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Title: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2007, 02:47:56 AM
http://perezhilton.com/topics/exclusives/who_wants_to_fuck_clay_aiken_20070127.php (http://perezhilton.com/topics/exclusives/who_wants_to_fuck_clay_aiken_20070127.php)

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Oops, he did it again.

Poor Gayken!

The lonely homo is still looking for love in the all the wrong places.

He's not trying too hard to stay in the closet!

A horny Clay has returned to trolling the Internet for hot gay sex, and PerezHilton.com has all the details.

The Gayken logged on to gay hook-up site Manhunt this past Thursday, attempting to find some "company."

In what appears to be a form letter, he emailed one (and probably many more) hot local North Carolina dude.

Here's how it all went down!

Clay emails the dude.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-213113.jpg)

Clay then assures the horny homo that it's really him, after sending some airbrushed "glamour" shots of himself.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-213130.jpg)

Clay then invites his potential hookup to cam.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070127-125622.jpg)

Here is their IM chat. Pay special notice to the whole "finger" exchange, which verifies Clay's identity.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-212648.jpg)

The piece de resistance!!!

Our beloved Gayken is looking rough.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-211113.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-211210.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-211225.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-211211.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-211213.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-211215.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/iidxnick/new-20070125-211219.jpg)

P.S. Happychap2??? Skippermageeblue???

These are the LAMEST screen names ever.

Come on Clay!!!

We suggest NCgangbangbottom or Firecrotchpig!

I loled.  How is the Gayken going to spin this one?  I expect a People interview in two weeks, tops.  So Bore-Age... would you pick up this trick?  I wouldn't touch this taint with a ten foot pole.  Cross posted from GAF.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on January 28, 2007, 02:49:03 AM
So, did you hit it?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Himu on January 28, 2007, 02:49:24 AM
........
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: demi on January 28, 2007, 02:52:23 AM
HAHA

That's pretty funny.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Mupepe on January 28, 2007, 03:04:54 AM
Clay Aiken looks more like Pee Wee Herman in those photos.  Did he gain weight?  I don't know if I'd like to see him nude anymore....
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 03:18:51 AM
Those fucking gossip sights piss me off god dammit
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: demi on January 28, 2007, 03:28:46 AM
Those fucking gossip sights piss me off god dammit

Gossip? There's evidence right there.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 03:31:42 AM
Why does anyone give a fuck? Clay Aiken may make annoying music, but who gives a fuck about his personal life.

If this was someone worthwhile perhaps I'd be more interested
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Himu on January 28, 2007, 03:33:22 AM
shut up

you're just mad it wasn't Eddie Murphy because you want to see his jungle cock

you crump cake of flowers
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 03:34:08 AM
Eddie Murphy was caught with a cheeseburger a long time ago :lol
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2007, 03:45:08 AM
Why does anyone give a fuck? Clay Aiken may make annoying music, but who gives a fuck about his personal life.

If this was someone worthwhile perhaps I'd be more interested

The only reason Perez was adamant about his outing is because Gayken has denied it the entire time.  The fact of the matter is, if you're in the media spotlight, you're private life WILL be exposed, so you better be a good boy/girl.  Gayken has been denying this for years now, and here is solid proof of his hypocrisy.  It's humerous and now he has nothing to do but confirm it.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 28, 2007, 03:47:45 AM
Clay Aiken's heterosexuality is about as believable as Tom Cruise's!
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 28, 2007, 03:49:34 AM
Clay Aiken's heterosexuality is about as believable as Phoenix Dark's!
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: futami on January 28, 2007, 03:49:47 AM
omg, clay aiken sucks dick.

i'm shocked.

Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 04:15:33 AM
Why does anyone give a fuck? Clay Aiken may make annoying music, but who gives a fuck about his personal life.

If this was someone worthwhile perhaps I'd be more interested

The only reason Perez was adamant about his outing is because Gayken has denied it the entire time.  The fact of the matter is, if you're in the media spotlight, you're private life WILL be exposed, so you better be a good boy/girl.  Gayken has been denying this for years now, and here is solid proof of his hypocrisy.  It's humerous and now he has nothing to do but confirm it.

How does that make him a hypocrit? For all you know he's publically in the closet and it's his right to say what he wants, and come out when he feels like it. >:(
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 28, 2007, 04:16:35 AM
Just like Obama should come out and admit he's black when ever he feels like it.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: xnikki118x on January 28, 2007, 04:20:05 AM
Why does anyone give a fuck? Clay Aiken may make annoying music, but who gives a fuck about his personal life.

If this was someone worthwhile perhaps I'd be more interested

The only reason Perez was adamant about his outing is because Gayken has denied it the entire time.  The fact of the matter is, if you're in the media spotlight, you're private life WILL be exposed, so you better be a good boy/girl.  Gayken has been denying this for years now, and here is solid proof of his hypocrisy.  It's humerous and now he has nothing to do but confirm it.

I agree. I think coming clean is better than years of denial.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 04:20:49 AM
But still, who are you to decide what's best for him lol?

 :-*
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 28, 2007, 04:22:13 AM
That's like saying that I shouldn't admit I'm white because it's in my best interests to remain in denial!
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 04:25:21 AM
You're ashamed of being white? I suppose that explains the whole asian fetish thing.

DATE A NICE STRONG JEWISH WOMAN  :violin
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Bacon on January 28, 2007, 04:26:05 AM
Isn't this like the eighth time he has been "caught"?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 28, 2007, 04:31:27 AM
Sorry PD, I'm generally against the forced outing of people, but it's hard to get upset over it in this case.

He's clearly gay, and he's been asked about it on multiple occasions.  He has flat out denied it EVERY TIME.  Instead of being coy, or saying that it was an improper question, he DENIED DENIED DENIED.  When you are famous and outright deny that you're gay, and you very clearly are, you're going to get busted, because you lose a lot of privacy when you go famous.  It's especially difficult to feel bad for him when he is trolling for hookups online.  That's just skanky.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 04:33:17 AM
How do we know he was gay? Are you saying because he fell into stereotypes in terms of the way he talks and looks!

Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2007, 04:37:38 AM
How do we know he was gay? Are you saying because he fell into stereotypes in terms of the way he talks and looks!

It's not that we "know", it's just very obvious.  When you 100% lie to the media, and you are CLEARLY not of the heterosexual brethren, people are going to hound you to tell the truth.  Just like how women in the media are criticized for their weight.  Don't like it?  Don't be a celebrity.

Also: I have word from a very reliable source (trust me on this one, I have connections) that Wentworth Miller is in fact Bi.  I used to hate when Perez would post shit on him about his gayness, but I have a friend who is best friends with Wentworth, and he confirmed it to me.   :pimp
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 04:39:36 AM
How do we know he was gay? Are you saying because he fell into stereotypes in terms of the way he talks and looks!

It's not that we "know", it's just very obvious.  When you 100% lie to the media, and you are CLEARLY not of the heterosexual brethren, people are going to hound you to tell the truth.  Just like how women in the media are criticized for their weight.  Don't like it?  Don't be a celebrity.

Also: I have word from a very reliable source (trust me on this one, I have connections) that Wentworth Miller is in fact Bi.  I used to hate when Perez would post shit on him about his gayness, but I have a friend who is best friends with Wentworth, and he confirmed it to me.   :pimp

Ha you based all this on stereotypes. I'm ashamed Nick, I really am :(

Looks like I'm the only champion of gay rights and PRIVACY here :elephant
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 28, 2007, 04:42:03 AM
How do we know he was gay? Are you saying because he fell into stereotypes in terms of the way he talks and looks!

Because even beyond having a soft voice, he carries himself in a feminine manner, and he reminds me of a certain "type."  Yes, it's profiling, but I don't think you'd have to be Sherlock Holmes to crack this nut open.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 28, 2007, 04:43:49 AM
PD, there's nothing wrong with stereotypes as long as you know when to not apply them.  It's an intuitive thing, you just have to know when to stop using your stereotypes.  Clay. . .is gay.  Beyond the pale.  If he is not gay, then god himself is the one that fucked the kid in the ass.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: John_Carmack on January 28, 2007, 04:44:15 AM
tortful
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: The Sceneman on January 28, 2007, 04:47:38 AM
A++++ OP but this thread sucks
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: APF on January 28, 2007, 10:38:44 AM
Why is it anyone's business if he lied about his sexuality?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: futami on January 28, 2007, 11:20:14 AM
i just don't understand the fascination some men have with shoving their dicks into another male's ass.

and don't tell me people are born that way, that they're genetically predisposed to sucking cock.

bullshit.

some people just like to be "different," i guess.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 28, 2007, 11:23:59 AM
Hey PD, didnt you hear? TVC knows whats best for other people.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 28, 2007, 12:14:37 PM
it's nurture, not nature, that makes futami a contrarian! (and possibly gay.)
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: APF on January 28, 2007, 12:48:20 PM
Being a contrarian is only fun if you actually feel there's merit to what you're saying.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 12:48:54 PM
PD, there's nothing wrong with stereotypes as long as you know when to not apply them.  It's an intuitive thing, you just have to know when to stop using your stereotypes.  Clay. . .is gay.  Beyond the pale.  If he is not gay, then god himself is the one that fucked the kid in the ass.

What other "straight" men do you think are most likely gays? :-\
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 28, 2007, 06:55:46 PM
PD, there's nothing wrong with stereotypes as long as you know when to not apply them.  It's an intuitive thing, you just have to know when to stop using your stereotypes.  Clay. . .is gay.  Beyond the pale.  If he is not gay, then god himself is the one that fucked the kid in the ass.

What other "straight" men do you think are most likely gays? :-\

Aside from you?

Someone else pointed out on GAF that maybe Clay is extremely religious, or has deep family issues preventing him from ever doing anything but vehemently denying he was gay.  If either of those scenarios are true, he still played with fire, and he got busted.  If you want to be a celebrity, you gotta be able to deal with scrutiny.

Also, lol futami has a CONTRARY view compared to contemporary thought on gay folks, how completely shocking!
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: futami on January 28, 2007, 07:27:54 PM
when did the belief that one is "born gay" become "contemporary"?

i'm assuming you take that as the prevailing verdict on the origins of homosexuality?

Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 28, 2007, 07:32:57 PM
when did the belief that one is "born gay" become "contemporary"?

i'm assuming you take that as the prevailing verdict on the origins of homosexuality?



I don't believe in an absolute origin on either side of the scale.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: xnikki118x on January 28, 2007, 10:45:44 PM
I wonder what will happen to his career now. He wasn't really that successful to begin with, you know?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Catz on January 28, 2007, 10:55:55 PM
It doesn't seem like solid evidence. It could all be staged. A fake AIM conversation set up just to create a news item on perezhilton.com. Who knows. Didn't they take compromising pictures of John Travelota as 'proof' of his gayness a couples monthas back?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 28, 2007, 10:58:25 PM
It doesn't seem like solid evidence. It could all be staged. A fake AIM conversation set up just to create a news item on perezhilton.com. Who knows. Didn't they take compromising pictures of John Travelota as 'proof' of his gayness a couples monthas back?

Claymate confirmed total.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 10:59:18 PM
when did the belief that one is "born gay" become "contemporary"?

i'm assuming you take that as the prevailing verdict on the origins of homosexuality?



Explain plz
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Catz on January 28, 2007, 11:04:38 PM
It doesn't seem like solid evidence. It could all be staged. A fake AIM conversation set up just to create a news item on perezhilton.com. Who knows. Didn't they take compromising pictures of John Travelota as 'proof' of his gayness a couples monthas back?

Claymate confirmed total.

I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt. He probably is gay :shrug
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 28, 2007, 11:22:19 PM
when did the belief that one is "born gay" become "contemporary"?

i'm assuming you take that as the prevailing verdict on the origins of homosexuality?


It is the contemporary stance that homosexuality* is a product of nature because most of the evidence in support of this position has been gathered during the last decade and a half. What have we learned?

Homosexuality exists in hundreds of species.
Shared sexuality is higher among identical twins than among fraternal twins.
Altered prenatal hormone exposure seems to lead to homosexuality in humans.
Researchers have altered the sexuality of fruit flies with genetic manipulation.
Gay men have brains, which are in some ways more similar to heterosexual women than to heterosexual males.
Gay men have spatial abilities closer to females than males. Lesbians are closer to straight males in this mental ability.
Homosexuality seems to run in the maternal side of the family.
Gay men and women react similarly to the smell of sex-related hormones.

*That's not to say sexual behavior can not be a product of culture , but sexual orientation seems to be a product of nature.
 
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:18:41 AM
If being gay was nature over nurture wouldn't thousands of years of natural selection removed the people who were not procreating?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 29, 2007, 01:22:25 AM
If being gay was nature over nurture wouldn't thousands of years of natural selection removed the people who were not procreating?

Since when could gay people not procreate?  That makes no sense.  Are you saying that all homosexuals never have heterosexual relationships?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:23:47 AM
If being gay was nature over nurture wouldn't thousands of years of natural selection removed the people who were not procreating?

Since when could gay people not procreate?  That makes no sense.  Are you saying that all homosexuals never have heterosexual relationships?

Are you saying that Gay people procreate and then turn gay? That itself throws the nature argument out the window.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Nick on January 29, 2007, 01:24:52 AM
If being gay was nature over nurture wouldn't thousands of years of natural selection removed the people who were not procreating?

Since when could gay people not procreate?  That makes no sense.  Are you saying that all homosexuals never have heterosexual relationships?

Are you saying that Gay people procreate and then turn gay? That itself throws the nature argument out the window.

We don't need anymore beings on this Earth, as far as I'm concerned.  What if they turned out like you?  What if they turned out like futami?  Gay people better than straights confirmed.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 29, 2007, 01:24:56 AM
If being gay was nature over nurture wouldn't thousands of years of natural selection removed the people who were not procreating?

Not necessarily. If there was a gay gene, it could just be recessive and only become dominant in certain breeding conditions. 

Honestly, I don't think there's much genetics about it.  I think it has to do with conception and pregnancy conditions.  Research shows that women that the 3rd and further kid from one mother is more likely to be gay than the first two.

To be honest, FoC, I'm pretty sure "gay gene" research has mostly come up flat.

Quote
Are you saying that Gay people procreate and then turn gay? That itself throws the nature argument out the window.

Jesus you are dumb.  Gay people in the past would have felt societal pressure to have a relationship with a woman, a wife, a "beard."  In that way, yes, they would be breeding.  Until the 20th century, being out was really not an option.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 29, 2007, 01:25:09 AM
No, I'm saying many gay men have had children, simply because society or family or what have you has forced them into that situation.

Your theory makes no sense, because gay men are capable of procreation.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:25:55 AM
I dont think their is a "gay gene" either.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 29, 2007, 01:26:58 AM
FoC, you are pretty distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:27:41 AM
No, I'm saying many gay men have had children, simply because society or family or what have you has forced them into that situation.

Your theory makes no sense, because gay men are capable of procreation.

Lets pretend we live in the Cave man era. If your Gay then your not going to pass your genes on. Considering how long it took for humans to get to civilization if there was any nature involved it would have disapeared.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:28:14 AM
FoC, you are pretty distinguished mentally-challenged.

You're personal attacks are awesome. I am amazed at your ability to have a discussion.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 29, 2007, 01:28:29 AM
But as TVC already said, who said it has to do with genetics?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 29, 2007, 01:29:08 AM
Gay gene? I don't know. To me it seems more like a mental thing. I wouldn't call it a "mental defect" because that would be ignorant.

The brain is a vastly complicated machine, and even the slightlest changes can effect one's behavior.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:30:18 AM
But as TVC already said, who said it has to do with genetics?

If its not genetics then what else does nature consist of? I guess you could chalk it up to a chemical imbalance, which might be true considering everything in our body is a chemical reaction of some sort.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 29, 2007, 01:32:49 AM
But as TVC already said, who said it has to do with genetics?

If its not genetics then what else does nature consist of? I guess you could chalk it up to a chemical imbalance, which might be true considering everything in our body is a chemical reaction of some sort.

You forget the mental aspect of things
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: aoi tsuki on January 29, 2007, 01:33:08 AM
I wonder what will happen to his career now. He wasn't really that successful to begin with, you know?
He'll probably start sucking dick for
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fun. Damn spoiler tags kinda suck here.
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Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:33:20 AM
But as TVC already said, who said it has to do with genetics?

If its not genetics then what else does nature consist of? I guess you could chalk it up to a chemical imbalance, which might be true considering everything in our body is a chemical reaction of some sort.

You forget the mental aspect of things

What do you mean? Like choice?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 29, 2007, 01:36:02 AM
No. The possibility that the vast majority of homosapiens are indeed born heterosexual but there is the possibility that some differentiate from this due to a slight mental alternation that's develeped as the body forms in the womb
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 29, 2007, 01:36:25 AM
But as TVC already said, who said it has to do with genetics?

If its not genetics then what else does nature consist of? I guess you could chalk it up to a chemical imbalance, which might be true considering everything in our body is a chemical reaction of some sort.

Um, genetics == genes.  It doesn't take into account conception or pregnancy conditions. 
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Nick on January 29, 2007, 01:36:30 AM
Oh, this is a hot topic right now in America.  I'm so amped that we're talking about this.

Why are people gay?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:38:20 AM
No. The possibility that the vast majority of homosapiens are indeed born heterosexual but there is the possibility that some differentiate from this due to a slight mental alternation that's develeped as the body forms in the womb

So then it would be a chemical imbalance?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 29, 2007, 01:39:43 AM
No. The possibility that the vast majority of homosapiens are indeed born heterosexual but there is the possibility that some differentiate from this due to a slight mental alternation that's develeped as the body forms in the womb

So then it would be a chemical imbalance?

Possibly, but again not necessarily.  It could be from any of a wide variety of conception or pregnancy factors.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 29, 2007, 01:41:09 AM
No. The possibility that the vast majority of homosapiens are indeed born heterosexual but there is the possibility that some differentiate from this due to a slight mental alternation that's develeped as the body forms in the womb

So then it would be a chemical imbalance?

Possibly, but again not necessarily.  It could be from any of a wide variety of conception or pregnancy factors.

Wouldnt any of those be chemical reactions?
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: TVC15 on January 29, 2007, 01:44:14 AM
No. The possibility that the vast majority of homosapiens are indeed born heterosexual but there is the possibility that some differentiate from this due to a slight mental alternation that's develeped as the body forms in the womb

So then it would be a chemical imbalance?

Possibly, but again not necessarily.  It could be from any of a wide variety of conception or pregnancy factors.

Wouldnt any of those be chemical reactions?

What difference does it make?  I'm not sure what is considered a chemical reaction in biology.  But what if, say (theoretically) a lack of oxygen caused a defect.  Would that be considered a chemical reaction?  On some level, yes, it is a chemical reaction as cells are kept from vital resources, but on another level, it's just a baby chokin'.  But again, I don't see what difference it makes.
Title: Re: Clay Aiken caught trolling online for gay sex -- PerezHilton Exclusive
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 29, 2007, 01:44:27 AM
No. The possibility that the vast majority of homosapiens are indeed born heterosexual but there is the possibility that some differentiate from this due to a slight mental alternation that's develeped as the body forms in the womb

So then it would be a chemical imbalance?

Possibly, but again not necessarily.  It could be from any of a wide variety of conception or pregnancy factors.

That tends to be my belief. If it was a gene I think we'd have a far better understanding of it by now. That would be too easy in my estimates.

A slight change of one's brain can make the difference between being a regular, "average" human being and an uncontrolable, insane monster. With this in mind it's certainly not far fetched to suggest that homosexuality is indeed a product of some kind of differentiation in the brain
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 29, 2007, 01:47:43 AM
Why are people gay? Because God loves musicals.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on January 29, 2007, 02:07:53 AM
I already said prenatal hormones people. But that couldn't be a sufficient answer since identical twins are more likely to share a common sexual orientation than fraternal twins.

Anyway, through kin selection homosexuals wouldn't necessarily need to reproduce to pass on their genes. By aiding siblings (who share 50% of their genes) or cousins (25%) they could help aid their survival and reproduction. So if their siblings carried an inactivated gay gene (not saying it works like this) they could help that gene live on without directly reproducing.

Also researchers who believe that genes are involved think the genes are passed on from heterosexual mothers. So gay men wouldn’t need to have children for there to be "gay genes".