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Title: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Cheebs on April 11, 2007, 11:26:50 PM: wtf is going on? What did he say this time!
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 11, 2007, 11:27:53 PM: Unforgiven: 6/10
Children of Men: 9.5/10
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Post by: Cheebs on April 11, 2007, 11:28:36 PM: What would you do if you were the age you are right now when Unforgiven sweeped in 1992 oscars?
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: demi on April 11, 2007, 11:30:57 PM: you should watch Guyver, those movies are tight.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 11, 2007, 11:32:52 PM: Quote from: demi on April 11, 2007, 11:30:57 PM
you should watch Guyver, those movies are tight.
bump more pd hate topics
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 11, 2007, 11:37:16 PM: Quote from: Cheebs on April 11, 2007, 11:28:36 PM
What would you do if you were the age you are right now when Unforgiven sweeped in 1992 oscars?

Nothing. I'd just wait for it to come out on VHS and watch it. I'd probably be more disappointed though, because I'd see all that hype first hand and then see the movie didn't deserve any of it
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 11, 2007, 11:40:24 PM: unforgiven is over rated. I don't see the appeal to it.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:01:48 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 11, 2007, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on April 11, 2007, 11:28:36 PM
What would you do if you were the age you are right now when Unforgiven sweeped in 1992 oscars?

Nothing. I'd just wait for it to come out on VHS and watch it. I'd probably be more disappointed though, because I'd see all that hype first hand and then see the movie didn't deserve any of it

I still can't believe you didn't understand that movie. Even the slightest knowledge of American history and the Western genre is all that's needed to comprehend the film's themes.

You have absolutely no eye for subtlety. I pity you.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:03:28 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:01:48 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 11, 2007, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on April 11, 2007, 11:28:36 PM
What would you do if you were the age you are right now when Unforgiven sweeped in 1992 oscars?

Nothing. I'd just wait for it to come out on VHS and watch it. I'd probably be more disappointed though, because I'd see all that hype first hand and then see the movie didn't deserve any of it

I still can't believe you didn't understand that movie. Even the slightest knowledge of American history and the Western genre is all that's needed to comprehend the film's themes.

You have absolutely no eye for subtlety. I pity you.

American history? Are you joking? Give me an example
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Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:09:39 AM: Err, an example of what? Look, man, Unforgiven is about the whitewashing of America's frontier history and western expansionism and tearing down the violent, heroic myths that arose from that period in the form of the traditional Western film.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:21:09 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:09:39 AM
Err, an example of what? Look, man, Unforgiven is about the whitewashing of America's frontier history and western expansionism and tearing down the violent, heroic myths that arose from that period in the form of the traditional Western film.

That's all well and good but it doesn't excuse the movie's flaws. I know enough about American history to tell you yes, that was indeed a savage period in the US - yet that's not even portrayed in the movie. Instead we get a pussy ass sherriff and a town that lets a black guy fuck prostitutes (as if that would EVER happen in 1880). So please, don't talk to me about American history.

What was the relevence of Eastwood repeating the same lines over and over again? I must be too ignorant to understand why he had to tell the audience "no, I used to be a no good dirty son of a bitch killer back in the day but my...wife straightened me out" every ten minutes?
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:25:44 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:21:09 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:09:39 AM
Err, an example of what? Look, man, Unforgiven is about the whitewashing of America's frontier history and western expansionism and tearing down the violent, heroic myths that arose from that period in the form of the traditional Western film.

That's all well and good but it doesn't excuse the movie's flaws. I know enough about American history to tell you yes, that was indeed a savage period in the US - yet that's not even portrayed in the movie. Instead we get a pussy ass sherriff and a town that lets a black guy fuck prostitutes (as if that would EVER happen in 1880). So please, don't talk to me about American history.

Pussy ass sheriff? Did you want Little Bill to be a TOTAL BADASS? That's not what the movie is about. In real life, there are shades of gray. Little Bill isn't a character type, he's a human being. He's not portrayed as being this evil monster, because he's not. He's just an old killer trying to retire and live out his life in peace and quiet.

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:21:09 AM

What was the relevence of Eastwood repeating the same lines over and over again? I must be too ignorant to understand why he had to tell the audience "no, I used to be a no good dirty son of a bitch killer back in the day but my...wife straightened me out" every ten minutes?

Jesus H. Christ. :lol

Don't you get the meaning behind the repetition? He's a bad man who's trying to convince himself that he's reformed and that he's no longer violent and out-of-control. He's basically repeating a lie and trying to make it true. He desperately wants to believe (and wants others to reassure him) that he's a moral man, especially because he's getting older and death is getting closer. Look at how quickly he decides to take the job to murder a man, and recruits the Morgan Freeman character.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:26:49 AM: Yes, I'm so impressed. ::)
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2007, 12:27:32 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:01:48 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 11, 2007, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on April 11, 2007, 11:28:36 PM
What would you do if you were the age you are right now when Unforgiven sweeped in 1992 oscars?

Nothing. I'd just wait for it to come out on VHS and watch it. I'd probably be more disappointed though, because I'd see all that hype first hand and then see the movie didn't deserve any of it

I still can't believe you didn't understand that movie. Even the slightest knowledge of American history and the Western genre is all that's needed to comprehend the film's themes.

You have absolutely no eye for subtlety. I pity you.

You should have seen his 2001 impressions.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:28:51 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:26:49 AM
Yes, I'm so ignorant. ::)

Fixed.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 12:30:42 AM: jesus hell, little bill isn't SUPPOSED to be a monster. that's the WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF THE CHARACTER!
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: bagofeyes on April 12, 2007, 12:30:48 AM: Dumb people piss me off
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:31:44 AM: Eastwood's character was beyond bland and pretentious. It's not like the first reformed killer to be presented in a Western; his constant sermons on being a new man could have been handled so much better, and with much more...subtlety
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2007, 12:32:23 AM: Subtlety that only Tom Cruise can display.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 12:33:06 AM: he's NOT a reformed killer -- he *is* a killer. his "sermons" are LIES. there are no heroes in the movie -- everyone is evil, and the man who lies to himself the most is the worst of them all. the movie is about contradictions. you want to hate little bill because he's set up as the villain and you want to cheer for clint eastwood because he's clint, but in the end, clint's the one with the dead soul and little bill's just another corpse in his wake.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2007, 12:33:51 AM: No, Drinky, I don't think you understand. He was a killer, but then his wife straightened him out!
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:36:11 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 12:33:06 AM
he's NOT a reformed killer -- he *is* a killer. his "sermons" are LIES. there are no heroes in the movie -- everyone is evil, and the man who lies to himself the most is the worst of them all.

I never said he was a hero. If anything it seemed like his wife was able to tame him, but it just took a traumatic loss for him to just snap.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:37:04 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 12:33:06 AM
he's NOT a reformed killer -- he *is* a killer. his "sermons" are LIES. there are no heroes in the movie -- everyone is evil, and the man who lies to himself the most is the worst of them all.

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Don't you get the meaning behind the repetition? He's a bad man who's trying to convince himself that he's reformed and that he's no longer violent and out-of-control. He's basically repeating a lie and trying to make it true. He desperately wants to believe (and wants others to reassure him) that he's a moral man, especially because he's getting older and death is getting closer. Look at how quickly he decides to take the job to murder a man, and recruits the Morgan Freeman character.

PD, plz read both these quotes a few times and try to understand the character of William Munny. It's obvious that you didn't get what Eastwood was doing in presenting his protagonist.

Eastwood's character is neither hero nor anti-hero. Hell, you can look at him as being the villain of the piece, basically coming into a town, disrupting its peace and killing its sheriff. When he rides off, the women aren't looking at him in awe and gratitude. They're shocked and horrified after they've finally realized the events they set in motion by hiring a killer.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 12:39:56 AM: he wasn't tamed. he knew what he was getting into, and he wanted to do it, despite his pleas to the audience. he was a bad, merciless man, and we only liked him because the movie taught us to side with vengeful prostitutes and greedy hired guns. it was a great performance from clint.

if he convinced you he was tamed, pd, then he did a great job, because that's what the role was supposed to do: make you forgive a psychopath until his nature is fully revealed. if we hadn't believed him, the ending would have been meaningless.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:42:20 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 12:39:56 AM
he wasn't tamed. he knew what he was getting into, and he wanted to do it, despite his pleas to the audience. he was a bad, merciless man, and we only liked him because the movie taught us to side with vengeful prostitutes and greedy hired guns. it was a great performance from clint.

Exactly. If they had reversed the roles, and Eastwood had been playing the sheriff and the story was told from his perspective, we'd be cheering for the sheriff and horrified when the drunk gunman massacres everyone in the saloon.

There's a reason the movie's so acclaimed, PD. It deconstructs the western and plays with all its genre elements. I love Leone's movies more, but Unforgiven is the deeper film.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 12:43:48 AM: OH MY GOD
HOLY FUCK
NONONONO
ABORTABORT
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:43:58 AM: I'm not impressed at all by this opinionated take on such a mediocre film
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 12:45:20 AM: the movie gives us some nicely placed sympathetic moments for little bill, too: his clumsy carpentry, his friendships, and his moments of weird pathos for the bloodthirsty whores despite how their feud was destroying the peace. he could easily have been a hero in a tough place in a different western.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:45:43 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:43:58 AM
I'm not impressed at all by this opinionated take on such a mediocre film

What movies would you qualify as masterpieces, O Man of No Taste?
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 12:46:59 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:43:58 AM
I'm not impressed at all by this opinionated take on such a mediocre film

maybe something simpler would be more to your tastes: the quick and the dead, maybe?
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:47:41 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 12:46:59 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:43:58 AM
I'm not impressed at all by this opinionated take on such a mediocre film

maybe something simpler would be more to your tastes: the quick and the dead, maybe?

That's actually a pretty fun film. I'd like it more if Sharon Stone weren't in it.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 12:49:03 AM: I didn't like Citizen Kane. He wasn't evil enough. Now maybe if Darth Vader was the bad guy...
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 12:49:41 AM: oh, i liked it too -- i didn't even mind sharon stone, although she was too "pretty" for the role. the gal who played calamity jane in deadwood woulda been perfect. (that was one of the few convincing "female badass" roles i've seen not portrayed by sigourney weaver.) it's probably my favorite sam raimi film, for sure, but there's no denying that it's about as deep as phoenixdark's cinematic credentials.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:50:00 AM: Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on April 12, 2007, 12:49:03 AM
I didn't like Citizen Kane. He wasn't evil enough. Now maybe if Darth Vader was the bad guy...

I didn't like Casablanca. Why didn't Humphrey Bogart end up with Ingrid Bergman? So lame. Also, they should have killed more Nazis in an awesome action-packed shootout at the end.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2007, 12:50:13 AM: LETS NOT SAY THINGS WE CANT TAKE BACK
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Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 12:51:09 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on April 12, 2007, 12:49:03 AM
I didn't like Citizen Kane. He wasn't evil enough. Now maybe if Darth Vader was the bad guy...

I didn't like Casablanca. Why didn't Humphrey Bogart end up with Ingrid Bergman? So lame. Also, they should have killed more Nazis in an awesome action-packed shootout at the end.
The Nazisd should have been aliens. And Bergman's role should of been played by a latina with a large ass.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 12:51:13 AM: i hated fried green tomatoes. why couldn't we see more of kathy bates' tits?

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what :punch
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Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 12:51:33 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 12:51:13 AM
i hated fried green tomatoes. why couldn't we see more of kathy bates' tits?

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what :punch
:-\
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:52:26 AM: Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on April 12, 2007, 12:51:09 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on April 12, 2007, 12:49:03 AM
I didn't like Citizen Kane. He wasn't evil enough. Now maybe if Darth Vader was the bad guy...

I didn't like Casablanca. Why didn't Humphrey Bogart end up with Ingrid Bergman? So lame. Also, they should have killed more Nazis in an awesome action-packed shootout at the end.
The Nazisd should have been aliens. And Bergman's role should of been played by a latina with a large ass.

Remake of Casablanca with Will Smith, Hugo Weaving (alien Nazi) and Salma Hayek in 2008 CONFIRMED.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:54:14 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:45:43 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 12:43:58 AM
I'm not impressed at all by this opinionated take on such a mediocre film

What movies would you qualify as masterpieces, O Man of No Taste?

Why, so you can "critique" them? Go ahead and troll them; considering I'm trolling this thread I won't get upset if you do (this applies more to Drinky than you of course)

Masterpieces in terms of being movies I'd give a 10/10? Well my favorite movie is To Kill a Mockingbird. Also, Imitation of Life is my second or third favorite movie. Personally I feel both are perfect, and far from run of the mill movies. Especially Imitation of Life because it touches on so many social issues that are still being debated over today.

Then there are movies that are perfect in other ways. For instance, I think Raiders is masterfully paced. I wouldn't call it a "perfect" movie, but with respect to its pacing (among other things) it's a masterpiece. Another example: from a technical perspective I find a movie like Goodfellas to be masterful. Recently Children of Men really impressed me in this regard, for the cinematography. But of course I wouldn't consider either movie to be "pefect" in full
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Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 12:56:22 AM: Quote
News: Phoenix Dark doesn't "get" Unforgiven - let's all LOL at him!

:lol
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Post by: TVC15 on April 12, 2007, 12:57:33 AM: Jesus, I have read PD's shitty reviews before, but this is the worst. He didn't even understand the movie.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:00:37 AM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 12, 2007, 12:57:33 AM
Jesus, I have read PD's shitty reviews before, but this is the worst. He didn't even understand the movie.

Yeah, it's one of the worst things I've ever read. Never have I seen someone miss every single thematic undertone in a film...
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 12, 2007, 01:00:43 AM: Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on April 12, 2007, 12:49:03 AM
I didn't like Citizen Kane. He wasn't evil enough. Now maybe if Darth Vader was the bad guy...

Citizen Kane is my favorite movie ever.
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Post by: Himu on April 12, 2007, 01:01:08 AM: Can someone explain Singin' In The Rain? I don't get it.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 01:01:43 AM: Quote from: Father_Mike on April 12, 2007, 01:00:43 AM
Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on April 12, 2007, 12:49:03 AM
I didn't like Citizen Kane. He wasn't evil enough. Now maybe if Darth Vader was the bad guy...

Citizen Kane is my favorite movie ever.
It would have been better if Kane had a shrimp boat or fought in a war or shook hands with Woodrow Wilson.
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Post by: Himu on April 12, 2007, 01:02:43 AM: I must have drank 12 Dr Peppers.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 01:03:42 AM: Quote from: Himuro on April 12, 2007, 01:01:08 AM
Can someone explain Singin' In The Rain? I don't get it.
The rain represents bitter Sega fanboy tears. The singing represents fanboy spin in the face of a downpour from Sony.

yes, the rain can be two things
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Post by: Himu on April 12, 2007, 01:04:46 AM: Is Shenmue in there?
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 01:08:05 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on April 12, 2007, 12:57:33 AM
Jesus, I have read PD's shitty reviews before, but this is the worst. He didn't even understand the movie.

Yeah, it's one of the worst things I've ever read. Never have I seen someone miss every single thematic undertone in a film...

to his "credit", he'd probably already selected unforgiven as his "bash movie" long before he actually sat down and watched it. he's kinda predictable like that. trouble is, this time, he really picked the wrong movie.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:09:16 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 01:08:05 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on April 12, 2007, 12:57:33 AM
Jesus, I have read PD's shitty reviews before, but this is the worst. He didn't even understand the movie.

Yeah, it's one of the worst things I've ever read. Never have I seen someone miss every single thematic undertone in a film...

to his "credit", he'd probably already selected unforgiven as his "bash movie" long before he actually sat down and watched it. he's kinda predictable like that. trouble is, this time, he really picked the wrong movie.

Why would he pick a movie to bash before watching it, though? I don't see the point, unless he's just trying to distinguish himself by going against the grain somehow. ???
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 01:10:08 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 01:08:05 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on April 12, 2007, 12:57:33 AM
Jesus, I have read PD's shitty reviews before, but this is the worst. He didn't even understand the movie.

Yeah, it's one of the worst things I've ever read. Never have I seen someone miss every single thematic undertone in a film...

to his "credit", he'd probably already selected unforgiven as his "bash movie" long before he actually sat down and watched it. he's kinda predictable like that. trouble is, this time, he really picked the wrong movie.

Oh please. Why would I bash a movie I was quite excited to watch? Before watching it I expressed that I was looking forward to seeing it. I watched The Prestige first before I thought it would be the worse movie out of the three I rented; I was dead wrong about the Prestige, as I really loved it. I loved Children of Men as well.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 01:12:26 AM: he's pd. he enjoyes playing the contrarian. he probably picked unforgiven because he could play it against the leone movies and possibly get folks on his side, unaware that leone fans usually like unforgiven. i don't know. he's a contrived internet personality first and a legitimate cinemaphile as a distant second. who knows!
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 01:13:59 AM: Nice spin :-\

I've always liked Eastwood. Ask Cheebs: I remember talking to him about Unforgiven some time ago, and even thought about buying it
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Post by: BlueTsunami on April 12, 2007, 01:15:13 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 12:51:13 AM
i hated fried green tomatoes. why couldn't we see more of kathy bates' tits?

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what :punch

Oh man. I forgot who Cathy Bates was and Google imaged her name. The first image is the money shit :-\
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 01:15:39 AM: the fact that you missed most of the major themes of the movie -- themes that are quite unambiguous and well-framed, much like the prestige -- lends a little more credence to the idea that you were predisposed toward bashing the movie.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2007, 01:18:06 AM: Yeah, this reeks of pre-planned Internet persona hijinks. Wrong movie to do it with, though.
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Post by: Himu on April 12, 2007, 01:18:41 AM: I hope he doesn't bash 2001 any time soon.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 01:20:01 AM: himu, as evilbore's resident gay black man, does hating unforgiven sound like something a brother would do?
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Post by: Human Snorenado on April 12, 2007, 01:20:19 AM: Quote from: Willco on April 12, 2007, 01:18:06 AM
Yeah, this reeks of pre-planned Internet persona hijinks. Wrong movie to do it with, though.

I just thought of the right movie!
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 01:20:49 AM: Bullshit. Anyone can tell you I was looking forward to watching the movie.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 01:21:00 AM: the best movie to troll is either i :heartbeat huckabees or garden state
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Post by: Himu on April 12, 2007, 01:21:21 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 01:20:01 AM
himu, as evilbore's resident gay black man, does hating unforgiven sound like something a brother would do?

I haven't seen Unforgiven so I have no opinion. Westerns really aren't my genre so..
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 01:21:34 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 01:20:49 AM
Bullshit. Anyone can tell you I was looking forward to watching the movie.

so you're just cinematically illiterate, then? duly noted!
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 01:21:38 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2007, 01:20:49 AM
Bullshit. Anyone can tell you I was looking forward to bashing the movie.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 12, 2007, 01:21:44 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 01:21:00 AM
the best movie to troll is either i :heartbeat huckabees or garden state

SPIDER HYPHEN MAN 3
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:22:33 AM: I bet PD never imagined the shitstorm his Unforgiven review would create. He needs to print out that review, frame it, and put it up on his bedroom wall.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 01:22:47 AM: the trolling for spider-hyphen-man 3 will be spectacular

willco will run squealing into the night
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 12, 2007, 01:23:25 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 12, 2007, 01:22:47 AM
the trolling for spider-hyphen-man 3 will be spectacular

willco will run squealing into the night

IT HAS BEGUN
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: TVC15 on April 12, 2007, 01:24:47 AM: Willco has stated on several occasions that he can't vouch for Spider-Man 3's quality because there have been too many red flags.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2007, 01:25:08 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:22:33 AM
I bet PD never imagined the shitstorm his Unforgiven review would create. He needs to print out that review, frame it, and put it up on his bedroom wall.
Quote from: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:22:33 AM
I bet PD never imagined the shitstorm his Unforgiven review would create. He needs to print out that review, frame it, and put it up on his bedroom wall.

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=5224.msg125012#msg125012
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 12, 2007, 01:25:24 AM: dude, he can't NOT nosh on raimi's knob. we will make him our special little piggy.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 01:26:05 AM: (http://www.celebslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/kirsten-dunst-back-to-school.jpg)
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 12, 2007, 01:28:37 AM: Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on April 12, 2007, 01:26:05 AM
(http://www.celebslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/kirsten-dunst-back-to-school.jpg)

so thats the face a woman would make when her boobs try and make a break for it.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 12, 2007, 01:29:30 AM: what boobs?

what woman?
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2007, 01:38:28 AM: I'm not vouching for Spider-Man 3.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:48:32 AM: Quote from: Willco on April 12, 2007, 01:38:28 AM
I'm not vouching for Spider-Man 3.

Bububububut...in Raimi we trust! No? :'(
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2007, 01:51:45 AM: Not for this one. Too many things have gone awry. This reeks of Laura Ziskin and Avi Arad demanding Venom, a character Raimi swore up and down he'd never introduce during his tour as Spidey show runner. Equal blame will be put on Raimi, for letting his ego think he could handle such studio demands and make a cohesive picture ("I'm Sam Raimi, I can do anything!").

It's hard to keep doing a smash-hit franchise with the same cast and crew in separate installments. By the third one, the franchise is full of ego and excess. I think this may be the case here.

That said, I'll see it opening day.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 01:54:03 AM: Do you think it would be better if he'd stuck with just one villain, or was the movie just destined to flop? Seems like no superhero franchise can reach a third film without crashing and burning. I think he had to stuff in so many bad guys as a sop to the toy manufacturers, so they can sell Sandman, Radical Goblin, Black Spider-Man, and Venom toys.

I still plan to see it. Spider-Man 2 is one of my all-time favorite superhero movies, along with Darkman and Unbreakable.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2007, 02:10:50 AM: I think the original intention was probably Harry as a Goblin and another villain, like The Lizard. The Sandman doesn't surprise me and my guess is that he's not the heartless, write-in killer of Uncle Ben as he's claimed.
Title: Re: Did I Miss 5 "PD Has Horrible Movie Tastes" Topics?
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2007, 02:12:11 AM: I wonder if the outline that's been presented so far is accurate.

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Harry and Spidey teaming up to take down Venom and Sandman, Harry dying, Venom dying but the symbiote surviving, etc.
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