THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 09:30:40 AM

Title: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 09:30:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn25hijDL7c

:preach
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on May 10, 2016, 09:31:14 AM
I've seen Digimon less abominable.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on May 10, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Wowee its Pokemon X again
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 10, 2016, 10:12:26 AM
those starters are awful
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 10:20:55 AM
Wowee its Pokemon X again

Camera is no longer fixed top-down anymore it seems, and no more overworld chibis. Also way more detailed environments. Looks like a decent upgrade considering it's on the same system.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Rufus on May 10, 2016, 10:38:12 AM
Palm trees? So this time it's fake Hawaii I guess?

Camera is no longer fixed top-down anymore it seems, and no more overworld chibis. Also way more detailed environments. Looks like a decent upgrade considering it's on the same system.
RIP New 3DS.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 10:40:04 AM
Yup, fake Hawaii. The name of the region is Alola.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: eleuin on May 10, 2016, 10:56:26 AM
I know its hard to constantly come up with fresh, original designs but these look awful
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 10, 2016, 11:04:45 AM
Owl Jolson from I Love to Singa is one of the starters?
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 11:20:03 AM
Owl Jolson from I Love to Singa is one of the starters?

(http://67.media.tumblr.com/790808122eb1b85d9ee009832090868d/tumblr_o6yr2kzlmO1sgvzi2o2_400.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on May 10, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
I know its hard to constantly come up with fresh, original designs but these look awful

I wish they'd stop with new Pokemon designs and just refine the ones they have now and do more with the mechanics. But people expect 150+ new Pokemon each outing, so...  :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :holeup :doge :doge :doge :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 11:46:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh4M2wOyIYw

Pokemon ends racism :'( :japancry :usacry (http://i.imgur.com/MKy6wMD.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rRQNIeI.png)

(http://www.serebii.net/xy/route.jpg)(http://www.serebii.net/xy/town.jpg)

Next gen :preach

(http://i.imgur.com/BmHAoem.png)

Racism ended even more :bow
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 10, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
Ummmm Pokemon trainers can't be black.  They have the wrong skull shape.


Also why they lined up in a skin tone gradient? 
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Your Stalker on May 10, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
SJeWs win again  :maf
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 12:42:38 PM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/b0c9f1cf739ee39a612a25ca1502c4dd/tumblr_o6yp1nW9ui1qmedfoo1_1280.png)

(https://67.media.tumblr.com/4c11db635d966bd337b3109b3cdb51de/tumblr_o6yp1nW9ui1qmedfoo2_1280.png)

(http://66.media.tumblr.com/d1b1d57f8e40ab98859b071cbfc9a670/tumblr_o6yrk3lO8o1qh8t5wo1_1280.png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGx6fxXEAAHYi5.jpg:large)

(http://i.imgur.com/JE7o4pH.png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGY-poVAAAYzuS.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Your Stalker on May 10, 2016, 01:18:33 PM
no pics of the final evolutions yet?
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 01:19:28 PM
no pics of the final evolutions yet?

No, I don't think those are revealed until release.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Rufus on May 10, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
I'm tempted to search for 'pearl harbour' in the comments.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 02:04:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGS5hgUgAAYUYw.jpg)

:dead

Leaked final evos:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGWlpQUkAEkCv0.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 10, 2016, 02:28:53 PM
Where the SFM vids at?
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2016, 02:30:30 PM
What the... is this for 3DS? Why does it look so bad?

Yes, it's for 3DS.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on May 10, 2016, 02:46:53 PM
What the... is this for 3DS? Why does it look so bad?

Because it's for the 3DS.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: qq more on May 11, 2016, 01:00:19 AM
Game Freak is terrible at optimizing their games, like even their GBA 2D platformer runs at sub-60 fps for some odd reason. 3DS isn't exactly a strong system though. :/ I just hope it has N3DS enhancement features where it runs much smoother with no drops. I know XY/ORAS's engine can run with no drop when you hack the kernel of the N3DS system and unlock the clock speed.

That said, I like some of the new Pokemon designs here, especially the owl (but I'm a bit biased towards birds lol). The seal looks super lame though
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Syph on May 11, 2016, 03:14:28 PM
Iwata died for this
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2016, 03:25:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu1aqnMOWYA

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Andrew Arters1 month ago
Ok its first of it's called pokeMON I don't usually get made from other pea poles opinions but..............…………...........U MOTHER FING FEMALE DOG !!!!!!!!! HAVE U EVEN PLAYED THE GAME ITS AMAZING AND I DONT THINK I SPEAK FOR MY SELF WHEN I SAY THAT AND SO ITS NOT A ZOMBIE KILLING MURDER GAME THAT YOU LIKE OH OTS A TINY LIZARD ITS HARMLESS NEXT THING YOU KNOW ALL YOUR PETS R DEAD AND YOUR GOING TO THE HOSPITAL POKEMON IS MADE 4KIDS DO U NOT UNDERSTAND THAT AND OHHHH IF U GET A POKEMON SUPERFAN'S WAY WHEN IT COMES TO PLAYING POKEMON YOU BEST WATCH YOUR BACK CAUSE IF YOU MESS WITH ONE OF US WELL ALL COME AFTER U OK BITCH
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YellowGaming2 months ago
Well U said u will punch charzard in the face I will punch u in the face and being a man is expressing your self and being honest thats being a man 😎
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SMILEYxLOVER2 months ago
Dislike Dislike Dislike! Why you make this video fuck you! I'm a Pokemon fan and no baby ok?! You are stupid I love Pokemon and you not ok!? I Like Pokemon and I'm not a baby Fuck you why you have 1 k Like? Fuck you Pokemon hater!
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Andrew Arters1 month ago
5 should b competitive is intense and ceeps u on you toes but fps's are easy and all you do is run with a dumb looking gun
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KingDinoGaming2 months ago
Don't Be Mean I Love Pokemon And All The Pokemon You Just Said Are My Favorite Pokemon So Just Stop Making Videos Hating Please I Don't Want Hating Videos Under My Recomended And Were Not Baby's And Beacause Its Handheld Is For Transportation.
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Brandon The Panther2 months ago
You wounldn't know a game if it fucked you in the asshole!
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McJaews2 months ago
i dont see y u guys cant just leave things alone we only wanted to say we hat your video and were not babys, pleas take down video the u put up and dont say were ab abys, maybe we can leave in peace when u stop joking and DONT BE ASSHOLES  !! ninteno is not a baby and u should die.
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Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2016, 03:53:30 PM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/43bd04b427e9b8c655c5eb6cc3bf442a/tumblr_o70aecBl451rhwcn3o1_500.png)

(https://67.media.tumblr.com/8cc051455e3fc3d259dd8c5a83954203/tumblr_o70aecBl451rhwcn3o2_500.png)

(https://67.media.tumblr.com/f8aff27038c2d73aaba1915e7bdb7a8a/tumblr_o70aecBl451rhwcn3o3_500.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 14, 2016, 02:15:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdzyhRc31oQ

Some good shit here. Every time I see the dynamic camera in action I get a swell of excitement. Getting more excited for this than I ever was for XY and ORAS.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 15, 2016, 07:28:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivaRqb0oEsE

Typings for the final evos of the starters have leaked.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Rowlet = Grass/Flying (same as its first stage) OR Grass/Ground
Litten = Fire/Ground OR just plain Fire
Popplio = Water/Fighting

Popplio gets out the best, like the last ridiculed water starter Oshawott. Can't wait to own all the Popplio haters. :aah
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Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 15, 2016, 07:35:01 PM
Andy-kun making plans to bully little kids  :(
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Your Stalker on May 15, 2016, 07:36:02 PM
why does grass always get the shittiest second typing
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 15, 2016, 07:54:12 PM
why does grass always get the shittiest second typing

Because only weirdos and losers choose grass starters anyways.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2016, 12:46:29 AM
U MOTHER F ING FEMALE DOG

That's a really half-butted insult man /PD circa 2005
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Your Stalker on May 16, 2016, 04:43:49 AM
why does grass always get the shittiest second typing

Because only weirdos and losers choose grass starters anyways.

Is any Pokemon fan over the age of 13 any different though?  :larry
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2016, 12:14:16 PM
why does grass always get the shittiest second typing

Because only weirdos and losers choose grass starters anyways.

Is any Pokemon fan over the age of 13 any different though?  :larry

(http://media0.giphy.com/media/DCp4s7Z1FizZe/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Trent Dole on May 16, 2016, 03:53:36 PM
Might be the most fitting use of that phrase over a gif ever.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Syph on May 16, 2016, 04:31:11 PM
Ummmm Pokemon trainers can't be black.  They have the wrong skull shape.

Is...is this a Mismeasure of Man reference?
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Your Stalker on May 16, 2016, 06:04:37 PM
why does grass always get the shittiest second typing

Because only weirdos and losers choose grass starters anyways.

Is any Pokemon fan over the age of 13 any different though?  :larry

(http://media0.giphy.com/media/DCp4s7Z1FizZe/giphy.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/9NpwxLt.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: brob on May 16, 2016, 06:10:31 PM
http://deathbulge.com/comics/343

 :lol
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2016, 06:15:00 PM
http://deathbulge.com/comics/343

 :lol

:lol These are so good.

"Drown'd" :lol
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on May 17, 2016, 03:26:56 AM
why does grass always get the shittiest second typing

Because only weirdos and losers choose grass starters anyways.

(http://i.imgur.com/qHlBAsD.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on June 02, 2016, 11:48:40 AM
New trailer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW14HO7C1Dg

I laughed at the Rotom Pokedex. :lol

Also that means SINNOH CONFIRMED!!

More clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFmfn8sIGhI

Pokemon at E3 info:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMa7jmf2AVk

June 14 - Pokemon Sun and Moon Treehouse Livestream
June 15 - Pokemon GO Q&A
June 16 - "E3 Pokemon Special"
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on June 02, 2016, 01:13:18 PM
(http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/june_2_assets/art/alolamap.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: chronovore on June 03, 2016, 12:04:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/rRQNIeI.png)

(http://www.serebii.net/xy/route.jpg)(http://www.serebii.net/xy/town.jpg)

Next gen :preach

(http://i.imgur.com/BmHAoem.png)

Racism ended even more :bow
But do they support transgender playable characters?

Ummmm Pokemon trainers can't be black.  They have the wrong skull shape.


Also why they lined up in a skin tone gradient?
Why am I not surprised that you're a phrenology enthusiast?

I'm tempted to search for 'pearl harbour' in the comments.
We're American; it's an American location; there's no "u" in "harbor."
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Rufus on June 03, 2016, 09:23:12 AM
Ah fuck.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on June 03, 2016, 10:54:27 AM
But do they support transgender playable characters?

If they handle the customizable clothes like Animal Crossing: New Leaf, then yes.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: qq more on June 03, 2016, 11:13:27 AM
Definitely going for Rowlet. Rowlet >>>>>> Litten but Litten is cute too.

As for the whole Sinnoh thing... personally, I'd rather wait til the next handheld before we get a Gen 4 remake whenever they get to Gen 8. Not the biggest fan of the 3DS hardware tbh
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on June 03, 2016, 11:29:19 AM
Definitely going for Rowlet. Rowlet >>>>>> Litten but Litten is cute too.

As for the whole Sinnoh thing... personally, I'd rather wait til the next handheld before we get a Gen 4 remake whenever they get to Gen 8. Not the biggest fan of the 3DS hardware tbh

I mean I can't imagine there being any further mainline games on the 3DS, outside a sequel/third version of Sun/Moon (Meteor? Star? Comet?)

The precedence being Gen 5 which didn't have any remakes either. I can't imagine what Sinnoh would look like with Sun/Moon's camera and beefier hardware. :drool
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on June 12, 2016, 02:20:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDTKAX-UcQs

:lawd
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2016, 09:01:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ojd6FzTaEM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC-uLg_5RIA

GIVE IT TO ME
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on June 29, 2016, 08:29:52 AM
https://i.redditmedia.com/HQevg3PWYllOnxkywuWAkdzHkvrrWmFjxQHB8G-HdlQ.jpg?w=676&s=0d4b3855c7e6473b41708e981b39e10b

NOPE.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on June 29, 2016, 09:45:26 AM
I only recognize 1 of those Pokemon (Kangaskhan)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2016, 10:29:57 AM
https://i.redditmedia.com/HQevg3PWYllOnxkywuWAkdzHkvrrWmFjxQHB8G-HdlQ.jpg?w=676&s=0d4b3855c7e6473b41708e981b39e10b

NOPE.

Not sure the point you're making. A Pachirisu won Worlds 2014.

http://pocketmonster.kotaku.com/nobody-expected-this-pokemon-to-win-the-championship-la-1623126290

When things get too stagnant someone will try something different and catch people by surprise. It's a sign of a healthy meta.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on June 30, 2016, 11:27:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS02WAcsp3A

I like the electric squirrel ball, the electric fly, the electric beetle, and the warrior-moth thing. :aah
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2016, 01:14:39 PM
New Pokemon:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnu1H2XUEAAI44c.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnu8MAtVIAA7mQu.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnvEpJTUIAAdwLO.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnvMBSlUMAAE2kM.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnvU1wkVMAAmx6T.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnvb3jrVIAAtiFH.jpg:large)



Big metagame news: Hyper Training lets you increase a Pokemon's Individual Values (IVs) for the first time in series history.

(http://i.imgur.com/qGniLtv.png)

Previously, these semi-random values (0-31 for each stat) would be assigned to a Pokemon on catching or hatching them, and would be hard-coded forever. You could influence them by breeding two Pokemon with strong IVs but it was time consuming to get the exact loadout you wanted.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2016, 01:22:42 PM
Holy fuck this just made me realize that you'll be able to use your starter from the beginning of the game competitively.  :o

This is a goddamn gamechanger.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2016, 01:29:17 PM
https://youtu.be/vKosBJ1Uko0
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on July 19, 2016, 01:39:33 PM
So I don't have to autistically grind Zubats for an hour to raise my speed or whatever anymore?
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2016, 01:49:09 PM
So I don't have to autistically grind Zubats for an hour to raise my speed or whatever anymore?

No those are Effort Values (EVs) and they'll probably remain mostly unchanged. EV training a Pokemon in XY takes like 10 minutes though with hordes, Pokerus and a Macho Brace.

IVs are what most whiners have been complaining about since it requires lots of egg hatching if you don't have a good Ditto, and the values are completely static.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2016, 02:10:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jkT7tt2.png)

This is gonna be amazing for online tourneys. Might even setup a multi-week long Bore one so all of us can compete against each other asynchronously. :)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on July 19, 2016, 02:35:03 PM
You are the only one who will want to play this game "competitively"

Rest of us just tryna get some badges and shit
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2016, 02:37:34 PM
You are the only one who will want to play this game "competitively"

Rest of us just tryna get some badges and shit

Too pussy to fite me? :smug
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Freyj on July 19, 2016, 08:28:33 PM
Game would be better figuring out some better way of handling stats than fucking EVs and IVs but whatever at least it's "easier" to deal with worst system in any JRPG I can think of.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 20, 2016, 12:54:06 AM
Game would be better figuring out some better way of handling stats than fucking EVs and IVs but whatever at least it's "easier" to deal with worst system in any JRPG I can think of.

If you mean the deepest and best system of any JRPG then you're right. There's a reason Pokemon's the only competitive JRPG and has endured for over twenty years with the same fundamental stat system.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Freyj on July 20, 2016, 01:59:15 AM
There are a bunch of spergs who don't want to let go of their childhoods?

I mean it's great that they are less pointless grinds now, but that always seemed kind of the point of them in the first place. A simple stat allocation / talent system would serve the same purpose without wasting everyone's time.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on July 20, 2016, 09:40:31 AM
Are there even any other "competitive JRPGs" out there? I think you're just making up words now to put it on a pedestal.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 20, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
I don't need to do shit, the fact that Pokemon's so popular proves it has a great battle system. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on July 20, 2016, 10:55:02 AM
Who's saying it has a bad battle system? Dragon Quest is older and it's the same exact thing.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Rufus on July 20, 2016, 11:01:23 AM
I don't think anyone would actually miss the arcane (read: tedious) shit you have to do to train Pokemon 'properly'. Maybe it's gotten easier though, I don't follow the games' development closely.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: qq more on July 20, 2016, 11:24:21 AM
I don't think anyone's saying the battle system is bad. Just the mechanics to make a really good Pokemon for competitive play is absolutely tedious and annoying.

I don't think anyone would actually miss the arcane (read: tedious) shit you have to do to train Pokemon 'properly'. Maybe it's gotten easier though, I don't follow the games' development closely.
It got easier thanks to Ditto sharing its IV values with the eggs they make, but it's still ass.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 20, 2016, 11:40:33 AM
Who's saying it has a bad battle system?

I don't think anyone's saying the battle system is bad.

Freyj, who I was applying to. Butt out. :ufup

worst system in any JRPG I can think of.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on July 20, 2016, 11:55:54 AM
Oh, yea the EV IV shit is pretty terrible, no question
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: qq more on July 20, 2016, 11:58:30 AM
Who's saying it has a bad battle system?

I don't think anyone's saying the battle system is bad.

Freyj, who I was applying to. Butt out. :ufup

worst system in any JRPG I can think of.
Whoopsss. Didn't see that, my bad man.  :-[

Oh, yea the EV IV shit is pretty terrible, no question
Wish they could revamp that shit wholesale already but I'm guessing that'd be rather difficult to do because there's so many mons you'd have to rebalance. I hope they find a really good solution even though that'll probably take them generations to do that.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on July 20, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
Hyper Training and Super Training/hordes take care of most of the complaints I think.

IVs aren't hardcoded from birth and can be increased to the max without breeding hundreds of eggs now.

EVs take 10-15 minutes to finish on a clean Pokemon.

The system in Sun/Moon is fine unless you believe you should get perfectly trained Pokemon for free and without putting any work in, in which case I'll respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Freyj on July 20, 2016, 12:28:08 PM
The battle system is fine, that's not what I was talking about.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on July 20, 2016, 12:30:46 PM
The EV IV shit is for the spergs anyway. It has no bearing on the casual play.

Its like other RPG speedrunners who do "step manipulation" or "RNG manipulation" to pull off things.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: qq more on July 20, 2016, 01:28:06 PM
The EV IV shit is for the spergs anyway. It has no bearing on the casual play.

Its like other RPG speedrunners who do "step manipulation" or "RNG manipulation" to pull off things.
Yeah, no denying that it doesn't affect casual play. I had thoughts of trying out competitive play but ehhhh I really do not have the time or patience to bother with the EV/IV shit. I'm more of a casual player anyways. I still can get by Red/Blue without telling much of a difference outside of a few things when it comes to battles.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: qq more on August 01, 2016, 10:53:16 AM
(http://i1.wp.com/www.nintendo-insider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/alolan-exeggutor-image.png)


he did it

hes a real palmtree now

i am so proud of him!!!
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 01, 2016, 12:06:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZHowhxM0U

That Vulpix :uguu
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 01, 2016, 12:47:29 PM
a lot of this stuff looks cool. mostly because its different. as someone who just dumped 50 hours in Y and just started OR, by the time this comes out I'll be interested in a new game with new shit.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 01, 2016, 12:49:17 PM
Final starter evos leaked: http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1256184

That fire dude :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: curly on August 01, 2016, 12:52:53 PM
I know who Boss Doggie's choosing :doge

Aside from the :trash starters the designs this gen are pretty good
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: qq more on August 01, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
Rowlet's final evo looks boss though

Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2016, 11:41:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py2LxgWBaRQ

Don’t care for Alola Raichu but the new evil team looks awesome.

(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470901803-raichu1.gif)

(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470901874-raichu2.gif)

New Pokemon looking great too.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2016, 04:52:12 PM
(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470935107-meou1.gif) (http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470935248-meou2.gif)

(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470935656-marowak3.gif) (http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470935719-marowak4.gif)

(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470935777-marowak5.gif) (http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470936660-pyuk1.gif)

(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470936729-pyuk2.gif) (http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/32/1470936889-pyuk3.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 18, 2016, 04:58:01 PM
Ash stay losing. :hitler

Should've gone with Skarmory and the other 3-4 Pokemon everyone and their mother uses, maybe he'd win a league for once and be featured in a game. :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on August 18, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
20 years without a W has to take a toll on you.  :fbm
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 18, 2016, 05:18:46 PM
Animu thread is that way -> http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=37475.msg2174599#msg2174599

Keep this thread pure. :hitler
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: CatsCatsCats on August 18, 2016, 10:26:09 PM
That's 3ds? Looks really good. Kinda want this after go sucking so hard

Maybe I'll steal my stepsons copy of Y

Edit err guess he has x whatever
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 19, 2016, 02:30:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1hsh267tUM

Haunted sandcastle :lawd
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 20, 2016, 07:35:39 PM
Keep this thread pure. :hitler

Pure, you say?

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av5811712/
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2016, 12:13:53 AM
Those look like XY models so they check out. :obama
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 21, 2016, 08:17:32 AM
Didn't really matter about the models for me, I :leon -d to them being in sync and looking similar while doing it.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2016, 01:54:21 PM
https://vine.co/v/5Mpq6uJPd97
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 21, 2016, 10:42:09 PM
Would be better without the clipping.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 22, 2016, 02:45:12 PM
Is the Alola form of a Pokemon some bullshit trigger like Mega Evolution or is it an actual new Pokemon with its own Pokedex entry?

Do they still have Mega Evolution in these games?
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 22, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
It seems like there might be a Mega Evolution Dragonite but in general the feeling in the VGC seems to be Gamefreak is moving away from it and focusing on Z-Moves instead which might be easier to balance.

Alolan Pokemon presumably occupy the same Pokedex entry as their non-Alolan couterparts, but like Shellos' different forms it depends on where you catch them. In Shellos' case, pink Shellos were found in western Sinnoh and blue Shellos were found in the east. If you caught either of them it "counted" the same as far as your Pokedex was concerned.

(http://i.imgur.com/iDwmpYU.png)

Alolan versions of Pokemon are likely the only species found in the wild in Alola, and they appear to have different movesets and typings, but otherwise I think the Shellos comparison is accurate.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 22, 2016, 05:24:51 PM
So will existing Mega Evolutions be present in this game? Will you be able to get the stones to use those forms exist in this game? Will Alola Pokemon be obtainable in the future?

It seems weird to make gen-specific Pokemon, which is the way it seems to be going. They should have made the Mega Evolutions their own Pokedex entries so there would be some permanence to them.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 22, 2016, 05:35:55 PM
So will existing Mega Evolutions be present in this game? Will you be able to get the stones to use those forms exist in this game? Will Alola Pokemon be obtainable in the future?

It seems weird to make gen-specific Pokemon, which is the way it seems to be going. They should have made the Mega Evolutions their own Pokedex entries so there would be some permanence to them.

I don't see why they wouldn't. They made them. Same as the stupid "go to these specific stones to evolve Eevee" Grass and Fairy(?) evolutions in Gen 5.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 22, 2016, 06:42:19 PM
So will existing Mega Evolutions be present in this game? Will you be able to get the stones to use those forms exist in this game?

I would say probably.

Will Alola Pokemon be obtainable in the future?

I would say yes, but only via transferring from past games.

It seems weird to make gen-specific Pokemon, which is the way it seems to be going. They should have made the Mega Evolutions their own Pokedex entries so there would be some permanence to them.

TBH I don't know why they didn't do that, aside from the fact that #003 Venusaura and #645 Mega-Venusaur being so far apart might seem weird. Mega Evolutions in general seemed to always be a battle-specific concept, so I guess I don't have a problem with them not being outside of battles either.

I don't see why they wouldn't. They made them. Same as the stupid "go to these specific stones to evolve Eevee" Grass and Fairy(?) evolutions in Gen 5.

They always seem to try to ensure that past evolution paths are at least doable in new gens, even if the Pokemon used for them aren't available without transferring. See also: Rotom's forms (there's a place to change forms at-will in every single mainline game following Platinum even when Rotom wasn't available.)

Leafeon (Moss Rock) and Glaceon (Ice Rock) were Gen 4 btw, and Sylveon (Gen 6) evolves in a weird way involving a fairy type move and Pokemon-Amie stuff.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 24, 2016, 12:32:42 PM
http://www.theverge.com/tldr/2016/8/24/12623290/dragon-dance-charizard-dragonite-videos-twitter-pokemon

(http://i.imgur.com/FY5MAqa.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 24, 2016, 07:37:22 PM
They seriously need to make a mode in the next one that lets you do this. :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 25, 2016, 12:05:06 AM
Pokemon Amie but with Elite Beat Agents mechanics? I'd be so fucking game.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 29, 2016, 08:41:57 PM
Andy: What's the GTS spoof software for Gen-4/5 now? The one I'm using apparently can't be used on my 2DS because it says the Wifi service is shutdown now or something? :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on August 30, 2016, 03:14:09 AM
I'm not a cheating fraud so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 31, 2016, 12:14:09 AM
Guess I should just finish the Elite 4 in Black 2 instead of trying to finish the Pokedex. :doge Everything I'm looking at shows that method is dead since apparently it needed to ping Nintendo servers which is crazy to me since the method DNS'd to another server. :doge :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on September 03, 2016, 02:46:34 AM
http://kotaku.com/the-internet-reacts-to-pokemon-sun-and-moons-new-snorla-1786096038

:dead :rofl :dead
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on September 03, 2016, 07:31:17 AM
Snorlax :bow2
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on September 06, 2016, 10:21:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbMGKvN6ts

Fat Raticate.  :uguu
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2016, 01:29:40 PM
https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/773195075681681408

:lol
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2016, 09:19:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFqxPWVIU2U

Young gay love is so precious :uguu
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on October 04, 2016, 09:24:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqAkdXQ9dw

You can pet your Pokemon.  :uguu
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2016, 09:32:34 AM
Owl looks chill as fuck. Might be my first grass starter in... ever.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2016, 09:38:52 AM
Beast part of that trailer: Poke Pelago is like Hunters for Hire from Monster Hunter, just with box Pokemon. :lawd
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2016, 03:35:19 PM
Special Demo Version is out today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0w4f-0U8_Y
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2016, 04:48:26 PM
:drudge

Lots of stuff has been datamined from the demo.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_KfjwyVaoY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwpIhRkAlRw

Entire Alola Regional Dex: http://i.imgur.com/0g4drUf.jpg
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(http://66.media.tumblr.com/89dfaacde1147e34aae1cd758da13038/tumblr_of86o2euNF1ql31zxo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on October 18, 2016, 08:17:02 PM
Yep it's Pokemon alright.

The presentation is slick af though.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Your Stalker on October 18, 2016, 08:29:17 PM
how long is the demo
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on October 18, 2016, 08:33:55 PM
Like 20 minutes.  There's a postgame area where you can catch Pokemon though.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on October 19, 2016, 12:23:29 AM
Like 20 minutes.  There's a postgame area where you can catch Pokemon though.

That you don't keep, but you get a Nugget to send to the full game from if you do 3 catches and then end it.

If you do 3 Battles, you get an item in the same area as well.

There's a girl near a couple Slowpokes down the road that'll have you ride a Tauros to break rocks and get another item to send to the main game.

There's day events, but those aren't happening yet.

I gotta say, outside of the :kobeyuck -tastic anti-aliasing the presentation is nice. I started up X like a week ago, but Aloha region is farrrrr more engaging just from the short time here alone.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on October 27, 2016, 09:21:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uWAMwcRGmU

Feels good being in the Rowlet master race.  :smug
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: a slime appears on October 27, 2016, 09:27:04 AM
I am convinced that Game Freak employs incompetent programmers or they are forced to utilize a prehistoric game engine because it's too much effort to do a rewrite. Even though they have two teams and the A team is given three years to make a handheld game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The reality is all the awesome Japanese programmers go to mobile or other industries since they get paid much better and work less hours. It's gotten pretty bad if you want to hire top talent over there.
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Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on October 27, 2016, 11:28:12 AM
I am convinced that Game Freak employs incompetent programmers or they are forced to utilize a prehistoric game engine because it's too much effort to do a rewrite. Even though they have two teams and the A team is given three years to make a handheld game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The reality is all the awesome Japanese programmers go to mobile or other industries since they get paid much better and work less hours. It's gotten pretty bad if you want to hire top talent over there.
[close]

??? S&M look great for a 3DS game. Shits all over the DQ remakes for instance.

(http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dragon-Quest-VII-1.jpg)

:kobeyuck :kobeyuck :kobeyuck

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l396Jic7XyPLmt2M0/giphy.gif)

(http://66.media.tumblr.com/6c4aed19b905d89f03a599477b952aec/tumblr_o704fh77rv1ttdkobo2_500.gif)

:leon :aah
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 27, 2016, 11:31:51 AM
looks great
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: chronovore on October 28, 2016, 08:54:45 AM
I am convinced that Game Freak employs incompetent programmers or they are forced to utilize a prehistoric game engine because it's too much effort to do a rewrite. Even though they have two teams and the A team is given three years to make a handheld game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The reality is all the awesome Japanese programmers go to mobile or other industries since they get paid much better and work less hours. It's gotten pretty bad if you want to hire top talent over there.
[close]
:whynotboth.gif
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: a slime appears on October 28, 2016, 09:11:51 AM
I am convinced that Game Freak employs incompetent programmers or they are forced to utilize a prehistoric game engine because it's too much effort to do a rewrite. Even though they have two teams and the A team is given three years to make a handheld game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The reality is all the awesome Japanese programmers go to mobile or other industries since they get paid much better and work less hours. It's gotten pretty bad if you want to hire top talent over there.
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??? S&M look great for a 3DS game. Shits all over the DQ remakes for instance.


Art, animation, and visual design is fantastic. Can't take that away from the game but that also has nothing to do with programming prowess.

I was more specifically talking about the team's inability to evolve past the core mechanics of their engine, which I've been told is crushingly data driven and highly inefficient, which results in not being able to render the game at 800x240 for 3D or even have a rock solid 30fps throughout the game.

You have games like Yo-Kai Watch, Resident Evil Revelations, and Monster Hunter Stories that outdo it on a technical level on the 3DS, all which had smaller teams and shorter development cycles. GameFreak has the cash, development time, and hiring clout to outdo those efforts but they choose not to or maybe they simply can't.

Also none of my point matters since little kids don't give a shit about GRAFIX. :lol
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2016, 12:13:57 PM
 :dunno

I mean the game's not even out yet and everything shown so far is smooth and looks great.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on October 28, 2016, 12:46:42 PM
Well, I mean this is the same engine as Gen 5, isn't it?

I mean the game's not even out yet and everything shown so far is smooth and looks great.

There's definitely frame drops in the demo, and they couldn't spare processing power for post-processing/Anti-Aliasing.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2016, 02:04:21 PM
Gen 5 is the same engine as 4 lol.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2016, 02:46:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZcqvFtWyqI

:punch
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 11, 2016, 08:25:24 PM
Spoiler summary of changes from previous changes, both general and competitive (via GAF):

spoiler (click to show/hide)
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so no hordes, no super training, no triples, no rotations, no national dex, no new megas, no dex nav, no move tutors

but hey, there's no hms anymore, and uh some op pokemon got nerfed, and they brought back trainer customisation, and trainers show up in the battle screen now, and it's a fully 3D environment, and it's apparently more challenging now with totems and exp scaling
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Seems like mostly a big step forward, although lack of hordes is gonna hurt EV training a bit. I don't have much problem with the other omissions.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 11, 2016, 09:19:35 PM
None of that meant anything to me, maybe I'm out
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Your Stalker on November 11, 2016, 09:25:42 PM
i'm gonna miss move tutors and hordes
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 11, 2016, 10:22:51 PM
The second paragraph should make most casual fans really happy.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2016, 01:41:54 PM
Reviews. :rejoice

NintendoLife: 10/10 (http://"http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/pokemon_sun_and_moon")

Quote
Simply put, Sun and Moon are best Pokémon games that Game Freak has ever produced. Poké Pelago, the side quests, the absolutely stunning nature of the presentation, it's all a sheer joy from start to finish. Game Freak hasn't missed a beat and has managed to carefully balance the inclusion of new mechanics without totally ruining things for the most hardcore fans. It's got content coming out of its ears, a much more interesting story, and rewards exploration in a way no other title in the series has. Whether you're a Pokémon fan new or old, this is an absolutely essential purchase.


Digital Spy: 5/5 (http://"http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/pokemon/review/a810712/pokemon-sun-and-moon-review/")

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Pokémon Sun and Moon is the ultimate Poké adventure. It manages to introduce a lot of new features that greatly enhance the gameplay experience, but retain enough of the original DNA to make sure it doesn't feel totally alien to players who have been Pokémon trainers since 1996.

We can't wait to see where the series goes next, because with Pokémon Sun and Moon it's clearly the beginning of a new Pokémon era, not the closure of the last.


IGN: 9/10 (http://"http://ca.ign.com/articles/2016/11/15/pokemon-sun-and-moon-review")

Quote
After 20 years of slow but steady evolution, Pokemon gets a bit of a reinvention in Sun and Moon. An engrossing and rich new region makes the Alola journey — along with all the changes Sun and Moon make to the existing formula — enjoyable throughout the main adventure, and small interface and variety of upgrades along the way make a few of the things that stayed the same feel better than before.


God is a Geek: 9.5/10 (http://"http://www.godisageek.com/reviews/pokemon-sun-moon-review/")

Quote
Pokémon Sun and Moon are filled with so much you’ll be absorbed in every facet from the moment you begin;

DualShockers: 9/10 (http://"http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/11/15/pokemon-sun-pokemon-moon-review-nintendo-3ds-new/")

Quote
Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon are both fantastic additions to the series’ 20th anniversary. With an inspired new generation of Pokémon and a ton of variation, Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon are the freshest take on a tried-and-true series. However, just like a vacation, most changes are ones I hope are temporary — I’ll be happy to return to the formula again next year.


Destructoid: 9/10 (http://"https://www.destructoid.com/review-pokemon-moon-399331.phtml")

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But for every issue I found with Pokemon Moon, whether it was an old problem that just caught up with the series or something new -- I found solace in the indomitable likability of a cast member, or the thrill of finding another party member that I would battle with for years to come. I'm already seeing myself playing for several hundred hours before the end of 2016, and I haven't even fully experienced all of the online features yet. Such is the power of Pokemon, and I hope we get to see Alola's influences linger as Game Freak gears up for its next adventure.


The Sixth Axis: 9/10 (http://"http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2016/11/15/pokemon-sun-moon-review/")

EGM: 9/10 (http://"http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/pokemon-sunmoon-review/")

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A couple technical issues aside, Sun/Moon might be the best Pokémon game yet. It freshens up a formula some of us PokéManics might not have realized was growing stale until now. Trials and Grand Trials provide variations on familiar gameplay, and the removal of HMs and telling players how effective their moves are rejuvenates battling.

The Good   The island trials will make you never want to battle in a gym again. Ride Pokémon doing away with Hidden Machines from previous games.
The Bad   Some slowdown in battles involving three or more Pokémon.
The Ugly   Why is my character always smiling? Even when things take a turn for the worst in the game, my character’s facial animation never changes.


Game Informer: 8.5/10 (http://"http://www.gameinformer.com/games/pokemon_moon/b/3ds/archive/2016/11/15/game-informer-pokemon-sun-moon-review-3ds.aspx")

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Sun & Moon feels significantly different from previous Pokémon games. X & Y may have marked the series’ biggest visual change, but Sun & Moon shows Game Freak is willing to re-examine Pokémon’s tenured mechanics in order to improve the game. Sun & Moon is still Pokémon, but it showcases some of the biggest changes the series has ever seen – and that’s a good thing.


GamesRadar: 4/5 (http://"http://www.gamesradar.com/pokemon-sun-and-moon-review-a-marvellous-sense-of-rolling-wonder-for-anyone-regardless-of-age/")

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Pokemon’s celestial pair occupy a unique position, belonging to a bestselling series played by kids and adults alike. Sun and Moon not only maintain its broad appeal, but boost it into the stratosphere. It’s familiar enough and different enough. It’s complex but well-communicated (if a little heavy handed in its tutelage). Learning about each of Sun and Moon’s new monsters - how they run, fly, swim, feed, dance, and co-exist with locals - gives the games a marvellous sense of rolling wonder for anyone, regardless of age. Game Freak’s latest welcomes old fans disillusioned by previously samey entries and entices a whole new generation to pick up a Pokedex.


Nintendo World Report: 8/10 (http://"http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/43671/pokemon-moon-3ds-review")

Quote
Pros

Battle mechanics are as fun as ever
Characters and world are charming
Does experimental things with formula
Fun additional features
Ride Pokemon lift the move limitations

Cons

Double Battles chug rather harshly
More linear and easy going
Story less intriguing than expected


Eurogamer: Essential (http://"http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-15-pokemon-sun-and-moon-review")

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With Pokémon Sun and Moon however, I have a new one: the world of Pokémon is finally, exactly that: a world, with charming, textured characters not just in the named friends and foes you meet, but the random people on your journey, the region you live in, the music, the Pokémon themselves and the very soul of the journey. At long last, Pokémon is not just back. With Sun and Moon, it feels fresh again.


GameXplain: Loved it (http://"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apbtEs17wIo&feature=youtu.be")

 :lawd :noah :whoo :miyamoto
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Positive Touch on November 15, 2016, 01:45:07 PM
any good deal on 3ds xls coming up? no way am i sharing my game boy with my wife when this shit comes out
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2016, 01:50:10 PM
any good deal on 3ds xls coming up? no way am i sharing my game boy with my wife when this shit comes out

XL not sure, but Nintendo's advertising a Black Friday deal where you can get a (regular) New 3DS for $99.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on November 15, 2016, 01:52:35 PM
I dont think any retailer is advertising an XL deal, just the "regular" new 3DS.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on November 19, 2016, 12:58:42 PM
Pokemon Sun & Moon $32 at Amazon - if you havent bought it already

http://amzn.to/2gqqFGW
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2016, 01:17:23 PM
Game is fantastic.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2016, 01:33:23 PM
10% melemele pokedex so far. Trying to get a grubbin. Only problem with the game as a Pokemon catcher addict is that the game has worse pokedex options than ORAS. I loved sneaking up on rare Pokemon with neat unique abilities in ORAS. And being able to see what Pokemon it was so I could seek out a specific Pokemon. This game tells you where you can find a Pokemon if you look in the dex but it's not on the same level as ORAS. When I got the Poke Finder thing I was excited because I thought it'd function like Alpha Sapphire but instead it was just for taking pics.

Sucks because there's so many Pokemon to catch! Another great thing about ORAS is that it told you if you caught every Pokemon available on that one location. That's also absent.

So that's the only real negative of this game so far and it will only bother if you the reason you like Pokemon is for catching 'Mon.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2016, 01:44:38 PM
Grubbin caught! 11% pokedex! I named her Hercules.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on November 19, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Sure am glad Amazon delayed my order until Tuesday even though I had it preordered for months.

:fbm
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 19, 2016, 02:07:31 PM
sigh I'm gonna pick this up today I guess
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
having lots of trouble picking my team! Lots of great monsters! I want a Pyukumuku!
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2016, 08:04:52 PM
So far this game >>>> X

It's full of personality and more importantly the game doesn't feel like it's made of babies in terms of difficulty. The first real boss used a potion. I fought random npcs who used FULL RESTORE and I'm barely into the game. Npcs didn't act like this in X at all. At best you'd have a boss heal their Pokemon with a potion but that was late game only. Wild Pokemon are also wrecking me occasionally. There is no instant win button like in X where I'd one shot things on the regular. I actually have to use strategy, even against trainers. The music is fantastic and I have the main battle theme stuck in my head.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 19, 2016, 08:46:13 PM
QoI got me wantin this
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 19, 2016, 10:48:12 PM
I've been playing this for about 4 hours and I'm still being led around by the nose. Waiting to finally get out into the world on my own finally.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2016, 10:58:35 PM
A little late but I'm downloading Moon now!
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2016, 11:06:40 PM
I've been playing this for about 4 hours and I'm still being led around by the nose. Waiting to finally get out into the world on my own finally.

It stops after trainer school
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2016, 02:19:32 AM
This game continues to be fantastic.

Analysis of the dungeon design of the first dungeon:

Rules of Trials - 1. You cannot leave the trial once you have started it. 2. You have to complete the goal of the trial.

At the beginning, you lack revives. Hau gives you five revives but guess what, the Pokemon in the first trial hit like a truck. They have a move called Super Fang which can one shot most Pokemon. Meanwhile, you lack items and you can't just high tail it to the Pokemon Center. You have to actually use strategy. These enemies are fast and STRONG. You will die if you do not use proper resource management. So after defeating the first monster I had beat, I realized I had two of my Pokemon get toasted in the process. I revived them. I'm now up to three revives and only one monster beaten - not a good place to be. So the next monster I fight, I throw in my Alola Muck aptly named Mr. Yuck after the  poison control mascot. One problem with this enemy is how strong they are, so I put used Harden. This started a buff/debuff war. I buffed with harden, it tried to debuff me with Leer. An attack that would almost one hit kill a monster in the last battle gave me some good health padding due to the buff. I poisoned it and played the long game, and kicked its ass with Pound. Using strategy in a Pokemon to not get killed? And I'm only 5 hours into the game. And that was a non-boss encounter.

Pokemon single player that's not brain dead and has actual jrpg dungeon design resource management? :bow They've always had the ability to pull this off but just decided to press the Fuck It button this time.

:bow THIS GAME :bow2

And the music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPvGJxwR908

:lawd
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 20, 2016, 09:10:16 AM
Do I need to beat the demo before starting the game to get the bonus items/pokemon, or can I do it at any time?
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 20, 2016, 10:22:03 AM
I've been playing this for about 4 hours and I'm still being led around by the nose. Waiting to finally get out into the world on my own finally.

It stops after trainer school

Yeah I'm just after that.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2016, 10:37:03 AM
Do I need to beat the demo before starting the game to get the bonus items/pokemon, or can I do it at any time?

You need to beat it.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: eleuin on November 20, 2016, 12:52:42 PM
so are there only the alolan versions of the ones changed

exeggutor has been memed to death but the new Persian looks terrible too 
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2016, 12:54:32 PM
ok so the game is still holding my hand

halp
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 20, 2016, 01:23:52 PM
so are there only the alolan versions of the ones changed

exeggutor has been memed to death but the new Persian looks terrible too

Marowak, Ninetails, Sandslash and Raichu are all pretty cool.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 20, 2016, 02:01:43 PM
I'm 20 minutes in and holy shit Himu wasn't kidding about the production values. Super impressed right now.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 20, 2016, 09:28:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxwJJovW8AAbjDm.jpg:small)

Love my new look. ^_^
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2016, 11:49:47 PM
I'm fighting the first grand trial. I've had XP share off and the boss has Pokemon that lv15. If given the opportunity some of this bosses Pokemon will one shot your entire party. I've played Blue, X, Blsck 2, and Alpha Sapphire and I haven't had to have any meaningful strategy putting together a team in one of these games since maybe the original. Maybe ever because I don't remember a thing about Blue except it was amazing at the time.

I'm seeing people complain about how easy the gane is and I have no idea what they're talking about. So far this is by far and away the Pokemon with the highest initial challenge because I sure as fuck didn't struggle like this on any other game. Even if a move is classified as super effective it doesn't mean it's a win button. Gane rocks. Time to formulate my team.

For the record, he wiped me out. For extra trivia, I never got knocked out once in X.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2016, 12:09:28 AM
I usually get knocked out once or so every game, usually in the mid-game when I get overconfident and haven't leveled most of my team.

People are probably saying Sun/Moon are easy because Exp. Share is on by default, and for instance level 15 isn't a problem if you've been solely using your starter to that point and have been seeking out trainers to battle and not avoiding the tall grass.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 12:47:20 AM
I usually get knocked out once or so every game, usually in the mid-game when I get overconfident and haven't leveled most of my team.

People are probably saying Sun/Moon are easy because Exp. Share is on by default, and for instance level 15 isn't a problem if you've been solely using your starter to that point and have been seeking out trainers to battle and not avoiding the tall grass.

All of my Pokemon are level 11-12 except my starter and my Muck which are lv 15.

With xp share off and not only using your starter, this game can be a challenge.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2016, 12:48:56 AM
I usually get knocked out once or so every game, usually in the mid-game when I get overconfident and haven't leveled most of my team.

People are probably saying Sun/Moon are easy because Exp. Share is on by default, and for instance level 15 isn't a problem if you've been solely using your starter to that point and have been seeking out trainers to battle and not avoiding the tall grass.

All of my Pokemon are level 11-12 except my starter and my Muck which are lv 15.

With xp share off and not only using your starter, this game can be a challenge.

Of course. But it's also worth talking about the defaults I suppose. Nuzlocke is really challenging too.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 12:51:23 AM
I played X with xp share off and still one shot everything with Greninja.

I've caught 25% of the Pokemon on Melemele so I've fought A LOT and I'm still under leveled. :rejoice
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2016, 12:54:53 AM
Loving the game but I'm kinda disappointed with how little I've seen of new monsters at all.

Oh look Magnemite. Oh look Wingull. Oh look Abra.

It's good for type differentiation (a problem in Sinnoh) but I was hoping to build my team exclusively with new 'mons in this game. Doesn't seem like that'll happen.

Black/White handled this the best.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 01:07:22 AM
I think you're supposed to get Alola version of Pokemon. So I'm fine with that because they feel new to me.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 01:20:28 AM
I just checked a lot of enemies are level 10 or so even on Route 3. No wonder I'm underleveled. This seems like a deliberate design decision.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2016, 01:23:07 AM
Yeah, it doesn't pay to avoid the tall grass, as annoying as random encounters are.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 01:30:03 AM
I don't avoid the grass at all either. I've caught every Pokemon I have come across so far except for Litten and Rockruff.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 01:40:42 AM
Got my Poekmon one more level and I pummeled the shit out of grand trial. Staying under leveled is definitely for the best.  :doge This difference between one level is vast and even then, the final pokemon of the grand trial can still fuck your shit up so there feels like there's still balance.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 02:08:57 AM
Andy there's SO MANY Pokemon to catch once you've beaten the grand trials and unlock new areas. :lawd

I think I might stay on Melemele catching Pokemon until I get nearly 100%. I'm at 28% now, though and I will become overleveled if I catch to many, so I'll leave it at Rockruff, grab the loot, and explore the rest of the island.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2016, 05:02:50 PM
I cannot contain my appreciation for Hau any longer. :'( :heart
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 08:29:00 PM
Hau just wants to chill at the beach and catch Pokemon. Guy doesn't give a shit about anything just coasting. Living the life
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2016, 03:51:59 AM
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/9a4b920ff2977252d3489a427735660c/tumblr_o85pwmSp9V1qdrxqbo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2016, 03:52:11 AM
Pokemon Sun and Moon sold 1.9 million in its first 3 days in Japan (http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1318639)

D-D-D-DOMINATION!!
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 22, 2016, 09:14:15 PM
I'm only about 2 hours in. My initial thoughts is the amount of polish in this is astounding. Everything just, feels and looks perfect. Reminds me of a persona game in the level of aesthetic attention. This could possibly be better than x.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: demi on November 22, 2016, 11:22:52 PM
rofl. x/y was anusfarts, anything should be better
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Trent Dole on November 23, 2016, 04:21:50 AM

D-D-D-DONGS
Pokemon never stopped being a big thing in Nippon I'm told.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 23, 2016, 12:44:19 PM
rofl. x/y was anusfarts, anything should be better
eh, I liked it better than Omega and Black and White (both of them)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: eleuin on November 23, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/g1uflRZ.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on November 24, 2016, 01:25:00 PM
Wonder Trade.  :lawd

Traded a Rattata for a Lapras.  :lawd
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: a slime appears on November 24, 2016, 09:47:57 PM
This is the best Pokémon game.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 24, 2016, 10:44:44 PM
This is the best Pokémon game.

Haven't played enough to form a concrete opinion yet, but I definitely think it's the best "new gen" games in the entire series for new and lapsed fans. XY were already really geared toward Red/Blue supremacists but this game goes even further with it (Alolan forms, Red/Green, etc.) There's a crazy amount of handholding, which also contributes, but it also streamlines a whole lot and hides the complex bits for the post game. The removal of HM's is long overdue and exceedingly welcome.

I'm imagining the Diamond/Pearl remakes in the NX version of this engine and I'm busting a nut. :lawd
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 24, 2016, 10:51:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Chorocojo/status/801633082877022208
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on November 27, 2016, 10:55:04 AM
http://i.imgur.com/N5TyjO7.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sSofokAIiw
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2016, 02:14:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oCned0sl.png)

hau

stahp

ur killing me
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 28, 2016, 05:42:29 PM
Hapu > Hau
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2016, 08:25:53 PM
Hapu > Hau

(https://media.giphy.com/media/HlhLsvpvFi5xe/giphy.gif)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
no
[close]
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 30, 2016, 10:25:09 AM
What's the best way to catalog legendaries from the opposite version? Online battles?
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 30, 2016, 10:25:42 AM
or rather Ultra Beasts, i guess
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2016, 04:09:37 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-11-30-pok-mon-sun-and-moon-sales-hit-1-5m-in-europe

Quote
Nintendo of America has announced that Pokémon Sun and Moon have become the fastest-selling games that Nintendo has ever launched in the Americas, with 3.7 million combined units sold in under two weeks.


Nintendo pointed out that the brisk sales pace represents an 85 percent increase over Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, which were the previous record holders for Nintendo's fastest-selling games. For those keeping track, Pokémon-related software has sold more than 280 million units worldwide since launching with the Pokémon Red Version and Pokémon Blue Version games in 1996.

#fad #thirdparty
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: archie4208 on November 30, 2016, 04:16:01 PM
Pokemon Go making the franchise relevant again.

:bow mobile gaming :bow2
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2016, 04:22:50 PM
Pokemon Go making the franchise relevant again.

:bow mobile gaming :bow2

(https://media.giphy.com/media/bkKwwMj347FJe/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: bork on December 02, 2016, 08:17:05 AM
Hey, I don't know anyone who bought these new Pokemon games, but people are still all over Pokemon Go.

:idont
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on December 02, 2016, 03:39:11 PM
No one else cares but Game Freak confirmed that Mega Stones are out for the VGC 2017 format (the official competitive ruleset.)

Also all Pokemon used have to have been caught or bred in Alola and exist in the Alola Pokedex (as opposed to the National Pokedex, which contains every Pokemon to date.) Of the 802 Pokemon introduced, only 300 will be usable in official tournaments (the Alola Pokedex numbers 302 but it also has two Mythical Pokemon, which are banned.)

This means I get Raichu but not Togekiss or Hydreigon, my other faves. :'(

Ah well, will be fun to learn the newbies.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Atramental on December 05, 2016, 03:04:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/yXPzzW4.jpg?1)

Haven't seriously played a Pokemon game in over a decade (at least). It's good to be back.  :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on December 06, 2016, 01:38:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/7MR9T9Nl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/gEZuQeFl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/2mSUYB1l.png)

:uguu :uguu :uguu :uguu :uguu :uguu :uguu
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2016, 11:37:31 PM
Picked up Pokemon Moon today. :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on December 07, 2016, 10:09:53 AM
Picked up Pokemon Moon today. :doge

Best version. :rejoice

Edit- Added poll.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Atramental on December 07, 2016, 11:11:39 AM
🌙 matches my personal aesthetic.  :doge

Also, getting some Dratini (Dratinis?) from my brother today so I can give one as a congratulatory gift to that girl I'm dating after she gets done with her exams.  :doge
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2016, 01:30:30 PM
Also, getting some Dratini...so I can give one as a congratulatory gift to that girl I'm dating after she gets done with her exams.  :doge

That's true love right there. :uguu
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on December 10, 2016, 08:30:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLI3L9Hoysc
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on December 12, 2016, 11:35:47 PM
Who's got a slowbro with a king's rock for your boy? I've got one for ya too
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on December 12, 2016, 11:58:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLI3L9Hoysc

http://theyuseifan.tumblr.com/post/154357595739/procrastination-can-create-many-things

:dead
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Syph on December 13, 2016, 01:12:01 AM
for real though which version do i get
this is the first entry that i haven't followed every single leak and bit of detail for, so i'm completely in the dark besides the typing of the starters
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2016, 02:34:33 AM
for real though which version do i get
this is the first entry that i haven't followed every single leak and bit of detail for, so i'm completely in the dark besides the typing of the starters

It never really matters much tbh. Sun follows the real-time clock while Moon is offset by 12 hours, so if you're a night owl you'll probably appreciate Moon more.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on December 13, 2016, 11:51:46 AM
^Eventually even that doesn't matter though, as after a certain point you can switch between night and day.
I'm not kidding about that slowbro btw, let's get our kings on
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 13, 2016, 12:41:17 PM
Moon is offset by 12 hours

 :ohhh
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2016, 01:07:27 PM
^Eventually even that doesn't matter though, as after a certain point you can switch between night and day.

Spoilers!

I'm not kidding about that slowbro btw, let's get our kings on

Haven't gotten that far. :'(

Moon is offset by 12 hours

 :ohhh

You didn't know? :lol
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 13, 2016, 01:09:29 PM
Well, I knew that it always tended to be night when I played, but didn't realize why. :lol
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 13, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
I have some questions.  I really enjoyed Omega Ruby but B/W, B/W2 and X/Y have all been pretty average IMO.

How is the post game?
Is Mega Evolution still a thing?  Can I still use my mega stones?
How soon into the game could I transfer stuff from the Bank?
Now that the game is mostly 3D, can I actually see my pokemon when I'm surfing?  Or does the player still ride an indistinguishable blob?

I have not been following the game.  Apologies for my uber newb questions. 
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
How is the post game?

Dunno, but I've heard it's in-line with the first games of the other gens (see: pretty light.)

Is Mega Evolution still a thing?  Can I still use my mega stones?

Yes, but not in official tournies. Z-Moves and Z-Crystals are the new hotness.

How soon into the game could I transfer stuff from the Bank?

Sun and Moon haven't been enabled for Bank yet (will sometime next month I think.)

Now that the game is mostly 3D, can I actually see my pokemon when I'm surfing?  Or does the player still ride an indistinguishable blob?

HM's are no longer a thing. Instead you get 6(?) "ride Pokemon" that are specific: Charizard for flying, Lapras for surfing, Stoutland for hidden item sniffing (AKA dousing machine), Tauros instead of a bike, etc. You see these Pokemon in the overworld while you're riding on them.

(http://i.imgur.com/jeJvusVl.png)

They don't count toward the Pokedex, don't take up team space, and you don't actually catch them - they're given to you like an item is.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 13, 2016, 05:20:52 PM
Quote
HM's are no longer a thing. Instead you get 4-5 "ride Pokemon" that are specific: Charizard for flying, Lapras for surfing, Stoutland for hidden item sniffing (AKA dousing machine), Tauros instead of a bike, etc. You see these Pokemon in the overworld while you're riding on them.
:lawd

Very nice, thank you!  So the new z-moves/z-crystals work alongside mega evolutions in the single player?

I might wait for the Bank to open up but the game sounds good otherwise. 
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: thisismyusername on December 13, 2016, 05:37:34 PM
Quote
HM's are no longer a thing. Instead you get 4-5 "ride Pokemon" that are specific: Charizard for flying, Lapras for surfing, Stoutland for hidden item sniffing (AKA dousing machine), Tauros instead of a bike, etc. You see these Pokemon in the overworld while you're riding on them.
:lawd

Very nice, thank you!  So the new z-moves/z-crystals work alongside mega evolutions in the single player?

I might wait for the Bank to open up but the game sounds good otherwise.

Yes. But at the same time there's no "Mega Ring" or whatever it was called in X/Y, so you can't Mega Evolve until post-game (so far from what I've played) but Z-moves are able to be used provided you meet the conditions and have the stone.

Don't bother waiting, the base game has a bunch of Gen-1 forms, but there's some new ones in there that are worth using. The trading-NPC Bounceed or whatever it's called has been pretty solid.
Title: Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2016, 11:27:07 AM
:jawalrus

Welcome to the team, brother.