First, we’re adopting haptic feedback to replace the “rumble” technology found in controllers since the 5th generation of consoles. With haptics, you truly feel a broader range of feedback, so crashing into a wall in a race car feels much different than making a tackle on the football field. You can even get a sense for a variety of textures when running through fields of grass or plodding through mud.
The second innovation is something we call adaptive triggers, which have been incorporated into the trigger buttons (L2/R2). Developers can program the resistance of the triggers so that you feel the tactile sensation of drawing a bow and arrow or accelerating an off-road vehicle through rocky terrain. In combination with the haptics, this can produce a powerful experience that better simulates various actions. Game creators have started to receive early versions of the new controller, and we can’t wait to see where their imagination goes with these new features at their disposal.
I had no idea that ray tracing can affect sound quality too. This got me kinda excited. I'd like to hear this.We've had hardware accelerated sound for ages (which I assume already cast rays to model sound propagation), but now software solutions pervail. :goty
I'm curious who their gpu partner is, and how much this stupid thing is gonna cost. Also still lol @ ray tracing until it can be done in 4k at higher resolutionsArticle mentions AMDs Navi architechture, i.e. RDNA, i.e. their newest tech.
Think about the hard drive in a game console, spinning like a 5400-rpm vinyl record.:lol
I'm curious who their gpu partner is, and how much this stupid thing is gonna cost. Also still lol @ ray tracing until it can be done in 4k at higher resolutionsArticle mentions AMDs Navi architechture, i.e. RDNA, i.e. their newest tech.
Who knows, maybe AMD used some witchcraft and really solved ray tracing but I'm still skeptical.I don't know how difficult the problem actually is. The RT cores might be relatively simple problem for all I know. (I've read parts of Nvidia's white paper on Turing but that was all over my head.) It could just be that AMD didn't want to sacrifice (or couldn't afford) the die space until now.
Nintendo basically recreated the Vita 6 years after Sony did, but yet gets constant rusty trombones for it. Who's the real innovators? :doge
These bullshit pad technologies never get used past the first year of releases, and they bump up the prices of gamepads for no reason. :-\
What PS4 game even uses the motion controls and touch-pad, in a significant way? They all resorted to using it as an alternate "Select/Start" button.
I'm happy about the modular installation/download of games though, fuck having to instaall 50GB of multiplayer i'm never gonna touch.
Don't forget how amazing it is to essentially have a flashlight's glare on your TV screen at all times, what a brilliant idea!These bullshit pad technologies never get used past the first year of releases, and they bump up the prices of gamepads for no reason. :-\
What PS4 game even uses the motion controls and touch-pad, in a significant way? They all resorted to using it as an alternate "Select/Start" button.
I'm happy about the modular installation/download of games though, fuck having to instaall 50GB of multiplayer i'm never gonna touch.
The worst is the glowing light. Drains the battery like crazy and I can't even recall any games it was used in.
Don't forget how amazing it is to essentially have a flashlight's glare on your TV screen at all times, what a brilliant idea!These bullshit pad technologies never get used past the first year of releases, and they bump up the prices of gamepads for no reason. :-\
What PS4 game even uses the motion controls and touch-pad, in a significant way? They all resorted to using it as an alternate "Select/Start" button.
I'm happy about the modular installation/download of games though, fuck having to instaall 50GB of multiplayer i'm never gonna touch.
The worst is the glowing light. Drains the battery like crazy and I can't even recall any games it was used in.
I was happy you could turn it off on PC, at least.
Maybe they will raytrace in the cloud :o
Haptic rumble, resistance triggers, 2020 all sounds good to me. Don’t get the negativity.it just all seems like catch up, not anything new. the features themselves are good but not hype-worthy for me. haptic is just hd rumble on nintendo stuff, resistance triggers and 4k movies are on xbone.
Haptic rumble, resistance triggers, 2020 all sounds good to me. Don’t get the negativity.Controller gimmicks always end up being underutilized, even in first party games (and create compatibility issues down the line).
These bullshit pad technologies never get used past the first year of releases, and they bump up the prices of gamepads for no reason. :-\
What PS4 game even uses the motion controls and touch-pad, in a significant way? They all resorted to using it as an alternate "Select/Start" button.
I'm happy about the modular installation/download of games though, fuck having to instaall 50GB of multiplayer i'm never gonna touch.
The worst is the glowing light. Drains the battery like crazy and I can't even recall any games it was used in.
Also, the Xbone has resistance triggers? Sounds like these are talking about ones that will dynamically change their resistance based on what the developer wants to happen.Forza makes good use of them, I believe.
Maybe xbone has that, but man, I have never once noticed it.
Does it actually drain the battery? LEDs use very little power. As for games that use it, any VR games you play with a controller use it to track the controller. Augmented reality camera games were also supposed to use it, but I think the only one that was ever made for PS4 is The Playroom.These bullshit pad technologies never get used past the first year of releases, and they bump up the prices of gamepads for no reason. :-\
What PS4 game even uses the motion controls and touch-pad, in a significant way? They all resorted to using it as an alternate "Select/Start" button.
I'm happy about the modular installation/download of games though, fuck having to instaall 50GB of multiplayer i'm never gonna touch.
The worst is the glowing light. Drains the battery like crazy and I can't even recall any games it was used in.
If you play in front of a TV larger than 32", with the lights off, turning down the brightness won't do much.Don't forget how amazing it is to essentially have a flashlight's glare on your TV screen at all times, what a brilliant idea!These bullshit pad technologies never get used past the first year of releases, and they bump up the prices of gamepads for no reason. :-\
What PS4 game even uses the motion controls and touch-pad, in a significant way? They all resorted to using it as an alternate "Select/Start" button.
I'm happy about the modular installation/download of games though, fuck having to instaall 50GB of multiplayer i'm never gonna touch.
The worst is the glowing light. Drains the battery like crazy and I can't even recall any games it was used in.
I was happy you could turn it off on PC, at least.
Are you playing with the controller right up against the screen or something? :lol Just turn down the brightness.
I'm going to guess there will be a $499 500GB SSD sku and a $599 1TB SSD sku.This sounds about right, and also that's too high for most people to accept.
Most games don't make any use of it. Pretty much just 1-2 Switch, Mario Kart, and Odyssey that I can think of right now.
I’m more like going for the Xbonetwo first
You can go back even earlier than the Sixaxis for a Sony debut controller technology that fell on its face. They made every button on the Dual Shock 2 analog and then had to tell developers before the console even came out to take this functionality out of their games because it would wear the controllers out in a few months.
IIRC, they wouldn't even give a pass to Gran Turismo since they suspected, rather accurately I imagine, that enough players would play just that for long periods and do it.
I don't recall reading anything about whether they had ever fixed this or if later versions of the controller just quietly dropped it. Also no idea if you can detect it if they did.
The only gimmicks needed are bc and no load times.
You can go back even earlier than the Sixaxis for a Sony debut controller technology that fell on its face. They made every button on the Dual Shock 2 analog and then had to tell developers before the console even came out to take this functionality out of their games because it would wear the controllers out in a few months.
IIRC, they wouldn't even give a pass to Gran Turismo since they suspected, rather accurately I imagine, that enough players would play just that for long periods and do it.
I don't recall reading anything about whether they had ever fixed this or if later versions of the controller just quietly dropped it. Also no idea if you can detect it if they did.
Speaking of BC, I take it PS5 will only be compatible with PS4? I'd love BC with all previous PlayStation home consoles (and if we're going all out, even PSP and Vita). I don't see any downside for Sony selling PS1/2/3 games again digitally. It would be a win-win.There was some chatter a bit ago about some patents Sony had recently filed that seemed to imply that the PS5 would potentially have FULL BC in some fashion, but we'll know when they say I guess. Having only owned a PSX and a 2 the prospect of being able to catch up on two gens of software along with playing a new one would definitely help nudge me towards their machine.
Full BC (if feasible) should become a standard feature.
Speaking of BC, I take it PS5 will only be compatible with PS4? I'd love BC with all previous PlayStation home consoles (and if we're going all out, even PSP and Vita). I don't see any downside for Sony selling PS1/2/3 games again digitally. It would be a win-win.Agree. Because this shit here, is unacceptable... You mean to tell me my PS4 won't run this Sony?? Fuck you.
Full BC (if feasible) should become a standard feature.
I’m more like going for the Xbonetwo first
Haven't the past ~10 years taught you not to go with Xbox, and certainly not first?
Buy a PlayStation and a Nintendo system and you cover almost everything that matters.
Is it unacceptable?Speaking of BC, I take it PS5 will only be compatible with PS4? I'd love BC with all previous PlayStation home consoles (and if we're going all out, even PSP and Vita). I don't see any downside for Sony selling PS1/2/3 games again digitally. It would be a win-win.Agree. Because this shit here, is unacceptable... You mean to tell me my PS4 won't run this Sony?? Fuck you.
Full BC (if feasible) should become a standard feature.
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We've been 2.5 generations deep already where companies resell ports slowly over the course of 7/8 years. Sony/Xbox aside, Nintendo slowly sold a limited amount of games over the entire course of the Wii, went on to make people slowly get thirsty for Earthbound on Wii U, and is doing the same now on Switch.
People will gladly drop dosh for officially sold rom rips from illegal sites. Seems par for the course.
Most games don't make any use of it. Pretty much just 1-2 Switch, Mario Kart, and Odyssey that I can think of right now.
If you play in front of a TV larger than 32", with the lights off, turning down the brightness won't do much.Don't forget how amazing it is to essentially have a flashlight's glare on your TV screen at all times, what a brilliant idea!These bullshit pad technologies never get used past the first year of releases, and they bump up the prices of gamepads for no reason. :-\
What PS4 game even uses the motion controls and touch-pad, in a significant way? They all resorted to using it as an alternate "Select/Start" button.
I'm happy about the modular installation/download of games though, fuck having to instaall 50GB of multiplayer i'm never gonna touch.
The worst is the glowing light. Drains the battery like crazy and I can't even recall any games it was used in.
I was happy you could turn it off on PC, at least.
Are you playing with the controller right up against the screen or something? :lol Just turn down the brightness.
Not a problem if i play on PC tho.
Thread about PS5...
.. arguing about ancient PS1 games.
LOL
I'm about 1.5/2 meters away from the TV, i'd say.If you play in front of a TV larger than 32", with the lights off, turning down the brightness won't do much.Don't forget how amazing it is to essentially have a flashlight's glare on your TV screen at all times, what a brilliant idea!These bullshit pad technologies never get used past the first year of releases, and they bump up the prices of gamepads for no reason. :-\
What PS4 game even uses the motion controls and touch-pad, in a significant way? They all resorted to using it as an alternate "Select/Start" button.
I'm happy about the modular installation/download of games though, fuck having to instaall 50GB of multiplayer i'm never gonna touch.
The worst is the glowing light. Drains the battery like crazy and I can't even recall any games it was used in.
I was happy you could turn it off on PC, at least.
Are you playing with the controller right up against the screen or something? :lol Just turn down the brightness.
Not a problem if i play on PC tho.
Seriously- Are you playing with the controller right up against the screen or something? :P I have a 55" TV. I don't sit incredibly close to it. Don't have a problem with lights reflecting on the screen.
:idont
Speaking of BC, I take it PS5 will only be compatible with PS4? I'd love BC with all previous PlayStation home consoles (and if we're going all out, even PSP and Vita). I don't see any downside for Sony selling PS1/2/3 games again digitally. It would be a win-win.Agree. Because this shit here, is unacceptable... You mean to tell me my PS4 won't run this Sony?? Fuck you.
Full BC (if feasible) should become a standard feature.
(https://i.imgur.com/dPfjWnS.jpg)
Thread about PS5...
.. arguing about ancient PS1 games.
LOL
Can’t wait for this to release for $600-$800 due to trade war and cause gamers to rise up against Trump.
I hope Sony is able to get the PS5 to not sound like a vacuum cleaner when playing a game and to have controllers that don’t fall apart after 2 months.
With PS5, they need to push that bc trick they've patented. Or even have everything available with PSNow.
Don’t you hate the switch because it has old games on it? :doge
I think the odds that ps5 lets you insert a Disc older than a PS4 disc and play that game off of the disc, for free is very low.xbox stay winning :smug
They might find a way to deliver ps3 and earlier games, but it won’t be “put the old disc in the drive”
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why :lol
I'll eat their goddamn 500 bucks if I never have to swap Playstations again for old games.
I never understand all the BC talk. Like I buy systems to play new games. I've installed some of the BC Xbox 360 games. I go "oh this is neat" and then never play them.
Then again I also don't prop up the Vita because holy shit it can play PS1 games.
BC is nice, but it aint gonna mean shit if theres nothing good and new to play on the PS5.
Not that I don’t replay old games from time to time, but it hardly factors into my new console desires.
I never understand all the BC talk. Like I buy systems to play new games. I've installed some of the BC Xbox 360 games. I go "oh this is neat" and then never play them.
Then again I also don't prop up the Vita because holy shit it can play PS1 games.
BC is nice, but it aint gonna mean shit if theres nothing good and new to play on the PS5.
Not that I don’t replay old games from time to time, but it hardly factors into my new console desires.
Imagine buying a new shelf but not being able to put your old books on it. This is similar.Except I bought the new shelf to hold new things. My old shelf still works and can hold the old books. I’m also less intersted in the old books because I’ve already spent plenty of time with them. I’ll take them out every ounce in a while and when done put them back on the old shelf where they belong.spoiler (click to show/hide)Ignoring for a moment that in this analogy you would still need different shelves for different brands of books*, but at least not multiple shelves for books from the same brand.
*Except for PC, but there you have no more actual game ownership most of the time.[close]