I am rather disappointed that Bloodwake is such a Harry Potter fanboy

[TVC15]

Also, at least the Potter movies are competently done.

Not really.  One is - Prisoner of Azkaban.  The rest look like they were directed by a robot.

And they still managed to come out better than the Spider-Man movies.

The first 3 movies are all pretty decent.  The fourth one is the only one I found serious fault with.

[The Fake Shemp]

The first 3 movies are all pretty decent.

Again, not really.  The first two are awful.  The third one is decent, because it's relatively coherent.  If you could stay awake through the first two Potter movies, but were so bored by Lord of the Rings that you did not even watch Return of the King - something is wrong with you!

The fourth one is the only one I found serious fault with.

That one was not only awful, but the source material was so ripe for a good popcorn movie that I want to punch whomever wrote that in the ballsac.

[CajoleJuice]

It wasn't desperation; she was hot and she had a great knack for cinema.  She had awesome taste in film, I enjoyed talking about movies with her and she was nice to look at.  You're telling me you wouldn't spend roughly a few days to breeze through some fantasy novels if you had the chance to elevate things with a girl like that?  You lie!

I'd find another way to elevate. Or something.

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I'd fuck it up.

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[Ichirou]

People, this thread is for trolling Harry Potter.  If you want to troll Spidey, there's a perfectly good thread about Spider-Man 2.1 on the first page.

[CajoleJuice]

Something really weird just happened with that last post I made. wtf

[The Fake Shemp]

Occult magick.

[bud]

the only thing that really bothered my about spider-man 2 was campbell's cameo.

[TVC15]

Awww, look, Willco can't handle that the Potter flicks are better than the Shitter-Man movies.

The first three movies are all well done.  The first movie does a good job at the reveal and the effects are really top notch.  When you first watch it, it was really cool to go down the rabbit whole of the wizarding world.  The movie conveyed the world very well.  It is, unfortunately, a little boring.  The second movie picks up the slack, and since they didn't have to focus as much on getting the world right (they showed they could with the first movie), the areas that needed work were improved.  The story was told well and the pacing was brisk.  I prefer the second movie to the second book, actually.

The third movie, well, needs no defense.

[The Fake Shemp]

Not really, it's just that you're trolling me and I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago (you like Uwe Boll!), but I hate it when a legitimately awesome topic degenerate into actual debate (Ichirou/bud v. you).  The trolling is only funny when it's funny, like with Drinky.  If you want to seriously argue it, you can argue with Ichirou on it in the Spidey thread.

The first three movies are all well done.  The first movie does a good job at the reveal and the effects are really top notch.  When you first watch it, it was really cool to go down the rabbit whole of the wizarding world.  The movie conveyed the world very well.  It is, unfortunately, a little boring.  The second movie picks up the slack, and since they didn't have to focus as much on getting the world right (they showed they could with the first movie), the areas that needed work were improved.  The story was told well and the pacing was brisk.  I prefer the second movie to the second book, actually.

The two movies are awful.  Again, explain how you think they're well done and not boring compared to Lord of the Rings - which is in the same genre of film.

[TVC15]

Willco, that is some of the worst deflection I've ever seen:  Take it elsewhere because no real discussion is allowed here?

The two movies are awful.  Again, explain how you think they're well done and not boring compared to Lord of the Rings - which is in the same genre of film.

The first hour or so of the first movie is good stuff and very interesting.  It loses the score once the big reveal portions of the movie are done, though.  It gets a little boring.

The second movie has the stuff done right from the first movie along with brisker pacing and more of a focus on the actual story than on just the setting. 

I'm not saying they are great movies, but to say they are "awful" is ridiculous.  They are big shiny movies, not high art. 

[Candyflip]

Hah. I liked Lord of the Rings, too. Even the multiple endings of ROTK. I guess I'm a sucker for boring movies.

[Cheebs]

I cant handle the first two movies now. Not only because they are weak but it's just to WEIRD to see those actors at like 10-11 now.

[The Fake Shemp]

Willco, that is some of the worst deflection I've ever seen:  Take it elsewhere because no real discussion is allowed here?

You don't want to really discuss it, you just want to troll me!  And instead of discussing the films merits in its actual genre, like a good Lord of the Rings troll would've done, I knew someone was going to respond seriously to you and it'd become a Spidey bitch thread.  Ichirou just proved my point, so have at him.

Instead of trolling the same line, which is awfully boring, how about not showcasing some of the worst deflection I've seen in where you praise the first two Potter films, but won't even see Return of the King?

[bud]

what the hell is going on here.

tvc hates the spidey movies, hates lotr and won't even see the last one and likes uwe boll

[TVC15]

See my updated post.  

For all I know, Return of the King might be the greatest movie ever, but I'll never see it because The Two Towers was so incredibly boring that I fell asleep during multiple watch attempts.  I can't see the third without seeing the second.  I kinda dig the first movie, though.

Concerning Uwe, he makes entertaining awful movies.  House of the Dead and Bloodrayne are both unintentionally hilarious.  Alone in the Dark isn't in so bad it's good territory despite having that hilariously awesome trailer.

[The Fake Shemp]

I'll take Helm's Deep over Harry Potter's first two adventures.

First, he is portrayed in films as a slacker and a jerk, but popular, so he gets away with everything.  What the fuck, who wants to root for a character like that?  He never does his homework, doesn't know how to do magic, but because his parents died, everything is handed to him on a silver platter - including the storyline.

He has no real threat, because Voldemort is not a real villain yet and the film moves at a tedious pace.  His middle school antics are only hilarious if you're in that grade level.

If you take high excitement like that over something like Helm's Deep, then I am boggled!

[Van Cruncheon]

we're discussing popcorn movies, mister film student. spider-man 2 and the two towers DRAG (except helm's deep -- that is indeed FUCKING AWESOME). that is a cardinal fucking sin for popcorn flicks. the columbus potter movies may be shallow pap, but at least you're never bored watching tobey macguire hamfistedly wrestle with personal demons. thank GOD.

[TVC15]

I think I fell asleep before Helm's Deep.  IIRC I usually dozed an hour to an hour and a half in.

And him getting everything on a silver platter is important to the story.  He's gone his whole life being very famous in this world that he never even knew existed.  It's totally a convention to further the whole going down the rabbit hole story of the first flick/book, but it works out.  

[The Fake Shemp]

we're discussing popcorn movies, mister film student. spider-man 2 and the two towers DRAG (except helm's deep -- that is indeed FUCKING AWESOME). that is a cardinal fucking sin for popcorn flicks. the columbus potter movies may be shallow pap, but at least you're never bored watching tobey macguire hamfistedly wrestle with personal demons. thank GOD.

I beg to differ, the Potter films might be popcorn films, but that wasn't a legitimate criticism - it was a troll and you know it.  Don't play cute.  Furthermore, the Columbus-helmed films are so boring that you could've asked me to watch you cornhole Tobey Maguire and I would've said YES to get out of the theatre.

And him getting everything on a silver platter is important to the story.

Did you read the books?!  Harry's life was much improved, but he was humble and not some idiotic, popular jerk like he's portrayed in the films.  He actually learned things and showcased skills in the books - he bumbles out of death in the films.

[Ichirou]

Daniel Radcliffe is a terrible actor.

[TVC15]

we're discussing popcorn movies, mister film student. spider-man 2 and the two towers DRAG (except helm's deep -- that is indeed FUCKING AWESOME). that is a cardinal fucking sin for popcorn flicks. the columbus potter movies may be shallow pap, but at least you're never bored watching tobey macguire hamfistedly wrestle with personal demons. thank GOD.

I beg to differ, the Potter films might be popcorn films, but that wasn't a legitimate criticism - it was a troll and you know it.  Don't play cute.  Furthermore, the Columbus-helmed films are so boring that you could've asked me to watch you cornhole Tobey Maguire and I would've said YES to get out of the theatre.

And him getting everything on a silver platter is important to the story.

Did you read the books?!  Harry's life was much improved, but he was humble and not some idiotic, popular jerk like he's portrayed in the films.  He actually learned things and showcased skills in the books - he bumbles out of death in the films.

I really think you're nit picking here.  Daniel's acting aside, I don't think there's that big of a difference between Harry in the books and Harry in the movies.

[The Fake Shemp]

I really think you're nit picking here.  Daniel's acting aside, I don't think there's that big of a difference between Harry in the books and Harry in the movies.

 

Okay, you got me.  You had me going.  That was a good one.

[TVC15]

I really think you're nit picking here.  Daniel's acting aside, I don't think there's that big of a difference between Harry in the books and Harry in the movies.

 

Okay, you got me.  You had me going.  That was a good one.

I've read all the books several times.  I never noticed any glaring differences between Harry in the movies and in the books. 

[The Fake Shemp]

I know you're joking - you're not going to get me with that.  I'll let you try and con someone else for a change!

[Phoenix Dark]

The thing that annoys me about this thread is this sense that the books should be bashed because some people consider them classics. No one considers them classic literature. They're great fantasy books, period. Are they the best? Of course not. Why people continue trying to compare them to better fantasy books in order to discredit JK is astounding. Grown men trying to make little boys and girls cry. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

I love the Potter books. Love. And I'm not ashamed to admit that. I've read Tolkien, Lewis, Dahl, etc, and I love their work too. But while I do indeed think say Tolkien's work is more "impressive", Rowling's work has captured my heart and imagination far more. I can't honestly say I've ever read a book where I felt as connected to the characters as I do with Harry Potter. It's hard to explain, but the books really remind me of being younger and lonely - the books always cheered me up. Yeah, I said it.

There was a time when I hated Harry Potter. Not because I didn't like the books; I had never read them. I hated them because at the time I was your typical brainwashed asshole Christian-type. The books promoted witchcraft and taught people how to do magic as far as I was concerned. A friend of mine was really into the first couple books and would always try to get me to read them, but I refused. Finally I made him a deal: if he read The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe (I'm sure you guys know why I would suggest such a book at the time), I would read the Sorcerer's Stone.

So we made the deal, and I went home with his Potter book and started reading. And reading. And reading. I literally couldn't put it down. When I did put it down, I couldn't help thinking about it. For me it opened up a new world to me. After I finished I immediately begged my parents to help me buy the two books. The funny thing is that we bought them the day before we went off to some big bible conference in Chicago. I took the books there and read them in public, and no one cared. I remember the founder of Grace Impact doing a sermon on Harry Potter and how harmless it is; lol I remember him comparing the names in the book to Klingon language, and like half the church was looking around like "wtf is a Klingon".

[MrAngryFace]

Who cares, Children of Men was nothing like the fucking books but no of YOUSE gave a shit and want to give it oscars for its crap screenplay/

[TVC15]

I know you're joking - you're not going to get me with that.  I'll let you try and con someone else for a change!

I don't even know what this means.  There's nothing there to get you with.  I'm just stating that I know the characters and I don't see any glaring discrepancy between their paper and film iterations.

[The Fake Shemp]

No one considers them classic literature.

Like most of your posts, that is an uneducated post and a flat out lie.

[Phoenix Dark]

No one considers them classic literature.

Like most of your posts, that is an uneducated post and a flat out lie.

What credible sources consider the Harry Potter books to be literature classics? Please don't say Steven King.

And even if some consider them to be classics, who fucking cares. The first three books were standard fantasy books with lots of introductury detective-esque shades. The fourth signaled a change in the books as they became considerably darker and complicated. The fifth and sixth books have really taken the series to a whole different level, and from what we know about book seven....it should continue this trend

[Mr. Gundam]

I took my nephew to see the first two movies because he wanted to see them, but I really had no interest in the series at that time. Flash forward to December 2003, when I started dating my wife. She was rereading Azkaban in anticipation of the film and began trying to get me to read the books. I refused for the longest time, on some stupid "I have to dislike this damn series" kick. We saw Azkaban in the theater when it came out, and I still had yet to read any of the books. About a week after we saw the movie, I started reading them, and got hooked. Goblet of Fire (the book) rules.

So, yeah, you could say that I read the books because of a girl, too.

*Roald Dahl is my favorite children's writer, by the way. I grew up reading/having my mom read them to me.

[Van Cruncheon]

I can't honestly say I've ever read a book where I felt as connected to the characters as I do with Harry Potter.

pd whiteness confirmed

[Phoenix Dark]

You people laugh about Dumbledore's death like it's a joke, but when he died I almost dropped the book. Like not as in "I'm never reading this again", but as it almost fell out my hands. I stopped reading for like a day, just in sadness. I absolutely loved HBP though.

"The Cave"

[Ichirou]

DUMBLEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE

[Van Cruncheon]

[The Fake Shemp]

 

Phoenix Dark is a joke character.  When Cheebs finds him, it's going to be a 50-year-old white guy named Jerry.  It's got to be.

[Phoenix Dark]

Nah, my name is George

[Mr. Gundam]

Phoenix Dark is a joke character.  When Cheebs finds him, it's going to be a 50-year-old white guy named Jerry.  It's got to be.

Eh, I know people in real life that are THAT into the Potter books.

[Van Cruncheon]

whaddaya mean, when cheebs finds him? he'll find cheebs first, and then cheebs will find himself in pd's refrigerator minus his limbs and genitalia.

[The Fake Shemp]

whaddaya mean, when cheebs finds him? he'll find cheebs first, and then cheebs will find himself in pd's refrigerator minus his limbs and genitalia.

 

DUMBLEDORE DIED, PHOENIX DARK CRIED

[Bloodwake]

Yep, I'm such a fanboy because I defended the series for LEGITIMATE REASONS.

Proving once again if I respond with good reasons Willco cries and calls me a fanboy.

Honestly, the movies weren't holy shit awesome cinema, but three was great and four was decent, and five, from the LOW QUALITY TRAILER THAT LEAKED, looked interesting.

I wish I didnt' say anything now. Willco trolls Harry Potter because he found a fucking japanese low quality bootleg trailer of the fifth movie boring. Jesus Christ, that's distinguished mentally-challenged by itself.

[The Fake Shemp]

You are a fanboy, though!  You said it yourself.  You didn't really defend anything, as much as get upset that I called the books light, entertaining fare, which is what everyone with half a brain has already said in this thread.  The movies are awful, though.

I just find it disappointing that you're a fan, because I liked you so much up until this point.  I mean, with Phoenix Dark, it's just another button on his shirt of social hilarity.

[The Fake Shemp]

I didn't troll anything.  The film looks boring.  The bootleg trailer was pretty clear and if three of the four previous movies are any indication, it'll be another snoozefest.  Series is boring, dude.

[tehjaybo]

Hey look I'm posting in this thread posting lots of emoticons wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee zip zop zoobity bop
  :spiderman :zelda :bowser :sonic :rapetime :stfu :elf :santocry :sp0rsk1 :tbslol :hehe :nuhuh :kylielaff

[Ichirou]

Hey look I'm posting in this thread posting lots of emoticons wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee zip zop zoobity bop

Trying to build up that post count, huh?

[tehjaybo]

No, just being pretty bored.  Bloodwake is over at the other table being all angry on the internets.  I really don't come here too much unless someone tells me something interesting is happening.  I'm usually pretty good trolling my realm forums and my friends' forum.  I've never really been much for this kind of conversation, you know, the kind with actual topics and stuff.

[Bloodwake]

Eh, whatever dude.

From the trailer alone dude, I don't see how anyone could find the movie to be boring, and the books do have a lot of expertise behind them, at least in how well they are written. Believe me, out of all the other books that are unbelievably popular (the Da Vinci Code was a horribly written and overrated book IMO), J.K. Rowling is clearly the best. I would rather read Harry Potter than read through another Clancy novel.

Again, give me another fantasy book series. I can't really catch on to anything Brooks, Goodkind, or Piers Anthony stuff. Redwall is very, very good IMO, Jacques is a damn good writer, but Rowling is just as good. The ideas aren't totally original, but not much in fantasy is.

[tehjaybo]

Yeah dude.

PS: for my thoughts on this thread refer to my signature.

[TVC15]

Wait, I know why Willco doesn't like the Potter flicks. . .because David Tennant is in the fourth movie, and Willco HATES good genre TV.

[Bloodwake]

Wait, I know why Willco doesn't like the Potter flicks. . .because David Tennant is in the fourth movie, and Willco HATES good genre TV.

 

Seriously, if there's links to these online, gimme them. I'm really interested in this show.

[Phoenix Dark]

No one said the Potter movies were awesome. The first two are quite meh, but certainly not horrible.

In terms of the movies:
-Sorcerer's Stone: 6.5/10
-Chamber of Secrets: 6.5/10
-Prizoner of Azkaban: 9/10
-Goblet of Fire: 7.5/10

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Unforgiven: 6/10

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[TVC15]

You're underrating Chamber.  It is a full grade better than the first movie, and it is the only movie in the series that I prefer to the book.

[TVC15]

Cmon, who wouldn't want this pounding them in the ass.  If you don't want it you're probably a cigarillo.

[Bloodwake]

No one said the Potter movies were awesome. The first two are quite meh, but certainly not horrible.

In terms of the movies:
-Sorcerer's Stone: 6.5/10
-Chamber of Secrets: 6.5/10
-Prizoner of Azkaban: 9/10
-Goblet of Fire: 7.5/10

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Unforgiven: 6/10

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Sorcerer's Stone: 5/10
Chamber of Secrets: 5.5/10
Prisoner of Azkaban: 8/10
Goblet of Fire 7/10

Unforgiven 9/10

[Phoenix Dark]

You're underrating Chamber.  It is a full grade better than the first movie, and it is the only movie in the series that I prefer to the book.

I haven't seen it in years so I honestly don't remember. Saw it at the theater, and then on VHS once it came out. Damn when was that lol

[Bloodwake]

You're underrating Chamber.  It is a full grade better than the first movie, and it is the only movie in the series that I prefer to the book.

I haven't seen it in years so I honestly don't remember. Saw it at the theater, and then on VHS once it came out. Damn when was that lol

I was so disappointed with the first film that I waited to see the second film on DVD....

like after it was out for a year.

[Phoenix Dark]

Prisoner was awesome. I'd give it a 10 depending on my mood

[Van Cruncheon]

yeah, the first movie is really forgettable. chamber has kenneth branagh, which was a *great* casting choice for lockhart, and since the second book is completely execrable, it goes without saying that chamber of secrets the movie blows the book version out of the water.

[Bloodwake]

Prisoner was awesome. I'd give it a 10 depending on my mood

Prisoner gave me faith in the films again, while making me really hyped about Children of Men.