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Title: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on March 17, 2015, 06:14:33 PM
GET

HYPE

(http://media.obsidian.net/eternity/media/screenshots/20150313/poe-engwithan-01.jpg)

(http://media.obsidian.net/eternity/media/screenshots/20150313/poe-engwithan-02.jpg)

(http://media.obsidian.net/eternity/media/screenshots/20150227/poe-raedrics-hold.png)

(http://media.obsidian.net/eternity/media/screenshots/20150305/poe-sky-dragon.jpg)

:drool Unity :drool
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Rufus on March 17, 2015, 06:30:59 PM
 :hyper

First game I'm looking forward to in a long, long while.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Steve Contra on March 17, 2015, 06:48:28 PM
Only 9 months (at least) until it's in a shape I'd like to play.  Obsidian :lawd
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: cool breeze on March 17, 2015, 07:57:01 PM
this and bloodborne in the same week.  choices.

though I think own this from kickstarter.  wow, remember kickstarter?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 17, 2015, 08:00:20 PM
Quote from: cool breeze on March 17, 2015, 07:57:01 PM
this and bloodborne in the same week.  choices.

though I think own this from kickstarter.  wow, remember kickstarter?

Dog remembers kickstarter, that's for sure
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 17, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
Thanks for beta testing guys
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 17, 2015, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 17, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
Thanks for beta testing guys

I did it all for you, Lager.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 17, 2015, 09:18:07 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 17, 2015, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 17, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
Thanks for beta testing guys

I did it all for you, Lager.

No no, you're all ABOUT to beta test is what he means.

And he's right.

:hitler
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2015, 04:15:32 AM
I'm sorry but I remember D2 looking like poo when I booted it up way back. It did not look good. D1 look better.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Rufus on March 18, 2015, 04:35:21 AM
Quote from: Dufus on March 18, 2015, 04:14:47 AM
This is one of the worst looking game with pre-rendered backgrounds ever.

I'd like to know why Diablo 2 did it better 15 years ago.
I love D2, but come on...
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 18, 2015, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: Dufus on March 18, 2015, 04:14:47 AM
This is one of the worst looking game with pre-rendered backgrounds ever.

I'd like to know why Diablo 2 did it better 15 years ago.

(http://i.imgur.com/dW95FkZ.jpg)

:comeon
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Rufus on March 18, 2015, 09:49:35 AM
And that's the highest res without mods.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Rufus on March 18, 2015, 09:57:54 AM
That would have been just a tad more expensive.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 18, 2015, 10:03:35 AM
A budget of $4 million doesn't give you a lot of options these days. They'd certainly not be able to get it looking that good with full 3D, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: tiesto on March 18, 2015, 11:46:54 PM
From what I remember, the screens that were initially shown looked better than what was posted above (I remember a vibrant one with a waterfall)... maybe they look better in motion?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: fizzel on March 19, 2015, 08:52:26 AM
The combat was horrific in the beta. and the visuals had a pixelated, "rough" look to them.

Dat combat though, it made me worried.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Rufus on March 19, 2015, 09:36:54 AM
No, no, no, no. :stahp
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 19, 2015, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: fizzel on March 19, 2015, 08:52:26 AM
The combat was horrific in the beta. and the visuals had a pixelated, "rough" look to them.

The combat's changed a ton just in the past couple of months.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 7 days away
Post by: archie4208 on March 21, 2015, 06:47:26 PM
FIVE DAYS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3Ww3-IJQ

:drool
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 7 days away
Post by: doctavius bonbon on March 21, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 21, 2015, 06:47:26 PM
FIVE DAYS
:drool

(http://i.imgur.com/OleRSVJ.gif)
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 5 days away
Post by: nudemacusers on March 21, 2015, 07:49:01 PM
i kinda want this but don't want to lose a savefile due to inevitable quest bugs
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 5 days away
Post by: doctavius bonbon on March 21, 2015, 08:10:35 PM
Quote from: nudemacusers on March 21, 2015, 07:49:01 PM
i kinda want this but don't want to lose a savefile due to inevitable quest bugs

my personal rule of obsidian:

make sure each save is in a separate slot.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 5 days away
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 21, 2015, 09:09:06 PM
That's a good rule for any open-world RPG.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 5 days away
Post by: pilonv1 on March 21, 2015, 09:58:12 PM
I usually have 200+ saves for games like this. Also allows me to go back and try some different builds without having to replay the opening hours.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 9 days away
Post by: fizzel on March 22, 2015, 01:01:57 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 19, 2015, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: fizzel on March 19, 2015, 08:52:26 AM
The combat was horrific in the beta. and the visuals had a pixelated, "rough" look to them.

The combat's changed a ton just in the past couple of months.

I hope so, i'm in the mood to engross myself in RPG spergery.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 5 days away
Post by: doctavius bonbon on March 23, 2015, 04:37:10 AM
The streaming embargo for the game ends 5 or so hours from now, if anyone wants to see the press build in action.

edit: oh man someone is already streaming: http://www.twitch.tv/theroguezombie
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 5 days away
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 23, 2015, 12:40:59 PM
Videos are popping up, too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXIQv2UEXTo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BwN7BYpZ48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOVfrRWR4Nw
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: archie4208 on March 23, 2015, 05:22:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u96bzh-3Eyk

In depth look at combat.  :drool
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 23, 2015, 05:25:55 PM
will buy when it's $20 on a steam sale

Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Rufus on March 23, 2015, 06:17:23 PM
I paid 25$ :rejoice
In 2012 :dayum
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 23, 2015, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus on March 23, 2015, 06:17:23 PM
I paid 25$ :rejoice
In 2012 :dayum

Just think, only another 6 months before it will be playable
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Rufus on March 23, 2015, 06:35:57 PM
I'm going to valiantly beta-test it for you. :goty
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 23, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
OH HEY LOOKIT THAT

Guess I bought this and forgot about it. So, I'll be playing at launch.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 23, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on March 23, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
OH HEY LOOKIT THAT

Guess I bought this and forgot about it. So, I'll be playing at launch.

this is the whitest thing you've done today
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 23, 2015, 09:02:57 PM
:heh
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 24, 2015, 09:16:17 AM
How long is this game?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 24, 2015, 09:30:24 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 24, 2015, 09:16:17 AM
How long is this game?

It isn't known specifically yet, but you're definitely not going to blast through it in ten hours.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is 3 days away
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 24, 2015, 09:35:01 AM
I reaaaaaally want to play this but long games just dont work now :(
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: archie4208 on March 25, 2015, 11:13:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Edamjsq.png)

:lawd
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: Rufus on March 25, 2015, 11:38:00 AM
 :omg
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 25, 2015, 07:34:18 PM
Got my copy ready.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: pilonv1 on March 26, 2015, 12:42:21 AM
So as a non Kickstarter person how much is this going to cost me?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 12:53:40 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on March 26, 2015, 12:42:21 AM
So as a non Kickstarter person how much is this going to cost me?

$33.74 on GreenManGaming.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 26, 2015, 01:20:48 AM
Is there a way to preload if you bought direct through Obsidian (ie not Kickstarter or Steam)?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: pilonv1 on March 26, 2015, 01:28:54 AM
Any reason to get the special editions?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: Rufus on March 26, 2015, 06:53:59 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on March 26, 2015, 01:20:48 AM
Is there a way to preload if you bought direct through Obsidian (ie not Kickstarter or Steam)?
Check under "My Products" in your Obsidian account and see if you can generate a key there.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is TOMORROW
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 09:29:22 AM
So that's what he meant when he said he'd fought a thousand fights. :ohhh
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is a few hours away!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 26, 2015, 09:50:57 AM
This game is 41 euro on steam whaaaaaaat

Is it weird that that Evilore image makes me want to skip the game?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is a few hours away!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 10:09:56 AM
First reviews are in:

Quote from: PC Gamer
A deep, rich, and wonderfully written RPG that lives up to the towering legacy of the games that inspired it. 92/100

Quote from: Escapist
While Pillars of Eternity is certainly banking on a nostalgic fan base, it's still an excellent RPG in its own right. It's a game rich with player agency, giving you tons of control to craft your story or explore different solutions to the presented problems. You know, actual roleplaying not simply a game with a leveling and stat system stapled on. 5/5

Quote from: GameWatcher
All you really need to know though, is this; Pillars of Eternity is a triumph. If you’re a backer and a fan of those classic Infinity Engine games, you’re in for a real treat, a smart and complex adventure that will keep you entertained and absorbed for possibly the rest of your life, and certainly until the already announced expansion pack comes out. Even those who never got on with those classic games should give it a go, because there’s a tonne of smart design choices in here that smooth out the rough edges that might have kept you away before. A superb introduction to a fascinating new fantasy world. Can’t wait to see where in the world of Eora we get to go next. 9/10

Quote from: Eurogamer
Pillars of Eternity is the Baldur's Gate 3 we never got, returning to the Infinity Engine style of role-playing with flair. Recommended

Quote from: PC World
What I'm saying in way-too-many words is this: Obsidian has a reputation for crafting fantastic RPGs, and deservedly so. Pillars of Eternity is, as far as I'm concerned, Obsidian at its best ever.

Quote from: Videogamer
Pillars is remarkable. It achieves and surpasses its mission to be a 'refresh' of a style of game which died out long-ago, shortly after providing a blueprint for those which superseded it. Had the men and women at Obsidian succeeded only in making something which appealed to old-time fans of the genre, they could have called it a job well done. But they’ve gone one better – Pillars of Eternity is modern, while evoking the past. It’s accessible, but satisfyingly complex. Its quality is undeniable, and it’s particularly heartening to see Obsidian, the underdog RPG studio with a string of thrown-bones and rough diamonds behind it, pour its sweat and passion into something they obviously love – and utterly nail it. Barring disaster, I’ve no doubt this will hold up until the end. I'll let you know in about 200 years.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is a few hours away!
Post by: Rufus on March 26, 2015, 10:12:13 AM
Just a couple more hours. Finally. T_T
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is a few hours away!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 10:18:26 AM
Quote from: Rock, Paper, Shotgun
By the time I’d completed Pillars Of Eternity, which I estimate took me 60 hours (possibly more), I’d completed over 50 side-quests, and a secret (but high) number of main quests (you’d be able to figure out if you were getting near the end if I told you!), made great new imaginary friends, interfered in deeply complex politics, become entangled in my own confused opinions about the mystic science of Animancy, struggled with many moral quandaries, existed in the game’s world for a lot of in-game months, killed over a thousand enemies, and influenced and been influenced by so, so much, and so, so many.

It’s a triumph. A wonderful, enormous and spellbinding RPG, gloriously created in the image of BioWare’s Infinity classics, but distinctly its own. A classic in every sense.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is a few hours away!
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 26, 2015, 11:30:26 AM
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 26, 2015, 12:42:38 PM
:rock downloading now :rock
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 12:46:23 PM
I'm "sick" so I get to stay home for the rest of the day. :win
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 26, 2015, 12:53:13 PM
Too bad Himuro left, totally wanted to call her out for her naysaying

:bolo
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on March 26, 2015, 01:27:30 PM
(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/541896205296330667/D656790DF27F270F05FEEB0878EC2B9381430663/)

 :punch
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 01:36:12 PM
I certainly hope you put all available points into Might, archie.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on March 26, 2015, 02:37:05 PM
How is it?

It's really good so far.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: toku on March 26, 2015, 05:03:08 PM
it's about to be lit
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 06:38:08 PM
3 hours in and, yeah, it's really good. Everything feels pretty solidly put together as far as all the systems go, combat is smooth and responsive, moving around and interacting with the world works how it's supposed to [and including a quick movement speed, with an option to temporarily speed up even further, is much appreciated], it's got tons of choices in dialogues and quests like you'd expect, it all works. I haven't really encountered any weird bugs or glitches at all, maybe one or two very minor grammar issues out of a ton of text and on a rare occasion battlefield pathfinding gets a bit screwy, but it definitely feels like a game that had a good amount of QA done on it, unless things change dramatically later on.

And I really love the choose-your-own-adventure segments, that's the kind of thing that non-cinematic RPGs have always needed but it hasn't ever happened until now.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on March 26, 2015, 07:09:53 PM
blah i just bought this despite wanting to be strong ... god i'm such a crpg slut.   :-*
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: pilonv1 on March 26, 2015, 09:34:10 PM
Is this something where I can play it like Divinity Original Sins and ignore the story or is it worth reading?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: doctavius bonbon on March 26, 2015, 09:34:40 PM
 Hopped on a friend's mumble and talked with some dudes about their character creation choices. Found out everyone (including me) rolled a cipher. The allure of mind powers was too strong. :lol
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
I thought about having a cipher character, but ended up going with ranger so that I could shoot many men with a gun.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: toku on March 27, 2015, 12:36:37 AM
Anyone who thinks this game doesn't look or sound good is a dummy.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 27, 2015, 02:20:52 AM
THIS GAME. This game.

:noah
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on March 27, 2015, 03:41:46 AM
played for a few hours


• character selection is ok; lots of portraits but the 3d models look kinda goofy; why doesn't my cape show up in game  :'(

• bg art is great

• the choose your own adventure aspects are handled well, seems to be a variety of approaches to encounters with people; not sure yet how much a factor attributes are in dialog, it doesn't show anything in responses (a la fallout 3 etc). anyone know?

• still getting the hang of this paused-real-time-cooldown combat

• the game crashed the first time I started the campaign  :lol no issues after that but srsly

I'm playing pure wizard, fwiw.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on March 27, 2015, 07:46:00 AM
I'm surprised at how polished the game is, especially coming from Obsidian.  The only bug I've had so far are a few pathfinding issues in combat.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 27, 2015, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: nudemacusers on March 27, 2015, 03:41:46 AM
it doesn't show anything in responses (a la fallout 3 etc). anyone know?

I think that's one of the things that doesn't show up at higher difficulty levels. I'm playing normal and I regularly see attribute-based responses that I don't have a high enough level to select.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 27, 2015, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: Dufus on March 27, 2015, 09:54:30 AM
I tried to play Baldur's Gate I could never properly grasp the combat system. Would I be able to enjoy this game?

PoE does a lot to make the combat easier to manage than the old D&D games, without sacrificing strategic depth.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on March 27, 2015, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 27, 2015, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: nudemacusers on March 27, 2015, 03:41:46 AM
it doesn't show anything in responses (a la fallout 3 etc). anyone know?

I think that's one of the things that doesn't show up at higher difficulty levels. I'm playing normal and I regularly see attribute-based responses that I don't have a high enough level to select.
ah that must be what 'expert mode' or whatever it is called does. I wasn't exactly sure. Makes sense.

Also given the scope of the game as I've seen in a handful of hours in, this is going to take me quite a long time to get through heh.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: brob on March 27, 2015, 12:20:39 PM
There is a dipswitch in the game options for what (I think) y'all are talking about

(http://i.imgur.com/iJN8hFF.png)
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 27, 2015, 01:24:29 PM
Nah, what nude's talking about is the "Show Unqualified Interactions" option.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on March 27, 2015, 03:44:51 PM
Really polished late 90s CRPG
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 27, 2015, 05:03:29 PM
Just a little tip: Rebind "Select Entire Party" to Q on the keyboard, since it's not used for anything in the default controls.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: doctavius bonbon on March 27, 2015, 05:20:36 PM
Quote from: Esch on March 27, 2015, 03:05:56 PM
So does this have anything fresh or new feeling going on like Divinity or is it just a really polished late 90s CRPG?

For the most part, it feels like a really polished 90s CRPG with its own ruleset.

Part of the game has you managing, upgrading, and defending a stronghold though. I can't speak too much on it, since I've only just unlocked it.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: pilonv1 on March 27, 2015, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: Esch on March 27, 2015, 03:50:00 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 27, 2015, 03:44:51 PM
Really polished late 90s CRPG

Thanks. ill prolly nab it on sale then  :borys

Green Man Gaming has it 20% off
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 27, 2015, 11:36:18 PM
In thinking about it, calling PoE just an Infinity Engine RPG is really unfair, because in a lot of ways PoE is head and shoulders above what Bioware and Black Isle were doing 15 years ago, especially in terms of mechanics. Rose-tinted nostalgia says that they were every bit as good, but let's get real here: the D&D ruleset and the Infinity Engine had limitations and problems that PoE doesn't.

Two of the things that stand out the most in this regard are the combat and movement. Virtually everything related to combat is explained in a way that makes it clear exactly how everything works and what all the skills and spells do. THAC0? Forget it. And then movement. The Infinite Engine games always felt a bit slow and cumbersome, moving around just wasn't that fluid. But in PoE, movement is much smoother and it has a built-in trigger to speed up your characters for when you want to quickly move through an area you've already cleared, or want to not making sneaking around take forever.

As far as the writing and characters go, I'd say it's about equal to its predecessors. A little better in some cases, not quite as good in others, but it basically evens out.

And graphics, wise? It's not even close.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on March 28, 2015, 01:06:48 AM
hopefully it does well enough for them to go at it again. i want to get some hours in tonight but i'll probably pass out soon  :'(
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on March 28, 2015, 07:48:09 AM
Definitely agree about the combat.  BG2 is awesome, but as someone that never played D&D, the battle system was near indecipherable.

Quote from: nudemacusers on March 28, 2015, 01:06:48 AM
hopefully it does well enough for them to go at it again. i want to get some hours in tonight but i'll probably pass out soon  :'(

It's been the #1/2 selling game on Steam since it came out.  It's doing fine.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Obsidian would only need to sell 90k copies to make as much from digital sales as they got on Kickstarter. They're going to sell a lot more than 90k copies.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: toku on March 28, 2015, 04:19:38 PM
So I guess we spoke too soon. Obsidian gonna Obsidian. Apparently theres a bug where if you double click to equip instead of dragging you lose some passive traits...forever. Reloading a save works or making a new character if you don't have one:
http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/comments/30lmx2/psa_doubleclicking_equipment_bug/
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 28, 2015, 04:21:35 PM
lol
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 28, 2015, 05:01:49 PM
Quote from: toku on March 28, 2015, 04:19:38 PM
So I guess we spoke too soon. Obsidian gonna Obsidian. Apparently theres a bug where if you double click to equip instead of dragging you lose some passive traits...forever. Reloading a save works or making a new character if you don't have one:
http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/comments/30lmx2/psa_doubleclicking_equipment_bug/

Requote for new page.


I'm holding off on this game, I'm not a big fan of the combat system. Still looks great, that RPS review convinced me to buy it.



Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on March 28, 2015, 07:05:00 PM
Fuck, I know I double-clicked something accidentally, but I'm pretty sure I don't have any saves from before then... Sigh. I've been feeling like starting over anyway. Not really getting into the groove with the combat.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: doctavius bonbon on March 28, 2015, 07:09:38 PM
Fuuuuuck. I didn't even notice :\
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 28, 2015, 07:18:17 PM
#alwaysdrag
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: doctavius bonbon on March 28, 2015, 08:05:50 PM
It looks like removing npcs from party, and then slotting them back in will fix the issue. I don't know if there's a console command that'll let you do the same with the player character though.

edit: http://steamcommunity.com/app/291650/discussions/0/618457398969566531/
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2015, 08:53:48 PM
The first post-release patch is coming next week, I imagine this will be one of the things addressed in it.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: pilonv1 on March 28, 2015, 11:26:10 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2015, 08:53:48 PM
The first post-release patch is coming next week, I imagine this will be one of the things addressed in it.

Guess I'll wait until then to start a proper playthrough then. Will just fuck around with some characters for now.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on March 29, 2015, 05:50:52 PM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on March 28, 2015, 05:01:49 PM
Quote from: toku on March 28, 2015, 04:19:38 PM
So I guess we spoke too soon. Obsidian gonna Obsidian. Apparently theres a bug where if you double click to equip instead of dragging you lose some passive traits...forever. Reloading a save works or making a new character if you don't have one:
http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/comments/30lmx2/psa_doubleclicking_equipment_bug/

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I'm holding off on this game, I'm not a big fan of the combat system. Still looks great, that RPS review convinced me to buy it.
the combat was really janky to me until I figured out that I needed to turn on AOE/spread indicators and how to best position people prior to engagement. it flows pretty well now but does kinda turn into a clusterfuck in tight quarters melee (dungeons etc). not really a problem in open air.


also I have a stronghold now, pretty cool. game is really starting to gel together. and lol at that bug.  :-\ fortunately haven't encountered anything yet aside from random crashes.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on March 29, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
Random annoyances:
- Put at least 2 (or 3) points into Athletics for every character, it reduces post combat fatigue by 80-90% respectively. I find this really stupid because of how mandatory it feels given the limited resting, but there you go.

- Scouting/sneaking is weird. Everyone sneaks, or no-one sneaks. This is complete shit for rogues, which is one reason I didn't even consider the backstab perk. The other reason being that you have to be 2m away, even with a ranged weapon. This is not only non-sensical, but seems impossible unless you have double-digit Stealth or something.
Also, secret stashes and levers are only visible when you sneak, just like traps. It makes sense, but it's the Detective Vision problem all over again. You have no reason to turn it off with double speed on, at which point it may as well be the standard stance in un-explored areas.

- You have to wait for combat to start to cast offensive spells. Why?

Random delights:
- The endurance/health split, i.e. 'encounter HP' and 'overall HP'. I like it when I don't have to top off everyone's health all the time. I only wish spells had their own pool of MP that worked the same way instead of having so-and-so many uses a day/resting period.

- Consequently, I really like how Chanters work. Looking forward to trying Ciphers, too.

- The XP system is quite cool. You stop getting XP for mobs you've learned everything about (by fighting some number of them), so there's no compulsion to pick fights with every critter on the map. (They are in the way of possible loot and quest though...)

- Mechanics. Everybody can be competent at lock-picking and disarming traps. My rogue will be dedicated to that, but I like that anybody can do it.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 29, 2015, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: Rufus on March 29, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
Also, secret stashes and levers are only visible when you sneak, just like traps. It makes sense, but it's the Detective Vision problem all over again. You have no reason to turn it off with double speed on, at which point it may as well be the standard stance in un-explored areas.

Scouting should be really dependent solely on the skill level, rather than having to be activated through the Sneak function.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 30, 2015, 12:33:40 AM
23 hours in 4 days. :noah
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: naff on March 30, 2015, 09:48:52 PM
Enjoying this though I already have character regret rolling a wizard as my main. First new party member you get is.... A Wizard! So I was running just two very squishy wizards for a while, then I got that Chanter and a Fighter... It's fine, though I think i may reroll a Rogue main, run through what I've done again and rethink my build a little bit. At the moment combat is very fast and I deal a lot of damage but I should've followed my gut and gone with a Rogue as I normally would.

:shaq2

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Just got my Stronghold, cleared all the sidequests I've accumulated so far and explored all the areas I have been too. Haven't been to the City yet and avoided Raedrics.
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Quote from: Rufus on March 29, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
- You have to wait for combat to start to cast offensive spells. Why?

I hate this so much. Makes spells like Rolling Flame that could otherwise be awesome pre-combat smashes/openers when you're about to enter a room full of beasties a lot less useful. I'm not going to throw a powerful rebounding crazy fireball into a room full of my squishy dudes.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: naff on March 30, 2015, 10:06:17 PM
Also, dislike how you can't change the party leader for conversation checks. I guess I understand this doesn't fit with the flavour of the game, would be nice if they somehow indicated this as Wizards are basically intelligent aspies that can't gauge how a person feels for shit. And no, I'm not comfortable making a high perception Wizard. I figured you could change the party leader for checks a la Icewind Dale/Wasteland... Nope.

edit: nitpicking now, INT is still best for conversation checks. But still, far prefer having this be more malleable though it makes sense for a more character story driven crpg like this. Though imo it should take your party members stats into account unless it's a conversation where it doesn't make sense for them to be involved.

... Just saw that bug note. Never double clicked anything to equip it :mynicca
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: naff on March 30, 2015, 10:36:43 PM
also, re Maerwald

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Apparently absorbing him actually blocks you from going past level 13 of Od Nua :/ confusing information. Guess I'm reloading and changing that decision...

Letting his soul ascend to heaven gets your stronghold +2 prestige

Binding him to the keep gets you +2 security
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on March 30, 2015, 10:44:12 PM
I've turned on the option that shows what checks you don't meet and have learned to embraced it and just 'RP' my Rogue. There are so many different kinds of speech checks, you'd probably have to create an entire party to cover them all anyway. It's not like Torment where the NO can cover everything. Your background, attributes, skills and various sub-classes all have checks. The best one so far being Fire Godlike in the tutorial/prologue.
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You can light the pillars in the tutorial with your 'hair'.
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I've picked the middle option with Maerwald, though I have no idea what that does for me. I just wanted to be nice, I guess. I have to be a goody-two-shoes in every game. orz
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2015, 10:53:45 PM
Played this for about 30 mins last night.  Don't really have time to start this for a few months, but the voice acting really stuck out to me as weird and out of place.  Think I'm going to turn off voices when I actually play this.  Not used to old school crpgs with full voice + the voice actors early on sound pretty terrible.

Otherwise the character creation was amazing and game seems super cool.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: naff on March 30, 2015, 10:59:44 PM
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Your stronghold gets +2 prestige. Basically, your people will like you more and you can get more taxes, +security helps stop bad random events, +prestige increases the number of good random events.

I have read two conflicting things regarding absorbing his soul. Either you can't go past level 13 if you absorbed him, or you can't without. The punishment makes more sense considering how fkd up he was.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on March 30, 2015, 11:12:53 PM
I wish the log showed more details, to better gauge the impact of those numbers.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 31, 2015, 01:29:19 AM
This game. :lawd

Just got to Defiance Bay; I've done everything else I can up to this point, including

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Killing Lord Raedric. Which wasn't easy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFmD8aw2gzo
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on March 31, 2015, 02:14:48 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on March 30, 2015, 10:53:45 PM
Played this for about 30 mins last night.  Don't really have time to start this for a few months, but the voice acting really stuck out to me as weird and out of place.  Think I'm going to turn off voices when I actually play this.  Not used to old school crpgs with full voice + the voice actors early on sound pretty terrible.

Otherwise the character creation was amazing and game seems super cool.
re: the voices, if you mean who I think you mean, there is an in-game explanation for it. but yes it grates so bad lol. otherwise they are ok-good. I might turn it off too simply because it's weird to have some dialog voiced and others not.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: toku on March 31, 2015, 02:44:35 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on March 31, 2015, 01:29:19 AM
This game. :lawd

Just got to Defiance Bay; I've done everything else I can up to this point, including

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Killing Lord Raedric. Which wasn't easy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFmD8aw2gzo
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Yeah I'm dreading that fight.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: The Sceneman on March 31, 2015, 03:28:23 AM
Last Obsidian game I played and enjoyed was Alpha Protocol. Will I like this?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on March 31, 2015, 07:26:14 AM
AP is completely different from PoE

If you played and enjoyed Infinity Engine games, you'll eat this up.

If not, you probably won't.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on March 31, 2015, 08:57:35 AM
If you want an easier time with Raedric, just
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cast Slicken at his mage's feet and follow up with Cloud of Ice or whatever it's called. It's in Maerwald's grimoire and only costs 100cp to learn. Just kill his mage first, top priority. Edér tanks and Durance buffs DR and accuracy for your group. Then just sit back and pick everyone off as you re-fresh Slicken every now and then. :win
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My rogue gave him the coup de grâce with a pistol. :aah
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 31, 2015, 11:59:31 AM
The Raedric fight wasn't so bad. I was only lv 4 and I actually fucked it up a little bit compared to that video I posted.

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I didn't get my main character on the top left fully behind the throne, so I was pulling aggro on both sides of the fight. It basically just took a little bit longer and ate up ALL of my spells, since I had two groups I was CC'ing and damaging. I did have it a bit easier because I laid out like 5 traps instead of one, though.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 31, 2015, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on March 31, 2015, 11:59:31 AM
The Raedric fight wasn't so bad. I was only lv 4 and I actually fucked it up a little bit compared to that video I posted.

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I didn't get my main character on the top left fully behind the throne, so I was pulling aggro on both sides of the fight. It basically just took a little bit longer and ate up ALL of my spells, since I had two groups I was CC'ing and damaging. I did have it a bit easier because I laid out like 5 traps instead of one, though.
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I sent my main up to the top of the stairs to initiate the dialog, while keeping the rest of my party down below. My intent was to have my main run back to the rest of the party, but she got killed before that. Ultimately, it didn't matter, because I was able to use my superior positioning to protect my weaker members while they lobbed fireballs and used support spells. It was a little close at the end, but I got through it.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 31, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
What's everyone maining? I went with Paladin with a focus on tanking, which along with Eder has made the game kind of not hard to begin with.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 31, 2015, 12:13:09 PM
Moon-godlike ranger with a stag spirit [I'm all about that shooting people in the face with a flintlock pistol life].

I'm actually running a party with two rangers right now, and until recently I had two rangers, a chanter, a priest, a wizard, and one fighter as my party. Ended up swapping out the priest for a paladin.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 31, 2015, 12:17:57 PM
I went with moon-godlike for race, too. I have all the first 4 characters you can get (Aloth, Eder, Durance and Kana) and hired Buttoxia the rogue for my pew pew pewing needs. Ranged attacks hit like a fucking truck... although I *did* get a fine arbalest pretty early, which has like a 36-41 dmg range. KABOOM, bitches.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 31, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
Played for a bit. Seems enjoyable. The old school feel of an rpg is nice in an age where they don't really exist anymore. Seems challenging enough so far to me although maybe it gets easy when you have a full decked out party like most rpgs do.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on March 31, 2015, 01:22:30 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on March 31, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
What's everyone maining? I went with Paladin with a focus on tanking, which along with Eder has made the game kind of not hard to begin with.
my main is a pure wizard, robe and all, and it works well as long as eder and that bard guy are tanking as they should. kinda necessary to be specific with formation, as the AOE effects of wizard spells do not discriminate between friend and foe, as I have come to find out  :lol

edit: current formation is a half circle  with eder in the center on full defense mode.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on March 31, 2015, 01:56:10 PM
Orlan Rogue, with only Edér on tanking duty right now. I don't want to make a hireling, so I'll make due until I can get another pre-made to help him out, which is when Sagani will get the boot. For now I have Kana's skellies help out as meat-shields. Durance and Aloth will stay forever. I know there's a druid though, might try him out as well.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: toku on March 31, 2015, 05:33:34 PM
ocean folk rogue dual wielding.
Want to go pistols in one hand but I have found one yet.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on March 31, 2015, 05:35:45 PM
Pistols are two-handed sadly. :c The sabre and pistol pirate dream is dead.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: toku on March 31, 2015, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: Rufus on March 31, 2015, 05:35:45 PM
Pistols are two-handed sadly. :c The sabre and pistol pirate dream is dead.

='(
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: doctavius bonbon on March 31, 2015, 07:09:03 PM
end of act 2 spoilers:

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Oh man, the death of the duc, and the city slipping into complete chaos was a lot to take in at once. The animancy hearing made for a great buildup., especially with that one voice actor dropping f-bombs at 100 decibels. :lol

I didn't realize one of the quest givers would get straight up murdered in the riot though.  Whoops!
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 31, 2015, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: Rufus on March 31, 2015, 05:35:45 PM
Pistols are two-handed sadly. :c The sabre and pistol pirate dream is dead.

It's disappointing, but it makes sense: firing and reloading a flintlock pistol with one hand isn't possible.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on March 31, 2015, 09:46:06 PM
Yeah, and it takes forever to reload, but the damage makes up for any shortcomings.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on April 01, 2015, 11:09:35 PM
28 hours in and I'm still doing side quests in act 1.  :fbm

I did find all the companions tho!

Now to decide between Sagani or Pallegina.  :fbm
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 01, 2015, 11:40:27 PM
I'm 18 hours in and still doing lots of side quests, missing 2 companions: druid and paladin. Since I'm maining paladin, doubt I'll use her on this playthrough. Kind of regret not going with rogue as my main tbh.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on April 02, 2015, 07:46:57 AM
Apparently I over-committed to the Dozens, so now I can't continue helping the Crucible Knights. I'm also on house Doemenel's bad side, but I saw that coming. Fuck those guys, anyway.

Question about you stronghold: how useful are the dungeons? Can I lock up story NPCs in lieu of slaughtering them on the spot? When the conversation goes that way, I mean.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on April 02, 2015, 01:55:01 PM
Just killed my first dragon.  :smug
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 02, 2015, 02:13:20 PM
I'm thinking about setting aside the main quest and heading back down into the Endless Path for a while. I left off on Level 6 after coming up against some tough enemies and then running out of camping supplies.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on April 02, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
I got stuck at the Endless Path level 5 with
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the door that requires 3 emblems.  I found 2 of the emblems in their respective sarcophagus, but the third sarcophagus was busted
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Am I missing something?  Not that it matters right now since Kada is on assignment.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 02, 2015, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 02, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
I got stuck at the Endless Path level 5 with
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the door that requires 3 emblems.  I found 2 of the emblems in their respective sarcophagus, but the third sarcophagus was busted
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Am I missing something?  Not that it matters right now since Kada is on assignment.

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One of the emblems was already found by a member of the expedition that went in sometime before you. I don't remember what level I found it on, but it was probably 2 or 3 and it was on a dead body.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on April 02, 2015, 03:00:25 PM
Ah, ok. 
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I yoloed into the pool of blood on an earlier floor and skipped some floors
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on April 02, 2015, 04:00:28 PM
well i am glad i clicked that spoiler since i'm in the same spot and it would have driven me crazy  :lol
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on April 02, 2015, 08:54:58 PM
Patch is coming out tomorrow that retroactively fixes the double click bug (https://forums.obsidian.net/blog/7/entry-179-patch-notes-103/)

Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 02, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
The change list is pretty long, but, most importantly, it takes out the few significant bugs that people were most annoyed by.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 02, 2015, 09:03:59 PM
Honestly, for an Obsidan game this has been impressively bug free at launch. I'm moderately impressed.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on April 02, 2015, 09:11:05 PM
ah so i can (in the future) adjust antialiasing. nice. maybe i can jack it up to 1600x1400 or whatever then. tho not mentioned, hopefully some stability tweaks are dropped into the os x version, it's getting crash happy on autosave.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 02, 2015, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: nudemacusers on April 02, 2015, 09:11:05 PM
ah so i can (in the future) adjust antialiasing. nice. maybe i can jack it up to 1600x1400 or whatever then. tho not mentioned, hopefully some stability tweaks are dropped into the os x version, it's getting crash happy on autosave.

:ufup
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 02, 2015, 09:43:26 PM
Made it all the way down to level 12 in Od Nua. :rock

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It's getting pretty hard, though, especially in level 11 where you got kicked around by insta-death traps and then mind-controlled by giant spores.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: toku on April 02, 2015, 10:51:52 PM
Some gaffers have already beaten this game...how?!?!
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: pilonv1 on April 02, 2015, 10:54:45 PM
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Bears and Cats can now be equipped with hats

GOTY
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on April 02, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
"Slicken spell is now a single hit AoE."
Yeah, kinda saw this coming. I just used it mostly trivialize a fight against a big-ass Drake with it. I wonder if it still affects flying enemies though. :shh

"Modified attributes of companions and Itumaak."
I hope Pellagina is affected. Her stats look pretty bad.

Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 02, 2015, 11:35:33 PM
Quote from: toku on April 02, 2015, 10:51:52 PM
Some gaffers have already beaten this game...how?!?!

Can probably be beaten in 30-40 hours if you don't do sidequests
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: doctavius bonbon on April 02, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 02, 2015, 09:43:26 PM
Made it all the way down to level 12 in Od Nua. :rock

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It's getting pretty hard, though, especially in level 11 where you got kicked around by insta-death traps and then mind-controlled by giant spores.
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Got to 11, myself.

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Didn't have 12 mechanics, nor a key to open one of the two doors, so I had to drag my party across the spike pit on the 9th floor. :snoop

After I made it to the other side, I realized I was out of camp site kits, so I had to keep pushing forward while being super cautious with my party's health pools. By the grace of some indeterminate deity, I found a kit in one of the webs after clearing out the crystal spiders. Lasted me until I reached the shortcut out.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 03, 2015, 02:56:25 PM
The patch is out now.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Huff on April 04, 2015, 10:07:52 AM
Is this playable on a decent laptop?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on April 04, 2015, 10:10:53 AM
I don't know what a decent laptop looks like, but here are the minimum specs
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Minimum:

    OS: Windows Vista 64-bit or newer
    Processor: Intel Core i3-2100T @ 2.50 GHz / AMD Phenom II X3 B73
    Memory: 4 GB RAM
    Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4850 or NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT

So unless your laptop is ancient, probably?
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: nudemacusers on April 04, 2015, 10:25:38 AM
I play it on a 2014 macbook pro retina without issue.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: toku on April 04, 2015, 06:42:28 PM
They just added an option to fuck with AA too so you should be alright
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 04, 2015, 09:25:19 PM
i'm playing it on a 2015 dell xps13 (broadwell with intel hd 5500 integrated gfx) at 1600x900, runs fine
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: pilonv1 on April 05, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
Anyone showing the reputation choices for dialogue? I'm playing without them but wondering if I'm missing something
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on April 05, 2015, 04:00:43 PM
No, I left those turned off so I wouldn't be tempted to min-max. For a while I let it show the speech checks I didn't meet, but since it merely (and rightly) only reveals the relevant stat and not what the dialogue would have been, I've turned those off as well. It just cluttered up the dialogue box.

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Been playing all day. Made it to down to level 11(?) of the Endless Paths and now I'm stumped*. There was something much earlier that makes me wonder, too, but I have no idea how to interact with it**.

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*There are spirits I can't talk to (yet?) and that mysterious door which needs some kind of passphrase. Do you learn Engwithan as part of the main quest?

**The statue of the previous lord of Caed Nua. I figure you put a/his sabre in his hand to open the secret door outside the room, but I don't have it.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 05, 2015, 06:09:22 PM
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Do you learn Engwithan as part of the main quest?
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You do, yes. It's during the main quest that takes you to Heritage Hill in Defiance Bay.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: Rufus on April 05, 2015, 06:36:44 PM
I should go do that then. I've been avoiding the main quest for quite a while.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on April 05, 2015, 10:28:46 PM
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So you can't beat the last boss of Od Nua at level 11.  :'(

Time to do more quests.
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Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: archie4208 on April 06, 2015, 11:22:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wPWso6B.png)

Took about 46 hours.  Good story and the best implementation of RTWP combat yet.  Did have some gripes tho (will put in spoilers just to be safe).

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-Obsidian blew their load on Defiance Bay.  Twin Elms was a massive letdown in comparison.  It seemed much smaller and had less content.
-I didn't like the level cap.  I lost most of my motivation to complete side quests after hitting level 12.  Also, bounties gave more exp than side quests which was a real wtf.  I would have preferred bounty exp get nerfed and/or the level cap raised.
-The only side characters I liked were Durance and Eder.  Everyone else felt boring.
-Petrify is B R O K E N.  Dragons and the last boss of the game shouldn't die in 3 hits because I cast petrify.
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Definitely Obsidian's best game yet, but Baldur's Gate 2 was better.
Title: Re: Pillars of Eternity is here!
Post by: fizzel on April 06, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
Sick of RPG's with bullshit for itemization.
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Post by: Rufus on April 06, 2015, 04:20:14 PM
You'll have to go to ARPGs to quell your loot lust.

Made it to the last level of the Endless Paths.
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I am not at all prepared for this fight. One breath and all my people are done for. :lol Guess I'll come back when they're level 12. They're 10 currently. I wonder if she'll be more difficult now that I've betrayed her...
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Post by: archie4208 on April 06, 2015, 04:30:58 PM
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Just spam petrify with Aloth.  Enjoy your free win.  :^)
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Post by: Rufus on April 06, 2015, 05:19:56 PM
Do I wanna do that though? Probably. :I
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Post by: naff on April 06, 2015, 10:34:04 PM
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Bears and Cats can now be equipped with hats

GOTY

lol. cats and bears but not my piglet? outraged by this arbitrary favouritism  :maf
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 07, 2015, 08:22:15 AM
That will come in the expansion
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 08, 2015, 06:12:26 PM
49.3 hours.

A great game.
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Post by: Rufus on April 08, 2015, 06:16:31 PM
I'm still in Act 2, getting lost in sidequests.
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Post by: Rufus on April 10, 2015, 06:05:40 AM
And finished. Great game indeed. Might re-play this soon, but with dev-commentary on. I hope their implementation doesn't suck.

My Rogue worked out really well. Killed the most enemies and did the most damage out of everyone. I didn't miss backstabbing in the end, since sneak attacks are so powerful. Setting up a backstab for every encounter would have been pretty tedious anyway. I went with dual-wielding for the attack speed bonus and tried to stack interrupt chance, so that once the enemies were engaged I could circle around and pick off casters and ranged without them being able to do much of anything. Whenever I wasn't blocking doorways with Edér and shooting anyone trying to get through...

One thing that hasn't been mentioned here before is how readily your companions accept some revelations at the end. Felt too simple, really. Also the way Hiravias speaks is just weird, I'm not actually sure f it's intentional or not.
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Post by: Rufus on April 10, 2015, 09:30:37 AM
I started a Cipher playthrough on hard. From all I've heard about Ciphers it will probably end up feeling like a normal playthrough. Gonna try relying on guns to recharge focus. I'm gonna max my weapon slots and fill them with guns, then rotate through instead of reloading.

I hope there'll be a detailed quest guide soon, because I've forgotten which rewards are worth the time.
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Post by: nudemacusers on April 12, 2015, 04:37:06 PM
my 4 year old son loves navigating the dudes around the map; too bad he has poor tactical skills, keeps getting murked by evil druids or whatever they are.

i have like 40 hours of playtime on steam but have only managed a few hours of gameplay :brazilcry

is it just me or is that ranger chick totally useless? her dog get knocked the fuck out like immediately, and she doesn't really do much of anything either. replaced her with a rogue and am much happier.
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Post by: Rufus on April 12, 2015, 06:45:46 PM
Yeah, I sent her on assignments from the keep. Rogues kill wizards just as well and the fox just gets in the way.
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Post by: nudemacusers on April 12, 2015, 07:55:47 PM
yeah i'm probably going to hire some dudes for my murder squad. eder is ok but he needs to be a tank-pull machine, and I need another damage soaker. was playing with a monk and they seem ok.

and yeah my rogue is a good wizard killer. i just blank her out and send her up and cripple them bitches. the backstab/hobble damage bonus is craycray.


edit: oh if you want to check for gaping holes in your lineup try those warden bounties at level 4. jesus.
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Post by: Rufus on April 12, 2015, 08:54:51 PM
I did the bounties after I was finished with Od Nua, so rolled through most of them. The third tier ones actually put up quite a fight even for a max level party. They give insane XP. Shame the level cap is 12. I wanna say the loot is good, too, but I don't remember where I got most of my stuff. :/
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Post by: nudemacusers on April 12, 2015, 11:37:48 PM
well i get to restart the game lol. apparently it isn't wise to rely primarily on autosaves when handing the keys to your kid :lol not only did he neglect many supplicants needing escort, but most of my party is dead. such is life. he seems to be having fun killing dragons (now that I've turned on god mode), so it's not a full loss.
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Post by: nudemacusers on April 14, 2015, 05:02:15 PM
lol the cipher's antipathetic field is a great way to murk literally everyone (friends too) on the screen. just cast and run in circles.  :lol
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Post by: Rufus on April 15, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
Someone made nice portraits based on the in-game models:
http://www.jasonseow.com/poeportraits
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Post by: nudemacusers on April 16, 2015, 05:43:32 AM
^ looks great

so i had a bleary eyed plan to pwn a large enemy by stacking a miasma (wizard), paralysing spell (cipher) and then dominating him (cipher) so he woke up under my control... worked per the debuff  list, but as soon as he stopped being paralysed, the domination wore off. wtf? dude was supposed to be mine for 14 seconds.  :-\

needless to say my cipher, which has to be within a few feet to pull off a domination, was crushed immediately :lol
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 16, 2015, 05:54:36 PM
New patch is out today:

http://forums.obsidian.net/blog/7/entry-180-patch-notes-104/
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Post by: nudemacusers on April 16, 2015, 08:37:36 PM
*Removed Blunderbuss item from an early game loot table.


vadernooooo


also I've found the priest halt and withdrawal spell to be quite useful in conjunction with the cipher. just line up some halted bros in front of your hidden tank dudes and use the cipher's beam shit to decimate. also making the rogue invisible and having her run back and forth with your beam zappin motherfuckers works too. hmm.
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 19, 2015, 10:34:06 PM
Fuck these spectres and shades and whatever
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Post by: Rufus on April 20, 2015, 04:43:30 AM
They wouldn't be so bad if they couldn't teleport. Aloth used to get killed by them a lot before I stopped being lazy and manually repositioned everyone much further from Edér when he pulled them.

Nuke them with spells if you can. There'll be even worse kinds later on. :shh
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 20, 2015, 09:20:26 AM
Second level of the light house and they can fuck right off
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 20, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
You can avoid most of the fights in the light house if you just go straight to the top and avoid opening any of the chests.
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 25, 2015, 11:18:27 PM
I'm largely ignoring the story, I understand that I can see souls or some shit, my party members have their own quests, and there's a bunch of factions in Defiance Bay and what not. Am I actually missing anything with the story?
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Post by: Rufus on April 26, 2015, 08:29:43 AM
Not really. The big revelation creeps up on you but it still feel weird the way it resolves. This is more BG1 than it is BG2.
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Post by: Rufus on April 26, 2015, 09:46:19 AM
Yeah, PoE2 could be the BG2 to PoE's BG1.

Acronmys!
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Post by: nudemacusers on April 26, 2015, 07:53:52 PM
i feel i'm nearing the endgame, and it's been pretty good. the story isn't too great, but it's executed well and has enough flourish to stay engaging. i think for my next play through i'm just going to be cruel asshole to everyone and see what that gets me.
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 03, 2015, 08:36:59 AM
Act III is starting to drag for me, might take a break for a week
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Post by: Rufus on May 03, 2015, 08:52:04 AM
Act 3 is pretty short. Once you're ready to jump into the death hole it's basically over.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on June 22, 2015, 05:09:41 PM
Teaser for upcoming expansion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a05OrRrR2Q
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Post by: jakefromstatefarm on June 22, 2015, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on May 03, 2015, 08:36:59 AM
Act III is starting to drag for me, might take a break for a week
picked the game up earlier this week, this is right where I'm at, got to
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the pit
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severely underleveled and undergeared, don't feel like slogging through these next quests just to grind out 4 more levels. shame cause I was having a lot of fun throughout Act 2
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Post by: Rufus on June 23, 2015, 08:26:41 AM
Do a couple of bounties, chances are you'll level up just from those. There's nothing much left after that point besides a couple of fights.
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Post by: Rufus on June 25, 2015, 09:00:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0GvsA6exuY

- Party AI
- Individual stealth
- Range indicators
- Accuracy indicators
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Post by: Great Rumbler on August 25, 2015, 09:47:59 AM
2.0 patch and part 1 of the new expansion are both out today.
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Post by: Rufus on August 25, 2015, 10:20:03 AM
Think I'm going to wait until the 2nd part is out, because I'm going to start over from the beginning anyway.