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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2007, 10:20:41 PM »
Ooh, BTTF and Die Hard are good nominations.

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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2007, 10:20:51 PM »
The problem with Bourne is while they are great movies. I love them, but does anyone honestly think people will be obsessing over them 30 years from now? Godfather trilogy will be and the Star Wars trilogy will be, as well Indiana Jones. And hell Die Hard  & Back to the Future probably But Bourne? Not likely. And I say that as someone who thinks all 3 entries are around a 9/10

Once again, people will be obsessing over the first two Godfather movies.  Nobody cares about the third movie.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2007, 10:21:11 PM »
So we should say "Which is the most POPULAR American trilogy ever made?"?

And Die Hard isn't really a good one...and I absolutely love it.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #63 on: August 11, 2007, 10:22:09 PM »
1 and 3 are great and 2 isn't as terrible as GF pt 3.

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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #64 on: August 11, 2007, 10:22:39 PM »
So we should say "Which is the most POPULAR American trilogy ever made?"?

And Die Hard isn't really a good one...and I absolutely love it.
It's not a good one but people will remember it far longer than Bourne. Purely because of the first movie. Boxsets of those 4(or more?) will continue to sell in 30 years. Just becasue of that first movie.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2007, 10:23:03 PM »
Die Hard 4.0, bitches.  It's no longer a trilogy.
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« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2007, 10:23:12 PM »
Well I haven't seen GF Part 3 - probably because I've heard so many bad things. :lol

Actually wait am I talking about. The Die Hard and Indiana Jones series are pretty much carbon copies of one another. First movie an absolute classic. Second movie the bastard child of the trilogy. Third movie comes out a pretty long time after, with a big supporting actor, and is great. Fourth one comes out over a decade later.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #67 on: August 11, 2007, 10:24:00 PM »
So we should say "Which is the most POPULAR American trilogy ever made?"?

And Die Hard isn't really a good one...and I absolutely love it.
It's not a good one but people will remember it far longer than Bourne. Purely because of the first movie. Boxsets of those 4(or more?) will continue to sell in 30 years. Just becasue of that first movie.

I think you are far too quick to write off bourne.  The books have been fairly popular for a long time.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #68 on: August 11, 2007, 10:24:17 PM »
Die Hard 4.0, bitches.  It's no longer a trilogy.
because of all the 80's revivals it's hard for anything to remain a trilogy. To keep this going lets talk about "SERIES"'s or whatever you want to call them then.

Beverly Hills Cop 4 coming in 2009 and so on. Hell, Michael J. Fox wants to do a 4th BTTF despite his parkinsons if he could play a Doc like role.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #69 on: August 11, 2007, 10:24:58 PM »
Robocop trilogy is the best.  In the third one he flies and fights against robot ninjas.  Bourne can't fly and fight against robot ninjas, so he loses.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #70 on: August 11, 2007, 10:25:55 PM »
Also unless Chris Nolan goes mental or something his Batman trilogy will be be better than the bourne one.

Also the "Genesis Project" star trek trilogy of II, III, and IV was pretty fucking good. (Search for spock is under-rated)
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #71 on: August 11, 2007, 10:26:37 PM »
Also unless Chris Nolan goes mental or something his Batman trilogy will be be better than the bourne one.

Batman Begins isn't as good as either of the first two Bourne movies, though.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #72 on: August 11, 2007, 10:27:18 PM »
Hey TVC you already watched Supremacy too?! :rock
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #73 on: August 11, 2007, 10:28:51 PM »
Also has everone forgot the man with no name trilogy?

YES I KNOW ITS NOT AMERICAN
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #74 on: August 11, 2007, 10:28:58 PM »
Hey TVC you already watched Supremacy too?! :rock

Yes I did.  I'll probably see Ultimatum either this week or this upcoming weekend.

Also has everone forgot the man with no name trilogy?


American film trilogy.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2007, 10:30:03 PM »
Also has everone forgot the man with no name trilogy?


In what world do those movies qualify as American?
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2007, 10:30:43 PM »
Hey TVC you already watched Supremacy too?! :rock

Yes I did.  I'll probably see Ultimatum either this week or this upcoming weekend.

Also has everone forgot the man with no name trilogy?


American film trilogy.
I know but it's still better.

WAIT what about uh

Evil Dead
The Evil Dead (1981)
Evil Dead II (1987)
Army of Darkness (1993)
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2007, 10:31:12 PM »
Japanese Godzilla movies are the peak of cinema.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2007, 10:31:21 PM »
STOP THE INSANITY GAY BOY

KEEP TO THE RULES
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2007, 10:31:31 PM »
Hey TVC you already watched Supremacy too?! :rock

Yes I did.  I'll probably see Ultimatum either this week or this upcoming weekend.

Also has everone forgot the man with no name trilogy?


American film trilogy.
I know but it's still better.


Well, I guess if you can call the Godfather a good trilogy, you can also call the The Man With No Name trilogy American movies.

And yeah, I was considering ED, but it seemed juvenile to bring up, as though in order to throw that in the face of the Godfather, I had better be wearing a Led Zeppelin Icarus shirt and holding a bong or something.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2007, 10:31:57 PM »
Also, Search for spock was Emo SHIT, and Star Trek IV was a sitcom
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2007, 10:32:10 PM »
if pixar doesnt fuck it up toy story 3 will make toy story a better american trilogy, happy?
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2007, 10:32:21 PM »
Gay Boy lol
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2007, 10:33:23 PM »
Gay Boy lol
you cant deny toy story trilogy will surplant bourne!
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2007, 10:33:32 PM »
What about the Mission Impossible films you guuuuuuuuuuuyyyyyys? :P :P :P
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2007, 10:35:27 PM »
MISSION SCIENTOLOGY POSSIBLE
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2007, 10:36:03 PM »
What about the Mission Impossible films you guuuuuuuuuuuyyyyyys? :P :P :P
II was shit :(

WAIT.

Look Who's Talking Trilogy:
Look Who's Talking (1989)
Look Who's Talking Too (1990)
Look Who's Talking Now (1993)

FUCKING OWNED ALL OF YOU
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2007, 10:36:18 PM »
Godfather III is not THAT bad, from what I've seen at least. It pales in comparison to the others but it ain't horrific. Here are some of the trilogies I've seen, in no particular order

Indy:
-Raiders: 10
-Temple: 5.5
-Crusade: 10

LOTR:
-FOTR: 10
-TTT: 9.5
-ROTK: 10
(you guys know by now that's I'm a LOTR fanboy thru and thru)

Star Wars:
-New Hope: 9.5
-ESB: 10
-ROTJ: 9 (Ewoks don't bother me)

POTC:
-Black Pearl: 8
-Dead Man's Chest: 9
-End of World: 5

Spiderman:
-1: 8
-2: 9
-3: 8 (but perhaps my favorite to watch lol)

I still need to see all of Godfather II and III
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2007, 10:38:29 PM »
You guys are all wrong. The true best trilogy ever will be the Mortal Kombat Series (once the third one comes out, of course).

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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2007, 10:39:15 PM »
THE MIGHTY DUCKS TRILOGY

EMMILLLIOOOOOOOOO
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2007, 10:39:49 PM »
X-Men Tril > Spiderman Tril
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2007, 10:40:14 PM »
DIE HARD: 10
Die Harder: 5.5
Die Hard w/Vengence (on AMC right now): 8
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2007, 10:42:22 PM »
DH - 10/10
DH 2 - 6.5/10
DH 3 - 8/10
DH 4 - 8/10

Live Free or Die hard was fucking good. I will get the dvd.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2007, 10:44:24 PM »
Then let me borrow it.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #94 on: August 11, 2007, 10:45:09 PM »
Bourne Identity: 9/10
Bourne Supremacy: 8.5/10
Bourne Ultimatum: 9.5/10
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« Reply #95 on: August 11, 2007, 10:46:00 PM »
Then let me borrow it.
But you live in Ypsi. A girl who just graduated from EMU told me everyone who lives in Ypsi are criminals, just like in Detroit. Sorry.


Also bourne:

Bourne Identity: 9.5/10
Bourne Suprememcy: 8.5/10
Bourne Ultimatium: 9/10
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #97 on: August 11, 2007, 10:48:51 PM »
DH4 - 6/10 :/
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« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2007, 10:49:19 PM »
omg cheebs ypsi isn't bad at all. I'll be in your class come September, and I may try to rape you as a "welcome to ypsi" gift. :-*
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« Reply #99 on: August 11, 2007, 10:49:44 PM »
CUT THIS SHIT NOW PLEASE
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2007, 10:51:03 PM »
FINE

wtf Cajole you didn't rate the other DH films.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2007, 10:51:48 PM »
MST3K's Mike Nelson reaming Casino Royale:  
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« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2007, 10:52:24 PM »
FINE

wtf Cajole you didn't rate the other DH films.

I'm the same as Cheebs.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #103 on: August 11, 2007, 10:53:11 PM »
for the record, i'd consider lotr as the best american movie trilogy, but i haven't seen any of the bourne movies :-\
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2007, 10:53:44 PM »
for the record, i'd consider lotr as the best american movie trilogy, but i haven't seen any of the bourne movies :-\

This gives me an idea.  :-*
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #105 on: August 11, 2007, 10:54:55 PM »
for the record, i'd consider lotr as the best american movie trilogy, but i haven't seen any of the bourne movies :-\

omg im gunna suck your dic :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat

I dunno if I'd say it's the best but it's definitely my fav by far.


btw the Man w/No Name trilogy doesn't count as "American"?
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #106 on: August 11, 2007, 10:55:58 PM »
leone was italian. if we're considering it as american, it would probably get my nod over lotr.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #107 on: August 11, 2007, 10:59:03 PM »
but it starred an american. LET IT SLIDE. And its story took place in America.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #108 on: August 11, 2007, 10:59:36 PM »
Leone was Italian, the movies were made in Italy and Spain by an Italian production company.  The entire cast was European save for Eastwood (in the first film), Eastwood and Van Cleef (in the second) and Eastwood, Van Cleef, and Wallach (in the third).  They are Italian movies.  If you're going to call them American movies you might as well call Gladiator an Italian movie 'cuz the story takes place in Rome, lol.

Also, all the movies originally came out in Europe THREE YEARS prior to ever coming out in the US.  If Gay Boy insists on calling them American movies, he is just proving he is stupid.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #109 on: August 11, 2007, 10:59:56 PM »
Ah makes sense. I was gonna say "well it was filmed in English" then I realized that would be utterly stupid.

btw rank the LOTR classics. I always thought you just liked FOTR
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« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2007, 11:00:42 PM »
DH4 - 6/10 :/

Why'd ya lower it, jerk? :punch

for the record, i'd consider lotr as the best american movie trilogy,

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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #111 on: August 11, 2007, 11:02:04 PM »
LOTR Extended editions are nothing but fan service, but the theatrical cuts are nice.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #112 on: August 11, 2007, 11:02:58 PM »
Ah makes sense. I was gonna say "well it was filmed in English" then I realized that would be utterly stupid.

btw rank the LOTR classics. I always thought you just liked FOTR

Man With No Name movies weren't filmed in English.   They were filmed silent (with each cast member speaking in his own native language), with dialogue and sound added later on.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #113 on: August 11, 2007, 11:04:44 PM »
I never understood the hate for LOTR. I liked all 3, other than RotK's multiple endings.
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2007, 11:05:54 PM »
LotR movies are okay.  I'm not particularly fond of any of them, though I do own the extended editions.
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« Reply #116 on: August 11, 2007, 11:08:51 PM »
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Re: Why Bourne is the best American film trilogy ever made
« Reply #118 on: August 12, 2007, 12:19:51 AM »
It's a stretch calling LOTR an American trilogy.  New Zealand production company, shot in NZ, with a NZ director, made mostly with american dollars.  It's an international movie, no one country can claim it.
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« Reply #119 on: August 12, 2007, 01:46:52 AM »
What about American Beauty?

American Beauty is the shittiest piece of shit that ever shat out of a shitty butt. I can't even begin to articulate how much I hate that overrated piece of saccharine fortune cookie hypocritical irrational nonsensical overloaded heavy-handed GODDAMNED MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF CRAP!

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU BROUGHT IT UP! AAAAAAH!! NEVER MAKE A FILM AGAIN!!!!

Amen.

Bourne might be the best American film trilogy, but I think that says more about film trilogies than it does about Bourne.  I haven't seen Supremacy, but I don't think that would change my opinion on the piece linked in the OP.

It really seems to be stretching on a number of points, like the praise of the actors cast as G Men.  David Straithern and Brian Cox both basically played the generic Ed Harris, Guy In The Control Room Telling His Underlings To Work Harder role.  Most of the bad guy HQ scenes are right out of Enemy of the State.

There are a lot of parallels, and I appreciate that they were more subtle than the repetition of key lines in Batman Begins, but I read it as them just copying the successful formula of the first movie, with a couple "Hey, remember this?" visual cues.  Is having emotionless government killers waiting for a call even a reference?  I figured it was just a class of bad guy that they created that would be a recurring threat in all three movies, a la stormtrooper, agent, or uruk hai.

I guess what I'm saying is that the Bourne films are really fun chase movies, but I'd feel weird giving them a Best Something Ever rank in the canon.