Author Topic: Artists who fell off HARD (Read 5439 times)

Phoenix Dark · « **on:** August 01, 2007, 05:24:36 PM »

In this thread we sip scotch while discussing music, in particular which one-time great artists fell from grace the hardest. Perhaps your favorite artist has suffered this: after a couple great albums for some reason - money, lack of illegal drugs, religion - they start making horrible music. :'(

I'll start with some hip hop

Eminem

Em fell off hard. Before signing with Dr. Dre he was absolutely vicious; almost like Illmatic era AZ with bigger balls. His first two albums with Dre are good (especially Marshall Mathers LP) but since then he's been horrible. It's shocking when you listen: his entire flow is different now.

BEFORE: Em (unsigned in 1996)
[youtube=425,350]STt48YPdLOs[/youtube]

AFTER
[youtube=425,350]PLxc53RcHJw[/youtube]
WTF MARSHAL?

SNOOP

I don't think anyone will post videos from an artists who's fallen off harder than this fool. Holy shit, maybe he didn't write Doggystyle afterall...

BEFORE: Doggystyle album
[youtube=425,350]9PVlqQcyTXg[/youtube]

AFTER:
[youtube=425,350]okS1u85MB1g[/youtube]

:'(

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:25:22 PM »

DJ Shadow. :'(

bud · « **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:25:55 PM »

drop it like it's hot has an awesome beat

Himu · « **Reply #3 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:26:34 PM »

I have to say that Rhythm and Gangsta is actually one of Snoop's best albums, and one of my favorite albums from 2004 (or was it 05?).

Talib Kweli and Mos Def.

bud · « **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM »

pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

Himu · « **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:28:02 PM »

Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM

pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

That album has been in the making for years.

Glescoes · « **Reply #6 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:32:14 PM »

infinite

wtf happened

TVC15 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:33:58 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on August 01, 2007, 05:25:22 PM

DJ Shadow. :'(

winnar

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:46:53 PM »

Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM

pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

Dre is a perfectionist and won't release it until it's...perfect. But honestly...I doubt it will come out anytime soon. And the thought of it featuring 50 Cent makes me even less interested in it.

If it doesn't come out next summer than damn, who cares

bud · « **Reply #9 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:48:03 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on August 01, 2007, 05:28:02 PM

Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

That album has been in the making for years.

but eminem said on his last album on that last track that they were going make him do it.

i just wanted to hear some awesome beats.

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 01, 2007, 05:39:02 PM

Chili Peppers went from a a trite nuisance to the most annoying band of the forever.

no they didn't! :'(

their last was good album imo.

hyp · « **Reply #10 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:54:25 PM »

common.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #11 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:57:36 PM »

Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:48:03 PM

Quote from: Himuro on August 01, 2007, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

but eminem said on his last album on that last track that they were going make him do it.

Dre's working with this guy now:
[youtube=425,350]QFmB3szwRJQ[/youtube]

Dude says September but yea right. btw here's one of his song's with Dre's production; beat is nice although it sounds old
[youtube=425,350]-g4hr40vtkI[/youtube]

TVC15 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:58:06 PM »

Chili Peppers have blown since Mother's Milk. Well, Mother's Milk ain't that bad.

bud · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2007, 05:58:29 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 01, 2007, 05:55:14 PM

Lair>Chili Peppers. Well maybe not, BUT STILL.

but lair lacks substance whereas the rhcp do not

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #14 on:** August 01, 2007, 07:37:25 PM »

Pearl Jam

Himu · « **Reply #15 on:** August 01, 2007, 08:15:55 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 07:37:25 PM

Pearl Jam

Peal Jam's self titled album was pretty good

Mupepe · « **Reply #16 on:** August 01, 2007, 08:16:56 PM »

Common

hyp · « **Reply #17 on:** August 01, 2007, 08:19:30 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on August 01, 2007, 08:16:56 PM

Common

Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** August 01, 2007, 08:20:22 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on August 01, 2007, 08:16:56 PM

Common

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #19 on:** August 01, 2007, 08:27:28 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on August 01, 2007, 08:15:55 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 07:37:25 PM
Pearl Jam

Peal Jam's self titled album was pretty good

I listened to it about a dozen times due to people like you. It sucks.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #20 on:** August 01, 2007, 08:29:13 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 08:27:28 PM

Quote from: Himuro on August 01, 2007, 08:15:55 PM
Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 01, 2007, 07:37:25 PM
Pearl Jam

Peal Jam's self titled album was pretty good

I listened to it about a dozen times due to people like you. It sucks.

Only reason it got any hype was the anti Bush shit. Damn Eddie what happened

Himu · « **Reply #21 on:** August 01, 2007, 08:29:56 PM »

Hey now. It's not bad but not great either. It's decent.

Ichirou · « **Reply #22 on:** August 02, 2007, 10:30:30 AM »

All of Pearl Jam's albums rock. CajoleJuice is just trying to prove his portorican street cred.

Tauntaun · « **Reply #23 on:** August 02, 2007, 11:21:18 AM »

Pearl Jam really fell off after Vitalogy, that was the beginning of their direction into a new sound. Ten stands as one of the greatest rock albums EVA!!!

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 02, 2007, 11:58:48 AM »

Quote from: bud on August 01, 2007, 05:27:02 PM

pd, whatever happened with dre's new album?

I expect it to come out day-and-date with Chinese Democracy. $:-\$

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 01, 2007, 05:58:06 PM

Chili Peppers have blown since Mother's Milk. Well, Mother's Milk ain't that bad.

Cosigned. Blood Sugar Sex Magik was unimpeachably awesome, but the band seems to get more and more annoying with each subsequent release. :'(

Solo · « **Reply #25 on:** August 02, 2007, 12:06:17 PM »

Francis Ford Coppola

bud · « **Reply #26 on:** August 02, 2007, 12:14:00 PM »

john mctiernan :'(

Wobedraggled · « **Reply #27 on:** August 02, 2007, 12:51:06 PM »

Metallica, Black album forward.

And justice... was the last good album

Tauntaun · « **Reply #28 on:** August 02, 2007, 03:54:35 PM »

Quote from: Wobedraggled on August 02, 2007, 12:51:06 PM

Metallica, Black album forward.

And justice... was the last good album

you know it's sad but trueeeee....

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #29 on:** August 02, 2007, 04:51:29 PM »

Black Album is a good album. It's not metal, it's a classic hard rock album. Everything after that has sucked YES, but don't lump Black Album with LOAD

TVC15 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 02, 2007, 04:58:46 PM »

Black album is a total sellout record.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #31 on:** August 02, 2007, 05:11:20 PM »

No its not omg. It's called growth. The album is merely a change of direction. You don't sell out with stuff like Wherever I May Roam, Sad But True, etc lol. Nothing Else Matters? Meh a rock band can grow. It's sad that fans expect artists to stay in the exact same lane for their entire career, as if they own stock in them or something. Metallica released 4 great metal albums, then played around with hard rock and changed the music scene. I can't knock em for that. $:-\$

That's not the definition of "selling out" to me

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #32 on:** August 02, 2007, 05:35:15 PM »

Black is a sellout album. Just because you have no taste in metal does not mean that Black is as credible as previous efforts; it just means that it is more accessible to schlubs. And Nothing Else Matters? What are you, a woman?

Robo · « **Reply #33 on:** August 02, 2007, 05:40:00 PM »

I'd call it a sellout record based on where they went after it and because of it, but I think it gets a bad wrap. Beyond the opener and One, And Justice For All is considerably worse. It goes to RUSH levels of boring, overblown complication and takes every thrash gimmick to yawn-filled excesses.

I can't imagine a different scenario moving away from AJFA that would result in an album as good as the black album without wholly retreading Ride the Lightning again. The big-picture problem with it is that they allowed it to be a sellout record by adopting that sound as their new permanent direction, creating from it Load and Reload and all that subsequent garbage.

Gay Boy · « **Reply #34 on:** August 02, 2007, 05:41:17 PM »

Rolling Stones comes to mind, they haven't done anything decent in like 20 years.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #35 on:** August 02, 2007, 05:44:22 PM »

One augured the end. You weeping manpussy, HARVESTER OF SORROWS, THE FRAYED ENDS OF SANITY, TO LIVE IS TO DIE

...DYER'S EVE

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #36 on:** August 02, 2007, 05:48:26 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on August 02, 2007, 05:44:22 PM

One augured the end. You weeping manpussy, HARVESTER OF SORROWS, THE FRAYED ENDS OF SANITY, TO LIVE IS TO DIE

...DYER'S EVE

And Justice is pretty damn BADASS. Listening to that album made the Wizard of Oz more entertaining to watch.

Robo · « **Reply #37 on:** August 02, 2007, 05:54:39 PM »

Metallica can suck a dolphin dick, anyway. Slayer

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #38 on:** August 02, 2007, 05:59:26 PM »

I'M SORRY, DID SOMEONE QUEEF IN HERE

Robo · « **Reply #39 on:** August 02, 2007, 06:03:20 PM »

You're gonna call me a manpussy and hail Metallica over SLAYER?

HAUHAUHA

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #40 on:** August 02, 2007, 06:04:22 PM »

WHO OPENED THE CAN OF TUNA IN HERE

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #41 on:** August 02, 2007, 06:04:43 PM »

Robo · « **Reply #42 on:** August 02, 2007, 06:20:24 PM »

It's the approaching red-rocketed dolphins that you smell. :sp0rsk1

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #43 on:** August 02, 2007, 06:21:22 PM »

I like Slayer, but they're not great song writers. Even Metallica at their worse were able to construct basic shit

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #44 on:** August 02, 2007, 09:19:28 PM »

ONE is in Guitar Hero III

GOTY CONFIRMED

Bloodwake · « **Reply #45 on:** August 03, 2007, 02:45:26 AM »

Hi.

Red Hot Chili Peppers kick ass.

Fuck you guys.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #46 on:** August 03, 2007, 11:47:46 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on August 02, 2007, 09:19:28 PM

ONE is in Guitar Hero III

GOTY CONFIRMED

Slow Ride needs to be the master track and Wheezer needs to be removed, then I'll agree with you.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #47 on:** August 04, 2007, 03:42:54 PM »

Speaking of Weezer, they sure as fuck fell off.

BlackMage · « **Reply #48 on:** August 04, 2007, 08:41:00 PM »

bud · « **Reply #49 on:** August 04, 2007, 08:56:02 PM »

Quote from: BlackMage on August 04, 2007, 08:41:00 PM

U2

BlackMage · « **Reply #50 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:06:37 AM »

what? it's true! they haven't done anything good since the mid 90's.

Ichirou · « **Reply #51 on:** August 05, 2007, 11:14:52 AM »

Their last two albums have been good stuff. Pop sucked, though.

Mike Works · « **Reply #52 on:** August 05, 2007, 05:26:45 PM »

thekavorka · « **Reply #53 on:** August 05, 2007, 05:39:48 PM »

weezer definitely.

and rhcp still kicks ass. their sound may be a lot different, but i still like listening to them

anthonyOA · « **Reply #54 on:** August 05, 2007, 08:39:47 PM »

this is a great thread. the fall of eminem upset me greatly. i'm still kinda in denial about it. he used to be the best without a doubt imo. now he's below average, with most of his re-up not even a good listen.

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Author Topic: Artists who fell off HARD (Read 5439 times)