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Does Persona 3 really suck or are you guys trolling Himumu? :(
« on: September 23, 2007, 10:53:07 AM »
The import store I buy US games from just got a copy in, but then I everytime there's a thread on RPGs, everybody mentions how much Persona 3 sucks...should I buy it or is this just a meme designed to piss off Himuro?
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Re: Does Persona 3 really suck or are you guys trolling Himumu? :(
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2007, 11:11:15 AM »
I rented the game Friday and even though I'm not very far into I'm liking it so far.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2007, 11:53:53 AM »
I've come to trust Evilbore's collective judgment on a game, and everyone here seems to enjoy making fun of Persona 3...but I don't know if they're totally joking or half-serious or what. :lol

I wanna buy it because it's Atlus and I know it'll become rare if I don't, but...I don't want to buy something that sucks!
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Re: Does Persona 3 really suck or are you guys trolling Himumu? :(
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2007, 12:43:27 PM »
Id ask TVC about it, I think of everyone his opinion seemed the most balanced. Drinky played a fair bit too. Ignore anyone that was in that official thread a lot tho, that was a circle jerk.

As a game, I dont think it 'sucks'. On a technical level its better than most, but I hate the angle and approach of the story in the first few hours, in general it just didnt have what was needed to 'hook' me like say...VP2 did.
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Re: Does Persona 3 really suck or are you guys trolling Himumu? :(
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 12:45:02 PM »
It was to embarassing to even play.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2007, 12:48:52 PM »
I didn't hate it, but I really disliked the social planning stuff. As a dungeon crawler, it's pretty mediocre, and persona creation has been dumbed down even further. It's honestly a good game, but I think it's a pretty big step back in complexity, although the challenge is still there. I'd give it a 7/10 at this point. It's no Blue Dragon!
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2007, 12:51:12 PM »
7/10 is worthy of a purchase, IMO.  What about Devil Summoner?  That one any good?
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2007, 12:51:52 PM »
Devil Summoner is a really REALLY shallow Megaten game -- it's like a lightweight action gaiden, but with a good story. I would also give it a 7/10.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2007, 01:05:34 PM »
Ichiro: If you tend to like Shin Megami games id get both devil and persona 3. I own PLENTY of 7/10 games and a few even worse cause of my various tastes.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2007, 01:08:21 PM »
same. my collection is mostly games that would garner a 6 or 7 out of 10 by reasonably objective standards. i am very willing to excuse even gross flaws if the game has a hook i like.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2007, 01:10:05 PM »
I actually have very few games from the more popular series. ie GTA, MGS, FF, stuff like that.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2007, 01:11:11 PM »
Persona 3 is a 3D Thousand Arms

Really creepy with cruddy gameplay
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2007, 01:12:53 PM »
I only have Vice City of the GTA series because I like the setting (same reason why I didn't pick up San Andreas as I have no desire to play a street thug...not nearly as cool as playing a mafioso voiced by Henry Hill from Goodfellas).

But, yeah, 7/10 sounds good...I have played through many 7/10 games and totally enjoyed them (MS Saga for example).  Thanks, fellas.  I know what I'm buying tomorrow. :D

demi, Thousand Arms was a complete POS, but you haven't even played Persona 3, you said...?
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2007, 01:22:18 PM »
Thousand Arms was at least entertaining. I loved pissing all of those girls off.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2007, 01:26:29 PM »
just get the fucking game ichirou.

7/10 is worthy of a purchase, IMO.  What about Devil Summoner?  That one any good?

Weakest SMT I've played but worth it if you're a fan. If you're not a fan, I dunno if I suggest getting it.


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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2007, 01:27:23 PM »
just get the fucking game ichirou.

Don't get pissy with me, sweetcheeks, I already said I'm buying it tomorrow.  :-*
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2007, 01:28:43 PM »
don't bother with devil summoner.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2007, 01:46:32 PM »
Himuro is a nutball fanboy, ignore him.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2007, 01:49:47 PM »
Devil Summoner looks better than Persona 3 to me...but anyway, I'm getting both!
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2007, 01:51:01 PM »
Feel free to report back on what a bad decision you made.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2007, 01:52:32 PM »
It isn't. It's an average action rpg with toned down fusion system, and toned down everything that makes SMT own. The only good thing about it is the music, adventure game elements tied together with traditonal rpg format, and (some of) the story. As far as Megaten games go, Devil Summoner 3 is light weight.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2007, 01:53:12 PM »
Himuro is a nutball fanboy, ignore him.

I have no problem admitting i am a nutball SMT fanboy and I take this title proudly.
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2007, 01:55:16 PM »
Feel free to report back on what a bad decision you made.

I'm the dude who invited Synbios to Evilbore.  I'm the king of bad decisions and I'm totally willing to admit it.

Himuro is a nutball fanboy, ignore him.

I have no problem admitting i am a nutball SMT fanboy and I take this title proudly.

Himu, how would you rank the Megami Tensei games on PS2, from best to worst?
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2007, 02:03:55 PM »
Feel free to report back on what a bad decision you made.

I'm the dude who invited Synbios to Evilbore.  I'm the king of bad decisions and I'm totally willing to admit it.

You seemed really defensive about your Comic Sans fetish, though.  :'(
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2007, 02:09:58 PM »
Because people were telling me to kill myself over it.  I didn't know that was acceptable internet etiquette at the time.  Now I do, and I use it constantly with people who annoy me.  :pimp
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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2007, 02:11:44 PM »

Himu, how would you rank the Megami Tensei games on PS2, from best to worst?

1. Persona 3
2. Nocturne
3. DDS1+2
4. Devil Summoner 3: Raidou blah blah junkajunka
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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2007, 02:16:17 PM »
I never played Nocturne, what makes it so awesome?
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« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2007, 03:42:44 PM »
persona 3 is pretty nice, but it has 2 major flaws:

1) because the levels on the tartarus are generated randomly, they're repetitive and there really isn't a sense of exploration. the layout of the bosses is also repetitive. (2 every 30 floors or so before every full moon, first battle has 3 strong enemies, second has 1 ubber enemy)

2) the everyday thing gets repetitive after a while. i'm currently in november (game starts on april), and it's just always been school -> slink -> tartarus/sleep+study

there's some minor stuff i'd complain about, but if you can get past those 2 issues you'll like it. the characters and the story are interesting, battles are easier than the other smts but still harder than your average jrpg, and the soundtrack is alright.

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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2007, 03:49:47 PM »
hey guys what about nocturne, any good?

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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2007, 03:50:52 PM »
The only good Megaten game is Digital Devil Saga, really.
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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2007, 03:53:54 PM »
I really liked those 2, it had some cheesy cutscenes though. I loved the battle system, easy as it was to break later on.

I always hear zomg nocturne, but I dont think ive ever seen a copy of the game.
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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2007, 04:48:36 PM »
persona 3 is pretty nice, but it has 2 major flaws:

1) because the levels on the tartarus are generated randomly, they're repetitive and there really isn't a sense of exploration. the layout of the bosses is also repetitive. (2 every 30 floors or so before every full moon, first battle has 3 strong enemies, second has 1 ubber enemy)

2) the everyday thing gets repetitive after a while. i'm currently in november (game starts on april), and it's just always been school -> slink -> tartarus/sleep+study

there's some minor stuff i'd complain about, but if you can get past those 2 issues you'll like it. the characters and the story are interesting, battles are easier than the other smts but still harder than your average jrpg, and the soundtrack is alright.

these flaws can be almost non existent because if you tire of one play style, you can switch to other like that. This makes Persona 3 more flexible than most jrpgs and keeps constantly engaging.
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2007, 04:50:58 PM »
I never played Nocturne, what makes it so awesome?

1. plot that doesn't hold your hand
2. kaneko character designs
3. no saving the world in this game, the world is already destroyed.
4. you're a demon and kick ass
5. addicting character recruitment which is smt staple
6. awesome story
7. awesome music
8. random battles, but random battle done right aka almost every battle could be your last, so you always stay on your toes
9. difficult

Nocturne is the thinking man's japanese rpg. lol thinking man's
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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2007, 05:33:03 PM »
Most of the characters in the game aren't even students.
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2007, 06:00:43 PM »
demi, Thousand Arms was a complete POS, but you haven't even played Persona 3, you said...?

Exactly. Read what I posted
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2007, 06:12:15 PM »
1. plot that doesn't hold your hand
2. kaneko character designs
3. no saving the world in this game, the world is already destroyed.
4. you're a demon and kick ass
5. addicting character recruitment which is smt staple
6. awesome story
7. awesome music
8. random battles, but random battle done right aka almost every battle could be your last, so you always stay on your toes
9. difficult

Nocturne is the thinking man's japanese rpg. lol thinking man's

1. nocturne's plot sucks. you're a demon, there are other demons and you fight them to be king of demons or something.
5. the character recruitment is annoying imo. you have to give them items and answer stupid questions, and sometimes they don't even join you.
6. no, there is no story. and there's like 4 characters too.
7. dds has better music
8. no, especially in the amala labirint or whatever it was called. the thing is huge, full of branching paths and then there are random battles quite often. at times i even forgot where i was headed and had hell to pay.

also, you can choose which skills you character learns, but since you don't know what demons you'll be using in the future, it's quite a pain. you don't know which branches exist either. there is no "heat is my phys/buff tank, argilla uses magic and serph does both". it's basically "oh i got this dumb demon here, i'm gonna grind him for 5 levels and then he'll have the one skill to kill the boss".

and then if you didn't get the stupid demon by talking to him 5738 times to get him to join, you have to fuse him from other demons you already have. if the story and characters were interesting i might have kept playing, but even that sucked.

anyway, persona 3 is nocturne done right. you don't have to grind your personas because of the slinks, you have permanent allies so you don't have to try to guess which attacks you'll have in the next battle, and you're not limited to 8 skills.

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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2007, 06:22:58 PM »
Get Blue Dragon instead.

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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2007, 09:51:45 PM »
about 30 to 40 hours into p3 i took a break from it.  like anus said, it gets repetitive especially if you play nonstop.  the lack of control over your party became an issue for me.  the tactics options were good, but managing party members would have made the combat less boring.  great game, just not as fun as DDS or nocturne in my opinion.
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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2007, 09:39:14 AM »
1. plot that doesn't hold your hand
2. kaneko character designs
3. no saving the world in this game, the world is already destroyed.
4. you're a demon and kick ass
5. addicting character recruitment which is smt staple
6. awesome story
7. awesome music
8. random battles, but random battle done right aka almost every battle could be your last, so you always stay on your toes
9. difficult

Nocturne is the thinking man's japanese rpg. lol thinking man's

1. nocturne's plot sucks. you're a demon, there are other demons and you fight them to be king of demons or something.
5. the character recruitment is annoying imo. you have to give them items and answer stupid questions, and sometimes they don't even join you.
6. no, there is no story. and there's like 4 characters too.
7. dds has better music
8. no, especially in the amala labirint or whatever it was called. the thing is huge, full of branching paths and then there are random battles quite often. at times i even forgot where i was headed and had hell to pay.


The game has a story. Your'e just used to being spoon fed by every jrpg ever.
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« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2007, 10:58:30 AM »
The Persona 3 copy they had yesterday was sold out today!!!!

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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2007, 11:00:42 AM »
I rented it and thought it sucked.
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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2007, 11:23:00 AM »
Oh, Ichirou.
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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2007, 12:17:38 PM »
Oh, Ichirou.

I already e-mailed a friend of mine back home to buy it for me and send it to me here.
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« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2007, 06:19:00 PM »
My GF plays the shit out of P3 all the fucking time.  What I've seen of her playing it makes me interested. You're an emo douche wearing a nazi armband who summons demons by shooting himself in the head. And you get a fucking dog in your party. And you can mack on schoolgirl bitches. Obviously I love me some wacky jappy shit.
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« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2007, 09:22:30 PM »
Waiting to hear back from my buddy as to whether he's getting me Persona 3 or not.
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« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2007, 09:52:11 PM »
I don't know anything about this game except something about angels and demons, but I just want to say Himuro is awesome and I wish we talked like we used to back in the day

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« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2007, 12:34:01 AM »
Himu is indeed awesome. :bow
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« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2007, 12:56:11 AM »
Ichirou, I have a spare copy of it for some reason. Let me know if you want it.

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« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2007, 01:04:09 AM »
Why would you have a spare copy?  :o
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« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2007, 01:05:35 AM »
Why would you have a spare copy?  :o

I'll ask the questions here!!  (Do you want it)

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« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2007, 01:09:33 AM »
I dunno who you are, though. ???
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« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2007, 01:11:17 AM »
7 out of 10 sounds fair to me, Ichirou.  I'd give Devil Summoner the same, though I personally like it more.  Fuck Himuro saying to skip it.  It's definitely a low budget SMT game, and it shows with the prerendered backgrounds and what not, but it's still got a mostly fun, fast, and simple battle system.  The game is brief enough that it never had the time to wear on me.

My problems with Persona that keep it from being great:

1) The S.Link system isn't well designed.  You never know what sort of persona you are going to need before you actually need them, so you have no idea what S.Link's are best to pursue, aside from going for the ones you think are most amusing or most entertaining.  That's not a very intelligent way to plan out your monster strategy,

2) The social aspect of the game is completely under developed.  There's only one correct path through each social event cut scene, if you want to get your point bonus credit.  This is stupid, it allows you to waste time, and due to the nature of the S.Link System, it doesn't even make sense.  If I choose the incorrect dialogue choice, I should not get no credit at all, but possibly get credit in an opposing S.Link.  What's the point of being a clownass in this game if you are going to be penalized?  If I want to play the game as a badass asshole, the game should let me.  

3)  The dungeon exploring isn't as much of a focus as it should be, and it is shallow.  The game has a shitty fatigue system that prevents you from dungeon crawling as much as you want.  This would be a problem, except that the dungeons are so simplistic and samey that you might not even feel like crawling much.  I thought this was going to be like mysterious dungeon style crawling, and while it's cleary derived from that, it doesn't stand within 50 feet of the variety those games offer.  Traps, treasures, even monster variety--you will find little to none of that here.  The combat system is nice, an easier take on the system from previous PS2 SMT games.  I still groan about not having complete control over all characters (you just have the main, and AI handles the rest), but the AI is truthfully pretty good.

The game is also significantly easier than any of the other PS2 SMT games.  Devil Summoner aside, which is also on the easier side of the spectrum.

4) It is slow paced.  Since you only go to the dungeon once or twice a week, and since you spend like a full half (or more) of your time playing the game reading NPC interactions and watching cut scenes, the game has the tendency to feel like you are watching it more than you are playing it.  Yes, even worse than FF at its worst.  Luckily, the localization is as good as it's gotten for SMT (it's a really good loc job, aside from a few imperfect voices.  Sorry, had to mentiont hat, Heavenly Sword has ruined me with its perfect voicing!), so if that's your kind of thing, you're going to like this.  For me, it got kind of grating.  Other elements of the game do not help this feeling.  This has bar none the worst soundtrack of any SMT game I can recall (that has made it to the US), and worse than being disappointing, it is downright annoying.  Repeated, brief vocal samples are reminiscent of house music at its worst, mixed with terrible, horn-y J-Pop sensibilities.  The music associated with the tower is good, but again, you don't spend much time there.

In conclusion, the game's got problems. Ignore fucking Himuro, Devil Summoner is just as good.  It's more of a "slight" game, with not as much focus in things like dialogue or crazy production values, but it doesn't have nearly as many problems as Persona 3.  Persona 3 is very close to being a Bad Game, and for my money, it's the worst SMT game to hit US shores, on basis of its many flaws, puzzling design, and oh so much wasted potential.  I am trying to be kind of objective, though.
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« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2007, 01:20:19 AM »
Why would you have a spare copy?  :o

I'll ask the questions here!!  (Do you want it)

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« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2007, 01:27:51 AM »
I already bought Devil Summoner, TVC.  Glad to hear it.  And I'm actually glad to hear it's a bit shorter than the typical Megami Tensei game, since I don't have as much time for console gaming as I used to (portables taking up most of my time and all).
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« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2007, 11:54:12 AM »
Devil Summoner is not just as good in the least. Devil Summoner is the weakest Megami Tensei to be released stateside on consoles, and is nothing like Persona 3 in terms of quality. Devil Summoner is experimental, but it's not pulled off well. Mind numbingly simplistic combat, toned down fusion system, random battles in TOWN, easy difficulty, and depending on whether you like them or not the game's design relies on FETCH QUESTS (I like them).

Persona 3 has far less problems than Raidou, and TVC is smoking serious weed.

I agree that the dungeon crawling is simplistic, the enemy variety not as good as previous SMT's, but to say the game has more flaws than DS is crazy.

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It is slow paced.  Since you only go to the dungeon once or twice a week, and since you spend like a full half (or more) of your time playing the game reading NPC interactions and watching cut scenes, the game has the tendency to feel like you are watching it more than you are playing it.

This goes to show how much you've played it man. come on. Aside from after certain events and during mid terms week (when you usually can explore by yourself, which is about 10 x more awesome), you can go to Tartarus any fucking night of the week. It's not slow paced, it keeps the same pace the entire damn game so that playing it for 80-100 hours doesn't get boring.

You say that your characters get fatigued and this hampers dungeon crawling when your characters stop getting so fatigued like at level 5. I'm 85 hours into the game and my characters haven't been fatigued for maybe, 77 hours of play time. I forgot you can get fatigued until you even mentioned that.

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The S.Link system isn't well designed.  You never know what sort of persona you are going to need before you actually need them, so you have no idea what S.Link's are best to pursue, aside from going for the ones you think are most amusing or most entertaining.

There's an option under every single S. Link that says something like View S. Link stats and it tells you what demons you can make or going to get soon within that Arcana. This allows you to plan ahead and prepare for what demons you are going to be making. If you've played an SMT before you know what abilities you should go for in your demons, and it tells you what skills your demons will likely have if you level up that Arcana.

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The social aspect of the game is completely under developed.  There's only one correct path through each social event cut scene, if you want to get your point bonus credit.  This is stupid, it allows you to waste time, and due to the nature of the S.Link System, it doesn't even make sense.  If I choose the incorrect dialogue choice, I should not get no credit at all, but possibly get credit in an opposing S.Link.  What's the point of being a clownass in this game if you are going to be penalized?  If I want to play the game as a badass asshole, the game should let me.

Point taken, and I whole heartedly agree.

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The game is also significantly easier than any of the other PS2 SMT games.  Devil Summoner aside, which is also on the easier side of the spectrum.

No it isn't. Once you hit the 2nd block the difficulty sky rockets. It's way harder than DDS. DDS is more about exploiting enemy weaknesses and that's it. It's mostly cake. In Persona 3, many bosses don't even HAVE weaknesses, so you have to plan accordingly and buff/debuff, and basically know your shit. It's difficulty is on par with Nocturne, not because it is balls off the wall hard like Nocturne, but because the battle system is far more balanced and not about exchanging turns. It's just like Nocturne in that you will be fucked if you have the wrong demon out at the wrong time, and this seems to happen far more than it does in Nocturne since in Nocturne you can sense enemy patterns due to environment or what enemies you face. Persona 3 doesn't have a pattern so it's hard to detect who you will be facing and when. Also, it's far more harder than DDS1+2 because in those games, you don't get a game over when the main character dies.
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