ummm. i just got done jerking off now i'm playing videogames. is that a problem
Like no one is asking "Is it fun enough?"Is that actually true? :larry As far as I know, reviews are still being published. I very rarely read them any more, but they're there. Show me reviews that focus too much on social issues and I'll entertain the thought that we're not talking enough about "fun" any more.
i apologize for my prior post. it was very rude and abrasive. what i'm saying is this whole topic sucks.(http://nogaems.ru/image.ashx?fileid=31827)
You seriously going to telling me you haven't heard "But is it sexist/inclusive?" lately? Where the hell have you been?Of course I have, but is it actually reducing the regular stuff?
You seriously going to telling me you haven't heard "But is it sexist/inclusive?" lately? Where the hell have you been?
Yeah, maybe I just haven't been paying attention, but growing up gaming had its fair share of complaints about being a boys club, complaints about violence in games, people fighting console wars and calling each other feggits... but it was never quite like this. Nobody was posting developers' credit card info online, or sending death threats to them for having a difference of opinion. There were much fewer girls involved in online gaming communities but there was no battle of the sexes, no #notallmen, no #notallwomen.
And the games were much more fun and not nearly as pretentious. Nobody gave a shit whether or not their favorite game was 'art', we all just accepted our hobby as offbeat and nerdy.
But enough reminiscing like the old fart I am, time to play some vidya, pretensions be damned.
That's the whole point.
When I was criticing music one thing my editor told me was not to focus if the must "x enough" whether that was structured enough, produced enough, authentic enough, whatever. Just focus on if it was "good enough".
And that's the thing. Everyone is so caught up in "is it sexist?", "Is it inclusive enough?", "Are the graphics good enough?", "Is it social enough"? Like no one is asking "Is it fun enough?"
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There's no problem in asking for inclusivity. However, letting that get in your (and others) way of appreciating stuff is a problem.You seriously going to telling me you haven't heard "But is it sexist/inclusive?" lately? Where the hell have you been?
Why is this a problem? This is an important dialogue games must have or it'll suffer by going the way of comics. More diversity in games to appeal to all types of people is good.
although I believe the modern term is "Social Justice Warriors?"
Here, I'm going to help everyoneHow can you enjoy Phil Spector? He had terrible hair! I'm outraged!
If you work in the industry, then this is a problem for you and you should care about it
If you're an end consumer, who fucking cares? I'm so tired of having to be outraged about shit. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go listen to Phil Spector albums and watch China Town. Fuck the outrage machine.
There is a horrible corruption problem within gaming journalism, the problem is that it's been there since the inception of video games and people sperging out now over it is ridiculous when it was there all along.
But Zoe Quinn is a piece of shit who literally makes 2 thousand five hundred dollars a month to create text adventures.
If you're an end consumer, who fucking cares?
If they hadn't said they were going to have female options in AC, there'd be NO fucking stink about it.
Also, I may suggest that you are a little more sensitive to this sort of thing (having a female option) than most people, Himu? :P (understandable, but still)
If you're an end consumer, who fucking cares?
You don't honestly expect me to believe people have fun with Assassins Creed.
Also there's a difference between saying "Hey we'd really like this!" and manufacturing contraversy.
I think it's more realistic to expect that sort of thing in indie games than AAA titles, what with the impending industry death spiral and increasing dev costs.
Also, hates on SRIV and loves GTAV
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i'm not sure i give a shit about the colour or genital status of whatever terribly written humanity void i'm vaguely interacting with as a sweatshop's worth of art assets stream past me at 22 frames per second. it's all usually so completely disengaging on any kind of emotional level that everything just becomes abstracted to the point where they might as well have never bothered with textures.
Dude you serious here? Not only saying "there was no contraversy!" but ad hominem too? Come on Himu, you're better than that.You don't honestly expect me to believe people have fun with Assassins Creed.
Also there's a difference between saying "Hey we'd really like this!" and manufacturing contraversy.
So all cases of this is just manufacturing controversy? Okay.
You originally said fun is what matters. But you don't find AC fun. Yet you have a problem with the people raising a stink about the lack of co-op options in the new one. I don't think you care about fun as much as you say you do.
You're welcome. :heart
This past month has been really rough. Just yesterday a friend of mine took over the Xseed twitter to replace the shithead that was running it. In less than an hour there was a 4chan thread about her digging up her personal info, looking over all the pictures in her personal account and making her feel like shit for "replacing" the previous shithead and claiming she was another SJW. I really want whatever crawled up the internet's ass to just go away already.
I applaud your cynicism, but don't be so binary, head-kun. :<
I know Gone Home gets flack for being a non-game, but I think it's a step in the right direction as far as diversity of viewpoints goes. In that they are acknowledged now. But I'm not going to hold my breath for safe AAA titles/series to change in any meaningful way.
i'm not sure i give a shit about the colour or genital status of whatever terribly written humanity void i'm vaguely interacting with as a sweatshop's worth of art assets stream past me at 22 frames per second. it's all usually so completely disengaging on any kind of emotional level that everything just becomes abstracted to the point where they might as well have never bothered with textures.
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Most hollywood movies are crap. That doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with admitting there's a lack if balance towards representing races on screen. Something can be artistically bland and still be harmful. I'm not seeing why being emotionally invested has to do with... well, anything.
You're welcome. :heartSee? shit like this.
This past month has been really rough. Just yesterday a friend of mine took over the Xseed twitter to replace the shithead that was running it. In less than an hour there was a 4chan thread about her digging up her personal info, looking over all the pictures in her personal account and making her feel like shit for "replacing" the previous shithead and claiming she was another SJW. I really want whatever crawled up the internet's ass to just go away already.
i'm not sure i give a shit about the colour or genital status of whatever terribly written humanity void i'm vaguely interacting with as a sweatshop's worth of art assets stream past me at 22 frames per second. it's all usually so completely disengaging on any kind of emotional level that everything just becomes abstracted to the point where they might as well have never bothered with textures.
............
Most hollywood movies are crap. That doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with admitting there's a lack if balance towards representing races on screen. Something can be artistically bland and still be harmful. I'm not seeing why being emotionally invested has to do with... well, anything.
of course there's a lack of balance. black guys? black chicks? trans black chicks? that's a risk. same reason they jettison any mechanic that can't be mastered while holding a doritos bag in the other hand.
you have two options, make basing a big budget game on anything other than a straight white guy less risky to Big Marketing Consultancy, or stop hoping for anything from titles which have risk aversion as nine of their ten commandments.
edit: i just looked at the xseed twitter and it is still non-stop waifu shit, what more could these troglodytes possibly want?
i'm not sure i give a shit about the colour or genital status of whatever terribly written humanity void i'm vaguely interacting with as a sweatshop's worth of art assets stream past me at 22 frames per second. it's all usually so completely disengaging on any kind of emotional level that everything just becomes abstracted to the point where they might as well have never bothered with textures.
............
Most hollywood movies are crap. That doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with admitting there's a lack if balance towards representing races on screen. Something can be artistically bland and still be harmful. I'm not seeing why being emotionally invested has to do with... well, anything.
of course there's a lack of balance. black guys? black chicks? trans black chicks? that's a risk. same reason they jettison any mechanic that can't be mastered while holding a doritos bag in the other hand.
you have two options, make basing a big budget game on anything other than a straight white guy less risky to Big Marketing Consultancy, or stop hoping for anything from titles which have risk aversion as nine of their ten commandments.
Infamous second son starred a Native American. I don't really care if they're black so long as there's more racial diversity among games, and games like GTASA really put the "risk" thing down the toilet.
Miyamoto games and rescuing princesses all the time is what gets the goat of all these butthurt folks that refer to others as "cis" and "ableist" unironically in the first place.