Ummmm.....Cloud, what do you think of this?

[Synbios459]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070901/ap_on_re_eu/switzerland_deportation_campaign;_ylt=AuMfkHOgpIWu0lkthg78DXSs0NUE

GENEVA - The campaign poster was blatant in its xenophobic symbolism: Three white sheep kicking out a black sheep over a caption that read "for more security." The message was not from a fringe force in Switzerland's political scene but from its largest party.

The nationalist Swiss People's Party is proposing a deportation policy that anti-racism campaigners say evokes Nazi-era practices. Under the plan, entire families would be expelled if their children are convicted of a violent crime, drug offenses or benefits fraud.

The party is trying to collect the 100,000 signatures needed to force a referendum on the issue. If approved in a referendum, the law would be the only one of its kind in Europe.

"We believe that parents are responsible for bringing up their children. If they can't do it properly, they will have to bear the consequences," Ueli Maurer, president of the People's Party, told The Associated Press.

Ronnie Bernheim of the Swiss Foundation against Racism and Anti-Semitism said the proposal was similar to the Nazi practice of "Sippenhaft" — or kin liability — whereby relatives of criminals were held responsible for his or her crimes and punished equally.

Similar practices occurred during Stalin's purges in the early days of the Soviet Union and the 1966-76 Cultural Revolution in China, when millions were persecuted for their alleged ideological failings.

"As soon as the first 10 families and their children have been expelled from the country, then things will get better at a stroke," said Maurer, whose party controls the Justice Ministry and shares power in an unwieldy coalition that includes all major parties.

He explained that his party has long campaigned to make deportation compulsory for convicted immigrants rather than an optional and rarely applied punishment.

The party claims foreigners — who make up about 20 percent of the population — are four times more likely to commit crimes than Swiss nationals.

Bernheim said the vast majority of Switzerland's immigrants are law-abiding and warned against generalizations.

"If you don't treat a complicated issue with the necessary nuance and care, then you won't do it justice," he said.

Commentators have expressed horror over the symbolism used by the People's Party to make its point.

"This way of thinking shows an obvious blood-and-soil mentality," read one editorial in the Zurich daily Tages-Anzeiger, calling for a broader public reaction against the campaign.

So far, however, there has been little popular backlash against the posters.

"We haven't had any complaints," said Maurer.

The city of Geneva — home to Switzerland's humanitarian traditions as well as the European headquarters of the United Nations and the U.N. Refugee Agency, or UNHCR — said the campaign was likely to stir up intolerance.

The UNHCR said the law would run contrary to the U.N. refugee convention, of which Switzerland is a signatory.

But observers say the People's Party's hardline stance on immigration could help it in the Oct. 21 national elections. In 2004, the party successfully campaigned for tighter immigration laws using the image of black hands reaching into a pot filled with Swiss passports.

"It's certainly no coincidence that the People's Party launched this initiative before the elections," said Oliver Geden, a political scientist at the Berlin Institute for International and Security Affairs.

He said provocative campaigns such as this had worked well for the party in the past.

"The symbol of the black sheep was clearly intended to have a double meaning. On the one hand there's the familiar idea of the black sheep, but a lot of voters are also going to associate it with the notion of dark-skinned drug dealers," said Geden.

The party also has put forward a proposal to ban the building of minaret towers alongside mosques. And one of its leading figures, Justice Minister Christoph Blocher, said he wants to soften anti-racism laws because they prevent freedom of speech.

[cloudwalking]

they only want the bad foreigners out, duh.

i'm from canada. everyone in europe loves canada. they didn't even stamp my passport when i came into the country. they want me to stay, illegally even!

what does a black sheep have to do with canada anyway. black people don't come from canada, silly.

[Tauntaun]

can we do this with the illegals here in the US? 

Cause I believe, such as and...that US Americans are in trouble with immigrations such as, the Mexico that we need a more open, er secured border such as in the Iraq.  Maps would help. 

[FlameOfCallandor]

No you cannot do that with immigrants. Are you a fucking racist bigot asshole? jeez, why dont you think before you propose such an idea.

[Tauntaun]

No you cannot do that with immigrants. Are you a fucking racist bigot asshole? jeez, why dont you think before you propose such an idea.

The problems with US Americans today are the ignorant views like FOC such as and everything and I propose a mass execution like in WWII but for people I don't like such as everywhere.

[FlameOfCallandor]

We arent allowed to have a national border? Because distinguished mentally-challenged politically correct ultra liberal distinguished mentally-challenged fellows think that it is racist to secure the border.

[bagofeyes]

lol FoC is being a racist again and thinking he isn't racist

[Tauntaun]

We arent allowed to have a national border? Because distinguished mentally-challenged politically correct ultra liberal distinguished mentally-challenged fellows think that it is racist to secure the border.

  You do realize that GWB is pushing for the NAU right?  And that his father was a big supporter of the New World Order RIGHT?!?!? RIIIIIIGHT?!?!?!?

Only this man stands apart from them:



edit: such as

[FlameOfCallandor]

What's racist about stopping illegal immigration? Mexico has far stricter laws on immigration than the US.

Oh and Ron Paul is the Best! I fucking LOVE that guy. I just found out that he is from my District in Texas.





 

[Mupepe]

such as and the rape button such as everywhere.

maps.

[Smooth Groove]

It doesn't matter what laws Mexico has because it doesn't enforce any of them.  Less than 10% of crimes are punished in that country. 

[FlameOfCallandor]

Because their government is corrupt.

[DJ_Tet]

It doesn't matter what laws Mexico has because it doesn't enforce any of them.  Less than 10% of crimes are punished in that country. 

Tell that to the central americans that are found crossing the southern borders into Mexico.