Author Topic: MGS4 gameplay vid (Read 15703 times)

brawndolicious · « **Reply #60 on:** July 24, 2007, 09:37:05 PM »

SC (which is a spy game, not a corridor shooter, maybe you don't know what those are?) uses all mo-capped animations which is why the characters actaully move like people and don't have stiff animations every time you feel like doing scripted statue cock grabbing.

and the terrorists in MGS are more faceless since they wear a mask. Maybe you mean the bosses? In SC, you eavesdrop on the bosses many times but no, you don't roll by them in a metal barrel.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #61 on:** July 24, 2007, 09:41:06 PM »

Nevermind this one.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #62 on:** July 24, 2007, 09:45:49 PM »

Wahhh mo-capped animations and eavesdropping on terrrists while hiding in tactically placed shadows so you can move on from terrists to terrists like checkpoints. STEALTH GAMING

I'd rather play Rainbow Six than Splinter Cell where it does the premise more justice. Leave this type of gameplay to the King, where the gameplay has actually evolved.

Beezy · « **Reply #63 on:** July 24, 2007, 10:42:32 PM »

Fuck Splinter Cell. This thread is about METAL GEAR SOLID.

FatalT · « **Reply #64 on:** July 24, 2007, 11:10:00 PM »

SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE?!

NOM NOM NOM

Robo · « **Reply #65 on:** July 24, 2007, 11:33:55 PM »

Why do you people bother arguing with that fucking chowderhead? Post the Sam Jackson headshake gif and call it settled.

trippingmartian · « **Reply #66 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:19:31 AM »

Enough of this tomfoolery! We all know Hitman is the greatest stealth-action series of all time.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #67 on:** July 25, 2007, 04:33:22 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on July 24, 2007, 09:45:49 PM

Wahhh mo-capped animations and eavesdropping on terrrists while hiding in tactically placed shadows so you can move on from terrists to terrists like checkpoints. STEALTH GAMING

I'd rather play Rainbow Six than Splinter Cell where it does the premise more justice. Leave this type of gameplay to the King, where the gameplay has actually evolved.

Except in SC...you're not fucking invisible when you're under shade. Shadows only help when it's at night and enemies are far away. You're enemies aren't useless fucks, they know they have weapons and can figure out that they should shoot old men that grab statue cocks.

Even if it's evolving the gameplay.

Error2k4 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 25, 2007, 07:07:40 AM »

tbh the story in MGS games is TERRIBLE and anyone that takes it seriously well... jokes on them.

the gameplay on the other hand is godly. after watching the demonstration of MGS4 unf unf unf unf.

graphically it looks great, the fire looks lame and some of the animations too but Im sure they'll fix that. this is the only that'll make drop 6-0-0 dollars on a PS3. it looks incredible.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #69 on:** July 25, 2007, 07:53:29 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on July 25, 2007, 04:33:22 AM

Quote from: BlueTsunami on July 24, 2007, 09:45:49 PM
Wahhh mo-capped animations and eavesdropping on terrrists while hiding in tactically placed shadows so you can move on from terrists to terrists like checkpoints. STEALTH GAMING

I'd rather play Rainbow Six than Splinter Cell where it does the premise more justice. Leave this type of gameplay to the King, where the gameplay has actually evolved.
Except in SC...you're not fucking invisible when you're under shade. Shadows only help when it's at night and enemies are far away. You're enemies aren't useless fucks, they know they have weapons and can figure out that they should shoot old men that grab statue cocks.

Even if it's evolving the gameplay.

Yes because the past genome soldiers in MGS games never fired at Snake when he was spotted. You heard it here first people, the enemies in MGS4 will not attack you, you can just walk to the end of the game. Or maybe its just a demo at a major convention. Oh yeah and Splinter Cell, WATCHING TERRISTS AND A LIVING CITY. I don't know how Kojima is going to deal with "a living city"

Also, its no ones fault you had to play all the MGS games on easy mang

tiesto · « **Reply #70 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:33:17 AM »

Yeah, get this Splinter Cell shit outta this thread... that video looked extremely impressive, only thing I'm worried about is that it looks like it's gonna require a lot of camera control/manipulation... would have preferred more static angles like in the first 3 MGS games.

bud · « **Reply #71 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:39:20 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on July 25, 2007, 08:33:17 AM

Yeah, get this Splinter Cell shit outta this thread... that video looked extremely impressive, only thing I'm worried about is that it looks like it's gonna require a lot of camera control/manipulation... would have preferred more static angles like in the first 3 MGS games.

i used to think that, too, but the environment seems to be alot more complex than the ones in the previous mgs games. the cinematic cam would make it hard to play the game.

y2kev · « **Reply #72 on:** July 25, 2007, 09:35:49 AM »

Don't worry, am nintendo, based on how Ubisoft Montreal developes SC, I'm sure that SC6 will have its own cock grabbing moment.

No, wait, that'd be SC7. SC6 is probably being developed by TOSE.

Christopher · « **Reply #73 on:** July 25, 2007, 10:46:44 AM »

God nintenho shut the fuck up.

How could you hate on Metal Gear Solid??

brawndolicious · « **Reply #74 on:** July 25, 2007, 04:29:07 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on July 25, 2007, 07:53:29 AM

Yes because the past genome soldiers in MGS games never fired at Snake when he was spotted. You heard it here first people, the enemies in MGS4 will not attack you, you can just walk to the end of the game. Or maybe its just a demo at a major convention. Oh yeah and Splinter Cell, WATCHING TERRISTS AND A LIVING CITY. I don't know how Kojima is going to deal with "a living city"
Also, its no ones fault you had to play all the MGS games on easy mang

I'm saying AC has better execution of the dynamic world, which is what kojima said MGS4 has, with recon and espionage elements. In the next SC, there's hardly anybody you can kill so it really requires you to figure out ways to distract people with a limited inventory. However, like I said, AC is on PS3 and is far superior.

Himu · « **Reply #75 on:** July 25, 2007, 04:34:05 PM »

This thread is hilarious

Rman · « **Reply #76 on:** July 25, 2007, 05:05:35 PM »

Man, nintenho, Kojima finally shows gameplay elements of the PS3's most anticipated title and you derail it comparing it to Splinter Cell.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #77 on:** July 25, 2007, 05:42:26 PM »

I didn't compare it to splinter cell at first. Those are two really different games. AC has a lot of the same gameplay ideas (use dynamic environment and people to get to objective) but does it better. I don't know if the average person is very interested in this (only on PS3 and kind of a niche game) but people on forums seem more interested in AC.

y2kev · « **Reply #78 on:** July 25, 2007, 05:54:11 PM »

We've seen how AC plays, and it isn't anything like MGS. The sneaking mechanics are entirely different; indeed, the entire paradigm of "sneaking" is opposite what MGS4 looks like.

AND FUCKING LOL at MGS is a "niche game."

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #79 on:** July 25, 2007, 05:58:00 PM »

am nintenho: I COMPARE APPLES TO ORAGNES

y2kev · « **Reply #80 on:** July 25, 2007, 05:59:55 PM »

At least MGS4 doesn't have floating bodies and distinguished mentally-challenged combat!

ASSY CREED TOTAL

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #81 on:** July 25, 2007, 06:06:08 PM »

Those aren't issues? Thats Ubi creating historically accurate game play. Didn't you know the ancients had +1 Boots of Feathers? And the combat? Well, thats because no one knew about Kung Fu yet.

Beezy · « **Reply #82 on:** July 25, 2007, 07:51:43 PM »

Shut the fuck up nintenho. Go make a Splinter Cell thread.

BamYouHaveAids · « **Reply #83 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:03:34 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on July 25, 2007, 05:42:26 PM

I didn't compare it to splinter cell at first. Those are two really different games. AC has a lot of the same gameplay ideas (use dynamic environment and people to get to objective) but does it better. I don't know if the average person is very interested in this (only on PS3 and kind of a niche game) but people on forums seem more interested in AC.

Ancient Jerusalem sure is weird a place. Apparently a hooded man can fall 4 stories into a bale of hay or smack up a few ladies carrying pots and not draw attention to himself. Kojima sure has a looooooooong way to go if he wants to simulate a dynamic enviorment as masterfully as Ubisoft has.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #84 on:** July 25, 2007, 09:29:38 PM »

I think falling 4 stories into a bale of hay fits a game better than grabbing a statue's cock...and MGS4 is a niche game compared to what's coming out this holiday which is why they delayed it to 2008. AC interests ME a lot more because of it's NEW idea. I don't really like the storyline of MGS games but I was sincerely interested in this one because of the setting, which seems half-assed.

Himu · « **Reply #85 on:** July 25, 2007, 09:34:30 PM »

I saw the E3 demo of Assassin's Creed and it looks absolutely distinguished mentally-challenged.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #86 on:** July 25, 2007, 09:45:07 PM »

It's more of an adventure game. POP looked distinguished mentally-challenged and was my favorite platformer last generation.

Beezy · « **Reply #87 on:** July 25, 2007, 09:48:03 PM »

*puts nintenho on ignore*

That's better.

Himu · « **Reply #88 on:** July 25, 2007, 09:50:34 PM »

No, PoP looked AWESOME from the first time they showed it at E3 all those years ago. AC looks pretty lame. A hooded man in old age Jerusalem acting like a badass but looks totally lame? Phht. AC, as it is nows, doesn't appear to have an inch on the amount of charm PoP: SOT had and still has.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #89 on:** July 25, 2007, 10:01:00 PM »

Waahhhh Assassins Creed. A random person enters a VR world so he can jump on building and harass Israelites, Willco will not be pleased. I'd rather have cock grabbing than an alternate "Waking from a dream" scenario. And at least most of MGS games storylines are intentionally silly and convaluted. Assassins Creed is taking itself seriously.

Bubububu Ubisoft! The only thing good about the game is the Producer. What a looker

Himu · « **Reply #90 on:** July 25, 2007, 10:11:28 PM »

I'd fuck her

y2kev · « **Reply #91 on:** July 25, 2007, 10:42:02 PM »

I think Assassin's Creed is gonna be totally hot shit, but it isn't like Metal Gear at all. There's absolutely 0 in Assassin's Creed like what Snake does with the two PMC groups towards the end of the demo.

That is, of course, unless you can go back in time in AC and blow dinosaurs up with rocket launchers.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #92 on:** July 25, 2007, 11:31:42 PM »

I'm just saying the gameplay idea of jumping into a bale of hay (when it's perfect positioned below you) makes more sense than grabbing a greek statue's cock. I mean how would you expect to switch your camo to that and pose like that without being shown that you should do that?

y2kev · « **Reply #93 on:** July 25, 2007, 11:35:55 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on July 25, 2007, 11:31:42 PM

I'm just saying the gameplay idea of jumping into a bale of hay (when it's perfect positioned below you) makes more sense than grabbing a greek statue's cock. I mean how would you expect to switch your camo to that and pose like that without being shown that you should do that?

First of all, no it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense at all. If you jump into a bale of hay from four+ stories up, you are going to die. I don't see anyone bitching about how the AI in the game didn't notice the fact a man DOVE from the highest point in town into a bale of hay, but hey, it looks cool and that's what games are supposed to do. Second, "grabbing a cock" makes perfect sense in the context of the camo system. You go into the menu and you select "statue camo" and then you go near it and probably press triangle. There you go. Makes perfect sense. Third, I just can't believe you are this hung up on the cock grabbing. It's like, jesus titty fucking christ, move on. So he grabs the "greek statue" (not entirely sure about that) in the balls.

I hope in the final version he grabs balls like nobody's business. I want there to be a gay orgy between Vamp, Snake, Otacon, Ocelot, and Raiden, and at the end they all go to the same statue and ALL grab its cock.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #94 on:** July 25, 2007, 11:58:33 PM »

These games are kinda fun if you press START to skip every cutscene. I'll play this.

Candyflip · « **Reply #95 on:** July 26, 2007, 12:03:01 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on July 24, 2007, 03:41:23 PM

Quote from: Himuro on July 24, 2007, 03:35:28 PM
the enemies are "stupid" because they were doing a test run and know the game by heart.
He rolls by in a drum, is two feet away in a shadow, drives a miniatures robot up to him and zaps him, snipes them with tranquilizers and apparently he makes absolutely no sound when he walks.

Dude, the same shit was in the last couple Splinter Cells. Splinter Cell can suck my dick. I would beat Sam oldman Fisher's ass with my face.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #96 on:** July 26, 2007, 12:36:55 AM »

Grabbing a dick (it was very clearly the crotch) of a statue does not make you hidden. It does not have any positive effect in real life and as far as I know is not good for the game. It's simply a stupid idea. I don't mind the camo system changing what your suit looks like but grabbing statue genitals simply sounds stupid.

Jumping to the bale of hay is farfetched but nowhere near as messed up as what happens in MGS just for the sake of making random humor. In SC the enemy can go within 2 feet from you when you're in a shadow but not in the daytime.

Robo · « **Reply #97 on:** July 26, 2007, 01:25:34 AM »

It's purely for comedic effect, you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #98 on:** July 26, 2007, 01:37:43 AM »

He doesn't laugh when his character's hand goes onto that greek statue's cock. If I was going to include a joke like that I might laugh when presenting it.

Robo · « **Reply #99 on:** July 26, 2007, 01:40:54 AM »

You're one of those people that require a laugh track, aren't you?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #100 on:** July 26, 2007, 01:54:57 AM »

He's using camo and then has the guy pose grabbing a dick. Would make a lot of sense to laugh when you demonstrate something like that.

y2kev · « **Reply #101 on:** July 26, 2007, 01:59:17 AM »

okay now we're just in futami territory

Robo · « **Reply #102 on:** July 26, 2007, 02:01:32 AM »

brawndolicious · « **Reply #103 on:** July 26, 2007, 02:14:17 AM »

I think of it as two possibilities for what MGS could be:

1. More of a novel and it's got gameplay elements to it that show it's creativity.
2. It's more of a videogame and things like story/presentation are second.

In the case of number 1, negative comments shouldn't really make more active discussion since it's not something that we can judge until the game comes out. In the case of number 2, significantly odd parts of the first gameplay demonstration should be discussed when they show something totally unpredictable to the player and yet the AI's attack points and other behavior is completely predictable.

So basically what I'm saying is:

HE SHOULD FUCKING LAUGH.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #104 on:** July 26, 2007, 08:02:07 AM »

Ahahahhahahahhahahhahah

*cough*

Ahem

* BlueTsunami adjusts necktie

UAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAH

tiesto · « **Reply #105 on:** July 26, 2007, 08:18:54 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on July 25, 2007, 10:01:00 PM

Bubububu Ubisoft! The only thing good about the game is the Producer. What a looker

She's hot but really overrated...

Ubisoft blows, one of the worst developers out there.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #106 on:** July 26, 2007, 02:29:15 PM »

Gameplay video is up on the Japanese Playstation Store. Probably on the US store later today.

Himu · « **Reply #107 on:** July 26, 2007, 02:53:52 PM »

Quote from: RoboJ on July 26, 2007, 02:01:32 AM

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WHAT IS THIS FROM

Quote from: tiesto on July 26, 2007, 08:18:54 AM

Ubisoft blows, one of the worst developers out there.

I wouldn't say that. THey make some good games.

Robo · « **Reply #108 on:** July 26, 2007, 03:02:29 PM »

I wish I knew.

Eduardo24 · « **Reply #109 on:** July 26, 2007, 03:32:32 PM »

I am not impressed with Assassins Creed:

1. It seems that the original concept that they had for the game was to ambitious for them. I think that is the reason VR thing plot device was introduced.

2. I think its going to be very short. I heard (and correct me if I am wrong) that there will be 9 "main" people that will have to kill in the game. Fine. The thing is, in the gameplay feed its shown a death of one of them in a few minutes. That mission will probably be a bit longer in the final game, but I still think it will end up being a 5-hour game.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #110 on:** July 26, 2007, 05:02:56 PM »

I think it was 9 people per city. We haven't seen what happens when you go after another guy after being wanted by the guards so it could change how long it takes to finish it.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #111 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:01:34 PM »

Get that fucking gif out of here, it's disturbing and fucking disgusting. Fuck, I hope that's not real. Horrible.

FatalT · « **Reply #112 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:17:04 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 26, 2007, 06:01:34 PM

Get that fucking gif out of here, it's disturbing and fucking disgusting. Fuck, I hope that's not real. Horrible.

It's funny as hell and blatantly fake. C'mon! Laugh a little!

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #113 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:26:12 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 26, 2007, 06:01:34 PM

Get that fucking gif out of here, it's disturbing and fucking disgusting. Fuck, I hope that's not real. Horrible.

Its fake, BrandNew! I can assure you, your head does not explode when air is forced back in.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #114 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:31:16 PM »

Himu is right, it's a stage demo showing off the gameplay for the very first time. Of course it's easy. The MGS series has never been known for easy gameplay, and considering the game isn't even coming out this year there's nothing to complain about.

This game makes me want a PS3. It looks amazing and I'm not done with the video yet. I loveeee me some Splinter Cell, but holy hell this is amazing

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #115 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:45:10 PM »

Quote from: FatalT on July 26, 2007, 06:17:04 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on July 26, 2007, 06:01:34 PM
Get that fucking gif out of here, it's disturbing and fucking disgusting. Fuck, I hope that's not real. Horrible.

It's funny as hell and blatantly fake. C'mon! Laugh a little!

I think it's the kid that makes it look real. Coulda used the Scanners gif.

I know, I know, I overreact.

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Author Topic: MGS4 gameplay vid (Read 15703 times)