whole time.When are atheist leaders going to address the murder/rape epidemic that's plaguing the atheist community and no where else?
What is an atheist leader? The least lethargic of the hipsters? :yeshrug
Nah, they were into atheism before it got so mainstream, now it's cool to watch Duck Dynasty and worship God ironically.