2001 is the og ringtone rap album. :teeheeI can't even deny this (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/pachah1.png)
you motherfuckers couldn't even wait until page 2 for nirvana hate :tocryLet's kick it up a notch.
Foo Fighters > Nirvana(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xLNwqxaRR8U/Uqopq6CmswI/AAAAAAAABj0/ezZSKOXVIQs/s1600/Lisa.gif)
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr04/26/16/anigif_enhanced-11735-1393450177-11.gif)you motherfuckers couldn't even wait until page 2 for nirvana hate :tocryLet's kick it up a notch.
Nirvana's unplugged performance was a mess that they barely shambled to the end of.
Nah, no need to catch feelings over crappy aughts rock.
At least they're not Muse, terrible band that one is.
The Infamous is the most overrated album of its genre
Black Album (Metallica) is a fantastic album.:shaq2
Guru would be somewhere rapping for change if he didn't link up with Premier.Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is
Khaki wearing motherfucker :pacspitI've already said my piece about this jawn. Shit is a 4.5/
Dilla was pretty popular before he died. Let's not change history. Then again, as a Common fan, I was always fond of him. I remember people - including myself - being disappointed Kanye was producing so much of Be.
Man the late 90's and aughts were bad for mainstream anything.
Khaki wearing motherfucker :pacspitI've already said my piece about this jawn. Shit is a 4.5/1716 on the Esch scale
Let's keep dropping bombs.
A lot of Jazz is musical masturbation. The performer is the only one that really enjoys it. A lot of other people like to act that they know what's going on but they have no clue but don't want to let everyone else know they don't know what's going on. #notalljazz (but a lot of it)
- Rick Ross is solid
Let's keep dropping bombs.(http://memeguy.com/photos/images/this-woman-hulks-out-throwing-a-table-and-catching-a-folding-chair-in-mid-air-no-idea-whats-going-on-23441.gif)
A lot of Jazz is musical masturbation. The performer is the only one that really enjoys it. A lot of other people like to act that they know what's going on but they have no clue but don't want to let everyone else know they don't know what's going on. #notalljazz (but a lot of it)
- Most of Jay Z's albums are better than Nas's best albums, but the albums by Nas haven't dropped as low as "MCHG" or "Kingdom Come"
the only people who listen to classic rock stations in 2014 have "don't renig in 2012" stickers on their ratty ass datsun pickup.I only listen to classic rock stations
agreed on sound of white noise being anthrax' best doesay this around trve cvlt cvnts and they spzz the fuck out. SoWN isn't anything earth-shattering but honestly if that's what you're listening to Anthrax for you lawst
Let's keep dropping bombs.
A lot of Jazz is musical masturbation. The performer is the only one that really enjoys it. A lot of other people like to act that they know what's going on but they have no clue but don't want to let everyone else know they don't know what's going on. #notalljazz (but a lot of it)
Man the late 90's and aughts were bad for mainstream anything.
:beli
And you're defending Nirvana.
There's defending, and then there's shitting on Foo Fighters and Muse. Which if you know me you knew you'd have seen me express that very opinion before. Nirvana isn't even one of my favorite bands. But they made music I enjoyed, and suddenly deciding the weakest and most underwhelming rock bands of that era are better by virtue of your nostalgia for the period it came out.
98-07 is by far the worst period for any kind of mainstream music with few exceptions here and there. That's not controversial, that's straight up facts.
Nah, I meant music.
Find me 5 producers who chop samples better than Dilla. I'll wait. Find 5 producers with better or on par drums. I'll give you Pete Rock, so find 4 more.
The first two Linkin Park albums are great.subterranean-key, I don't hate on anyone who stans Meteora or Hybrid Theory. Like, even at the time I fucked with it as an 11 year old self-pitying mouth-breather I was like, "(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rudy.png)These guys make music for fekkits," but I can't deny that they had a lot of catchy material
Let's keep dropping bombs.
A lot of Jazz is musical masturbation. The performer is the only one that really enjoys it. A lot of other people like to act that they know what's going on but they have no clue but don't want to let everyone else know they don't know what's going on. #notalljazz (but a lot of it)
Did Mac just say black people have terrible taste in rock while he's defending Nirvana and shitting on queen in the same post:umad
:dead :tocryThe first two Linkin Park albums are great.subterranean-key, I don't hate on anyone who stans Meteora or Hybrid Theory. Like, even at the time I fucked with it as an 11 year old
Cajole isn't here so this won't have any pushback but...I've never really liked The Who. They have good albums obviously but I always felt they were missing something that bands like the Stones or Zeppelin had.
:dead :tocrypoint being, I was up to my eyeballs in Simple Plan-esque self effacing maudlin garbage. evidently Linkin Park was too much though :paclaugh
Ska sucks.how is that uncontraversial? Ska is just fat white guy with a fedora that can't even pretend they understand jazz music.
Did Mac just say black people have terrible taste in rock while he's defending Nirvana and shitting on queen in the same post:umad
Ska sucks.
no i was responding to the fact that you were 11 when meteora dropped :tocry:dead :tocrypoint being, I was up to my eyeballs in Simple Plan-esque self effacing maudlin garbage. evidently Linkin Park was too much though :paclaugh
Cajole isn't here so this won't have any pushback but...I've never really liked The Who. They have good albums obviously but I always felt they were missing something that bands like the Stones or Zeppelin had.
Cajole isn't here so this won't have any pushback but...I've never really liked The Who. They have good albums obviously but I always felt they were missing something that bands like the Stones or Zeppelin had.
listened to who's next?
Cajole isn't here so this won't have any pushback but...I've never really liked The Who. They have good albums obviously but I always felt they were missing something that bands like the Stones or Zeppelin had.
listened to who's next?
Yea. Not saying they're bad, I just don't rank them high personally compared to the 60s-70s shit I like.
Somewhere along the line in the 2000s, "conscious" hiphop forgot that it was supposed to be entertaining as well as informative and observant.
Sure the message is positive, but the music itself is no more interesting than elevator music.
Maybe it has to deal with me getting older but much of the "real" hiphop I championed at one point is real boring to me now.
ATCQ in a car with a good sound system :whew
And Cruncheon says music isn't that important
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-tupac-invented-the-term-larry-holmes-flabby-n-sick.78217/page-4#post-2877176
every time I think of De La Soul
We laughed about it later with a bunch of our peoples. It was so disrespectful, but it's a priceless memory. I wish I hadn't met de la, their first two albums were really important to me as a hip hop fan, and I haven't listened to any of their shit on purpose since meeting them. They were that corny to me.
Where Eagles Dare was their best RAF/Luftwaffe songand Seventh Son is their best album
The only era of Madonna to even come close to her early 80s eras was Ray of Light era.
http://youtu.be/zETVr04XUE4
well it was certainly more... special? to discover new music. I remember back in the day, before napster, direct connect, youtube, etc I would get recommendations on shit from the local record store (RIP Sight & Sound, van probably remembers this one :(), and having to wait a couple weeks in some cases to get my hands on it. granted, I was a teen at the time, but now I can flip through like 100 albums in an hour and just skip if a track doesn't grab me in 10 seconds. I have to force myself sometimes to sit down and just listen to something new start to finish.Yes. I feel like it's really easy to rail on the health of the industry (which is completely warranted, don't get me wrong) while glossing over the fact that the very way we consume music now has changed drastically. Saturation works both ways and I think the aesthetic of contemporary "mainstream" (whatever that means this week) music has to do with a combination of a) the immense dissemination of music caused by the rise of the internet b) a nose-diving focus of consumer interest that's reflected in sales across all media platforms and c) labels responding to a and b by creating and investing predominantly in conservative products.
well it was certainly more... special? to discover new music. I remember back in the day, before napster, direct connect, youtube, etc I would get recommendations on shit from the local record store (RIP Sight & Sound, van probably remembers this one :(), and having to wait a couple weeks in some cases to get my hands on it. granted, I was a teen at the time, but now I can flip through like 100 albums in an hour and just skip if a track doesn't grab me in 10 seconds. I have to force myself sometimes to sit down and just listen to something new start to finish.
I really didn't like ok computer at all after I first bought it, but after a couple of full listens it completely grabbed me. I don't know if I do that anymore.
- There hasn't been a decent alternative/rock/indie/whatever album in half a decade
I can sorta get this but at the same time before there was a bit of a wall of resources you had to overcome to get your music out there. Now there's a lot more music out there for everyone but the issue is the same as the publishing industry. Before, an album would be heavily produced and they'd run it through the ringer back and forth and sideways, and many times artists were told "Nah, that doesn't work so well, try it like this" (when you're an artist you need people to tell you when you stink) and when it worked well you had incredibly polished wonderful music. Now, any schmuck with enough money can have an "album" out there. and if they don't have someone that's an honest critic it all becomes unpolished and self indulgent. There is a lot of good talent out there that could be great if they had one of those more traditional big name producers.Controversial opinion:
The internet has ruined music. Good music is being made, no doubt. It always will be made. And the amazing thing about the internet is that you can go to previous era's, so that's a positive too and something no previous generations could have done, and it's something we must not take for granted. But even with the indie and lesser known acts included, I still find music of today to have less variety and more incomplete than what I listened to twenty years ago. One of the big problems is the death of the album. Albums just aren't that important in the grand scheme anymore, and are probably an outdated model. This leads to musicians concentrating their output on single tracks, but not cohesive albums that form the finality of the artists' message. The fact that you can just grab an album online for free or a track for 99 cents really contributed to this, and I'm not going to say I didn't do my part in contributing to this, but it still makes me sad. Oh well, farewell to an era.
It's like we're living in an age that has the possibility to bring about a new golden age of mainstream music, but we aren't going to get it because the game has changed so much. Like, there's a lot of great new musicians out there, but I'm not seeing any classic albums from them. It's like we're just flirting with potential, and I think this is true for all genres, except electronic because it somehow has managed to keep its underground status despite going more mainstream.
This probably isn't a controversial opinion. Just had to express it.
Nah, the music scene needed a kick in the ass after how bullshit it got from the mid 90's on. Especially how terribly run the business side of it was, still is and probably will be for a long time. The internet saved it if anything with bandcamp, itunes, spotify, etc. regardless how I find them to be for my own sake, give more options and more of an audience for everybody. Music has gotten more and more for niche audiences that exist, yes. But the variety is more than it has been in a while.
Problem some people have, which is completely understandable to me, is that there's a lot more effort involved in finding it. I honestly don't mind the effort considering the music I found. But in my honest opinion if you're not going to put effort into finding music today you can't really shit on an entire for music considering how much is out there and how much of it is good, could be good or could be bad in a good way.
Naughty By Nature was corny as fuck:obama I have no problem with this opinion
Naughty By Nature was corny as fuck:obama I have no problem with this opinion
Treach is one of the best technical mc's ever though
I love a lot of punks overall influence on many things I loved but generally as music i find it largely boring. I like some hardcore and a very limited amount of grind but that's it.
:yeshrug
Perhaps I'm misstating. What I'm trying to get at is that sometimes good music takes a lot of money, for talent, production, etc. Think of it this way, Bach's St Mathew's Passion takes two orchestras and 3 choirs to perform. He could do that because he had a great patron who knew his talent. Earlier with the conglomeration of money those that had the studio's ear could use the studio's money to make whatever their/their producer's vision come true. Cake gave an interview a few months ago for their latest self financed album and they were talking about how more and more of their musician friends are having to make music a part-time thing for them because they're just not getting enough money and they were worried that they'll have to too. I've always said your greatest strength is your greatest weakness, it's the same thing here. The greatest strength of the old model is that because there was a huge wall to get noticed by studios that (at best) kept out a lot of crap and it also meant that if you made it to the studio you'd have the resources to focus on music exclusively and to make whatever you/your producer imagined and make it a reality, further, since studios had their own set of producers and engineers you had all these really different kinds of people coming in and influencing music (again, at best for the better though it also failed several times). but the greatest weakness to that was a bunch of nepotism and a whole bunch very deserving talent was completely left out of the game entirely and it was terrible for consumers. The great thing about the new model is essentially everyone can partake if they want, it's great for the consumer. The bad stuff about it is that since there's no real bar for entry there's a lot more crap out there, and because the market is so democratized it's a lot harder for the artist to make it "big" and to have the resources to make whatever they want a reality (though technology will help, but you can't really replace the people factor). Further since this all "self-made" they're missing that eclectic outside voice and people get into a echo-chambers.I can sorta get this but at the same time before there was a bit of a wall of resources you had to overcome to get your music out there. Now there's a lot more music out there for everyone but the issue is the same as the publishing industry. Before, an album would be heavily produced and they'd run it through the ringer back and forth and sideways, and many times artists were told "Nah, that doesn't work so well, try it like this" (when you're an artist you need people to tell you when you stink) and when it worked well you had incredibly polished wonderful music. Now, any schmuck with enough money can have an "album" out there. and if they don't have someone that's an honest critic it all becomes unpolished and self indulgent. There is a lot of good talent out there that could be great if they had one of those more traditional big name producers.Controversial opinion:
The internet has ruined music. Good music is being made, no doubt. It always will be made. And the amazing thing about the internet is that you can go to previous era's, so that's a positive too and something no previous generations could have done, and it's something we must not take for granted. But even with the indie and lesser known acts included, I still find music of today to have less variety and more incomplete than what I listened to twenty years ago. One of the big problems is the death of the album. Albums just aren't that important in the grand scheme anymore, and are probably an outdated model. This leads to musicians concentrating their output on single tracks, but not cohesive albums that form the finality of the artists' message. The fact that you can just grab an album online for free or a track for 99 cents really contributed to this, and I'm not going to say I didn't do my part in contributing to this, but it still makes me sad. Oh well, farewell to an era.
It's like we're living in an age that has the possibility to bring about a new golden age of mainstream music, but we aren't going to get it because the game has changed so much. Like, there's a lot of great new musicians out there, but I'm not seeing any classic albums from them. It's like we're just flirting with potential, and I think this is true for all genres, except electronic because it somehow has managed to keep its underground status despite going more mainstream.
This probably isn't a controversial opinion. Just had to express it.
Nah, the music scene needed a kick in the ass after how bullshit it got from the mid 90's on. Especially how terribly run the business side of it was, still is and probably will be for a long time. The internet saved it if anything with bandcamp, itunes, spotify, etc. regardless how I find them to be for my own sake, give more options and more of an audience for everybody. Music has gotten more and more for niche audiences that exist, yes. But the variety is more than it has been in a while.
Problem some people have, which is completely understandable to me, is that there's a lot more effort involved in finding it. I honestly don't mind the effort considering the music I found. But in my honest opinion if you're not going to put effort into finding music today you can't really shit on an entire for music considering how much is out there and how much of it is good, could be good or could be bad in a good way.
Sure, but that issue isn't all and completely the entire industry. Not like said problems didn't exist before. An artist would get too big and nobody would tell him no. Now for you to stand out you have to be great, and especially great live cause that is now the biggest way to get money.
I won't act like the producers didn't help before and weren't at least partly responsible for some great stuff. But I also won't act like they didn't fuck up things either. Taking something about the older times being less important as the main reason music now is not good as *pick your favorite era here* is just a smarter way of saying "this is not the music that came out when I was a kid so it wasn't as good" IMO. Like when PD was talking about A&Rs.
Biggie=Guru >>>>>>>>>>>>Old school NAS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TUPAC>>>>>>>Any NAS after ether
Guys who earnestly play banjos (Mumford and Sons, Avett Brothers) are going to burn in hell for all of eternity for crimes against good tasteVictor Wooten plays bass in Béla Fleck's band. I haven't listened to many of their songs, but I think a big reason he's there is because the banjo gives his bass a LOT of room. :heh
Guys who earnestly play banjos (Mumford and Sons, Avett Brothers) are going to burn in hell for all of eternity for crimes against good tasteVictor Wooten plays bass in Béla Fleck's band. I haven't listened to many of their songs, but I think a big reason he's there is because the banjo gives his bass a LOT of room. :heh
Muse is probably the best rock band from 2001 to the present among rock bands who started in 2001 or later (not including metal here).
I know their name. Wooten is legit though.Guys who earnestly play banjos (Mumford and Sons, Avett Brothers) are going to burn in hell for all of eternity for crimes against good tasteVictor Wooten plays bass in Béla Fleck's band. I haven't listened to many of their songs, but I think a big reason he's there is because the banjo gives his bass a LOT of room. :heh
Hippie jam bands
:ufup
Dave Matthews Band was amazing for a good stretch of time. Before These Crowded Streets is a top 100 album.
Incubus is legit one of the best bands of all time.
Pearl Jam was awesome all the way through Yield.
I never really got David Bowie.
Joseph Haydn didn't write much of anything good.Agreed on all accounts. But without Haydn there would be no Mozart and when Mozart is on his game he's untouchable
Mozart wrote some real gems, but a lot of his output sounds kind of same-y. You can often predict exactly how he's going to resolve a melody, exactly which chord changes he's going to use, etc.
Saxophone shredding is boring. Cannonball Adderley and John Coltrane both did this too often.
Eric Clapton was never that great.
Jay Z has always been a ehh rapper
Nah. He's top tier in terms of skills/flow. Can't blame you if you've only heard famous album jay.
I dunno. To me it comes down to this:Joseph Haydn didn't write much of anything good.Agreed on all accounts. But without Haydn there would be no Mozart and when Mozart is on his game he's untouchable
Mozart wrote some real gems, but a lot of his output sounds kind of same-y. You can often predict exactly how he's going to resolve a melody, exactly which chord changes he's going to use, etc.
Saxophone shredding is boring. Cannonball Adderley and John Coltrane both did this too often.
Eric Clapton was never that great.
Okay, I don't know if this is controversial at all, but...
Peak Beethoven > Peak Mozart.
The Wall is one of the worst Pink Floyd albums (some really good individual cuts, but it actually sucks balls as one whole piece)
As a big Pink Floyd stan I agree with this completely, some really great songs but the entire album is full of padding and filler.
Quote- There hasn't been a decent alternative/rock/indie/whatever album in half a decade
fuck out of here
Titus Andronicus, the last 5 years, has written some of the best punk rock music in punk history. They got a sire in Diarrhea Planet, as well.
Good to see we agree Jay-Z has been trash for nearly a decade.
:win
Just like Nas. One good spot (American Gangster) sandwiched absolute garbage. Except Nas was also garbage from 1997-2000 :holeup
and then garbage again from 2002-2012 :holeup
beach bros.aka nobody :heh
Michael Jackson Bad as an album is better than Thriller, but no individual song on Bad lives up to Billie Jean or Human Nature. The song Thriller would be forgettable too if it wasn't for the incredible music video.
As often as people give nu metal shit (and for good reason), grunge was much worse. Once Nirvana and Soundgarden blew up, record companies basically signed any asshole from Seattle who wore flannel and had a heroin addiction. Most grunge from that era doesn't get played now. If you get an opportunity to watch Beavis and Butthead, complete with music video commentary, you will often hear some of it.
This is off base.Good to see we agree Jay-Z has been trash for nearly a decade.
:win
Just like Nas. One good spot (American Gangster) sandwiched absolute garbage. Except Nas was also garbage from 1997-2000 :holeup
and then garbage again from 2002-2012 :holeup
I love me some Off The Wall, but its style just isn't up my alley as much. Still an incredible album by any measure.Michael Jackson Bad as an album is better than Thriller, but no individual song on Bad lives up to Billie Jean or Human Nature. The song Thriller would be forgettable too if it wasn't for the incredible music video.
Off The Wall is the best MJ album.
Thriller (the song) isn't that good beyond the music video, agreed.
I don't think Bad is that great aside from some singles but it's been a while. I prefer Dangerous over Bad.
The second half of Thriller (album) is, next to Off The Wall, the watermark of Michael's career.
Lady in my Life is a top 5 best of all time album closer.
90% of shredding is just going fast. Anyone with patience and time can do it.WHERE IS THE CONTROVERSY HERE
Every movement spawns bad music though. In hindsight we look back and judge albums based on what happened afterwards, which isn't entirely fair.I agree with this 100%. My beef with grunge is that it sucks. Everything you just listed sans-AiC is garbage. Anthrax did grunge better than anyone out of Seattle.
Thrash Metal is my favorite genre. And it definitely ended up inspiring some of the worst cac whine, PG-13 metal out there.favorite genre is thrash metal
I love me some Off The Wall, but its style just isn't up my alley as much. Still an incredible album by any measure.Michael Jackson Bad as an album is better than Thriller, but no individual song on Bad lives up to Billie Jean or Human Nature. The song Thriller would be forgettable too if it wasn't for the incredible music video.
Off The Wall is the best MJ album.
Thriller (the song) isn't that good beyond the music video, agreed.
I don't think Bad is that great aside from some singles but it's been a while. I prefer Dangerous over Bad.
The second half of Thriller (album) is, next to Off The Wall, the watermark of Michael's career.
Lady in my Life is a top 5 best of all time album closer.
And yeah, agreed about the second half of Thriller. But there's SO many great songs on Bad.
1. Bad (Don't care for this at all really)
2. The Way You Make Me Feel (omg classic)
3. Speed Demon (omg awesome)
4. Liberian Girl (Good)
5. Just Good Friends (gag)
6. Another Part of Me (omg awesome)
7. Man in the Mirror (omg classic)
8. I Just Can't Stop Loving You (omg awesome)
9. Dirty Diana (omg awesome)
10. Smooth Criminal (omg classic)
11. Leave Me Alone (one of my favorite songs of all time)
It just feels like it has much more variety in styles. And MJ really started his persona with Bad. It was in full force throughout the album.
Dangerous is fucking great too though.
Those horns on Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' Oh lawd. So goodI love me some Off The Wall, but its style just isn't up my alley as much. Still an incredible album by any measure.Michael Jackson Bad as an album is better than Thriller, but no individual song on Bad lives up to Billie Jean or Human Nature. The song Thriller would be forgettable too if it wasn't for the incredible music video.
Off The Wall is the best MJ album.
Thriller (the song) isn't that good beyond the music video, agreed.
I don't think Bad is that great aside from some singles but it's been a while. I prefer Dangerous over Bad.
The second half of Thriller (album) is, next to Off The Wall, the watermark of Michael's career.
Lady in my Life is a top 5 best of all time album closer.
And yeah, agreed about the second half of Thriller. But there's SO many great songs on Bad.
1. Bad (Don't care for this at all really)
2. The Way You Make Me Feel (omg classic)
3. Speed Demon (omg awesome)
4. Liberian Girl (Good)
5. Just Good Friends (gag)
6. Another Part of Me (omg awesome)
7. Man in the Mirror (omg classic)
8. I Just Can't Stop Loving You (omg awesome)
9. Dirty Diana (omg awesome)
10. Smooth Criminal (omg classic)
11. Leave Me Alone (one of my favorite songs of all time)
It just feels like it has much more variety in styles. And MJ really started his persona with Bad. It was in full force throughout the album.
Dangerous is fucking great too though.
I don't like Bad (the song) much anymore.
But I can't disagree with that. Leave Me Alone is one of my faves too. I'll give it another listen. By all estimations, thriller wasn't full on pop. Neither was Off The Wall. They were rnb/funk in style. Bad is definitely where Michael opened up to more pop fare.
:tocry :mynicca my manguitarwork on Seasons is WAY less intricate than their previous LP's, I think the best moments on that one are when Lombardo's double bass gets into a groove with the riff, intro to Expendable Youth is some (http://www.dailyveritas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/impossibletoreplace.gif) shit
I think SitA and SoH are just not that interesting all the way through. I agree with you on the classics thing pretty much tho; they were one of those bands that ran the extreme metal gamut. I like Hell Awaits best because i think the songs are the best thought out overall. The guitar portions are well thought out.
nope MBDTF is fantastic
Queen is the Creed of the 70's. They only became cool because of Freddie's death.
Queen is the Creed of the 70's. They only became cool because of Freddie's death.
Angus is a great guitarist no doubt, but the band never appealed to me.
In fact, I really disliked a lot of what was coming out of rock around that time other than punk and what spawned from it.
Understood, I love that stuff too. I think what changed a lot of how I approached some of the most overplayed songs and bands in a more favorable view is the fact that I didn't have a lot of the exposure to them without it being of my choosing. I definitely heard about the bigger bands before, and I got to choose who I like and who I don't like, as well as songs I do like way before I moved here and realized how overplayed they are.
I love Freebird, mostly because I didn't hear a lick of it till I chose to when I was 15 and learning how to play guitar. Helps out a lot to also not have met crazy fanboys in the land without that many rock dustheads aside from my father who's usually just like "I like this and I don't like this" without force.
Might not have a bunch of classics
...yes? And Lemmy is the lead singer of Motorhead, so...not really a cover?
QuoteMight not have a bunch of classics
:what
- Highway to Hell
- TNT
- Hells Bells
- Thunderstruck
- Shook Me All Night Long
- Back in Black
- Shoot to Thrill
- Let There Be Rock
- Its a Long Way to the Top
- For Those About to Rock
- Dirty Deeds
well ok mrs. who the fuck is motorhead, telling me about motorhead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4wMn21DePs
Fucking gods of speed metal :rejoice
AC/DC most definitely has classics, you are a hater if you deny that. You can not like them or their music, but downplaying their best work? Nah.
Oh and Let There Be Rock is the best AC/DC album(I'm sure that would be considered controversial somewhere):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTUgGPUrDpE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUTtVGO10Y
QuoteMight not have a bunch of classics
:what
- Highway to Hell
- TNT
- Hells Bells
- Thunderstruck
- Shook Me All Night Long
- Back in Black
- Shoot to Thrill
- Let There Be Rock
- Its a Long Way to the Top
- For Those About to Rock
- Dirty Deeds
I'm talking about albums, not tracks. Obviously AC/DC has a shit ton of classic tracks...
ac/dc has always sucked regardless of "classic tracks" you stan for, ass-tier rock band.
Why do you say these things to me? When you know that I will kill you for it?
yeah they have some good chilljams.
however sublime fans are trashpersons. kind of people who listen to cypress hill.
ac/dc has always sucked regardless of "classic tracks" you stan for, ass-tier rock band. rather listen to Toto than that BS
also old Cher LPs have great production and songwriting.
yeah they have some good chilljams.lol
however sublime fans are trashpersons. kind of people who listen to cypress hill.
yeah they have some good chilljams.
however sublime fans are trashpersons. kind of people who listen to cypress hill.
Agree 100%, they always smell like weed and axe (to cover up the smell), wear shit clothes, and talk about getting high every 15 seconds.
yeah they have some good chilljams.
however sublime fans are trashpersons. kind of people who listen to cypress hill.
Agree 100%, they always smell like weed and axe (to cover up the smell), wear shit clothes, and talk about getting high every 15 seconds.
and are all in their 30s now, people who have been getting high to santeria for 16 years
yeah they have some good chilljams.
however sublime fans are trashpersons. kind of people who listen to cypress hill.
Agree 100%, they always smell like weed and axe (to cover up the smell), wear shit clothes, and talk about getting high every 15 seconds.
and are all in their 30s now, people who have been getting high to santeria for 16 years
And are straight up bums.
Hey man you got a smoke?
Hey man you got some smoke?
Hey man can you get my ins?
Hey man can you give me a ride?
Hey man can you get me a beer?
No fuckhole, you don't have tits, stop dry begging.
Show up to a bar, show, etc without any money brehs.
yeah they have some good chilljams.
however sublime fans are trashpersons. kind of people who listen to cypress hill.
Agree 100%, they always smell like weed and axe (to cover up the smell), wear shit clothes, and talk about getting high every 15 seconds.
and are all in their 30s now, people who have been getting high to santeria for 16 years
And are straight up bums.
Hey man you got a smoke?
Hey man you got some smoke?
Hey man can you get my ins?
Hey man can you give me a ride?
Hey man can you get me a beer?
No fuckhole, you don't have tits, stop dry begging.
Show up to a bar, show, etc without any money brehs.
whoa brah, neg vibes, harshing my mellow over here. you sound like you could use a chilljam and a open face turkey sandwich (http://cdn.meme.am/images/4168627.jpg)
I stayed at a hotel by a Phish show once. Fuck it all if it wasn't full of 30+ year old cacs showing up with no money for rooms, etc. Sucked. Caught one of those hippy shitfucks asking my son for money (my son was like 13 at the time)....I slammed him against the wall.
Stone Temple Pilots - Purple is one of the best albums of the 90s
Sonic Youth sucks dick.
I like Alice in Chains on a theoretical level (crunchy riffs and dope harmonizing) but listening to dirt is like watching your brother shoot up in an alley pissing himself. ain't nobody want to see that. nirvana was kind enough to keep it abstract and art-y with a dose of altpunk noise.
Sonic Youth sucks dick.
The W is Wu's best album.
Christmas music isn't that bad.
It's just that the good stuff (like Coventry Carol, Gabriel's message, etc) never gets much play.
The W is Wu's best album.
Renegades is my favorite Rage album, imo they were way better when Zack was just providing energy instead of writing and morello was allowed to just riff to his hearts content. Also, those albums are Loudness War'd to fuck, which I'm guessing is Rubins influenceAudioslave's self-titled is better than anything Rage produced
The guitar work in this is the best thing Tom Morello ever did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzRbeHyIomk
Gets incredibly epic towards the end.
Oh I really do like pretty much everything AiC has done, I just can't listen to it, it puts me in a dark mood long after I hit stop. Maybe that's a testament to how real it is, I dunno. Junkhead is one of the worst-best songs I've ever heard, if that makes sense. Since I'm a nirvana stanley I guess a comparison in my mind would be listening to All Apologies on repeat for an hour.I like Alice in Chains on a theoretical level (crunchy riffs and dope harmonizing) but listening to dirt is like watching your brother shoot up in an alley pissing himself. ain't nobody want to see that. nirvana was kind enough to keep it abstract and art-y with a dose of altpunk noise.
What do you think of Jar of Flies?
That one gets me from beginning to end.
Also, Radiohead lacking swag is kind of the point. Thom Yorke's self-loathing is a big part of what elevates that band to elite-tier.
Again though: seeing them live changes things. Watch them bang out Myxomatosis and tell me they don't have power, at least.
By far the most swagless band I've ever seen live is Vampire Weekend (they were at Coachella and didn't conflict with another band I was interested in, so I went).
You might as well have played their cd over the PA system and set up cardboard cutouts of the band members.
Adam's Song by Blink 182 probably has a higher death toll, TBH.Genuinely controversial opinion: people who are musicians have shitty musical taste, as they will routinely conflate difficulty with something worth listening to. This explains prog rock.
If I had ever been infused with gamma radiation, this post would have turned me into a Hulk. Hate.
Adam's Song by Blink 182 probably has a higher death toll, TBH.Dude is IMMENSELY right.Genuinely controversial opinion: people who are musicians have shitty musical taste, as they will routinely conflate difficulty with something worth listening to. This explains prog rock.
If I had ever been infused with gamma radiation, this post would have turned me into a Hulk. Hate.
Genuinely controversial opinion: people who are musicians have shitty musical taste, as they will routinely conflate difficulty with something worth listening to. This explains prog rock.
The W is Wu's best album.
Genuinely controversial opinion: people who are musicians have shitty musical taste, as they will routinely conflate difficulty with something worth listening to. This explains prog rock.It perfectly explains wank of all kinds. One of the few things I've learned playing an instrument is that time dialation alone accounts for a lot of what people think is "taste". Anything can get filtered out like traffic noise if you're not used to the sound.
Hell, I'd expand it to nearly everything except classical or jazzLook for "technical" stuff in rock brehs.
You willing to expand this ether to the blues in general or nah?
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dream theater is the squarepusher of rock music.B-but I fucking love Squarepusher. :gloomy
the Amen Break is the greatest 6 seconds of recorded musicgreatest? No. Most influential? Probably.
the Amen Break is the greatest 6 seconds of recorded musicgreatest? No. Most influential? Probably.
Dirty, amen heavy dnb
:lawd
Didn't the guitar kill the lute?Yeah, my point is that the lute died because it was too hard to play and the guitar just did it better.
Didn't the guitar kill the lute?Yeah, my point is that the lute died because it was too hard to play and the guitar just did it better.
The harp is sorta in the same boat. It's too hard to tune and too hard to play and the piano just does it better. The only thing that it does well that other stuff can't do easier and better is those wide sweeping arpeggiated runs, but only that.
Beethoven > Mozart all day erryday for me. Most people tend to remember him for the 9th and 5th symphonies but I'd put the 7th right up there, and his concertos (esp. piano) are top notch. Dude was a genius but not as much as...I don't think anyone has ever mastered the intricacies of music like Bach did. Though Beethoven stabs at your soul with music.
Bach. Who was probably an alien from a highly advanced future society that came to earth to advance music. That's literally a plausible explanation.
minimal odb presence, abstract start-stop song structure. dat gza freestyle that just pops in at the end of conditioner.
The W is Wu's best album.
Worse post in this thread, next to the jazz hate.
The amount of stuff I'd rather listen to than the Beatles is pretty staggering.
Steve Contra has the worst taste on this board, about a great many things, and it isn't even close.Add Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd to that shit too. All garbage tier rock.
Well I guess it is close. If you weren't a former NFL player I would hunt you down as well. :maf
:interracialSteve Contra has the worst taste on this board, about a great many things, and it isn't even close.Add Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd to that shit too. All garbage tier rock.
Well I guess it is close. If you weren't a former NFL player I would hunt you down as well. :maf
I didn't grow up with that shit. I grew up with James Brown, Sly and the Family Stone, Barry White, etc.
-M83 sucks:mynicca
Motown :lawd
Back when you get on the radio by actually being a good singer :fbm
At least white people got David Bowie I guess :fbm
At least white people got David Bowie I guess :fbm
Only after courting him for a few years.At least white people got David Bowie I guess :fbm
Nah, you guys got 1/2 of Michael Jackson too.
...can we not have Elvis?
on the topic of niche techno, as much as it pains me to say, most/all of tigerbeat6's artist lineup was mad overrated in the early 00s. does anyone care about blechdom anything or cex now? lolno.
Led Zeppelin is good, though I think all their albums are marred by 2 or 3 bad tracks, except maybe Houses of the Holy. Floyd is great, provided it's pre Wall.
With III I definitely agree with you.
IV has Four Sticks, which was a good idea in execution and has that really good middle section, but doesn't quite come together as a full song.
Physical Graffiti has most of the back half of Disc 2.
With II, I think it depends on how you feel about Thank You and Living Loving Maid. I personally love both tracks, although I could do without Thank You's chorus. Tbh, I only really like that song because of the acoustic guitar solo and the keyboard work.
It ain't really controversial to say you don't like the Beatles though, they're so universally played and present in real life that all they get is backlash on the internet, they won too much :yeshrugI'm not saying The Beatles are bad, just there's a lot better out there. No matter how many times I qualify this Glen Shinobi still gets mad though :neogaf
A controversial opinion here would be to say Radiohead is an average band, or that Daft Punk arent anything special.
Time will reveal squarepusher and flylo to be overrated, just like it did venetian snares :yeshrug
i dunno i think blvck metal drone has some brown crossover appeal*, while only suburban college cacs are into chromeo, either ironically or sincerely.chromeo is the whitest electronic music of all time :heh
Nope.
Cant outwhite ambient side projects from black metal bands, or drone. The latter usually has no beats. Just vwoooooooooooom
:heh
Also, Funeral and The Suburbs are fucking amazing.
Not a huge fan of Neon Bible with the exception of No Cars Go (which is one of my favorite songs ever). Reflektor... still haven't formed an opinion on it.
using "listenable" to describe AJFA... :stopitslime:what
Sure but it has great songs. Who cares.
I didn't say Load was better. I said it was a more consistent album.
:whatI mean listenable as in "easy to listen to," not derogatorily; AJFA is by far and away their densest release. fwiw, Frayed Ends is my fave track on the album and one of my favorite Metallica tracks period
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNk7OM5OypE
I enjoy the title track and Some Kind Of Monster on some guilty pleasure steez. But Frantic :ufupthis is pretty much exactly where I stand too, but my friends and I had so much fun yelling FRAN TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TOCK in high school that I'm indifferent towards it these days
Sad But True and Wherever I May Roam are some killer tracks though. Up there with anything they've done.I forgot to address this, Sad But True is exactly what I mean when I say Ur-Nickelback. shit is by the numbers downtuned riffage wank that has no purpose outside of inducing cockrock impulses. From a Pantera stanley, that shit is garbage
Nickelback covered Sad But True [sic]this is another thing, Metlicca is the benchmark for accessibility vs integrity in the rock music industry and their level of subliminal osmosis in caculture is staggering. Fucking Billy Joel riffs Master of Puppets from time to time in live sets
Oh look, it's me, jake and Esch sperging about metal again.Well, since you mentioned it:
Classical music isn't that great. The classical station here is the worst radio station and it replaced the badass KTRU which would play Afro beat and reggae on Saturdays.Give piazzolla a whirl you'll probably like it
Fuck classical outside of composers like Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart;etc I can fuck with some modern classical like Philip Glass, but it's really not my genre and I'd just rather listen to jazz or electronic.
How can you like Celtic Frost, and not like Hellhammer?I just conflated Hellhammer and Hammerheart (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lupe1.png)
Nile? (http://i.imgur.com/NsARqvd.png)I'm so glad you brought this up
Most overrated metal artist of all time is Devin Townsend, and all Devin Townsend related things. If i had a nickel for every time some crusty ass barnacle recommended me this bullshitYeah, but he made this...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm7qQlWmMEc
Metal is trash music(http://i.imgur.com/Ap88Wsq.png)
:ufup
chromeo is the whitest electronic music of all time :heh
even whiter than whatever kompakt and m-nus are shitting out now :heh
Alexi Laiho 's vocals sound like Timmy from South Parkcontrovershul: I think him and Children of Bodom are a bit overhated on. yeah it's corny, but if you can honest to goodness listen to folk metal like Ensiferum just for some crunchy riffs, this is pretty much the same thing with some fun guitar work. I decided to randomly fire up Follow the Reaper and it wasn't as 'bad' as I remember. It's basically video game music sensu melodic death metal with some power metal thrown in. totally harmless.
Never got the concept of "stoner metal."it's really just heavy blues riffing and atmosphere
Thoughts on Doom metal in general? Which bands are best? Some recommendations I've seen are Candlemass, Pagan Altar, St Vitus, and My Dying Bride. Are those good places to start?
Christmas music isn't that bad.
It's just that the good stuff (like Coventry Carol, Gabriel's message, etc) never gets much play.
:ufup
There are exactly 3 Christmas related things worth listening to: the Peanuts holiday album, Fairy Tale of New York from the Pogues and Kirsty MacColl, and Rufus Wainwright's Spotlight on Christmas. Everything else is rubbish.
Buddy guy best guitarist ever :sabu
Hey man Third Eye Blind is just as good as Sublime
:hitler
Hey man Third Eye Blind is just as good as Sublime
:hitler
Semi-charmed Kinda Life is actually a great fucking song :leon
Jimi is a better singer than Buddy, but as a Guitar Player?Buddy doesn't have anything out there as imaginative as Machine Gun.
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Jimi never had anything as raw as thisWe're going to have to agree to disagree here. Buddy took what was already there and did it better. Jimi created a.whole new horizon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_rd8y8A2oE
I also don't think you realize how close of friends the two of them became. They both took turns calling each other the best guitar player they had ever seen. When Jimi died, Buddy was deeply affected.
Papa Roach got big off of a riff that was literally a dumbed-down version of Hallowed Be Thy Name.easily the most derivative one-hit wonder to come out of that scene. they weren't important to their genre like the other bands listed; I wanted to post a Lil B "Game, you irrelevant" smiley but I couldn't find one
I can still listen to Godsmack every now and then. They're alright.hence the Ahmadinejad
Linkin Park is the definition of (http://i.imgur.com/QkqAYyB.png)and I'm so uncomfortable admitting it. When it comes down to it, their first two are solid pop-rock albums, period.
There was some real talent behind Hybrid Theory, I still listen to that record a lot. I chalked it up to nostalgia for a long time but nah, it just has some really strong elements to it.
Every Linkin Park song:
Piano melody > "heavy" rock out > Chester what's his face sings a verse > Chorus made to be annoyingly catchy > rap verse > chorus again > half song/half rap verse, can also be a back and forth > chorus > "heavy" rock out again > piano melody plays as the song ends the same way it began.
Add in "my mom doesn't give me what I want" lyrics, and you have a Linkin Park song. Yeah, strong elements :lol
Every Linkin Park song:
Piano melody > "heavy" rock out > Chester what's his face sings a verse > Chorus made to be annoyingly catchy > rap verse > chorus again > half song/half rap verse, can also be a back and forth > chorus > "heavy" rock out again > piano melody plays as the song ends the same way it began.
Add in "my mom doesn't give me what I want" lyrics, and you have a Linkin Park song. Yeah, strong elements :lol
Are we all forgetting about Down In It? Trent rapped too. :-[
on that note, I don't think good music expires, I just get sick of it or get hung up on negatives without considering the context.
Saying something is "out of date" is ironic because the person who says this is trying to sound authoritative, yet they seem to discount music from the past completely.
yeah, calling something dated instead of evaluating it on it's own merit always gets an eyeroll from me.
neo-soul sucks
garbage genre
weak song structure
lack of memorable songs
lack of ideas
Your Old Droog EP > Life is Good.
The former isn't nearly as ambitious, but it's a lot more successful at the lane it stays in. What Droog lacks in scope, he makes up for in his wordplay density. Seriously the bar:punchline ratio here is :whew LiG has a couple of great songs but I just don't find it as sonically pleasing so it's much less re-playable for me. I also think Daughters is kind of corny. Chorus is trash too.
Meh, I'd say Life Is Good is a lot better than Your Old Droog EP. The highs (Locomotive, Back When, Bye Baby especially) are simply better than anything on the EP.
You can totally listen and enjoy Pet Shop Boys and not be gay.
Right? Right?
Most swagless bands of all time (http://i.imgur.com/NsARqvd.png)
1) Dream Theater
2) Rush
3) Creed
4) Jethro Tull
5) ICP
6) The Dillinger Escape Plan
7) Radiohead
8 ) Muse
9) Coheed and Cambria
10) Rhapsody of Fire
Runners-up: Say Anything, Xasthur, Boston, Trivium, Sum 41, Between the Buried and Me, Journey
You can totally listen and enjoy Pet Shop Boys and not be gay.
Right? Right?