Author Topic: Federal Min Wage Increase - Does it matter? (Read 1326 times)

MrAngryFace · « **on:** July 23, 2007, 05:18:26 PM »

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/News/MinimumWageSetToRise.aspx

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Fast-food worker Fawn Townsend of Raleigh, N.C., knows exactly what she is going to do if her salary goes up with Tuesday's increase in the federal minimum wage: start saving for a car so she can find a second job to make ends meet.

"My goal personally is to get a vehicle so I can independently go back and forth to work and maybe pick up extra work so I can have that extra income, because minimum wage is not cutting it," said Townsend, who is 24 and single. "Being a single person, you can't pay all your bills with one minimum-wage job."

Many lawmakers, along with advocates for low-wage workers, are celebrating the first increase in the federal minimum wage in a decade. Yet many acknowledge that raising it from $5.15 an hour to $5.85 will provide only meager help for some of the lowest-paid workers.

Cyanista · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:20:14 PM »

It matters to people making minimum wage, but it's a completely bullshit increase. It hasn't been raised since like '97 and .70 cents is what they come up with? That's not enough to warrant the use of tax dollars it will take to get the fucking thing signed. That's not a gallon of GAS.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:21:34 PM »

The article poses the question, not me.

Cyanista · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:23:36 PM »

Well I just made you accountable, so ready your rebuttal.

ps I'm not sure how to answer an article. Did I do something wrong here? I haven't had internet classes in years.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:32:31 PM »

Im too busy to rebutt, please see my Red Dawn or Wooden Indian threads to tide you over:

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=10898.0

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=10900.0

FatalT · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:34:38 PM »

What a load of ass. $5.85? I make $6.50. RAISE THAT SHIT TO $7.50 BITCHES!

Bloodwake · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:38:16 PM »

It matters to me, yes.

But it still sucks. And it doesn't help out when I go back to college, because the work program the college runs, I think, isn't liable for raising their wages.

Mupepe · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:39:20 PM »

minimum wage jobs *shudder* i feel sooo bad for those people. It's bad enough that they're most likely taking shit from people at McDonalds, but then they don't even get paid decently to do it. Ugh.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:40:49 PM »

Quote from: Cyanista on July 23, 2007, 05:23:36 PM

Well I just made you accountable, so ready your rebuttal.

ps I'm not sure how to answer an article. Did I do something wrong here? I haven't had internet classes in years.

Mandark · « **Reply #9 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:47:13 PM »

The minimum wage doesn't make a huge difference, but it does help, and it doesn't cost much.

Douchebag conservatives like Robert Samuelson badmouth its effects, not cause they have better ideas, but because they don't like poor people.

Librul: We should raise the minimum wage!

Freeper: That's a weak tool against poverty.

Librul: Well, what would be a better way to fight poverty?

Freeper: I dunno. Who gives a shit about poverty anyway?

Mupepe · « **Reply #10 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:00:51 PM »

i hate poverty.

Wobedraggled · « **Reply #11 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:08:22 PM »

it makes no difference.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2007, 07:04:24 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 23, 2007, 05:47:13 PM

The minimum wage doesn't make a huge difference, but it does help, and it doesn't cost much.

Douchebag conservatives like Robert Samuelson badmouth its effects, not cause they have better ideas, but because they don't like poor people.

Librul: We should raise the minimum wage!

Freeper: That's a weak tool against poverty.

Librul: Well, what would be a better way to fight poverty?

Freeper: I dunno. Who gives a shit about poverty anyway?

Samuelson point that the minimum wage increase doesn't help many of the poorest people because they are unemployed or elderly retirees is incredible vacuous. Obviously the minimum wage increase doesn't help people who are unemployed and don't earn WAGES. I suppose funding breast cancer research is silly since many people who have cancer don't even have breasts.

Mandark · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2007, 08:26:58 PM »

Bingo.

The argument is that if a policy doesn't solve the entire problem, or help every single person affected by the problem, then the policy is bad. So instead of funding an insufficient policy, the solution is to... do nothing!

Samuelson's a good example of expertise gone wrong. He knows more about economics than I ever will, but he frequently uses such bad logic that I can spot the flaws anyway. Knowing he's willing to be that disingenuous on a regular basis pretty much kills any trust I'd have in him, so even if he says something plausible, I'm not inclined to believe him.

Loki · « **Reply #14 on:** July 23, 2007, 11:06:43 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 23, 2007, 08:26:58 PM

The argument is that if a policy doesn't solve the entire problem, or help every single person affected by the problem, then the policy is bad. So instead of funding an insufficient policy, the solution is to... do nothing!

This is a HUGE problem with American politics in general.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2007, 11:09:44 PM »

Well the upside is most States say screw the Federal Min Wage, cost of living demands a higher min wage in our state so we're gonna do it. Unnfortunately not every state does that im sure. Wages in AZ were depressing. The trick is to get a job in a high min wage state then transfer to a low min-wage state and live like a king.

Ichirou · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2007, 11:54:29 PM »

Wow, a 70 cent increase. What bullshit.

Mandark · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2007, 12:03:11 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 23, 2007, 11:54:29 PM

Wow, a 70 cent increase. What bullshit.

It's actually a $2.10 increase, but phased in over three increments. It's going up by 70 cents each July 24th through 2009.

FatalT · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2007, 12:08:50 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 24, 2007, 12:03:11 AM

It's actually a $2.10 increase, but phased in over three increments. It's going up by 70 cents each July 24th through 2009.

By that time I won't have a shitty wage job. Bah.

xnikki118x · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2007, 04:15:20 AM »

I thought it was being raised to $7.15. Who knows.

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Author Topic: Federal Min Wage Increase - Does it matter? (Read 1326 times)