Author Topic: Is anyone else just tired of Nintendo franchises? (Read 9917 times)

Christopher · « **on:** September 30, 2006, 03:01:32 AM »

The endless and endless flow of the same characters doing the same shit again and again and again.

I mean I think Mario Sunshine is where I realized Mario reached his peak...after Mario 64 I got tired of that shit.

Metroid Prime was fucking boring, maybe 2 was better.

Zelda I HOPE is good but the fucking wind waker blew all kinds of shit. (the sytle was not a problem...it was just BORING)

...I don't know why anyone would want a wii right now when your getting the same shit over again.

Mario Galaxy looks like a fucking gimmick game, serioulsy it's like mario on ADD, tiny worlds then JUMP your on another JUMP your on another. Mario 64 was pretty awesome, why not just try and stick with that...the space shit seems like a gimmick world you would find in a LARGE mario game.

I dunno I just think I've come to the point where I just tired of the same shit over and over again, that's why people want to try the PS3 and Xbox, because it has different things and 3rd party support besides Mario Party 283424.

/rant.

I actually pretty am the casual gamer these days, I mean I like to read what happens, but I RARELY sit my ass down and play games...except for like SNES ones =\.

What do you guys think? Are you tired of the SAME SHIT?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2006, 03:08:49 AM »

I thought people wanted PS3 and Xbox 360 for Madden and Halo and GTA and Final Fantasy and MGS and DMC and Virtua Fighter and Tekken and etc.?

But in all seriousness, I thought Super Mario Sunshine was a letdown, but I still played it way too much. I loved the first Metroid Prime, but the second sucked. And I loved the Wind Waker too, even if it was easy as fuck.

Mario Galaxy looks like it might bring some interesting shit with the Wiimore, we'll see. As it is now, I think it looks pretty great. :shrug: And I'm a whore for Super Smash Bros. That was my favorite game of the past generation. So I will buy a Wii for SSBB alone, especially if it's online. The rest of the Wii lineup = mediocre to shit. Zelda: TP is a GC game.

I understand where you're coming from, but the same shit over and over argument can apply to all the systems, but it definitely more pronounced with Nintendo systems due to terrible third-party support.

Christopher · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2006, 03:10:32 AM »

me too Juice I love SSBM

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However, the main games in those franchises were just so bleh =\.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2006, 03:16:41 AM »

Well, I think this thread is going to be pretty one-sided, so I figured I might stick up for Nintendo just a little bit.

I really did enjoy all those games I mentioned though, just not as much as their N64 counterparts. And Super Metroid > Metroid Prime, although I really think Nintendo did as good a job as possible. And F-Zero GX was fuck awesome (Sega baby!)

This prevailing sentiment might have been another reason (other than the fact that they didn't want to spend money in a spec war with Sony and MS) that Nintendo chose to go with an upgraded Gamecube with a new type of controller. People have noticed Nintendo is pulling out the same shit over and over so they figured they might as well add some weird waggle wand bullshit to make it seem new.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2006, 03:18:46 AM »

Nintendo games are like McDonalds burgers. Not really appetizing, but will do in a pinch.

I can still invest 10-20 hours into a title like Mario Kart, Mario Golf, Sunshine, etc etc. and not feel like I wasted my time or money.

But I would never list them as the best games or buy them at full price.

Vizzys · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2006, 03:49:17 AM »

Quote from: Christopher on September 30, 2006, 03:01:32 AM

The endless and endless flow of the same characters doing the same shit again and again and again.

I mean I think Mario Sunshine is where I realized Mario reached his peak...after Mario 64 I got tired of that shit.

Metroid Prime was fucking boring, maybe 2 was better.

Zelda I HOPE is good but the fucking wind waker blew all kinds of shit. (the sytle was not a problem...it was just BORING)

...I don't know why anyone would want a wii right now when your getting the same shit over again.

Mario Galaxy looks like a fucking gimmick game, serioulsy it's like mario on ADD, tiny worlds then JUMP your on another JUMP your on another. Mario 64 was pretty awesome, why not just try and stick with that...the space shit seems like a gimmick world you would find in a LARGE mario game.

I dunno I just think I've come to the point where I just tired of the same shit over and over again, that's why people want to try the PS3 and Xbox, because it has different things and 3rd party support besides Mario Party 283424.

/rant.

I actually pretty am the casual gamer these days, I mean I like to read what happens, but I RARELY sit my ass down and play games...except for like SNES ones =\.

What do you guys think? Are you tired of the SAME SHIT?

etiolate · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2006, 04:02:47 AM »

Watching Sony fans get all uppity about people saying "But isn't it just yet the same DMC/MGS/FF/WHATEVER game again with prettier graphics?" is amazing. Nintendo has faced that accusation for years from Sony fans and now the tables turn. (dun dun dun) Be careful what you bitch about!

And when Nintendo does do something different with their franchises people bitch then too. Zelda(celda) Mario Kart(double dash system), Mario(Sunshine water mechanics), Metroid(first person) etc.

And when they do something even more different with Wii and DS, people freak out completely. Meanwhile, you'll play a 'different' game which is just really a clone of another game with a slidghtly different bald marine at the helm.

In short, videogame fans have become fuck stupid and that's why all companies are abondoning us, MS & Sony want the entertainment center(AV) and Nintendo wants the mobile family(aka other demographics than The Man Show). Furthermore, they know you won't complain too much, because they've learned how to train you. They get you to buy HDtvs, they get you to pay online gaming fees, they get you into a blueray/hddvd battle, they get you to accept marginal graphical improvements, they get you rebuying your movies in new formats, they just simply get you and you're silly enough to think your above it because you don't buy colorful games? Rethink this whole thing Christopher.

Thee Reverend Gary Davis · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2006, 05:32:48 AM »

I just want zelda and metroid. That's all

Cheebs · « **Reply #8 on:** September 30, 2006, 08:33:27 AM »

I grew up with Nintendo. I love my DS and am getting Wii day one. But I must admit each day I grow closer and closer to being a 360 fanboy.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:51:48 AM »

HERE HERE!!!!!

Prost · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:57:07 AM »

Quote from: Christopher on September 30, 2006, 03:01:32 AM

Metroid Prime was fucking boring, maybe 2 was better.

See I thought the first metroid prime owned the shit outta the second. I was bored to tears with the second, and hated the guns a whole lot more. Guns in the first one and storyline > #2

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:57:54 AM »

I thought both were total ass....

Prost · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:58:40 AM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on September 30, 2006, 11:57:54 AM

I thought both were total ass....

Hell yeah, Samus ass.....

Bacon · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2006, 12:03:08 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2006, 02:58:47 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on September 30, 2006, 08:33:27 AM

I grew up with Nintendo. I love my DS and am getting Wii day one. But I must admit each day I grow closer and closer to being a 360 fanboy.

Same here. I really like the DS, although I haven't played it much since I moved. It has a great future lineup though.

Nintendo milks their franchises like no other. People constantly try to say Nintendo is "the only" innovator in the busines, but both MS and Sony have created far more new IPs than Nintendo. Outside of the gimmicky mini game stuff like "Wii Play" and Wii Sports, they haven't created many new IPs for the Wii that we're aware of; Red Steel is perhaps their only big time third party new IP. Project HAMMER? Please. Sony's big 4 games (Lair, Resistance, Motorsport, and Heavenly Sword) are all new IPs. MS has got Gears of War, Crackdown, Mass Effect, Lost Planet, Too Human, etc etc etc. All Nintendo seems to be doing is wating EAD's talent on minigame romps and revising their old IPs.

Mario Galaxy and Zelda look amazing. I'm not 100% sold on Metroid. To me, that Call of Duty 3 port blows MP3 out the water in terms of control scheme. Until Nintendo starts getting their amazing second party developers and partners - Retro, Brownie Brown, Intelligent Systems, HAL, NST, etc - to make compelling new games, they'll continue to disappoint. There's so much talent there. For instance, why doesn't Nintendo have a staple RPG series, or a staple FPS series? Instead of slapping Mario or Metroid onto those genres, create something new. Intelligent Systems could create a kickass RPG, or they could make Fire Emblem more accessible (same gameplay, better graphics, more cutscenes instead of dialogue). Retro has the talent to create an awesome FPS. Camelot could bring Golden Sun to the Wii, or the freaking DS!

Christopher · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2006, 03:08:39 PM »

Great post Phoenix.

Prost · « **Reply #16 on:** September 30, 2006, 04:00:31 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 30, 2006, 02:58:47 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on September 30, 2006, 08:33:27 AM
I grew up with Nintendo. I love my DS and am getting Wii day one. But I must admit each day I grow closer and closer to being a 360 fanboy.

Same here. I really like the DS, although I haven't played it much since I moved. It has a great future lineup though.

Nintendo milks their franchises like no other. People constantly try to say Nintendo is "the only" innovator in the busines, but both MS and Sony have created far more new IPs than Nintendo. Outside of the gimmicky mini game stuff like "Wii Play" and Wii Sports, they haven't created many new IPs for the Wii that we're aware of; Red Steel is perhaps their only big time third party new IP. Project HAMMER? Please. Sony's big 4 games (Lair, Resistance, Motorsport, and Heavenly Sword) are all new IPs. MS has got Gears of War, Crackdown, Mass Effect, Lost Planet, Too Human, etc etc etc. All Nintendo seems to be doing is wating EAD's talent on minigame romps and revising their old IPs.

Mario Galaxy and Zelda look amazing. I'm not 100% sold on Metroid. To me, that Call of Duty 3 port blows MP3 out the water in terms of control scheme. Until Nintendo starts getting their amazing second party developers and partners - Retro, Brownie Brown, Intelligent Systems, HAL, NST, etc - to make compelling new games, they'll continue to disappoint. There's so much talent there. For instance, why doesn't Nintendo have a staple RPG series, or a staple FPS series? Instead of slapping Mario or Metroid onto those genres, create something new. Intelligent Systems could create a kickass RPG, or they could make Fire Emblem more accessible (same gameplay, better graphics, more cutscenes instead of dialogue). Retro has the talent to create an awesome FPS. Camelot could bring Golden Sun to the Wii, or the freaking DS!

I think you should try and send nintendo some suggestions if you could. I'd be interested in all of that

Himu · « **Reply #17 on:** September 30, 2006, 04:08:56 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 30, 2006, 03:08:49 AM

I thought people wanted PS3 and Xbox 360 for Madden and Halo and GTA and Final Fantasy and MGS and DMC and Virtua Fighter and Tekken and etc.?

Agreed. This hypocrisy is really really funny when the reason everyone is so excited about PS3 is for these sequels...and sequels. WHite Knight Story stands as the only new IP on PS3 that looks interesting.

As for 360, pretty much all the games I'm looking forward to on 360 are new IP's.

Atleast Wii we're getting new content from the third party developers.

Oblivion · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2006, 05:20:09 PM »

I have no problem with Nintendo using the same franchises. The bigger problem is using them PROPERLY. For like the first 3-4 years of the GC's life, Nintendo seemed to forget about a little thing called "Quality Control". And they picked the worst times to experiment with their franchises. Celda should have come out now, with TP in the beginning, Fludd was worthless, and Sunshine was just overall pretty unimaginitive, Metroid shouldn't be an FPS, etc. etc.

So yeah, I'm not "tired" of Nintendo franchises, since the same could apply to almost everyone. Just have to make sure to put some more care into them.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #19 on:** September 30, 2006, 08:34:59 PM »

No they're still pretty much the best games. If you're just tired maybe you shouldn't play videogames.

Christopher · « **Reply #20 on:** September 30, 2006, 08:42:59 PM »

we need that ignore option.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #21 on:** September 30, 2006, 08:45:34 PM »

Don't blame me if you prefer crap.

Polari · « **Reply #22 on:** September 30, 2006, 10:59:01 PM »

I'm so pumped for Super Mario Galaxy, better than Gaylo 3, Gaylo Wars and Gaylo Wellington Edition, am I right?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:28:43 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on September 30, 2006, 08:45:34 PM

Don't blame me if you prefer crap.

Like Mario Sunshine? Or Mario sports? Or the last few hours of Wind Waker? Or Geist?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #24 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:32:16 PM »

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The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #25 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:34:20 PM »

lolz all I see is crap

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #26 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:51:01 PM »

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The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #27 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:53:02 PM »

how clever

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #28 on:** September 30, 2006, 11:54:54 PM »

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The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #29 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:02:00 AM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #30 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:03:04 AM »

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The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #31 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:03:54 AM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #32 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:07:20 AM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on October 01, 2006, 12:03:54 AM

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #33 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:08:16 AM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #34 on:** October 01, 2006, 12:31:57 AM »

Quote from: malek4980 on September 30, 2006, 11:32:16 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 30, 2006, 11:28:43 PM
Quote from: am nintenho on September 30, 2006, 08:45:34 PM
Don't blame me if you prefer crap.

Like Mario Sunshine? Or Mario sports? Or the last few hours of Wind Waker? Or Geist?
Outside of Geist, I don't see crap. Maybe mediocre games that are far inferior to previous titles in their respective series, but not crap.

I'll cede Mario Sunshine, but everything else is crap. Poor controls brushed over by bankable IPs. At least Sony and Microsoft are working on the creation and acquisition of great new IPs.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #35 on:** October 01, 2006, 02:49:44 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 01, 2006, 12:31:57 AM

I'll cede Mario Sunshine, but everything else is crap. Poor controls brushed over by bankable IPs. At least Sony and Microsoft are working on the creation and acquisition of great new IPs.

Mario Sports games aren't bad but I haven't played much of them. SMS is very good so I don't know where out of your ass you pulled that out. I've never played Geist, have you played it?

etiolate · « **Reply #36 on:** October 01, 2006, 03:43:30 AM »

PD will say whatever gets him a pat on the back

TVC15 · « **Reply #37 on:** October 01, 2006, 03:52:54 AM »

I was 100% unexcited for Wii until I saw Mario Sunshine. It looked like more of a platformer than either Mario 64 or the main game portions of Mario Sunshine. If Mario Sunshine told us anything, it's that awesome platforming doesn't have to be tied to real world environments. Super Mario Galaxy seems to be taking that idea and running with it. After running through a fucking hotel in Mario Sunshine, I want Nintendo to give me whimsical hard, in the ass, with the next game.

Wind Waker was the best official 3d Zelda game, mainly because previous efforts were technical dogs. I could've even dealt with the sailing if there were more real dungeons than I could count on one hand.

Metroid is in the doghouse, at the moment. The GBA games have been splendid. The DS game was a piece of dried out shit, and the GC games are noble, but misguided, efforts. I'm hoping the new controller makes the games less than an event of racing to the auto-target button, but I'm expecting failure. Retro has hard fumbled a near touchdown twice now. I expect nothing of prominence but fatal flaws.

I expect Smash Brothers to be awesome and fun, as long as online is up to snuff. Smart move on Nintendo to leave their gimmick trash in the junk drawer for this one. Here's hoping they let third parties do the same.

So yes, I largely do care about Nintendo franchises. The good bits in Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine have shown me they still have the "Nintendo magic" when it comes to console games. Let's just hope they can consistently apply it a bit more this go.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #38 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:15:14 PM »

I expect Twilight Princess GAMECUBE DEFINITIVE EDITION to pin me to the floor and fuck my tonsils with its long and spicy Linkcock.

Prost · « **Reply #39 on:** October 01, 2006, 01:21:48 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on October 01, 2006, 01:15:14 PM

I expect Twilight Princess GAMECUBE DEFINITIVE EDITION to pin me to the floor and fuck my tonsils with its long and spicy Linkcock.

Man that's one talented disk!

Himu · « **Reply #40 on:** October 01, 2006, 05:41:10 PM »

If SMS and Wind Waker are crap, then I suggest you play some really crappy games. Because your head will explode. And I will laugh.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #41 on:** October 01, 2006, 05:46:30 PM »

I don't care what anyone says, Mario Party is a lot of fun to play with

the family
a bunch of stoners over some bowls
chicks

So like, say one of you virgins is having a girl over, and they see your lair of a bedroom and fear creeps across their eyes - you can pop in Mario Party and chances are that young lady might loosen up long enough so that you can pop something in her, nudge nudge wink wink

brawndolicious · « **Reply #42 on:** October 01, 2006, 05:50:08 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on October 01, 2006, 05:46:30 PM

I don't care what anyone says, Mario Party is a lot of fun to play with
the family
a bunch of stoners over some bowls
chicks
So like, say one of you virgins is having a girl over, and they see your lair of a bedroom and fear creeps across their eyes - you can pop in Mario Party and chances are that young lady might loosen up long enough so that you can pop something in her, nudge nudge wink wink

Or you could play Halo 2. Mario Party's pretty boring two-player.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #43 on:** October 01, 2006, 05:52:09 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on October 01, 2006, 05:50:08 PM

Or you could play Halo 2. Mario Party's pretty boring two-player.

Yeah, okay Toad. I've known girls that can play Halo 2, but I've known many more who spin around in circles while whining "this sucks, I'm bored".

Two player Mario Party = play on the same team, then start making out

Vizzys · « **Reply #44 on:** October 01, 2006, 06:09:57 PM »

* Viz gets the toad reference

brawndolicious · « **Reply #45 on:** October 01, 2006, 06:15:05 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on October 01, 2006, 05:52:09 PM

Yeah, okay Toad. I've known girls that can play Halo 2, but I've known many more who spin around in circles while whining "this sucks, I'm bored".
Two player Mario Party = play on the same team, then start making out

Unfortunately I don't have Mario Party. And yes you could play on the same team I guess ginger-crotch. The best game is Oblivion though. Just watch and take turns til you get bored and start making out.

Prost · « **Reply #46 on:** October 01, 2006, 07:08:59 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on October 01, 2006, 05:41:10 PM

If SMS and Wind Waker are crap, then I suggest you play some really crappy games. Because your head will explode. And I will laugh.

I personally thought wind waker was just so awful. I have no idea why... I have loved very single zelda game ever released... but wind waker I couldn't stand...

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #47 on:** October 01, 2006, 07:11:27 PM »

Wind Waker I couldn't stand either, but then again I've never been a big Zelda fan...

Prost · « **Reply #48 on:** October 01, 2006, 07:13:49 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on October 01, 2006, 07:11:27 PM

Wind Waker I couldn't stand either, but then again I've never been a big Zelda fan...

Well I fucking hated that!! I'm a HUGE zelda fan, but wind waker just........ fuck it oh well.

Then again I didn't like Majora's Mask either.... Maybe it was just cause these games came out AFTER I got into sc/cs/tfc/wc3/wow

Man online gaming really is 500x better than offline gaming

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #49 on:** October 01, 2006, 07:14:55 PM »

lolz I just hated having to sail for hours and play that gimmicky fuckin' flute, but whatever.

Prost · « **Reply #50 on:** October 01, 2006, 07:15:23 PM »

yeah sailing was distinguished mentally-challenged

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #51 on:** October 01, 2006, 08:44:14 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on October 01, 2006, 06:15:05 PM

And yes you could play on the same team I guess ginger-crotch.

Seriously, is my having red hair supposed to be a dis or something? You look like a resident of the Mushroom Kingdom.

Vizzys · « **Reply #52 on:** October 01, 2006, 08:49:25 PM »

SC deals the ownage I see.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #53 on:** October 02, 2006, 01:43:27 AM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on October 01, 2006, 08:44:14 PM

Seriously, is my having red hair supposed to be a dis or something? You look like a resident of the Mushroom Kingdom.

such personality.

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Author Topic: Is anyone else just tired of Nintendo franchises? (Read 9917 times)