Tora Tora Tora woulda been better with Kurosawa involved.
Tora Tora Tora woulda been better with Kurosawa involved.
A lot of movies would have been better if a better director was involved. Doesn't mean it's not a great film.
Looks like a very good movie to me. I want to see it along with Babel and Children of Men. Right now I doubt any movie of 2006 will impress me more than The Departed though
i really could be biased since I saw the movie with this girl I'm dating. :-[
i really could be biased since I saw the movie with this girl I'm dating. :-[
I think dark shake is JEALOUS. I'm going out of town till sunday, then we are going to watch the oscars at her place. :-*
and I think thedarkshake is hilarious for once
I think dark shake is JEALOUS. I'm going out of town till sunday, then we are going to watch the oscars at her place. :-*
You have sex with your imaginary friends? Damn, i just used them as fallguys whenever I broke shit around the house and got confronted by my mom.
I would never fuck Mr. Nobody in the ass he's my friend:-\
I think dark shake is JEALOUS. I'm going out of town till sunday, then we are going to watch the oscars at her place. :-*
You have sex with your imaginary friends? Damn, i just used them as fallguys whenever I broke shit around the house and got confronted by my mom.
I would never fuck Mr. Nobody in the ass he's my friend:-\
You're jealous too? :( PD, what happened to vampire girl.
FoC will be a virgin for as long as Drinky is a jaded troll or White Man is a homosexual.
FoC will be a virgin for as long as Drinky is a jaded troll or White Man is a homosexual.
Would you like to bet?
I'll bet my account here that I'm out of the squad in 2 weeks.
Ugh, modern day Eastwood is a CRIME. That fucker needs to get AIDS and die. He is doing cool Clint of the past a disservice.
Ugh, modern day Eastwood is a CRIME. That fucker needs to get AIDS and die. He is doing cool Clint of the past a disservice.
Um, the consensus is that this movie is pretty awesome so what are you talking about Peter?
Ugh, modern day Eastwood is a CRIME. That fucker needs to get AIDS and die. He is doing cool Clint of the past a disservice.
Um, the consensus is that this movie is pretty awesome so what are you talking about Peter?
Eastwood flicks review well. They're generally emotionally manipulative or overly sentimental piles of shit, though. Critics go gay for that stuff if a big name (like Clint) is behind it. See also Gump.
You know what I'm talking about, don't pretend that you don't.
don't be a buttfuck. there's deliberate, mechanical manipulation that stems from calculation; and there's the honest sentiment of a director more concerned with his own vision than eliciting a targeted response from an audience. it's what separates the michael bays and steven spielbergs from the real talents and visionaries. it's the difference between danielle steel and james joyce, fagabag.
To blow certain art off because it's "emotionally manipulative" makes little sense.
don't be a buttfuck. there's deliberate, mechanical manipulation that stems from calculation; and there's the honest sentiment of a director more concerned with his own vision than eliciting a targeted response from an audience. it's what separates the michael bays and steven spielbergs from the real talents and visionaries. it's the difference between danielle steel and james joyce, fagabag.
don't be a buttfuck. there's deliberate, mechanical manipulation that stems from calculation; and there's the honest sentiment of a director more concerned with his own vision than eliciting a targeted response from an audience. it's what separates the michael bays and steven spielbergs from the real talents and visionaries. it's the difference between danielle steel and james joyce, fagabag.
And how do you know the movie isn't sincere, and is instead "deliberate"?
It's subjective, of course
but there are movies that are so overtly sentimental that any merit they have is immediately written off, like Gump and Million Dollar Baby.
In the writing sense of the word, anything sentimental is bad. Sentimentalism goes against "show, don't tell."
In the writing sense of the word, anything sentimental is bad. Sentimentalism goes against "show, don't tell."
I fail to see how Forrest Gump would fall in that category. What's worse is that I can think of movies you guys actually like that would fall under your broad umbrella of "sentimentality" if looked at without agendas
In the writing sense of the word, anything sentimental is bad. Sentimentalism goes against "show, don't tell."
I fail to see how Forrest Gump would fall in that category. What's worse is that I can think of movies you guys actually like that would fall under your broad umbrella of "sentimentality" if looked at without agendas
Okay, let me put it in simplest possible terms: Anything you see in a movie that would be more fitting in a soap opera or a lifetime original movie is overly sentimental. Forrest Gump, Million Dollar Baby, the prime mover in these movies is sentimentalism. Both of those movies could've easily been Lifetime movies Fuck, Gump is a nostalgia piece.
I haven't seen it in at least 5 years. Are you telling me that the movie does not wear its emotions on its sleeves?
I haven't seen it in at least 5 years. Are you telling me that the movie does not wear its emotions on its sleeves?
Well you should be able to come up with examples then right? Ok, how about an example from another movie you've seen recently
It's a drama. Many dramas use the same techniques because they're...dramas. To Kill a Mockingbird? Do the Right Thing?
I haven't seen it in at least 5 years. Are you telling me that the movie does not wear its emotions on its sleeves?
Well you should be able to come up with examples then right? Ok, how about an example from another movie you've seen recently
It's a drama. Many dramas use the same techniques because they're...dramas. To Kill a Mockingbird? Do the Right Thing?
Um, I could, but then I'd have to think about movies I haven't seen in years. Trust me, no one on this forum that isn't you will say that Gump isn't overly sentimental. I avoid melodramas for the most part. Can't recall the last one I saw.
Note that sentimentalism used to be an acceptable tool. Primarily in pre-talkies and in stage dramas, but the "rules" are different for those.
I never said Brazil was a perfect movie, but sentimentalism isn't its biggest problem. I haven't seen To Kill a Mockingbird since I was in high school. That's simplified kiddie crap so I wouldn't be surprised if it is overly sentimental.
V, I'm not quite sure what you are getting at. It has a fair bit of telling instead of showing (comic book roots shining through), but the only really clear incident of sentimentalism was the note Evey finds about the lesbian, and there's kind of a twist on that since we don't know whether the note is real. It does have an emotionally manipulative effect on Evey, though.
Either way, Brazil and V may have some sentimentalism in them, but they are not driven by it liek Gump and M$B.
I never said Brazil was a perfect movie, but sentimentalism isn't its biggest problem. I haven't seen To Kill a Mockingbird since I was in high school. That's simplified kiddie crap so I wouldn't be surprised if it is overly sentimental.
V, I'm not quite sure what you are getting at. It has a fair bit of telling instead of showing (comic book roots shining through), but the only really clear incident of sentimentalism was the note Evey finds about the lesbian, and there's kind of a twist on that since we don't know whether the note is real. It does have an emotionally manipulative effect on Evey, though.
Either way, Brazil and V may have some sentimentalism in them, but they are not driven by it liek Gump and M$B.
I disagree. First on V, which is driven by an anti-establishment/cynical sentimentalism. Then with respect to Gump, which is only driven by sentimentality as much as dramas normally are. How that makes the movie "bad" suddenly is beyond me. To make matters worse, there are even more sentimental movies out there that are considered some of the best films ever created
Anti-establishment sentimentalism? No.
Just... no.
So PD, tell me, do you feel the emotion of anti-establishmentism very often?
So PD, tell me, do you feel the emotion of anti-establishmentism very often?
So PD, tell me, do you feel the emotion of anti-establishmentism very often?
Distrust of authoritative figures is not an emotion?
Cast Away was better than V for Vendetta.
Cast Away was better than V for Vendetta.
Heh, no.
Sucks to be Marty? Sucks to be you
Looks like a very good movie to me. I want to see it along with Babel and Children of Men. Right now I doubt any movie of 2006 will impress me more than The Departed though
Sucks to be Marty this year. :lol :lolToo bad Marty will be going home with a oscar and not clint
Sucks to be Marty this year. :lol :lolToo bad Marty will be going home with a oscar and not clint
Sucks to be Marty this year. :lol :lolToo bad Marty will be going home with a oscar and not clint
Little Miss Sunshine will get best picture though lolSucks to be Marty this year. :lol :lolToo bad Marty will be going home with a oscar and not clint
lol I wouldn't be surprised at all if Clint wins
IF LMS wins best picture, it will be the final nail in the coffin for the academy.I predicted Crash would win over Brokeback Mountain. I NOW SAY THE SAME OF LMS OVER THE DEPARTED.