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Title: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Eschaton on December 23, 2014, 09:31:28 PM
Been wondering if I should give it a go :yeshrug
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 23, 2014, 09:36:44 PM
It has its moments.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 23, 2014, 09:40:39 PM
Are you a privileged white male that likes laughing at your moral/intellectual inferiors?  :hitler
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: octopushover on December 23, 2014, 09:41:36 PM
If you're willing to suspend your disbelief that Maya Rudolph is a prostitute.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: toku on December 23, 2014, 09:43:00 PM
No. Just like everything else.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 23, 2014, 09:51:54 PM
It has some good ideas and funny lines but ultimately the execution is not all there, sadly.

Worth it for President Camacho, tho

(http://i.imgur.com/SC7Bj0f.gif)
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: team filler on December 23, 2014, 09:59:44 PM
it's actually a horror movie
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: StealthFan on December 23, 2014, 10:02:31 PM
college feggits that go to indie shows love it. It's for fucktards. Maya Rudolph actually looks good in this tho, and the "It's what plants crave" was funny.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: archie4208 on December 23, 2014, 10:05:49 PM
Do you have a fedora you can tip?
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2014, 10:10:07 PM
Is this a real question? :mindblown

Edit- It's not amazing or anything but it still has a lot of great moments.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: dkdk on December 23, 2014, 10:15:41 PM
nah but it's dumb as fuck in a good way
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Cheddahz on December 23, 2014, 10:20:40 PM
(http://www.aux.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/23.gif)
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on December 23, 2014, 10:23:08 PM
welcome to Costco...I love you
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: headwalk on December 23, 2014, 10:49:32 PM
it's one of those films that you'll enjoy a lot more if you just watch it instead of reading about it on the internet.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: chronovore on December 23, 2014, 11:10:59 PM
JUST WATCH IT.

It’s 90 minutes of hit-or-miss, with the hits having some decent resonance.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 24, 2014, 01:09:19 AM
Windows Fedora Foundation
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: StealthFan on December 24, 2014, 01:27:46 AM
but but but its just like real life those dumb fucking jocks ya know LOLAMIRITE
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 24, 2014, 01:44:00 AM
Sorry, I buy it. People continue to get dumber. Maybe it's delivered ham-handedly but it's a solid enough premise. Go out and interact with fucking humanity for a day and tell me you DIDN'T want to commit fucking murder. I don't buy it.

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Besides, the opening couple minutes have one of my favorite lines of any movie ever... "You see, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square..."
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Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 24, 2014, 01:47:18 AM
Yeah, let's just be all touchy feely up with people kumbaya up in here and ignore that the world is full of people who have problems pouring piss out of a boot if the directions were on the heel, brehs

:yeshrug

I stick by everything I've ever said about kids, too. They're gross, and the act of bringing a child into this world is one of the more selfish things you can do. Adopt if it's that important to you. Overpopulation is a thing, just saying.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 24, 2014, 01:58:46 AM
I have and always will cop to being what I describe as "an abstract humanist and a concrete psychopath." Basically, I am all for policies and programs that will benefit the most people, especially those most disadvantaged in society... but in my personal life, if you can't fucking do everything right I will tire of you within five minutes and sit there and imagine you being fed into a wood chipper. I feel that way towards about 95% of people I have to interact with, including family members and significant others.

Yeah, I should probably get that looked at.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2014, 01:59:00 AM
:kobeyuck Rethinking my fondness for this movie now
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 24, 2014, 01:59:51 AM
:kobeyuck Rethinking my fondness for this movie now

Woodchipper is FULL of Nintendo fans, Andy

:phil
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2014, 02:21:38 AM
Maybe andrex is a bigger psycho than I thought.

:ohhh

That reminds me of my favorite movie ever, Fight Club. That movie was so right about corporate America and rabid consumerism. Fight the system brehs! (http://i.imgur.com/z7F4jYO.png)
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Trent Dole on December 24, 2014, 02:40:36 AM
Idiocracy is worth seeing
...brought to you buy Carl's Jr.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 24, 2014, 03:08:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: king of the internet on December 24, 2014, 03:15:45 AM
It's got some really funny parts. Just watch it.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: benjipwns on December 24, 2014, 04:42:27 AM
Extract is the better movie, there I said it. (And The Goode Family was epic, butthurt over it from people who watched ten minutes was glorious. Especially since the show, like KOTH, was ultimately sympathetic to its characters while poking at their ways and views.)
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Besides, the opening couple minutes have one of my favorite lines of any movie ever... "You see, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square..."
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Since you already took my most used line from the movie. "Which he spells thusly. With two D's as he says for a double dose of his pimping."

(That whole presentation and slideshow is maybe the best full scene of the movie.)

Second most used is probably: "And the UN, UN-Nazied the world. Forever." (I like gags about the past/present in future-set things, like Futurama's many versions of it.)

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Plus Upgrayedd did come after Rita, like she said he would.
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Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Oblivion on December 24, 2014, 05:03:56 AM
I enjoyed it overall. My biggest problem was that some things didn't make any sense. If no one in the future is smarter than the main character, how were corporations like Brawndo operating? And who were the business folk who were paying everyone?

Aside from that, it was pretty funny. I disagree with Esch about that opening part. In fact, almost all scenes involving the narrator were great, imo.

"And the number one movie in the country was called 'Ass'. And that's all it was. For 90 minutes. It won 8 Oscars that year.  Including best screenplay."

Also, the lead chick has a great rack.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: WanderingWind on December 24, 2014, 05:07:10 AM
It was a funny movie. If you're trying to find deep and meaningful societal commentary from the guy who made Beavis & Butthead, you're probably fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: benjipwns on December 24, 2014, 05:12:24 AM
I enjoyed it overall. My biggest problem was that some things didn't make any sense. If no one in the future is smarter than the main character, how were corporations like Brawndo operating? And who were the business folk who were paying everyone?
They kinda explained it as the corporations and stuff had all pretty much automated near everything at some point which is why throughout the entire movie Not-Sure is shoved into machines and the "idiots" just do whatever it says. But maintenance is poor as every place is dirty and the system easily thwarted by the semi-competent.

You see that when after they switch the plants to water, the Brawndo CEO calls in freaking out because the company has lost its marketshare and the computers automatically laid off half the country or something. And he can't do shit about it.

It was a funny movie. If you're trying to find deep and meaningful societal commentary from the guy who made Beavis & Butthead, you're probably fucking stupid.
Judge and other KOTH alum like Greg Daniels (Parks and Rec) are better at subtle little pokes at common absurdities, rather than laying out some kind of grand treatise, something South Park was once more adept at doing.

I think Idiocracy was in some ways just using the "theory" to setup the premise to sell all their jokes. Office Space is similar. Even Beavis and Butthead and Silicon Valley are like this.

Extract suffers in terms of cult popularity because it doesn't have any broad premises (people are idiots, meaningless jobs suck, propane rules, etc.) for anyone to latch onto. And all the main characters aren't exactly sympathetic let alone champions not even the workers.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: mormapope on December 24, 2014, 05:28:37 AM
Beavis and Butthead will always be Mike Judge's best work.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Eric P on December 24, 2014, 05:32:59 AM
it's Atlas Shrugged for liberals
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Oblivion on December 24, 2014, 05:42:15 AM
it's Atlas Shrugged for liberals

 :ufup
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: benjipwns on December 24, 2014, 05:48:20 AM
The only reason it was paraded around the internet as a classic is because it resonated with the "truly euphoric" subsets for so long.
Plus the way Fox treated it.

I love Beavis and Butthead, but I think King Of The Hill is his best work.
:mynicca
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: WanderingWind on December 24, 2014, 05:49:12 AM
Quote from: Death Ghidorah [/quote

It was a funny movie. If you're trying to find deep and meaningful societal commentary from the guy who made Beavis & Butthead, you're probably fucking stupid.

That's kind of hard to avoid when the beginning of the movie sets itself up as a societal parody, not to mention it being praised as much by it's fans.

I find it to be a misstep on Judge's part. Overall, I love the rest of his work. So I don't really care about Idiocracy in the grand scheme of things, it was what it was.

It's not hard to avoid. It's a comedy. Comedy trades on absurdity. Once again, the people who look at a comedy and then extrapolate deep, serious meaning from absurd situations that are designed to elicit laughs are really, truly, deeply fucking dumb. Just pants-on-head-stupid. There is a difference between laughing and thinking "Wow, that sort of has a point" and the legion of fuckwits who probably still struggle with remembering to breath who think "Oh, my god, this is so deep. Yes, society really is getting dumberer."

These are the same sort of dipshits who bug Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert to run for public office.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: WanderingWind on December 24, 2014, 06:32:58 AM
Quote from: Death Ghidorah [/quote

It was a funny movie. If you're trying to find deep and meaningful societal commentary from the guy who made Beavis & Butthead, you're probably fucking stupid.

That's kind of hard to avoid when the beginning of the movie sets itself up as a societal parody, not to mention it being praised as much by it's fans.

I find it to be a misstep on Judge's part. Overall, I love the rest of his work. So I don't really care about Idiocracy in the grand scheme of things, it was what it was.

It's not hard to avoid. It's a comedy. Comedy trades on absurdity. Once again, the people who look at a comedy and then extrapolate deep, serious meaning from absurd situations that are designed to elicit laughs are really, truly, deeply fucking dumb. Just pants-on-head-stupid. There is a difference between laughing and thinking "Wow, that sort of has a point" and the legion of fuckwits who probably still struggle with remembering to breath who think "Oh, my god, this is so deep. Yes, society really is getting dumberer."

These are the same sort of dipshits who bug Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert to run for public office.

You're kind of going in hard on this one. All I said was I don't find it that funny and I find a lot of where the comedy comes from to be eye rolling. That's hardly calling it horrible or one of the worst movies ever. Yeah, I guess you can avoid the ridiculous cult fan base the movie has, but that doesn't change the fact that you can find a lot of it annoyingly pretentious either way.

Sorry that a personal opinion got you angry. I didn't think it was funny and the absurdity in it wasn't some thing I enjoyed.

Uh. Who cares if you find it unfunny/funny? I thought it had some laughs, but I'm talking about the weird little cultists that sprung up around the movie. Nobody's mad, chief. Stow that shit.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Eric P on December 24, 2014, 08:29:18 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/idiocracy.png)

for maximum special fellow
http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Talk:603:_Idiocracy
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Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 24, 2014, 09:11:09 AM
That feel when you realize you just used an XKCD comic to decry smug superiority.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Rufus on December 24, 2014, 09:20:06 AM
XKCD guy always comes off pretty genuine to me.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Eric P on December 24, 2014, 10:04:48 AM
Yeah I'd say painfully earnest more so than smugly superior
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Steve Youngblood on December 24, 2014, 10:11:55 AM
It's got some good bits, but it's certainly not a great movie. Worth a watch if you stumble upon it and are in the mood for a silly comedy, but not something I'd recommend someone go out of their way to watch.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: nudemacusers on December 24, 2014, 10:17:02 AM
as others have said, the premise is neat but also kinda fedora-y (especially in retrospect), but the movie just kinda flatlines and is just another comedy film that comprised of skit-length ideas mashed into a narrative.


also king of the hill is his best all around work. silicon valley might be up there but time will tell.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 24, 2014, 10:31:24 AM
My personal theory on Idiocracy is that Mike Judge had a bunch of funny ideas about the downfall of society but had no idea how to execute them in movie form.  If he were to make the execution better, he probably would have had to change or remove a bunch of shit and he wasn't willing to do that either.  So he kind of said "fuck it."

A lot of funny premises but the movie is kind of weak overall.  Three fedoras out of five.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Steve Contra on December 24, 2014, 12:35:59 PM
Problematic movie with some really good bits and visual gags.  Welcome to 2006, we've had this discussion before.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2014, 12:58:44 PM
Yeah, King of the Hill is easily their best. Ended at a good point too.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Trent Dole on December 24, 2014, 01:19:41 PM
People that like King of the Hill best are wrong. :gun
Or maybe just southern. :heart
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 24, 2014, 01:51:12 PM
You're going at this all wrong- don't make it a punitive thing. We need to try INCENTIVE BASED EUGENICS.

"Hey buddy, how'd you like... to go CROSSBOW HUNTING WITH TED NUGENT??? Alls ya gotta do is let us cut your balls off."
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Steve Contra on December 24, 2014, 01:55:58 PM
Idiocracy works much better when it goes in on corporate branding rather than the HURR HURR LOOK AT THE DUMBS premise.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 24, 2014, 02:02:13 PM
Agreed. I still feel bad for people in movies when they're being made fun of, even if they're comically stupid.

I kind of wish that a movie would examine the idea that technology allowing so many billions of people to be alive at once is kind of, you know, ultimately bad.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Steve Contra on December 24, 2014, 02:17:48 PM
Also real talk, the movie belongs to Terry Crews.  One of the best comedic performances ever.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 24, 2014, 02:29:41 PM
Don't come crying to me when the water riots start and there's too many people for not enough resources

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2014, 02:44:11 PM
Water riots ???

The world isn't going to turn into Mad Max yo :neogaf
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Steve Contra on December 24, 2014, 02:49:01 PM
Yeah with sea lever rise it'll be more like Waterworld :ufup
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: nudemacusers on December 24, 2014, 02:59:50 PM
breh, all the mouthbreathing rednecks living in their dirt huts will eat our soft city bodies as an appetizer when the comets strike.

Except mine of course, since I will gladly offer up my orifices as a fuck/piss/shit/fist/foothole to stay alive.  :-*
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: king of the internet on December 24, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
breh, all the mouthbreathing rednecks living in their dirt huts will eat our soft city bodies as an appetizer when the comets strike.

Except mine of course, since I will gladly offer up my orifices as a fuck/piss/shit/fist/foothole to stay alive.  :-*

We won't need you to be alive for that.  :phil
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: WanderingWind on December 24, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
It was a funny movie.

It wasn't really though. A lot of the humor is just lame back patting  'look at how dumb these people are' peoplewatch fare.

There are some moments (everything involving Brawndo or the president for example) but a lot of it falls flat. Not just because of the fedora content but the delivery is rarely great either.

I liked Extract better :yeshrug

I dunno. Nothing to really argue with except for "I laughed." Everybody in the movie is dumb ass hell and things like Dumb & Dumber and this make me giggle. It's not highbrow humor like Stranglove or even smart dumb like Lebowski, but it was funny.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2014, 04:27:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/LpHSjRI.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Oblivion on December 24, 2014, 05:01:00 PM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/idiocracy.png)

for maximum special fellow
http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Talk:603:_Idiocracy
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"Eric P tried to dissuade the denizens of Evilbore from thinking Idiocracy was anything more than a mediocre film. Although he was able to understand them, when he tried to speak to them by posting high-brow web comics, he came off as pompous and faggy."
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 24, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
Here's the problem with Idiocracy:

Someone still makes cars. Designs them, builds them, ships them. Someone still designs stores and buildings, and runs the factories that fill the stores and buildings with products. Someone still designs and makes clothing. Someone still creates and produces television shows and movies.  On and on, etc, etc.  Now, they may do all these things poorly, but they still do them. I don't know about you, but I can't do any of that, even poorly.

So in this futuristic world populated entirely by mouth-breathing morons, there are still vast amounts of the population

smarter than me
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Oblivion on December 24, 2014, 07:54:28 PM
Here's the problem with Idiocracy:

Someone still makes cars. Designs them, builds them, ships them. Someone still designs stores and buildings, and runs the factories that fill the stores and buildings with products. Someone still designs and makes clothing. Someone still creates and produces television shows and movies.  On and on, etc, etc.  Now, they may do all these things poorly, but they still do them. I don't know about you, but I can't do any of that, even poorly.

So in this futuristic world populated entirely by mouth-breathing morons, there are still vast amounts of the population

smarter than me

Yes, this is exactly what I meant. benji explained a few things, but other stuff like this is still unanswered.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 24, 2014, 08:00:00 PM
I didn't read that far

I belong in Idiocracy :(
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: TVC15 on December 24, 2014, 08:43:40 PM
I love you, Eel!
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Trent Dole on December 25, 2014, 03:21:39 AM
It's just a satirical dumb thing by the guy that made Beavis and Butt-head, you're all over thinking it WAY too much.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Yeti on December 25, 2014, 10:06:05 AM
If you're wondering how they eat and breathe and other science facts, just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax"
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Trent Dole on December 25, 2014, 12:04:29 PM
Hah, I very nearly included those lines in my post. :-*
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: EvilLore Killah on December 25, 2014, 03:58:05 PM
Never knew so much people were butthurt over Idiocracy.

Movie must struck a nerve with them & they don't like the truth being told to them :/

Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 26, 2014, 09:56:50 AM
I found those opening minutes hilarious.

I'll just be blunt here and say that no one on The Bore is surprised by this revelation.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: octopushover on December 26, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
Here's the problem with Idiocracy:

Someone still makes cars. Designs them, builds them, ships them. Someone still designs stores and buildings, and runs the factories that fill the stores and buildings with products. Someone still designs and makes clothing. Someone still creates and produces television shows and movies.  On and on, etc, etc.  Now, they may do all these things poorly, but they still do them. I don't know about you, but I can't do any of that, even poorly.

So in this futuristic world populated entirely by mouth-breathing morons, there are still vast amounts of the population

smarter than me

the jokes on you, it's actually just america that's gotten dumber. everyone else just tolerates the big country of idiots like a cousin who wants to play bomberman so you give them a controller that isn't plugged in and tell them they're the blue guy.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Mupepe on December 26, 2014, 01:27:02 PM
I've never seen this movie but did you just insult Mr Gundam? I can't fathom why anyone would be compelled to do that.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Mupepe on December 26, 2014, 01:33:14 PM
Oh ok
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: benjipwns on December 27, 2014, 02:47:51 AM
Idiocracy works much better when it goes in on corporate branding rather than the HURR HURR LOOK AT THE DUMBS premise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf2JVIdh2eU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxoiOJ280LI
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: tiesto on December 27, 2014, 12:42:19 PM
Here's the problem with Idiocracy:

Someone still makes cars. Designs them, builds them, ships them. Someone still designs stores and buildings, and runs the factories that fill the stores and buildings with products. Someone still designs and makes clothing. Someone still creates and produces television shows and movies.  On and on, etc, etc.  Now, they may do all these things poorly, but they still do them. I don't know about you, but I can't do any of that, even poorly.

So in this futuristic world populated entirely by mouth-breathing morons, there are still vast amounts of the population

smarter than me

It's been a while since I've seen it, but wasn't it explained that robots were designed in previous centuries to handle industrial production?
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 27, 2014, 08:39:06 PM
Well I don't believe it takes any special talent to find that scene funny. I kind of think it takes a special effort not to find the rapidly multiplying rednecks and the plight of the professional couple hilarious. I'm guessing Esch knows some rednecks like that and got offended on a personal level, or he just hates fun like terrisus or Mr Gundam.

Or perhaps I find it a  ::) ::) ::) ::) worthy blend of fedora elitism and bitchmade nebulous pearl clutching :yeshrug

To be fair, Idiocracy is a pretty good zeitgeist of what was going on.  2006 was the year when The God Delusion came out, An Inconvenient Truth came out, anti-gay Republicans kept getting busted for doing gay things, Ted Haggard got busted for using meth and seeking "companionship" with gay hookers, and it seemed like Richard Dawkins was running around everywhere.  It was a pretty big year for reddit/fedora style atheism and generally being a smug prick about things.  Naturally, Idiocracy wasn't just whipped up for this occasion, everything seemed to have coincided with this particular year for some reason.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 27, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
haven't seen it
:smug

King Of The Hill is dope tho
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: chronovore on December 28, 2014, 03:01:27 AM
George W Bush had won reelection just two years before, for some added context.

I could not fucking believe it when the Shrub was re-elected. I was just dumbfounded, and felt utterly out of touch with my country.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Positive Touch on December 28, 2014, 03:31:57 AM
I felt then kinda like I have in the last six months of this year: that I'm surrounded by people with severely fucked-up worldviews who'll grab on to any excuse possible to not care about their neighbors. just scary and sad.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 24, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2vCY3h_Gso&t=1h31m11s

In case anyone still cares anymore, Marc Maron recently interviewed Mike Judge where he discussed how he came up with the idea for the movie.  It starts at 1:31:11 if it doesn't go right to that point from the link.

Well I don't believe it takes any special talent to find that scene funny. I kind of think it takes a special effort not to find the rapidly multiplying rednecks and the plight of the professional couple hilarious. I'm guessing Esch knows some rednecks like that and got offended on a personal level, or he just hates fun like terrisus or Mr Gundam.

Or perhaps I find it a  ::) ::) ::) ::) worthy blend of fedora elitism and bitchmade nebulous pearl clutching :yeshrug

To be fair, Idiocracy is a pretty good zeitgeist of what was going on.  2006 was the year when The God Delusion came out, An Inconvenient Truth came out, anti-gay Republicans kept getting busted for doing gay things, Ted Haggard got busted for using meth and seeking "companionship" with gay hookers, and it seemed like Richard Dawkins was running around everywhere.  It was a pretty big year for reddit/fedora style atheism and generally being a smug prick about things.  Naturally, Idiocracy wasn't just whipped up for this occasion, everything seemed to have coincided with this particular year for some reason.

I forgot to include V for Vendetta, which you could argue is peak fedora.  2006 was a big year for :smug
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: fizzel on January 24, 2015, 09:13:51 PM
The premise of the film falls apart at the first scene, implying the barren liberals who gave away their civilisation to beavis and butthead were the intelligent ones.
Title: Re: Is Idiocracy actually good?
Post by: chronovore on January 24, 2015, 09:16:27 PM
We liberals are excellent at thinking ourselves out of relevancy.