yeah, that ruled. however, all i had to do was direct the conversation to a discussion of me and my moderation, and since i knew my fellow mods had a very VERY low tolerance for folks who squander threads discussing posters and their personalities instead of games, the problem immediately took care of itself. as i often tell folks, the most effective strategy to deal with idiots is patience; they almost inevitably hang themselves once they've found the limits of the rope they've been given. trouble is, the ginger brigade cries foul to quickly and too often, and won't let problems take care of themselves. you saw futami start to escalate quickly: don't you think he woulda expired of his own accord? the personality driving that account gets too impatient for results too quickly.