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Superhero action goodness from those directors what had their junk cut off so they could wear dresses more comfortably.
Best superhero movie ever? Certainly better than those crappy Spider-hyphen-Man flicks!
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Oh man...I fear what Willco is going to do to you. :o
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Getting the BB one with the 4 posters and Mask.
I never buy DVD's anymore but fuck I loved this movie.
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YOU CANNOT TROLL THE ADMIN NEW POLICY!
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Dumb policy, I protest.
Being able to Troll Admins is what makes this not a lame forum that bans you for it. Admins and Mods should be able to defend themselves!
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YOU CANNOT TROLL THE ADMIN NEW POLICY!
The hell would anyone want to troll you, Will. Gawd, it's like we don't have anything better to do! ::)
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Fine, go ahead and troll, but you'll rue the day you insulted Spider-Man! Rue!
Rue!
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Fine, go ahead and troll, but you'll rue the day you insulted Spider-Man! Rue!
Rue!
Pussy. :-*
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Rue!
mmmm, rue mclanahan
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i haven't seen it but i'm getting the DVD tomorrow. ;D
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I loved the movie, and I seriously can't wait until the studio gets off its dead ass and makes The Watchmen.
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Will rent DVD now, buy HD DVD later.
I haven't seen V, but I know for a fact it's certainly not better than Spider-Man or Spider-Man 2!
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I can't wait. This is my favorite movie of 2006, so far...
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You need a superhero in the movie in order for it to be a superhero movie.
V is a terrorist, not a superhero. If he is a superhero then William Wallace is a superhero and Braveheart wins so Vendetta still loses.
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Great movie! Not a superhero flick, but a very good comicbook flick indeed!
I want to cave and buy the one that comes with the mask so I can do some sweet Halloween stuff with it.
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As resident Moore Whore (TM), I'm boycotting this dvd release!
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Great movie! Not a superhero flick, but a very good comicbook flick indeed!
I want to cave and buy the one that comes with the mask so I can do some sweet Halloween stuff with it.
Too bad the mask is like the size of your hand. Unless your hand is bigger than your face (tard), you're quite fucked.
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I now have V for Vendetta Wal-Mart special edition.
Which is pretty much the Best Buy one without the mask, I do believe.
FUCK YEAH.
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I now have V for Vendetta Wal-Mart special edition.
Which is pretty much the Best Buy one without the mask, I do believe.
FUCK YEAH.
OMG OMG OMG *hyperventilates*
Seriously, go watch the special features and report back. I'm stuck between the 1-Disc and the 2-Disc :(
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OMG OMG OMG *hyperventilates*
Seriously, go watch the special features and report back. I'm stuck between the 1-Disc and the 2-Disc :(
The Wal-Mart one has:
Disc One
-Freedom! Forever!: Making V for Vendetta
Disc Two
-Designing the Near Future (probably some sort of conceptual art documentary)
-Remember, Remember: Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot
-England Prevails: V for Vendetta and the New Wave in Comics
-Cat Power Montage
-Theatrical Trailer
This is according to the back of the box.
I will watch the film and the special features and report back.
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Oh yeah, here's the pic of the box:
(http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/01/25/69/82/0001256982379_500X500.jpg)
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Well, I think the two disc is worth picking up.. mostly because it's only five dollars more if you get it at Wal-Mart.
This movie is fucking awesome. The entire Evey prison sequence is brilliant, and makes the movies worth picking up on DVD.
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Saw it in theatres and loved it.
Picked up the 2 disc set yesterday. Broken street dates FTW! Not the best movie of the year, but DEFINATELY the best comic book movie of the year. Shits all over Supes. Will be the best comic book flick until Sin City 2.
Actually, the Evey prison sequence is the best part of the film. Which is both a testament to the awesomeness of the scene, but also a testament to how they dropped the ball in some other places. Also, a bald Portman is still a hot Portman.
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Any good places to pick this up for cheap? (I haven't seen it yet) V for value :)
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I'm thinking of picking this up today, but its TOO DAMN HOT to go outside :(
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V for Vendetta was a really fun film. Not perfect, by any means, but accurate enough to the source material and entertaining enough to hold up by its own. That said, I have a sinking feeling that we'll see an Extended Edition for this soon enough, or a director's cut. Might be wiser just to rent at this point.
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Is this really a good movie? I'm getting it just to see Natilie Portman's crotch shot.
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Is this really a good movie? I'm getting it just to see Natilie Portman's crotch shot.
You'll be thoroughly disappointed :-\
(unless you like good movies ;))
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yup, still rocks
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Great movie, kinda went over the top at the end, but great concepts and solid execution. I was not expecting a good movie at all, I came in expecting your typical overhyped comic-based flick turned cinematic debacle (like Hellboy) but NO! It WAS interesting.
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Hellboy fucking rocks, back off.
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Just got done watching the movie. I'd give a review, but my fucking face was blown all over the family room after watching this movie.
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Sell me on this FILM I never saw it... it looked like a female version of the Phantom of the Opera from the posters
Whats good?
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I really didn't think it was that great when I saw it in theaters, except for the awesome ownage at the end.
Maybe because of the friends I saw it with. One friend just kept laughing at the mask and kept saying, "What the fuck is going on? This sucks."
I say the movie would be more entertaining if he wore the BK mask the entire movie.
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I really didn't think it was that great when I saw it in theaters, except for the awesome ownage at the end.
Maybe because of the friends I saw it with. One friend just kept laughing at the mask and kept saying, "What the fuck is going on? This sucks."
I say the movie would be more entertaining if he wore the BK mask the entire movie.
was it better than DIE HARD WAV?
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was it better than DIE HARD WAV?
What kind of a question is that? GTFO
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was it better than DIE HARD WAV?
What kind of a question is that? GTFO
what u sayin? was it better?
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I almost carried a Die Hard With a Vengeance thread by myself, and I just said I didn't think V for Vendetta was that great. Figure it out.
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I almost carried a Die Hard With a Vengeance thread by myself, and I just said I didn't think V for Vendetta was that great. Figure it out.
shit I thought you were lonely, thats why I posted in that thread, I did not know you had real love for DHWAV
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shit I thought you were lonely, thats why I posted in that thread, I did not know you had real love for DHWAV
Well, both really. :-\
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Well, both really. :-\
Mah bad... I will netflix Die Hard WAV this weekend ;)
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You've never seen it? :o
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You've never seen it? :o
sure I have more than 4 times :-\
I love the Die Hard series man, Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker! is as good as I'll be Back.
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Well I watched the movie last night around 11pm; it went off around 1:30 or so lol. I didn't realize it was that long.
First off, I cannot stress enough how much I wanted to hate this movie. Everything I had read about the movie when it first came out (and started controversy) screamed over rated comic movie. But, there was more to this feeling. The movie was embraced by the far left and shunned by the right for obvious reasons. Like Munich, critics claimed the movie glorified terrorism by putting a human face on it. Is terrorism ever right? Well, I suppose it can be. I'm sure that during the 1770's George Washington, Paul Revere, and Thomas Jefferson were also considered to be "terrorists" by the British government. But there is a difference between our herelded freedom fighters and, say, Bin Laden and his kind. Washington didn't kill or torture innocent people to make a point. And that's where V comes in...
Despite my preconceived notions, I must say that this is an amazing movie. It comes on rather annoying - when V began spurting out big words I started to have visions of Matrix Reloaded - but once the movie gets going it doesn't stop. I was most impressed with the visuals of the movie. From the political flags to V's outfit to the dead, 1984-esque tone of Lone, everything looked great. The acting wasn't bad, although Portman's delivery seemed off in many instances.
My biggest problem with the movie was the preachy moments. They seemed far too generic and cliche. Someone goes into a rant about the evils of society, cue dramatic music, etc. But overall this is a great movie that opens up interesting debate and discussion.
The story of the movie was quite amazing, and it's very clear why this movie stirred up so much attention. Throughout the movie I was constantly reminded of current events, as well as some of the conspiracy theories that have arisen to explain them. The 911 conspiracy "inside job" crowd pisses me off to no end, and I can see why they gravitated toward this movie. A totalitarian regime that rules the masses by manufacturing fear and propagating it in the media. A regime that killed thousands of its own people and blamed it on terrorists in order to win election. Sound familiar?
V combats this regime through practices that we would call terrorism. The destruction of federal property for instance. But is this an act of terrorism in line with Bin Laden, who also has a knack for knocking down buildings, or the freedom fighters of the American Revolution? In the movie, it seemed like V never killed innocent people; blowing up Old Ben at midnight when no one was there seems barbaric, but innocent blood wasn't spilled; or was it? As someone who never read the graphic novel, I cannot properly answer this. Did V kill innocent people in his pursuit to fight for his ideas? And if so, if he did kill hundreds of janitors or security guards with this act, does that put him closer to Bin Laden or Washington? It would seem to slant him towards Bin Laden in my opinion.
Also, was V's...action toward Evy (I'm trying not to spoil anything) justified? Was it right for him to force her into such a situation just to make a point and ensure she didn't rat him out? I'd love to get people's thoughts on that.
Overall this is a very good movie. Very few movies stir up emtion in me now of days, but this one did. I felt empowered, like I could change the world or something. Of course, today I'll be back to watching TV while drinking Gatorade, but I digress: perhaps I'll change the world later. ;)
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Any good places to pick this up for cheap? (I haven't seen it yet) V for value :)
Circuit City has it for $13.99 this week.
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Phoenix: be grateful, the graphic novel is far more preachy than the movie from what I understand. The script was created and re-worked to add a bit more entertainment for people like you who dont want a preach movie like JOHN Q where denzel chats about Evil HMOs with his hostages for 10 minutes out of nowhere.
The prison thing was awesome, and I love how they didnt ever take off V's mask, as it reinforced the fact that V did represent an idea until the very end.
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On the contrary, the graphic novel is far less preachy and night/day than the movie was. The movie is still excellent, but the grahpic novel is definitely where its at...
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Well the people who wrote the script apparently think otherwise haha. Going by the documentary on the dvds.
However the Day Night aspect and focus on V and Evey was there to make it easier for the audience to accept and be entertained.
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Well the people who wrote the script apparently think otherwise haha. Going by the documentary on the dvds.
However the Day Night aspect and focus on V and Evey was there to make it easier for the audience to accept and be entertained.
LOL BUT THE HERO IS A TERRORIST LOOPHOLE!!!!111
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! 1
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Evey said she'd do anything to be free from fear.
V gave her what she asked for.
She realized what he did was the only way to do it and that she was stronger for it. He knew there was a real likelihood that she'd hate him for it, but he did it because it was the right thing to do FOR HER.
As opposed to the rest of England, who turned their basic rights over to Sutler and the Norsefire Party in order to be "free from fear".
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Phoenix: be grateful, the graphic novel is far more preachy than the movie from what I understand. The script was created and re-worked to add a bit more entertainment for people like you who dont want a preach movie like JOHN Q where denzel chats about Evil HMOs with his hostages for 10 minutes out of nowhere.
The prison thing was awesome, and I love how they didnt ever take off V's mask, as it reinforced the fact that V did represent an idea until the very end.
Does anyone know if V kills innocent people in the graphic novel?
John Q. What an awesome movie, until it turned into a Democrat infomercial. A lot of stuff in Vendetta reminded me of the "911 IS AN INSIDE JOB LOLZ!" crowd I have to deal with on other boards. They kept on using some basic conspiracy theorist talking points.
-There am no coincidences! You fell on the ground? Bush must have cancelled funding to the gravity department!
-An evil man who hates freedom. Did I mention he's conservative har har?
There were many cool parts in the movie. I like where a charred up V raises his arms in the fire and yells. Roots would have been so much better if something like that happened in it.
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Evey said she'd do anything to be free from fear.
V gave her what she asked for.
She realized what he did was the only way to do it and that she was stronger for it. He knew there was a real likelihood that she'd hate him for it, but he did it because it was the right thing to do FOR HER.
But of course.
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Im not sure what youre laughing at shake. I suspect there some graphic novel allegiance at play and thats cool, but the movie is great, and not really that preachy.
Additionally, V serves an idea, not a set of ideals.
I dont think he contemplates the deaths he inflicts since he is so committed to AN idea.
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Any good places to pick this up for cheap? (I haven't seen it yet) V for value :)
Circuit City has it for $13.99 this week.
not a bad deal :o
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two disc version ftw, cover art rox
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I was illiciting a common moviegoer response :-[
Yes, the movie is great, and though it delivers its message a bit more blatantly than the graphic novel, its still a great story. Much better than most of the shit action movies we get (and WAAAAAY better than any other Alan Moore adaptation), thus why I gave it my movie of the year title ;)
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Another problem with the movie:
Remember the news guy who had that Daily Show wanna be show in the movie? If TV was as censored and controlled as was shown early in the movie, who the hell was that episode where he mocked Sutler aired?
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Another problem with the movie:
Remember the news guy who had that Daily Show wanna be show in the movie? If TV was as censored and controlled as was shown early in the movie, who the hell was that episode where he mocked Sutler aired?
The TV people were censoring themselves, and since the guy practically ran the station he was in control of what aired.
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I don't think there's any real evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, but what's so implausible about the IDEA that folks in government might choose to manufacture an opportunity for subversion if one didn't naturally arise?
And Bush *is* taking away our peripheral civil rights and hewing deeply into the system of checks and balances that prevent hegemony by the executive branch. You're turning your rights over to the Administration piecemeal because you're either too lazy, too cowardly, too apathetic, or too sold on a single issue (ZOMG EVIL GAYS!!) to care. What's wrong with commenting on that? The Wachowskis only suggested tertiary similarities; they didn't say LOL BUSH =SUTLER = HITLER.
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Another problem with the movie:
Remember the news guy who had that Daily Show wanna be show in the movie? If TV was as censored and controlled as was shown early in the movie, who the hell was that episode where he mocked Sutler aired?
The TV people were censoring themselves, and since the guy practically ran the station he was in control of what aired.
That still doesn't make much sense...
The government could know exactly what you were doing and saying if they wanted, yet they didn't censor TV shows? What..the?
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I don't think there's any real evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, but what's so implausible about it?
And Bush *is* taking away our peripheral civil rights and hewing deeply into the system of checks and balances that prevent hegemony by the executive branch. You're turning your rights over to the Administration piecemeal because you're either too lazy, too cowardly, too apathetic, or too sold on a single issue (ZOMG EVIL GAYS!!) to care. What's wrong with commenting on that? The Wachowskis only suggested tertiary similarities; they didn't say LOL BUSH =SUTLER = HITLER.
In relation to the graphic novel, its putting a blatant North American spin on an originally English story. That's why Alan Moore kept his name off of the film.
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The show was a LIVE VARIETY SHOW PROGRAM. The only folks who knew what was gonna air that night were Stephen Fry's character and the various show folks who probably sympathized with him, given that they'd had almost a whole YEAR of V primining he populace for rebellion.
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I don't think there's any real evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, but what's so implausible about it?
And Bush *is* taking away our peripheral civil rights and hewing deeply into the system of checks and balances that prevent hegemony by the executive branch. You're turning your rights over to the Administration piecemeal because you're either too lazy, too cowardly, too apathetic, or too sold on a single issue (ZOMG EVIL GAYS!!) to care. What's wrong with commenting on that? The Wachowskis only suggested tertiary similarities; they didn't say LOL BUSH =SUTLER = HITLER.
I'm not really commenting on the Wachowaski's political aims with the more; I'm more annoyed with the conspiracy theorists who gravitated toward the movie, as if it proves their point.
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That still doesn't make much sense...
The government could know exactly what you were doing and saying if they wanted, yet they didn't censor TV shows? What..the?
The TV people were in the government's pocket, so the governement didn't feel the need to force their censorship down anyone's throats. They always figured the TV people would be with them, thus the fuckup when the broadcaster had his anti-government episode aired.
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Shake, which means exactly what?
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The show was a LIVE VARIETY SHOW PROGRAM. The only folks who knew what was gonna air that night were Stephen Fry's character and the various show folks who probably sympathized with him, given that they'd had almost a whole YEAR of V primining he populace for rebellion.
How was it live if he was sitting right next to Evy on the couch?!
TIME PARADOX
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Yeah, and I hate Fight Club kids who misinterpret Fincher's movie as a cry for anarchism. Doesn't mean Fight Club is a bad movie, or that its fundamental message about the need for moderation in one's life and masculinity is any less valid.
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Shake, which means exactly what?
The government didn't feel the need to keep tabs on the TV station because they already had it in their minds that the station was "under their control". Thus, they didn't stop them from airing their own material, because after so long they figured all of the material would be pro-government anyway.
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all LIVE shows are filmed at least hours in advance. The point IS that there wasn't a real script, and that many of the folks at the TV station sympathised with and supported V.
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Yeah, and I hate Fight Club kids who misinterpret Fincher's movie as a cry for anarchism. Doesn't mean Fight Club is a bad movie, or that its fundamental message about the need for moderation in one's life and masculinity is any less valid.
Yup, exactly. Those kind of people piss me off. Or people who actually think they're like Neo fighting against the Matrix (IE conservatives). *shudder*
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Neo fighting the Matrix = conservatives? WTF?
More like the chosen one fighting against a made up world while machines suck his belly button :P
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I like all three matrix movies, I bought that ultimate collection. I dont think it has a political message at all tho. Im not insannnne
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I like all three matrix movies, I bought that ultimate collection. I dont think it has a political message at all tho. Im not insannnne
You like Reloaded? WTF? (I'm iffy on Revolutions, but at least it's a decent popcorn flick)
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Master Shake: The secret I have for reloaded is I start the movie with the scene where Neo sees the Oracle for the first time in the movie.
Removing the rave scene, pot bellied morpheus, and the jesus return to zion makes the movie good.
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???
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I never saw V. I enjoyed the first Matrix(but not WHOAMG BEST SCI-FI EVER!!!) but hated 2 & 3.
SHOULD I SEE V!?!?!?
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I never saw V. I enjoyed the first Matrix(but not WHOAMG BEST SCI-FI EVER!!!) but hated 2 & 3.
SHOULD I SEE V!?!?!?
Yes. Really, anyone with a pulse and an IQ larger than their shoe size should watch V.
MOVIE OF THE YEAR 2006 AM TOTAL
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Master Shake: The secret I have for reloaded is I start the movie with the scene where Neo sees the Oracle for the first time in the movie.
Removing the rave scene, pot bellied morpheus, and the jesus return to zion makes the movie good.
Well, that definitely would make the movie better, but it still leaves that dumbass car chase scene.
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What didnt you like about reloaded specifically, shake?
Aside from the rave, pot bellied morpheus, and the jesus neo return to zion prior to him seeing the oracle and meeting the many smiths the movie was a lot of fun.
There was that 'because I love you too damn much' line but that was no worse than trinity bringing him back with a kiss in the original.
What was wrong with the car chase scene specifically? It was one of the most technically impressive sequences of its time. The sword vs SUV was neat, the two semis crashing was cool, the agent vs ghost guys vs trinity/morpheus and the bike stuffwas cool.
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What didn't I like about Reloaded?
1) The idea that there needed to be a Matrix sequel
2) The Architect scene. The guy literally has a dictionary sprawled out on his lap, that was CGed out of the film.
3) The rave scene. Yawn.
4) The keymaker rescue scene: a dramatic death for a character that's been in the movie for three minutes? Yawn.
5) The Neo Vs. Smiths fight kind of dragged after the first few minutes, but at least it was somewhat entertaining.
Etc.
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What didnt you like about reloaded specifically, shake?
Aside from the rave, pot bellied morpheus, and the jesus neo return to zion prior to him seeing the oracle and meeting the many smiths the movie was a lot of fun.
There was that 'because I love you too damn much' line but that was no worse than trinity bringing him back with a kiss in the original.
What was wrong with the car chase scene specifically? It was one of the most technically impressive sequences of its time. The sword vs SUV was neat, the two semis crashing was cool, the agent vs ghost guys vs trinity/morpheus and the bike stuffwas cool.
The car chase scene symbolizes everything that was wrong with the two sequels imo. The first movie was paced very well. There weren't many over produced, over blown sequences. In Reloaded, everything is overblown. It's like they sat down and said "lets make this Matrix...TO THE EXTREME!" So the movie starts out with a motorcycle somehow starting a huge ass explosion.
Fight scenes are far too drawn out and over blown in the movie. I don't want to watch a 20 minute car chase. I don't want to see Neo beat up 100 clones for 5 minutes, then get his ass kicked for 5 minutes, and then have him fly away as if he's fucking Superman.
All style and no substance, like a Mac.
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Im used to defending reloaded so im not taking this personally or anything.
1. This was conceived as a trilogy before the first Matrix came out, the idea that a sequel was to come was valid. subjective and a little off base.
2. Yet V using all the V words was ok? I liked the V scene, but I also liked the Architect scene since it added clear contrast between neo the human and a machine. It also spoke of the way the architect thought compared to say, the orcacle.
3. Yeah, rave scene was uncomfortable.
4. Which character? Key maker doesnt die till the end? His death was needed to underline the idea that he was created for that task alone, which suggested early on that the entire effort neo was undertaking was another level of control.
5. Neo vs Smith fight scenes rocked. Neo vs Seraph was somewhat lame and amounted to a dance.
As for the all style no substance comment, I think Reloaded has the most plot development and character development of the three movies.
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1) I know it was supposed to be a trilogy, but after seeing Reloaded I just didn't agree with the idea.
2) V using all of the V words is supposed to come off as a little extreme and forced sophistication, which actually worked to underline his character. In contrast, the Reloaded scene only made me really, really hate the Architect and want to put a slug in my skull.
3) LOL
4) Key maker was given a far more dramatic death than he deserved, and just it seem as if the film was going for one of those "smurai cuts a dude in half after rescheething his sword" moments. Yawn.
5) That fight, as PD said, was all style and no substance.
And another thing, the Neo using his powers in the "real" world/cliffhanger ending seemed like it was being played just for shock value. Double yawn.
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2.) Well you arent supposed to like the Architect, I wouldnt be surpised if his language was meant to feel oppressive and restrictive in contrast the oracle being all laid back and free. I think there are reasons, but your reasons for not liking it, while appearing to be the desired result, are entirely subjective.
4.) The key makers death was given that level of importance for a reason. Through the whole movie it is suggested that all programs in the matrix are given a purpose. The death of the key maker underlines the idea that he was GIVEN a purpose by the machine world to provide a key to the source? That just screams another level of control. Its a theme that is woven through the entire movie.
6.) neo using his powers at the end was there to show his connection with the source. Having encountered it and leaving it, something that hadnt been done before, he was a changed BEING.
This shit wasnt written off the cuff to make bucks people, and I am under the impression that many people think it was because it was flashy an cost a lot of money, but if you watch it a few times with an open mind you can see how everything works together. The trilogy was complete essential. I also recommend watching the matrix documentaries in the ultimate collection.
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2.) Well you arent supposed to like the Architect, I wouldnt be surpised if his language was meant to feel oppressive and restrictive in contrast the oracle being all laid back and free. I think there are reasons, but your reasons for not liking it, while appearing to be the desired result, are entirely subjective.
True.
But then again, considering most critics/fans seem to agree with me, I like to think that there's at least some validity to my statements ;D
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Well im not arguing your opinion, I am arguing the intentions of the film.
Additionally I thought it was great in the third movie how that 'purpose' aspect of a programs lifecycled was views as oppressive to the programs and showed how many tried to escape this oppression by living in a prison created for humanity.
and in case you missed it cause of my edit:
4.) The key makers death was given that level of importance for a reason. Through the whole movie it is suggested that all programs in the matrix are given a purpose. The death of the key maker underlines the idea that he was GIVEN a purpose by the machine world to provide a key to the source? That just screams another level of control. Its a theme that is woven through the entire movie.
6.) neo using his powers at the end was there to show his connection with the source. Having encountered it and leaving it, something that hadnt been done before, he was a changed BEING.
This shit wasnt written off the cuff to make bucks people, and I am under the impression that many people think it was because it was flashy an cost a lot of money, but if you watch it a few times with an open mind you can see how everything works together. The trilogy was complete essential. I also recommend watching the matrix documentaries in the ultimate collection.
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>:( LEAVE ME ALONE!!!1
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COME ON! I CLEARLY KNOW A DISTURBING AMOUNT ABOUT THE MATRIX MOVIES LET US CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!
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How about we bask in the awesomeness of V for Vendetta? 8)
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I think you know more about V for Vendetta than I do, you can talk for a while...
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SO HOW BOUT THEM STICKY PAGES LOOL :-X
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My ass The Matrix (and most successful flicks that get turned into trilogies) was planned as a trilogy from the get-go. That's just the bullshit all filmmakers usually spin to try to make you believe that "no, we ARE NOT simply trying to milk the cash cow, we have REAL ARTISTIC VISION and planned this from the start! That fully explains why our first movie is TOTALLY different in tone and quality than the other two, LOLZ!"
The Matrix trilogy ranks just above the SW prequels in terms of biggest cinematic abortions of the past 25 years.
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Youre opinion is stupid.
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So is your grammar ;D
But, if by stupid you mean correct, then yes, it's totally asinine, Mr. IRateMoviesWithoutEvenSeeingThem.
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Just picked up the totally awesome 2-disc steelbook edition at Future Shop on the way home from work. Going to watch it for the first time tonight. ;D
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Ive seen both V and the Matrix movies at least twice.
Also, grammar attacks are the weakest form of internet tit for tat. Its a message board. Im not here to type a thesis.
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So grammar attacks are worse than "UR OPINION SUX BECUZ ITZ NOT MINE!"? Logic FTW
And I was referring to Oldboy BTW, which you "reviewed" at GAF, and then later admitted to never seeing, lol.
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are we TALKING about old boy? Is this thread called "HEY SOLO LETS TALK ABOUT OLD BOY"
I'll use my powers of admin to check the thread history too.
lol ftw btw
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Ah, the classic avoid the argument by putting me back on topic, eh? This thread is going places.
Well, on with the show. V rulz. For real, no sarcasm there. It will end up in my Top 10 for the year, no doubt. The Matrix sequels remain total bunk, however.
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NO! LETS TALK ABOUT OLD BOY
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I SEE WHAT U DID THERE
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So, how about that Oldboy?
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Is... that the BB mask? Tell me it isn't so :-[
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V for Vendetta was like American Beauty, plus knives, minus boobs.
That is not a compliment.
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Quick question:
Remember the part where that guy shows Evey all the illegal political stuff he had in his basement? There's a part where she looks at these black and white pics in the corner, and the camera quickly shoots away. What was that about?
I take it he was gay though, but I didn't see how the pics connected to what he said next.
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V for Vendetta was like American Beauty, plus knives, minus boobs.
That is not a compliment.
What? This is disheartening. I wanted to see it :(
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I liked American Beauty.
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Someone should make American Beauty with knives and boobs.
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V for Vendetta was like American Beauty, plus knives, minus boobs.
That is not a compliment.
What? This is disheartening. I wanted to see it :(
V is at least better than Spidey 1, about equal to Spidey 2, and probably just below Begins.
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I don't believe your lies, Solo!
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DA TROOF
I would say something like Begins > Sin City > Spidey 2 = V > Spidey 1
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It's better than Spiderman 1 and 2, but it's not fair to compare them. V is a very deep, complex movie based on a graphic novel. It's not a comic book movie to me.
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DA TROOF
I would say something like Begins > Sin City > Spidey 2 = V > Spidey 1
QFT
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Love the new title Shakester ;)
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:lol I didn't make it. Blame Willco.
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I don't want to make it sound like I hated it. It's not a SW prequel or anything like that. Mild spoilerish stuff follows:
But it did have a tendency to preach, there were stretches that really bored me, and while I got the V/Evee "free from fear" thing, it didn't feel believable or compelling. Having one character go through a really elaborate process to achieve a psychological breakthrough that he explains out loud just doesn't do it for me.
On the other hand, there was nice action and cinematography and acting and Stephen Fry.
Picking up on what Drinky said about the political side, I think the most interesting change from the original comic was the government conspiracy with the epidemic. In the comic, Britain turns to fascism after worldwide nuclear war. In the movie, there's a conspiracy to create a fake terrorist attack to seize power (I forget whether they kept the nuclear war in the film).
I think the implication is that viewers might have been more sympathetic to an authoritarian regime if it were a reaction to a real threat on that level. The fascist regime isn't bad because it's fascist, but because it's unnecessarily fascist.
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I love the movie for the character V. So hardcore.
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I love the movie for Natalie Portman in a little pink dress.....
and because it's awesome :hyper
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Shameless bump for VfV respect, I finally bought this today. $25 damage, but I got it with a nifty lenticular cover and the first part of the graphic novel mini-ized (uneeded, but appreciated anyway :P)...
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Shameless bump for VfV respect, I finally bought this today. $25 damage, but I got it with a nifty lenticular cover and the first part of the graphic novel mini-ized (uneeded, but appreciated anyway :P)...
Damn, I don't think I've ever spent that much on a single movie...
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Damn, I don't think I've ever spent that much on a single movie...
I've done worse. Criterions for almost $40 = :'(
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Damn, I don't think I've ever spent that much on a single movie...
I've done worse. Criterions for almost $40 = :'(
Yea, fuck that. I'm a bargain hunter, especially when it comes to DVDs. I wait for the 2 for $15, 3 for $20, etc. deals at Best Buy for a lot of DVDs.
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Same with me, but some Criterion movies are worth the price and most/all of them NEVER get marked down :-\
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Same with me, but some Criterion movies are worth the price and most/all of them NEVER get marked down :-\
Yea, it blows. :yuck
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:hurr "Ya t0taLLie"
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Shameless bump for VfV respect, I finally bought this today. $25 damage, but I got it with a nifty lenticular cover and the first part of the graphic novel mini-ized (uneeded, but appreciated anyway :P)...
Good taste my man. I'm impressed.
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Oh fuck, PD just told me I had good taste. I need to take a shower :-\
I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO RECOMMENDED IT TO YOU, SMALL STACK!!!! :P
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Oh shit, you're right :lol
I've seen it two more times since my first viewing. I'll buy it when the price goes down.
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I was gonna wait and buy it used at Hollywood Video, but I had the money in my pocket and the freebies hooked me. Damn you, Target Greatland!!!! >:(
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I'd like to give a big "FUCK YOU BITCHES" shoutout to all the Hollywood Video chains in America.
Fuckers have sold me FOUR used DVDs either
1) covered in syurp
2) literally cracked
3) smudged to death
4) with chocolate on them
And then they refuse to show you the DVD before you buy it. I bought all four at the same time, and haven't been back since
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Wha? That must be a ghetto'd out Hollywood Video. Mine always lets me take a peek at the used DVDs before I but them, and includes (free of charge) lifetime warranties on all of them :cookiem
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It's in Ann Arbor lol, the cream of the crop city of Michigan. San Fransisco of the north. I can't stand these distinguished mentally-challenged fellows :lol
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*closes eyes* "DON'T YOU JUST LOOOOOOOOOVE MY NEW HYBRID?!" :P
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Uppity conspiracy theorist smelly hair four eyed Bush hating Coke boycotting terrorists every one of them!
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Uppity conspiracy theorist smelly hair four eyed Bush hating Coke boycotting terrorists every one of them!
(http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/movies/v/v_for_vendetta/loder_piece/281x211.jpg)
WHO, ME?!
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The matrix sequels actually were utter crap. I have never heard more pretentious, meaningless drivel in all my years of going to see movies.
Reloaded, at least, had some cool fight scenes. Everything else from that movie (and all of the third) have been wiped from my memory with lots of hard work and marijuana.
Too bad, too, because the first Matrix was so fresh and so clean.
V is out-fucking-standing, though.
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Meh, I liked Revolutions' man-droids versus machines scenes more than any of the fights in Reloaded :-\
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If these conspiracy theorist assholes had half of V's intelligence, I wouldn't complain about them. But they don't. So we're treated to their never changing ideas, and "proof"
Step One: Make an asinine conspiracy theory
Bush killed Pope John Paul in his sleep. To make matters worse, his great grandfather sold the fuel to Japan that was used to propel their planes to Pearl Harbor!
Step Two: Get some C-movie "celebrity" to believe your theory, and then use him as proof
Tony Danza believes Bush killed the pope! It must be right!
Step Three: Get a barely qualified teacher from MIT to scientifically explain your theory
Mr. William Dubley, who is in charge of the Custodian Workers Association at fucking MIT says he believes...
Step Four: profit
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My parents wanted to move to Vermont. Fucking VERMONT. I'm glad I dodged THAT bullet :hyper
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If these conspiracy theorist assholes had half of V's intelligence, I wouldn't complain about them. But they don't. So we're treated to their never changing ideas, and "proof"
Step One: Make an asinine conspiracy theory
Bush killed Pope John Paul in his sleep. To make matters worse, his great grandfather sold the fuel to Japan that was used to propel their planes to Pearl Harbor!
Step Two: Get some C-movie "celebrity" to believe your theory, and then use him as proof
Tony Danza believes Bush killed the pope! It must be right!
Step Three: Get a barely qualified teacher from MIT to scientifically explain your theory
Mr. William Dubley, who is in charge of the Custodian Workers Association at fucking MIT says he believes...
Step Four: profit
You're kind of stupid, aren't you? Don't lie, I've sussed you out.
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If these conspiracy theorist assholes had half of V's intelligence, I wouldn't complain about them. But they don't. So we're treated to their never changing ideas, and "proof"
Step One: Make an asinine conspiracy theory
Bush killed Pope John Paul in his sleep. To make matters worse, his great grandfather sold the fuel to Japan that was used to propel their planes to Pearl Harbor!
Step Two: Get some C-movie "celebrity" to believe your theory, and then use him as proof
Tony Danza believes Bush killed the pope! It must be right!
Step Three: Get a barely qualified teacher from MIT to scientifically explain your theory
Mr. William Dubley, who is in charge of the Custodian Workers Association at fucking MIT says he believes...
Step Four: profit
You're kind of stupid, aren't you? Don't lie, I've sussed you out.
:lol
And how so? I've talked to enough conspiracy assholes to know their talking points, thank you very much. I hate to see them multiply. They're poisoning the left just like the religious assholes poisoned the right. And it makes me sad - being a liberal with a brain is rather lonely for me.
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And how so? I've talked to enough conspiracy assholes to know their talking points, thank you very much. I hate to see them multiply. They're poisoning the left just like the religious assholes poisoned the right. And it makes me sad - being a liberal with a brain is rather lonely for me.
How many high-ranking or influential Democrats buy into this stuff, compared with how much fealty the GOP owes the religious right? It's a pretty false equivalence at this point. Maybe several years from now it will be a serious issue, though I doubt it.
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I saw the film and rather enjoyed it. However, I totally feel Alan Moore's complaints are valid and the ending negates the whole point he was selling with his graphic novel. That said, this is a movie and if it works cinematically, then source material be damned. Peter Benchley knew this when they made Jaws, why can't Alan Moore accept this?
Hugo Weaving was on his game, so was Portman, but it was Stephen Rea and his performance as Inspector Finch that really sold the film (in my opinion). There's not really a weak link there. I think the Portman jail sequence and Finch recounting his "feelings" to a montage of current events are the most memorable, which makes me raise my eyebrow to the fact that the Wachowski Bros. felt they had to do the whole solidarity stand thing at the end.
This was my first listen to foriegn composer Dario Marianelli, and his score is pretty great. I'll definitely be keeping an eye out on his other scores in the near future.
At any rate, good flick. And someone give William Hurt more work, please.
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I saw the film and rather enjoyed it. However, I totally feel Alan Moore's complaints are valid and the ending negates the whole point he was selling with his graphic novel. That said, this is a movie and if it works cinematically, then source material be damned. Peter Benchley knew this when they made Jaws, why can't Alan Moore accept this?
Hugo Weaving was on his game, so was Portman, but it was Stephen Rea and his performance as Inspector Finch that really sold the film (in my opinion). There's not really a weak link there. I think the Portman jail sequence and Finch recounting his "feelings" to a montage of current events are the most memorable, which makes me raise my eyebrow to the fact that the Wachowski Bros. felt they had to do the whole solidarity stand thing at the end.
This was my first listen to foriegn composer Dario Marianelli, and his score is pretty great. I'll definitely be keeping an eye out on his other scores in the near future.
At any rate, good flick. And someone give William Hurt more work, please.
I agree totally. Although, could you shed light on Moore's complaints with the ending of the movie? I know he was upset about the movie, but I don't know why so to speak.
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Watched it today, thank you netflix for not fucking me over with a long wait time.
Excellent movie. I feel like watching it again.
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You mean John Hurt, Willco. From Alien and V For Vendetta. William Hurt is from Dark City and A History Of Violence.
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Sorry, I was tired and confused! BOTH NEED MORE WORK.
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And how so? I've talked to enough conspiracy assholes to know their talking points, thank you very much. I hate to see them multiply. They're poisoning the left just like the religious assholes poisoned the right. And it makes me sad - being a liberal with a brain is rather lonely for me.
How many high-ranking or influential Democrats buy into this stuff, compared with how much fealty the GOP owes the religious right? It's a pretty false equivalence at this point. Maybe several years from now it will be a serious issue, though I doubt it.
I'm not referencing high ranking democrats. I'm concerned about the base, which is rapidly shifting to the far left.
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Phoenix Dark, I really think you have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about. The folks who gravitate towards Randi Rhodes' messageboard are hadly an adequate sample of liberal thought; that's like assuming all videogamers are gay based on GAF's OT board.
Or worse, assuming conservatives are rapidly degenerating into slavering fascist jackboots based on the Free Republic forums. :o :o Effete conservative apologists like Christopher Hitchens would cry at the association!
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Good point. Sadly, it misses its mark.
There is no denying that the liberal base is rapidly moving to the far left. It's gaining far too much momentum, and it constantly supports poor candidates. Dean was the beginning of the end. The internet is breeding this movement, and I'm quite tired of it.
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ATTN PHEONIX DARK: Abandon Ship!!!
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I think you have absolutely no empirical evidence.