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Van Cruncheon

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2007, 05:57:09 PM »
i dunno. if i were a chick and foc was attracted to me, i'd probably be a little eep'd out.

also, just to play the devil's advocate, guys tend to suspect the sort of filth that goes through other dudes' minds more so than women might suspect. when a dude looks at us like a piece of meat, we know just how close to the butcher we are -- and in the case of many closeted homophobes, that thin white line is probably very very thin :o
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2007, 05:59:16 PM »
Mandark said it best.  Ever been attracted to a girl who doesn't like you?  I'm sure you have.  The thing is she probably treated as a normal occurence, not as something so despicable that she wanted to vomit.

Note: Bz or Shake, if you are reading this, it does not apply to you.





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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2007, 06:05:46 PM »
Note that I am only attracted to Corny due to the latent homosexuality indicated by his penchant for Hawaiian shirts and clamato.
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2007, 06:11:00 PM »
i dunno. if i were a chick and foc was attracted to me, i'd probably be a little eep'd out.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2007, 06:14:49 PM »
homos don't freak me out.  i just wouldn't want to get raped by one.
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2007, 06:15:28 PM »
homos don't freak me out.  i just wouldn't want to get raped by one.

What if it was a straight dude raping you because he was confused and high on PCP?
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2007, 06:16:06 PM »
"That white guy is looking at me weird, like he wants to tell me what I can and can't do with my ova.  I don't know why I'd get that feeling..."

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2007, 06:29:10 PM »
it might not be rape. you can't declare rape until the sexual encounter is over!
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2007, 06:29:21 PM »
homos don't freak me out.  i just wouldn't want to get raped by one.

What if it was a straight dude raping you because he was confused and high on PCP?

that'd be a great compliment!   :-*
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2007, 06:33:53 PM »
homos don't freak me out.  i just wouldn't want to get raped by one.
Pretty sure no one wants to be raped.
i'm pretty sure that depends on a lot of variables.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2007, 06:51:30 PM »
Gays aren't intersted in straights. 
I've been hit on by more guys in my lifetime than I have women. And I mean apart from some things done out of drunken curiosity, I'm pretty fucking straight.

+1

Mentioned it before, but I got hit on by 11 guys so far. The most recent instance was a few months ago, with my previous landlord (who was in his 60s).  :-\

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2007, 10:08:22 PM »
My family's Catholic, but growing up I never heard any of them say anything negative about gay people.  That might be because I have gay family members so they were more accepting of the whole thing.
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2007, 10:45:38 PM »
My family's Catholic, but growing up I never heard any of them say anything negative about gay people.  That might be because I have gay family members so they were more accepting of the whole thing.
yeah but a few aren't.  I had a gay friend who didn't come out to his catholic family and another friend there got into a pretty heated argument with them in front of him defending gays.

I don't think catholics are particularly more homophobe but if you're at all a homophobe, you're going to be pretty closed-minded and stubborn.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2007, 11:13:12 PM »
okay let's just be honest here

Anti-gay and pro-gay are both just ways of being self-righteous.  Within one community it is self righteous to be against gays and hold up a certain moral code, and within the other community it is self righteous to show how accepting you are without question.

Obviously both can not be right, and hating someone can not be right, and blindly accepting things without question is not right either.

You see a lot less of either when there is no community around them to back their stance up, and a real discussion of the subject is rare because someone feigns offense and everyone resorts back to self righteousness.

SO

Are you guys going to have a real discussion, be willing to question, forget whatever you find righteous or just be like rednecks hate gays cuz they fuck pigs?

Because I like the real discussion.  The real morality of it, how strong the bible is about it, if it is a choice or something born in, why does it offend us, how does it make all parties involved feel,  how we should treat it and all that.


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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2007, 11:15:41 PM »
So, you're saying...you want...real talk?
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« Reply #75 on: August 30, 2007, 12:51:49 AM »
et: I appreciate the sentiment of wanting a higher level of discourse, I really do, but...  come on, dude.

Some opinions can and should be dismissed out of hand.  Ridicule and dismissal, as mean and shallow as they are, are effective tools to enforce social norms.  "Don't treat people like shit for being gay" seems obvious enough to me that I'm willing to deploy sarcasm and snark to enforce it.

Yeah, there's discussion to be had on the margins, working out the details, which can still be very important to people's everyday lives, and if you want to find it, there's all sorts pomo, third-wave feminist discourse get involved with.

But at some point, you've gotta set up the little wooden figure saying "YOUR ARGUMENT MUST BE THIS SANE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY."  I'm not interested in having to feign consideration for the idea that Southern slavery was an altruistic institution, that the gulags and the Stasi and the Great Cultural Revolution were legit responses to American subterfuge, that Jews secretly run the world's finances, or that we should hate fegs cause God does.

I'm kind of interested in whatever psychosocial forces make people think crazy, horrible things, but I'm not about to dignify those thoughts as being in the same area code as rational.

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« Reply #76 on: August 30, 2007, 01:48:47 AM »
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et: I appreciate the sentiment of wanting a higher level of discourse, I really do, but...  come on, dude.

Ayeee. I guess I just was bored by the circle jerk. 

Obviously it's not really worth time to pander to nuts, but I just like to make sure they are nuts and not misrepresented. 

etiolate

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #77 on: August 30, 2007, 01:49:07 AM »
So, you're saying...you want...real talk?

damn you

brawndolicious

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2007, 02:13:56 AM »
et, I don't care if you're a homo or not but why are you talking about your bathroom habits?

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #79 on: August 30, 2007, 02:29:02 AM »
The tucker clip reminded me of one of my pet peeves.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #80 on: August 30, 2007, 02:42:25 AM »
oh, I didn't read the thread.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #81 on: August 30, 2007, 10:15:26 AM »
et: I appreciate the sentiment of wanting a higher level of discourse, I really do, but...  come on, dude.

Some opinions can and should be dismissed out of hand.  Ridicule and dismissal, as mean and shallow as they are, are effective tools to enforce social norms.  "Don't treat people like shit for being gay" seems obvious enough to me that I'm willing to deploy sarcasm and snark to enforce it.

Yeah, there's discussion to be had on the margins, working out the details, which can still be very important to people's everyday lives, and if you want to find it, there's all sorts pomo, third-wave feminist discourse get involved with.

But at some point, you've gotta set up the little wooden figure saying "YOUR ARGUMENT MUST BE THIS SANE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY."  I'm not interested in having to feign consideration for the idea that Southern slavery was an altruistic institution, that the gulags and the Stasi and the Great Cultural Revolution were legit responses to American subterfuge, that Jews secretly run the world's finances, or that we should hate fegs cause God does.

I'm kind of interested in whatever psychosocial forces make people think crazy, horrible things, but I'm not about to dignify those thoughts as being in the same area code as rational.

It's worse than that. Any opinion that has any kind of anti-gay, "racist", sexist or bigoted innuendo embedded into it is automatically tossed aside. That's the mental reflex that is massively taught to people. Every time that for example, they read a newspaper, they're reminded of how incredibly outrageous and frowned upon it is to hold such thoughts, and that any such view is dumb and wrong.

People who think such things might be inhumane and very insolent, but they are not necessarily dumb; they might convey an intelligent viewpoint. To find the truth, you need to examine the two opposing sides of any argumentation thoroughly. No matter how obscene or irrational some people may feel that these kinds of opinions might be, they deserve to be examined with some sort of intellectual honesty and neutrality.

To sanitize everything is just plain wrong. The world isn't even or cuddly. By thinking compassionately towards everyone, in the end in some cases you just plainly deny some data that is based on empiricism. There are certain sorts of truths and awful facts that are disadvantageous for certain races, minorities and whatnot, which will never be discussed or quoted anymore in any media outlet.
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #82 on: August 30, 2007, 02:31:56 PM »
homos don't freak me out.  i just wouldn't want to get raped by one.

So I guess the BBQ is off then...
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2007, 02:33:55 PM »
homos are teh ghey and if you don't like it, then you can just GET OUT!


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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2007, 03:01:27 PM »
I can kinda understand why people would be freaked out by my lifestyle.  It's very post-modern/alternative in a lot of ways, and sometimes it even freaks me out a little.  Let's go over the facts.

-I have a boyfriend who I love dearly, but he's not the only one I love.  Ask the 9 other guys I've been with... in the last month.  *shiver*  Yeah yeah, slut total.  Proud of it.
-We get into some weird sex.  Pissing, spanking, tickling, rimming... all is par for the course in this strange world we call San Francisco.
-We proudly admit to being shallow and immature.  It's all about sex, and that means it's all about vanity.  If more people were honest about what they were looking for, we would have a lot less assholes on this Earth.

All of this shit is creepy to a lot of straight folks.  We fuck who we want, when we want, and we don't lie about it.

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« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2007, 03:05:34 PM »
I can kinda understand why people would be freaked out by my lifestyle.  It's very post-modern/alternative in a lot of ways, and sometimes it even freaks me out a little.  Let's go over the facts.

-I have a boyfriend who I love dearly, but he's not the only one I love.  Ask the 9 other guys I've been with... in the last month.  *shiver*  Yeah yeah, slut total.  Proud of it.
-We get into some weird sex.  Pissing, spanking, tickling, rimming... all is par for the course in this strange world we call San Francisco.
-We proudly admit to being shallow and immature.  It's all about sex, and that means it's all about vanity.   If more people were honest about what they were looking for, we would have a lot less assholes on this Earth.

All of this shit is creepy to a lot of straight folks.  We fuck who we want, when we want, and we don't lie about it.

Of course this freaks people out. But people like drinky that we should not only tolerate but accept and somehow try to understand pissing and shallow sex.

I for one don't give a shit what you do at home. I just don't want to hear about it when I am in public. You piss on each other while dressed in black leather? Great just dont throw a fucking parade to celebrate it.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #86 on: August 30, 2007, 03:07:06 PM »
i have no problems with gays whatsoever, never had and never will, but i don't really like the gays that act like girls. those are the types of gays that you see in mtv's dating shows and i always wonder why they can't just act like men, you know? and why do they mostly pick those kinds of gays for those shows, why not the ones who act normal? sure, you're gay but that doesn't mean you have to go all girly.

the only gay on mtv that didn't act like a girl, as far as i can remember, was karamo on real life. i know, mtv, lol.
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2007, 03:07:57 PM »
I just don't want to hear about it when I am in public. You piss on each other while dressed in black leather? Great just dont throw a fucking parade to celebrate it.
Here's the thing: you're going to hear about it.  Why?  Because that's the fucking world we live in, Callandor.  Three words: Deal. With. It.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2007, 03:10:27 PM »
Yea it exists. Just dont throw a little hissy fit and call people biggots when they dont want to hear about it.

There is a difference between tolerating and accepting it.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #89 on: August 30, 2007, 03:12:20 PM »
i have no problems with gays whatsoever, never had and never will, but i don't really like the gays that act like girls. those are the types of gays that you see in mtv's dating shows and i always wonder why they can't just act like men, you know? and why do they mostly pick those kinds of gays for those shows, why not the ones who act normal? sure, you're gay but that doesn't mean you have to go all girly.

That's who they are, you know?  I know you're being sincere and I think you're cool, bud, but it isn't an act.  Some gays act like guys, and some act like girls.  It's not like just because they are gay they feel they NEED to act like a girl.  Some people (like me) were RAISED by all girls.  And by all accounts, I'm very masculine and straight acting!  I do have a few effeminate qualities (the limp wrist thing and I cross my legs), but overall I'm just me.  I like dick, and I like Halo.  There's no act.  The girlies are just being who they are, and love them for it.  These days it takes real guts to be a queen in a world full of commoners.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #90 on: August 30, 2007, 03:18:44 PM »
i have no problems with gays whatsoever, never had and never will, but i don't really like the gays that act like girls. those are the types of gays that you see in mtv's dating shows and i always wonder why they can't just act like men, you know? and why do they mostly pick those kinds of gays for those shows, why not the ones who act normal? sure, you're gay but that doesn't mean you have to go all girly.

That's who they are, you know?  I know you're being sincere and I think you're cool, bud, but it isn't an act.  Some gays act like guys, and some act like girls.  It's not like just because they are gay they feel they NEED to act like a girl.  Some people (like me) were RAISED by all girls.  And by all accounts, I'm very masculine and straight acting!  I do have a few effeminate qualities (the limp wrist thing and I cross my legs), but overall I'm just me.  I like dick, and I like Halo.  There's no act.  The girlies are just being who they are, and love them for it.  These days it takes real guts to be a queen in a world full of commoners.

 :lol <3

that's true and i probably should've worded it differently. i'm only talking about the guys who act like girls just because they're gay. i mean, i saw this show a while back and this guy was like ''i don't know if i'm gay or not'' and during this fase he wouldn't act girly or anything (no offence) but when eventually realized he was, he'd go all girly all of a sudden, and those are the ones i was talking about.

edit: just be yourself (not directed at you), that's what i'm trying to say here. :-[
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2007, 03:26:57 PM »
:lol <3

that's true and i probably should've worded it differently. i'm only talking about the guys who act like girls just because they're gay. i mean, i saw this show a while back and this guy was like ''i don't know if i'm gay or not'' and during this fase he wouldn't act girly or anything (no offence) but when eventually realized he was, he'd go all girly all of a sudden, and those are the ones i was talking about.

I understand what you mean.  The guy was probably just trying to find out who he really was, and thought that was what you HAVE to do in order to be gay.  Either way, though, people are just people.  If he was just putting on a false pretense, love him for it anyway.  You have no idea how much fun the queen-y gays can be.  I used to dislike queens for a long time.  I thought it was stupid to act like a stereotype if you identified with a certain sub-culture of people.  But then I realized that it's just who they are, and they're fabulous for it.  I used to refuse to hang out with the queens, thinking they were silly and stupid, but I soon came to realize they are much more fun than the boring feggits I was associating with who hated the queens as much as me!

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #92 on: August 30, 2007, 03:51:53 PM »
I do however, wish that gays would relinquish the use of the words gay and flamboyant.  I think having a one syllable word for happy is extremely important and flamboyant, well thats just a fun word but these words are no longer acceptable because of there homosexual meanings  :(

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #93 on: August 30, 2007, 07:11:42 PM »
It may be biological or psychological, but once when a guy friend of mine tried to make out with me, I felt totally repulsed, and angered.  It was very different from the repulsion I'd feel hooking up with a really ugly chick.   

There are many gays who are attracted to straight guys.  I don't know how anyone could deny this, and think it's really wierd people are getting shit for saying so. 

Aside from being involved with physical homo acts, I have no problem with homosexuality.  I don't mind hearing about gay acts in the slightest, and can watch gay porn and laugh.  I can even kiss a gay man on the lips with no problem if there's no tongue involved.


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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #94 on: August 30, 2007, 09:49:16 PM »
I can kinda understand why people would be freaked out by my lifestyle.  It's very post-modern/alternative in a lot of ways, and sometimes it even freaks me out a little.  Let's go over the facts.

-I have a boyfriend who I love dearly, but he's not the only one I love.  Ask the 9 other guys I've been with... in the last month.  *shiver*  Yeah yeah, slut total.  Proud of it.
-We get into some weird sex.  Pissing, spanking, tickling, rimming... all is par for the course in this strange world we call San Francisco.
-We proudly admit to being shallow and immature.  It's all about sex, and that means it's all about vanity.  If more people were honest about what they were looking for, we would have a lot less assholes on this Earth.

All of this shit is creepy to a lot of straight folks.  We fuck who we want, when we want, and we don't lie about it.

Don't you worry about STDs?
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #95 on: August 30, 2007, 10:18:58 PM »
nick, yer lifestyle would be just as creepy if it were heterosexual. the homosexuality is incidental. far less folks would freak out if you were whoring it up with a female.
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #96 on: August 30, 2007, 10:21:38 PM »

Of course this freaks people out. But people like drinky that we should not only tolerate but accept and somehow try to understand pissing and shallow sex.


i have a problem with the pissing and the shallow sex, yokel. i simply don't see why the homosexuality component should matter.

actually, i don't have a problem with the shallow sex -- but urine: ew!
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #97 on: August 30, 2007, 10:23:28 PM »
Drinky thinks that anything other than the missionary position is kinky. 

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« Reply #98 on: August 30, 2007, 10:26:29 PM »
wrong!
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #99 on: August 30, 2007, 10:37:15 PM »
wrong!

Liar.  You've been sticking it in the same place for a decade. 

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #100 on: August 31, 2007, 12:09:11 AM »
you live in san francisco?  I don't live too far from you and I think you live in the same city willco works.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #101 on: August 31, 2007, 01:38:40 AM »
i have a problem with the pissing and the shallow sex, yokel. i simply don't see why the homosexuality component should matter.

actually, i don't have a problem with the shallow sex -- but urine: ew!

As a discussion of The Gay progresses, it becomes more and more likely that someone will conflate homosexuality with:  Promiscuity, kinky sex, a lack of respect for boundaries, pedophilia, or rape.

FoC's just twisting himself into a pretzel in order to make himself the wronged group.

As if parades that are celebrations of a subculture that's been treated like complete shit for centuries is really about making FoC listen to Nick's sex life whether he wants to or not.  Why won't those damn homos stop making it so hard on us breeders!

He's use the ignore function, but then GLAAD's jack-booted enforcers would buttrape him or something.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #102 on: August 31, 2007, 02:51:33 AM »

Of course this freaks people out. But people like drinky that we should not only tolerate but accept and somehow try to understand pissing and shallow sex.


i have a problem with the pissing and the shallow sex, yokel. i simply don't see why the homosexuality component should matter.

actually, i don't have a problem with the shallow sex -- but urine: ew!

Personally, I don't get into the pissing.  My boyfriend is huge into that, and it took me months to finally come to terms with that sexual aspect of him.  For a while, I couldn't even look him in the eye, I was so ashamed of him.  But even thought it's gross and nasty and pigish, many people think just having sex with a man is gross and nasty and pigish.  I don't know where the lines are "drawn", but that's how I work around the fact that my boyfriend is into watersports.  Me, I'm very vanilla.  I like cuddling and kissing and touching and stuff.  Anything other than pretty regular sex kinda turns me off.  Still, my life revolves around a community that finds stuff like that okay, and I choose to feel the same way.

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #103 on: August 31, 2007, 02:56:48 AM »
I was told that being molested as a child will turn you gay.
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #104 on: August 31, 2007, 03:04:30 AM »
Nick bringing new meaning to 'male pissing contest'.

And as I think Mandark was saying, Nick's sexual adventures reinforces the idea of homosexuality as a sexual diversion or disorder, an unacceptable level of lust or a part of a sinful debauchery instead of an adult relationship.
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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #105 on: August 31, 2007, 03:55:51 AM »
I was told that being molested as a child will turn you gay.

Do you talk to PD's mom online too? 

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #106 on: August 31, 2007, 05:08:03 AM »
I can kinda understand why people would be freaked out by my lifestyle.  It's very post-modern/alternative in a lot of ways, and sometimes it even freaks me out a little.  Let's go over the facts.

-I have a boyfriend who I love dearly, but he's not the only one I love.  Ask the 9 other guys I've been with... in the last month.  *shiver*  Yeah yeah, slut total.  Proud of it.
-We get into some weird sex.  Pissing, spanking, tickling, rimming... all is par for the course in this strange world we call San Francisco.
-We proudly admit to being shallow and immature.  It's all about sex, and that means it's all about vanity.  If more people were honest about what they were looking for, we would have a lot less assholes on this Earth.

All of this shit is creepy to a lot of straight folks.  We fuck who we want, when we want, and we don't lie about it.

this post is hilarious if you read it in a stereotypical mincing voice

'it's all about sex, and that means it's all about vanity'

'we fuck who we want, when we want, and we don't lie about it'

oh nick why are you so sassy :-*


Eel O'Brian

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Re: why do homos freak you out?
« Reply #107 on: August 31, 2007, 08:07:02 AM »
When I was a kid I learned all the funniest, nastiest gay jokes from my homo cousin Mark.
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