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The Fake Shemp

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Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« on: September 25, 2007, 06:33:16 AM »
I'm addicted to Civ.  I blame Frag - totally.  Since then, I've been eyeing other PC gamer releases that I previously thought were too hoighty-toighty for me.  Like maybe even AGE OF EMPIRES (I have never played an Age of Empires game) or COMPANY OF HEROES or WORLD IN CONFLICT or even Alpha Centauri!  I was thinking of maybe even asking for the Civ 4 expansion and I never, ever buy expansions.  The last PC expansion I bought was BROOD WAR.  No joke.
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Re: Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2007, 06:48:06 AM »
Alpha Centauri is really, really awesome actually.  I liked the space colonization aspects of it.

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Re: Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2007, 04:24:29 PM »
Civilization 4 : Beyond the Sword adds quite a lot of features to the core Civilization game, but I think it's a bit more for the advanced player since it means that there is even more shit to sort out in the endgame (though I think the end result is a better designed game).  Don't bother with the Warlords expansion, since everything  that is in Warlords save for the scenarios is in Beyond the Sword.

Alpha Centauri is probably the second best Civ game now that Civ4 has all grown up and is awesome. Most people would skewer me for saying that, but I'm not the kind of person to say that an older game is better than a newer, more solidly designed game just because it was awesome when it came out. SMAC has some weaknesses-the AI is weak, the game's resource model is primitive compared to Civ4, and much of the awkward Civ2/Civ3 stuff that Civ4 retooled is all over SMAC. It's still a VERY good game, don't get me wrong, and if you have a scifi itch to scratch you won't find a better terrestrial empire builder with that setting than SMAC. I just don't think it is as good of a "Civ" game (which is what it is, with a ton of other things added) as Civ4 is now, which is understandable since SMAC is almost a decade old.

Company of Heroes is to WW2 games what Jason Bourne is to spy movies. It's sexy, gritty, action packed , and, most importantly, brilliantly designed and executed. It's one of the games that I pretty much recommend to people without hesitation. It runs well on modest (6600GT/P4) systems.

World In Conflict has much steeper requirements but I really dig the FPS-style drop in multiplayer as a great weeknight time waster. Play the demo and see if you like it-for a lot of people, not being able to build bases is a real turnoff.

Age of Empires 3 is a old-school style econ RTS with a great coat of a paint/polish and an undeniably slick RPG-like "home city" system by which you can customize your style of play to the nation(s) you are playing with and the map you are on. I love this feature and hope to see more RTS games have a sort of planning "outside of the game" metagame going on as it boosts tactical options greatly and encourages diverse build order designs.

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Re: Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007, 09:58:52 PM »
You already made one of these threads, Willco. And you've never played an AOE game before?!? I thought I was bad in never having played Civ.
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Re: Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2007, 06:43:59 PM »
You like Civilization...you want to play Age of Empires...sounds like you're ready for Rise of Nations.  RoN is like the some of the best parts of Civ mixed with the RTS of the AoE series.  Great, great game.

I never cared for Alpha Centauri personally.  The whole planetary space fungus BS was just annoying, the research topics never really seemed to make much sense, and the unit builder was better in theory than actual practice - I never did create my own units.  I did like the AI though.  Something quite nice about telling Sister-what's-her-name to shut her freakin' yap.

Anyway, Rise of Nations.  RISE OF FUCKING NATIONS.  Get it.
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Re: Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2007, 09:05:21 PM »
AOE is very easy to jump into.  Especially since you've already played Civilization, which is far more complicated. 

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Re: Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2007, 09:52:50 PM »
AOE is very easy to jump into.  Especially since you've already played Civilization, which is far more complicated. 
AOE is basically a medieval starcraft.  no super-hard difficulty curve or long tech trees.  I only played AOE2 though, don't know what they changed.

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Re: Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2007, 10:56:11 PM »
Rise of Legends > Rise of Nations

On sale for 5.90 + 2.50 shipping at gogamer.com for the next couple of days or so.
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Re: Civilization - where have you been all my life?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2007, 11:13:09 PM »
Rise of Legends is brilliant, I so want an expansion.

Also yeah, Company of Heroes is brilliant shit.
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