Why aren't you guys talking about the new MGS4 info!?!

[Junpei the Tracer!]

Use the Octocam while playing dead
Crawl on the ground like a worm
Take enemy weapons
You can roll around left and right while on the ground
You can knock enemies out with an electric stun knife
You can hide in a metal drum instead of a card-board box, Kojima says "its stronger and much more safe"
You can play in FPS mode
Hide to long in the garbage can and you acquire a smell that can expose you easier to enemies
Shaking the Sixaxis can shake off the Octocam
Snake controls support mechs and Metal Gear MkII using a PS3 controller.
Metal Gear MkIII has stealth capacilites and is harder to be found be enemies

I mean c'mon!

[bud]

+ Can pretend to be dead by using Octocam
+ Can crawl forward like a looper by getting the hip up and down
+ Can take away enemy's weapons
+ Can roll around sideways while lying down
+ Can use an electric stun knife to stun an enemy
+ Can hide from an enemy under a drum like a cardboard box. A drum is more tough and secure.
+ Too much rolling in a drum makes Snake vomit
+ Not to make him vomit, you can let him browse a magazine with sexy pics (with more pages than before). Pages can be flipped and you can use it against enemies too.
+ The viewpoint can be switched to over-shoulder.
+ The FPS viewpoint is also available. A crosshairs is controllable by SIXAXIS
+ Hiding in a trash can for a too long time adds bad smell to Snake and enemies can sense it
+ You can turn off Octocam by shaking SIXAXIS
+ Snake uses SIXAXIS when he controls Metal Gear MKII
+ Metal Gear MKII is in the stealth mode and it's hard for enemies to spot it
+ Can throw a tornado bomb while lying face up.

GAMEPLAY VIDEO MAYBE TODAY OMG

[Himu]

so why wasn't this at e3

So in order to overcome that bad/dizzy feeling you need to view/read those gravure mags (the chick mags). You can turn the pages byyour self and forget your mission. The same for the enemies.

.......what...

[Beezy]

Snake controls support mechs and Metal Gear MkII using a PS3 controller.

[bud]

so why wasn't this at e3

So in order to overcome that bad/dizzy feeling you need to view/read those gravure mags (the chick mags). You can turn the pages byyour self and forget your mission. The same for the enemies.

.......what...

that's awesome dude  <3 kojima

i don't know, but they're going to show mg:online at the mgs anniversay event which is on july 23rd.

[bud]

Snake controls support mechs and Metal Gear MkII using a PS3 controller.

[Himu]

so why wasn't this at e3

So in order to overcome that bad/dizzy feeling you need to view/read those gravure mags (the chick mags). You can turn the pages byyour self and forget your mission. The same for the enemies.

.......what...

that's awesome dude  <3 kojima

it's stupid. it makes no sense!

[bluemax]

Because we don't care about interactive cut scenes?

[y2kev]

so why wasn't this at e3

So in order to overcome that bad/dizzy feeling you need to view/read those gravure mags (the chick mags). You can turn the pages byyour self and forget your mission. The same for the enemies.

.......what...

that's awesome dude  <3 kojima

it's stupid. it makes no sense!

Makes perfect sense. Dizzy? Look at some girly mags. Revives your spirit, relaxes your soullll. As long as they aren't loli.

[Van Cruncheon]

mgs has never ben especially good

[bork]

so why wasn't this at e3

Because "E3" as we know it now means jack shit.

mgs has never ben especially good

Yeah, it's just been FUCKING AWESOME GOD DAMN CHECK THAT AWESOME GAME OUT.  Except for MGS2, with its (even more) fucked and hard to follow storyline and she-male main character.

[Mr. Gundam]

so why wasn't this at e3

Because "E3" as we know it now means jack shit.

mgs has never ben especially good

Yeah, it's just been FUCKING AWESOME GOD DAMN CHECK THAT AWESOME GAME OUT.  Except for MGS2, with its (even more) fucked and hard to follow storyline and she-male main character.

MGS3 was phenomenal, and MGS1 and 2, even with the weird storyline, weren't slouches either.

[bork]

I still like Metal Gear Solid the best.  Metal Gear Ghost Babel on GBC fucking rocked, too.  I wish it would get a remake.

I'd like to see Kojima and his crew do something else.  I loved Snatcher on Sega CD and would like to see some different games from Kojima again. 

[Mr. Gundam]

Ghost Babel was cool, too. Reminded me a lot of the original Metal Gear from way back when.

I'd like to see Kojima and his crew do something else.  I loved Snatcher on Sega CD and would like to see some different games from Kojima again. 

It cannot be said enough: Zone of the Enders 3!!!!!!

[muckson]

all the metal gear solid games had almost perfect gameplay.  i liked mgs1 best until i played mgs3 recently.  i wanted to hate the idea of a prequel but it was better than the other ones.  the only thing that i could do without is those superpower bosses with mutant gifts.  i mean, what the fuck is that?  snake is just an awesome soldier so why is every other awesome soldier some kind of freak?  lightning powers?  vampires?  a dead guy?  get the fuck out of here.

now this mgs4 shit has raiden and vamp fighting chinese style.  lame.  the gameplay will inevitably be almost perfect again, but i'm worried that the story will be fucked because hideo kojima clearly can't come up with a good story without screwing it up with monsters and mutants and shit. 

[bork]

It cannot be said enough: Zone of the Enders 3!!!!!!

That's not a Kojima game.

Plus I dunno...Me n' Muckson tried playing the much-hyped ZOE2 and got bored after like five minutes.  I just didn't find anything particularly engaging about the game play, and no thanks to the animu story.

[muckson]

werd on that shit lyte.  zoe was NOT impressive.

[Glescoes]

mgs has boring game play + nonsensical story is why I don't care personally.

[bluemax]

all the metal gear solid games had almost perfect gameplay.  i liked mgs1 best until i played mgs3 recently.  i wanted to hate the idea of a prequel but it was better than the other ones.  the only thing that i could do without is those superpower bosses with mutant gifts.  i mean, what the fuck is that?  snake is just an awesome soldier so why is every other awesome soldier some kind of freak?  lightning powers?  vampires?  a dead guy?  get the fuck out of here.

now this mgs4 shit has raiden and vamp fighting chinese style.  lame.  the gameplay will inevitably be almost perfect again, but i'm worried that the story will be fucked because hideo kojima clearly can't come up with a good story without screwing it up with monsters and mutants and shit. 

Almost perfect Gameplay? MGS has always been one of those series where you ENDURE the game more than ENJOY it. Sort of like Resident Evil in that regard. There are some good moments and ideas here and there, but a lot of absolute garbage to fight through. Also MGS was ok in terms of writing and what not because it didn't feel like they were taking it too seriously (except all the anti nuke shit) but the series has just become a bit contrived and over wrought. Kojima should've stuck with making it an obvious B Movie.

[Himu]

Almost perfect Gameplay? MGS has always been one of those series where you ENDURE the game more than ENJOY it. Sort of like Resident Evil in that regard. There are some good moments and ideas here and there, but a lot of absolute garbage to fight through. Also MGS was ok in terms of writing and what not because it didn't feel like they were taking it too seriously (except all the anti nuke shit) but the series has just become a bit contrived and over wrought. Kojima should've stuck with making it an obvious B Movie.

1. You have to endure MGS? Never been the case for me.
2. What is this garbage you must wade through?
3. MGS is still an obvious B movie. MGS2 didn't give you the green light for that shit?

[bork]

I think it's time for this to make its Evilbore debut.

[Error2k4]

this MGS doesnt excite me at all

and I liked MGS3

[Himu]

Yeah I'm not all that excited.

[Himu]

It is. It's always been B movie-ish to me. Even MGS3 retains that feel.

[The Sceneman]

I think it's time for this to make its Evilbore debut.

Started off good but lost me pretty quick afterwards

[demi]

Started off good but lost me pretty quick afterwards

Sounds like every Metal Gear Solid

[Shuri]

The controls in the MGS games were so hilariously shit. You have to hold a button then you release it to shoot. If you want to holdster back your weapon, you gotta let it go too, but slower... wtf? I never had so much trouble with controls in a game, it's just so weird.

[BlueTsunami]

I think it's time for this to make its Evilbore debut.

I love that vid so much

*Explosion*

Guard: What was that noise?

*walks away*

[Eduardo24]

The new trailer sucked.

[Himu]

It is. It's always been B movie-ish to me. Even MGS3 retains that feel.

i guess the question (and what i'm getting at) is : Is Kojima really parodying B-movies or is it just b-movies because it's story/characters are, well, shite?

My money is on a 10/90 split in favour of "it just turned out that it's bollox"

i thought he was always parodying b movies

I mean... have you seen the comparisons to that one pic in Terminator to Metal Gear 1's box art? It's so obvious.

[bud]

so, now you're calling terminator a b-movie? 

[Himu]

well whatever. metal gear was always b movie-ish to me. i mean if you don't consider a game where a man's hand takes control of his mind and features a vampire in a storyline, it's so obviously mocking b movies. I mean come on. It even features giant robots. It makes no sense. It's b movie in game form.

[Himu]

Oh. Well, screw what Kojima was intending. He said he wanted to make movies, not games. So his opinion is invalid.

Plus, Kojima has clearly said he doesn't think games are art. He treats his games like they're fun as shit. That's why he was disappointed people didn't like MGS2's storyline. It was just so stupid, and hilarious, he was sad others didn't get it.

[ananus]

mgs is awesome, screw the haters

[bud]

well whatever. metal gear was always b movie-ish to me. i mean if you don't consider a game where a man's hand takes control of his mind and features a vampire in a storyline, it's so obviously mocking b movies.

i think you are missing the point - yes, i know it`s a b-movie game, with b-movie elements etc...

but nothing that Kojima has said or motioned towards has ever convinced me that that is what he was intending.
I`m pretty sure he thinks it`s art or high brow commentary or something equally misguided.

kojima actually said that games can't be considered art. he basically agreed with roger ebert iirc.

[Himu]

he wanted to be a movie director

[BlueTsunami]

I think Kojima knows that the overall characters and various plotlines (the more goofy subplots) are B level movie plots and characters (which is why he has fun with them). Honestly, the amount of gags and shit he puts into the game alone shows that hes not completely taking himself seriously.

As far as the war commentaries and things such as controlling information and nuclear weapons, are obviously the serious points hes trying to get across.

[y2kev]

I think Kojima knows that the overall characters and various plotlines (the more goofy subplots) are B level movie plots and characters (which is why he has fun with them). Honestly, the amount of gags and shit he puts into the game alone shows that hes not completely taking himself seriously.

As far as the war commentaries and things such as controlling information and nuclear weapons, are obviously the serious points hes trying to get across.

There's no way he doesn't know they are B-level characters. You can't convince me that it's anything else when he has major villains grabbing people's balls as part of an ID process. I think they are B-level characters playing in an A-level story with a C-level script. RP's involvement will hopefully fix the script problem. It just gets so completely cheesy in places. I still love it.

[Himu]

There's no way he doesn't know they are B-level characters. You can't convince me that it's anything else when he has major villains grabbing people's balls as part of an ID process.

This.