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Title: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: thehunter116 on November 09, 2017, 05:04:32 PM
http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy


 :lawd :preach :heyman :lucas
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 09, 2017, 05:06:52 PM
meh
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TVC15 on November 09, 2017, 05:30:54 PM
I kinda don't want the dude to be stuck making Star Wars all his life but the movies will probably be good so that's cool.

Hopefully he just does the first one and produces the rest. I think he has a great movie in him and I don’t want him wasting too much time on franchise garbo.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2017, 05:36:36 PM
He's only committed to writing and directing the first of this trilogy. Wants to JJ this shit.

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In shepherding this new trilogy, which is separate from the episodic Skywalker saga, Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored.
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Johnson and Bergman said in a joint statement. “Star Wars is the greatest modern mythology and we feel very lucky to have contributed to it. We can’t wait to continue with this new series of films.”
So it'll be from something Star Wars have never explored before, but the great part is how it's the greatest modern mythology! Which consists solely of nine films and one animated series to date mostly focused on the angst of one family and some bit characters who all died?

But to drop the snark, it does make you wonder what exactly will make it Star Wars (especially if it doesn't involve the Empire, the Republic or the Jedi/Sith)?

Also caught a weird typo in just the one line of the release:
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As writer-director of The Last Jedi, Johnson conceived and realized a powerful film of which Lucasfilm and Disney are immensely proud
:confused
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 09, 2017, 05:40:52 PM
stahp. please.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
Don't overly care about the director in this case. Just want to see new shit in that universe that isn't just a rehash of Skywalkers, vaders, etc.

Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
Don't overly care about the director in this case. Just want to see new shit in that universe that isn't just a rehash of Skywalkers, vaders, etc.

Yeah, the franchise definitely needs to close the Skywalker chapter more or less with Episode IX. Do something else after that.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Himu on November 09, 2017, 06:15:19 PM
So does this mean Disney is in love with TLJ or what
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: paprikastaude on November 09, 2017, 06:17:09 PM
 :hhh

This is not a franchise that needed Marvel-fication. I'm already sick of the revival 2 years in.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: chronovore on November 09, 2017, 06:24:17 PM
So does this mean Disney is in love with TLJ or what

Very definitely.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Boogie on November 09, 2017, 07:10:55 PM
:hhh

This is not a franchise that needed Marvel-fication. I'm already sick of the revival 2 years in.

But the idea of Rian Johnson having a clean(-ish) slate to craft his Star Wars saga......I can't deny it, I'm in.  :noah

 I almost feel like I'd prefer this to him doing Episode 9 after all.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: chronovore on November 09, 2017, 08:37:39 PM
:hhh

This is not a franchise that needed Marvel-fication. I'm already sick of the revival 2 years in.

But the idea of Rian Johnson having a clean(-ish) slate to craft his Star Wars saga......I can't deny it, I'm in.  :noah

 I almost feel like I'd prefer this to him doing Episode 9 after all.

It's not an "almost" for me. I'm definitely up for whatever Rian wants to try in that universe. But I have a strong Rian bias.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 09, 2017, 08:43:09 PM
How many goddamn movies do they have in production at this point? like six?
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 09, 2017, 08:47:00 PM
Not Skywalker stuff? Good.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2017, 09:16:04 PM
How many goddamn movies do they have in production at this point? like six?

I'm honestly surprised that Disney isn't pushing multiple live-action Star Wars TV series at this point, actually.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TVC15 on November 09, 2017, 09:17:29 PM
I hope he goes hard R and gives us the answers about interspecies sex we've had on our minds for the past 4 decades.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2017, 09:30:47 PM
I'm honestly surprised that Disney isn't pushing multiple live-action Star Wars TV series at this point, actually.
why would that be up to them?

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Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
If they made a TV series about Star Wars bounty hunters, I'd watch that.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2017, 09:34:44 PM
what about bounty hunters who cosplay as Star Wars characters, hosted by Steven Seagal
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2017, 09:44:31 PM
I would be interested to see him work through his family issues.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 09, 2017, 10:25:52 PM
Will Episode X be officially part of the MCU?
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on November 09, 2017, 11:20:21 PM
I was honestly kind of hoping that Star Wars would go away for awhile after episode 9, so much for that.

I mean, wouldn't it be best for the long term health of the brand if we were allowed to miss it?
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 09, 2017, 11:35:01 PM
Will Episode X be officially part of the MCU?
Episode X will have Hulk and Ant-man, yeah. 

Planet Hulk is Endor or some stupid shit and Hulk forces ewoks to murder each other in gladiatorial combat for his own amusement. Also Paul Rudd is there. Rated R for graphic violence and brief nudity.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 10, 2017, 12:19:07 AM
What would Disney have to do with Lucasfilm, kiddo? :bobby
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 10, 2017, 12:37:49 AM
Sakaar was more interesting than any recent SW movie, tbh

Give the franchise to Taika Waititi
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 10, 2017, 12:40:13 AM
I was honestly kind of hoping that Star Wars would go away for awhile after episode 9

:heh
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Raist on November 10, 2017, 12:48:23 AM
"New Star Wars trilogy".

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: eleuin on November 10, 2017, 03:02:24 AM
I would be interested to see him work through his family issues.

just retcon his death tbh
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: VomKriege on November 10, 2017, 04:19:51 AM
For an IP that lasts a thousand years.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 10, 2017, 11:22:13 AM
:hhh

This is not a franchise that needed Marvel-fication. I'm already sick of the revival 2 years in.

It is and always was a throwback to old sci fi serials
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: desert punk on November 10, 2017, 01:35:36 PM
I was honestly kind of hoping that Star Wars would go away for awhile after episode 9, so much for that.

I mean, wouldn't it be best for the long term health of the brand if we were allowed to miss it?

Was hoping for that too but I'm not sure what gave me the idea. The MCU is running strong for how long now, 10 years? And there ain't no sign it's slowing down anytime soon. So why should it be different with Star Wars, especially since it's still a "fresh" IP in a certain way, no matter the old movies. And thanks to the nostalgia to said movies it'll keep being a pop culture phenomenon in ten years or even further, when no one gives a shit about Marvel anymore.

I guess the only hope for people who're sick of the franchise, is if Disney's gonna produce a string of movies on par with the prequels  :P
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Diunx on November 10, 2017, 05:30:25 PM
Is Gaf's superstar writter Gary Whitta writing any of them? I quite enjoyed Roguer One, was surprise to see his name pop up.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2017, 02:16:10 AM
The main thing that kinda makes you ugh is that it's kids who grew up on Star Wars and are fanboys of it creating the new universe with this corporate oversight with multimedia plans.

For all its faults, the "Extended Universe" that existed prior initially started off with other sci-fi/fantasy hands propping up the Universe first. Stuff like the Thrawn trilogy or gobs of the Old Republic set material had to be constructed off of references in something that was always promoted as the "middle trilogy" bounded only by Lucas' rules for how the Force worked and the Skywalker lifespans he carved out as off-limits. (Then let all kinds of people into anyway. So you got great characters like DASH RENDAR and his nemesis, a space pimp.)

And a lot of what JJ and the others indicated they love is the same garbage that Lucas eventually revealed was his hand all along when he was able to make the movies entirely by himself unchecked by fellow creators like directors. JJ was 11 when Wars first came out, Rian was 4, Terrio was six months old, Gareth Edwards was two, Gary Whitta was five, the guys they kicked off Solo were two. Kasdan's son is co-writer on Solo.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TVC15 on November 11, 2017, 02:21:43 AM
The main thing that kinda makes you ugh is that it's kids who grew up on Star Wars and are fanboys of it creating the new universe with this corporate oversight with multimedia plans.

For all its faults, the "Extended Universe" that existed prior initially started off with other sci-fi/fantasy hands propping up the Universe first. Stuff like the Thrawn trilogy or gobs of the Old Republic set material had to be constructed off of references in something that was always promoted as the "middle trilogy" bounded only by Lucas' rules for how the Force worked and the Skywalker lifespans he carved out as off-limits. (Then let all kinds of people into anyway. So you got great characters like DASH RENDAR and his nemesis, a space pimp.)

And a lot of what JJ and the others indicated they love is the same garbage that Lucas eventually revealed was his hand all along when he was able to make the movies entirely by himself unchecked by fellow creators like directors. JJ was 11 when Wars first came out, Rian was 4, Terrio was six months old, Gareth Edwards was two, Gary Whitta was five, the guys they kicked off Solo were two. Kasdan's son is co-writer on Solo.

benji can I take off my clothes and masturbate in front of you?
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2017, 03:24:11 AM
Why would you ask such a question?

Of course you can.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Himu on November 11, 2017, 03:30:48 AM
Do you forgive me Benji? :( I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I never meant to imply you doxxed anyone.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: paprikastaude on November 11, 2017, 11:16:28 AM
I was honestly kind of hoping that Star Wars would go away for awhile after episode 9, so much for that.

I mean, wouldn't it be best for the long term health of the brand if we were allowed to miss it?

I would have prefered that, but it was obvious that the unstoppable milking would ensue quickly once they announced the only-2-year gap between episodes and dumb spinoffs between.

I don't care for the MCU either, but it at least makes sense considering the wide range of comics it's based on. How much can you do with Star Wars though, which needs pretty specific elements to not be just a random scifi flick? I.e. the setting could wear off much qicker than even these monster-of-the-week Marvel flicks.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: thehunter116 on November 12, 2017, 07:38:20 AM
Yall are crazy.

Xmas as star wars day is amazing.  :lawd :preach :mouf :delicious
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: agrajag on November 12, 2017, 07:41:52 AM
I think you guys are being a little too "Abe Simpson yelling at clouds" here. Yeah, I get it, you're old and burnt out on the franchise, but they're going to keep their cash cow alive forever and the younger generations --that haven't necessarily even watched the OT or the prequels-- will go see these movies.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2017, 09:17:30 AM
the younger generations --that haven't necessarily even watched the OT or the prequels
The husbands of two of my cousins are divided over this. One refuses to allow his son to see the prequels as they are an OT forward only family, the other lets him have as much Star Wars as he wants.

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Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: agrajag on November 12, 2017, 11:30:45 AM
the younger generations --that haven't necessarily even watched the OT or the prequels
The husbands of two of my cousins are divided over this. One refuses to allow his son to see the prequels as they are an OT forward only family, the other lets him have as much Star Wars as he wants.

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Well, I think one of the husbands is doing the childern a disservice, as they deserve to know the truth about midichlorian lore and the strategic advantages of having the higher ground. What are their feelings towards letting the kids watch the Star Wars Christmas Special?
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 12, 2017, 11:32:14 AM
I was honestly kind of hoping that Star Wars would go away for awhile after episode 9, so much for that.

I mean, wouldn't it be best for the long term health of the brand if we were allowed to miss it?

I would have prefered that, but it was obvious that the unstoppable milking would ensue quickly once they announced the only-2-year gap between episodes and dumb spinoffs between.

I don't care for the MCU either, but it at least makes sense considering the wide range of comics it's based on. How much can you do with Star Wars though, which needs pretty specific elements to not be just a random scifi flick? I.e. the setting could wear off much qicker than even these monster-of-the-week Marvel flicks.

It is and always was a throwback to old sci fi serials
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2017, 11:39:04 AM
Well, I think one of the husbands is doing the childern a disservice, as they deserve to know the truth about midichlorian lore and the strategic advantages of having the higher ground. What are their feelings towards letting the kids watch the Star Wars Christmas Special?
Are you suggesting I offer to babysit when they go to a football game and then show the kids the glory that is the Christmas Special AND my own special cut of the prequel Trilogy which includes The Phantom Menace and then any other Senate/Jedi Council set debate scenes and nothing else. Oh, except the part where Annie slaughters a bunch of kids.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: agrajag on November 12, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
Well, I think one of the husbands is doing the childern a disservice, as they deserve to know the truth about midichlorian lore and the strategic advantages of having the higher ground. What are their feelings towards letting the kids watch the Star Wars Christmas Special?
Are you suggesting I offer to babysit when they go to a football game and then show the kids the glory that is the Christmas Special AND my own special cut of the prequel Trilogy which includes The Phantom Menace and then any other Senate/Jedi Council set debate scenes and nothing else. Oh, except the part where Annie slaughters a bunch of kids.

They're called younglings, kiddo, younglings.

I call for a vote of no confidence in your post.  :lucas
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2017, 11:42:36 AM
It is and always was a throwback to old sci fi serials
IIRC, Lucas said he wanted to get the Flash Gordon rights but couldn't afford it at the time or something. That's a bit of a crazy alternate universe.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: headwalk on November 12, 2017, 11:55:19 AM
It is and always was a throwback to old sci fi serials

it was, now it's a throwback to itself. an unholy fusion of fan fiction and corporate crowd-pleasing.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 12, 2017, 12:12:33 PM
Another benefit to Disney buying 21st Century Fox is that they'd get A New Hope back to give to Lucasfilm. No need to do a reboot then. If that deal falls through I'd definitely think about doing a reboot of Episode IV-VI so that's there's a universal vision for Star Wars and what it means.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 12, 2017, 01:42:41 PM
It is and always was a throwback to old sci fi serials

it was, now it's a throwback to itself. an unholy fusion of fan fiction and corporate crowd-pleasing.

And yet a million marvel movies "makes sense"

I think this is less about a movie studio making sequels (!!) and more about Star Wars being treated as some sacred cow that it never was. It was always serialized manufactured pulp entertainment. He most mainstream of the mainstream. Have fun with that while you can and get off the ride when you're finished.

Honestly if they want to do new things instead of leaning on 40 year old characters and ideas that can only be a good thing in the context of big studio productions.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2017, 08:36:13 PM
Another benefit to Disney buying 21st Century Fox is that they'd get A New Hope back to give to Lucasfilm. No need to do a reboot then. If that deal falls through I'd definitely think about doing a reboot of Episode IV-VI so that's there's a universal vision for Star Wars and what it means.
What exactly are you talking about, here? I know Fox distributed the first movie, and it wouldn't surprise me if they still had some claim to the rights there that pisses off Disney to no end… but what's this reboot talk? It's the first I've heard of it…
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2017, 08:36:57 PM
It is and always was a throwback to old sci fi serials
IIRC, Lucas said he wanted to get the Flash Gordon rights but couldn't afford it at the time or something. That's a bit of a crazy alternate universe.
Yeah, but I think it wouldn't have resonated the way SW has. The change in parameters ended up being its saving grace.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Boogie on November 12, 2017, 11:37:27 PM
Another benefit to Disney buying 21st Century Fox is that they'd get A New Hope back to give to Lucasfilm. No need to do a reboot then. If that deal falls through I'd definitely think about doing a reboot of Episode IV-VI so that's there's a universal vision for Star Wars and what it means.
What exactly are you talking about, here? I know Fox distributed the first movie, and it wouldn't surprise me if they still had some claim to the rights there that pisses off Disney to no end… but what's this reboot talk? It's the first I've heard of it…

Benji's just doing his shtick, chrono, he's making jokes.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 12, 2017, 11:53:39 PM
"jokes"
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: chronovore on November 13, 2017, 02:19:00 AM
 :lucas
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: thehunter116 on November 13, 2017, 02:46:26 AM
That's because they're funny kiddo. :doge
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 13, 2017, 07:33:02 AM
I think fox actually does get a cut of any home video release of ANH
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: benjipwns on November 13, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
No really! Fox owns the rights to all physical releases of the original AND prequel trilogies until 2020 (and apparently may have first right of refusal), and owns A New Hope permanently.

If, hypothetically, Disney had any say with Star Wars, they might treat a hole in their catalog like this like they've considered treating mutants or the Fantastic Four in Marvel properties. So a reboot would make sure that their vision couldn't diluted by Fox's undermining their mythology by putting out A New Hope over and over in multiple forms as the "beginning of Star Wars." It'd be an obvious joke that real fans wouldn't take seriously anymore. Or they could just say only DIGITAL release are canon. :doge
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 13, 2017, 04:16:06 PM
In 2020, Disney will have George Lucas' brain preserved in a jar and his true vision will be beamed directly into your mind through PSVR 2.0.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: agrajag on November 15, 2017, 10:59:45 AM
In 2020, Disney will have George Lucas' brain preserved in a jar and his true vision will be beamed directly into your mind through PSVR 2.0.

As it has been written by prophet Kutaragi.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: paprikastaude on November 15, 2017, 11:42:50 AM
Are the ewok spinoffs still canon?
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2017, 07:05:44 PM
Are the ewok spinoffs still canon?

I’m still waiting for the broader story on the Ewoks to emerge. A sapiophagic race, which appears stuck in pre-industrial tribal culture, that is actually able to operate technological equipment? There’s an interesting story behind that, no doubt.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: thehunter116 on November 19, 2017, 05:31:34 AM
Are the ewok spinoffs still canon?

I’m still waiting for the broader story on the Ewoks to emerge. A sapiophagic race, which appears stuck in pre-industrial tribal culture, that is actually able to operate technological equipment? There’s an interesting story behind that, no doubt.

And whose rocks and sticks somehow hurt the most powerful military in the galaxy.

What the hell good was stormtrooper armor anyway  :doge
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: paprikastaude on November 19, 2017, 09:29:53 AM
Are the ewok spinoffs still canon?

I’m still waiting for the broader story on the Ewoks to emerge. A sapiophagic race, which appears stuck in pre-industrial tribal culture, that is actually able to operate technological equipment? There’s an interesting story behind that, no doubt.

And whose rocks and sticks somehow hurt the most powerful military in the galaxy.

What the hell good was stormtrooper armor anyway  :doge

Really, the problem was never ewoks themselves, but the fact that Stormtroopers were further dumbed down to Laurel and Hardy levels in favor of them. There's being useless and then there's Return of the Jedi.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: thehunter116 on November 19, 2017, 05:12:05 PM
Are the ewok spinoffs still canon?

I’m still waiting for the broader story on the Ewoks to emerge. A sapiophagic race, which appears stuck in pre-industrial tribal culture, that is actually able to operate technological equipment? There’s an interesting story behind that, no doubt.

And whose rocks and sticks somehow hurt the most powerful military in the galaxy.

What the hell good was stormtrooper armor anyway  :doge

Really, the problem was never ewoks themselves, but the fact that Stormtroopers were further dumbed down to Laurel and Hardy levels in favor of them. There's being useless and then there's Return of the Jedi.

Which is why I love the new trilogy so much.

The bad guys are actually competent.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: thehunter116 on November 20, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
Which is why I love the new trilogy so much.

The bad guys are actually competent.

Man, I liked TFA too but this is some bullshit. Kylo got his ass handed to him because he's supposed to be a bitch, the general got his entire base wrecked as soon as Leia and Co. found it, and Phasma was literally thrown in the trash :lol

Sure, the Death Star was taken down in A New Hope. But Darth Vader was an intimidating motherfucker up until the very final fight in the trilogy. What you said is completely false.

The Stormtroopers in the original were good for about 5 mins and then became jobber masters real quick. Vader didn't become anything but generic villain until Empire and other then blowing up Alderaan the Empire never really gets to "shine" except for 10 mins in the intro of New Hope and 20 mins in the opening of Empire. For the rest of the trilogy theyre a joke that hilariously loses to space monkeys with sticks.]

On the new side, Kyle is actually threatening and kills several characters as well as a key one; and intimidates the main hero directly several times. He actually feels like a character and has flaws (being overconfident is one of them). The bad guys almost won, actually blew up what they wanted to and were only stopped by last second intervention on the ground and the best pilot in the galaxy.

Phasma got done dirty no argument there. And while we still have to see two more movies to make a good comparison the villians in the new trilogy are far more threatening and have actual characters at the start then New Hope's empire did. Blowing up the whole government of your enemy and almost beating their last resistance is a lot more competent then almost blowing up one base. However Rebels is fleshing out the Empire and actually showing them to be competent and a threat; which is why I like Rogue One. The Empire actually looks competent.
Title: Re: Rian Johnson to direct new Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 20, 2017, 08:44:39 PM
Alderaan never forget :usacry