Author Topic: My copy of Phoenix Wright 3 JUST SHIPPED - EB PW3 HYP THRD FYI (Read 6059 times)

The Sceneman · « **on:** August 20, 2007, 10:32:30 PM »

Anyone else geting this? Im pretty pumped. Might even have to put down Etrian to play it

demi · « **Reply #1 on:** August 20, 2007, 10:35:33 PM »

It doesn't even have English language does it? Or is that just Phoenix Wright 4

Ichirou · « **Reply #2 on:** August 20, 2007, 10:36:04 PM »

DAMMIT WHEN DOES THIS COME OUT IN JAPAN!? I went to a game store yesterday and it was not out yet. :'(

And yes, demi, Japanese DS PW3 does have English language. PW4 doesn't.

Beezy · « **Reply #3 on:** August 20, 2007, 11:11:36 PM »

I'll wait for the U.S. version.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #4 on:** August 20, 2007, 11:38:49 PM »

Quote from: Groo on August 20, 2007, 10:34:59 PM

I'll get it. I need to finish PW2 tonight/tomorrow. I'm on the final day of the last case, but it's quite snoozeworthy
I wish the game didn't totally rely on guesswork in later stages. I mean it's cool when you get it and all, but when you have to present totally crazy unrelated random bullshit, it gets on my tits something fierce. Hopefully 3 will be worth the wait.

that was where PW2 really fell down IMO, too many obscure and almost random items to present, and I found myself 'dying' and having to save and reload all the damn time which wasnt too fun. Also I dont understand all the GAF love for the 4th case in PW2... so many feggits are like "Oh man, just you wait for the 4th case, its AMAZING." I just dont get it.

ACTUAL SPOILERS IN HERE DONT ROLL OVER IF YOU HAVENT PLAYED PW2 AND YOU MIGHT GIVE A SHIT IF YOU FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS

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the 4th case is BS because most if the thrills I derived from Phoenix Wright is solving the mystery of the case and proving your client innocent. In the 4th case of PW2 you already know what has happened and you know your client is guilty and the bad guy. Totally fucks up any motivation to battle through the chapter if you ask me

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Ichirou: I think the Jap release date is the 23rd, so check stores then (I think Play Asia shipped so pre-orderers will recieve the game on street date)

Ichirou · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2007, 01:33:50 AM »

I thought the last case in PW2 was a clever twist.

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They can't all be innocent, right? I mean, the Japanese justice system can't be presented as being THAT screwed up. They have to charge the right person at least once in a while.

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The Sceneman · « **Reply #6 on:** August 21, 2007, 01:38:41 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on August 21, 2007, 01:33:50 AM

I thought the last case in PW2 was a clever twist.

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They can't all be innocent, right? I mean, the Japanese justice system can't be presented as being THAT screwed up. They have to charge the right person at least once in a while.
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I mean yeah it was different, but for some reason it just didnt click with me. although I did lol at the defendant's 'refreshing like a spring breeze' attitude. man that was a good joke

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bork · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2007, 08:19:03 AM »

Yeah, I'm definitely getting it, even though I have yet to finish 2. I'm still on the circus case...that's the third story, right? Have a while to go. Same thing happened when PW2 came out last year...that's when I finished up the original and (slowly) started on the second.

Yeti · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2007, 02:08:02 PM »

I will be getting the U.S. version, I think it comes out in September.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2007, 02:17:10 PM »

I suk at PW games lol

The Sceneman · « **Reply #10 on:** August 22, 2007, 01:11:54 AM »

I also learned yesterday that Gyakuten Saiban 4 IS getting translated into English which is awesome news for Phoenix Wright fans. The game is going to be called something like Ace Attourney: Apollo (Cant remember exact name, I just know that they kept the Ace Attourney handle and Apollo is in the title)

Ichirou · « **Reply #11 on:** August 22, 2007, 02:56:27 AM »

Quote from: Scenester on August 22, 2007, 01:11:54 AM

I also learned yesterday that Gyakuten Saiban 4 IS getting translated into English which is awesome news for Phoenix Wright fans. The game is going to be called something like Ace Attourney: Apollo (Cant remember exact name, I just know that they kept the Ace Attourney handle and Apollo is in the title)

Ace Attorney: Apollo Creed. They're changing the main guy to be black and turning it into a Rocky tie-in.

The only reason PW1-3 have the English versions on there are because they're re-releases of GBA games and Capcom Japan can use the fact that it has the English version as a "bonus feature" (though I doubt anybody in Japan bought it just to play in English aside from us foreigners). PW4 was a new game so they didn't want to delay it just to add English language.

Tomorrow can't come soon enough. I WANT MY PHOENIX WRIGHT 3.

bork · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2007, 04:51:47 AM »

I GOTS IT

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2007, 06:15:40 AM »

I hear this one has like eight billion typos, how bad is it?

Ichirou · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2007, 09:11:23 AM »

I GOT IT TOO

I am about to start playing it. I also got a little bonus - a different bonus cover for the DS game case. Nothing special (I remember the US pre-orders got a nifty stylus) but it's somethin', at least.

PW1 and 2 had good translations, let us see how this one fares...

bork · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2007, 10:38:10 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on August 23, 2007, 06:15:40 AM

I hear this one has like eight billion typos, how bad is it?

I'll let you know. But I really gotta get back to PW2...

The Sceneman · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2007, 06:57:59 PM »

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY COPY :'(

IT SHOULD BE SITTING ON MY DESK IN A LITTLE BROWN PLAY ASIA BOX

fuck this im going out for a smoke

trippingmartian · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2007, 08:42:40 PM »

Mine shipped yesterday. My DS is starved. Also ordered one of these

bork · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2007, 09:19:55 PM »

I noticed a couple of "were" and "was" mistakes so far, but that's it.

bork · « **Reply #19 on:** August 24, 2007, 01:37:02 AM »

FFCC impressions please. I almost bought it-- almost, but I have yet to complete Zelda. (I have yet to complete WAY too many games...why do I keep buying new ones? $:-\$ )

The Sceneman · « **Reply #20 on:** August 24, 2007, 01:43:22 AM »

ITS AN ADDICTION

well Im guessing I gotta wait until Monday till I can play this

looks like Im gonna be playing Digital Devil Saga all weekend

Ichirou · « **Reply #21 on:** August 24, 2007, 10:36:41 AM »

Okay, I finished the first case. There were a couple of typos or grammatical errors, but nothing major - about the same as Phoenix Wright 2.

The first case was interesting - it's a flashback to one of Mia Fey's first cases and you actually play as her with Grossberg (from PW1, he used to be Mia's boss) showing you the ropes. I won't spoil anything but I have a feeling that the case is going to have a big impact at some point in the game (I strongly suspect that one of the characters featured in it will reappear for the final case).

Himu · « **Reply #22 on:** August 24, 2007, 10:58:34 AM »

Is there still bullshit animu magic and crap or is it a straight lawyer adventure game? I always hate the magic crap in PW. It doesn't suit the game at all and feels forced.

Ichirou · « **Reply #23 on:** August 24, 2007, 11:47:06 AM »

Animu magic crap? Are you talking about the spirit medium stuff and psyche locks? Psyche locks are still there, though I haven't used them yet, and it looks like ANIMU MAGIC is the focus of episode 2, in a way (it focuses on the Fey family and one of their heirlooms).

Heh, you're going to hate Ace Attorney 4, 'cuz in that one, the main guy's assistant is a magician girl with a top hat and everything.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #24 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:15:43 PM »

woohoo my copy is sitting on my desk. Cant wait for my lunch break

bork · « **Reply #25 on:** August 26, 2007, 08:40:46 PM »

I went back to PW2. Case #3 just drags on and on AND ON, ut I know it's almost over. I hear case #4 is much better. Hope so!

Ichirou · « **Reply #26 on:** August 26, 2007, 11:31:31 PM »

I'm about halfway through case #2 in PW3 (taking it slow since I'm also playing Tales of the World - I just go the magic knight and bishop jobs in that game so it's become fun again, now I think I'm just missing the ninja job but I'm not sure how to get it).

The typo situation seems to be about on par with PW2. That is to say, the translation is very good, but it really needed one last check before being released. So far the worst culprit has been "no" misspelled as "on." That one had me shaking my head for a couple of seconds wondering what the sentence meant. People have been really exaggerating the whole typo situation, unless it gets really bad in the next few cases. It's totally acceptable so far.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #27 on:** August 26, 2007, 11:34:56 PM »

about 2/3 through the 1st case, and yes there is a couple of typos but why people are fussed about them I dont know, translation is as good as ever.

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My hemhorroids are doing the Harlem Shake!

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Ichirou · « **Reply #28 on:** August 26, 2007, 11:38:11 PM »

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The hemorrhoids thing is hilarious, I wonder if that was in the original version or if the translators added it. Have you heard the "her milkshake brings all the boys to the yard" line yet? That one made me laugh out loud.

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The Sceneman · « **Reply #29 on:** August 26, 2007, 11:42:39 PM »

Im not sure, would the Japanese think hemharroids are funny? The other one was a very well realised western pop reference. Im looking forward to playing the rest of the game, as impressions at GAF are saying its the best PW game so far

Ichirou · « **Reply #30 on:** August 26, 2007, 11:44:34 PM »

I think elements from the first case are going to come back into play in the rest of the game, somehow, that's my theory. A few things are left unresolved at the end of the first case.

Second case is very funny so far, but not particularly serious. It's the first time in the series you're not dealing with a murder case.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #31 on:** August 30, 2007, 09:48:23 PM »

Just about wrapped up the 2nd case I think... this game is a lot better than PW2, a the puzzles and cross examinations are a lot more logical, and the music is OMG awesome. A few annoying spelling mistakes (brooch spelt broach, imbued spelt imbrued) but this shit is still off the chain. Godot is probably the best prosecutor the series has seen so far, LOL when he spits his coffee and his mask starts smoking.

Ichirou · « **Reply #32 on:** August 30, 2007, 09:55:40 PM »

I don't like Godot. I want Franziska Von Karma and Miles Edgeworth!!!!!

The Sceneman · « **Reply #33 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:01:22 PM »

wtf Von Karma is laaaaaaaaaame, Edgeworth is cool (I dressed up as him for the office christmas party lol)

Why dont you like Godot? Its hard to not love a coffee enthusiast

Ichirou · « **Reply #34 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:05:27 PM »

I don't like his mask, and I don't like his attitude. We've already seen "arrogant douchebag" twice before with Daddy Von Karma and Edgeworth, I'm not a fan of the "arrogant douchebag who likes coffee" variation on the formula.

Franziska Von Karma was hilarious, especially the way she treated Gumshoe. I hope she comes back at some point in the game.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #35 on:** August 31, 2007, 10:21:37 PM »

Oh man there was a fucked up GAF reference in case 2... at least I think it was a GAF reference

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I see Ive been forced to eat crow!

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Ichirou · « **Reply #36 on:** September 02, 2007, 08:26:44 PM »

I finished case 3 yesterday and started on case 4. There was one point during the court proceedings on the first day that kept me stuck for a long while.

Mild spoilers for case 3

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When you're trying to find a contradiction in the old man's testimony regarding the victim...that had me stuck for like an hour until I figured it out. It was actually ridiculously simple, but still...

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The Sceneman · « **Reply #37 on:** September 02, 2007, 09:20:55 PM »

Yeah Im about halfway through case three, I got stuck on the Old Man's testimony too! I ended up Gamefaq'ing it $:-\$ Oh well. Holy shit Jean Armstrong is amazing, possibly one of the best PW characters. So far game is on par with PW1, which is great as I found PW2 to be a bit disappointing

Ichirou · « **Reply #38 on:** September 02, 2007, 09:26:52 PM »

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The thing with the coffee cup is like...wtf...the only way to notice it is to see which way the handle is facing on the picture. It's so simple, they even strongly hint at it during his testimony, but I still couldn't figure it out.

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I agree, it's a lot better than PW2. My problems with PW2 were the fact that in a lot of cases the use of evidence and the trial segments didn't seem to flow logically. The weak point in PW3 for me is the prosecutor - with each case, I like Godot less and less. I was really hoping for a return by Franziska Von Karma at some point but it looks like that's not gonna happen. The music in PW1 is also the best in the series, by far - I wish they'd stuck with the "advantage" music from the first game throughout the entire series.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #39 on:** September 02, 2007, 09:36:13 PM »

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Oh it wasnt the coffee cup that got me strangely, it was the bit where you had to press him about the victims back then present the apron. I dunno but that had me stumped

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I agree with you about PW2 not flowing logically, too many of the contradictions were too random and convoluted (for a PW game!). As for the music, yep the objection music from PW1 is by far the best, and the tunes from that game are totally classic. Some of the good ones are re-used in 2 and 3, but each game has good unique tracks IMO, the cross examination music in 2 is totally awesome and the trial opening music in 3 is excellent too. I have all 3 OSTs on my iPod

Ichirou · « **Reply #40 on:** September 02, 2007, 09:39:23 PM »

I have the orchestral soundtrack, I bought it last year at TGS and it came with free Phoenix Wright paper dolls.

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I didn't get stumped on the apron thing, that one was actually fairly easy for me to grasp, since he made the point that he didn't notice anything else in particular about the waitress...at first, I thought - okay, what's so special about Maggey? And the only thing I could think about were her glasses, but then I looked at the evidence and the apron with the big ketchup stain that the judge and Phoenix had made such a big deal about was a dead giveaway.

So you were able to figure out the coffee cup (well, looks like a teacup and probably is in the jp version) thing with no problems? It's interesting how two different people will get stuck on two entirely different things.

What'd you think about the girl with the bandage? Have you met her yet?

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The Sceneman · « **Reply #41 on:** September 02, 2007, 09:48:39 PM »

Oh man I want!
(The soundtrack that is, I'll try and DL from somewhere)

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Yeah it is weird, I guess evryones brain works a bit differently. What got me with the coffee cup was the description said 'covered in the victims and Maggey's fingerprints', which implied to me that the victim picked it up with both of his hands, as picking a cup up by the handle wouldnt leave prints. Ive only had a brief encounter with the bandaged girl, but she seems pretty creepy. And the fake Phoenix Wright is probably a bit too xtreme

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Ichirou · « **Reply #42 on:** September 02, 2007, 09:50:33 PM »

Quote from: Scenester on September 02, 2007, 09:48:39 PM

Oh man I want!
(The soundtrack that is, I'll try and DL from somewhere)

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Yeah it is weird, I guess evryones brain works a bit differently. What got me with the coffee cup was the description said 'covered in the victims and Maggey's fingerprints', which implied to me that the victim picked it up with both of his hands, as picking a cup up by the handle wouldnt leave prints. Ive only had a brief encounter with the bandaged girl, but she seems pretty creepy. And the fake Phoenix Wright is probably a bit too xtreme
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The soundtrack is great and it has music from all three games in orchestral form.

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The thing about the fake Phoenix is...it's pretty obvious that he's the guy in the restaurant who put the cyanide into the victim's coffee. Yet Maggey doesn't recognize him when he pretends to be Phoenix Wright later on? And neither does anybody else? lol, the characters in this series are so stupid sometimes.

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The Sceneman · « **Reply #43 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:25:37 AM »

Quote from: Groo on September 02, 2007, 11:44:21 PM

Good god, the last case in PW2 was awful
It just went on, and on... and on..................... and on.
And in the end there was no gratification at all. They could have had achieved the same thing in such a shorter amount of time.

Gonna take a break before PW3, because that left a really foul taste in my mouth, and play Castlevania Portrait of Ruins instead.

I know! The defendant was funny but that case sucked balls to the maximum. I can assure you that PW3 is much better. Castlevania: PoR is absolutely fantastic though so play that

Ichirou · « **Reply #44 on:** September 03, 2007, 01:52:49 AM »

I thought the last case in PW2 was great, though I understand it has many detractors. Thought it was such a cool twist on things.

Some spoilers about case 4:

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It's another flashback case with Mia Fey. No investigation scenes, just a courtroom trial. It ties in to the first case in the game, and I'm guessing the fifth case will tie into it as well. Both case 1 and case 4 deal with Dahlia Hawthorne. Since they take place chronologically in reverse (case 4 is Mia's first case as an attorney, case 1 is actually her second case as an attorney), case 4 serves to give you background on how Mia first encountered Dahlia and why there's a grudge between the two of them.

I imagine the fifth case will deal with Dahlia coming back and trying to get her revenge on Maya or Phoenix or someone, since Mia herself is already dead.

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The Sceneman · « **Reply #45 on:** September 03, 2007, 06:55:46 PM »

Finished the 3rd case and started on case 4 last night.

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Good to see Mia back in case 4, and Edgeworth! That Armando character looks a lot like Godot... Im really keen to learn the connection there. Apparently everything all comes together in case 5... cant wait!

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Ichirou · « **Reply #46 on:** September 03, 2007, 08:26:45 PM »

Spoilers for those who've reached case 4:

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Well, it's pretty obvious that Godot is Armando. Dunno why he hates Phoenix - and according to case 1, Diego Armando was killed by poisoning by Dahlia Hawthorne - so apparently Godot faked his own death or something.

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I'm on case 5 now.

bork · « **Reply #47 on:** September 04, 2007, 10:40:51 AM »

Quote from: Groo on September 02, 2007, 11:44:21 PM

Good god, the last case in PW2 was awful
It just went on, and on... and on..................... and on.
And in the end there was no gratification at all. They could have had achieved the same thing in such a shorter amount of time.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That's how I felt about case #3. Man, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I want to just shelve PW2 and go right to PW3.

Ichirou · « **Reply #48 on:** September 04, 2007, 11:08:18 PM »

The last case in PW2 is awesome, don't listen to the haters. I wasn't a big fan of the circus case, but the last case is WAY WAY WAY better than that.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #49 on:** September 05, 2007, 06:53:11 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on September 04, 2007, 10:40:51 AM

Quote from: Groo on September 02, 2007, 11:44:21 PM
Good god, the last case in PW2 was awful
It just went on, and on... and on..................... and on.
And in the end there was no gratification at all. They could have had achieved the same thing in such a shorter amount of time.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That's how I felt about case #3. Man, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I want to just shelve PW2 and go right to PW3.

I would say do it

Himu · « **Reply #50 on:** September 05, 2007, 07:12:03 PM »

what was case 3 again? the one where maya's kidnapped? i liked the case, but i hated how long it was

The Sceneman · « **Reply #51 on:** September 05, 2007, 08:10:11 PM »

Case 3 was the Circus one, which was pretty good. Maya gets kidnapped in the 4th case which completely blew chunks IMO.

PW3 is wicked cool though, way better than the 2nd game. Not as good as PW1 though

Himu · « **Reply #52 on:** September 06, 2007, 01:54:10 PM »

the circus one owned. one of the best pw cases ever. finding out who the real killer was, was half the fun, and once you did find out you didn't want to put him to trial because he was such a good guy and actually sympathetic. the only sympathetic witness in PW.

I thought the second PW was better than the first.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #53 on:** September 06, 2007, 07:05:04 PM »

CASE 4 SPOILERS

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'My Teen Angel' OMGWTF

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Ichirou · « **Reply #54 on:** September 06, 2007, 11:45:37 PM »

Quote from: Scenester on September 06, 2007, 07:05:04 PM

CASE 4 SPOILERS

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'My Teen Angel' OMGWTF
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Hahaha, totally pedo - he dated her when she was 14 and he was 20.

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The Sceneman · « **Reply #55 on:** September 06, 2007, 11:46:53 PM »

It sort of blew my mind, it was pretty dodgy for a DS game

Ichirou · « **Reply #56 on:** September 06, 2007, 11:56:44 PM »

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The thing is, they could have easily changed it so he was younger when he dated her...even if he were like, 17 or something, it would be a bit less sketchy. Wonder if they'll change it for the US version.

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The Sceneman · « **Reply #57 on:** September 10, 2007, 07:37:11 PM »

Finished the game last night.

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The last case was totally awesome, a fitting end to the trilogy, as all the loose ends from all 3 games came together and tied up in one super case. The truth about Godot was totally heart wrenching and sad, I almost cried. Truly one of the top cases from the Phoenix Wright games, the 4th case from PW1 was about as good.

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All in all an awesome game, if Pw2 disappionted you (It disappoionted me) Pw3 totally redeems that. Was kind of sad to say goodbye to that cast of characters, but Im really looking forward to Apollo Justice

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Author Topic: My copy of Phoenix Wright 3 JUST SHIPPED - EB PW3 HYP THRD FYI (Read 6059 times)