Author Topic: To those who were raised religious, how did they teach about homos? (Read 6532 times)

Synbios459 · « **on:** August 29, 2007, 05:24:14 PM »

Like how did they describe why homo people are homo? The "why are people scared of homos" got me thinking about a funny thing that happened many years ago, this was when I was still going to church. The youth pastor explained that homosexuals were just tempted by satan to be attracted to other guys/girls and satan would make people feel attracted to members of the same sex whenever they'd look at them, and by having god wash away your sins you'd be strait.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:32:33 PM »

you'd be George Strait? sign me up!

Mupepe · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:32:56 PM »

they taught me that god loved them, but that it was a sin and they had fallen to temptation.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:34:30 PM »

It never once came up when I went to church. But we stopped going around 1998 or so because my mom didn't agree with the church's treatment of gays.

I guess the kids bible school didn't talk about

Mondain · « **Reply #4 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:35:30 PM »

didn't mention them

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #5 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:37:34 PM »

Drinky? Why the sudden interest in gay subjects? You thinking about hitting some rest stops tonight for a little gangbang action?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:39:56 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 29, 2007, 05:35:20 PM

We had a guy come to youth group and teach us about the sin of birth control, as he was one of these pharmacists who refuses to give it out. Later he was arrested for molesting his son. I quit going to church after that.

CHURCH YOUTH GROUP!! WOO!!

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:43:28 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 29, 2007, 05:37:34 PM

Drinky? Why the sudden interest in gay subjects? You thinking about hitting some rest stops tonight for a little gangbang action?

i didn't start this thread, hillbilly. also, as stated in the other thread, i was listening to callers on talk radio freak the fuck out over the gay senator from idaho's outing.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #8 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:45:40 PM »

What were the radio callers saying? I think its awesome that republicans are getting outed.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2007, 05:50:07 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 29, 2007, 05:45:18 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on August 29, 2007, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 29, 2007, 05:35:20 PM
We had a guy come to youth group and teach us about the sin of birth control, as he was one of these pharmacists who refuses to give it out. Later he was arrested for molesting his son. I quit going to church after that.

CHURCH YOUTH GROUP!! WOO!!
Church teaches you never to go to church.

I grew up Catholic, but my family stopped going when I was pretty young, meaning I developed a strong dislike of organized religion. However, my wife was raised Lutheran, and we go to this really awesome "liberal/green/pro-gay marriage" Lutheran church in Seattle. It's really made me rethink the idea of organized religion.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:00:37 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on August 29, 2007, 05:50:07 PM

I grew up Catholic, but my family stopped going when I was pretty young, meaning I developed a strong dislike of organized religion. However, my wife was raised Lutheran, and we go to this really awesome "liberal/green/pro-gay marriage" Lutheran church in Seattle. It's really made me rethink the idea of organized religion.

Yeah, I sometimes wonder how much of my distaste for orgreg is due to growing up in a 96% Republican district in yee-haw Texas. I sometimes want to join a Buddhist temple.

Mandark · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:03:38 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 29, 2007, 05:37:34 PM

Drinky? Why the sudden interest in gay subjects? You thinking about hitting some rest stops tonight for a little gangbang action?

Do we accuse you of hitting some mosques when you have your monthly freak-out over the prospect of dhimmitude?

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #12 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:04:41 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 29, 2007, 06:00:37 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on August 29, 2007, 05:50:07 PM
I grew up Catholic, but my family stopped going when I was pretty young, meaning I developed a strong dislike of organized religion. However, my wife was raised Lutheran, and we go to this really awesome "liberal/green/pro-gay marriage" Lutheran church in Seattle. It's really made me rethink the idea of organized religion.

Yeah, I sometimes wonder how much of my distaste for orgreg is due to growing up in a 96% Republican district in yee-haw Texas. I sometimes want to join a Buddhist temple.

I thought you grew up in the UK?

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 29, 2007, 05:52:22 PM

I was raised Catholic as well. Only my dad still goes but he won't join the Church until they reverse their stand on birth control. I lost my love for organized religion growing up in Utah, the only place where the church is the state.

Many of the Mormons I've met are nice to all people, including the ones that do things that Mormons disapprove of.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #13 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:06:55 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on August 29, 2007, 06:04:41 PM

Many of the Mormons I've met are nice to all people, including the ones that do things that Mormons disapprove of.

I grew up in a suburb of Seattle with a large Mormon population, they were all really nice, even if I disagree with some of their beliefs.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:08:57 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 29, 2007, 06:00:37 PM

Yeah, I sometimes wonder how much of my distaste for orgreg is due to growing up in a 96% Republican district in yee-haw Texas. I sometimes want to join a Buddhist temple.

Have you ever even been to Texas?

Quote

Do we accuse you of hitting some mosques when you have your monthly freak-out over the prospect of dhimmitude?

As a matter fact I eat shit for asking similar questions all the time here.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #15 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:11:42 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 29, 2007, 06:08:57 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 29, 2007, 06:00:37 PM

Yeah, I sometimes wonder how much of my distaste for orgreg is due to growing up in a 96% Republican district in yee-haw Texas. I sometimes want to join a Buddhist temple.

Have you ever even been to Texas?

Yes, I lived there through middle and high school. My family still lives in Dallas. I'm going back next month for my 10-year HS reunion.

Mandark · « **Reply #16 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:13:03 PM »

Drinky once said something about most Mormons approaching their religion like a souped-up, community-oriented Christianity, and that sounds right to me.

My personal experience with Mormons (none of whom were from Utah, AFAIK) was that they tended to be a lot more positive generally, as well as less insular or disdainful of outsiders.

Maybe it's that the people who converted were attracted to the idea of building a community, rather than seeing themselves as the righteous heirs of a tradition that's come under fire from all directions.

edit: Yes, FoC, you eat shit because you say incredibly ignorant things, but people don't accuse you of secretly being Muslim.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #17 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:17:51 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 29, 2007, 06:11:42 PM

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 29, 2007, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 29, 2007, 06:00:37 PM

Yeah, I sometimes wonder how much of my distaste for orgreg is due to growing up in a 96% Republican district in yee-haw Texas. I sometimes want to join a Buddhist temple.

Have you ever even been to Texas?

Yes, I lived there through middle and high school. My family still lives in Dallas. I'm going back next month for my 10-year HS reunion.

Then you would know that Texas is a very diverse state. Home to the most fortune 500 companies, home of NASA and alot of aerospace engineering firms. Austin is extremely liberal and is home to DELL as well as many tech and software companies. Houston's medical center is world famous.

Texas isn't just a bunch of conservative rednecks. Heck Bush isn't even from Texas.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #18 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:19:24 PM »

hellloooo texas chamber of commerce!

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #19 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:21:36 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 29, 2007, 06:17:51 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 29, 2007, 06:11:42 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 29, 2007, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 29, 2007, 06:00:37 PM

Yeah, I sometimes wonder how much of my distaste for orgreg is due to growing up in a 96% Republican district in yee-haw Texas. I sometimes want to join a Buddhist temple.

Have you ever even been to Texas?

Yes, I lived there through middle and high school. My family still lives in Dallas. I'm going back next month for my 10-year HS reunion.

Then you would know that Texas is a very diverse state. Home to the most fortune 500 companies, home of NASA and alot of aerospace engineering firms. Austin is extremely liberal and is home to DELL as well as many tech and software companies. Houston's medical center is world famous.

Texas isn't just a bunch of conservative rednecks. Heck Bush isn't even from Texas.

No fucking shit. My brother went to UT and lives with his wife in Austin now. They're both hippie-ass vegans. That doesn't change the fact that:

1) The town where I grew up voted 96% Republican, according to exit polls in 2000 and 2004
2) That town was in Texas

I never said anything bad about Texas overall (though I certainly could), so go fuck yourself

Mandark · « **Reply #20 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:32:59 PM »

Synthesizer Patel: "I spent my formative years in Texas surrounded by a stifling, conformist, fundamentalist Christian culture, and sometimes I think that this was a big factor in my later attitudes towards organized religion."

FoC: "That's obviously wrong, because there are some very profitable companies in other parts of the state!"

That is what just happened, isn't it?

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #21 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:40:17 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 29, 2007, 06:32:59 PM

That is what just happened, isn't it?

No. Patel described us as "yee-haw Texas" and i informed him that texas is not a bunch of hill billy rednecks.

Mandark · « **Reply #22 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:42:31 PM »

Who's "us?"

Patel was talking about the people in his community when he went to high school. I doubt you were in the same class as him, cause 1) you're much younger, and 2) Patel probably wasn't special needs.

TVC15 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:42:42 PM »

Hillbillies have no problem getting rich though, as evidenced by the Beverly Hillbillies. You've proven nothing, FoC.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #24 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:43:17 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 29, 2007, 06:42:42 PM

Hillbillies have no problem getting rich though, as evidenced by the Beverly Hillbillies. You've proven nothing, FoC.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #25 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:44:00 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 29, 2007, 06:40:17 PM

Quote from: Mandark on August 29, 2007, 06:32:59 PM

That is what just happened, isn't it?

No. Patel described us as "yee-haw Texas" and i informed him that texas is not a bunch of hill billy rednecks.

"yee-haw Texas" was an adjective describing the subsection of Texas where I lived (urban Texas, suburban Texas, yee-haw Texas), not an adjective describing the entire state. learn to grammar

aoi tsuki · « **Reply #26 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:45:06 PM »

i grew up Pentecostal Holiness in the south. Gays were described as having demons or something, and that if they gave their life to God, he'd removed the demons. Cue references to Sodom and Gomorrah, "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", etc. It's not something that was talked about much back then, so it wasn't like there were sermons about it like there are now.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #27 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:46:09 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 29, 2007, 06:44:00 PM

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 29, 2007, 06:40:17 PM
Quote from: Mandark on August 29, 2007, 06:32:59 PM

That is what just happened, isn't it?

No. Patel described us as "yee-haw Texas" and i informed him that texas is not a bunch of hill billy rednecks.

"yee-haw Texas" was an adjective describing the subsection of Texas where I lived (urban Texas, suburban Texas, yee-haw Texas), not an adjective describing the entire state. learn to grammar

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #28 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:55:49 PM »

I can't figure out if you're inredibly disingenuous or actually this stupid.

Wait, you're from Texas? I'm going with stupid.

Mandark · « **Reply #29 on:** August 29, 2007, 07:00:15 PM »

It's not like this is an uncommon or hard-to-understand usage.

Around here, we differentiate between "Northern Virginia" and "Bumfuck, Virginia."

brawndolicious · « **Reply #30 on:** August 29, 2007, 08:59:48 PM »

I don't think I heard them talk about it but the kids didn't care and the only adult I heard talk about it is my mom and she thinks they're nice.

Himu · « **Reply #31 on:** August 29, 2007, 09:14:42 PM »

don't break my heart

my achy breaky heart

brawndolicious · « **Reply #32 on:** August 29, 2007, 10:42:14 PM »

am I the only one that gets really fucking weirded out sometimes when himuro posts?

Ichirou · « **Reply #33 on:** August 29, 2007, 10:45:20 PM »

Himuro's dead, his roomie killed him and is posting using his account.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #34 on:** August 29, 2007, 10:46:58 PM »

the one he said was homeschooled? that explains where michelle's been.

etiolate · « **Reply #35 on:** August 30, 2007, 01:52:20 AM »

I don't think they talked too much about it. I think it was like a one time reading of the bits about sodomy and it being offensive to God.

bluemax · « **Reply #36 on:** August 30, 2007, 02:15:55 AM »

Quote from: Mupepe on August 29, 2007, 05:32:56 PM

they taught me that god loved them, but that it was a sin and they had fallen to temptation.

Ditto.

"Love the sinner not the sin." Is what I was always told.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #37 on:** August 30, 2007, 11:26:53 AM »

my church one Sunday brought in two guys fucking and told us, "don't do this"

Himu · « **Reply #38 on:** August 30, 2007, 11:54:23 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on August 29, 2007, 10:46:58 PM

the one he said was homeschooled? that explains where michelle's been.

i said i THINK he was homeschooled

Yeti · « **Reply #39 on:** August 30, 2007, 02:58:45 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 30, 2007, 11:26:53 AM

my church one Sunday brought in two guys fucking and told us, "don't do this"

Nick · « **Reply #40 on:** August 30, 2007, 03:15:57 PM »

These days it's not very PC to talk about homosexuality in ANY church around the US. It's just not a topic that is brought up any longer. I went to church for about 15 years, and I never once heard the topic of homosexuality brought up in the teachings. The way it is represented on the television is a gross representation of reality.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #41 on:** August 30, 2007, 03:50:32 PM »

Quote from: Nick on August 30, 2007, 03:15:57 PM

These days it's not very PC to talk about homosexuality in ANY church around the US. It's just not a topic that is brought up any longer. I went to church for about 15 years, and I never once heard the topic of homosexuality brought up in the teachings. The way it is represented on the television is a gross representation of reality.

It's not talked about much because there is like one passage in the bible about it. Where there is like a thousand talking about forgiveness and giving to the poor or love

Nick · « **Reply #42 on:** August 30, 2007, 04:48:11 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on August 30, 2007, 03:50:32 PM

Quote from: Nick on August 30, 2007, 03:15:57 PM
These days it's not very PC to talk about homosexuality in ANY church around the US. It's just not a topic that is brought up any longer. I went to church for about 15 years, and I never once heard the topic of homosexuality brought up in the teachings. The way it is represented on the television is a gross representation of reality.

It's not talked about much because there is like one passage in the bible about it. Where there is like a thousand talking about forgiveness and giving to the poor or love

Yeah, okay.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #43 on:** August 30, 2007, 04:55:38 PM »

What?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #44 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:08:36 PM »

Nick, remember that FlameOfCallandor lives in Texas, which in addition to beautiful parks, NASA, the progressive city of Austin and several Fortune 500 companies has absolutely no discrimination against homosexuals whatsoever. He is unable to detect your dismissive sarcasm because the utopia that is Texas has sheltered him for his entire life.

Mondain · « **Reply #45 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:18:55 PM »

it's saddening that the clout of christian churches is on the decline through all of North America, really, their presence and influence added a lot of good to a child's education

people need some sort of morals even if the system presented to them isn't perfect... nowadays every kid is growing up to be some selfish materialistic fuck... religion is needed more than ever into their lives

etiolate · « **Reply #46 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:31:53 PM »

Quote from: Mondain on August 30, 2007, 05:18:55 PM

it's saddening that the clout of christian churches is on the decline through all of North America, really, their presence and influence added a lot of good to a child's education

people need some sort of morals even if the system presented to them isn't perfect... nowadays every kid is growing up to be some selfish materialistic fuck... religion is needed more than ever into their lives

Materialism is a part of christian youth as well. American morals rate their evils, and tops is nudity/sex, and second is violence, and way farther down is greed/materialism.

Mupepe · « **Reply #47 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:36:29 PM »

texas rocks, fat boys

Mupepe · « **Reply #48 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:45:59 PM »

why do you hate houston so much?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #49 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:49:03 PM »

houston is satan's armpit

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #50 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:49:37 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 30, 2007, 05:39:28 PM

Texas is cool despite the weather and the FoCs. I could never live in Houston however.

It's true-Houston (and to a lesser degree, Dallas) are the only parts of Texas I've visited that I didn't like. I really love the Rio Grande Valley-the birdwatching there is totally

even if the area is really poor.

Houston though-it's like Atlanta, only more despicable.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #51 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:50:41 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 30, 2007, 05:08:36 PM

Nick, remember that FlameOfCallandor lives in Texas, which in addition to beautiful parks, NASA, the progressive city of Austin and several Fortune 500 companies has absolutely no discrimination against homosexuals whatsoever. He is unable to detect your dismissive sarcasm because the utopia that is Texas has sheltered him for his entire life.

You know I have lived other places my life, including another country and my family has hosted 7 year-long exchange student growing up (from all over the world). I'm probably less sheltered then most people on evilbore. So take your generalizations about me and shove it.

Also I got that he was trying to be sarcastic, it just didnt make any fucking sense.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #52 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:55:07 PM »

The only downside to FoC's utopia is that at age 30, citizens are mulched for nourishment for Texas Stadium.

Mupepe · « **Reply #53 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:55:24 PM »

wtf? how often do you visit? let's hook up

brawndolicious · « **Reply #54 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:56:02 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on August 30, 2007, 11:54:23 AM

i said i THINK he was homeschooled

that's what I meant homeschool.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #55 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:56:45 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 30, 2007, 05:52:15 PM

Quote from: Mupepe on August 30, 2007, 05:45:59 PM
why do you hate houston so much?
The fucking weather. I have family and friends that live there, and jesus christ the weather is shit.

Actually the weather in Houston aint so bad from September to April. Austin has had a very pleasant summer this year.

It's also better than blizzards and snow shoveling up north.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #56 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:57:42 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 30, 2007, 05:55:07 PM

The only downside to FoC's utopia is that at age 30, citizens are mulched for nourishment for Texas Stadium.

What the fuck are you even babbling about. My utopia??

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #57 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:59:46 PM »

THE STATE FAIR FERRIS WHEEL IS A LIE! HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL IS A LIE!!!

Mupepe · « **Reply #58 on:** August 30, 2007, 06:03:26 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on August 30, 2007, 05:55:49 PM

I'll be out in December if everything goes according to plan.

let's get shitfaced and play some forza 2 and/or halo 3 and/or cod4

xnikki118x · « **Reply #59 on:** August 31, 2007, 12:24:24 AM »

I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school from preschool - 8th grade, but I don't remember how the topic was ever brought up.

I do remember my mom sitting me down though, when I was like 11 or 12 and not really that interested in boys yet. She told me that if I "decided I liked girls" that it would be okay and she'd still love me.

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Author Topic: To those who were raised religious, how did they teach about homos? (Read 6532 times)