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Title: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 17, 2013, 01:30:05 AM
This game looks like it deserves its own fucking thread, because fuck you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_T2T_15qlk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neHLtcd0j1c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdcSaN5J8t4

*masturbates furiously*
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 17, 2013, 01:36:20 AM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=33133.0
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=38249.0
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 17, 2013, 01:40:57 AM
OLD THREADS ARE OLD

NEW THREAD IS NEW

YOU CAN'T FIGHT THIS LOGIC, DOG
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Damian79 on May 17, 2013, 02:06:20 AM
I played through the alpha(more like a demo).  It plays exactly like titan quest.  The are a couple of differences though.  If you are out of combat you will heal.  And potions are scarce and expensive.  So what you do is if you are getting hammered normally you just run away and heal unless you know you wont survive and have to use a potion.

It has some spiking at the moment for me i dunno if it is a steam client issue or not.  The summons seem ridiculous.  The hellhound anyway.
Title: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Verdigris Murder on May 17, 2013, 02:50:01 AM
I'm liking the new aggressively assertive cog, this sort of mindset wins wars and elections!
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 17, 2013, 11:18:02 AM
this pleases my loothole
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 17, 2013, 11:52:38 AM
Cant wait, hope its daycent
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 05, 2013, 05:30:52 PM
I bought it.
I'm playing it.
It's SO GOOD.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Rufus on November 05, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
Incidentally that's when it will be finished, too.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 05, 2013, 08:00:39 PM
OMG WTF I DON'T EVEN

BUYING
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 05, 2013, 08:21:52 PM
wait this is out

wat

will purchase in 24 months for no more than ten dollars

Early access beta right now, so you can the first act [about 8-12 hours of content].
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: etiolate on November 05, 2013, 09:24:23 PM
So have they gone for a sorta Colonial/Occult vibe with this?
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 05, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921278188643779538/82E9EC43C0C1A3AA62CDC86D0F412A6BBC819A8E/)

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921278188643775664/BBC8CE1D86C8EC50376DCC7360ABFE5EA3622754/)
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 05, 2013, 09:49:41 PM
SUCH LEWT
WOW
SO HACK
MUCH SLASH
2TITANQUEST4U
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: cool breeze on November 05, 2013, 09:55:32 PM
I'm in a weird position where I'd jump into early access, but I already "bought" the game through kickstarter and not at a level to access the beta  :-\
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 05, 2013, 10:09:45 PM
I'm in a weird position where I'd jump into early access, but I already "bought" the game through kickstarter and not at a level to access the beta  :-\

Well, I hope you learned your lesson about ever kickstarting anything.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 05, 2013, 11:53:58 PM
Game is the hot tits, and it's still early beta

Combat is better than PoE
Skillz for Demolitionist are better than DH skillz in D3 (nothing is gonna beat PoE's skill forest, tho)
Lewt is fuck hot

Grafx are such dark
Screen tears regularly tho, even on medium settings

9 boners out of 10
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 06, 2013, 12:07:08 AM
Music is nice, fits the setting really well

Yeah, I'm an idiot and didn't enable v-sync

:derp
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 06, 2013, 12:14:15 AM
I love the combat so much, it's got a nice weight to it and the blood splatter + ragdoll physics is just too good. Way better than PoE and at least on par with D3.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 06, 2013, 12:27:05 AM
The sad part is that I went into the video options, turned everything to medium (my pc is like 3 years old, and was only medium tier when I built it then, so it's way overdue to be upgraded) and changed the resolution but OH HOLY SHIT FORGOT TO ENABLE V-SYNC HUR HUR
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2013, 01:25:44 AM
How are the skills and customization? I was going to ask about combat, but it sounds like it's good.

mini rant: PoE's combat is pretty damn awesome once you get a good weapon
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 06, 2013, 01:32:40 AM
Did you ever play Titan Quest? It's basically that.  You get three skill points per level up to spend; you can put them into your general track, which as you do opens up access to new skillz, and dump points into individual skillz to incrementally increase them.

Eventually, you'll be able to multi-class and access two different skill trees.

There are currently 4 classes available:

Soldier- duh
Demolitionist- pew pew
Occultist- magic n shit
Ninja like dude- dude that does ninja like shit (rogue)
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 06, 2013, 01:34:42 AM
Also- the combat is legit better than PoE.  I've played plenty of PoE, D3, whatever.  This game is better than PoE and slightly not as good as D3, which is still the gold standard despite the whiners n haters.

Game still has limited respec, which is barbaric and stupid.  You can pay a mystic or whatever to respec, but as you do it gets more expensive.  LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2013, 02:06:30 AM
Not a big Titan Quest fan tbh. I judge ARPGs on how much time they suck out of me, which is why I still respect D3 even though I shit on it a lot; at the end of the day I put 100 hours into it. I've spent even more time in Path of Exile, which is undeniably better than just about any ARPG in some ways (customization, skills, trading).

Titan Quest tho...I played for a couple weeks and moved on. Then I came back later and tried the expansion and had the same reaction. Not bad, but it just didn't have the "hook" I need to sink into what is a very repetitive genre. D3 has killer combat/controls, PoE has infinite customization, D2 is D2, etc.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 06, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
With PoE, it felt like your character progressed really slowly. A small stat boost here, an upgraded attack there, but Grim Dawn gives you cool attacks right away and you get new attacks and special abilities fairly often. It does things I really like in a way that PoE didn't.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 06, 2013, 01:52:46 PM
Sounds great. I personally dont care for grindan that much so that's ideal for me. May cop.

And since your character is dual-class, you get all kinds of crazy min-max combinations.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2013, 02:12:10 PM
Personally I like slowly building a badass character. Your weapons/gear can ensure you're pretty good, but building up skills to an "oh shit!" moment is more appealing. I love getting to that point, be it lv10 or whenever, when I not only reap benefits but can imagine how much potential the character has. It's a good hook to keep grinding/leveling basically.

Obviously I enjoy instant gratification too, I just prefer the idea of starting out weak as fuck and building up to being a complete beast.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 06, 2013, 02:35:23 PM
I think I'll spec into an Occultist next in Grim Dawn. 

:noah ALL THE RANGED ATTACKS
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on November 06, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
I'm so torn.  I want this bad.  Been craving a Diablo loot game again and I love the TQ/GD art style.  But I really don't want to play an unfinished game.  I don't want to play a bit of it and then in 12 months play another bit of it and then 24 months later see all the bits I played have been re-balanced and I should've waited and played them after the game was complete.

BUT LOOT


/or I could just start playing PoE
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 06, 2013, 03:27:52 PM
Even Diablo III is getting stuff rebalanced two years later. Just play it now, get the sickest lewt you can, then play it some more later and get sicker lewt.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 06, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
Bebs- play PoE now for a more polished experience, wait on GD until more content/polishing is added.  Win-win.

2013-14 have been the years of an embarrassment of riches for arpg fans.  I don't think people realize we're living in the last of the golden age.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Brehvolution on November 06, 2013, 03:32:39 PM
I want to play this game. I'll wait til it's done though.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
How is the difficulty? Do you get fucked if you don't have resists/health/etc like Diablo III/PoE?
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 06, 2013, 03:56:31 PM
Still too early to tell.  I only had a problem when I tried to kill a boss two levels higher than me... fucker killed me twice.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 08, 2013, 09:55:35 PM
How is the difficulty? Do you get fucked if you don't have resists/health/etc like Diablo III/PoE?

It started out really easy, felt like I was just breasing through hoardes of monsters. But right now? BRUTAL. It feels like every hoarde is filled with enemies at least one level above my own, lots of enemies with ranged attacks that also negative effect my stats, lots of enemies that boost the stats of other enemies. I'm getting absolutely clobbered here.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 08, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
Dog- what level are you, what quest are you on, and what classes are you playing?
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 08, 2013, 10:04:09 PM
Maybe you just suck, Dog. I forgot which one of you dudes was always dying in D3. It was either Rumbler or Bepbo
 :larry

Viz :rejoice
Creepy Old Guy :rejoice
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 08, 2013, 11:07:55 PM
Dog- what level are you, what quest are you on, and what classes are you playing?

Started getting hard around...hmm...maybe level 14-15? Difficulty ramped up once I reached the estate. My class is Nightblade+Demolitionist.

Aaaand I finished the final quest of the beta in its current form. The clock says right at 7.5 hours, though there is still one little side quest that I can tackle if I grind out another seven or eight levels. Gonna rest now, three and half hour sitting has drained me of energy...
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 09, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
That's about where I'm at, and yeah it's getting harder.  I need some fire resist, and I'm also having issues where if a couple of lv 16-17 melee dudes hit me at once I can die since I'm squishy.  I wish I had increased move speed, would make kiting easier... zombie soldiers are no joke and can move as fast/faster than me.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2013, 10:02:03 AM
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/902138687526460702/EC78A9FD4CCA32A6A5C52CCF3CED4FB083911767/)

:lawd
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 09, 2013, 10:09:18 AM
:gladbron

I've got 2 blues to drop so far... one was a shitty crossbow that I didn't even bother to fuck with, the other is a belt I won't be able to wear for like 5 more levels

Also, using the components to add shit to your gear is the tits.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2013, 10:15:38 AM
Also, using the components to add shit to your gear is the tits.

I like that you can add components even if you haven't completed the set yet, so they aren't just totally useless like they were in Titan Quest.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 11, 2013, 12:04:47 AM
Played through the first quest (to get access to the town). Picked Occultist, hit Lv5. Pets + DOTs ... just don't call it a Warlock? ???

Game is good. A bit rough, but it's still alpha. Combat poops on PoE (I could never get into that game, ever). Agree that respec costs are barbaric especially your first time playing a character (I put a point in an eye, thinking it was an eyeball Beholder-style familiar ... it's just a magic missile.)

A bit worried if they're just putting the first act out there, with a 6 man team, and no real income stream to speak of post Kickstarter... well, hope they get across the finish line. Especially since this alpha is almost a year late (original target was late 2012/early 2013).
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: cool breeze on December 30, 2013, 01:57:06 PM
heads up to kickstarter backers: they sent out steam early access keys to everyone who "bought" the game, regardless of if you backed at a beta/alpha level

Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 30, 2013, 04:49:04 PM
So how is it looking that the final game will ship in 2014?

Judging by impressions its still 2 years off.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
Act 2 is set to roll out by the end of this month.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 03, 2014, 11:38:13 AM
Act 2 is set to roll out by the end of this month.

:noah

I got through Act 1 a week ago or so. Really digging this.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 26, 2014, 09:48:56 AM
ACT II

Get at it, brehs.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2014, 06:58:26 PM
How many acts are they planning? 
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 26, 2014, 07:18:32 PM
Apparently, the way Grim Dawn is set up, they're not traditional acts in the same way that Diablo uses them.  They're just calling it "Act II" to signify that this is the second chunk of major content for the game. In other words, there's not really any solid information on that front, but there will be at least one more such update since this isn't the end.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
Ok, cause I'm jumping in day 1 when this thing is a finished product.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 26, 2014, 07:54:56 PM
They got Act II out pretty quickly, about 3.5 months after it initially was released on Early Access, so maybe they can get the whole thing finished by the end of this year.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 26, 2014, 09:50:40 PM
Ok, cause I'm jumping in day 1 when this thing is a finished product.

There you go again, hanging onto outdated notions of what gaming is. Oh bebsy... help me to help you. HELP ME TO HELP YOU.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 26, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
HHGGGGNNNNNNNNNNNNN sputsputsput
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 20, 2014, 09:41:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw_ie0neCMI

:noah
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 20, 2014, 09:44:18 AM
I need somebody else to get Grim Dawn, because I've been getting absolutely murdered lately.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 20, 2014, 09:48:51 AM
I've got it. Is multiplayer live on it yet?
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 20, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
Another game that needs to get finished.

Also Diablo update coming soon :drool
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 20, 2014, 09:55:57 AM
I've got it. Is multiplayer live on it yet?

Ah, actually it isn't, although it's supposed to be coming pretty soon. Oh well.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 20, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
I don't know what gave me a bigger boner: the armor localization in that video, or the fact that Triumph (who is well aware of my tank obsession) posted it :noah

Guys. I've always wanted something like this. While I love finding great defensive/armor items, there's always a bit of a disappointment level when you rush into battle the next time, expecting to take significantly less damage, and realize the difference isn't too big (fucking RNG). Being able to specifically customize your defense would no doubt allow you to see mitigation increases more easily.

GUYS. Imagine a high level dungeon that includes mobs that attack specific parts of your body. So like, snake or eels that mainly target your feet/legs, or little monkey things that attack your torso, or flying demons that go straight for your head. That could be the ultimate gear check. FUCK.

Path of Exile does this with resistances (fire, lightning, chaos, etc) as does D3, and I always loved when I could stand in aoe dmg and barely lose health due to my resists being so high. But having that concept applied to every armor slot would make me bust multiple nuts.
:noah
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 29, 2014, 11:28:02 AM
Grim Dawn is 50% off on steam for another hour and a half today. OK bros, is it worth it? I know the game is dope, but I'm curious about how much content has been released? I remember when PoE was in beta and there were two acts available, ladders, races, etc; a good deal of content. How many acts of Grim Dawn are available right now?
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 29, 2014, 11:32:42 AM
I say yes. There's probably a good 20 hours worth of gameplay right now with side dungeons and shit, with another act on the way. No ladders and races (yet) but there's crafting, end game dungeons, farming of items, etc etc.

No co-op yet though, which sort of sucks.

But basically, is the game worth it at $12.50? Absolutely, yes.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 29, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Sold. Just bought it.

please tell me this "early access" language doesn't mean I'll have to buy the game again when it's officially released.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 29, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
Nope. You get all future updates to the game, including the finished product.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 29, 2014, 11:50:54 AM
End game shiz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SksG22sbkL4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPaSqTOSxEI
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 29, 2014, 11:57:59 AM
Interesting. ZiggyD is pretty hyped which makes me hype. It'll be interesting to see how the end game develops by launch date. I wish all ARPGs would just steal PoE's map system, shit is crazy cool.

Hopefully multiplayer goes live soon.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: toku on June 29, 2014, 12:01:28 PM
$12 was the right price for me to dive in on this. Been waiting for awhile.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: archie4208 on June 29, 2014, 12:15:14 PM
What's the combat feedback like?

Is it as good as Diablo, or as bad as PoE?

I might wait until the game officially released before I pull the trigger, but I'm kinda curous.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2014, 01:11:06 PM
Combat feedback is basically like Titan Quest, so better than PoE but not quite as good as D3.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 29, 2014, 04:07:51 PM
Combat feedback is basically like Titan Quest, so better than PoE but not quite as good as D3.

What Dog said. Melee is satisfying in a way that it never was for me in PoE; however I'm not going to try to convince anyone that it's mechanically better than D3, which I still find to be the gold standard of ARPG combat amongst the "next gen" ARPGs.

Grim Dawn doesn't do anything perfectly, but it does everything really well. Skill system is better than D3 but not as interesting/robust as PoE. Combat is leagues better than PoE but not as good as D3 as I said earlier.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on July 03, 2014, 06:02:59 AM
As someone not very versed in Diablo games, after playing an hour of this it really just looked and felt like Diablo 3 except a lot less polished.  Seems a lot easier to get totally lost and have no idea where any of the items requested by people in their quests are.

I'm trying to play as a demolition/gun guy so at least I can have a different experience than D3 where I was a barbarian, but since all the enemies just rush me it doesn't seem all that good early on :X
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 03, 2014, 08:45:06 PM
Played a bit a few days ago. It's definitely rough around the edges but that's to be expected, so I won't hold it against the game. I doubt any recent ARPG will match D3's polish when all is said and done, but that's also to be expected given the difference between a AAA team at a huge developer and the smaller teams making this, PoE, Umbra, etc.

Overall I like what I see. Movement is responsive, and combat feels good. I know inevitable PoE comparisons have erupted but I don't see much of a difference in terms of overall combat. I think the major overall difference is in the beginner steps of the game. In Grim Dawn you start out with a very mobile character, a high speed weapon, and a good weapon; I started with a 1H weapon that has a 7-21 dmg range. In PoE you start out with a slow movement character, you find a average or even slow speed weapon, and your weapon dmg range might be 6-10 initially (for regular attacks). Yet once you get higher in level or to this stage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMJ4LTzwSX4&index=3&list=PLt5SL2R19SuLFX61HjO-6jJw-iy42tFOR) you can't really argue that combat feels off. You don't have bodies flying everywhere like D3 or Grim Dawn, but the controls are solid.

One sort of minor thing...I really don't like picking up health potions. D3 eliminated that monotonous process, and I love PoE's system where flasks replenish automatically as you kill shit. In terms of other stuff, I like the talent tree so far. If you fuck up you can fix things, which is a plus; I wish PoE would at least allow non-ladder race league characters to respec at will.

Overall this is promising and I'll definitely be fucking around with it more this weekend.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 04, 2014, 12:19:01 PM
Kripp interviews Arthur Bruno (head dude at Crate)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgKKVJc1cGc
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 04, 2014, 06:23:35 PM
Will watch after work. I remember Kripp shitting on the game a few weeks ago because the beta hasn't really changed much since it went live; he was calling it Grim Yawn for awhile. Now he seems to be more into it. I'll spend more time with it this week.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Rufus on August 04, 2014, 08:13:51 PM
He made several character and came up with some kind of super-build to farm the closest thing to end-game. I've got next to no frame of reference, but some of those tooltips from the video where he showed it off spanned the screen vertically. Had me very interested, I've gotta admit. But I kinda want to wait for Act 2 to be finished.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 23, 2016, 03:15:19 PM
So, this is coming out in a few days. Anyone have any insight on this game? TQ was my favorite ARPG of all time, I should just buy it to support those guys, but if it sucks I will avoid.

Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2016, 03:24:52 PM
Oh man, so weird seeing my impression from 2 years ago. 

Yeah I've been waiting for the game to finish before jumping back on.  Will definitely give it a good shot now.  I've heard very favorable impressions.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 23, 2016, 03:50:18 PM
I really enjoyed what I played of it a couple years ago. Hard to imagine that they've somehow managed to screw it up since then.

We need to get some multiplayer going once the official release is out.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 23, 2016, 04:02:37 PM
It's definitely come a long way. I haven't played in awhile but from what I understand there is still stuff that needs to be addressed. Right now there really isn't an endgame. I'm sure that will be addressed eventually, and I bought the game awhile ago with that expectation. The physics system also feels kinda weird but you'll probably get used to it.

It's worth a purchase. Like Path Of Exile you have to go in realizing a small studio is making it, so don't expect D3 polish. Like PoE it has improved over the years and will continue to do so.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 24, 2016, 09:10:46 AM
I was so hyped for this years ago, now I don't even have a mouse to play it   :idont
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 24, 2016, 09:11:34 AM
wait this is out

wat

will purchase in 24 months for no more than ten dollars

 :lol
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 25, 2016, 05:38:31 PM
Anybody wanna get a multiplayer session going later?
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 25, 2016, 08:02:02 PM
I'm setting up a multiplayer game if anybody wants to join.

Server: The Bore
Password: Bore
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
I'm setting up a multiplayer game if anybody wants to join.

Server: The Bore
Password: Bore

How quick can you join from starting a new game/character?  I might join up.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 25, 2016, 08:30:08 PM
I'm still in the first area, so jump in.

Edit: I'm pretty sure you can just join right away, but I haven't really messed around with the multiplayer any.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2016, 09:49:03 PM
Lol, can't get the game to run :(

Starts in some weird sized window and none of the title screen buttons work so I can't get to options to resize.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2016, 09:55:15 PM
Ok, reset the settings and it works now.  Trying to find THE BORE.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2016, 10:30:21 PM
Game definitely seems more polished than 2 years ago.  Feels like a retail Diablo game at the start now.  Just gotta go through all the menus and figure out how to play.  Seems like there's a lot of options, which is good.  I just wanted a big sword to hit things hard so I went with Shaman but maybe there's a better class for that.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2016, 04:34:48 AM
So uh, I played a shitton of this tonight and finished Act 1.

Playing as a 2H Shaman who basically goes around smashing stuff while having a giant familiar tree monster smashing stuff with me.  Oh and I shoot whirlwinds and bees at enemies and call down lightning on my enemies between smashes.

That said...the game is kind of boring for some reason.  I thought maybe it was because it was super super easy, but I knocked it up one difficulty (which is all that's allowed since the others are locked) and while it got a little more exciting on that difficulty, something about the game is kind of dull compared to Diablo 3.  I'm not sure what it is, the loot is ok-ish, being a 2H job the only really useful weapon drops are 2H weapons which getting a quality rare drop 2H melee weapon is a bit rare.  The combat feedback is alright, the most satisfaction is from my right click lightning attack that does crazy damage and takes a few seconds to reload.  Otherwise it's slash slash slash, which somehow feels less satisfying than slash slash slash in diablo.

I think it's also the level design.  The game is reallllllly mazey and the dungeons go on forever.  Just feels kind of tedious and kind of like being lost all the time.  You blow through area after area after area and there's never really a satisfaction of getting to a new area since the areas are all small and one "quest" can take you through a whole bunch.  Doesn't feel like strong distinct areas like other loot games.  The story is also pretty half-assed presented so it's hard to care about anything besides smashing and getting loot.

It's not bad.  Everything is polished and works and I'm looking forward to playing multiplayer with some of you guys.  Just it's a bit rote and uninteresting.  Coming from Mad Max which was totally rote and fairly dull, I'm not really feeling it.  Need to play something more exciting right now.  In a way I feel like a non-omg loot game is the western equivelent of a musou game.  Slash, slash slash going through motions.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2016, 04:58:18 AM
Hmm, looking online the various build options when incorporating the 2nd job are pretty interesting.  If there's one area the game really excels its in character build options.  Lots of different ways to play the game.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 26, 2016, 10:18:56 AM
That was always my one knock on Titan's Quest also. It starts off so slow and fairly straightforward. That game didn't really become great until the last 1/4 through the end and then the second run-through (and expansion) is where the game really shined and became something special.

Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2016, 05:13:10 PM
Anyone want to get a multiplayer game going tonight?
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 26, 2016, 08:11:15 PM
Reinstalling this on my desktop- I might be able to get some games in this weekend or next week but I'm pretty slammed with work, so it's doubtful. If you see me online, give a shout.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2016, 08:17:21 PM
Cool.  I'm thinking about maybe respecing to a magic user since that might be more exciting than just punch punch punch stuff with a 2H weapon and some helpers.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2016, 11:43:42 PM
Playing way too much of this!  I think I might've finished Act 2, or maybe halfway.  I'm off to find some farms.  Lvl.23 now and in Smuggler's Pass.  Some giant lvl.28 boss hero keeps killing me.  Might need to level up some.  Tried ranged for a bit, but ended up more comfortable going full on Shaman style with 2H Melee + Totem Poles & Lightning Blast & Giant Pet.  Picked Ninja for the 2nd job and mainly just using the ATK debuff for enemies always on effect and the mini-potion heal to alternate between real potions during their cooldown.  Doing alright until this boss hero.

Definitely would be more fun multiplayer.  Singleplayer has kind of a hard-to-put-down but waste-of-life feel of endless slow grind.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 27, 2016, 02:52:18 AM
Pretty far into Act 3.  Game is like crack and I don't even love the game.  But I can't stop looting fuck.  I have a gaming addiction problem with loot games :(. Game is repetitive and just ok and I don't even know why I keep playing but I can't stop :x just speed running the main story cause the quests, like the main story are boring and not bothering exploring because everywhere looks the same.

The worst is that all the good blue epic loot I get is level locked a few levels ahead because I'm underleveled since I'm not taking my time.  But smashing stuff Is fun.

There's something about killing boss heros and watching rare loot fly out of them that is incredibly satisfying.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 27, 2016, 03:51:29 PM
Game has come a long way since the last time I played it (roughly two years ago)

Combat is very satisfying. I'm going Arcanist (Replicating Missile, lawd) this go through, and pumping a few points into Soldier for my secondary class to gain a bit of toughness. The devotion system wasn't active last time I played, so that's entirely new and is an interesting secondary layer of progression added on.

I'm not sure how the end game will play out, but while you're leveling it seems like you can put points in whatever and play as whatever you like, which is cool.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 27, 2016, 05:46:17 PM
Yeah, though I wish you got more devotion points.  It seems interesting and I've got a falcon that shoots out of my attacks through it now, but I've gotten maybe 8-10 devotion points total so far.

Just finished Act 3 on Veteran.  Pretty satisfying.  Lots of deaths but I finally have a build I feel pretty good about.  Halfway through level 34.  Act 1/2 were cool and all, but Act 3 on Veteran was a real challenge and took me a while. 

I think my biggest negative is that there are hardly any 2H melee weapon drops.  Since I need 2H melee for my character as a Shaman class it feels pretty limiting and I'm mainly just upgrading stats through armor since the leveling is slow.  I keep fighting mages and shit who drop staffs and books and mage armor which doesn't help my character at all ><
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 28, 2016, 01:18:44 AM
...and after 3 nights of playing, I just beat the game on Veteran with my build, lvl.38 at the final boss, ~19 hours.  All quests done that I could find, but I didn't go out of my way to explore at all.  Can definitely see the game being much longer if you explore every map out since there's a ton of them and they're huge.

Pros:
+Combat feedback is good.  Normal sucks.  But Veteran solo play is a good challenge for the first time through.  Died a bunch, but the personal riftgate system made it not really frustrating, and it was way more satisfying getting through boss heros or boss fights on veteran.
+Character build system is amazing.  So many options, tons of varieties even within a single class, let alone within a dual-job class + constellation options. 
+Cheap respec is really nice since there's so many options and lets you change up your playstyle until you find one you like
+Nice looking world/game from an art design perspective.  Armor sets all look pretty dull is the only downside.
+Decent amount of quests; could be more, but it's not bad
+Big ass map and tons of them, lots of secrets
+Fairly polished.  No real bugs encountered or anything.  Ran smooth.

Cons:
-Honestly, I think the loot isn't very good in this game, which makes me sad.  I got soooooooo much junk.  I'd only get a cool new weapon upgrade about once every 5 hours, so I'd be using the same weapon for 5 hours straight.  Even armor, I'd get a noticeably better piece of armor about once every 2-5 hours.  For most of the game I'd never get a single piece of useful loot.  I thought playing on Veteran with better drops there'd be some decent loot, but in my experience the loot drops were dozens and dozens of the same damn item over and over. 

-For all the character build options, you have so few skills points, especially for dual-jobs, that the game really limits how much of the character's skills you can use at one time.  I think at 39 levels in, I had about 1/5th of the skill tree done on my main job, and 1/20th of the skill tree done on my 2nd job.  And on Constellations, I only managed to find 10 shrines of the 50, so with only 10 points I got like 2 constellations done (though tbf my falcon dive added to my main melee attack was pretty sweet; but man there's soooooooooooooooooooo much other stuff out there I never even got to see; I get that being a loot game that is for higher difficulty runs/extra characters, but still I feel like because there's so many skills I actually ended up seeing far fewer % of them in a single run than I would in most other loot games so it's a little unsatisfying there)

-Game lacks any theaterics what-so-ever.  When I beat the final boss and it just died like a normal enemy and the game just said "go see someone to report it" and I do and it's just a quest finished...yeah.  It was really hard to care about any of the story or characters or quests because it just felt like they put so little effort into the presentation of it. 

-Inventory management is a pain in the butt like a lot of loot games.  No real quick way to see which armor stuff is better without studying it in-depth.  Warping back to sell stuff is boring as always.


Still the core gameplay is fun and on veteran it was the perfect challenge with my build so it was always satisfying pushing forward.  I think they definitely made a good diablo-game, even if it's not as good as diablo except for the character build options.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Bebpo on February 28, 2016, 01:45:29 AM
Oh and one thing was pretty annoying was having loot level locked because leveling is super slow.  In the last couple of dungeons, if I ever got any slightly better loot it'd be locked at 2-4 levels above me so I couldn't even use it.  When I beat the game I got a cool 1H legendary weapon that I'd like to use in my elite difficulty run...but it's locked at lvl.50.  And seeing how beating the game just took me to lvl.39...that means I can't even use the legendary weapon for like another 10-13 hours, which is so lame.

I liked locking the equipment behind stat requirements much better.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 12, 2016, 04:40:56 PM
level 23 so far, loving that you can stumble into higher level areas and it seems like there are tons of builds
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 13, 2016, 02:11:58 AM
Wow you can't reclaim mastery points, now I fucked up my build. I reclaimed skill points and started to increase mastery in another class, then I noticed I didn't reclaim the mastery from the other one, but apparently you can't.

What a clusterfuck, feel like I wasted 10 hours now that I  do half the dps. Honestly this is a very bad design choice, why let me respec skills but not mastery?

I'm probably done with this game now as I'll never put in another 10 hours just to get this point. What an archaic game design choice. Way more punishing then any Souls game.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 15, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Tried salvaging the build but Im really doing half the dps. Hope one day this will be patched.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 15, 2016, 01:09:47 PM
They've said it won't a couple times, unfortunately. Gotta plan mastery points out carefully.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 15, 2016, 01:49:54 PM
I did, but then I respecced (just for kicks) and didnt see I didnt get the mastery points and started dumping points in my other class mastery.

So now Im 25 deep on both but with no points to have any kind of dps  :doge
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 12, 2017, 06:07:39 PM
Expansion is out with a whole lot of new areas, bosses, 2 new classes, lots of new devotions, shit ton of new items, etc. Level cap has gone up too.

Unfortunately they still want you to play through the same content multiple different times on multiple different difficulties, which is boring and regressive as fuck. It's no coincidence that I finally was able to get into Path of Exile when they did away with that, I believe. I'll check this out in a month or two, tho.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 13, 2017, 02:44:06 AM
Ill redownload when they let me respec those mastery points.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 13, 2017, 11:35:37 AM
Ill redownload when they let me respec those mastery points.

START A NEW CHARACTER, NOOB
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 14, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
Also, apparently there's a way to reset your masteries now, ARE YOU HAPPY YOU F'N WHINER. Also the game has supported mods for a while now so you could have just modded it and done it.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2017, 04:25:09 PM
Never really got into the game (also not fan of guns in ARPGs). But man I'm very glad Grim Dawn is successful, great to see. Helps the genre.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 16, 2017, 04:40:07 PM
Also, apparently there's a way to reset your masteries now, ARE YOU HAPPY YOU F'N WHINER. Also the game has supported mods for a while now so you could have just modded it and done it.

Lol you are bitching too  :lol
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 16, 2017, 04:56:04 PM
Also, apparently there's a way to reset your masteries now, ARE YOU HAPPY YOU F'N WHINER. Also the game has supported mods for a while now so you could have just modded it and done it.

Lol you are bitching too  :lol

WHUT

I'm bitching about having to play the same f'n content 3 times, not that I can't reset my masteries, which you could anyway if you'd taken the time to go get a fucking mod. OMG ARE ALL YUROPEENS THIS LAZY WTF
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: etiolate on October 16, 2017, 08:56:54 PM
Played a ton of Grim Dawn. I will eventually pick up the xpack. I got a 84 Conjurer set up for lightning pistols and a 73 Witchblade chaos tank. The Witchblade is by far the more effective build. Shit is ez mode. Looking to try out the new additions. Kind of more interested in the new constellations than I am the new classes.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Switters on October 22, 2017, 01:14:41 PM
Just got back into it this week with the DLC. Rolled that unbreakable retaliation Warder. Now I'M the hill everyone dies on. Great game but it's got way too much padding and crucible is fun for 10 minutes when you're gearing up new dudes.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: Switters on October 22, 2017, 01:17:27 PM
Played a ton of Grim Dawn. I will eventually pick up the xpack. I got a 84 Conjurer set up for lightning pistols and a 73 Witchblade chaos tank. The Witchblade is by far the more effective build. Shit is ez mode. Looking to try out the new additions. Kind of more interested in the new constellations than I am the new classes.

Got a link to that WB build? I've searched the threads and haven't found anything comprehensive, updated from a year ago, or fun to read.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: StealthFan on October 22, 2017, 01:54:48 PM
Was thinking about restarting but I don't feel like playing through the beginning again. Just going to continue as my current build and get to the end. I am playing a necro in Path Of Exile so I am necro'd out.
Title: Re: Grim Dawn thread of GRIM DAWN
Post by: etiolate on October 23, 2017, 05:11:48 AM
Played a ton of Grim Dawn. I will eventually pick up the xpack. I got a 84 Conjurer set up for lightning pistols and a 73 Witchblade chaos tank. The Witchblade is by far the more effective build. Shit is ez mode. Looking to try out the new additions. Kind of more interested in the new constellations than I am the new classes.

Got a link to that WB build? I've searched the threads and haven't found anything comprehensive, updated from a year ago, or fun to read.

Um I made it up on the fly?

It's full into Occultist and 20 into Soldier. You take and max Posession and Witchfire. Take Curse of Fraility and Sigil of Consumption. You take Blitz, Forcewave and Cadence in Soldier, along with Mark Advantage. Put points into Mehnir's Will, Ovuergard and SHeild Training. You run Shield (of course). Take Field Command. You can run War Cry if you need to create aggro for tanking.

You put the weapon upgrade that gives you Chaos Strike on your main hand. Use that and Blitz to warp around battles. I'd have to log in to find the Constellations and what to tie to connect them with. I know you take the Imp and put Flame Torrent on Blitz as thats your opener. You got Eldritch Fire and Abom Might in there. I might have Hungering Void on something like Sigil. There's just a ton of defensive CDs and Vit + Chaos damage.Fire is your third damage type, just due to Devotions.  The Gear is tanky stats + Chaos dmg with Some Vit damage.