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Title: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 06:25:16 PM: I expected that kind of devotion to a rehashed, jazzed-up reworking of fantasy concepts from Phoenix Dark, who was probably excited with the fact that he could even read a book that doesn't have a messianic arctype, but not from Bloodwake.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 21, 2007, 06:32:01 PM: Cloud loves those books too.

Bloodwake homeschooled confirmed.
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Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:33:03 PM: i've never read the books and when one of my friends was going to see the first one in the theaters i was like 'lol?' becuae it was harry potter. i mean he is a nerd rite. but a couple of years later i saw the movies and i really liked them. they get better and better.

they're really fun.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 06:33:18 PM: I love the books, and like the movies. The first two were meh, but still enjoyable at times for fans. The third was brilliant. The last one was mixed - some of it was good (Mad Eye, Voldermort), some was horrible ("a man Harry? But who?)
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Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:34:43 PM: which one was the one with the bus and jamaican in london? that's probably my favourite of the ones i've seen so far.
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Post by: demi on April 21, 2007, 06:34:49 PM: They're fun books. Don't take them seriously. The GBC/GBA games are dope as fuck, they are full-fledged RPGs. Some are anyway.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 06:35:13 PM: Quote from: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:34:43 PM
which one was the one with the bus and jamaican in london?

Prisoner of Akzaban (the third). Easily the best
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:38:16 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:34:43 PM
which one was the one with the bus and jamaican in london?

Prisoner of Akzaban (the third). Easily the best

that's the one.

gary oldman :bow
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 06:39:45 PM: The books are entertaining fluff. Nothing special. I appreciate that it has introduced fantasy concepts to a younger generation that was more apt to order 2 Fast 2 Furious novelizations from their Scholastic public school sales flyers, but the belief that it's the best thing written since print was invented is ridiculous and completely insulting.

The movies are awful. I had to restrain from falling asleep during the first two. The third one was decent and the closest to being a good film. The last one was awful, and as I posted elsewhere, is absolutely a slap in the face as an aspiring screenwriter, because Goblet of Fire is the easiest of the books to turn into a good, exciting movie. Cho Seung-hui could've made Goblet of Fire an entertaining movie for crying out loud!

Again, the problem is that twerps like Phoenix Dark will get their panties in a bunch if the filmmakers opt to take liberties with the source material. They already get upset when stuff from the books is cut out or not mentioned altogether (like the house elves organization). But by cramming as much crap into a film and cutting out the rest, they're like awful Cliff Notes versions of the books. They're tedious and uninteresting, and if any of the cast were to be shot to death on screen, I wouldn't shed a tear.

I'd probably applaud.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 06:44:03 PM: Willco playing the lone critic again. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone credible who thinks all the movies "suck".
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: brawndolicious on April 21, 2007, 06:45:30 PM: You mean movie reviews? I don't trust a jack-off that does that for a living.

Movies do suck.

Books are absolutely aweful.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 06:46:02 PM: You insulted Unforgiven and FDR this month, sir. You are in no way, shape or form, certified to call me a lone critic.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 06:46:38 PM: Actually we're brothers in that sense. I like a man willing to go against the grain
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 21, 2007, 06:47:28 PM: The movies were pretty bad.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 06:48:39 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 06:46:38 PM
Actually we're brothers in that sense. I like a man willing to go against the grain

I'm not really going against the grain. Outside of the Harry Potter fanbase, which is large, the films are hardly adored. That's like saying if you removed Christianity, the rest of the world doesn't care about Christ, though.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: bluemax on April 21, 2007, 06:49:09 PM: I feel like I'm one of the few people in the world who doesn't like Harry Potter. I read the first 3 or 4 books (not when they were new) in like a week one summer and they were the most formulaic books I'd read in a long time. How is Harry Potter so big when other formulaic British Children's literature like Redwall isn't?
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Post by: Vizzys on April 21, 2007, 06:51:36 PM: read artemis fowl, it has fairys. its pretty gay/awesomely gay. better then harry potter. the author calls it "die hard with fairys", and it fits well.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:53:22 PM: fdr?

what movie is that
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: brawndolicious on April 21, 2007, 06:54:04 PM: Quote from: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:53:22 PM
fdr?
what movie is that
president.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:55:13 PM: ???
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: bluemax on April 21, 2007, 06:55:52 PM: franklin delano roosevelt...
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 06:56:34 PM: Quote from: bluemax
I feel like I'm one of the few people in the world who doesn't like Harry Potter. I read the first 3 or 4 books (not when they were new) in like a week one summer and they were the most formulaic books I'd read in a long time. How is Harry Potter so big when other formulaic British Children's literature like Redwall isn't?

Because Rowling has reworked some good fantasy concepts, with a ~~unique~~ interesting twist on good versus evil, and made it a tale of growing up in adolescence (I'm assuming having not read Redwall, that it is different from that). It strikes all the right chords with younger readers and it's actually well written for this type of fare (the same cannot be said for something like Eragorn). If you've read George R. Martin, Tolkien, C.S. Lewis or what have you, these are concepts you've read before, but Harry Potter is not intimidating to your average reader. Trying to get an elementary student to read C.S. Lewis is like pulling teeth, but Harry Potter is a concept they can get behind. It's far less alien and as a kid with magical powers following a generic hero arctype, it's much more exciting.

My brother is diagnosed with some kind of learning disability, and as so, he finds reading a frustrating experience that he usually avoids at all costs. But he sat down and read Harry Potter. I can't hate on that.

The movies are just awful, though. They're pure fan service, so if you're not a devout fan, they kind of blow.
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Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 06:56:45 PM: ohhhhh
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 06:56:50 PM: :lol bud
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 06:56:56 PM: i liked the third movie. 1, 2 and 4 are indeed awful.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 06:57:53 PM: Yeah, Prisoner of Azkaban was the only one I enjoyed watching whatsoever. I think they criminally underused Gary Oldman, though.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Vizzys on April 21, 2007, 06:59:05 PM: have yur kids read artemis fowl over harry potter for good measure.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:00:40 PM: I don't think having kids read Harry Potter is a bad thing, unless they start becoming pompous, delusional literature critics that claim that Harry Potter reinvented the fantasy genre and put the series on a pedestal. It's disgusting.

I find it hysterical that Christian fundies hate the books so much, when they are more like the Harry Potter fanbase than any other base in the world.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: brawndolicious on April 21, 2007, 07:07:42 PM: Kids would like Artemis Fowl more if only because it makes them realize how shitty harry potter is and then they can become true ~~film~~ book snobs.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 07:11:48 PM: i think roald dahl, susan cooper, and philip pullman do a better job crossing the kid-adult fantasy lit boundary than rowling, but the 5th and 6th harry potter books were dumb fun. the previous four were awful, though.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:15:17 PM: They might be better authors, but the proof is in the readers - Rowling has done a better job. I agree with you, because Dahl is one of my favorite authors (Willy Wonka & The Glass Elevator is one of the darkest, most awesome children's stories ever!) and I was a fan of Cooper's The Grey King back in the day. I don't really know who Pullman is, though. :-\
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 07:16:33 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 07:15:17 PM
They might be better authors, but the proof is in the readers - Rowling has done a better job. I agree with you, because Dahl is one of my favorite authors (Willy Wonka & The Glass Elevator is one of the darkest, most awesome children's stories ever!) and I was a fan of Cooper's The Grey King back in the day. I don't really know who Pullman is, though. :-\

the greatest president the us has ever known
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Cheebs on April 21, 2007, 07:16:45 PM: I thought the books would remain popular but by the half-way point the series's rabid insanity of tickle me elmo proportions would fade, very surprised it lasted all the way through book 7 without taking a hit.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 07:17:21 PM: Philip Pullman did the His Dark Materials trilogy. It's a fun read, although I felt it bogged down a little at the end. Then again, I hated Cooper's 1st book -- Over Sea, Under Stone -- as well.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:19:17 PM: I think it's because it's obvious Rowling had some kind of outline for this series and is staying true to the course, all while tweaking things here and there and making the tone more sinister as the readers age. If she was just making it up as she went along, totally and completely, I think she would've hit a wall and the series would blow.

Think Frank Herbert and Dune.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 21, 2007, 07:21:09 PM: Eh, they're nothing spectacular, but I like the books, I like the movies, they're just fun.

And yes, Azkaban is the best film, mainly due to Cuaron's direction and decision to not adhere to the book. I'm sure glad the producers took note of his magical A Little Princess and gave him the reigns.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:23:43 PM: That's exactly my point. The shining point of the series, which is completely unspectacular, has been Prisoner of Azkaban. It is also the only one that attempts to take some liberties with the source material to create a somewhat coherent film (it does not succeed completely, I think it's rushed near the end and loses steam without a legitimate villain), but instead of learning from that, Warner Bros. replaced him with the hack that made Donnie Brasco and returned to its Cliff Notes formula. That blows.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 21, 2007, 07:24:03 PM: I will very dissapointed if PoA is the only exceptional movie out of the 7 when things are said and done. The other 3 are by the book rehashes that don't feel as much like real films.

This series should have waited 10 years or at the very least 5 years after the series finished to do films, doing them as the books release leaves very little room to interpretation and fresh ideas that are almost always needed in book to film translations.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 21, 2007, 07:40:53 PM: The proof of Harry Potter's success is this: Willco, Drinky Crow - both grown men - readily admit to having read the books, ostensibly children's literature. The fact that the Harry Potter books crossed this barrier, going from children's books to a phenomenon experienced by both kids and adults, is why Rowling is so successful (and filthy rich).

I haven't read any of the books, or seen any movies past the first three. :shrug
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:44:35 PM: I don't know why Drinky read them, but I will admit why I did. I had no intention of ever reading Harry Potter, especially since I saw the first two films before I read the books (I was dragged by my younger siblings, both dabble in the occult of all things Potter).

But then a hot chick at my college who was into film was totally a Potter geek. And I totally wanted to go out with her. I mean, she was really into Potter. She'd launch into these huge diatribes about the film adaptations, she had fan art and all this stuff. So I sucked it up and read all of them. And we started to develop something and it fizzled out.

Yes, I read Potter books for a chick.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 21, 2007, 07:46:52 PM: The point remains that she was an adult who was a Harry Potter fan. While I'm not interested in reading the books (or watching the movies, for that matter), I think it's great that this series has gotten kids into reading. Hopefully once they're done with Harry Potter, they'll keep at it and it'll create a lifelong love for books. The fact that adults like it too means that, at the very least, Rowling's work is good entertainment.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 07:49:12 PM: You know why Harry Potter rocks?

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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 21, 2007, 07:50:06 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 07:44:35 PM
Yes, I read Potter books for a chick.

Wow, I'm not even that desperate.

Maybe I should be.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:51:12 PM: Yeah, they're entertaining, light reads. I'd recommend them for long flights, because they don't require that you pay extra attention to every detail, which is hard to do when you're in a tight, pressurized box with wings thousands of feet in the air.

And yes, while she was an adult, she started while she was a teenager - not when she was legal (oh yeah!). My issue is while kids do enjoy them, I don't see a lot branching out of the Potter universe. They pretty much become the literary equivalent of Star Wars geeks and I'm sure Rowling will be endlessly harassed for sequels, spinoffs and short stories in the same universe after she kills off Harry Potter in the 7th book later this year!

Quote from: CajoleJuice on April 21, 2007, 07:50:06 PM
Wow, I'm not even that desperate.

It wasn't desperation; she was hot and she had a great knack for cinema. She had awesome taste in film, I enjoyed talking about movies with her and she was nice to look at. You're telling me you wouldn't spend roughly a few days to breeze through some fantasy novels if you had the chance to elevate things with a girl like that? You lie!
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Post by: Ichirou on April 21, 2007, 07:53:00 PM: The Harry Potter Extended Universe?!
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Post by: bluemax on April 21, 2007, 07:53:05 PM: I applaud Rowling for getting kids to read, in this day and age that is a feat.

I do not enjoy all the people my age who think her books are some kind of good literature.
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Post by: Vizzys on April 21, 2007, 07:53:35 PM: Artemis fowl > Harry Potter

Artemis fowl movie 2008 you manchildren
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 07:53:39 PM: She's not going to kill off Harry.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 07:54:06 PM: i read part of the first and part of the second. then i saw the fourth movie and couldn't make head or fucking tails of it, so i read the book to figure out what the fuck was going on. my wife left the fifth and sixth books on our headboard bookstand thing, so i read 'em before bed. i later went back and skimmed 1-3, but found them largely unreadable crap.

seriously, if the fourth movie hadn't been so fucking hacked up and awful, my knowledge of harry potter the book series would be confined to half the first book and two chapters of the second.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:54:09 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 21, 2007, 07:53:00 PM
The Harry Potter Extended Universe?!

If you don't think that's coming, I have a house in Alaska to sell you. It's a nice, sunny place that is great for ~~losing your mind and wanting to kill your family~~ vacationing!
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Post by: Vizzys on April 21, 2007, 07:55:19 PM: He'll feel right at home with all the asians living here.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:55:24 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 07:53:39 PM
She's not going to kill off Harry.

Harry Potter is going to die. Scholastic will start selling Hogwarts tissue packs by the end of the first week and make millions of dollars. It's all a huge marketing scam.
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Post by: demi on April 21, 2007, 07:56:29 PM: Ramona Quimby is a vixen.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 07:57:12 PM: Also, at least the Potter movies are competently done. which is more than I can say about the Spider-Man movies. How the fuck can someone make a boring Spider-Man movie? How? How did Raimi manage to do it twice?
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:57:17 PM: Quote from: demi on April 21, 2007, 07:56:29 PM
Ramona Quimby is a vixen.

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Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:58:02 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 07:57:12 PM
Also, at least the Potter movies are competently done.

Not really. One is - Prisoner of Azkaban. The rest look like they were directed by a robot.
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Post by: demi on April 21, 2007, 07:58:41 PM: I'd fuck her so hard.
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Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 07:59:00 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 07:57:12 PM
Also, at least the Potter movies are competently done. which is more than I can say about the Spider-Man movies. How the fuck can someone make a boring Spider-Man movie? How? How did Raimi manage to do it twice?

spider-man 2's pacing could've been better but it was not by any means boring.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 07:59:05 PM: Quote from: demi on April 21, 2007, 07:58:41 PM
I'd fuck her so hard.

I think this thread is headed down a terrible, dark place where no man's soul may return.

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spider-man 2's pacing could've been better but it was not by any means boring.

Don't indulge him!
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Post by: demi on April 21, 2007, 07:59:45 PM: Roxy Quimby.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 07:59:49 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 07:58:02 PM
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Also, at least the Potter movies are competently done.

Not really. One is - Prisoner of Azkaban. The rest look like they were directed by a robot.

And they still managed to come out better than the Spider-Man movies.

The first 3 movies are all pretty decent. The fourth one is the only one I found serious fault with.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 08:01:45 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 07:59:49 PM
The first 3 movies are all pretty decent.

Again, not really. The first two are awful. The third one is decent, because it's relatively coherent. If you could stay awake through the first two Potter movies, but were so bored by Lord of the Rings that you did not even watch Return of the King - something is wrong with you!

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The fourth one is the only one I found serious fault with.

That one was not only awful, but the source material was so ripe for a good popcorn movie that I want to punch whomever wrote that in the ballsac.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 21, 2007, 08:06:20 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 07:51:12 PM
It wasn't desperation; she was hot and she had a great knack for cinema. She had awesome taste in film, I enjoyed talking about movies with her and she was nice to look at. You're telling me you wouldn't spend roughly a few days to breeze through some fantasy novels if you had the chance to elevate things with a girl like that? You lie!

I'd find another way to elevate. Or something.

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Post by: Ichirou on April 21, 2007, 08:08:43 PM: People, this thread is for trolling Harry Potter. If you want to troll Spidey, there's a perfectly good thread about Spider-Man 2.1 on the first page.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 21, 2007, 08:09:17 PM: Something really weird just happened with that last post I made. wtf
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 08:09:58 PM: Occult magick.
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Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 08:11:36 PM: the only thing that really bothered my about spider-man 2 was campbell's cameo.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 08:11:40 PM: Awww, look, Willco can't handle that the Potter flicks are better than the Shitter-Man movies.

The first three movies are all well done. The first movie does a good job at the reveal and the effects are really top notch. When you first watch it, it was really cool to go down the rabbit whole of the wizarding world. The movie conveyed the world very well. It is, unfortunately, a little boring. The second movie picks up the slack, and since they didn't have to focus as much on getting the world right (they showed they could with the first movie), the areas that needed work were improved. The story was told well and the pacing was brisk. I prefer the second movie to the second book, actually.

The third movie, well, needs no defense.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 08:13:52 PM: Not really, it's just that you're trolling me and I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago (you like Uwe Boll!), but I hate it when a legitimately awesome topic degenerate into actual debate (Ichirou/bud v. you). The trolling is only funny when it's funny, like with Drinky. If you want to seriously argue it, you can argue with Ichirou on it in the Spidey thread.

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The first three movies are all well done. The first movie does a good job at the reveal and the effects are really top notch. When you first watch it, it was really cool to go down the rabbit whole of the wizarding world. The movie conveyed the world very well. It is, unfortunately, a little boring. The second movie picks up the slack, and since they didn't have to focus as much on getting the world right (they showed they could with the first movie), the areas that needed work were improved. The story was told well and the pacing was brisk. I prefer the second movie to the second book, actually.

The two movies are awful. Again, explain how you think they're well done and not boring compared to Lord of the Rings - which is in the same genre of film.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 08:15:34 PM: Willco, that is some of the worst deflection I've ever seen: Take it elsewhere because no real discussion is allowed here?

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The two movies are awful. Again, explain how you think they're well done and not boring compared to Lord of the Rings - which is in the same genre of film.

The first hour or so of the first movie is good stuff and very interesting. It loses the score once the big reveal portions of the movie are done, though. It gets a little boring.

The second movie has the stuff done right from the first movie along with brisker pacing and more of a focus on the actual story than on just the setting.

I'm not saying they are great movies, but to say they are "awful" is ridiculous. They are big shiny movies, not high art.
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Post by: Candyflip on April 21, 2007, 08:16:56 PM: Hah. I liked Lord of the Rings, too. Even the multiple endings of ROTK. I guess I'm a sucker for boring movies.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 21, 2007, 08:17:31 PM: I cant handle the first two movies now. Not only because they are weak but it's just to WEIRD to see those actors at like 10-11 now.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 08:18:06 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 08:15:34 PM
Willco, that is some of the worst deflection I've ever seen: Take it elsewhere because no real discussion is allowed here?

You don't want to really discuss it, you just want to troll me! And instead of discussing the films merits in its actual genre, like a good Lord of the Rings troll would've done, I knew someone was going to respond seriously to you and it'd become a Spidey bitch thread. Ichirou just proved my point (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=7762.msg185375#msg185375), so have at him.

Instead of trolling the same line, which is awfully boring, how about not showcasing some of the worst deflection I've seen in where you praise the first two Potter films, but won't even see Return of the King?
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Post by: bud on April 21, 2007, 08:20:14 PM: what the hell is going on here.

tvc hates the spidey movies, hates lotr and won't even see the last one and likes uwe boll ???
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 08:20:17 PM: See my updated post.

For all I know, Return of the King might be the greatest movie ever, but I'll never see it because The Two Towers was so incredibly boring that I fell asleep during multiple watch attempts. I can't see the third without seeing the second. I kinda dig the first movie, though.

Concerning Uwe, he makes entertaining awful movies. House of the Dead and Bloodrayne are both unintentionally hilarious. Alone in the Dark isn't in so bad it's good territory despite having that hilariously awesome trailer.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 08:23:56 PM: I'll take Helm's Deep over Harry Potter's first two adventures.

First, he is portrayed in films as a slacker and a jerk, but popular, so he gets away with everything. What the fuck, who wants to root for a character like that? He never does his homework, doesn't know how to do magic, but because his parents died, everything is handed to him on a silver platter - including the storyline.

He has no real threat, because Voldemort is not a real villain yet and the film moves at a tedious pace. His middle school antics are only hilarious if you're in that grade level.

If you take high excitement like that over something like Helm's Deep, then I am boggled!
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 08:26:33 PM: we're discussing popcorn movies, mister film student. spider-man 2 and the two towers DRAG (except helm's deep -- that is indeed FUCKING AWESOME). that is a cardinal fucking sin for popcorn flicks. the columbus potter movies may be shallow pap, but at least you're never bored watching tobey macguire hamfistedly wrestle with personal demons. thank GOD.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 08:28:18 PM: I think I fell asleep before Helm's Deep. IIRC I usually dozed an hour to an hour and a half in.

And him getting everything on a silver platter is important to the story. He's gone his whole life being very famous in this world that he never even knew existed. It's totally a convention to further the whole going down the rabbit hole story of the first flick/book, but it works out.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 08:28:34 PM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 21, 2007, 08:26:33 PM
we're discussing popcorn movies, mister film student. spider-man 2 and the two towers DRAG (except helm's deep -- that is indeed FUCKING AWESOME). that is a cardinal fucking sin for popcorn flicks. the columbus potter movies may be shallow pap, but at least you're never bored watching tobey macguire hamfistedly wrestle with personal demons. thank GOD.

I beg to differ, the Potter films might be popcorn films, but that wasn't a legitimate criticism - it was a troll and you know it. Don't play cute. Furthermore, the Columbus-helmed films are so boring that you could've asked me to watch you cornhole Tobey Maguire and I would've said YES to get out of the theatre.

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And him getting everything on a silver platter is important to the story.

Did you read the books?! Harry's life was much improved, but he was humble and not some idiotic, popular jerk like he's portrayed in the films. He actually learned things and showcased skills in the books - he bumbles out of death in the films.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 21, 2007, 08:36:03 PM: Daniel Radcliffe is a terrible actor.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 08:37:27 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 08:28:34 PM
Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 21, 2007, 08:26:33 PM
we're discussing popcorn movies, mister film student. spider-man 2 and the two towers DRAG (except helm's deep -- that is indeed FUCKING AWESOME). that is a cardinal fucking sin for popcorn flicks. the columbus potter movies may be shallow pap, but at least you're never bored watching tobey macguire hamfistedly wrestle with personal demons. thank GOD.

I beg to differ, the Potter films might be popcorn films, but that wasn't a legitimate criticism - it was a troll and you know it. Don't play cute. Furthermore, the Columbus-helmed films are so boring that you could've asked me to watch you cornhole Tobey Maguire and I would've said YES to get out of the theatre.

Quote from: TVC
And him getting everything on a silver platter is important to the story.

Did you read the books?! Harry's life was much improved, but he was humble and not some idiotic, popular jerk like he's portrayed in the films. He actually learned things and showcased skills in the books - he bumbles out of death in the films.

I really think you're nit picking here. Daniel's acting aside, I don't think there's that big of a difference between Harry in the books and Harry in the movies.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 08:38:29 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 08:37:27 PM
I really think you're nit picking here. Daniel's acting aside, I don't think there's that big of a difference between Harry in the books and Harry in the movies.

:lol :lol

Okay, you got me. You had me going. That was a good one.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 08:40:25 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 08:37:27 PM
I really think you're nit picking here. Daniel's acting aside, I don't think there's that big of a difference between Harry in the books and Harry in the movies.

:lol :lol

Okay, you got me. You had me going. That was a good one.

I've read all the books several times. I never noticed any glaring differences between Harry in the movies and in the books.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 08:41:07 PM: I know you're joking - you're not going to get me with that. I'll let you try and con someone else for a change!
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 08:58:17 PM: The thing that annoys me about this thread is this sense that the books should be bashed because some people consider them classics. No one considers them classic literature. They're great fantasy books, period. Are they the best? Of course not. Why people continue trying to compare them to better fantasy books in order to discredit JK is astounding. Grown men trying to make little boys and girls cry. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

I love the Potter books. Love. And I'm not ashamed to admit that. I've read Tolkien, Lewis, Dahl, etc, and I love their work too. But while I do indeed think say Tolkien's work is more "impressive", Rowling's work has captured my heart and imagination far more. I can't honestly say I've ever read a book where I felt as connected to the characters as I do with Harry Potter. It's hard to explain, but the books really remind me of being younger and lonely - the books always cheered me up. Yeah, I said it.

There was a time when I hated Harry Potter. Not because I didn't like the books; I had never read them. I hated them because at the time I was your typical brainwashed asshole Christian-type. The books promoted witchcraft and taught people how to do magic as far as I was concerned. A friend of mine was really into the first couple books and would always try to get me to read them, but I refused. Finally I made him a deal: if he read The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe (I'm sure you guys know why I would suggest such a book at the time), I would read the Sorcerer's Stone.

So we made the deal, and I went home with his Potter book and started reading. And reading. And reading. I literally couldn't put it down. When I did put it down, I couldn't help thinking about it. For me it opened up a new world to me. After I finished I immediately begged my parents to help me buy the two books. The funny thing is that we bought them the day before we went off to some big bible conference in Chicago. I took the books there and read them in public, and no one cared. I remember the founder of Grace Impact doing a sermon on Harry Potter and how harmless it is; lol I remember him comparing the names in the book to Klingon language, and like half the church was looking around like "wtf is a Klingon". :lol
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Post by: MrAngryFace on April 21, 2007, 08:58:40 PM: Who cares, Children of Men was nothing like the fucking books but no of YOUSE gave a shit and want to give it oscars for its crap screenplay/
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 09:00:26 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 08:41:07 PM
I know you're joking - you're not going to get me with that. I'll let you try and con someone else for a change!

I don't even know what this means. There's nothing there to get you with. I'm just stating that I know the characters and I don't see any glaring discrepancy between their paper and film iterations.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 09:00:26 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 08:58:17 PM
No one considers them classic literature.

Like most of your posts, that is an uneducated post and a flat out lie.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 09:04:12 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 09:00:26 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 08:58:17 PM
No one considers them classic literature.

Like most of your posts, that is an uneducated post and a flat out lie.

What credible sources consider the Harry Potter books to be literature classics? Please don't say Steven King.

And even if some consider them to be classics, who fucking cares. The first three books were standard fantasy books with lots of introductury detective-esque shades. The fourth signaled a change in the books as they became considerably darker and complicated. The fifth and sixth books have really taken the series to a whole different level, and from what we know about book seven....it should continue this trend
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 21, 2007, 09:11:28 PM: I took my nephew to see the first two movies because he wanted to see them, but I really had no interest in the series at that time. Flash forward to December 2003, when I started dating my wife. She was rereading Azkaban in anticipation of the film and began trying to get me to read the books. I refused for the longest time, on some stupid "I have to dislike this damn series" kick. We saw Azkaban in the theater when it came out, and I still had yet to read any of the books. About a week after we saw the movie, I started reading them, and got hooked. Goblet of Fire (the book) rules.

So, yeah, you could say that I read the books because of a girl, too.

*Roald Dahl is my favorite children's writer, by the way. I grew up reading/having my mom read them to me.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 09:13:51 PM: Quote from: PhoenixPale
I can't honestly say I've ever read a book where I felt as connected to the characters as I do with Harry Potter.

pd whiteness confirmed
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 09:16:01 PM: You people laugh about Dumbledore's death like it's a joke, but when he died I almost dropped the book. Like not as in "I'm never reading this again", but as it almost fell out my hands. I stopped reading for like a day, just in sadness. I absolutely loved HBP though.

"The Cave" :bow
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Post by: Ichirou on April 21, 2007, 09:17:17 PM: DUMBLEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 09:17:58 PM: :supergay
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 09:19:29 PM: :rofl :rofl :rofl

Phoenix Dark is a joke character. When Cheebs finds him, it's going to be a 50-year-old white guy named Jerry. It's got to be. :lol
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 09:21:00 PM: Nah, my name is George
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 21, 2007, 09:21:20 PM: Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2007, 09:19:29 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl

Phoenix Dark is a joke character. When Cheebs finds him, it's going to be a 50-year-old white guy named Jerry. It's got to be. :lol

Eh, I know people in real life that are THAT into the Potter books.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 09:21:35 PM: whaddaya mean, when cheebs finds him? he'll find cheebs first, and then cheebs will find himself in pd's refrigerator minus his limbs and genitalia.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 09:22:25 PM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on April 21, 2007, 09:21:35 PM
whaddaya mean, when cheebs finds him? he'll find cheebs first, and then cheebs will find himself in pd's refrigerator minus his limbs and genitalia.

:lol

DUMBLEDORE DIED, PHOENIX DARK CRIED
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Bloodwake on April 21, 2007, 09:53:27 PM: Yep, I'm such a fanboy because I defended the series for LEGITIMATE REASONS.

Proving once again if I respond with good reasons Willco cries and calls me a fanboy.

Honestly, the movies weren't holy shit awesome cinema, but three was great and four was decent, and five, from the LOW QUALITY TRAILER THAT LEAKED, looked interesting.

I wish I didnt' say anything now. Willco trolls Harry Potter because he found a fucking japanese low quality bootleg trailer of the fifth movie boring. Jesus Christ, that's distinguished mentally-challenged by itself.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 09:56:53 PM: You are a fanboy, though! You said it yourself. You didn't really defend anything, as much as get upset that I called the books light, entertaining fare, which is what everyone with half a brain has already said in this thread. The movies are awful, though.

I just find it disappointing that you're a fan, because I liked you so much up until this point. I mean, with Phoenix Dark, it's just another button on his shirt of social hilarity.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2007, 09:58:06 PM: I didn't troll anything. The film looks boring. The bootleg trailer was pretty clear and if three of the four previous movies are any indication, it'll be another snoozefest. Series is boring, dude.
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Post by: tehjaybo on April 21, 2007, 09:59:27 PM: Hey look I'm posting in this thread posting lots of emoticons wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee zip zop zoobity bop
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Post by: Ichirou on April 21, 2007, 10:01:02 PM: Quote from: tehjaybo on April 21, 2007, 09:59:27 PM
Hey look I'm posting in this thread posting lots of emoticons wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee zip zop zoobity bop

Trying to build up that post count, huh?
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: tehjaybo on April 21, 2007, 10:03:27 PM: No, just being pretty bored. Bloodwake is over at the other table being all angry on the internets. I really don't come here too much unless someone tells me something interesting is happening. I'm usually pretty good trolling my realm forums and my friends' forum. I've never really been much for this kind of conversation, you know, the kind with actual topics and stuff.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Bloodwake on April 21, 2007, 10:05:23 PM: Eh, whatever dude.

From the trailer alone dude, I don't see how anyone could find the movie to be boring, and the books do have a lot of expertise behind them, at least in how well they are written. Believe me, out of all the other books that are unbelievably popular (the Da Vinci Code was a horribly written and overrated book IMO), J.K. Rowling is clearly the best. I would rather read Harry Potter than read through another Clancy novel.

Again, give me another fantasy book series. I can't really catch on to anything Brooks, Goodkind, or Piers Anthony stuff. Redwall is very, very good IMO, Jacques is a damn good writer, but Rowling is just as good. The ideas aren't totally original, but not much in fantasy is.
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Post by: tehjaybo on April 21, 2007, 10:06:00 PM: Yeah dude.

PS: for my thoughts on this thread refer to my signature.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 10:21:50 PM: Wait, I know why Willco doesn't like the Potter flicks. . .because David Tennant is in the fourth movie, and Willco HATES good genre TV.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Bloodwake on April 21, 2007, 10:23:37 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 10:21:50 PM
Wait, I know why Willco doesn't like the Potter flicks. . .because David Tennant is in the fourth movie, and Willco HATES good genre TV.

:lol

Seriously, if there's links to these online, gimme them. I'm really interested in this show.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 10:32:14 PM: No one said the Potter movies were awesome. The first two are quite meh, but certainly not horrible.

In terms of the movies:
-Sorcerer's Stone: 6.5/10
-Chamber of Secrets: 6.5/10
-Prizoner of Azkaban: 9/10
-Goblet of Fire: 7.5/10

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Unforgiven: 6/10
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 10:33:53 PM: You're underrating Chamber. It is a full grade better than the first movie, and it is the only movie in the series that I prefer to the book.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 21, 2007, 10:36:53 PM: Cmon, who wouldn't want this pounding them in the ass. If you don't want it you're probably a cigarillo.

(http://www.tvpredictions.com/kristenbell.jpg)
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Bloodwake on April 21, 2007, 10:37:07 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 10:32:14 PM
No one said the Potter movies were awesome. The first two are quite meh, but certainly not horrible.

In terms of the movies:
-Sorcerer's Stone: 6.5/10
-Chamber of Secrets: 6.5/10
-Prizoner of Azkaban: 9/10
-Goblet of Fire: 7.5/10

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Unforgiven: 6/10
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Sorcerer's Stone: 5/10
Chamber of Secrets: 5.5/10
Prisoner of Azkaban: 8/10
Goblet of Fire 7/10

Unforgiven 9/10
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 10:38:18 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 10:33:53 PM
You're underrating Chamber. It is a full grade better than the first movie, and it is the only movie in the series that I prefer to the book.

I haven't seen it in years so I honestly don't remember. Saw it at the theater, and then on VHS once it came out. Damn when was that lol
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Bloodwake on April 21, 2007, 10:40:56 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: TVC 15 on April 21, 2007, 10:33:53 PM
You're underrating Chamber. It is a full grade better than the first movie, and it is the only movie in the series that I prefer to the book.

I haven't seen it in years so I honestly don't remember. Saw it at the theater, and then on VHS once it came out. Damn when was that lol

I was so disappointed with the first film that I waited to see the second film on DVD....

like after it was out for a year.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 10:42:05 PM: Prisoner was awesome. I'd give it a 10 depending on my mood
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2007, 10:43:23 PM: yeah, the first movie is really forgettable. chamber has kenneth branagh, which was a *great* casting choice for lockhart, and since the second book is completely execrable, it goes without saying that chamber of secrets the movie blows the book version out of the water.
Title: Re: I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy
Post by: Bloodwake on April 21, 2007, 10:47:21 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2007, 10:42:05 PM
Prisoner was awesome. I'd give it a 10 depending on my mood

Prisoner gave me faith in the films again, while making me really hyped about Children of Men.