Author Topic: World of Warcraft, with a twist (Read 6734 times)

Prost · « **on:** July 11, 2007, 01:09:38 PM »

Well I've always thought about how fun WoW would be if I played with Denise again, but the game is just too damn time consuming for me to care about it. So the other day a friend of mine was telling me about private servers. They're free, tweaked, and meant to be purely "fun." This works great for me because that's honestly all I have time for. I've been trying this server where the level cap is level 254, and it's possible to go to things like the black temple and solo them, or maybe you need 2-3 people. This is also very cool because of the fact that you don't need to waste time with a 40 man or 25 man raid.

The exp gaining amount is I think like 20-30 times the original leveling speed, and you actually start out in a custom area of Hyjal right at the beginning. You can buy tier 0 epic items right at the start to give yourself a good boost too.

Now you CAN go and do old quests and level that way, but it's easiest just to grind mount hyjal and not do any quests at all.

If anyone is interested then send me a PM and I'll show you how to get on. Again this isn't for anyone hardcore, it's for someone like me who works/goes to school all the time and really might not even have more than an hour a day on any video games at all.

I'll probably check in this afternoon. Or maybe late tonight.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2007, 01:11:14 PM »

This belongs in the gaming forum!

Prost · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2007, 01:12:01 PM »

forgot

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #3 on:** July 11, 2007, 01:12:12 PM »

Doesnt that take out the whole point of MMORPGs.?

Paying someone money to play.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #4 on:** July 11, 2007, 01:21:51 PM »

I dinked around with my level 60 lock this morning, I have a mage going at level 25 right now. Still fun, just avoid the raids and keep instances for the weekend

BlackMage · « **Reply #5 on:** July 11, 2007, 01:36:05 PM »

I don't know if you got my PM but I want to try this out!

GilloD · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2007, 01:50:40 PM »

I just found my copy of WoW. Do I need a working subscription?

cubicle47b · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:14:44 PM »

I may be interested just to see Naxx and C'thun. I still have hope that my guild will make it to the harder parts of Hyjal/BT.

Shuri · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:36:03 PM »

i'd like to try this.

Prost · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2007, 05:16:27 PM »

you don't need a cd key or a valid version.

you can use pirated versions if you like to do everything.

Prost · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2007, 05:17:13 PM »

Quote from: cubicle47b on July 11, 2007, 03:14:44 PM

I may be interested just to see Naxx and C'thun. I still have hope that my guild will make it to the harder parts of Hyjal/BT.

yeah exactly.

i dont want to deal with guild drama, waiting for people, or huge massive raids where small portions of people ruin it for large portions of people... and all the wiping...

i just want to see the new shit, beat it, and get on with it.

Prost · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2007, 07:01:33 AM »

nobody else wants to get down on this? it makes blizzard's WoW seem like complete shit.

trippingmartian · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2007, 07:14:59 AM »

This sounds awesome. Is it possible to do this whilst maintaining a valid install?

I'm playing on a real server right now, but I wouldn't mind checking this stuff out sometime.

Candyflip · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2007, 07:19:48 AM »

It's fun for like a week. I've tried it. I'm perfectly fine playing regular WoW.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:17:54 AM »

lol mmorpgs

So sad. Not quite as sad as ninthings, but sad!

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:28:30 AM »

It must be hard not liking anything but yourself.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:32:28 AM »

Quote from: Lil' Slugger on July 12, 2007, 09:28:30 AM

It must be hard not liking anything but yourself.

I like titties n' beer. Also, it's surprisingly easy when you have such awesome taste.

Candyflip · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:55:32 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 08:17:54 AM

lol mmorpgs

So sad. Not quite as sad as ninthings, but sad!

But why?

tiesto · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:04:38 AM »

Offline RPGs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MMOs... I like to make my own time to play the game, and not have to worry about guild meets and griefers and shit like that. When I was in college a lot of my friends played stuff like Everquest and Asheron's Call, and now my brother is an FFXI addict, it all looks the same to me, run around large, barren fields or stand around town with a million other people not doing anything. Even the combat, aka trading blows back and forth till one of you dies, looks really dull (I prefer the dynamics of a turn based system, all crazy camera angles and stuff like that). One of my friends in college was so addicted to Everquest, I would always ask him if he wanted to hang out, like go bowling or minigolfing or do something out of the dorms, but he was always too busy with a freaking guild meeting!!!

Prost · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:45:33 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on July 12, 2007, 11:04:38 AM

Offline RPGs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MMOs... I like to make my own time to play the game, and not have to worry about guild meets and griefers and shit like that. When I was in college a lot of my friends played stuff like Everquest and Asheron's Call, and now my brother is an FFXI addict, it all looks the same to me, run around large, barren fields or stand around town with a million other people not doing anything. Even the combat, aka trading blows back and forth till one of you dies, looks really dull (I prefer the dynamics of a turn based system, all crazy camera angles and stuff like that). One of my friends in college was so addicted to Everquest, I would always ask him if he wanted to hang out, like go bowling or minigolfing or do something out of the dorms, but he was always too busy with a freaking guild meeting!!!

this new server makes the game more like diablo 2, and you don't need to join a guild to beat the entire game.

cubicle47b · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:32:41 PM »

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it makes blizzard's WoW seem like complete shit.

So taking all human interaction out of an MMO and killing all the complexity in end game raiding by making your character overpowered enough to solo it makes the real game shit? I can see private servers being cool for a few days while you check out content you didn't get to see for whatever reason but without those two elements the game gets really boring really fast. I've run Scarlet Monastery so many times but it's still fun with a new character to go there around level 35-40 and clear the place with a few other people. It isn't fun at all (well, maybe the first time if you pull the entire cathedral at once) to solo it on a protection pally at 70, though. I want to see C'thun and the latter half of Naxx but it's just to look around, I know killing the Four Horsemen will bring none of the joy or satisfaction that would have come if I'd done it at 60 with 39 other people.

Stocky · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:41:01 PM »

Obviously, you're a fraud and have never played WoW.

Scarlet Monastery is never fun.

Stocky · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:42:02 PM »

NICE TRY, BITCHTITS

cubicle47b · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:49:06 PM »

Yeah, you got me, I've never even played World of Warcraft. Grats to you, no one has ever seen through my bullshit before.

Stocky · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:50:47 PM »

Next time say something people will believe.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:56:49 PM »

WoW unbalanced and with no people is even sillier than regular WoW

cubicle47b · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:57:48 PM »

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Next time say something people will believe.

It's hard when I've never played the game. Is Deadmines fun? I'll never know.

Stocky · « **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:11:45 PM »

Quote from: cubicle47b on July 12, 2007, 01:57:48 PM

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Next time say something people will believe.

It's hard when I've never played the game. Is Deadmines fun? I'll never know.

I'll go ahead and answer that for you. No.

Candyflip · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2007, 09:09:43 AM »

Gee stocky, you're hardcore in SM and all.

Shuri · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2007, 10:44:36 AM »

lol WoW being a complex game

Candyflip · « **Reply #30 on:** July 13, 2007, 10:52:47 AM »

Quote from: Shuri on July 13, 2007, 10:44:36 AM

lol WoW being a complex game

Fuck you. I guarantee the learning curve is more steep than any of the trash that has been released on consoles in the past 3 years.

border · « **Reply #31 on:** July 13, 2007, 11:27:47 AM »

Sounds pretty cool, actually -- just to screw around with. I'd do it if it isn't going to fuck up my current WoW installation, or get me banned from WoW-proper. Info PLZ.

cubicle47b · « **Reply #32 on:** July 13, 2007, 11:44:06 AM »

WoW isn't a very complex game until you start raiding. Then there's plenty of complexity to deal with as you organize a guild of 35+ people (used to be 50+), set the raid composition and strategies for that particular raid on encounters where 25 people might have different roles, analyze the data you have available to you to figure out why things went wrong and how to fix it after the raid, and optimize your character for their role(s) with your choice of gear, spec, and the actions you choose (the difference in damage taken and threat generated between a good tank and a bad tank with the same talents/gear can be absurd).

Here's the combat log parse of the raid I was in last night (http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=j14wzjnhbm4re). I spend a good half hour looking at one of these every night we raid to see exactly what happened and try to troubleshoot it. This wasn't a particularly good raid for us so we're talking about adjustments made to tank/healer positioning on the second fight after the 2nd add is killed.

And a C'thun video -

[youtube=425,350]tLAIgt6HnHY[/youtube]

Candyflip · « **Reply #33 on:** July 13, 2007, 11:46:16 AM »

Quote from: cubicle47b on July 13, 2007, 11:44:06 AM

WoW isn't a very complex game until you start raiding. Then there's plenty of complexity to deal with as you organize a guild of 35+ people (used to be 50+), set the raid composition and strategies for that particular raid on encounters where 25 people might have different roles, analyze the data you have available to you to figure out why things went wrong and how to fix it after the raid, and optimize your character for their role(s) with your choice of gear, spec, and the actions you choose (the difference in damage taken and threat generated between a good tank and a bad tank with the same talents/gear can be absurd).

Here's the combat log parse of the raid I was in last night (http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=j14wzjnhbm4re). I spend a good half hour looking at one of these every night we raid to see exactly what happened and try to troubleshoot it. This wasn't a particularly good raid for us so we're talking about adjustments made to tank/healer positioning on the second fight after the 2nd add is killed.

And a C'thun video -

[youtube=425,350][/youtube]

Raids were 40 mans, not 50. lol. But yeah, C'thun was pretty difficult. Nothing compared to some of the stuff in Naxx though. And the real game is at 60/70. Aside from that, PvP is just as complex as anything.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #34 on:** July 13, 2007, 11:46:46 AM »

WoW isn't even a game. lol, mmorpgs.

Candyflip · « **Reply #35 on:** July 13, 2007, 11:54:12 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 13, 2007, 11:46:46 AM

WoW isn't even a game. lol, mmorpgs.

GO AWAY YOU GINGER

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #36 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:19:08 PM »

Quote from: Candyflip on July 13, 2007, 11:54:12 AM

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 13, 2007, 11:46:46 AM
WoW isn't even a game. lol, mmorpgs.
GO AWAY YOU GINGER

HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PRETEND FRIENDS, TALKING ON YOUR PRETTY CHAT PROGRAM

Shuri · « **Reply #37 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:30:06 PM »

lol, that video featured no gameplay at all. just random numbers flashing over crappy graphics and repetitive animations, in a screen covered with interfaces. WoW gamers are distinguished mentally-challenged.

What boring tripe.

Candyflip · « **Reply #38 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:07:02 PM »

Haters. I would personally walk to each of your houses and give you blowjobs if you were able to pick up this game and do the "boring tripe" shown in that video. With or without teeth.

Now that I've been up for 26 hours playing wow I think I'll go to sleep.

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MrAngryFace · « **Reply #39 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:16:30 PM »

There should be moderation in all things.

border · « **Reply #40 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:34:40 PM »

Oh, and can I just start a decked-out character on a fake server? Even if the XP is accelerated, I don't wanna grind 250 levels just to do some crazy shit.

Quote from: Shuri on July 13, 2007, 12:30:06 PM

lol, that video featured no gameplay at all. just random numbers flashing over crappy graphics and repetitive animations, in a screen covered with interfaces. WoW gamers are distinguished mentally-challenged.

WoW videos aren't really impressive to people that don't know the game (and even if you do, most boss kills are boring to watch).....RPGs in general just don't look exciting or dynamic.

Prost · « **Reply #41 on:** July 13, 2007, 04:53:37 PM »

Quote from: cubicle47b on July 13, 2007, 11:44:06 AM

WoW isn't a very complex game until you start raiding. Then there's plenty of complexity to deal with as you organize a guild of 35+ people (used to be 50+), set the raid composition and strategies for that particular raid on encounters where 25 people might have different roles, analyze the data you have available to you to figure out why things went wrong and how to fix it after the raid, and optimize your character for their role(s) with your choice of gear, spec, and the actions you choose (the difference in damage taken and threat generated between a good tank and a bad tank with the same talents/gear can be absurd).

Here's the combat log parse of the raid I was in last night (http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=j14wzjnhbm4re). I spend a good half hour looking at one of these every night we raid to see exactly what happened and try to troubleshoot it. This wasn't a particularly good raid for us so we're talking about adjustments made to tank/healer positioning on the second fight after the 2nd add is killed.

And a C'thun video -

[youtube=425,350]tLAIgt6HnHY[/youtube]

i just soloed c'thun last night, took 10 minutes!

Prost · « **Reply #42 on:** July 13, 2007, 04:55:28 PM »

Quote from: Candyflip on July 13, 2007, 01:07:02 PM

Haters. I would personally walk to each of your houses and give you blowjobs if you were able to pick up this game and do the "boring tripe" shown in that video. With or without teeth.

Now that I've been up for 26 hours playing wow I think I'll go to sleep.

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ehh i agree with everyone else candy i'm sorry.

just make sure the aggro is on the tank, and it takes a few wipes to get positions and things straight. honestly anyone with half a brain can do anything in this game ;( it doesn't require a level a "skill" that could be compared to any other blizzard game besides the diablos

it just requires so much fucking TIME, 26 hours last night, and what did you get done? think about it ;(

i pulled off in an hour what it takes 40+ people weeks to do.

cubicle47b · « **Reply #43 on:** July 13, 2007, 06:56:40 PM »

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Raids were 40 mans, not 50.

:/ I said 50+ people guilds because you don't raid 40 mans without a fair amount of backups or you'll never raid just like it's pretty much impossible to raid 25 mans consistently without at least 30+ raiders.

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i pulled off in an hour what it takes 40+ people weeks to do.

You solo'd C'thun at level 60? Very impressive, Prost.

edit: I know you didn't raid past Molten Core but tell me you at least did one thing that was remotely challenging in the game like a Heroic Shattered Halls run before the nerf. And yes, I mean on live servers, not at level 200 or w/e you're at.

Candyflip · « **Reply #44 on:** July 13, 2007, 10:42:01 PM »

Quote from: Prost on July 13, 2007, 04:55:28 PM

Quote from: Candyflip on July 13, 2007, 01:07:02 PM
Haters. I would personally walk to each of your houses and give you blowjobs if you were able to pick up this game and do the "boring tripe" shown in that video. With or without teeth.

Now that I've been up for 26 hours playing wow I think I'll go to sleep.

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ehh i agree with everyone else candy i'm sorry.

just make sure the aggro is on the tank, and it takes a few wipes to get positions and things straight. honestly anyone with half a brain can do anything in this game ;( it doesn't require a level a "skill" that could be compared to any other blizzard game besides the diablos

it just requires so much fucking TIME, 26 hours last night, and what did you get done? think about it ;(

i pulled off in an hour what it takes 40+ people weeks to do.

Well, I leveled one character from 60-63 and another from 26-40. It's not like I've got anything better to do.

I'm sticking to my guns. This game is much more than people realize, and I'm tired of taking shit for playing it from everyone except other players. You're braindead if you think every fight is a tank n spank. Take Lurker, the first boss in Serpentshrine Cavern.

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When your raid is in position as shown in the picture above, you can start fishing (tell everyone to bring their fishing pool since it can take up to 10-15 mins of fishing to make him spawn).
There are basically 2 repeatable phases in this fight, and no enrage timer (might change in the future).

Phase 1:
Lurker spawns, the mt taunts him (yes, he isnt immune to taunt) and raid can start dpsing in the first secs without any worry. Melee have to be on the inner edge (so they wont get knockbacked in water when taking Whirl), and ranged on the outer edge of the plateform (out of range of Whirl). After some Whirls and Geysers, you will see Lurker stand still and not doing anything, that means he is about to use Spout (starting on his main target = main tank position), since your raid is positioned in his back you got time to run clockwise or counterclockwise according to Lurker rotation. After a full rotation on himself (Spout), when Spout is about to end, dont dps right away, wait for the mt to take whirl and taunt him before dpsing. When you see Lurker dives under water, its phase 2.

Phase 2:
Lurker will dive under water, and up to nine adds will appear (if some of them dont bug under water), 3 Coilfang Guardians (main plateform) and 6 Coilfang Ambushers (3 small plateforms).
Now how to deal with those adds:
- Assign 2 mages for polymorph duty.
- Assign 1 warrior (or druid) per plateform to tank the Ambushers.
- MT will tank the Coilfang Guardians.

The MT will grab the nearest Guardian close to his tanking position, rogues&ranged will go on it to dps him down (be careful to dps in their back, since they got a powerful 180 degrees cleave dealing 8-9k dmg on leathers), then go onto the second Guardian (which one was off tanked by a warrior), and finally kill the third and last Coilfang Guardian (he should be sheeped until the 2 other Guardians are dead).
At same time than rogues are killing Guardians, ranged dps (mage/warlock/hunter) have to kill the Coilfang Ambushers (they have less hp than Guardians) which are being tanked by the 3 assigned warriors.

You have to be fast in this phase to get all adds down before Lurker comes back, since he will start using Spout on MT position (nobody should be in melee range except the MT) and you will probably get some deaths in your raid with adds up while running to avoid being hit by Spout.

And this is the easiest fight in the place. If this game were honestly that easy then everyone would be walking around in Tier 6 and no one would be playing because they'd all be bored with how simple it is.

Stocky · « **Reply #45 on:** July 14, 2007, 04:15:18 AM »

It's easy for a lot of these feggits to talk shit about a game they have never played.

I used to be a MT, along with being a healer and DPS. Knowing all aspects and playing through them real helps you to appreciate the complexity of the game and the thought that goes into the planning.

I remember killing Ragnaros back when you had to kill him before the Sons came out. Every caster was eating deviate fish for the spell haste buff

Candyflip · « **Reply #46 on:** July 14, 2007, 04:19:07 AM »

Yeah, it's difficult to understand the mechanics unless you play. There's literally hundreds of aspects that affect fights, and PvE is only half the game. Before conventional PvP was raped over, you wouldn't believe the amount of strategy that went in to Arathi Basin and Warsong. Even arena is pretty planned out.

Stocky · « **Reply #47 on:** July 14, 2007, 04:21:25 AM »

PVP was my favorite thing to do above all else.

Not only was climbing the old ranking system time consuming, but it always kept you on your feet in PVP.

And Arenas? Shit, probably the hardest thing in the game. Anticipating the two people you'll be fighting and formulating the strategy as you're fighting them. Not to mention the different stages you fight in; each of which cause you to approach the fight in a different way.

Guaranteed 99% of this board who claim to hate WoW couldn't EVER pull some of that shit.

Candyflip · « **Reply #48 on:** July 14, 2007, 04:31:04 AM »

Yeah, I did High Warlord. I know plenty about the honor grind, heh. Arenas aren't as balanced as PvP used to be though. There's terrain issues that make a lot of classes useless in all arenas except for 5v5. Hunters, which used to be my favorite class to PvP with are now utterly worthless for the most part. Locks and Shadow priests can dot the shit out of everything and hide behind pillars. MS warriors will win the match 9 times out of 10.

But now I'm rambling. Back to WoW.

border · « **Reply #49 on:** July 14, 2007, 10:48:48 AM »

Can I get private server info plz?

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Author Topic: World of Warcraft, with a twist (Read 6734 times)