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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2016, 02:52:43 PM

Title: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2016, 02:52:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/C6uT7N7.gif)
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Rufus on December 14, 2016, 02:53:47 PM
Sigh. Yeah, I guess.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
Nah. Dude is legit challenged and creepy.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: bork on December 14, 2016, 03:34:10 PM
If he was just lolcrazy, I would have said yes.

But he was doing some legit, actual stalker shit that a few members here were able to provide in detail.  Leave him banned.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: studyguy on December 14, 2016, 03:34:19 PM
We should all strive to be as free as Creepy Stalker tbh

The bore is just deficient in its daily intake of longform crazy ARG posts that have nothing to do with reality.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Brehvolution on December 14, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
Sounds too close to Airwolf.   :donot

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/dr7OW2F.jpg)
[close]
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2016, 03:40:01 PM
If he was just lolcrazy, I would have said yes.

But he was doing some legit, actual stalker shit that a few members here were able to provide in detail.  Leave him banned.

But bork, we need his FF15 hot takes!
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: bork on December 14, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
That is one smug-looking helicopter pilot.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 14, 2016, 03:52:56 PM
Everyone has a Creepy Stalker in their life.

Maybe it was an old college friend.  Maybe it was a ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend.  Someone who wormed their way into your life and invaded every facet.  They loved drama and seemed to constantly be in a state of crisis.  They were annoying as fuck, got you into an adderall (Final Fantasy  :-*) habit, and smashed out your windshield when you tried to cut them out of your life.  But time heals all wounds.  You look back at those crazy times with a soft nostalgia and warm feelings.

But never, ever call up Creepy Stalker.  You've grown as a person but Creepy Stalker? Creepy Stalker is still a mess.  Creepy Stalker has found new a new group of unsuspecting, nice people to invade their lives and leach off of.  Creepy Stalker is still ranting about the same old things and is concerned with the same old issues because people like Creepy Stalker never really grow or adapt. They're in a perpetual state of childhood and they can't stop self sabotaging.  Creepy Stalker will take you down with him.

So no.  Let memories be memories.  Remember the good times but never reconnect to your Creepy Stalker. 

 :playa
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 14, 2016, 03:54:12 PM
One one hand, dude's a legit trainwreck and endlessly entertaining.

One the other, someone will legit get murdered.
 :larry
 :idont
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: helios on December 14, 2016, 04:15:10 PM
What do we have to lose?
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 14, 2016, 05:11:41 PM
wrong threads whoops. I have no idea what a Creepy Stalker is.

Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: studyguy on December 14, 2016, 05:31:39 PM
wrong threads whoops. I have no idea what a Creepy Stalker is.

You're in the right place tbh.
 :doge
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Dennis on December 14, 2016, 06:31:41 PM
Sure.

People should get a second chance even though they messed up.

If he comes back and acts like a nutter that is on him.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: nudemacusers on December 14, 2016, 07:44:03 PM
:rash
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: chronovore on December 14, 2016, 08:22:00 PM
One one hand, dude's a legit trainwreck and endlessly entertaining.

One the other, someone will legit get murdered.
 :larry
 :idont

How is that the other hand?  You're still posting positive things.

Puppy's ambidextrous.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: chronovore on December 14, 2016, 08:22:21 PM
That is one smug-looking helicopter pilot.
Jan-Michael Vincent was apparently a very problematic personality.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: MMaRsu on December 14, 2016, 10:10:22 PM
Leper Creepy Stalker filth thx

( p.s I dont know Creepy Stalker )
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: MMaRsu on December 14, 2016, 10:12:14 PM
Sounds too close to Airwolf.   :donot

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/dr7OW2F.jpg)
[close]

That intro theme tho :doge
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2016, 10:37:54 PM
( p.s I dont know Creepy Stalker )

He was a crazy person who tried to convince everyone here that they were participating in some Final Fantasy ARG, even though no one could understand what he was going on about.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: helios on December 14, 2016, 11:01:16 PM
( p.s I dont know Creepy Stalker )

He was a crazy person who tried to convince everyone here that they were participating in some Final Fantasy ARG, even though no one could understand what he was going on about.

That's part of the ARG
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Momo on December 14, 2016, 11:26:30 PM
I had like one interaction with the dude and I busted out laughing  :playa
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Syph on December 14, 2016, 11:35:05 PM
If he was just lolcrazy, I would have said yes.

But he was doing some legit, actual stalker shit that a few members here were able to provide in detail.  Leave him banned.
wait actually?
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Momo on December 14, 2016, 11:59:20 PM
I just went into the safe space thread and now know why this one exists  :doge
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: eleuin on December 15, 2016, 12:01:53 AM


wait actually?
go read his thread in the HoF

dude had an unparalleled ability in writing gibberish
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: thisismyusername on December 15, 2016, 12:13:16 AM
If he was just lolcrazy, I would have said yes.

But he was doing some legit, actual stalker shit that a few members here were able to provide in detail.  Leave him banned.
wait actually?

Yes, really. Bork posted about it in the old old old old old GAF thread.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: T234 on December 15, 2016, 06:09:05 AM
Don't.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: chronovore on December 15, 2016, 07:07:49 AM


wait actually?
go read his thread in the HoF

dude had an unparalleled ability in writing gibberish

Spinning Mangina or whatever, Atrophied Flanksteak... c'mon, what was that other guy's name? I had it a minute ago. Verdigris Shaboodop? That guy wrote pretty good gibberish, but he wasn't sincere. Creepy Stalker was into it.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: bork on December 15, 2016, 07:17:59 AM
If he was just lolcrazy, I would have said yes.

But he was doing some legit, actual stalker shit that a few members here were able to provide in detail.  Leave him banned.
wait actually?

Yes, really. Bork posted about it in the old old old old old GAF thread.

I got PMs about him from people who were able to provide details on his legit real-e-stalking behavior.  This was beyond just simple message board nonsense.  Dude needs help for real.

Spinning Mangina or whatever, Atrophied Flanksteak... c'mon, what was that other guy's name? I had it a minute ago. Verdigris Shaboodop? That guy wrote pretty good gibberish, but he wasn't sincere. Creepy Stalker was into it.

Are these Mega Man X bosses?
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Momo on December 15, 2016, 07:28:18 AM
It's easy to remember if you remember it like i do: Ver-dingus Murder (it's Verdigris Murder)
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Rufus on December 15, 2016, 08:26:52 AM
Also known as Martin Raperman.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: bork on December 15, 2016, 10:42:25 AM
Sounds too close to Airwolf.   :donot

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/dr7OW2F.jpg)
[close]

That intro theme tho :doge

(http://i.imgur.com/VoVgLlH.png)
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: chronovore on December 16, 2016, 02:41:23 AM
Right! Martin Raperman/Verdingus Murder. That guy may have just been using a chatbot to generate thread responses. A tryhard looking for reactions. Creepy Stalker seemed sincere.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: tiesto on December 16, 2016, 09:56:55 AM
Martin Raperman was my Secret Santa one year and he actually delivered!
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 16, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
Right! Martin Raperman/Verdingus Murder. That guy may have just been using a chatbot to generate thread responses. A tryhard looking for reactions. Creepy Stalker seemed sincere.

sincerely dangerous
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on December 16, 2016, 01:43:26 PM
Free Creepy Stalker, the rest will follow
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 17, 2016, 10:07:28 AM
Sounds too close to Airwolf.   :donot

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/dr7OW2F.jpg)
[close]

That intro theme tho :doge

(http://i.imgur.com/VoVgLlH.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/qKMOO91.jpg)
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: chronovore on December 18, 2016, 09:43:40 PM
Right! Martin Raperman/Verdingus Murder. That guy may have just been using a chatbot to generate thread responses. A tryhard looking for reactions. Creepy Stalker seemed sincere.

sincerely dangerous

Well, yeah. I just meant that Raperman was pretending to be crazy.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Positive Touch on December 18, 2016, 10:28:46 PM
Execute narold

a jury of his peers will most likely do this one day
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: VomKriege on October 22, 2017, 11:13:05 AM
OK I just realized something :mindblown and it would be lost in the GAF thread.

So the head dev of The Last Night is frenchman Tim Soret. I didn't realize until now that Tim Soret is Tim, the current admin of Gamerama, a French videogame site (primarily a message board). He became admin a few years back when he salvaged the site from the previous owners who weren't interested in dealing with the costs and management anymore.

Gamerama is in fact pretty close to the Bore, it's mostly a splinter forum from one of the main review sites in France, Gamekult. Like TheBore, they have a thread to shitpost on dumb Gamekult posters and its moderation. I'd say however that it's maybe a notch up on edgy political opinions. Not VOAT level, mind you, more like if there was more etiolate like users (still with a healthy population of leftists).

I only realized that a few minutes ago and now it makes so much more sense why a segment of Gaffers lost their shit, even without reading them. It's an imperfect comparison but it would be a bit like if benjipwns designed a game around the premise that states are evil in essence then went on interviews benjiing and making sarcastic jokes against delusions of omnipotent Russian intelligence involvement in US politics. You can imagine how that could have played on GAF (RIP) (LOL).

Ok and why am I writing this here ? Well guess from where I recognize the name Creepy Stalker before his short stint here ?
 :D
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 22, 2017, 12:23:25 PM
Quoi?
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Rufus on October 22, 2017, 12:48:21 PM
Aw man, I was getting ready for a big reveal, but I guess a hit of "tiny world we live in" will do as well.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: VomKriege on October 22, 2017, 12:57:47 PM
Aw man, I was getting ready for a big reveal, but I guess a hit of "tiny world we live in" will do as well.

It's a small world of bitter assholes on splinter forums.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: benjipwns on October 22, 2017, 10:32:40 PM
then went on interviews benjiing and making sarcastic jokes against delusions of omnipotent Russian intelligence involvement in US politics. You can imagine how that could have played on GAF (RIP) (LOL).
I don't do French :snob

the funny thing is that his waypoint interview gave the impression that the game was set in the world that NeoGAF.com was constantly wringing their hands hoping for to come about so they can lament it, one with an universal income and robots/technology doing all jobs and more importantly ALL ART so there's nothing for humans to do but degenerate, but this somehow translated into his game being set in a feminazi-ran dystopia with a brave alt-right resistance that would lower taxes or something because back in 2014 in bad english he posted something with a #gamergate hashtag :lol
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Tasty on October 23, 2017, 12:09:12 AM
Free Creepy Stalker.

Leper Dufus.

Ban Opiate.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 03, 2018, 12:26:19 PM
:trumps
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: bork on January 03, 2018, 12:44:47 PM
We banned dude in what, 2015?  And yet he was last active here two months ago...and one guest is currently browsing the archived Creepy Stalker thread.
 :busta
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on January 03, 2018, 01:13:11 PM
We are all Creepy Stalker now.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Bf6jEhpZs2TGE/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Momo on January 03, 2018, 01:28:02 PM
replace the wwf with the bore and rick flair with disingenuous trans talk, mods = vince, Creepy Stalker = nwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7aQP4dXFgs
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: bork on January 03, 2018, 01:32:34 PM
replace the wwf with the bore and rick flair with disingenuous trans talk, mods = vince, Creepy Stalker = nwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7aQP4dXFgs

Creepy Stalker World Order?!
(http://media.giphy.com/media/2tnDlYxl0l248/giphy.gif)(http://media.giphy.com/media/fQdFfCz71P5vi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 22, 2018, 09:49:30 PM
The time is now.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on July 22, 2018, 09:51:16 PM
But when is now?
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2018, 09:57:11 PM
But when is now?

Soon.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: naff on July 22, 2018, 09:58:08 PM
Don't free anyone, just let 'em loose in a daddy p thread or the other forums thread to view like special fellow goldfish
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
Not that it matters anymore, but I'd put all the Daddy P and Q threads in the leper forum and make anyone discussing those topics seriously full leper status.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 22, 2018, 10:03:13 PM
Hi folks. As TheBore gets back to a more healthy, grounded, rational place, I've been asked by several folks about their account status. We all know a big clusterfuck happened in April/May, but there's a lot that went down actively against the interests of the site and the community that the present sysadmins and I did not know about. Our old platform had terrible system logging and there was one shortfall in particular that ended up causing problems: permanent bans were on an unsortable list that couldn't be checked over expediently to see if something was amiss. We relied on manual ban recording by mods and admins and general communication, and I vetted those aspects and the non-broken temporary ban list in the admin panel, and referred to the very inefficient raw moderation/system logs when something seemed fishy.

Mods and admins are human. demi selects TheBore mods carefully, but sometimes they don't turn out to be good fits when they take on the role. And sometimes, it turns out, one will work in secret and lie to everyone and sabotage the forum in various ways if the opportunity presents and they get emotionally tilted. That happened.

In 2018 US election primaries season, it appears some bias entered the picture on the moderation team regarding pro-communist sentiment and anti-Holodomor sentiment that ended up with many of our reasonable Holodomor denouncers banned under suspicious justification. A lot of this happened in the "PoliBore" subcommunity thread, however, which was very active but not something I kept enough tabs on since it was more like a chat room at times. Throughout the 2018 election season, Republican/conservative leaning voices were shouted out and baited by the community itself and some members of the mod team into getting banned, in part because of the lead-up where the forum was turning bizarrely aggressive with its communist support after incubating in that PoliBore community thread. TheBore became one of the top 5 referring urls in the world to Stalin's campaign website according to Vice News. This was...weird.

Then the election happened and capitalism won. One of our ex-admins, bork, got angry about election-related matters and actively sabotaged the forum. He logged his bans that were justifiable within the site rules, and generally gave people appropriate ban explanation messages in those cases. However, he also banned several hundred more people in quick succession, out of anger, for *not being angry enough* about the election. He didn't log these bans administratively, he generally told the users something along the lines of "fuck off" in the user-facing message, and he lied to me at every turn when I was mobilizing to find out what the hell was going on with Off-Topic that seemed to be depriving it of all maturity, reason, sense, and moderate opinion suddenly. Finally I saw something suspicious enough play out that I checked the system logs, and everything revealed itself plainly. We were descending into madness because all the sane people were being stealth banned en masse by bork. I reviewed approximately 100 of the stealth bans one by one and reversed ~90% of them per the actual rules governing the site. But discourse here was already falling apart and our old platform sucked for communicating with users during mod actions, so people started account suiciding after I reversed the bans -- rightfully pissed off about the unjust nature of them. It was all a mess and I focused on trying to be a voice of reason on TheBore itself and get the mod team onto a more neutral page going forward instead of going through the remainder of the bork bans.

Anyway, fast forward to May's big drama. Angry mobs aren't rational actors. The people tasked with calming down angry mobs in a non-violent, just manner....well, sometimes they spray the crowd with rubber bullets and concussion grenades instead. Recently it's come to light that at least one of our ex-moderators mass stealth banned reasonable voices during the May drama who were saying nothing inappropriate and just arguing for a bit of calm. This changed my perception of events, too; it sank my heart to see my community apparently so willing to burn this place to the ground and say horrible, untrue things. But...a lot of the reasonable people were being actively silenced by rogue moderation. This came as quite a shock, but made sense immediately when I found out who it was. It also explained why about 75% of my PMs were supportive and yet it seemed like everyone on the forum itself was screaming for death and destruction. This was not a coincidence.

After that, too, we had an overstressed skeleton crew here and I knew there had been bad actors in the mix during everything, since private conversations under NDA had been leaked and so forth, so I brought in pro contractors for a while to moderate the forum while we regrouped and got some much needed rest. They weren't, shall we say, big on nuance or critical thinking. They were more following a simple flowchart and using a sledgehammer, so a lot of people got permed for relatively benign things and I don't know that it actually helped matters any in retrospect.

Way too many people lost their accounts unjustly. I apologize for my part in it. It was a difficult time and we didn't have great tools on the old-ass platform to detect foul play, and besides that the political circus in the United States introduced significant bias into the site moderation here.

I've pulled the rest of bork's post-election permanent bans, and the permanent bans performed by the ex-mod who stealth banned over 100 regulars simply for not participating in the witch hunt going on last May (sigh, what a wretched way to be), as well as a big chunk of the April/May permanent bans site-wide that were not performed up to our typical standards. I will review each ban personally, one by one, and reverse them as appropriate.

If you or someone you know has been banned unjustly, especially if it was around the time of the May 2018 drama or the post-election drama around socialism/Holodomor time, or any other politically charged time like that, care will be taken to ensure fairness to you, so feel free to disclose it to me. I have a list of several hundred accounts from the known saboteur mods I will begin reviewing now and update with the results in here. If you would like your account reviewed and don't currently have TheBore posting access, email support@thebore.com with Ban Review Request in the title and your account name in the body and I will add it to my list. Or tweet @TheBore with the same info.

If you ended up re-registering already and have a second account in good standing here that replaced your banned account, no worries, we're not going to punish for punishment's sake. Just mention it in this thread or PM me if you'd prefer discretion, note what your old account name was and anything you'd like to note about the circumstances, and I'll review your situation personally. In many cases I will be able to restore your old account and merge it with your new account so that you retain everything new and get your old account and post history reintegrated, too.

If you foamed at the mouth and posted a bunch of pictures of dead kids, well, maybe PM me with some words about it. Time has passed and it was an intense situation where a lot of people were behaving irrationally. Some folks I've know on here for a long time participated in unfortunate, hurtful behavior. I'll tackle all that case by case too and I will hear everyone out. No guarantees in those cases, 'course.

We had at least a couple aggressively malicious actors internally that drastically changed outcomes at key moments in TheBore's recent history. Hundreds of bad bans happened directly against the policies and interests of the site and community. Things are chill here again and operating as intended and people are starting to want their accounts back. Time to undo some damage. Sorry for the mess, but let's get housekeeping.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: naff on July 22, 2018, 10:03:27 PM
The ultimate truth of The Bore is we need adversity to drive discussion. The most active threads are always the ones with unyielding circular debates. Y'all will even engage Assimilate endlessly for want of someone better to endlessly contradict you.

Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
:snore :no1curr
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: curly on July 22, 2018, 10:22:48 PM
Hi folks. As TheBore gets back to a more healthy, grounded, rational place, I've been asked by several folks about their account status. We all know a big clusterfuck happened in April/May, but there's a lot that went down actively against the interests of the site and the community that the present sysadmins and I did not know about. Our old platform had terrible system logging and there was one shortfall in particular that ended up causing problems: permanent bans were on an unsortable list that couldn't be checked over expediently to see if something was amiss. We relied on manual ban recording by mods and admins and general communication, and I vetted those aspects and the non-broken temporary ban list in the admin panel, and referred to the very inefficient raw moderation/system logs when something seemed fishy.

Mods and admins are human. demi selects TheBore mods carefully, but sometimes they don't turn out to be good fits when they take on the role. And sometimes, it turns out, one will work in secret and lie to everyone and sabotage the forum in various ways if the opportunity presents and they get emotionally tilted. That happened.

In 2018 US election primaries season, it appears some bias entered the picture on the moderation team regarding pro-communist sentiment and anti-Holodomor sentiment that ended up with many of our reasonable Holodomor denouncers banned under suspicious justification. A lot of this happened in the "PoliBore" subcommunity thread, however, which was very active but not something I kept enough tabs on since it was more like a chat room at times. Throughout the 2018 election season, Republican/conservative leaning voices were shouted out and baited by the community itself and some members of the mod team into getting banned, in part because of the lead-up where the forum was turning bizarrely aggressive with its communist support after incubating in that PoliBore community thread. TheBore became one of the top 5 referring urls in the world to Stalin's campaign website according to Vice News. This was...weird.

Then the election happened and capitalism won. One of our ex-admins, bork, got angry about election-related matters and actively sabotaged the forum. He logged his bans that were justifiable within the site rules, and generally gave people appropriate ban explanation messages in those cases. However, he also banned several hundred more people in quick succession, out of anger, for *not being angry enough* about the election. He didn't log these bans administratively, he generally told the users something along the lines of "fuck off" in the user-facing message, and he lied to me at every turn when I was mobilizing to find out what the hell was going on with Off-Topic that seemed to be depriving it of all maturity, reason, sense, and moderate opinion suddenly. Finally I saw something suspicious enough play out that I checked the system logs, and everything revealed itself plainly. We were descending into madness because all the sane people were being stealth banned en masse by bork. I reviewed approximately 100 of the stealth bans one by one and reversed ~90% of them per the actual rules governing the site. But discourse here was already falling apart and our old platform sucked for communicating with users during mod actions, so people started account suiciding after I reversed the bans -- rightfully pissed off about the unjust nature of them. It was all a mess and I focused on trying to be a voice of reason on TheBore itself and get the mod team onto a more neutral page going forward instead of going through the remainder of the bork bans.

Anyway, fast forward to May's big drama. Angry mobs aren't rational actors. The people tasked with calming down angry mobs in a non-violent, just manner....well, sometimes they spray the crowd with rubber bullets and concussion grenades instead. Recently it's come to light that at least one of our ex-moderators mass stealth banned reasonable voices during the May drama who were saying nothing inappropriate and just arguing for a bit of calm. This changed my perception of events, too; it sank my heart to see my community apparently so willing to burn this place to the ground and say horrible, untrue things. But...a lot of the reasonable people were being actively silenced by rogue moderation. This came as quite a shock, but made sense immediately when I found out who it was. It also explained why about 75% of my PMs were supportive and yet it seemed like everyone on the forum itself was screaming for death and destruction. This was not a coincidence.

After that, too, we had an overstressed skeleton crew here and I knew there had been bad actors in the mix during everything, since private conversations under NDA had been leaked and so forth, so I brought in pro contractors for a while to moderate the forum while we regrouped and got some much needed rest. They weren't, shall we say, big on nuance or critical thinking. They were more following a simple flowchart and using a sledgehammer, so a lot of people got permed for relatively benign things and I don't know that it actually helped matters any in retrospect.

Way too many people lost their accounts unjustly. I apologize for my part in it. It was a difficult time and we didn't have great tools on the old-ass platform to detect foul play, and besides that the political circus in the United States introduced significant bias into the site moderation here.

I've pulled the rest of bork's post-election permanent bans, and the permanent bans performed by the ex-mod who stealth banned over 100 regulars simply for not participating in the witch hunt going on last May (sigh, what a wretched way to be), as well as a big chunk of the April/May permanent bans site-wide that were not performed up to our typical standards. I will review each ban personally, one by one, and reverse them as appropriate.

If you or someone you know has been banned unjustly, especially if it was around the time of the May 2018 drama or the post-election drama around socialism/Holodomor time, or any other politically charged time like that, care will be taken to ensure fairness to you, so feel free to disclose it to me. I have a list of several hundred accounts from the known saboteur mods I will begin reviewing now and update with the results in here. If you would like your account reviewed and don't currently have TheBore posting access, email support@thebore.com with Ban Review Request in the title and your account name in the body and I will add it to my list. Or tweet @TheBore with the same info.

If you ended up re-registering already and have a second account in good standing here that replaced your banned account, no worries, we're not going to punish for punishment's sake. Just mention it in this thread or PM me if you'd prefer discretion, note what your old account name was and anything you'd like to note about the circumstances, and I'll review your situation personally. In many cases I will be able to restore your old account and merge it with your new account so that you retain everything new and get your old account and post history reintegrated, too.

If you foamed at the mouth and posted a bunch of pictures of dead kids, well, maybe PM me with some words about it. Time has passed and it was an intense situation where a lot of people were behaving irrationally. Some folks I've know on here for a long time participated in unfortunate, hurtful behavior. I'll tackle all that case by case too and I will hear everyone out. No guarantees in those cases, 'course.

We had at least a couple aggressively malicious actors internally that drastically changed outcomes at key moments in TheBore's recent history. Hundreds of bad bans happened directly against the policies and interests of the site and community. Things are chill here again and operating as intended and people are starting to want their accounts back. Time to undo some damage. Sorry for the mess, but let's get housekeeping.

could you explain further
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: agrajag on July 22, 2018, 10:45:36 PM
:snore :no1curr

You're a worthless and slimy piece of shit. If you don't want to participate in the thread then get the fuck out.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2018, 10:55:01 PM
:snore :no1curr

You're a worthless and slimy piece of shit. If you don't want to participate in the thread then get the fuck out.


???
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: agrajag on July 22, 2018, 11:02:05 PM
:snore :no1curr

You're a worthless and slimy piece of shit. If you don't want to participate in the thread then get the fuck out.


???

posting random etiolate quotes is fun.  :heartbeat
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker?
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2018, 11:03:12 PM
I think my fave etoilet quote is "I'm a fucking idiot." Though I might be incorrectly remembering the exact phrasing.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:07:29 PM
wait...this isn't a filler thread, *looks at OP*

OH MY DOG, IT'S A TRAP, EVERYBODY OUT
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:08:42 PM
:snore :no1curr

You're a worthless and slimy piece of shit. If you don't want to participate in the thread then get the fuck out.


???

posting random etiolate quotes is fun.  :heartbeat
I am anti-nonsense and anti-bullshit.

And pretty anti-thebore because of the true vile nature of people here.

I don't have a political tribe, because that ends up with you defending bullshit and nonsense. People here think I'm conservative or whatever because they haven't ran into certain ideas of information before. Though it may be that anyone who disagrees with them has to be right wing. A lot of people here are only a feather's throw away from REEEEEEEEEEEset.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:09:30 PM
:snore :no1curr

You're a worthless and slimy piece of shit. If you don't want to participate in the thread then get the fuck out.


???

posting random etiolate quotes is fun.  :heartbeat
I am anti-nonsense and anti-bullshit.

And pretty anti-thebore because of the true vile nature of people here.

I don't have a political tribe, because that ends up with you defending bullshit and nonsense. People here think I'm conservative or whatever because they haven't ran into certain ideas of information before. Though it may be that anyone who disagrees with them has to be right wing. A lot of people here are only a feather's throw away from REEEEEEEEEEEset.
Maybe it's because we're open-minded individuals that actually consider all sides of an issue instead of being morons who copy-paste the opinion spoonfed to us by neoliberal corporate media. I might as well be talking to CNN writers in this thread with you fucking idiots in it.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2018, 11:11:16 PM
The ultimate truth of The Bore is we need adversity to drive discussion. The most active threads are always the ones with unyielding circular debates. Y'all will even engage Assimilate endlessly for want of someone better to endlessly contradict you.

Nah.

There was like a solid year or two where I'd say the majority of people here got along without massive shitfits like lately. There was still adversity but they were mostly in disagreements over regular shit like whether a piece of media sucks or not, how you should approach a social situation, etc. Stuff you'd be able to have fun discussing with IRL friends or what have you. Not on whether or not women are vile wretched scum plagued by modern feminism or if IQ is tied to ethnicity. There was shitslinging but it was mostly locker room trash talk over what usually goes down in the offending threads.

I can't say I find myself annoyed by it anymore. Just the bed we made. The honest truth is a lot engage with the assimilates and optimus' because they either fall for weak trolls or just can't help themselves. As there is really nothing to gain from either when they're sticking to their respective schticks.

Neither of us were here for the early years, but 2013-2014 was peak Bore IMO.

2016+ has been relatively shitty in comparison.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 22, 2018, 11:12:04 PM
Creepy Stalker is a considerably more interesting poster than assy or cindi tbh
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:16:06 PM
Not on whether or not women are vile wretched scum plagued by modern feminism or if IQ is tied to ethnicity. There was shitslinging but it was mostly locker room trash talk over what usually goes down in the offending threads.

I can't say I find myself annoyed by it anymore. Just the bed we made. The honest truth is a lot engage with the assimilates and optimus' because they either fall for weak trolls or just can't help themselves. As there is really nothing to gain from either when they're sticking to their respective schticks.
Some of us are trying to help the recent immigrants and refugees accumulate to their new home rather than virulently attacking their "backwards" cultural differences and insulting them just because their former home was a shithole forum where they didn't learn proper human interaction. It's unfortunate that you, Stoney, beaks and others are joined onto the borkian hate train promoting discrimination and silencing of newcomers to our shores, plus demanding digital walls be built. :snob

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Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 22, 2018, 11:21:32 PM
:snore :no1curr

You're a worthless and slimy piece of shit. If you don't want to participate in the thread then get the fuck out.


???

posting random etiolate quotes is fun.  :heartbeat
I am anti-nonsense and anti-bullshit.

And pretty anti-thebore because of the true vile nature of people here.

I don't have a political tribe, because that ends up with you defending bullshit and nonsense. People here think I'm conservative or whatever because they haven't ran into certain ideas of information before. Though it may be that anyone who disagrees with them has to be right wing. A lot of people here are only a feather's throw away from REEEEEEEEEEEset.
Maybe it's because we're open-minded individuals that actually consider all sides of an issue instead of being morons who copy-paste the opinion spoonfed to us by neoliberal corporate media. I might as well be talking to CNN writers in this thread with you fucking idiots in it.

Fired up? I am laughing. You're such a obvious bullshitter. You asked a question of which you had no intent to hear the answer. Just to ask the question is to send a message that is dishonest.

You stick your head in the sand. You didn't want metrics.  You got metrics and selectively heard them. You got explanations you couldn't respond to in any way.

You're hilarious.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 22, 2018, 11:36:32 PM
Do you guys have these saved somewhere  ???

Why do you join conversations that you have no idea how to handle?
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:38:09 PM
Great writers and thinkers always have their best stuff remembered for ages.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 22, 2018, 11:38:32 PM
How bout y'all free this hog from its Levi 511 container
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 22, 2018, 11:41:35 PM
I just realized that there was a wasted opportunity for a good one, and I am going to retroactively use it, in another thread.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:45:44 PM
I just realized that there was a wasted opportunity for a good one, and I am going to retroactively use it, in another thread.
I left the thread because I saw too many hateful sociapaths doing their thing in that thread and I didn't want to be associated with the forum anymore.

The sociopathy was also the point of the Nintendo thread. Beware of those that are seeking to attack, hurt or dehumanize others, but do so by selectively picking their targets. They seek out those they feel others won't defend and then bully them. Normal healthy people don't lash out like that. They have no need or desire to do so.

Considering the long history of bullshit thrown my way on this forum (and still in this thread), then I do get to do an Itoldyaso. I am also giving people a what's up while they're asking what's up.

So, no, fuck you.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:46:33 PM
Don't complain about a lack of kindness when you were willing to pile on people.

I think you saw my tolerance of certain bad behaviors towards me and thought I would be cool. It's not that I lack kindness, I just have to have some self-preservation. You can only wait so long on others before you're hurting yourself. One of my mistakes when I was here previously was the very kindness you thought you'd get. I was told by someone to realize that thebore is all fucked up and to stop trying. I took that advice.

So this isn't about my smug enjoyment. I'm seeing if, after the shit has hit the fan, if anyone is up for listening to someone who isn't shocked by the events. Are you going to have a real talk or am I repeating the same mistake?

"I don't actually know anything" so don't call people monsters? "Not going to decorate my days with hatred" That's exactly what you do when you act like these people are monsters. "they doxx attack wimins" No, that's BS, and you repeat the BS because you are fine with spewing hatred at these people without knowing anything.

I don't have to assume anything about "you people" because you people is the forum. It's based on what you have said. As in, it comes from interacting with you. Your opinion on these groups is based on no interaction or knowledge. It's based on second hand word of mouth from sociopaths and dishonest media.

I'm not here to gloat. I'm here to see, as I stated, if you're sobered up by the election and ready to learn anything or is everyone still a bunch of mental, petty shit piles.

Just because I don't say it nicely doesn't mean I'm upset or disingenuous. I just learned the last time not to waste energy flowering it up.

If you don't want to swallow pride then fine. That shows your true colors. Don't anyone say they worry about their minority friends and then refuse to realize what happened to cause this. It's empty, nutless virtue signaling.

Try some introspection.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: curly on July 22, 2018, 11:49:06 PM

The sociopathy was also the point of the Nintendo thread.

A man requires a link
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: Mandark on July 22, 2018, 11:53:12 PM
That might be the old one where he compared trolling Nintendo fans online to persecuting gay people in the days of yore.

That shit is like the Rosetta Stone for decoding how et thinks.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:53:25 PM

The sociopathy was also the point of the Nintendo thread.

A man requires a link
When you're not a sociopath then it's not about your ego.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 22, 2018, 11:55:21 PM
Don't complain about a lack of kindness when you were willing to pile on people.

I think you saw my tolerance of certain bad behaviors towards me and thought I would be cool. It's not that I lack kindness, I just have to have some self-preservation. You can only wait so long on others before you're hurting yourself. One of my mistakes when I was here previously was the very kindness you thought you'd get. I was told by someone to realize that thebore is all fucked up and to stop trying. I took that advice.

So this isn't about my smug enjoyment. I'm seeing if, after the shit has hit the fan, if anyone is up for listening to someone who isn't shocked by the events. Are you going to have a real talk or am I repeating the same mistake?

"I don't actually know anything" so don't call people monsters? "Not going to decorate my days with hatred" That's exactly what you do when you act like these people are monsters. "they doxx attack wimins" No, that's BS, and you repeat the BS because you are fine with spewing hatred at these people without knowing anything.

I don't have to assume anything about "you people" because you people is the forum. It's based on what you have said. As in, it comes from interacting with you. Your opinion on these groups is based on no interaction or knowledge. It's based on second hand word of mouth from sociopaths and dishonest media.

I'm not here to gloat. I'm here to see, as I stated, if you're sobered up by the election and ready to learn anything or is everyone still a bunch of mental, petty shit piles.

Just because I don't say it nicely doesn't mean I'm upset or disingenuous. I just learned the last time not to waste energy flowering it up.

If you don't want to swallow pride then fine. That shows your true colors. Don't anyone say they worry about their minority friends and then refuse to realize what happened to cause this. It's empty, nutless virtue signaling.

Try some introspection.

I only check your posts when you're making a ton and it's obvious that it's probably you begging for my attention. If you were at all interesting then you wouldn't be on ignore. I put you on ignore thinking that the silence would put you out of your misery but unfortunately you've gone even further towards obsession.

Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 11:59:04 PM
i was trying to find that post when he came back randomly for a couple hours and told us all how vile we are and that he simply takes his fill of our filth and then departs and stumbled onto these post-election ones

but shosta, it's not so much that you have to save or remember these, as much as just go find where he posted a bunch of they just pour out...from a random poli-Bore page:

etoliate annihilating me for questioning his nonsenscial response of "this from the paper that posts rape hoaxes" to an article from Taibbi about how shitty Roger Ailes was:
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I take you non-seriously, so don't try to be serious.

etoliate annihilating beaks for questioning his Seth Rich facts:
Quote
I didn't buy into that. You just outed yourself as an idiot. Possible illiteracy. Possible learning disorder.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 12:01:11 AM
I just go to his profile, click "show posts" and fish for good ones.

Also, benji is right, you have to know where to look. All you have to remember is the general thread where he posted something memorable. Like the famous specter one was in US Politics. A bunch of good ones are in Wank Dad, etc.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: Mandark on July 23, 2018, 12:03:42 AM
Not gonna look for it but one of my favorite sequences was benji asking et to define the "post-irony" stuff in a useful way, and et getting gradually madder and madder at him.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:07:26 AM
looking for that Nintendo thing, came across when i used to post this type of garbage in the Nintendo threads :lol
The only real problem I have with E-Sports is the pervasive anti-Nintendo bias. Also, the fact that not all of us need to overcompensate for our short comings by blowing things up or destroying others, how about rewards for working together to build something that will last a lifetime? Like memories in The Sims or a great farm on FarmVille or memorable afternoon mastering a public domain tune in Wii Music or an enlightened walking city in SimCity. I think then culture will sit up and take notice of just how much soul and intrinsic meaning gaming can have.

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Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 12:08:35 AM
Benji used to be a Nintenyearold?

 :gladbron
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:14:13 AM
nah, it was the WiiU era, and everyone here was properly dogging on the thing, so i'd take the delusion from the GAF threads and rework it slightly and post it just for "funny" "defenses" of it, plus the constant theories about USB dongles or "secret sauce" that would be unlocked in a firmware update, and then i was trying to outpace their delusions as the thing kept failing harder but GAF kept catching up to me, that's mainly why i dropped it :lol

it's like how we try to keep in front of ERA's mods/zeitgeist but keep falling short
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 12:15:49 AM
Well, SORRY for thinking that benji would make an earnest post for once.

Now if you'll excuse me, I am going to hug my Wii U and go cry in a corner.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 12:16:53 AM
Well, EXCUSE ME for thinking that benji would make an earnest post for once.
Yeah, I don't know why you would ever make a rookie mistake like that.

stop quoting my posts before I decide to edit them
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: Mandark on July 23, 2018, 12:17:19 AM
You should read the old posts where benji pretended to be an ancap, those were the best.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: Mandark on July 23, 2018, 12:20:51 AM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=26261.0

This is the "Nintendo thread" I think he was talking about.

Hollywood actually did the heavy lifting, but gets written out of history like Bill Finger or Bernie Taupin.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 12:23:23 AM
stop quoting my posts before I decide to edit them
Are you mad because I always edit mine before you can quote?  :teehee

Also I don't know why you changed it, I thought it was a nice reference to this classic refrain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxY8lpYAUM

Actually, I've had ample opportunities to humiliate you, but I felt sympathy and spared you. I will NOT be making that mistake again.

 :bolo
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:24:09 AM
Well, SORRY for thinking that benji would make an earnest post for once.

Now if you'll excuse me, I am going to hug my Wii U and go cry in a corner.
I was a PC/Wii gamer that gen. Simply because the 360/PS3 took forever to drop in price and most of the true exclusives (i.e. not on PC) didn't interest me enough. And I needed Metroid Prime 3, then roommates and friends loved the dumb thing, then I homebrewed it up. I played a bunch of the crappy online games and made some posts about it here, like the Call of Duty's, etc. because it was sorta fascinating in how they went about it.

The one year for the GAF GOTY I think I was the only person to list Order Up! for the Wii. (And rank Defense Grid #1.) Think that was MGS4 year.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 12:26:58 AM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=26261.0

This is the "Nintendo thread" I think he was talking about.

Hollywood actually did the heavy lifting, but gets written out of history like Bill Finger or Bernie Taupin.


It's always sad reading these old threads and seeing all these posters who have moved on and no longer post here. Like, it's sad reading the old graveyard threads on GAF and seeing all the gray names too, but those posters weren't removed of their own volition. The ones on the Bore just realized "hey, I have better things to do with my life than to waste it here." Yet here I am, digging up etiolate posts for Shosta's amusement.

 :goty2
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:28:39 AM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=26261.0

This is the "Nintendo thread" I think he was talking about.

Hollywood actually did the heavy lifting, but gets written out of history like Bill Finger or Bernie Taupin.
notice, nearly all the people that actually bothered to engage with etoliate are still hanging around this trash heap while the first page is generally up in the rafters* :american

*or dead in a gutter somewhere
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:31:00 AM
Quote from: Flannel Boy to TVC
On the bright side, you've written and posted several erotic, though highly disturbing, short stories involving necrophilia.
posted in 2008 or 2018? i report, you decide
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:34:18 AM
K. Why are you here talking about gamer gate?

No one in the real world gives a fuck

Because understanding GG required understanding issues with the media, backlash against social justice crap, and post-irony. Those three elements fed into Trump's win. If you understood at that time how empty racism and sexism accusations are then people would see the Trump stuff wouldn't have mattered as much. Not because there isn't real issue with that or no real racists, but because the accusations lost their strength via misuse. Victim culture and Trolling feed off of each other, because both mock or attack sincerity. I have to wonder how many people voted Trump while believing he was not sincere about various things, but that he also wasn't BSing them. That weird double belief exists via post-irony are because of the things post-irony does to sincerity.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 12:38:29 AM
Skimming through et's posts about Wank Daddy, it's dawned on me that this is exactly what Ass is doing and just rewording his dumb arguments.

Quote from: etiolate
"peddler of junk psychology"

His writings have been cited over 9000 times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik

is this post-irony?
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:39:40 AM
i forgot how long the post-irony thing went on, there's posts at least back in 2013 about it...
Quote from: etoliate, in relationship thread
1. I don't know how much of Shinobi to take seriously. This is a problem with the internet and post-irony.
2. Most of you view others as cartoon characters instead of real people. This makes any sort of discussion like this hard.

Continue on with being pieces of shit now.

2014:
Quote from: etoliate, in one of the GAF threads
coli smileys are just a sign of communication going to shit
Quote from: etoliate
I said a sign of communication going to shit, as in a product of poor communication. Not a reason or a cause. They represent emotional reactions. You can see them as representing a trend favoring charged reactionary responses instead of informative or rational respones. They can represent the subsequent mocking of emotional responses. From there, you have the post-ironic attack upon sincerity and emotion, and the post-ironic's self-serving attitude of still not offering any alternative to what it attacks because it'd rather just mock a reaction than partake in conversation.

(Yeah, I'll keep hammering on post-irony.)

You would understand that if your communication values were higher. *emoticon here to inform other of emotional charge of text, perhaps a hoity-toity nerd face*
Quote from: etoliate
:umad  is a prime example of attacking emotional responses while doing nothing but encouraging or living within those emotional responses

and just two months ago:
I am telling you that I have gone through tons of self-reflection. It's an active process of my life. I actually tried changing approaches and words, but int he end, it's just high school behavior.

You're all caught up in the mob mentality of this forum. Get out of your comfort zones.

I am also bored with this conversation.

Wraith: I've left before. I'm here because as things change and the changes become more apparent, I am curious how the people here deal with it.  Post-irony was one of the topics that people sperged on me in the past for, but it's hard to ignore its existence now or its prevalence. But maybe this forum can? If its hellbent against it because of an association with me? I don't know. I just know that people should have gotten a wake up call and many haven't. It's interesting.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 12:42:16 AM
I also liked how he always called Wrath Wraith. It's the subtle details that usually go unnoticed.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:48:03 AM
for you shosta, from an old GAF thread, a Finale Fireworker State of the Union:
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This election froze us in time. It is a stake in the ground and we are all on leashes. We can only go so far from it, and when we reach the end up our rope, all we can do is run in circles.

This is what happens when people can't cope with what they thought was impossible. The election was a point of immense trauma for people. America is experiencing collective PTSD. It is the most generationally defining event in American history since 9/11.

People don't know how to move on. How can they? Lots of media and satire prepared is for an "Idiocracy" future. There were sitcoms and movies and TV shows that joked about a post-modern politics based on total degradation of reality in favor of dangerous cartoonery. But none of this media prepared us for what would come next. We are in territory uncharted even by fantasy.

This gripping fear of the modern unknown is what keeps people trapped in 2016. 2016 was the last time things made sense. People don't have the stomach to power through current day. Instead, they relentlessly pedal backwards with their gaze fixed on the last time they weren't afraid.

When this grips even the most passive progressive, and dominates their rhetoric, the right responds directly to it. This keeps the conversation stuck in the past. It also helps that the election was the big and triumphant argument that the right WON. So of course they will continue to milk it and reference it and cling to it for reassurance and validation. Why don't all these liberals fall in line? Don't they know they lost? Remember the election??
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: curly on July 23, 2018, 12:54:40 AM
I ended up in the gw2 thread and the interactions between pd, etoilet, and dufus are hilarious. They're each so annoying in their own way.
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 12:56:07 AM
this is probably the only forum to ever have to make a non-GW2 MMO thread because the regular MMO thread was being dominated by it
Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: curly on July 23, 2018, 12:59:41 AM
A highlight from the gw2 thread:

By that logic, Barack Obama must be the most *incoherently screeching* man in the world.


Title: Re: Free Creepy Stalker? No, oppressive moderation!
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 01:04:43 AM
My absolute favorite fireworker post which I will never find is the one where he talks about how he's struggling to make ends meet and that donating to Ossoff was really hard on his financial situation but he knew that it was important to do his part.  :american
Might be in this thread like this post: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/georgia-special-election-heads-to-runoff-as-ossoff-earns-48-of-vote.1361139/page-14#post-234203545
Quote from: Finale Fireworker
If Ossoff doesn't win, I will be very disappointed. I will probably contact various maritime antique brokers and collectors of vintage naval equipment to procure a surviving pirate canon salvaged from the Caribbean sea floor. I will painstakingly restore the barrel, spend a fortune recreating its original mounting, and learn how to properly load and fire the device in a way that preserves the gun.

I will then load it with gunpowder, stamp it down with the prod, light the fuse, and stick my stupid head inside. So long, head.
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Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 01:05:21 AM
Anyways, after having reached level 81 jewelcrafting and level 121 cooking I can say crafting in this game is beyond awful.
I mean when I'm not having fun I just stop playing

That's why you are not a Dufus
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Post by: agrajag on July 23, 2018, 01:27:24 AM
ok since you persisted, I read your posts Nola

I agree that Frozen isn't any more propaganda than others. You are agreeing in a way that there exists non-temporal stories, but a sec on that.

I disagree that Frozen is less propaganda than religious parable, because religions that survive are adapted things. Frozen isn't designed to be non-temporal. I think its mostly the product of market research. It was immensely popular. Peterson is assuming that since what Frozen spits out is what audience expect to hear at this very moment that its propaganda, but that assumes intent in what it spits out. I believe there was no intent for the result of the message. The intent was just to make money and that intent created the regurgitation. The regurgitation is temporal.
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Post by: Rufus on July 23, 2018, 05:55:29 AM
i forgot how long the post-irony thing went on, there's posts at least back in 2013 about it...
Quote from: etoliate, in relationship thread
1. I don't know how much of Shinobi to take seriously. This is a problem with the internet and post-irony.
2. Most of you view others as cartoon characters instead of real people. This makes any sort of discussion like this hard.

Continue on with being pieces of shit now.
This one is kind of blowing my mind. It's like a one-two punch to his own face, but he doesn't even blink.